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Title: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on December 09, 2007, 09:48:03 AM
(http://i15.tinypic.com/7xj0uhv.jpg)

3 days to go

finally my $599 is justified!
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: brawndolicious on December 09, 2007, 09:51:49 AM
please quickly explain who the fuck you are.

I don't mean to be mean but we just had a situation yesterday with a paraplegic stalker having his second joke account banned for mass PMing people pictures of small celebrity penis.  we are getting the situation under control.  WELCOME TO THE BORE.

anyways, so what does Prologue have?  it's like $30 so I assume it comes with a decent number of cars and modes?  will the demo have multiplayer?  What are they adding to the next GT in terms of gameplay?  I'm genuinely interested since this seems like a huge cash cow that's been getting fine tuned for a lot of years (I've never really liked a GT game though).
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on December 09, 2007, 09:57:32 AM
please quickly explain who the fuck you are.

I don't mean to be mean but we just had a situation yesterday with a paraplegic stalker having his second joke account banned for mass PMing people pictures of small celebrity penis.  we are getting the situation under control.  WELCOME TO THE BORE.


i am not that person.

anyways, so what does Prologue have?  it's like $30 so I assume it comes with a decent number of cars and modes?  will the demo have multiplayer?  What are they adding to the next GT in terms of gameplay?  I'm genuinely interested since this seems like a huge cash cow that's been getting fine tuned for a lot of years (I've never really liked a GT game though).

more like $40.

16 player online.

dunno about cars and tracks but confirmed so far (copy/pasta):

Acura NSX '91
Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06
Alfa Romeo Brera Sky Window 3.2 JTS Q4 '06
Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro '07
Audi R8 4.2 FSI R tronic '07
BMW Z4 '03
BMW 135i Coupe '07
Daihatsu Copen Active Top '02
Daihatsu OFC-1 '07
Dodge VIPER GTS '02
Ferrari F430 '06
Ford Mustang V8 GT Coupe Premium '07
Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione '91
Lexus IS F '07
Lotus Elise '96
Mazda ATENZA Sport (2007 Tokyo Motor Show reference exhibit)
Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230) '02
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR '05
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR Premium Package '07
Nissan GT-R '07
Nissan GT-R Proto '05
Renault Clio Renault Sport V6 24V '00
Subaru IMPREZA WRX STI '07
Suzuki SWIFT Sport '07
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00
Volkswagen Golf IV GTI '01

Suzuka Circuit
Daytona International Speedway
Fuji International Speedway

there is more, though.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: brawndolicious on December 09, 2007, 10:03:57 AM
ah.  will be interesting to see how well it does.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: bud on December 09, 2007, 10:11:42 AM
it'll probably bomb like every ps3 game does.

the game looks amazing, though.
[youtube=425,350]kNUlXuiPfgk[/youtube]
:drool :drool

lyte, will you be getting this?
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 09, 2007, 10:56:01 AM
 4,980円

Why not pay an extra 300 yen and get Uncharted, which is actually not a demo
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Himu on December 09, 2007, 12:08:46 PM
Gran Turismo fucking sucks.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on December 09, 2007, 12:47:04 PM
4,980円

Why not pay an extra 300 yen and get Uncharted, which is actually not a demo

why pay 300 extra for crap when you can pay 300 less for a demo of awesome?

Gran Turismo fucking sucks.

negative, captain.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Himu on December 09, 2007, 12:48:03 PM
driving around track for 3 hours

hey look i'm driving and driving and driving

this gt4 review sums up my thoughts about gran turismo

http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/gt4/review-gt4.htm
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Himu on December 09, 2007, 12:58:30 PM
Quote
Gran Turismo 4 is tedious and gruelling and slapped together with little rhyme or reason, but boy, is there ever a lot of it. From the miles-wide expanse of the main menu screen to the hundreds of cars with thousands of tweakable settings, from the scores of courses and challenges to the hundreds of times you'll have to race each track to get your hands on a decent proportion of the game's content, GT4 will keep you glued to the screen for months, in the same sense that your eyes are glued to the inside of your eyelids in the morning when you wake up with a really bad hangover after drinking cheap dog-lager in a miserable, tacky town-centre chain pub all night. And why fight it? Stay asleep, consumer.

The medical profession refers to cheap, bulky food with little or no nutritional value as being packed with "empty calories" - stuff that'll keep you chewing for a long time and make you fat, but do you no good. But that's easy for them to say, because they have good jobs and plenty of money to buy the nice healthy stuff with. Only critics and the wealthy can afford the luxury of seeing, for all their bulk, just how "empty" games like Gran Turismo 4 truly are.

Your reporter is only too aware of the precisely zero difference that this article will make to the game's success. There probably isn't a single person alive in this country today whose decision about whether or not to buy GT4 will be shaped by a review, here or anywhere else. The games industry, by one means or another and helped by the cynicism and short-sighted stupidity of magazine publishers, has successfully lifted reviews all but entirely out of the buying equation. Your correspondent can only glance helplessly around at what videogames have become and the seemingly-unstoppable forces driving them there, look back at the promise they once held, and sink ever-further into despair. And oh my God, I can't believe it. I've never been this far away from home.

:bow :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on December 09, 2007, 01:02:47 PM
i think you just hate car sims.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: demi on December 09, 2007, 01:25:11 PM
hey i like your style new guy, you tell these cockfucks what's up
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Kyle on December 09, 2007, 01:33:10 PM
kyuubi
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 09, 2007, 03:33:25 PM
every thread around this place has become a bait thread recently
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: demi on December 09, 2007, 03:37:05 PM
every thread around this place has become a bait thread recently

GOTCHA, BITCH

BAWWWWW
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 09, 2007, 03:49:02 PM
one game will NEVER justify 600 dollars. distinguished mentally-challenged fellow
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: evilol on December 09, 2007, 04:01:37 PM
i had no idea the triple still costs 600 dollars
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Himu on December 09, 2007, 04:04:24 PM
isn't this a demo anyawys?
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on December 09, 2007, 04:13:40 PM
one game will NEVER justify 600 dollars. distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

no, but one game and a $40 demo of said game will lol
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 09, 2007, 04:46:49 PM
I happen to love GT, so I'm excited, but I am also not Japanese, so said excitement is tempered.

My primary reason for liking GT (and Forza) is that I am not Himu, who is a flabby suck mutant.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: demi on December 09, 2007, 04:48:03 PM
good enough reason
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Himu on December 09, 2007, 04:51:13 PM
I happen to love GT, so I'm excited, but I am also not Japanese, so said excitement is tempered.

My primary reason for liking GT (and Forza) is that I am not Himu, who is a flabby suck mutant.

 ;)
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 09, 2007, 04:55:10 PM
:D
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: The Sceneman on December 09, 2007, 06:37:33 PM
this will save the PS3 omg
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: The Sceneman on December 09, 2007, 06:39:26 PM
and why the fuck would anyone get excited about this when a copy of Outrun 2006 will play on a PS3
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Vizzys on December 09, 2007, 06:41:27 PM
fucking car sims

how do you play this shit and not want to kill yourself afterwards
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on December 09, 2007, 06:55:38 PM
it's true, i am on suicide watch because the only good thing on PS3 since launch is a $50 demo of a game due in 2009.

PS3 owners aren't just badly informed sheep, they are also gullible too!

Fingers crossed it's better than the sub-Forza prologue demo.

Better sharpen those razors !

p.s. everyone please recall that i said at least one PS3 fancock would say the phrase "... can my GOTY be a demo?" - to which the answer is "oh shut the fuck up"

you need to chill, dude. :lol

i seriously hope you realize that the only thing different between the ones you call "sheep" and yourself is the brand of console you jizz over.

also, i thought you were a ps3 owner? ;)
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 09, 2007, 06:56:42 PM
COCKMUNCHERS COCKGOBBLERS
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on December 09, 2007, 07:07:30 PM
btw, i dont even own a ps3. i just wanted to call dcharlie out for being such a pathetic loser. so the mods can lock this thread now.

seriously, who the fuck plays car games? get a driver's license ffs.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Vizzys on December 09, 2007, 07:08:50 PM
dcharlie snapped a long time ago

I wouldn't take everything he says to heart

but car sims are horrible
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 09, 2007, 07:15:13 PM

seriously, who the fuck plays car games? get a driver's license ffs.

True dat. car games sux.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Himu on December 09, 2007, 07:21:29 PM
btw, i dont even own a ps3. i just wanted to call dcharlie out for being such a pathetic loser. so the mods can lock this thread now.

seriously, who the fuck plays car games? get a driver's license ffs.

 :lol i like this guy
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: MCD on December 09, 2007, 07:23:41 PM
kittonwy? is that you?
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Ichirou on December 09, 2007, 08:09:02 PM
calcifer, you can lock the thread yourself, just look at the bottom of the page, on the left side.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 09, 2007, 08:10:34 PM
TURD INHALERS
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Ichirou on December 09, 2007, 08:15:56 PM
I happen to love GT, so I'm excited, but I am also not Japanese, so said excitement is tempered.

My primary reason for liking GT (and Forza) is that I am not Himu, who is a flabby suck mutant.

So far I like this post best.

calcifer, open another cool thread baiting dcharlie with the other upcoming PS3 masterpieces which will sink the 360: Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy XIII, and...uhm...

Yeah.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on December 09, 2007, 08:41:22 PM
the great thing about dcharlie is that you dont really have to do anything. just sit back and enjoy the show.

oh and i am not kittonwy :stupidfaggotsmiley

I happen to love GT, so I'm excited, but I am also not Japanese, so said excitement is tempered.

My primary reason for liking GT (and Forza) is that I am not Himu, who is a flabby suck mutant.

So far I like this post best.

calcifer, open another cool thread baiting dcharlie with the other upcoming PS3 masterpieces which will sink the 360: Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy XIII, and...uhm...

Yeah.

nah. as much as i want mgs4 and ff13 i really dont feel like paying for a ps3.

ill probably hold out and hope for 360 versions or wait until the ps3 is $200
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Ichirou on December 09, 2007, 08:43:22 PM
Well, to be honest, if I'd bought a PS3, I would be pretty pissed off too, considering the state of things.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on December 09, 2007, 08:46:01 PM
Well, to be honest, if I'd bought a PS3, I would be pretty pissed off too, considering the state of things.

yeah you cant really blame him.. but he's overreacting a little bit too much, imo.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: MCD on December 09, 2007, 08:47:07 PM
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oh and i am not kittonwy :stupidfaggotsmiley

thank god
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Ichirou on December 09, 2007, 08:54:57 PM
dcharlie: His trolling is real, but he is not.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 09, 2007, 08:56:05 PM
Well, to be honest, if I'd bought a PS3, I would be pretty pissed off too, considering the state of things.

yeah you cant really blame him.. but he's overreacting a little bit too much, imo.

I think you are gay. gay for dcharlie
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on December 09, 2007, 09:04:30 PM
Well, to be honest, if I'd bought a PS3, I would be pretty pissed off too, considering the state of things.

yeah you cant really blame him.. but he's overreacting a little bit too much, imo.

I think you are gay. gay for dcharlie

did you ever get a good lynx battery, btw?
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: demi on December 09, 2007, 09:10:17 PM
so you registered on here just to bait dcharlie? that's dedication
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on December 09, 2007, 09:15:05 PM
so you registered on here just to bait dcharlie? that's dedication

mainly because i got banned from gaf. baiting dcharlie was more like a freebie.

wasnt meant to be malicious. i am sorry if i offended you, dcharlie.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on December 09, 2007, 09:16:26 PM
Gran Turismo, like Forza, does nothing for me.  And honestly after downloading the GT5 demo thing they have on the Japanese marketplace I'm not all that blown away by the graphics either.

I just don't fucking get it.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: MCD on December 09, 2007, 09:57:53 PM
Cute couple.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 09, 2007, 11:15:44 PM
so you registered on here just to bait dcharlie? that's dedication

mainly because i got banned from gaf. baiting dcharlie was more like a freebie.

wasnt meant to be malicious. i am sorry if i offended you, dcharlie.

I too wish to be permabanned, but I need to do it in SPECTACULAR FASHION

I found the lynx battery, it was in my ma's vibrator yarrr!
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 10, 2007, 03:07:22 AM
Why would anyone pay that much for a demo?

Oh yeah, Sony fans are idiots. 

I guess Sony knows its supporters well. 
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 10, 2007, 03:08:22 AM
so you registered on here just to bait dcharlie? that's dedication

mainly because i got banned from gaf. baiting dcharlie was more like a freebie.

wasnt meant to be malicious. i am sorry if i offended you, dcharlie.

I too wish to be permabanned, but I need to do it in SPECTACULAR FASHION

I found the lynx battery, it was in my ma's vibrator yarrr!

You've been mentioning Uncharted a lot recently.  Is that part of your plan?

Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: bagofeyes on December 10, 2007, 03:14:18 AM
I just saw a real new gt-r at the nissan dealership down the street.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 10, 2007, 03:21:47 AM
European Exotics > Japanese Ricers
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: bagofeyes on December 10, 2007, 03:22:21 AM
k thanks
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: drohne on December 10, 2007, 03:31:37 AM
i originally registered on gaf to bait marty chinn
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 10, 2007, 03:38:33 AM
i originally registered on gaf to bait marty chinn

How long ago was this?  I never saw Marty on Usenet but people occasionally talked about what an ass he was. 
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: drohne on December 10, 2007, 04:08:58 AM
must have been in 1999 sometime
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 10, 2007, 04:12:15 AM

You've been mentioning Uncharted a lot recently.  Is that part of your plan?



Not anymore, I think I'm just going to vanish
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on December 10, 2007, 09:00:08 PM
it'll probably bomb like every ps3 game does.

the game looks amazing, though.
[youtube=425,350]kNUlXuiPfgk[/youtube]
:drool :drool

lyte, will you be getting this?
Two cars, including that damned GT-R, were running below the yellow line. If this was NASCAR, those two would be black flagged.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: brawndolicious on December 11, 2007, 12:01:05 AM
wait, what does that mean ferrariman?
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 11, 2007, 08:27:00 AM
:lol So no online racing on release day. You have to wait until 25 December and then download a patch. Good job, Sony!

It's like Sony is giving u a christmas present!

(http://208.109.107.74/forum/Smileys/classic/gerstmann.gif)
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: dark1x on December 11, 2007, 01:10:27 PM
Not really all that interested in this myself, but I did recently receive Forza 2 for free and tested it against the GT5P demo and I can't imagine how ANYONE could suggest that Forza 2 is the nicer looking game.  In all honesty, I didn't even think Forza looked as nice as Ridge Racer 6.  :\  It's very bland.

Still, I'm not a big fan of these games at this point, so they really only exist for graphical comparison purposes.  :P
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Kyle on December 11, 2007, 01:31:52 PM
Not really all that interested in this myself, but I did recently receive Forza 2 for free and tested it against the GT5P demo and I can't imagine how ANYONE could suggest that Forza 2 is the nicer looking game.  In all honesty, I didn't even think Forza looked as nice as Ridge Racer 6.  :\  It's very bland.

Still, I'm not a big fan of these games at this point, so they really only exist for graphical comparison purposes.  :P
sez the guy who believes ratchet-resistance are better looking games than cod4 ..
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: dark1x on December 11, 2007, 02:23:28 PM
sez the guy who believes ratchet-resistance are better looking games than cod4 ..
I take it you're a fan of low resolution textures, boxy environments, and unstable framerates then.

CoD4 is a nice enough looking game, but it's way too flawed to put it up there with the best looking games on the market.  It doesn't even begin to compare to the likes of Gears of War, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Crysis, UT3, and the like.  It feels like an enhanced Quake engine game (which is actually somewhat true).
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 11, 2007, 02:33:22 PM
Not really all that interested in this myself, but I did recently receive Forza 2 for free and tested it against the GT5P demo and I can't imagine how ANYONE could suggest that Forza 2 is the nicer looking game.  In all honesty, I didn't even think Forza looked as nice as Ridge Racer 6.  :\  It's very bland.

Still, I'm not a big fan of these games at this point, so they really only exist for graphical comparison purposes.  :P

GT looks noticeably nicer than Forza.  But technically, are Forza and GT really that far apart?  GT's graphics have always looked more "realistic" because everything is really dark and gritty.  Ironically, GT's lighting is actually less real than most racers.  I've yet to see a real world location where everything is darkly shaded in broad daylight. 
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: brawndolicious on December 11, 2007, 03:04:05 PM
well GT doesn't use normal maps I think so that could make the lighting look weirder but more realistic at some angles..  Has GT5 P improved a lot from GTHD?  I honestly thought that was a PS2 GT4 track with new crowds and car models.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Kyle on December 11, 2007, 03:07:15 PM
sez the guy who believes ratchet-resistance are better looking games than cod4 ..
I take it you're a fan of low resolution textures, boxy environments, and unstable framerates then.

CoD4 is a nice enough looking game, but it's way too flawed to put it up there with the best looking games on the market.  It doesn't even begin to compare to the likes of Gears of War, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Crysis, UT3, and the like.  It feels like an enhanced Quake engine game (which is actually somewhat true).
resistance and ratchet are next-gen games.. and Crysis looks like shit compared to them
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 11, 2007, 06:22:35 PM
Not really all that interested in this myself, but I did recently receive Forza 2 for free and tested it against the GT5P demo and I can't imagine how ANYONE could suggest that Forza 2 is the nicer looking game.  In all honesty, I didn't even think Forza looked as nice as Ridge Racer 6.  :\  It's very bland.

Still, I'm not a big fan of these games at this point, so they really only exist for graphical comparison purposes.  :P

GT looks noticeably nicer than Forza.  But technically, are Forza and GT really that far apart?  GT's graphics have always looked more "realistic" because everything is really dark and gritty.  Ironically, GT's lighting is actually less real than most racers.  I've yet to see a real world location where everything is darkly shaded in broad daylight. 

Visually, GT is pushing something like 5,000 more polys/car with twice the amount of cars at a higher resolution. In terms of physics and stuff, I don't think PD has been as upfront, so I can't really compare, but Forza did calculations at some absurd rate.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Kyle on December 11, 2007, 06:33:13 PM
Not really all that interested in this myself, but I did recently receive Forza 2 for free and tested it against the GT5P demo and I can't imagine how ANYONE could suggest that Forza 2 is the nicer looking game.  In all honesty, I didn't even think Forza looked as nice as Ridge Racer 6.  :\  It's very bland.

Still, I'm not a big fan of these games at this point, so they really only exist for graphical comparison purposes.  :P

GT looks noticeably nicer than Forza.  But technically, are Forza and GT really that far apart?  GT's graphics have always looked more "realistic" because everything is really dark and gritty.  Ironically, GT's lighting is actually less real than most racers.  I've yet to see a real world location where everything is darkly shaded in broad daylight. 

Visually, GT is pushing something like 5,000 more polys/car with twice the amount of cars at a higher resolution. In terms of physics and stuff, I don't think PD has been as upfront, so I can't really compare, but Forza did calculations at some absurd rate.
is that you ynos yrros?
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 11, 2007, 06:59:03 PM
Not really all that interested in this myself, but I did recently receive Forza 2 for free and tested it against the GT5P demo and I can't imagine how ANYONE could suggest that Forza 2 is the nicer looking game.  In all honesty, I didn't even think Forza looked as nice as Ridge Racer 6.  :\  It's very bland.

Still, I'm not a big fan of these games at this point, so they really only exist for graphical comparison purposes.  :P

GT looks noticeably nicer than Forza.  But technically, are Forza and GT really that far apart?  GT's graphics have always looked more "realistic" because everything is really dark and gritty.  Ironically, GT's lighting is actually less real than most racers.  I've yet to see a real world location where everything is darkly shaded in broad daylight. 

Visually, GT is pushing something like 5,000 more polys/car with twice the amount of cars at a higher resolution. In terms of physics and stuff, I don't think PD has been as upfront, so I can't really compare, but Forza did calculations at some absurd rate.
is that you ynos yrros?
you are fucking annoying
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: demi on December 11, 2007, 07:00:33 PM
this game is gheyyyyyyyy come post in the awesome Arkadian Warriors thread

(cause it's awesome)
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: LJ11 on December 11, 2007, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: y2kev

Visually, GT is pushing something like 5,000 more polys/car with twice the amount of cars at a higher resolution. In terms of physics and stuff, I don't think PD has been as upfront, so I can't really compare, but Forza did calculations at some absurd rate.

I think Forza was pushing 360 calculations per second, remember Agent Icebeezy mentioning it time and time again.  No idea why this guy Kyle is giving you shit considering the amount of time you put into F2, you were all over that game when it released.  You played with Joates as well, who was one of the best players in the entire Forza community.  That kid stinks at just about every 360 shooter, but you put a racer in his hands and my god.  It's not even fair.  I kept declining his invites to avoid the embarrassment. 

Edit: Looking forward to some impressions.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: MCD on December 11, 2007, 07:26:39 PM
Joates is crazy.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 11, 2007, 07:27:53 PM
Joates is absolutely godlike. On my very best races I'd sniff his tail.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: MCD on December 11, 2007, 07:38:24 PM
That's why he is crazy.

and about Forza/GT, Forza is the better game (physics, damage, online...etc) but PD graphical engine is superior.

Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 11, 2007, 07:50:03 PM
Not really all that interested in this myself, but I did recently receive Forza 2 for free and tested it against the GT5P demo and I can't imagine how ANYONE could suggest that Forza 2 is the nicer looking game.  In all honesty, I didn't even think Forza looked as nice as Ridge Racer 6.  :\  It's very bland.

Still, I'm not a big fan of these games at this point, so they really only exist for graphical comparison purposes.  :P

GT looks noticeably nicer than Forza.  But technically, are Forza and GT really that far apart?  GT's graphics have always looked more "realistic" because everything is really dark and gritty.  Ironically, GT's lighting is actually less real than most racers.  I've yet to see a real world location where everything is darkly shaded in broad daylight. 

Visually, GT is pushing something like 5,000 more polys/car with twice the amount of cars at a higher resolution. In terms of physics and stuff, I don't think PD has been as upfront, so I can't really compare, but Forza did calculations at some absurd rate.

In the selection menus, the GT cars look far superior, but in game, it's a closer call.  I'm leery to trust PD's numbers because they add up to about 200 Million polys/sec which is impossible even for the most advanced PC game.  Polys/sec have always been the hardest visual aspect to judge unless the games are wide apart, but in this case, they're not.  Still, GT clearly has the edge in car modeling.  Even on the PS1/PS2, PD was able to make better looking cars than most games running on more powerful hardware. 
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: hyp on December 11, 2007, 08:02:40 PM
on a technical level, if GT5 ships without screen tearing (which the demo had lots of), i'll give it credit for being the better looking game.  if not, forza 2 wins just for rocking a solid 60fps without hiccups.  i still think rr6 is the best racer on 360 though.  :P
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 11, 2007, 08:18:06 PM
i think what i find most confusing about this is the fact that (again) a sony first party game is shipping with online missing.

This isn't the first time for the region, and i doubt it'll be the last at this rate.

Motorstorm - no online for 5 months
Mingol - most of the online modes missing
GT5P - no online for first two weeks (i want to see how this pans out - i won't be surprised if the online doesn't make it until next year)

Seriously - Polyphony have to have been working on this since a good year or so before the launch (i know various versions/restarts happened, but come now... ) . I'm guessing they just don't have the online nouse or something.



I don't know what's up with Motorstorm (probably just weren't finished), but it is weird how the other two studios screwed that up.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: LJ11 on December 11, 2007, 08:18:32 PM
Joates really is crazy though.  Ask CajoleJuice what it's like to play CoD4 with him.  He drives people nuts.  Last night he got some guy so riled up I could hear him throwing shit. 
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 11, 2007, 08:26:24 PM
Joates really is crazy though.  Ask CajoleJuice what it's like to play CoD4 with him.  He drives people nuts.  Last night he got some guy so riled up I could hear him throwing shit. 
:lol He used to chomp tostitos into the mic. it was hilarious. and the shit he would say to strangers that wandered into the "gaf" room...he was absolutely hilarious.

I remember when like xxxSephirothxxx entered the room and he tore into him and asked him what his gamefaqs account was  :lol :lol
 
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: LJ11 on December 11, 2007, 08:30:40 PM
He eats pretzels now, and asks random people "which celebrity vage (vagina) they would pound?" 
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: brawndolicious on December 12, 2007, 05:38:19 AM
I think Forza was pushing 360 calculations per second, remember Agent Icebeezy mentioning it time and time again.  No idea why this guy Kyle is giving you shit considering the amount of time you put into F2, you were all over that game when it released.  You played with Joates as well, who was one of the best players in the entire Forza community.  That kid stinks at just about every 360 shooter, but you put a racer in his hands and my god.  It's not even fair.  I kept declining his invites to avoid the embarrassment. 
Edit: Looking forward to some impressions.
yeah I think it was something like 100,000-400,000 physics calculations possible at a time depending on what you were doing and the physics would be recalculated 360 times a second.  it was so that when you go on the runway on seguna lena (I think that's how you spell it) at 180 mph, you can feel every fucking bump on your controller.  GT is known for having a really distinct feel with those videogame steering wheels among the fans so I doubt they'll overhaul the physics from the PS2 version and make it completely realistic.  It'll be improved (especially in the sim mode) but it has to keep the same general feel and I heard from fans of GT that it feels a lot like a real car when using the steering wheel.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Valcrist on December 12, 2007, 05:41:25 AM
Looks like Sony may have been touching stuff up a bit...


I don't think anyone actually thinks they look like that ingame.  Not even gaffots do.  That said, it actually looks pretty nice.  I thought the demo track environment sucked.  I really look forward to seeing this london track.  Not sure if I want to spend money for the demo...but GT5 probably isn't coming out for another year...
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: demi on December 12, 2007, 06:46:14 AM
that picture looks pretty good, groo, even for an off-center blurry chintzy camera shot
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Kyle on December 12, 2007, 08:52:42 AM
dcharlie, i love racing games.. and i love GT series.. is it worth it to buy a PS3 just for GT5P ?  :-\ this game looks good
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Kyle on December 12, 2007, 09:00:09 AM
 :-\ then i should wait for the full GT5 version to come out and get a PS3?
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Kyle on December 12, 2007, 09:12:06 AM
you should make as much noise as you can to get Polyphony to fix the issues this game obviously has, rally everyone you know to bitch about it until they make a game worthy of the GT moniker that actually takes the game into new realms and THEN and only then should you think about getting a PS3 IF they deliver.


as i heard.. GT5 will come out late 2008.. theoretically, they should have much time to fix GT5P problems..

I'll wait for it and see if it's worth it to buy a PS3 for GT5 or not.. based on your Impressions about it of course  8)
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Kyle on December 12, 2007, 09:22:35 AM
yeah.. it's pretty expensive for a demo  :-\
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 12, 2007, 09:43:06 AM
I really want to play this but I have no means of getting it. I need to "share" off some japagaffer.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 12, 2007, 11:09:11 AM
Quote
as i heard.. GT5 will come out late 2008.. theoretically, they should have much time to fix GT5P problems..

i think right now what i am most bummed with is that this is massively over priced at $50.
It really is quite the insult for quite how bare bones things are.

I'm 99% sure all the issues will be fixed for GT5 (i'd go for early 2009 myself) , but i am honestly shocked at how uninspired it all is. The previous Prologue left me gagging for more, but this one just feels like an insult.

1980 yen max was more appropriate.


C'mon now, you've had 5,000 yen's worth of fun with it already! I haven't seen you this excited since granny caught her tit in the mangle (as it were)
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: dark1x on December 12, 2007, 11:34:40 AM
sez the guy who believes ratchet-resistance are better looking games than cod4 ..
I take it you're a fan of low resolution textures, boxy environments, and unstable framerates then.

CoD4 is a nice enough looking game, but it's way too flawed to put it up there with the best looking games on the market.  It doesn't even begin to compare to the likes of Gears of War, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Crysis, UT3, and the like.  It feels like an enhanced Quake engine game (which is actually somewhat true).
resistance and ratchet are next-gen games.. and Crysis looks like shit compared to them

Yeah, you're kind of an idiot.

Why would you make such a statement?  I feel that Crysis is currently the most impressive game on the market.  I've never once made a claim that Resistance and Ratchet are in the same league.  All three look better than CoD4, though.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Kyle on December 12, 2007, 11:40:55 AM
ratchet and resistance looks better than cod4.. dark1x gtfo of my world :-\
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: MCD on December 12, 2007, 11:44:49 AM
They all look like shit, how about that?
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 12, 2007, 11:51:38 AM
A GT5 demo is better than all of Forza 2!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Just like Mario 64's ghost house was better than all of Resident Evil
[close]
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2007, 12:08:13 PM
gran tusismo sucks
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: MCD on December 12, 2007, 12:09:32 PM
car games sucks

Agreed!
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2007, 12:23:50 PM
burnout owns outrun owns f-zero gx owns

there are exceptions but yes.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: T234 on December 12, 2007, 12:25:21 PM
Gotham owns, what the fuck is y'alls problem.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2007, 12:26:14 PM
daytona usa owns
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: MCD on December 12, 2007, 12:27:41 PM
I CAN'T HEAR YOU GUYS
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2007, 12:29:35 PM
I CAN'T HEAR YOU GRAN TURISMO SUX LALALALAL

I am laughing at anyone who paid 40 dollars for a demo LAFFO
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: T234 on December 12, 2007, 12:30:56 PM
40 bux? Ain't it 50,000yen, ~$50 bux?
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 12, 2007, 12:44:48 PM
daytona usa owns

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/206/457666803_bd995dd571.jpg)

DAYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEETONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

(Yes that is actually him)
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: T234 on December 12, 2007, 12:55:55 PM
Is that who I think it is?
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 12, 2007, 01:01:53 PM
Is that who I think it is?

Yes it is. He showed up to our Thursday night drinking party with some other dudes from Sega and I nearly crapped my pants. In that shot he is singing GAME OVER YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I swear to god I'm not making this up either.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: T234 on December 12, 2007, 01:19:00 PM
OMG HOLY SHIT IF THAT EVER HAPPENED TO ME OMG I'D FUCKING HAVE A HEART ATTACK THE ONLY GAMES INDUSTRY PERSON I'VE EVER TALKED TO OVER THE PHONE OR IN PERSON WAS SHOE AND THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST EMBARRASSING CHAPTER OF MY COLLEGE CAREER GETTING DENIED TO INTERVIEW A GUY FROM EGM FOR FUCKS SAKE
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Himu on December 12, 2007, 03:02:11 PM
lol daytona usa rox

even more proof
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: hyp on December 12, 2007, 03:09:13 PM
Looks like Sony may have been touching stuff up a bit...

Official shot:
(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6103/p02ata5.jpg)

In-game:
(http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/4773/iup518930wy4.jpg)

 :o the killzone 2 guys are off the hook.  this is on some next level shit.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: brawndolicious on December 12, 2007, 03:38:38 PM
I posted some of DCharlies impressions on OA and TJHooker is saying that he's not a real Londoner and that he doesn't really know what London looks like and that his family only goes to London when they get lucky and go on holiday and that today charlie lives in Japan to live out his otaku fantasies.  I'm guess I'm just saying I'm sorry for posting those there since I really didn't think Hooker was that insane.

link:
http://opa-ages.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3645&st=30&gopid=53274&#entry53274
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: brawndolicious on December 12, 2007, 06:09:29 PM
ah, well tjhooker is just a troll.  I think he went insane at that moment in time though.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: brawndolicious on December 12, 2007, 06:25:49 PM
what...why?  TJ just trolls everything.  he's like somethings alternate account.  he insults US and Microsoft.  that's basically it.  I specifically said that you're impressions are probably unbiased at least on the technical details since you say stuff like it going down to 30 fps or tearing a lot.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: drohne on December 12, 2007, 10:15:13 PM
i seriously doubt that the in-car view drops as far as 30fps -- actually you're suggesting that it drops below 30fps. it was 60 w/tearing in the demo. drops to 30 would be plausible with v-sync enabled -- but you're probably just seeing relatively small drops from 60 when it tears.

i might buy this -- i think i've got 2600 psn points sitting in my japanese account, so that'll soften the blow
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: drohne on December 13, 2007, 12:31:28 AM
i don't see why the cockpit view would more than double the rendering load -- if it's something to do with the london track, then the framerate should suffer in other views as well. tearing can certainly make framerate seem much lower than it is. in any case i just bought a ¥3000 card from ncs, so i guess i'll see tomorrow :'(
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2007, 02:03:07 AM
i didn't mean i'd stop for TJH, there's another poster or two in there who said they've stopped posting/coming and , yeah, it's getting a little old on myside too.

Somehow I doubt that Jotaro would be missed.

 :lol
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2007, 02:07:44 AM
Gotta give props to OA.  They've got some entertaining people.
 
If I were an Xfag, I'd be mad impressed by DC Charlie.. being an Xfag isn't just a side hobby to him, it's his way of life. He takes it to a whole nother level never before seen. He's like an Xfag Emperor.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2007, 02:21:32 AM
Groo's shot looked good but it had exactly the issue that I predicted, which was that everything's too dark in GT5.  The excessive shadowing is even more obvious if you compare the real-time shot to the touched up shot.  I wish PD would stop using this dark shadows technique to make things look more real. 
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 13, 2007, 02:43:12 AM
Has there been any confirmation if the physics model is better than Forza 2's? F2 is the first racing game I play with assists off and manual transmission because it just feels so f'ing dead on. I tried playing the GT HD demo after F2 and it felt like I was driving a brick.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on December 13, 2007, 02:54:04 AM
xfag SPACE emperor

As far as the physics model, what I am planning on doing to test them is to pick the same car with the same tuning settings and do a few laps on Suzuka....but that would require Sony to A) release the game here and B) add tuning to GT5P. I can't guarantee GT5P's default tune is the same in Forza's.

Again, PD has said very little about the game's actual driving mechanics...but they have no interface with the community like T10 did, so I guess that's not altogether (lol like the andrews dude lolol) surprising.

I was pretty impressed with the Professional setting in Prologue Demo, but it's such a small taste that you can't really say anything conclusively.
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2007, 02:59:03 AM
I don't know how the hell you people know how to tune anything.  They don't teach you in the manual or even in the strategy guide.  I wish there was a setting for automatic tuning.  Trying to be a car mechanic in a racing game is not fun at all, imo. 
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: drohne on December 13, 2007, 03:03:05 AM
marvelharvey at gaf thinks gt5p has a better driving model than forza 2. and he races actual cars or something. not that i can tell the difference. the whole forza vs gt thing cracks me up -- you get these totally ignorant physics analyses from people who may as well just say 'i like xbox' or 'i on the other hand like playstation.' THEY'RE THE SAME FUCKING GAME
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Smooth Groove on December 13, 2007, 03:08:10 AM
Those "realistics" racing sims still seem pretty fake to me.  Some of the cars I've driven IRL were able to pull off much tougher curves than they could in games.  Making a Rt angle turn at 60 miles/hr really isn't hard as GT makes it appear to be. 
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 13, 2007, 03:12:51 AM
Marvelharvey knows his stuff, for sure. One of the most fun times i had with Forza 2 was with the hot laps. He critiqued my laps for a few of them, and gave me detailed breakdowns of braking points, the line I was using etc. I took massive chunks of my times thanks to that, though I never got close to his :bow. If he says GT5 is better, I'm prepared to believe it.

About the physics: I have no idea technically what's going on under the hood with Forza but it feels more convincing than anything else I've played (disclaimer: haven't played any of the beardy PC stuff). What a lot of console racer fans don't get is that driving in Forza is intuitive, not cerebral. You can feel the car, feel how it contacts the track and feel when it loses contact. You don't need to know what pressure your tires are at or how hot they are to know when you're going to lose traction on a hairpin.

DC - if you want to check it out in 1080p, you can always bring yer PS3 over to my place one of these days!
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: drohne on December 13, 2007, 03:38:06 PM
slowest download ever

the online patch will probably go up by the time this finishes  :'(
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: calcifer on March 16, 2008, 04:46:00 PM
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5554/dsc05253bg9.jpg)

year of bitter dcharlie tears  :-\
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: y2kev on March 16, 2008, 09:35:12 PM
omg that shot

omg

omg you guys
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 16, 2008, 09:44:02 PM
If dcharlie tones it down calcifer won't have a reason to exist. Go for it.

Those "realistics" racing sims still seem pretty fake to me.  Some of the cars I've driven IRL were able to pull off much tougher curves than they could in games.  Making a Rt angle turn at 60 miles/hr really isn't hard as GT makes it appear to be. 

qft
Title: Re: GT5 demo++ thread/dcharlie suicide watch
Post by: bork on March 16, 2008, 09:46:56 PM
Calcifier is now perma-banned.  Apparently he was Powerslave's joke account.  This thread is over...make a new GT5 demo thread if you feel the need to.