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Title: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 16, 2008, 11:05:05 PM
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k36/SlinkyT82/tomcruiselaugh.gif)

All Tom Cruise, all the time! (http://gawker.com/345563/tom-cruise-uncut-the-freedom-medal-award-ceremony)
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: TVC15 on January 16, 2008, 11:07:27 PM
Would you let Tom stick it in your ass for a million dollars, Willco?  You'd have to keep it secret, of course.
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 16, 2008, 11:07:57 PM
No homo
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 16, 2008, 11:23:22 PM
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/mrangryface_bucket/Memes%20n%20Things/eviltom.gif)
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: border on January 16, 2008, 11:39:33 PM
Where is the crazy interview that spawned this already-driven-into-the-ground gif meme?
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 16, 2008, 11:41:38 PM
Gawker is fighting the good fight to keep it hosted. (http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress)

Their response to CSI's cease and decist order:

(http://gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/01/Picture%2016.jpg)

:lol

Take that, Scientology!
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 16, 2008, 11:48:55 PM
I'd pretty much let anyone stick it in my ass for a million dollars

i think i could buy a way to burn that from my memory
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: border on January 16, 2008, 11:55:45 PM
Ehhhh, that is no more scary or funny than a late night Tony Robbins infomercial.

What's an SP?
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 17, 2008, 12:00:06 AM
(http://www.kantor.com/blog/images/8be36b7318e9_9C6F/supes2.jpg)
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: Barry Egan on January 17, 2008, 12:02:37 AM
Ehhhh, that is no more scary or funny than a late night Tony Robbins infomercial.

What's an SP?

Suppressive Person (speaks negatively of L. Ron)
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: border on January 17, 2008, 12:03:43 AM
Ohhh, I thought he was talking about Synthesizer Patel!
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 17, 2008, 12:05:27 AM
Um,why did Synthesizer Patel post that Superman comic?

Oh nevermind I got it lol.
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: sky on January 17, 2008, 01:25:46 AM
(http://gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/01/Picture%2016.jpg)

Weeeellp, that about wraps it up for Gaby Darbyshire.
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 17, 2008, 01:30:31 AM
She'll be dead by sundown!
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 17, 2008, 01:53:05 AM
Mommy, why is that man like that?
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2008, 02:38:31 AM
Thing is, it's kind of cohesive for the first couple of minutes. But just in terms of self-motivation and stuff.

It seems to me like some guy in charge of marketing thought "Tom Cruise is a popular guy, let's get him on board to further the religion." For all we know, Tom may be acting ALL of this.

The whole video is pretty great, but my vote for the best part goes to the total non sequitor ending, with the narrator saying like "Tom Cruise has brought dsjdhnfgjsdhgjsh technology to over 1.08 billion people!" as if he cured cancer or aids or something.  The fact that the voice is in Congratulatory Announcer mode along with the completely puzzling statement makes it OMG bizarre.
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: Barry Egan on January 17, 2008, 09:05:56 AM
Tom Cruise's last statement about how "there's nothing part of the way for [him]" with the nervous laughter, made me think he was on the verge of a self-realization that would cause mental breakdown right on camera. 
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: Powerslave on January 17, 2008, 09:12:12 AM
(http://i13.tinypic.com/6urawrq.gif)
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: T-Short on January 17, 2008, 09:24:28 AM
[youtube=425,350]1-0qRwZcsiE[/youtube]

OMG @ 2:12

 :rofl  :rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: Eric P on January 17, 2008, 10:24:17 AM
sounds like the voice actor for harvey birdman is the narrator
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 10:35:04 AM
Guys Scientology is lame but Tom Cruise is someone to be respected - if anything just because he has done better than all of us.

Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: Barry Egan on January 17, 2008, 10:41:19 AM
Guys Scientology is lame but Tom Cruise is someone to be respected - if anything just because he has done better than all of us.



 ::)
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 10:45:34 AM
I say let the guy do what he wants. Being a nobody freak in scientology is different from being a celebrity who they ass kiss total for endorsements.

But hey I understand - im not nearly as successful as Tom and I already have a hater fan club on the web and in real life.

Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 17, 2008, 11:29:57 AM
Guys Scientology is lame but Tom Cruise is someone to be respected - if anything just because he has done better than all of us.



 ::)

A bigger :rolleyes is needed.
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: Tauntaun on January 17, 2008, 12:03:53 PM
HIP HIP   HOOORAAAAYY! 

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 01:30:48 PM
Willco, where can I download the video instead of just streaming it? I must keep it.
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 17, 2008, 01:42:17 PM
I have a copy of it in FLV.  I'm tempted to upload it on evilbore, but I don't want to be murdered.
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 17, 2008, 01:50:18 PM
Holy crap - Gawker posts more! (http://gawker.com/345563/tom-cruise-uncut-the-freedom-medal-award-ceremony)
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 17, 2008, 01:51:04 PM
Quote
Attached, a couple clips from the ceremony honoring Tom Cruise's official Freedom Medal Of Valor (for Achievement in the Field of Excellence).


 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 01:51:50 PM
rapidshare
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 17, 2008, 01:54:29 PM
WOW. WOW. WOW.

The 9/11 stuff is amazing.

"THE EPA SAID THE AIR WAS CLEAN OF COURSE THAT WAS A LIE SO I SAVED THEM WITH HUBBARD TECH!"
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists?"
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 17, 2008, 01:55:40 PM
Tom Cruise got Paxil banned too?  Wow.  Tom Cruise really could be Scientology's No. 2!
Title: Re: "Tom, do you think anyone else can help car crash victims but Scientologists
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on January 17, 2008, 02:00:07 PM
Is this bigger than when scientology tried to sue YTMND?
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 17, 2008, 02:14:38 PM
(http://www.evilbore.com/images/tomcruiselol.jpg)
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 17, 2008, 02:25:04 PM
Oh snap! Where's the full hour long version? I want to see the whole thing.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Tauntaun on January 17, 2008, 02:26:31 PM
(http://www.evilbore.com/images/tomcruiselol.jpg)

 :lol

And who has an awards ceremony for their religion.  :lol
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 17, 2008, 02:31:15 PM
I'm sure others have awards too, but this is nuts.

How does a guy like Tom Cruise get sucked into this whole thing?
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 02:32:54 PM
While Paxil and Psychology are worthless for the most part - some of the other stuff goes too far........like everyone being so in love with Tommy in  this thread.

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on January 17, 2008, 02:38:47 PM
Days of Thunder, guys.  :-*
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Robo on January 17, 2008, 02:41:12 PM
 :drudge TOM CRUISE IS A SCIENTOLOGIST :drudge
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Tauntaun on January 17, 2008, 02:43:44 PM
:drudge :drudge   

IF TOM CRUISE HAD BEEN IN CHARGE 9/11 WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED!

:drudge :drudge

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Powerslave on January 17, 2008, 02:44:27 PM
"too soon man, too soon"
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Tauntaun on January 17, 2008, 02:57:05 PM
"too soon man, too soon"

oh, my bad  :shh  too many SP's around to hear da truffff
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Powerslave on January 17, 2008, 03:11:46 PM
I made that do not want picture you wanted ya bitch
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: T-Short on January 17, 2008, 04:00:00 PM
(http://www.evilbore.com/images/tomcruiselol.jpg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry:_An_Industry_of_Death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry:_An_Industry_of_Death)

 :dur :dur :dur
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 04:01:05 PM
Psychiatry blos......its as bad as posting your problems on the web ;)

Psychotropics are for girly men, pill poppers and drug addicts.

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 04:36:18 PM
"Psychiatry blows" doesn't even make any fucking sense. It's a broad field. Even saying "psychotropic drugs blow" is too broad a brush.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 17, 2008, 04:38:04 PM
There's a difference in saying that psyciatry hasn't helped you and you find the field to be irrelevant to you, and saying that PSYCHIATRY MURDERS PEOPLE AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HOLOCAUST.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2008, 04:45:02 PM
There's a difference in saying that psyciatry hasn't helped you and you find the field to be irrelevant to you, and saying that PSYCHIATRY MURDERS PEOPLE AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HOLOCAUST.

Psychiatry *did* murder Hemmingway.

Quote
Hemingway himself blamed the ECT treatments for "putting him out of business" by destroying his memory; some medical and scholarly opinion has been receptive to this view, although others, including one of the physicians who prescribed the electroshock regimen, dispute that opinion.

And Abercrombie and Fitch was an accomplice:

Quote
Hemingway is believed to have purchased the weapon he used to commit suicide at Abercrombie & Fitch, which was then an elite excursion goods retailer and firearm supplier.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 04:45:50 PM
srsly

I love how the first thing they do when they hook you up to the e-meter shit is ask you about your childhood and negative relationships.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 04:55:46 PM
^^ An auditing session isnt a therapy session....its purpose is to remove BTs or Body Thetans from the outside of your biological organism.

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 04:57:06 PM
I understand its stated purpose.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: drew on January 17, 2008, 04:58:37 PM
Psychotropics are for girly men, pill poppers and drug addicts.

[youtube=425,350]uT2hzK_I-qo[/youtube]

Better living through chemistry!  Booya!

I'll defend anti-anxiety meds to the death.  I'll just assume you meant anti depressants, I wouldn't touch those with a ten foot pole.  Bad stuff.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Tauntaun on January 17, 2008, 05:03:49 PM
I made that do not want picture you wanted ya bitch

 :-[
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:04:25 PM
I agree that tranqs and anti depressants are two different things.

Different universes actually.

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2008, 05:06:27 PM
I agree with abrader.  The world would be a much more interesting place if we took lithium away from bipolar people.  Well, more specifically, it would be more interesting for a bit, then it would be really boring, and then more interesting again and boring again and OMG FUCK INTGEER OH FUCK KILL ME PLEASEHjkauihwjkrenmfkesjmkmjngksjngpsw
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:07:43 PM
Or people could just take control of their own minds and stop creating industries for these $$ grubbers...

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2008, 05:08:42 PM
Yes, bipoar people just need to MAN UP except for the times when they need to MAN DOWN and then they need to OM FUCK SMHAHLOhasflk halkff KILLMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:10:05 PM
I want to be clear that my disdain for chemical based therapy does not in any way mean I endorse or support the Scientology organization.

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 05:11:19 PM
I want to be clear that my disdain for chemical based therapy does not in any way mean I endorse or support the Scientology organization.



The Scientology organization is about more than hating psychiatry and drugs.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2008, 05:11:24 PM
I mean, antipsychotics?  Who needs them, right?  We should let irrational people be as irrational as they want to be.  Surely that would not be a hazard to the public at large.  
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:12:56 PM
I want to be clear that my disdain for chemical based therapy does not in any way mean I endorse or support the Scientology organization.



The Scientology organization is about more than hating psychiatry and drugs.

LOL - I did onsite research back in 95-96 at FLAGG

I got it all figured out!

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:13:28 PM
I mean, antipsychotics?  Who needs them, right?  We should let irrational people be as irrational as they want to be.  Surely that would not be a hazard to the public at large.  

Thats what tranqs and firing squads are for!

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 17, 2008, 05:13:46 PM
Scientology thinks basic therapy is evil too, even though that's essentially what they implement.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 05:14:09 PM
I want to be clear that my disdain for chemical based therapy does not in any way mean I endorse or support the Scientology organization.



The Scientology organization is about more than hating psychiatry and drugs.

LOL - I did onsite research back in 95-96 at FLAGG

I got it all figured out!



I didn't think you were confused  :P

Scientology thinks basic therapy is evil too, even though that's essentially what they implement.

NO NO ITS ABOUT REMOVING THETANS
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:14:48 PM
have you guys seen the outfits they wear at Flagg?

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2008, 05:14:55 PM
If you're having debilitating delusions and hallucinations, it's YOUR FAULT for being a FUCKING PUSSY.  Of course people that are outside of the reach of reason still maintain the capacity to drive their brain like a fine european sports car.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 05:16:44 PM
have you guys seen the outfits they wear at Flagg?



Have you seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion? C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate?
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:17:09 PM
People only lose the power when they convince themselves they dont have it - and then some do truly have their wires crossed.....and thats what tranqs and firing squads are for.....or the classic frontal lobe lobotomy.

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:17:24 PM
have you guys seen the outfits they wear at Flagg?



Have you seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion? C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate?

<3

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2008, 05:19:11 PM
If my son was one of them queer schizophrenics, I would make him put on a football helmet and just kick him in the head repeatedly. After that, I am sure he will be A-OK!  It's not like there's anything legitimately wrong with him.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:22:08 PM
If my son was one of them queer schizophrenics, I would make him put on a football helmet and just kick him in the head repeatedly. After that, I am sure he will be A-OK!  It's not like there's anything legitimately wrong with him.

I honestly believe that our society has let people slime themselves into the most helpless positions imaginable all because they are lazy.

I am not speaking for every case - but many times I have seen doctors hand down diagnoses simply because they dont know what else to do - and then we all pay for it when the person is considered to be disabled and gets disability benefits.


Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:22:37 PM
Also I dont think sexual preferences have any thing to do with behavioral disorders.

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2008, 05:23:27 PM
Yeah, I know TONS of people that pretend to be crazy just so they can live off that fantastic homeless meal ticket!  It's such an easy life.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:26:33 PM
Yeah, I know TONS of people that pretend to be crazy just so they can live off that fantastic homeless meal ticket!  It's such an easy life.

No but from my club days I have seen a few leftovers who were just alcoholics get schitzo effective diagnoses and then collect their $1,000 to $2,000 per month to party while they live at home with their 50 yr old parents.

When I was a social science student I interned with a few private practice doctors too - but I cant really go into all of that..


Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2008, 05:26:58 PM
If my son was one of them queer schizophrenics, I would make him put on a football helmet and just kick him in the head repeatedly. After that, I am sure he will be A-OK!  It's not like there's anything legitimately wrong with him.

I honestly believe that our society has let people slime themselves into the most helpless positions imaginable all because they are lazy.

I am not speaking for every case - but many times I have seen doctors hand down diagnoses\simply because they dont know what else to do - and then we all pay for it when the person is considered to be disabled and gets disability benefits.


Do you peek through the window or just bug their office?

edit: i c

Shouldn't we be calling for an end to shitty doctors of all backgrounds instead of condemning an entire field of expertise that tons of people make us of day to day without even realizing it?
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 17, 2008, 05:29:21 PM
xanax rules
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2008, 05:29:39 PM
Yeah, I know TONS of people that pretend to be crazy just so they can live off that fantastic homeless meal ticket!  It's such an easy life.

No but from my club days I have seen a few leftovers who were just alcoholics get schitzo effective diagnoses and then collect their $1,000 to $2,000 per month to party while they live at home with their 50 yr old parents.

When I was a social science student I interned with a few private practice doctors too - but I cant really go into all of that..

Then your issue is with certain individuals, not the science.  And Paxil helps some people.  If it helps people get through, what's the harm?  It's not for me, but I know as an adult that's very very busy, I very frequently DO NOT HAVE THE TIME to properly deal with issues, so a quick fix would be preferabe.  I am sure there are many many more people in the exact same boat.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 17, 2008, 05:33:44 PM
I have my reasons - but I also agree with your (the posters here) views.

Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 17, 2008, 06:03:07 PM
PSYCHOLOGY WILL BE THE DEATH OF YOU!
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 17, 2008, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: abrader
Or people could just take control of their own minds and stop creating industries for these $$ grubbers...

You should team up with Kevin Trudeau to write a Psychiatric Self-Help guide, with the all-natural cures "They" don't want us to know about!
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 17, 2008, 07:25:57 PM
Quote from: abrader
Or people could just take control of their own minds and stop creating industries for these $$ grubbers...

You should team up with Kevin Trudeau to write a Psychiatric Self-Help guide, with the all-natural cures "They" don't want us to know about!

And "They" = THE JEWZ
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: TVC15 on January 17, 2008, 07:28:11 PM
Fact: the jews invented Tourette's syndrome to keep the white man down.  Also post-traumatic stress disorder.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 17, 2008, 10:19:29 PM
Quote
I honestly believe that our society has let people slime themselves into the most helpless positions imaginable all because they are lazy.

Laziness can be preferable to diligent activity that actually harms society.  For example, if all the PR flacks, lobbyists, and IT middle managers whose jobs mostly consist of aggressive bullshitting were to instead stay home in bed and collect welfare checks, the world would be a better place.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: Ichirou on January 17, 2008, 10:28:50 PM
Psychiatry blos......its as bad as posting your problems on the web ;)

Psychotropics are for girly men, pill poppers and drug addicts.



Jesus, abrader.  What the fuck.
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 12:12:51 AM
Jesus Christ Ichy go fuck yourself.

I can think what I want - discussion therapy has its merits but psychotropics are gash.

I tend to have more self control than others as I have quit smoking among other things without any medical or chemical intervention and realize that some feel it is impossible - even with chemical aides.

This is my opinion - I can do without psychotropics/sedatives - so im my world I dont see why anyone else cant.

I think we as society disable ourselves at times with this nonsense and pharmaceutical bio-chemical marketing.

I have seen like way more wrong diagnoses than accurate ones - and people lives completely ruined because a doctor loaded someone up with xanax instead of just helping to sort out the core issues.

So if you got something to say Ichy go for it - but if all you are going to do is type stuff like that "Jesus, abrader.  What the fuck." - I say go get buthumped by a giraffe. (and yes it is true about what they say about giraffes wit long necks)


Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 12:19:19 AM
I don't think anyone would disagree that the psychiatric world might be quick to medicate and that there's a good percentage out there that could do better without them, but to throw out all psychotropics is pretty distinguished mentally-challenged.

TOM CRUISE distinguished mentally-challenged, THAT IS.

(http://www.evilbore.com/images/tomcruiseretard.jpg)
Title: Re: Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold
Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 12:24:58 AM
Throw them out - you can do it!

No its fine - I know some people need that ZING to make it thru the day.

P.S. Tom Cruise is wkyd - he just needs to get a gig at a new cult.

Maybe he should start a band or something.

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Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 12:26:21 AM
I don't take any medications, but I happen to know several people personally that legitimately have severe mental problems that do harm to themselves and others if taken off of their drugs.  Hell, even missing a dosage is enough to set them off.  Seeing is believing, I guess.
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Post by: TVC15 on January 18, 2008, 12:28:29 AM
Like I said, so the fuck what if some people need antidepressants to make it through the day?

And god knows that I can't keep my paranoia under control, and I'm as cheerful and in control as they come.  Am I just not MANNING UP enough?  I don't medicate, but it's definitely there, and it comes and goes in cycles.  Or what about my SEVERE INSOMNIA.  I can't MAN UP for that either. 
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 12:31:26 AM
I thought iv been more than clear that I dont mind what anyone takes - nor do I look down on it...

and yes I take stuff to sleep (ambiens are mega fun), stay awake, for pain, to party etc.... but you gotta take on the serious stuff on your own - meet every situation head on ja?

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Post by: TVC15 on January 18, 2008, 12:32:57 AM
I thought iv been more than clear that I dont mind what anyone takes - nor do I look down on it...

Quote
Psychotropics are for girly men, pill poppers and drug addicts.

You must have quite a definition for "clear."
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 12:34:00 AM
Oh and if you are being serious about the paranoia - I say you are in control since you recognize it for what it is - and think that you should pay attention to your gut feelings- no matter how wacky the seem - just dont act drastic.

I dont think you need meds for that - you are in touch.

Plus meds over long time period fuck up your kidneys and cause all kinds of other problems - its better if you can get by without.




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Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 12:34:18 AM
My opinion is once you start doing harm to yourselves and others, including family members, and if medication along with a strict therapeudic calendar can help you lead a healthy life - fuck MANNING UP!

What about women going through postpartum, like when Brooke Shields admitting to taking medicaton that helped her (and Tom Cruise cursed her for)?

There are lots of good reasons for folks to be on medication.  There are lots of bad ones too - "My child has ADD or some kind of fucking thing. Basically I don't like hyperactive kids and can't be responsible to parent, so drug him up!"

But saying that psychiatry kills and that medication kills, hijacking the Holocaust for their own agenda and all this crap is just delusional brainwashing.  L. Ron Hubbard taught his subjects that psychiatry was evil because when families rightly made the decision to try and get help to remove their loved ones from his clutches (and usually these folks are emotionally/mentally vunerable anyway), it served as a great defense mechanism.  Of course the psychiatrist thinks your depressed or brainwashed - he is evil and full of evil body thetans!  Viva La Xenu!
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 12:34:41 AM
I thought iv been more than clear that I dont mind what anyone takes - nor do I look down on it...

Quote
Psychotropics are for girly men, pill poppers and drug addicts.

You must have quite a definition for "clear."

Thats a very snarky comment in this thread about Tom Cruise. I was kidding.

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Post by: TVC15 on January 18, 2008, 12:37:31 AM
Oh and if you are being serious about the paranoia - I say you are in control since you recognize it for what it is - and think that you should pay attention to your gut feelings- no matter how wacky the seem - just dont act drastic.

I dont think you need meds for that - you are in touch.

Plus meds over long time period fuck up your kidneys and cause all kinds of other problems - its better if you can get by without.






But this is where your YOU CAN DO IT logic reaches its end.  I do go day to day and I deal with my many, many neuroses, but they are still there.  They do not go away, no matter how much I want them to.  If I was ever in a position where my mental capabilities were weakened, I really would not be shocked if I went totally overboard.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 18, 2008, 12:37:56 AM
smh @ abrader
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2008, 12:39:22 AM
Is abrader more like FoC or APF?
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 12:40:00 AM
I think the argument is dead once you reach the point when you realize that Scientology is a cult and L. Ron Hubbard only engrained this hatred against psychiatry to keep his subjects scared of the one medical field capable of removing them from that culture.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 18, 2008, 12:40:08 AM
foc, if foc ever went off his meds
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Post by: TVC15 on January 18, 2008, 12:40:39 AM
I'd have to say FoC, since he's reasonably close to my ignore list.  APF is my nicca, though. 
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 12:41:24 AM
I love APF.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2008, 12:42:51 AM
I'm cool with APF, but you have to admit he likes being contrary.

I'm starting to think it's more FoC too.
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Post by: TVC15 on January 18, 2008, 12:44:47 AM
I'm cool with APF, but you have to admit he likes being contrary.

I'm starting to think it's more FoC too.

I think I like APF because he can dish out a good one liner when he wants to.  Also, a lot of his more contrarian posts are facetious, so it is hilarious seeing internet dumbs go for them.  I don't believe he buys his own shit a significant portion of the time, which is more than what I think of the other side of the scale.
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 12:48:21 AM
You guys become real cocksuckers when you disagree with someone.

None today thanks.

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Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2008, 12:49:59 AM
I think we're all being pretty playful dude. I sure as hell don't hate FoC.
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 12:51:31 AM
I can be king cock too so I dont mean "THIS IS WAR" or anything ;)

Still what they say about the web arrogance of evilbore is pretty true and funny
/
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 12:52:25 AM
WHO IS "THEY"?

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I bet it's the Jews!
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2008, 12:52:30 AM
You're definitely a cock.

And OA is way more arrogant than this place. GAF is too, they just don't know it.
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 12:52:40 AM
Oh and if you are being serious about the paranoia - I say you are in control since you recognize it for what it is - and think that you should pay attention to your gut feelings- no matter how wacky the seem - just dont act drastic.

I dont think you need meds for that - you are in touch.

Plus meds over long time period fuck up your kidneys and cause all kinds of other problems - its better if you can get by without.






But this is where your YOU CAN DO IT logic reaches its end.  I do go day to day and I deal with my many, many neuroses, but they are still there.  They do not go away, no matter how much I want them to.  If I was ever in a position where my mental capabilities were weakened, I really would not be shocked if I went totally overboard.

But thats just it - you dont have to get rid of them, just understand your tendencies and maybe even embrace them....

Thats my take anyway

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Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2008, 12:53:55 AM
Oh and if you are being serious about the paranoia - I say you are in control since you recognize it for what it is - and think that you should pay attention to your gut feelings- no matter how wacky the seem - just dont act drastic.

I dont think you need meds for that - you are in touch.

Plus meds over long time period fuck up your kidneys and cause all kinds of other problems - its better if you can get by without.






But this is where your YOU CAN DO IT logic reaches its end.  I do go day to day and I deal with my many, many neuroses, but they are still there.  They do not go away, no matter how much I want them to.  If I was ever in a position where my mental capabilities were weakened, I really would not be shocked if I went totally overboard.

But thats just it - you dont have to get rid of them, just understand your tendencies and maybe even embrace them....

Thats my take anyway



His whole point was that some new negative influence on his already strained life could be the straw that breaks the camel's back and turn him towards damaging behavior. If that were to happen, would you tell him to toughen up? I'd tell him to seek help.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 12:54:30 AM
Embrace clinical depression, TVC!

(http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/05/55/23365505.jpg)
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2008, 12:55:17 AM
:rofl
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Post by: TVC15 on January 18, 2008, 12:55:26 AM
I can be king cock too so I dont mean "THIS IS WAR" or anything ;)

Still what they say about the web arrogance of evilbore is pretty true and funny
/

Arrogance?  You're the one that came in tossing off "psychology blos" comments.
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 12:56:07 AM
WHO IS "THEY"?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I bet it's the Jews!
[close]

Oh im sorry - its something that can be cited often....Someone who still posts at OA or something could likely find people saying it. I dont go around there anymore - just here and mupepe.

I dont think its that big of a deal - I think its more because some of you know each other in real life so it sometimes makes outsiders think - "This isnt a forum, its a website of these 4 guys who are friends who want to talk to the world like everything they like, or believe in is the law"

Its kind of like some random stranger getting stuck in a car with me and 3 of my friends I have known for 10+ years - that person isnt gonna get our jokes etc...

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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 12:56:45 AM
I can be king cock too so I dont mean "THIS IS WAR" or anything ;)

Still what they say about the web arrogance of evilbore is pretty true and funny
/

Arrogance?  You're the one that came in tossing off "psychology blos" comments.

I was just sticking up for Tom Cruise!

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Post by: TVC15 on January 18, 2008, 12:57:30 AM
He was the weak link in Eyes Wide Shut.  His only good movie role was as a gay vampyr.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2008, 12:57:32 AM
FoC
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Post by: sky on January 18, 2008, 12:57:52 AM
interesting video.
Keen observers will also note, the awards presentation appears to be set within one of the stages of Soul Calibur.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 01:00:40 AM
interesting video.
Keen observers will also note, the awards presentation appears to be set within one of the stages of Soul Calibur.

 :lol
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 01:01:16 AM
Top Gun? Risky Business?


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Post by: MCD on January 18, 2008, 01:33:07 AM
He was the weak link in Eyes Wide Shut.  His only good movie role was as a gay vampyr.
(http://i19.tinypic.com/6ltxugw.jpg)

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fuck the ending
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Post by: TVC15 on January 18, 2008, 01:37:21 AM
I don't watch movies that have names that sound like they came from a direct-to-video cheapie action flick starring Dolph Lundgren.
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 01:37:48 AM
yes he was fucking AWESOME in Collateral!

I also liked LAst Samurai.

Comeon give tom cruise a break - they are prolly drugging him anyway to get him like that....

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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 01:38:28 AM
I don't watch movies that have names that sound like they came from a direct-to-video cheapie action flick starring Dolph Lundgren.

Collateral is easially worth one view at least...Jamie Foxx is great too.

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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 02:06:06 AM
Burroughs had a good take on Psychotherapy ;)

Quote
Avoid fuck-ups.
We all know the type.
Anything they have anything to do with,
No matter how good it sounds,
Turns into a disaster.
Do not offer sympathy to the mentally ill.
Tell them firmly:
I am not paid to listen to this drivel.
You are a terminal boob.

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Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 18, 2008, 02:07:46 AM
I don't watch movies that have names that sound like they came from a direct-to-video cheapie action flick starring Dolph Lundgren.
STFU!  Dolph Lundgren has made lots of awesome direct-to-video films.  You're shitting on the man's legacy to the world.
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Post by: Ichirou on January 18, 2008, 02:19:01 AM
Jesus Christ Ichy go fuck yourself.

*snip abrader losing it yet again*

Jesus Christ, abrader.  Calm the fuck down.  You are one of the touchiest motherfuckers on the planet.  Pretty much anything sets you off, and then five minutes later you're dashing me a PM calling me chaka zulu and apologizing.
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 02:20:13 AM
ill touch you

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my sac on yer chin
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Post by: Ichirou on January 18, 2008, 02:22:39 AM
WHO IS "THEY"?

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I bet it's the Jews!
[close]

Mupepe.com.  abrader posted a pretty huge diatribe psychoanalyzing you (oh, the irony) and the motivations of EB posters.
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 02:23:47 AM
LOL - I dont know what you are like in real life Ichy - but you do win the award for being the biggest pussay little dwarf bitch on the internet.

Congrats!

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Post by: Ichirou on January 18, 2008, 02:25:28 AM
LOL - I dont know what you are like in real life Ichy - but you do win the award for being the biggest pussay little dwarf bitch on the internet.

Congrats!



Is this like the Scientology Award for Bravery in the Field of Excellence?  Do I get a medal?
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 02:29:31 AM
No but why dont you quote exactly what I wrote about Wilco since you want to try to make it something its not. I still stand behind my statement and its not a big deal.

Secondly - I sent you a PM once weeks ago when you made like 4,500 posts in that other thread.

I am not ashamed to try to make peace with someone when I think we have had a collision - but dont lie about it you little asslicker.

I am also not ashamed to admit when I am wrong and someone else is right.

You cant seem to grasp any of those concepts.

So I say you need to burn all of your clothes and start wearing little girl dresses - its what little bitches like you do.

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Post by: Ichirou on January 18, 2008, 02:30:39 AM
Last week is "weeks ago"?  You can't seem to grasp the concept of time.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 18, 2008, 02:31:30 AM
IT PUTS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN
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Post by: Ichirou on January 18, 2008, 02:32:28 AM
OR ELSE IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN
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Post by: abrader on January 18, 2008, 02:34:09 AM
You guys are really annoying.

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Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 18, 2008, 02:36:06 AM
you know what'll help with these feelings, right?

hint: it starts and ends with "x"
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Post by: Mandark on January 18, 2008, 03:10:50 AM
Quote from: Cruise
A Scientologist is someone who can look at the world and really see what it is.  Not only look at it and see it, but go *poof* and be effective and do something about it.  And someone who's not asking permission to do that.  Why ask permission?  We are the authorities.

I'm late catching up on all this, but that part creeped me out something fierce.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 03:14:37 AM
Dude, didn't you see?  He was responsible for saving everyone after 9/11!  He's introduced Scientology to over one billion people!  Tom Cruise is the messiah!  We should fill his wife's vagina with LRH's sperm!  HAIL!  HAIL!

Honestly, I think it's creepier how he regurgitates their doctrine and then drops all kind of terminology without batting an eye.  He's truly gone.
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Post by: Mandark on January 18, 2008, 03:25:07 AM
It is a bit freaky to see how complete the indoctrination is.  But I was prepared for that by the last few years, and before that by repeated exposure to bus stop prophets.

I actually get a bit frightened when people start talking about how their superior vision of reality (read: craaaaaazy conspiratorial dogma) exempts them from the rules of society or gives them authority over others.

Not like Cruise and Travolta are plotting a coup, but it's a dangerous sentiment.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 18, 2008, 03:44:53 AM
I mentioned this before, but I had a friend whose parents were high up in the church (her father, as I later discovered through google, has actually appeared on TV and before congress to speak for them).  She'd apostated and fled to China, for years afraid to set foot in the US. 

One thing I found interesting is I'd vaguely assumed the church leaders were totally cynical and aware that they were running a scam, but she says they're actual religious fanatics.  Even if Hubbard started it as a conscious scam (and I'm skeptical of Ellison's story; he likes to embellish these kinds of things) he seems to have had mental problems that worsened over time, and may well have come to believe his own crazy lies.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 04:14:40 AM
Well, it's said that Hubbard was on a diet of drugs when he created the Xenu story and I'm sure that due to a steady diet of hallucigens and mental deterioration, Hubbard began to believe the nonsense he was spewing.  I have no doubt that Hubbard started Scientology as a scam, and there are more folks than just Ellison who back this claim up, but I guess if you have enough people believing you're a deity, you might believe it yourself.
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Post by: Mandark on January 18, 2008, 04:31:05 AM
Even assuming the entire thing had started as a scam, and there was a small, high-level cadre who knew this and never started to believe their own stories, eventually you'd have to elevate new leaders from the lower ranks.

I can't imagine it would be easy to promote someone who's been brainwashed, tell them it's all hokum, and expect them to make the adjustment and keep running the scam.

And the only alternative would be to hire from the outside and pull a Dread Pirate Roberts (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/).
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Post by: TVC15 on January 18, 2008, 04:31:39 AM
Well, it's said that Hubbard was on a diet of drugs when he created the Xenu story and I'm sure that due to a steady diet of hallucigens and mental deterioration, Hubbard began to believe the nonsense he was spewing.  I have no doubt that Hubbard started Scientology as a scam, and there are more folks than just Ellison who back this claim up, but I guess if you have enough people believing you're a deity, you might believe it yourself.

I forget the exact anecdote, but that sounds accurate to what I remember:  he was on some drug-fueled safari/retreat in Africa or something when he discovered OC3, which is the freaky shit.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 04:39:02 AM
I have no doubt that the current Church of Scientology is fueled by religious zealots and David Miscavige is crazy.  The guy just looks crazy!  He really does think that auditing cured him of his asthma and other allergies.

Hubbard was a lot of things, but the man was a genius.  He created the church in such a way that it's virtually impossible to eradicate it or reason with their followers.  Everyone that criticized the Church is a criminal according to them.  It's just bizzare.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 18, 2008, 04:39:14 AM
I'd somehow gotten the idea (probably just from his title being Chairman of the Board) that Miscavige was in fact hired from the outside, that he'd previously been a corporate exec or something, sort of like Apple bringing in the CEO of Pepsi to run their company.  This turns out to be far from the truth though.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2008, 04:41:04 AM
No, Miscavige had asthma, allergies and other physical ailments.  His family read Dianetics and decided to get that a try, and apparently he was cured or has gone prolonged periods of time without having asthma attacks or allergies or what have you.  Thus, he was a convert!  And he proved himself to Hubbard and advanced through the ranks rapidly, so much so that he was basically running the whole show before Hubbard's death and apparently micromanages the whole operation nowadays.  Creepy guy.
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Post by: T-Short on January 18, 2008, 06:25:44 AM
Well, according to this article, the Miscavige takeover was more of a coup:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/hubbardcoroner/ (http://www.xenu.net/archive/hubbardcoroner/)

Also some nice coroner reports inside

xenu.net is nice.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 18, 2008, 04:31:04 PM
fuck :lol