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Title: THE JOKER
Post by: bud on November 01, 2007, 04:07:54 PM
(http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/hw800/23406.jpg)

:bow
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Kyle on November 01, 2007, 04:09:33 PM
holy mother ***** shit
:bow
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: SpudBud on November 01, 2007, 04:10:21 PM
Fucking awesome!  :D
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 01, 2007, 04:11:52 PM
still looks crap

the Joker is tall and lean, sharp and clean, with him there's no in between

not some goddamn homeless hobo homo bobobo
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 04:34:44 PM
I still think Nolan's TEH GRITTAY approach doesn't work at all for the Joker.  He does look more like The Hobo.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 01, 2007, 04:35:33 PM
Guess what?  I THINK IT WORKS SO TAKE THAT.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 04:38:34 PM
Guess what?  I THINK IT WORKS SO TAKE THAT.

You also thought Transformers worked. 
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 01, 2007, 04:45:32 PM
Robots did fight each on screen, so by the definition, it did work!
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 01, 2007, 04:53:16 PM
Robots did fight each on screen, so by the definition, it did work!

Michael Bay could take a shit and you would call it acceptable, sir.  I know this because it happened once already this year.

As for the Joker.... eh, I got mixed feelings.  I think the movie will be pretty good to awesome but I don't know how I feel about the Joker.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 05:15:54 PM
I still think Nolan's TEH GRITTAY approach doesn't work at all for the Joker.  He does look more like The Hobo.

Whereas something like this:
(http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/images/joker-harley-costumes.jpg)
would fit any better?  No, just no man.  Everything about Nolan's vision is based on realism, and this is pretty much as close to "real" as they're going to get.  It looks fine.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 05:16:34 PM
Heath Ledger is fucking awesome. I've loved his work since 10 Things I Hate About You.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 05:18:28 PM
I still think Nolan's TEH GRITTAY approach doesn't work at all for the Joker.  He does look more like The Hobo.

Whereas something like this:
(http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/images/joker-harley-costumes.jpg)
would fit any better?  No, just no man.  Everything about Nolan's vision is based on realism, and this is pretty much as close to "real" as they're going to get.  It looks fine.

That's a false dichotomy.  How is Nolan's vision close to what a "real" Joker would be like?  What about the Joker makes him seem like he should be a hobo?
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 05:22:52 PM
When the franchise was handed to Chris Nolan the idea of a "super villian" type of character was gone from the start.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 05:33:09 PM
When did the Joker stop being a fun character?  He was only ever interesting as the classic foil to Batman.  If both of them are SUPER PISSED and DARK and OUT FOR REVENGE where does that leave you?  A shitty crime story?

When was it ever said that the Joker was going to be SUPER PISSED and OUT FOR REVENGE? This is the same Joker we all know.  He's cruel yet hysterical, he uses puns at innappropriate times, etc.  He is STILL Batman's foil.  He just looks like he fits into Nolan's Gotham instead of what people are used to him looking like.

And TVC, he's not a hobo.  He's a man who puts on make-up and has some sort of distortion to his smile, like a burn or cut or something, to achieve his act of being the Joker.  That's a way that describes the character that makes it fit into Nolan's world.  If you had a Nicholson Joekr in a movie the thrives on a more realistic approach, it wouldn't fit.  At all.  Chemicals like the ones he falls into don't bleach your skin.  They fucking kill you.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 05:34:13 PM
When the franchise was handed to Chris Nolan the idea of a "super villian" type of character was gone from the start.

The Joker's key traits have very little to do with super villain-y.  They could be transferred to a non super-villain with ease.  

Oh, don't give me the line about how Nolan's Gotham is REALISTIC, either.  That excuse could be disassembled really easily.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 05:36:22 PM
Nolan's gotham is just a brown tinted chicago.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 05:37:15 PM
Yeah, you're probably right. *shrugs*

I'm just saying his whole point in starting this series of movies was to give a fresh and a bit more believable take of the Batman stories.  Maybe not at all realistic, but tons more fucking realistic than the shit we're used to.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 01, 2007, 05:38:33 PM
Yeah, I enjoyed the realism in that fight in the Tibetan mountains (or wherever), and I especially enjoyed the realism of that fight on the monorail train on the 10-story framework running through the middle of the city.  So realistic, at times I thought I could detect the faint smell of vinyl wafting off Batman's extremely realistic costume.  The most realistic part was when he realistically glided with his practical and realistic cape, which was grounded in realism the way it hardened all up into a glider at the touch of a button.  And the realistic car climbing up realistic buildings and realistically jumping across rooftops.  It was so fucking realistic from start to finish I began to believe in Batman like a kid believes in Santa, and wanted to write him a letter thanking him for saving Gotham
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2007, 05:39:21 PM
This is the first time I've been impressed with a Joker pic. I love how it's a more realistic portrayal; he looks like a crazy ass bastard, but still menacing. I agree with TVC's main point with respect who the Joker is, and how he should be portrayed in the film. I'd like to see a serious looking Joker (like that pic depicts) who tells dead baby jokes. That type of disturbed humor would fit perfectly
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 05:49:13 PM
Yeah, I enjoyed the realism in that fight in the Tibetan mountains (or wherever), and I especially enjoyed the realism of that fight on the monorail train on the 10-story framework running through the middle of the city.  So realistic, at times I thought I could detect the faint smell of vinyl wafting off Batman's extremely realistic costume.  The most realistic part was when he realistically glided with his practical and realistic cape, which was grounded in realism the way it hardened all up into a glider at the touch of a button.  And the realistic car climbing up realistic buildings and realistically jumping across rooftops.  It was so fucking realistic from start to finish I began to believe in Batman like a kid believes in Santa, and wanted to write him a letter thanking him for saving Gotham

That's much more believable than bat-nipples.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: SpudBud on November 01, 2007, 05:57:49 PM
Oh man, what a piece of shit movie B&R was.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 06:05:01 PM
lol spudbud
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 01, 2007, 06:06:41 PM
As an updated version of the Batman TV show,
spoiler (click to show/hide)
it still sucked
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Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 06:18:28 PM
I never saw the two terrible Batman movies.  Are they good to watch for the fiasco factor?
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: SpudBud on November 01, 2007, 06:26:47 PM
I never saw the two terrible Batman movies.  Are they good to watch for the fiasco factor?
Sure, in "Batman and Robin" alone you get batman with nipples, batman on ice and Arnold's bad acting. It's almost the perfect shitty summer blockbuster.  
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 06:34:26 PM
I never saw the two terrible Batman movies.  Are they good to watch for the fiasco factor?

Batman and Robin is honestly probably worse than Catwoman, and I think I remember you saying that you watched that.  It's so fucking horrible, it's incredible.  Give it a rent, you'll seriously crack up from it.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 06:35:16 PM
I haven't watched Catwoman, I just WANT to watch it.  If I ever see it in a bargain bin, it is mine.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 06:36:30 PM
Oh well see if you can find both in the same shitty bin.  :lol

It would be a night of epic shittyness if you had a double poopy movie night.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Vizzys on November 01, 2007, 06:41:05 PM
I never saw the two terrible Batman movies.  Are they good to watch for the fiasco factor?

Allow me to break the ice. My name is Freeze. Learn it well, for it's the chilling sound of your doom.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 06:46:46 PM
Robin: I hate to disappoint you but my rubber lips are immune to your charms.
-----
Mr. Freeze: You're not sending ME to the COOLER!
-----
Bruce Wayne: I'm going after Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy, "alone".
Dick Grayson: Alone?
Bruce Wayne: That's right, Dick. I want them so much, I can taste it.
Dick Grayson: What? Nobody can face them but the big, bad bat?
Bruce Wayne: It's Poison Ivy too. She has us fighting over her.
Dick Grayson: Yeah right. You're just saying that so I can't kiss her, is that it.
Bruce Wayne: Listen dick, it's a poisonous kiss.
Dick Grayson: A poisonous kiss? You don’t understand. She understands how I feel.
Bruce Wayne: She has clouded your mind and you're not thinking straight.
Dick Grayson: I "am" thinking straight. For the first time in a long time. I want a Robin signal in the sky, I'm sick of being in your shadow.
-----
Cop: Please show some mercy!
Freeze: I'm afraid my condition has left me cold to your pleas of mercy.
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Robin: I need a sign that you've turned over a new leaf.
Ivy: How about "slippery when wet?"
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Robin: I want a car, chicks dig the car.
Batman: This is why Superman works alone.
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Mr. Freeze: Ice to see you!
-----

Plus so so so much more horrible dialogue.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: SpudBud on November 01, 2007, 06:48:59 PM
Oh, I almost forgot about Catwoman. What a shitty movie.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: bud on November 01, 2007, 06:53:15 PM
schumacher should've never quit his window dresser job
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2007, 06:55:58 PM
Forever>>>>>B&R
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 07:01:56 PM
Forever>>>>>B&R
duh?
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Robo on November 01, 2007, 07:04:09 PM
Bruce Wayne: I'm going after Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy, "alone".
Dick Grayson: Alone?
Bruce Wayne: That's right, Dick. I want them so much, I can taste it.
Dick Grayson: What? Nobody can face them but the big, bad bat?
Bruce Wayne: It's Poison Ivy too. She has us fighting over her.
Dick Grayson: Yeah right. You're just saying that so I can't kiss her, is that it.
Bruce Wayne: Listen dick, it's a poisonous kiss.
Dick Grayson: A poisonous kiss? You don’t understand. She understands how I feel.
Bruce Wayne: She has clouded your mind and you're not thinking straight.
Dick Grayson: I "am" thinking straight. For the first time in a long time. I want a Robin signal in the sky, I'm sick of being in your shadow.

 :dizzy
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2007, 07:06:03 PM
Forever>>>>>B&R
duh?

Billy Rygar needs to be set right
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: thekavorka on November 01, 2007, 07:06:31 PM
the first time i saw that pic, I thought Joker was holding up a black dildo
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 07:10:19 PM
Such a waste of Heath Ledger.  I mean, why even give him the job if you are going to make him look like that?
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 07:12:16 PM
Such a waste of Heath Ledger.  I mean, why even give him the job if you are going to make him look like that?
Ledger is starring in the next Gilliam flick. ( :-* or  :-\ you never know with modern gilliam)
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 07:14:51 PM
Such a waste of Heath Ledger.  I mean, why even give him the job if you are going to make him look like that?
Ledger is starring in the next Gilliam flick. ( :-* or  :-\ you never know with modern gilliam)

Heath Ledger
Christopher Plummer
Tom Waits
Verne Troyer

Quite the cast!
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 07:17:23 PM
And from the writer of Brazil
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 07:21:31 PM
And from the writer of Brazil

Written by Charles McKeon and Terry Gilliam.  They write most of Gilliam's movies, including Brazil.  However, Tom Stoppard has a writing credit on Brazil, but not on this.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 07:24:01 PM
And from the writer of Brazil

Written by Charles McKeon and Terry Gilliam.  They write most of Gilliam's movies, including Brazil.  However, Tom Stoppard has a writing credit on Brazil, but not on this.
Tom Stoppard did a uncredited rewrite on the third star wars prequel.  :-\
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 01, 2007, 08:01:25 PM
And from the writer of Brazil

Written by Charles McKeon and Terry Gilliam.  They write most of Gilliam's movies, including Brazil.  However, Tom Stoppard has a writing credit on Brazil, but not on this.
Tom Stoppard did a uncredited rewrite on the third star wars prequel.  :-\

I can see why he didn't want any credit.

Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead  :bow
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: brawndolicious on November 01, 2007, 08:40:48 PM
it looks like shit.  the old burton one actually scared the shit out of you.  that's what I don't like about these new nolan batmans, too goddamn gay.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 09:05:49 PM
the old burton one actually scared the shit out of you.
Yes I agree this is a lot scarier:
(http://superherouniverse.com/wallpaper/fanart/bingham/batman/joker.jpg)

than this:
(http://stuntgoat.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/joker.jpg)
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 01, 2007, 09:07:01 PM
TVC has been able to build a somewhat credible argument for his relative dislike for Nolan's Batman in contrast to the glowing opinion most have for it, but every time this debate occurs with am nintenho, it devolves into an incoherent mess.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: brawndolicious on November 01, 2007, 09:07:48 PM
you dumbfuck, if jack nicholson shitted on your face until you suffocated that would be the closest thing you could have to an honorable death.

I mean seriously, if you don't think the way the "joker" was presented in those movies was better, just crawl into a sewer and eat whatever you find because you don't deserve jack's shit.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 09:09:37 PM
That doesn't explain how you called the nicholson's joker "scarier".


[youtube=425,350]sx9ZvmnFCX8[/youtube]
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: brawndolicious on November 01, 2007, 09:13:13 PM
because he acts like a sociopath and a genius.  not a hobo.  do you find hobos scary?

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m269/QuickSilver_06/n30318028_32433868_9859.jpg)
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 09:16:51 PM
I didn't know Heath Ledger's character wanders the street asking for change.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Ichirou on November 01, 2007, 09:38:39 PM
The Joker looks like Gay Boy after a night on the town.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Eduardo24 on November 01, 2007, 09:41:56 PM
They should have picked another villain. The joker in live-action just looks stupid
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 10:07:45 PM
They should have picked another villain. The joker in live-action just looks stupid

Ugh.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 10:42:38 PM
TVC has been able to build a somewhat credible argument for his relative dislike for Nolan's Batman in contrast to the glowing opinion most have for it, but every time this debate occurs with am nintenho, it devolves into an incoherent mess.

I like Batman Begins!  I freely admit that I like trolling it though (people that think Nolan and Bale are gods make me roll my eyes), and I do overall kind of like the original Burton Batman better.  Say what you will about grittiness, I dig Burton's unified visual style, and I think such style is more true to comic books than Nolan's gritty takes.  I think Gritty + Comic Books and I think of the shit comics Image inflicted on us all, thank you very much.

Anyway, I liked Batman Begins, but this Joker thing just rubs me the wrong way.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 10:48:51 PM
Trolling Nolan's Batman is too much fun.  The fans are just too serious for it not to be, and them forgetting you're talking about BATMAN makes it even better.  Great movie though!

I knew it would be a great target from the beginning, because the fanboys had practically indoctrinated the movie before it was even out.  Watching them pray week, by week, trying to determine if it "had legs" was hilarious.  That thread was a near cousin to the Blu Ray/HD-DVD thread when it came down to sad, sad rah rahing.  They so wanted the movie to be great and perfect that they wouldn't let anyone hint otherwise.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 10:54:17 PM
Like I keep saying. Chris Nolan gets so much love on the internet because his fans are blockbuster fegs who never been exposed to a non-blockbuster or comedy movie outside of Nolan's work. He is a "serious" director for those who never watched a drama and since thats all they know they ride his dick like there is no tomorrow.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2007, 10:57:01 PM
Trolling Nolan's Batman is too much fun.  The fans are just too serious for it not to be, and them forgetting you're talking about BATMAN makes it even better.  Great movie though!

you don't get it. BATMAN is so real. he doesn't have super powers  :o

Nolan+Bale>Hitchcock+Stewart  :bow



spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 10:59:12 PM
I'd like to think I'm not a huge dicksucker of Nolan and Bale, but I do have an American Pyscho avatar at gaf. :/

I don't know, when you say it rubs you the wrong way, I think it rubs me the right way.  I think Nolan had and still does have a very interesting approach that hasn't been represented in the Batman franchise before.  And yeah, it's just fucking Batman, but oh well, I like Batman, an reading Batman, and watching Batman. *shrugs*

The Burton flicks are pretty great, yeah.  But it almost seems like a parody of the whole franchise...I don't know.  I like it when the comics got a bit more serious and were a bit more focused on character overall allegorical aspects, so that's why Begins is my favorite.  Even though it doesn't stand for anything, it's just a pretty cool style that I've been wanting from a Batman movie.

Oh jesus christ I need to stop talking, I just used the word allegory in the same response with batman. ugh.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 10:59:59 PM
Like I keep saying. Chris Nolan gets so much love on the internet because his fans are blockbuster fegs who never been exposed to a non-blockbuster or comedy movie outside of Nolan's work. He is a "serious" director for those who never watched a drama and since thats all they know they ride his dick like there is no tomorrow.

Oh yeah, I know.  It's just endlessly silly to see people whom only feel validated about their opinion (is it really an independent opinion if it is contingent on validation?) if something is successful on a large scale.  It reminds me of some of the dumber critics around today that publicly make proclamations about how there are no classic books written today, or no philosophers that will ever be remembered.  Completely blind to everything that's in front of them.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 11:02:15 PM
I love Nolan flicks and think he is a great director but the internet obsession is insane. There are people in that gaf topic who seem to honestly believe that Bale is deserving of an oscar for playing Batman.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 11:03:19 PM
I love Nolan flicks and think he is a great director but the internet obsession is insane. There are people in that gaf topic who seem to honestly believe that Bale is deserving of an oscar for playing Batman.

Yeah it gets pretty distinguished mentally-challenged.  I love him as much as the next American Pyscho lover, but he's not really deserving of any award recognition.   At least not for Batman anyway.  :lol
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 11:06:32 PM
Bale's good, but I'm not sure if he's great.  He's shown that he's really skilled at picking collaborators, and taking roles that suit his strengths, but amongst his notable roles, I don't see a whole lot of range, so far.

Nolan's a pretty good director.  I actually think that taking Batman movies is kind of slumming it for him, but if he has success with more than one of these, he could probably get whatever he wants bankrolled, so overall I suppose it's a smart strategy.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 11:10:17 PM
You liked the Prestige, right?
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 11:13:26 PM
You liked the Prestige, right?
I am pretty sure TVC called it one of his favorites last year, may be confusing him with someone else though.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 11:14:52 PM
I think I remember him saying that he liked Jackman better than Bale, but again maybe that was drinky, I forget.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 11:16:13 PM
I liked the Prestige, but I think I knocked it down to a 6 out of 10 after they fucked everything up with the dumb exposition at the end where they explained everything to you just in case you were distinguished mentally-challenged and missed the plot.  And Jackman > Bale!
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 11:20:01 PM
All the way to a 6?  Fuck you're harsh.  :lol
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 11:21:53 PM
It was half jokey!  I'd say the movie was an 8.  That sort of story is an old one, and although it was pulled off very well and with plenty of style, it wasn't transcendant.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Ichirou on November 01, 2007, 11:22:21 PM
The exposition at the end smacks of studio interference.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 11:23:18 PM
Oh and also Scarlet Johannson can't act.  At least not in the Prestige.  But hot damn those tits.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 01, 2007, 11:23:48 PM
yeah, the exposition at the end was really awkwardly edited in -- which is totally un-nolan. distinguished mentally-challenged gaf fanboys aside, nolan is a master of the editing craft, and that expository bit was very much NOT him.

i am sure there will be a director's cut to make me double dip :'(
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 11:24:29 PM
I remember reading a interview somewhere where Nolan said he hates director's cuts of movies and wont do them I think.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 11:24:35 PM
The exposition at the end smacks of studio interference.

Yeah, I know.  It was just especially bad exposition.  It wasn't just exposition for the ending, or the third act. . .it was the WHOLE FUCKING STORY.  Let's sum up the entire movie in 5 minutes for the people in the audience related to Synbios!
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 01, 2007, 11:24:58 PM
gb, isn't he mister hollywood rebel!
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 11:26:14 PM
Eh, Nolan isnt a artsy rebel. All his favorite movies are studio stuff (2001, Blade Runner, & On Her Majesty's' Secret Service)
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 01, 2007, 11:27:36 PM
I wonder what he plans to do after the Dark Knight.  He should branch out a bit more.

Dramedy here we come!
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 01, 2007, 11:28:55 PM
Eh, Nolan isnt a artsy rebel. All his favorite movies are studio stuff (2001, Blade Runner, & On Her Majesty's' Secret Service)

Oh come on!  All three of those movies are renegades in one way or another.  2001, by Kubrick, Blade Runner, which invented the director's cut, and On Her Majesty's Secret Service, the Lazenby Bond film!
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 01, 2007, 11:29:20 PM
someone should ask him if he preferred the theatrical cut of blade runner so we can laugh at him
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: Gay Boy on November 01, 2007, 11:44:24 PM
I admit it takes guts for a director to call a bond film one of his favorite movies ever, lazenby at that.  :lol
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: brawndolicious on November 02, 2007, 05:14:41 AM
okay, let me explain why I have my opinions.  I love batman, I read the comics and he was my favorite superhero.  I kept on watching the burton batmans over and over as a kid (at least once a week).  The reason I got into the comics was because you never got any random, quite horribly written explanations for his superpowers, which is why I hated the comics that included a superman cameo.  Now imagine being a fan of the comics at that age and then seeing the burton films, they perfectly took the batman story and put it onto film.  Now I can see why you might love that nolan went hardkore and put some grit but for any real batman fan, the way the burton ones did it defined what a batman film looks like but then nolan decided to just spit in the face of the original.

I was worried because in the interviews with nolan, he didn't show that he was a longtime fan willing to due justice and give the REAL batman fans what they wanted.  he gave internet movie nerds some weird-ass shit to jack off on but I didn't like it.
Title: Re: THE JOKER
Post by: TVC15 on November 02, 2007, 05:18:25 AM
I almost wrote something similar, but I ended up deleting it for a few reasons.

I was going to say that from what Nolan did with Batman Begins, I figured that he wasn't a Batman fan outside of the movies and the comics that were batted around as inspiration for BB.  I couldn't really back it up without having seen BB recently, so I just canned the post.  But yes, to me it at least felt like his heart was (slightly) on the wrong side of the Comic Book Fan and Movie cigarillo see saw.
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Post by: brawndolicious on November 02, 2007, 05:24:43 AM
yeah, that's what I expected ever since I heard what the movie would be like and I was disappointed as fuck when I actually saw it.
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Post by: bagofeyes on November 02, 2007, 05:37:04 AM
I like hobo joker. Should be cool this flick.
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Post by: Fresh Prince on November 02, 2007, 05:40:07 AM
I though the Joker was supposed to smile, intead going by the promo shots we have an emo hobo.
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Post by: Gay Boy on November 02, 2007, 09:01:57 AM
I was going to say that from what Nolan did with Batman Begins, I figured that he wasn't a Batman fan outside of the movies and the comics
I heard him say he liked the animated series before.
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Post by: brawndolicious on November 02, 2007, 04:09:38 PM
a tv show and film are pretty different though.  and the cartoon kind of jumped the shark ever since they started saying shway so I haven't checked what the new batman fans are like.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 02, 2007, 04:16:02 PM
i liked the exposition  :-\