They're good movies and all, but it's all built on the same dual appeal of vicariously enjoying the characters' wealth and status, then seeing hubris and cocaine tear it all down.
Scarface *is* a classic movie.
Road to Perdition fucking ruled.
I tend to enjoy the less glamorous Gangster films more. Road to Perdition being my favorite gangster flick.yeah. and I agree with mandark that scorsese ones are just tabloids. since criminals are by definition anti-social and usually sociopaths, you should show try to show something else that the typical person does not expect. not these carbon copies in scorsese's movies.
Himuro walking up to a Taco Bell drive in window, stoned out of his mind, just thinking of SCARFACE as the freaked out chick in the window hands him a greasy gordita.
Himuro walking up to a Taco Bell drive in window, stoned out of his mind, just thinking of SCARFACE as the freaked out chick in the window hands him a greasy gordita.
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Wonderland was great, Val Kilmer was awesome in it; too bad nobody knows about that movie.yeah, I saw it on IFC and I was amazed at how awesome it was but I never heard about it before. It handled the flashback storytelling really well.
Stone said that? :lolYes.
I met Oliver Stone at a party. It was me, Russell Simmons and Stan Lathan. It was Paula Abdul’s platinum party on Hacienda Boulevard. Eddie Murphy was there. I said, “Oliver Stone’s my hero,” so I went over to him, but he was tied up. I said, “Man, my name is Barry Michael Cooper.” This was after NJC had come out. “I wrote the movie.” He said, “Okay” and shook my hand. I said, “Man, I love your movie Wall Street. That’s how I learned to write. That was my tool and my instruction book for writing NJC.” He said to me, “Okay, thank you very much. I bet you like Scarface, too — all distinguished black fellows like Scarface.” And he stumbled off.
Meh I'm not too interested in hearing what Mr. Denzel "aka angry black man with a gun in all his movies" Washington has to say about stereotypesEh he isnt the first black guy in film to publicly scold the black community for worshiping the rather weak Scarface. I am pretty sure Morgan Freeman did before as well iirc.
What did you think, overall, though? Did it seem problematic? Most of the reviews seem to say something along the lines of good not great, and I am wondering if Scott can do his majick.
American Gangster! The film that combines the "stodgy lawman dogs vivacious criminal" dynamic of Catch Me If You Can with the "he was a hard, violent man, but also cared deeply about shit" frisson of a VH1 documentary on Tupac!
lol Morgan Freeman shouldn't open his mouth. He is the same fucking character in all his movies.the magical negro?
The buzz around AG made it sound like a Tupac album. He's violent! But he cares about his family! He's a criminal! But he gives back to the community!
It would still have a pretty substancial cult following. It does have some pretty funny dialouge, a lot of violence, Al Pacino, an Oliver Stone script, and De Palma direction. I would suspect that even more people would enjoy it for what it is -- a dumb gangster movie with Al Pacino, silly dialouge and a lot of over-the-top violence -- if it weren't for the rapper idolization.It isn't a good stone script. Stone himself has said the script was not good.
It's from an article in a magazine called Stop Smiling. It was written by some screen writer for the magazine:QuoteI met Oliver Stone at a party. It was me, Russell Simmons and Stan Lathan. It was Paula Abdul’s platinum party on Hacienda Boulevard. Eddie Murphy was there. I said, “Oliver Stone’s my hero,” so I went over to him, but he was tied up. I said, “Man, my name is Barry Michael Cooper.” This was after NJC had come out. “I wrote the movie.” He said, “Okay” and shook my hand. I said, “Man, I love your movie Wall Street. That’s how I learned to write. That was my tool and my instruction book for writing NJC.” He said to me, “Okay, thank you very much. I bet you like Scarface, too — all distinguished black fellows like Scarface.” And he stumbled off.
It would still have a pretty substantial cult following. It does have some pretty funny dialouge, a lot of violence, Al Pacino, an Oliver Stone script, and De Palma direction. I would suspect that even more people would enjoy it for what it is -- a dumb gangster movie with Al Pacino, silly dialouge and a lot of over-the-top violence -- if it weren't for the rapper idolization.It isn't a good stone script. Stone himself has said the script was not good.
I just watched American Gangster recently and it was horribly mediocre.
Denzel's character really wasn't likable for most of the movie and neither was Russell Crowe's. The film struggles to find an identity and bounces back and forth until the two main characters collide into each other. Then they have a cup of coffee, bring down a corrupt police force and have a few laughs. It really was not worth my time. A low point for Ridley Scott.