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Title: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 10:10:08 AM
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"ADV Cancels 37 Titles
Anime Offerings on 'Indefinite Hiatus'
Canceled

January 28, 2008

In a letter to retailers ADV Films has identified 37 anime properties including Devil May Cry, Gurren Lagann, and Pumpkin Scissors that are "on indefinite hiatus, effective immediately." The list includes virtually all of the properties that ADV has announced since its financing deal with the Sojitz Corporation (see "Japanese Investment Bulks Up ADV") in late June of 2006. The properties that ADV has announced (and released) since then are from a variety of anime studios but they were all licensed through the ARM Corporation, a subsidiary of Japan Contents Investment, an investor group that included the Sojitz Corporation, the Development Bank of Japan and KlockWorx. In its letter to retailers ADV explained: "ADV has suspended certain elements of its former alliance with ARM Corporation, which financed the acquisition of these titles. ADV is working closely with various constituencies with the goal of restoring most if not all of these properties to our release schedule at a later date to the extent possible."



The list includes properties that have already been released in their entirety such as Nerima Daikon Brothers, Guyver, and 009-1, series such as Pumpkin Scissors, Kurau Phantom Memory, and Red Garden that have only been partially released, and eagerly awaited anime such as Devil May Cry, Gurren Lagann and 5 Centimeters per Second that have been announced for later this year. The complete list of ADV anime properties on hiatus is:



009-01
5cm Per Second
Ah! My Goddess: Flights of
Fancy
Air Gear
Air Movie
Air TV series
Best Student Council
Blade of the Phantom Master
Comic Party Revolution
Coyote Ragtime
Devil May Cry
Ghost Train
Gurren Lagann
Guyver
Innocent Venus
Jinki: Extend
Kanon TV Series
King of Bandit Jing: 7th Heaven
Kurau Phantom Memory
Le Chevalier D'Eon
Magikano
Moeyo Ken TV Series
Moonlight Mile
Nerima Daikon Brothers
Pani Pani Dash!
Project Blue
Pumpkin Scissors
Red Garden
Synethesia
The Wallflower
Tokyo Majin
UFO Princess Valkyrie - Third
and Fourth Seasons
Utawarerumono
Venus vs. Virus
Welcome to the NHK
Xenosaga



Coming on the heels of Geneon's departure (see "Geneon Ankles American Anime Scene") the ADV announcement is more bad news for the reeling North American Anime Industry. For the past few years ADV has been the number two anime company in the North America, with a solid 12-13% share of the anime DVD market. Recently though ADV has been showing signs of stress. It has pulled its support from its industry-leading collection of anime clubs and two weeks ago announced that it would cease publication of Newtype USA (see "Newtype USA Ending"). The collapse of ADV's deal with ARM does not necessarily mean the end of one of the trailblazing American anime companies, which was founded in 1992. ADV still has an extensive library of titles including the ever-popular Neon Genesis Evangelion. Still the fate of ADV subsidiaries such as The Anime Network, the Newtype successor PiQ (see "Newtype Successor Broadens Focus"), and the ADV manga publishing program that includes the bestselling Yotsuba&! manga remains in the balance as does the future of one of the pioneering powerhouses of the American anime market."

THANKS HIMUMU
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Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2008, 11:17:21 AM
Wow, Gurren cancelled? ADV IS PISSED.

I doubt its my fault, i've spent near thousands in Anime. Red Garden looked promising...Le Chevalier D'Eon looked neat too, and thats not completely out either.

Its clear Gurren was meant to be the major F U of the bunch. I hope some Anime "Fans" straighten up and fly right.
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Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 11:20:01 AM
Not my fault either, I have bought fucktons of anime (admittedly, I wait for sales most of the time, but doesn't everyone?), I have never pirated licensed stuff, and I've bought a ton of crappy and cool mecha stuff to support the fandom.

The blame for this lies squarely on Himuro's shoulders.  He's probably watching pirated ADV anime (Full Metal Panic) as we speak, while reading pirated ADV manga (Yotsuba&!, which he didn't even know was licensed).
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Post by: Tauntaun on January 30, 2008, 11:32:14 AM
Sounds like we need a good old fashioned ANIMU LYNCHING!  :punch
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Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2008, 11:37:49 AM
Oh I've grabbed a few licensed things but I always end up buying the whole set lol.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 30, 2008, 11:43:25 AM
Damn, that's a lot of stuff. Gurren Lagann and Welcome to the NHK are good stuff, and Coyote Ragtime Show was kind of a guilty pleasure of mine.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2008, 11:49:46 AM
NOT ANYMORE SEZ HIMURO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guess now ill HAVE to "BORROW" Gurren :(
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Post by: Beezy on January 30, 2008, 12:21:57 PM
Tokyo Majin :(
Gurren Lagann :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: CajoleJuice on January 30, 2008, 12:35:29 PM
Nice job, Himuro.

No really. Nice job.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 02:54:55 PM
I was going to buy Gurren Lagann okay? Get off my case, Ichi. You know just as much as I do that barely anyone buys anime period. So don't put the blame solely on me!

Plus, anime in america was doomed to have a crash. They oversaturated the market thinking everone was going to buy every 9999 anime titles they brought over here, and aside from the absolute RICH fucks like Morphix, no one really gives a shit.
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Post by: TVC15 on January 30, 2008, 02:58:33 PM
NOT ANYMORE SEZ HIMURO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guess now ill HAVE to "BORROW" Gurren :(

You can "borrow" my "borrowed" copy.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2008, 02:59:01 PM
awesome
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Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2008, 02:59:52 PM
I was going to buy Gurren Lagann okay? Get off my case, Ichi. You know just as much as I do that barely anyone buys anime period. So don't put the blame solely on me!

Plus, anime in america was doomed to have a crash. They oversaturated the market thinking everone was going to buy every 9999 anime titles they brought over here, and aside from the absolute RICH fucks like Morphix, no one really gives a shit.

Lots of people buy anime if you dont hang around criminals
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 03:00:49 PM
Hahaha not really.

Anime is a niche hobby. "lots" aka 10k people
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Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2008, 04:23:03 PM
Haha yes thats why walmart sells anime now. stfu re re
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 30, 2008, 04:26:16 PM
I think my brother owns approximately 1000 anime titles. I borrow stuff from him a lot (no quotation marks around borrow).
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2008, 04:31:18 PM
stfu re re

 :lol


 :'(
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 05:30:37 PM
[16:20] <duckroll> let's laugh at anime
[16:21] <duckroll> and how it makes no money
[16:21] <duckroll> because no one fucking buys it
[16:21] <duckroll> are you ready?
[16:21] <duckroll> 1
[16:21] <duckroll> 2
[16:21] <duckroll> 3
[16:21] <duckroll> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[16:21] <Himu> LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 05:31:34 PM
Haha yes thats why walmart sells anime now. stfu re re

They don't sell the all the worthwhile titles. They sell stuff that's popular. Like DBZ.
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Post by: T234 on January 30, 2008, 05:32:54 PM
Tell duckroll that he still should buy time on national tv and chew gum.
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Post by: abrader on January 30, 2008, 05:34:40 PM
Thee worm waits its turn

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Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 30, 2008, 05:40:49 PM
I think my brother owns approximately 1000 anime titles. I borrow stuff from him a lot (no quotation marks around borrow).

I used to buy a lot of anime. Now my interest in the genre is reserved to Gundam, other quality mecha shows, Leiji Matsumoto, Ghibli, Satoshi Kon and anything I deem "smart" (Gankutsuou, Stand Alone Complex, etc.).
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 05:42:06 PM
Gankutsuoh :bow 2nd best anime tv series ever
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Post by: T234 on January 30, 2008, 05:45:03 PM
A lot of it comes down to looking at the price of this shit and walking outta the fuckin store when you realize this shit costs a day's entire pay and then you gotta call to get your bank balance before you put gas in your fucking car in the morning.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 05:45:27 PM
Anime pirates :bow

my brothers

Dling GTO right now.
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Post by: GilloD on January 30, 2008, 05:46:55 PM
Look at the titles of those shows. Who, aside from internet UBER GEEKS, could possibly cultivate an interest in PUMPKIN SCISSOR TWINS? This has less to do with piracy and more to do with the gravy train slowing to a stop. Try marketing and not just drift netting Japanese television next time.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 05:47:39 PM
anime I am going to buy this year:

any DBZ boxset
One Piece movie that comes out NEXT MONTH
One Piece BOXSET OMG

Any DEALS I CAN FIND

:rock
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Post by: Rman on January 30, 2008, 05:47:43 PM
I still buy anime as well.  Hopefully GL gets released here.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 05:48:21 PM
Look at the titles of those shows. Who, aside from internet UBER GEEKS, could possibly cultivate an interest in PUMPKIN SCISSOR TWINS? This has less to do with piracy and more to do with the gravy train slowing to a stop. Try marketing and not just drift netting Japanese television next time.

Exactly. It's like I said. Oversaturation. They think we are willing to buy these piece of shit?
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Post by: Vizzys on January 30, 2008, 05:49:22 PM
Ive never pirated any of those shows

me :bow

When they cancel bleach tho you can blame or praise me
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 05:54:40 PM
i am going to look at this list and see what i pirated




009-01 - wtf
5cm Per Second - wtf is this
Ah! My Goddess: Flights of - nope
Fancy - wtf is this
Air Gear - wtf is this
Air Movie - Air LAWL
Air TV series - I "pirated" this YEARS ago   before it was even licensed!
Best Student Council - wtf is this
Blade of the Phantom Master - wtf is this
Comic Party Revolution - nope
Coyote Ragtime - Yes, I pirated it and it was UGH. Who would buy this?
Devil May Cry - Nope!
Ghost Train - wtf is this
Gurren Lagann - I pirated it and I'd gladly buy it
Guyver - Nope! Heard of it but never watched!
Innocent Venus - nope!
Jinki: Extend - Nope!
Kanon TV Series - I pirated it but wouldn't buy it!
King of Bandit Jing: 7th Heaven - Bandit Jing? This is old as shit.
Kurau Phantom Memory - wtf is this?
Le Chevalier D'Eon - wtf is this?
Magikano - wtf is this?
Moeyo Ken TV Series - wtf is this?
Moonlight Mile - That show that Bebpo hyped that was on par with Planates? lol BEBPO.
Nerima Daikon Brothers - wtf is this
Pani Pani Dash! - wtf is this
Project Blue - I remember this but I didn't get the chance to watch/
Pumpkin Scissors - wtf is this?
Red Garden - Red Garden is cool. I'd probably buy it.
Synethesia - wtf is this
The Wallflower - wtf is this
Tokyo Majin - wtf is
UFO Princess Valkyrie - Third
and Fourth Seasons - wtf is this
Utawarerumono - wtf is this
Venus vs. Virus - wtf is this
Welcome to the NHK - NHK is awesome. I'd buy it.
Xenosaga - AHAHAHAHAHAHAH no.

So basically. Who in their right mind aside from Morphix would even BUY this shovelware? There's like 2-3 quality titles in the whole batch and you're giving me shit for the anime industry going to crap? LAWL
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 05:56:42 PM
And? It wasn't even released yet. GJ
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Post by: Tauntaun on January 30, 2008, 05:57:23 PM
Ive never pirated any of those shows

me :bow

When they cancel bleach tho you can blame or praise me

Just as long as the manga continues until it's finished...if that ever happens.
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Post by: T234 on January 30, 2008, 05:57:42 PM
Anime pirates :bow

my brothers

Dling GTO right now.
Woah there pahdna, I ain't pirated shit, except for music and OLD roms.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 06:02:52 PM
manga > anime

and the manga industry is stupidly oversaturated as well!
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 06:06:09 PM
Word! Manga!!!

Yes, I did pirate GL. But I was going to buy it because I liked it a lot.
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Post by: Trent Dole on January 30, 2008, 06:06:25 PM
lol, buying anime.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 06:07:32 PM
oh yeah. another anime i am buying this year:

ZETA GUNDAM ANIME LEGENDS BOXSETS AND COWBOY BEBOP ANIME LEGENDS BOXSET

:bow bandai visual

A chance to pay Bandai back after pirating Zeta Gundam!!
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 30, 2008, 06:07:52 PM
I pirated GL but it sucked so I wouldn't have bought it
first show I watched in like 5 years
glad to help kill ADV
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Post by: Flannel Boy on January 30, 2008, 06:13:25 PM
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Himuro kills anime in America;

About time you did something good!
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 06:14:58 PM
ADV DIDN'T CANCEL YOTSUBATO

:bow :bow :bow

*continues to pirate Yotsubato*
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Post by: drew on January 30, 2008, 06:17:34 PM
About time you did something good!

*throws confetti everywhere*
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Post by: hyp on January 30, 2008, 06:25:06 PM
lets bring it back to the VHS fansub days when you had to write snail mail to get into "the club"!
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2008, 06:40:26 PM
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Himuro kills anime in America;

About time you did something good!

Now he needs to kill the opressive dragon that is the United States
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Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 09:01:18 PM
Hahaha not really.

Anime is a niche hobby. "lots" aka 10k people

That's about the size of a big anime convention, and there's a lot more animu fans in the US than that.

But hey, you don't care.  Go ahead and kill what you profess to love.

MURDERER.

Next up, you'll kill manga too.  You're already pirating Yotsuba&! and God knows what else.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2008, 09:04:07 PM
I always figured anime was a healthy seller in Japan, and a better seller in the US simply due to the difference in population size.
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Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 09:05:09 PM
Gankutsuoh :bow 2nd best anime tv series ever

Released in the US by your first victim, Geneon.  What company will you kill next, Himu?  Which of my sources of enjoyment will you slowly strangle with your gigantic flaccid e-penis? I'm betting it'll be Bandai, you cheese-eating bastard.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:13:04 PM
I "pirate" one piece manga and have been "pirating" one piece manga since 2004. however, i buy one piece manga in the states as well.
I "pirated" beck manga, prior to being licensed some of which I have domestically. they STILL haven't caught up to the point I was at when it was licensed.
I "pirated" deathnote manga, prior to being licensed, some of which I have domestically
I "pirated" 20th century boys, prior to being licensed, but the manga creator is a git who refuses to let them release 20th Cent in the States until they're done releasing his amazing manga Monster
I "pirated" Monster manga, prior to being licensed,  and own most of it domestically.

So on. However, with manga I tend to pick up random stuff off the shelf that looks intersting, unlike anime since it tends to be much cheaper. Through this I have been introduced to Tezuka Otomo's Buddha, Yoshihiro Tatsumi's The Push Man and Other Stories, and Abandon the Old in Tokyo.

Suck my nuts. I support the manga industry proudly.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:14:02 PM
I always figured anime was a healthy seller in Japan, and a better seller in the US simply due to the difference in population size.

It's not a popular seller in either region. In Japna it's stupidly expensive and no one buys it except otakus. In America, it's a niche hobby where only a few buy the stuff and the market is oversaturated with shit.
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Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 09:14:41 PM
Don't get upset if I call you a thief when you are...y'know, a thief.

SMH

[16:20] <duckroll> let's laugh at anime
[16:21] <duckroll> and how it makes no money
[16:21] <duckroll> because no one fucking buys it
[16:21] <duckroll> are you ready?
[16:21] <duckroll> 1
[16:21] <duckroll> 2
[16:21] <duckroll> 3
[16:21] <duckroll> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[16:21] <Himu> LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Hahahahaha thieves laughing about stealing

Don't post ducktroll shit here unless that singaporean distinguished mentally-challenged fellow finally signs up, please.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:17:45 PM
I just hate self conscious fucks who rattle on about piracy, especially in regards to anime, something who's quality is so random, you must be a fool to buy blindly without having watched before.

People who give me lectures on pirating stuff, especially anime, are on the list. Raijin, Fujin. Don't forget to toss Ichi on THE LIST.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:19:16 PM
Gankutsuoh :bow 2nd best anime tv series ever

Released in the US by your first victim, Geneon.  What company will you kill next, Himu?  Which of my sources of enjoyment will you slowly strangle with your gigantic flaccid e-penis? I'm betting it'll be Bandai, you cheese-eating bastard.

what the christ i own gank
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Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 09:23:38 PM
I just hate self conscious fucks who rattle on about piracy, especially in regards to anime, something who's quality is so random, you must be a fool to buy blindly without having watched before.

People who give me lectures on pirating stuff, especially anime, are on the list. Raijin, Fujin. Don't forget to toss Ichi on THE LIST.

I'm not giving you a lecture, dude.  I'm just calling you a thief.

Also, lol at "buying anime blindly" when there's so many ways to enjoy free previews of stuff.  ADV's website lets you watch first episodes of a lot of series before they premiere, Anime Network, Newtype pack-in DVDs.  smh at you making excuses for your thievery.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:24:58 PM
No one has the anime network. No one except otakus buy Newtype. Watching anime from ADV's site is the same thing as watching anime on youtube which is the same thing as downloading a whole series.

You're calling me a thief, but you sure are being emotional about it! You not buying these titles until the companies go over is practically the same thing!
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Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 09:27:55 PM
Dude, you loudly and proudly state "I steal shit!"  That pretty much gives me the right to make fun of you for stealing shit.

BTW, my house has the Anime Network, don't give me that.  You're making poor excuses because you're ignorant about how to go about acquiring shit legitimately and it's falling flat.

Also, uh, you are an otaku.

And

YouTube =/= official ADV website =/= torrenting shit
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:29:46 PM
I'm not an otaku. An otaku is something who lives for a certain thing. I rarely watch anime as it is.

I'm not making up excuses at all. I don't give a shit. No one I know has the anime network. I have satelitte and don't have that shit.

Get off my balls when practically every single anime fan on the internet pirates.

I say I STEAL SHIT because it annoys your petty overly sensitive ass.
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Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 09:31:47 PM
I'm not an otaku. An otaku is something who lives for a certain thing. I rarely watch anime as it is.

I'm not making up excuses at all. I don't give a shit. No one I know has the anime network. I have satelitte and don't have that shit.

Get off my balls when practically every single anime fan on the internet pirates.

No, it's too much fun to watch your reactions when confronted with the fact that you're a thief.

And yes, you're an otaku, dude.  You played Persona 3 and pretended to be a Japanese high school boy.  You also watch a fuckload more anime than I do.
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Post by: bork on January 30, 2008, 09:33:27 PM
Look at the titles of those shows. Who, aside from internet UBER GEEKS, could possibly cultivate an interest in PUMPKIN SCISSOR TWINS? This has less to do with piracy and more to do with the gravy train slowing to a stop. Try marketing and not just drift netting Japanese television next time.

Exactly. It's like I said. Oversaturation. They think we are willing to buy these piece of shit?

I'm sure this does play a part, but come on.  It's all the people downloading anime that are the cause of this.  Your typical anime geek IS an internet uber geek, and it is ridiculously easy to find and download fansubbed shows, DVD rips, or just watch something on Youtube or a similar video site.
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:34:21 PM
I played Persona 3 because I could shoot myself in the head and summon Persona, and fight awesome rpg battles. How does that make one an otaku?

It's too much fun? You're just making yourself look even more overly sensitive than in the past. You're getting on my case when everyone pirates anime, and you blame me for the industry's demise when I even OWN the series I have "pirated" in the past. You say I pirated these series when I was watching them well before they were licensed. Perhaps you're just a nub?
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Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:34:59 PM
Look at the titles of those shows. Who, aside from internet UBER GEEKS, could possibly cultivate an interest in PUMPKIN SCISSOR TWINS? This has less to do with piracy and more to do with the gravy train slowing to a stop. Try marketing and not just drift netting Japanese television next time.

Exactly. It's like I said. Oversaturation. They think we are willing to buy these piece of shit?

I'm sure this does play a part, but come on.  It's all the people downloading anime that are the cause of this.  Your typical anime geek IS an internet uber geek, and it is ridiculously easy to find and download fansubbed shows, DVD rips, or just watch something on Youtube or a similar video site.

Well yeah. It's true for both parts. But acting like it's JUST the pirates is stupid.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 09:35:14 PM
At least I can watch Gurren Lagann fansubs now that Himumu killed ADV!
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:36:38 PM
Ichirou says I'm the otaku when he lives in Japan.

Pot meet Kettle.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 09:37:32 PM
Ichirou says I'm the otaku when he lives in Japan.

Pot meet Kettle.

You could live in Japan too if you didn't waste all your money on drugs and chalupas.

Note that I am not saying I'm not an otaku.  I realize I qualify.  I am a major japafag and an "out" homojapual.  I'm just trying to move you out of your state of denial and towards acceptance of what you are.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:41:50 PM
It's not who I am at all. Used to be when I was a teenager, when I was obsessed with Japan? Yes. Now? No. Anime is just a hobby among other hobbies, which I just recently started to pick up again.

Until the past week I watched only one anime on a regular basis. Before then, I think 2004 was the last time I watched an anime on a regular basis. I think that hardly qualifies as an otaku. I watch more live action than anime. An otaku is someone who watches anime and ONLY anime and bases their life around it.

There's a difference between a fan, and an obsessed freak.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: TVC15 on January 30, 2008, 09:42:10 PM
I am pretty sure that Allah would not approve of your pride over your thefts.  This isn't Aladdin, dude!
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:43:49 PM
:lol tvc

I can't believe Ichi is pulling this otaku shit. Look at the gaf anime threads. I rarely even post in them. Jesus Christ. You're at an all time new low.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 09:44:00 PM
I think if you polled people here, pretty much everyone would say you're an otaku, Himu.

And, y'know, a criminal.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:44:40 PM
That's not really fair since Evilbore is pretty anti-anime in the first place.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 09:46:03 PM
That's not really fair since Evilbore is pretty anti-anime in the first place.

There's a lot of self-loathing about it, but I would wager over half the board enjoys anime.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:48:05 PM
No they don't. People HATE anime here. Until recently, almost every anime thread would overrun with LOL ANIME.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: bork on January 30, 2008, 09:49:20 PM
I "pirate" one piece manga and have been "pirating" one piece manga since 2004. however, i buy one piece manga in the states as well.
I "pirated" beck manga, prior to being licensed some of which I have domestically. they STILL haven't caught up to the point I was at when it was licensed.
I "pirated" deathnote manga, prior to being licensed, some of which I have domestically
I "pirated" 20th century boys, prior to being licensed, but the manga creator is a git who refuses to let them release 20th Cent in the States until they're done releasing his amazing manga Monster
I "pirated" Monster manga, prior to being licensed,  and own most of it domestically.

So on. However, with manga I tend to pick up random stuff off the shelf that looks intersting, unlike anime since it tends to be much cheaper. Through this I have been introduced to Tezuka Otomo's Buddha, Yoshihiro Tatsumi's The Push Man and Other Stories, and Abandon the Old in Tokyo.

Suck my nuts. I support the manga industry proudly.

You don't have to put "pirated" in quotation marks.  Licensed or not, you downloaded scans.  That's called PIRACY.  

Manga is much, much better and more diverse in its offerings compared to the dreck that's on TV nowadays.  Even the limited selection of stuff that gets brought out in English.

I buy manga all the time.  It's cheaper here and I'm taking advantage of that.  But buying anime in Japan?  FORGET IT.  You know why so much stuff is up on the internet so quickly?  Because DVD prices are insane.  6000-8000 for a fucking DVD with like 3 episodes on it.  And the executives say "I NO UNDERSTAND.  WHY THEY IS PIRATE?"  Yeah, suck my nuts.  Who's really the pirate here?   ::)
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 30, 2008, 09:50:25 PM
Uh, no.  Seriously, even people like Prole who make fun of anime, watch it.  Maybe you've been spending too much time at GAF (that forum you swore you'd never go back to) or at their OT (that sub-forum you swore you'd never post in again) and forgot how things actually work at the 'Bore.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:51:06 PM
Manga > anime
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Rman on January 30, 2008, 09:52:47 PM
Himuro, the ''animu'' thing seems in all good self-deprecating fun.  I don't see any hateful thing about it.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: TVC15 on January 30, 2008, 09:52:51 PM
Note that I actually do hate anime!  I just have a few things, like Slayers and Evangelion and a few other of the biggies that I keep around for more the sake of nostalgia than anything.

Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Rman on January 30, 2008, 09:53:48 PM
Just like in all media, the majority is usually crap.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:53:50 PM
Uh, no.  Seriously, even people like Prole who make fun of anime, watch it.  Maybe you've been spending too much time at GAF (that forum you swore you'd never go back to) or at their OT (that sub-forum you swore you'd never post in again) and forgot how things actually work at the 'Bore.

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=2426.0

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=16440.0

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=14324x0

Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: bork on January 30, 2008, 09:55:25 PM
Ichirou says I'm the otaku when he lives in Japan.

Pot meet Kettle.

It doesn't matter where you live.  An otaku is nothing more than a fanboy/girl obsessed with SOMETHING (doesn't have to be anime) and generally has social issues and problems having a normal life outside his or her "hobby."  It's a generally negative word that American idiots decided to take on as a loan word and use positively.  And then with shows like Densha Otoko, the "otaku" lifestyle took on a new popularity of its own in Japan.

Ichi seems to have himself a social life, and you know...FRIENDS.  So I think he's fine.  I'd wager you probably are too, Himuro.  We aren't otaku.  We're just nerds.  I'm a big video game nerd.  Nerds are okay 'cuz they also have lives outside their hobbies.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:57:14 PM
Exactly. I didn't want to get offensive but then Ichi starts calling me an otaku. This guy takes a piss poor troll and turn it into ridiculousness.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: TVC15 on January 30, 2008, 09:59:00 PM
Ichi seems to have himself a social life, and you know...FRIENDS.  So I think he's fine.  I'd wager you probably are too, Himuro.  We aren't otaku.  We're just nerds.  I'm a big video game nerd.  Nerds are okay 'cuz they also have lives outside their hobbies.

Himuro is NOT fine.  He is totally fucked up.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 30, 2008, 09:59:59 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: bork on January 30, 2008, 10:00:44 PM

Himuro is NOT fine.  He is totally fucked up.

Oh? Well never mind then.  Carry on.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2008, 10:49:03 PM
himuro am crazy batshit anime killer
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Shuri on January 30, 2008, 11:09:10 PM
I liked ninjas scrolls. Naked chicks and ninjas. It was fun.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: bluemax on January 30, 2008, 11:21:32 PM
Does this mean GL fansubs will finish? I got busy with school and didn't finish GL.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: bork on January 30, 2008, 11:33:45 PM
Does this mean GL fansubs will finish? I got busy with school and didn't finish GL.

GL = Gurrenn Lagann?  It was finished up by a few fansub groups.  I don't think the quality was as good as the previous groups, but it was decent enough.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 31, 2008, 12:17:12 AM
Exactly. I didn't want to get offensive but then Ichi starts calling me an otaku. This guy takes a piss poor troll and turn it into ridiculousness.

I was using it in the American sense, you big baby.  I find it funny that you get offended by my calling you an otaku more than my calling you a thief, when both are true.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2008, 12:18:30 AM
i consider otaku the japanese sense. which is the bad sense.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Vizzys on January 31, 2008, 12:27:51 AM
Himuro how many animu women covered pillows do you hug at night
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 31, 2008, 12:29:17 AM
i consider otaku the japanese sense. which is the bad sense.

That's because you're a TRUE otaku.  If you were a fake one you'd be going "OH I'M OTAKU KAKKOIIIII DESU DESU DESU" but because you're a true otaku, improper use of Japanese offends you.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2008, 12:29:58 AM
what :lol
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2008, 12:30:27 AM
Himuro how many animu women covered pillows do you hug at night

5
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Tauntaun on January 31, 2008, 12:31:06 AM
Himuro how many animu women covered pillows do you hug at night

5

 :lol
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: MCD on January 31, 2008, 01:20:25 AM
Himu, it's time to Hajj.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: abrader on January 31, 2008, 01:21:26 AM
i think iv sat thru maybe 2 anime DVD's my entire life.

It doesnt flikk my bic

Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Trent Dole on January 31, 2008, 01:28:33 AM
*belch*
DMC volume 1 is sitting on the shelf at my job right now. WTF happened to ADV to make them pull so much of their crap?  :o
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 31, 2008, 01:34:55 AM
*belch*
DMC volume 1 is sitting on the shelf at my job right now. WTF happened to ADV to make them pull so much of their crap?  :o

Himuro happened.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 31, 2008, 01:36:22 AM
what :lol

I said you were an "otaku" in the American sense.  You immediately assumed I meant it in the Japanese sense since you have the Japanese mindset of a TRUE otaku as opposed to an Americanized one.

You have gone far too deep into the rabbit hole to ever climb back out.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2008, 01:39:44 AM
No, otaku is a phrase NO ONE should be happy being called, especially referring THEMSELVES to that name. Why would anyone call themselves an otaku? An otaku is an otaku. It has nothing to do with Japanese mindset. How can you change a definition of a word to fit your own culture? An otaku is an otaku, point blank.

Are you stupid? Who would want to be called an otaku PERIOD?

[00:35] <pancakesandsex> i refuse to be lumped in with a bunch of people too ignorant about the culture they worship to realized they adopted a moniker that implies lack of personal hygene
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 31, 2008, 01:48:34 AM
No, otaku is a phrase NO ONE should be happy being called, especially referring THEMSELVES to that name. Why would anyone call themselves an otaku? An otaku is an otaku. It has nothing to do with Japanese mindset. How can you change a definition of a word to fit your own culture? An otaku is an otaku, point blank.

Words change meaning from culture to culture ALL THE TIME.

smh

Why are you always quoting other people's IRC logs?  I don't give a fuck about ducktroll or pancakesandsex.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 31, 2008, 02:20:11 AM
Why does himu keep quoting people is this some kinda of new internet argument style that sucks?
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Post by: Ichirou on January 31, 2008, 02:23:49 AM
I can do it too

<Himuro> Stop saying I look like B.I.G. on the post your picture thread
<Himuro> I sent you the nudes didn't I
<Himuro> YOU SAID I WAS SEXY
<Ichirou> I lied, Mr. Smalls
<Himuro> fuckkkkkkkkkk

spoiler (click to show/hide)
This log may or may not be real
[close]

That's about as relevant as the c/p'ed logs he's using have been to his argument.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2008, 03:51:16 AM
i'm doing it because practically every other anime fan thinks ur dum
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 31, 2008, 03:52:33 AM
fear is the mind killer
himumu is the anime killer
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Post by: MCD on January 31, 2008, 04:02:00 AM
kinda off topic, the first episode of Witchblade is up on Xbox Live, free.
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: Ichirou on January 31, 2008, 04:52:54 AM
i'm doing it because practically every other anime fan thinks ur dum

<Himuro> lol
<dicktroll> lollllllll
<Himuro> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
<dicktroll> LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULZ

You've certainly proved your point.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on January 31, 2008, 10:17:45 AM
himuro: it'd work better if you quoted people that others respected LOL ;P
Title: Re: Himuro kills anime in America; doesn't give a shit, continues pirating.
Post by: bork on February 01, 2008, 02:40:45 AM
Himuro how many animu women covered pillows do you hug at night

Does anyone have that picture of the four or five Japanese guys in a room filled with anime stuff hugging pillows?