THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Candyflip on October 26, 2007, 11:14:57 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tees/7063366.stm
A man who urinated on a woman as she lay dying and shouted "this is YouTube material" has been sentenced to three years in prison.
Anthony Anderson also covered Christine Lakinski with shaving foam after she collapsed in a Hartlepool street.
The 50-year-old, who suffered from a number of medical conditions, was later pronounced dead at the scene.
Anderson, 27, and from Raby Road in the Teesside town, had earlier admitted outraging public decency.
The court heard how, on 27 July, Miss Lakinski was making her way home with a box of laminate flooring when she fell ill and stumbled into a doorway.
Anderson, a former soldier, had smoked a cannabis joint and been drinking when he and two friends spotted her.
He tried to rouse her by throwing a bucket of water over her, before urinating on her and covering her with shaving foam.
A crowd had gathered around, watching and laughing, and the incident was filmed on a mobile phone.
She was later declared dead at the scene, the cause of death being given as pancreatic failure.
Magistrates in Hartlepool had referred the case to Teesside Crown Court so a longer jail term could be handed out.
Judge Peter Fox, the recorder of Middlesbrough sitting at Teesside Crown Court, said: "You violated this woman in an incredible way, and the shocking nature of your acts over a prolonged period of time must mean that a prison sentence of greater length is appropriate in this case."
Outside court, Miss Lakinski's family said in a statement: "We remain totally shocked that anyone could behave in such an appalling way.
"The fact that Christine was dying makes this man's actions even more sick and inhumane.
"However, those who stood by and did nothing to stop Anderson are also guilty in our eyes.
"It beggars belief that these people chose not only to condone his cruelty, but also to walk away from a neighbour who was clearly in distress and needed help."
The family statement added that Christine had "faced immense challenges throughout her life", yet still had managed to "forge an independent life for herself".
What a piece of fucking shit.
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*unzips* HAY GUYZ THIS IS YOUTUBE MATERIAL
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Really Harsh sentence.
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Really Harsh sentence.
I would personally castrate this asshole, and I'm generally a pretty tolerant person. So no.
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(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/mrangryface_bucket/Memes%20n%20Things/shavingfoam.jpg)
Also, throw him in jail. I dont wanna run the risk of him peeing on me someday.
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Yea he did some terrible shit. But 3 years in prison?
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He should probably get more.
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That's hot.
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He should probably get more.
For peeing?
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round it up to 10, easier paperwork probably.
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He should probably get more.
For peeing?
Yes.
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FlameofCallandor supports urinating and humiliating people who are dying.
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Should he have gotten 6 years for pooing?
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Should he have gotten 6 years for pooing?
Yeah.
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Dude, she was dying! I highly doubt that her pain was not evident. And instead of helping a person in agony in their last moments alive, he peed all over her and then humiliated her in public. Are you dumb?
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Yea he did some terrible shit. But 3 years in prison?
The irony is, he's from Texas. This fucker would be on death row in your state, since they basically love that fucking death penalty.
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Yea he did some terrible shit. But 3 years in prison?
The irony is, he's from Texas. This fucker would be on death row in your state, since they basically love that fucking death penalty.
:lol I was actually just thinking that about 30 seconds ago. I keep hearing Ron White's bit on the death penalty from his stand up echoing through my head every time I reread one of FoC's posts in this thread.
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Jesus Christ this is filthy
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Dude, she was dying! I highly doubt that her pain was not evident. And instead of helping a person in agony in their last moments alive, he peed all over her and then humiliated her in public. Are you dumb?
Dude... are you SERIOUS? This is FoC we're talking about here. His stupidity has been confirmed for a long time now.
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Isn't this story pretty old?
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wow.
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Ok I laughed while reading the title. Funny, but deserves 7 years for this.
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wow, the ron paul libertardian shiz has really gone to foc's pointy little head
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wow, the ron paul libertardian shiz has really gone to foc's pointy little head
Yeah, I wonder what his reaction would be if this had been his mother or something.
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"mom, i understand that you are dead and soaked with the rank piss of a drunkard, and that the memory of your life's deeds has been reduced to a grainy 320x240 video of urine splashing on your convulsing features followed by a cavalcade of "lol!!!!" comments, but understand that the federal government's tyranny should not extend to arbitrarily punishing a man for a so-called crime not wholly codified and circumscribed by the constitution"
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if somebody did that to foc's mom, he'd probably rate the video on youtube and share it with others :-\
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What's worse, peeing on a dying woman's face or paying taxes? I JUST DON'T KNOW
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i can't believe no one decked him
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i can't believe no one decked him
That's the government's responsibility!
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"mom, i understand that you are dead and soaked with the rank piss of a drunkard, and that the memory of your life's deeds has been reduced to a grainy 320x240 video of urine splashing on your convulsing features followed by a cavalcade of "lol!!!!" comments, but understand that the federal government's tyranny should not extend to arbitrarily punishing a man for a so-called crime not wholly codified and circumscribed by the constitution"
this is too advance for foc
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"mom, i understand that you are dead and soaked with the rank piss of a drunkard, and that the memory of your life's deeds has been reduced to a grainy 320x240 video of urine splashing on your convulsing features followed by a cavalcade of "lol!!!!" comments, but understand that the federal government's tyranny should not extend to arbitrarily punishing a man for a so-called crime not wholly codified and circumscribed by the constitution"
this is too advance for foc
To be fair, independent thought and proper grammar are too advanced for FoC.
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So he is going to a prison for 3 years for peeing on someone. Not to mention there wasnt even a victim. Would he get 3 years if she was alive? What about if she was already dead? Sounds like harsh punishment.
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Dude. Are you dense? Let's break it down.
1. Lady collapses in street. Obvious sign she needs help.
2. Instead of calling paramedics or at least attempting to help, youtube-cigarillo pulls out his wang, pisses all over her, covers her with shaving cream, etc.
3. Lady dies.
I'm no doctor, but I'm assuming there was probably a chance of survival had any of those feggits done anything to help instead of watching their buddy urinate on her. Even if, it's the fact that this piece of shit didn't even have the compassion to do anything to help her situation and then went even further by doing probably the most disgusting thing possible to someone who is laying on the ground dying, short of rape.
Excuse me for thinking that assfuck deserves to have years of his life spent in a cell. Sorry. The less people we have like this walking the streets, the better off we are.
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sounds like we're ridding the streets a disgusting human being, no matter which way you spin it. If I knew him in real life, he'd be in a full body cast. That's fucking despicable no matter which way you spin it. What happened to common decency? Is this the kind of shit we want to promote? If I had a choice, he would get the death penalty. Extradite him to Texas on some bogus charge and let me be on the jury. Kthxbai
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Dude. Are you dense? Let's break it down.
1. Lady collapses in street. Obvious sign she needs help.
2. Instead of calling paramedics or at least attempting to help, youtube-cigarillo pulls out his wang, pisses all over her, covers her with shaving cream, etc.
3. Lady dies.
I'm no doctor, but I'm assuming there was probably a chance of survival had any of those feggits done anything to help instead of watching their buddy urinate on her. Even if, it's the fact that this piece of shit didn't even have the compassion to do anything to help her situation and then went even further by doing probably the most disgusting thing possible to someone who is laying on the ground dying, short of rape.
Excuse me for thinking that assfuck deserves to have years of his life spent in a cell. Sorry. The less people we have like this walking the streets, the better off we are.
What can he be charged with outside of indecent exposure? Neglect? I dunno if that can hold up
screw FoC, but i'm curious about charges
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If this was my mom or something I'd kill this motherfucker. Ugly too.
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So he is going to a prison for 3 years for peeing on someone. Not to mention there wasnt even a victim. Would he get 3 years if she was alive? What about if she was already dead? Sounds like harsh punishment.
Answer the question: what would you do if someone did this to your mom?
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So he is going to a prison for 3 years for peeing on someone. Not to mention there wasnt even a victim. Would he get 3 years if she was alive? What about if she was already dead? Sounds like harsh punishment.
Answer the question: what would you do if someone did this to your mom?
I would probably kick their ass. But im not the government.
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So he is going to a prison for 3 years for peeing on someone. Not to mention there wasnt even a victim. Would he get 3 years if she was alive? What about if she was already dead? Sounds like harsh punishment.
Answer the question: what would you do if someone did this to your mom?
I would probably kick their ass. But im not the government.
What would Ron Paul do in this situation?
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In a number of states urinating on someone is considered sexual assault so the penalty is often concordant with that of rape.
Wow
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As much as I would say that I would beat them up. I have never gotten in a fight so I doubt I would act on my anger.
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Why "wow" FoC? Any idea of the transmittable diseases from urine?
Eh. I'll agree that urinating on someone in most cases probably shouldn't be labeled so severe as "assault", but this is obviously the exception.
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Why "wow" FoC? Any idea of the transmittable diseases from urine?
Urination shouldnt be considered rape.
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i want to shit on foc's mom's face while she's asleep. she'll get a pink eye.
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he didn't say it was considered rape, bumblefuck; he said it is considered assault on a level similar to that of rape, i.e. is judged and punished at the same level
you are fatuous and stupid
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he didn't say it was considered rape, bumblefuck; he said it is considered assault on a level similar to that of rape, i.e. is judged and punished at the same level
you are fatuous and stupid
So its sentenced like rape? Someone who rapes and someone who urinates can get the same sentence?
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yes, because proper justice does, in fact, sentence each crime in a vaccuum and not according to the dictates of some crazy-ass ron paul nutcase's grossly relative morality.
the fact that it carries a weight similar to that of rape is wholly a matter of circumstance, given that the proscribed punishments for each were designated independent of each other
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yes, because proper justice does, in fact, sentence each crime in a vaccuum and not according to the dictates of some crazy-ass ron paul nutcase's grossly relative morality.
And how are these sentences decided, in a proper justice?
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by weighing the potential level of harm to the individual? someone pissing on me and giving me malaria or tb is far far FAR worse than someone punching me in the mouth, assclown
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by weighing the potential level of harm to the individual? someone pissing on me and giving me malaria or tb is far far FAR worse than someone punching me in the mouth, assclown
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that there is a far greater chance of passing disease through sex than urination. But I see what you are saying. I guess jail might be appropriate in this situation but 3 years seems pretty stiff.
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if i toss a stick of soggy dynamite at you, chances are it won't go off. it's still assault with deadly intent -- even if i did it just to be funny. law should never show lenience on account of stupidity.
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by weighing the potential level of harm to the individual? someone pissing on me and giving me malaria or tb is far far FAR worse than someone punching me in the mouth, assclown
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that there is a far greater chance of passing disease through sex than urination. But I see what you are saying. I guess jail might be appropriate in this situation but 3 years seems pretty stiff.
and if i intentionally piss on you with your permission, i don't get in trouble. intentional sex without consent is rape. intentionally pissing on someone without consent is assault. it ain't hard! (proving intention can be the tricky bit in both cases, but in the case we're discussing, that's really not a problem.)
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and if i intentionally piss on you with your permission, i don't get in trouble. intentional sex without consent is rape. intentionally pissing on someone without consent is assault. it ain't hard!
It's hard to piss on someone with a hard-on! Well, unless that "someone" is yourself.
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r. kelly would beg to differ!
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Where did all this consent and non consent business come from? Im assume that all the situation you said were non consent. I dont give a fuck if they were consented.
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consider it a pre-emptive tactic to avoid your stupid semantic wrangling
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r. kelly would beg to differ!
he didn't have a hard-on though. or so i've heard *whistle*
NO, REALLY *whistle*
germans like to piss on each other in their porn without any notice and it's like, what? i wasn't expecting that.
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What can he be charged with outside of indecent exposure? Neglect? I dunno if that can hold up
screw FoC, but i'm curious about charges
the article only says that he was charged with public indecency but he DID just let a woman die in front of him so there may be another charge for not doing anything.
and holy fuck, I didn't think foc was this stupid.
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and holy fuck, I didn't think foc was this stupid.
really? it hasn't been apparent this entire time?
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really? it hasn't been apparent this entire time?
not THIS stupid. I thought MAYBE he would suggest this guy should go to a mental hospital or something. I hope somebody rapes this guy to death in jail, he deserves no better.
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really? it hasn't been apparent this entire time?
not THIS stupid. I thought MAYBE he would suggest this guy should go to a mental hospital or something. I hope somebody rapes this guy to death in jail, he deserves no better.
So you think a proper punishment is rape for someone who does this?
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really? it hasn't been apparent this entire time?
not THIS stupid. I thought MAYBE he would suggest this guy should go to a mental hospital or something. I hope somebody rapes this guy to death in jail, he deserves no better.
So you think a proper punishment is rape for someone who does this?
No, but if I came across him being raped I probably wouldn't stop it from happening.
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Sexual assault is any form of nonconsenting sexual activity, which encompasses all unwanted sexual acts ranging from fondling to penetration. Definitions of sexual assault vary from state to state.[1] Sexual assault is a crime even if the victim knew the attacker, did not fight back, had intercourse with the attacker before the assault, or was intoxicated, drugged or unconscious. Anyone is a potential victim. This crime crosses all races and spans all ages.
You're right, urination falls under that category. Do some research FoC >:(
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really? it hasn't been apparent this entire time?
not THIS stupid. I thought MAYBE he would suggest this guy should go to a mental hospital or something. I hope somebody rapes this guy to death in jail, he deserves no better.
So you think a proper punishment is rape for someone who does this?
No, but if I came across him being raped I probably wouldn't stop it from happening.
exactly. besides, you need some way to pay the prisoner to kill him.
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I've neither been raped nor urinated on and subjected to cruel and degrading public humiliation while fucking dying in the street, so I can't say for sure, but it's plausible that the latter could be at least as bad as the former.
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If we have hate crime law, we should also have dirtying the gene pool law.
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I'm truly amazed (no I'm not) that internet libertarianism has spawned a group of people that will defend the rights of drunks who piss on dying people to make a point. You should be ashamed of yourself, FoC.
You're assuming that it has the ability to understand the concept of shame.
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I'm truly amazed (no I'm not) that internet libertarianism has spawned a group of people that will defend the rights of drunks who piss on dying people to make a point. You should be ashamed of yourself, FoC.
I'm not defending him you asshole!!!
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No, but you are defending a position that assumes the government (state government no less) is overstepping its boundaries when giving someone three years in jail for gross public indecency and sexual assault. Same difference in the end.
Sexual assault... come on. Im sure the guy wasn't sexual assaulting her. The article only mentions public indecency.
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i only added "intentional" to keep the argument scoped. clearly, it's "lack of consent" that makes the crime.
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i'm going to trip and fall cock first -- and in a hilariously youtube-appropriate manner -- into foc's ass
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Was he charged with Sexual assault?
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Was he charged with Sexual assault?
Your mom was.
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Just kill him.
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really? it hasn't been apparent this entire time?
not THIS stupid. I thought MAYBE he would suggest this guy should go to a mental hospital or something. I hope somebody rapes this guy to death in jail, he deserves no better.
So you think a proper punishment is rape for someone who does this?
No, but if I came across him being raped I probably wouldn't stop it from happening.
I would film it. It would make for a hilarious YouTube video.
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They should have given everyone in that crowd gathered around six months, as well.
We need another good worldwide plague to thin some of these fucking monsters out of the gene pool.
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They should have given everyone in that crowd gathered around six months, as well.
We need another good worldwide plague to thin some of these fucking monsters out of the gene pool.
Sadly, plague is rather inexact in who it kills. However, when the Revolution comes, rest assured they will be among the first up against the wall.
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Jesus fucking christ. I leave this forum for 4 months and i come back to see that FOC is still as dumb as a brick. My god, i can't believe i defended the guy.
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who are you? don't really remember.
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Fucking chav scum... doesn't the UK also have a problem with lads jumping random people on the street, kicking their asses, and recording it on their mobile phones to upload to youtube, as well?
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So he is going to a prison for 3 years for peeing on someone. Not to mention there wasnt even a victim. Would he get 3 years if she was alive? What about if she was already dead? Sounds like harsh punishment.
Answer the question: what would you do if someone did this to your mom?
I would probably kick their ass. But im not the government.
Well, taking the law into your own hands does not work. Parties who have been wronged and are unable to take the law into their own hands won't obtain justice. On the other hand, parties who have been wronged and are able to take the law into their own hands often go too far and act unjustly. In a law of nature some people could urinate on people with impunity. That is until, I don't know, people bandied together and created laws against such actions.
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Even exposing your genitals to someone is sexual assault, so how does this distinguished mentally-challenged fellow figure exposing them and then PISSING OUT OF THEM ONTO SOMEONE is not also sexual assault?
DAMN
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I really hope they find out that she was like already dead when he peed on her. because if she were still alive, maybe she could have been saved had he called for help instead of being a jerk. I feel sorry for her family. :(
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You know I am going to agree with FoC and say that 3 years is too harsh a sentence.
not because Ithink it's too harsh a sentence though.
Because my best friend's brother was killed byu a drink driver. As in killed dead and his family could never see him get married, have children, anything. And the guy who killed him served like a year in jail and now he's out and, guess what, drinks all the time and beats up his girlfriend and stuff. :(
The whole judicial system is screwed up.
There's also a serial killer who killed 13 people, most of them his own family, in mycity in 1982. He's been on death row since then. Death row for longer than I've been alive. That's like really pathetic.
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You know I am going to agree with FoC and say that 3 years is too harsh a sentence.
not because Ithink it's too harsh a sentence though.
Because my best friend's brother was killed byu a drink driver. As in killed dead and his family could never see him get married, have children, anything. And the guy who killed him served like a year in jail and now he's out and, guess what, drinks all the time and beats up his girlfriend and stuff. :(
The whole judicial system is screwed up.
There's also a serial killer who killed 13 people, most of them his own family, in mycity in 1982. He's been on death row since then. Death row for longer than I've been alive. That's like really pathetic.
Sometimes stuff like that makes you want to take the law into your own hands.
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You know I am going to agree with FoC and say that 3 years is too harsh a sentence.
not because Ithink it's too harsh a sentence though.
Because my best friend's brother was killed byu a drink driver. As in killed dead and his family could never see him get married, have children, anything. And the guy who killed him served like a year in jail and now he's out and, guess what, drinks all the time and beats up his girlfriend and stuff. :(
The whole judicial system is screwed up.
There's also a serial killer who killed 13 people, most of them his own family, in mycity in 1982. He's been on death row since then. Death row for longer than I've been alive. That's like really pathetic.
Sometimes stuff like that makes you want to take the law into your own hands.
Absolutely. The guy pretty much wrecked my friend's family. This happened in 2001 and her mom JUST stopped having this empty look all the time because they moved into a new house. It was like the memories were killing her.
And still, the guy beats his girlfriend and everything, which I think makes it even worse. Sometimes people do something bad, serve some time in jail, and come out a better person. Not this asshole.
I don't remember what he looks like and I'm glad I don't. I'm not sure I could keep myself from at least verbally tearing him a new asshole if I ever saw him.
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thats the type of person that i deserve to be in a room with for 1 hour while i literally beat his ass, time and time again and eventually kill him from all of the punches. to make the world a better place.
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after that, piss on his corpse for the ultimate youtube material.
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thats the type of person that i deserve to be in a room with for 1 hour while i literally beat his ass, time and time again and eventually kill him from all of the punches. to make the world a better place.
(http://www.fehja.com/steve/RyuOwns.gif)
would you use SF moves and call them out as you did them? :-*
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I don't think the fact that some people aren't punished severely enough is reason enough to lighten his sentence. 3 years sounds good to me.
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I don't think the fact that some people aren't punished severely enough is reason enough to lighten his sentence. 3 years sounds good to me.
I agree. I mean by comparison though, 3 years is a lifetime for this dude. But I still think 3 years was a good sentence. Do I make sense at all? Sorry. :(
The US justice system needs a total overhaul CONFIRMED.