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Title: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 14, 2008, 05:30:51 PM
Is it worth it?
And is it easy to switch back to 2 again in case you didn't like it?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Mupepe on March 14, 2008, 05:38:08 PM
:piss Firefox :piss2
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: T234 on March 14, 2008, 06:02:27 PM
:piss Firefox :piss2
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: bud on March 14, 2008, 06:06:11 PM
:piss Firefox :piss2
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 14, 2008, 06:10:08 PM
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/joshb/red_forman.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: T234 on March 14, 2008, 06:13:27 PM
:piss furfags :piss2
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Tauntaun on March 14, 2008, 06:16:57 PM
:piss IE7 :piss2 :-*

As to what the OP asked, idk man, I usually wait for the official versions, don't usually touch beta stuff.  That could be cause I'm a noob though.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 14, 2008, 06:26:09 PM
"the OP"

is that how you refer to me these days :'(
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Shins on March 14, 2008, 06:54:10 PM
I usually wait for the official versions, don't usually touch beta stuff.

Yip. I tried out Firefox 2 when it was still in beta, but I found a lot of my extensions not working properly. And Firefox without extensions is worthless.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 14, 2008, 09:45:20 PM
:piss firefox :piss2
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: MCD on March 14, 2008, 09:51:14 PM
 :bow IE7 :bow2
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 14, 2008, 09:55:55 PM
you guys seriously made me :bawl
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 14, 2008, 10:02:59 PM
:bow :bow :bow IE7 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: bud on March 14, 2008, 10:06:03 PM
:bow safari :bow2
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 14, 2008, 10:07:56 PM
I dunno, I don't have positive impressions of IE7. I tried it, it's kinda fast, but the interface is annoying
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: MCD on March 14, 2008, 10:09:06 PM
McDragon is a Rare fan so he is used to subpar knockoffs.
i'm sorry?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: MCD on March 14, 2008, 10:15:43 PM
my love for rare is mostly for banjo and :bow RARE TEXTURES :bow2

and i still love you  :bow cohen :bow2
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Vizzys on March 14, 2008, 10:29:48 PM
its good

very, very fast
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: MCD on March 14, 2008, 10:31:05 PM
its good

very, very fast
wow viz

where have you been  :o
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 14, 2008, 10:31:24 PM
its good

very, very fast

First serious reply itt, ty.

Will it import all my bookmarks and "buttons" I have on the browsers?

what about the extensions and all the other settings?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Ecrofirt on March 15, 2008, 10:31:22 AM
It's extremely fast. Pages load much quicker with it than with IE7 for me.

Unfortunately, Foxytunes doesn't seem to work. I love Foxytunes.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Ecrofirt on March 15, 2008, 10:32:26 AM
its good

very, very fast

First serious reply itt, ty.

Will it import all my bookmarks and "buttons" I have on the browsers?

what about the extensions and all the other settings?

It auto-imported my bookmarks and extensions. It also told me which extensions didn't work with it and let me check for updates that were compatible with the beta.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Shins on March 15, 2008, 11:02:30 AM
It auto-imported my bookmarks and extensions. It also told me which extensions didn't work with it and let me check for updates that were compatible with the beta.

Did you find the majority of them compatible?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Ecrofirt on March 15, 2008, 11:17:13 AM
It auto-imported my bookmarks and extensions. It also told me which extensions didn't work with it and let me check for updates that were compatible with the beta.

Did you find the majority of them compatible?

I use the following extensions:
Adblock Plus
DownThemAll
Downloadhelper
IE Tab
FoxyTunes

Firefox told me that DownloadHelper and IE Tab weren't compatible with the new version, but it let me check for updates for them. It then downloaded compatible versions of the extensions.

FoxyTunes is a no-go, though. Not a surprise, however, since the extension hasn't been updated since August.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Beezy on March 15, 2008, 11:32:52 AM
Does it still have the awful memory leaks?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Shins on March 15, 2008, 11:39:36 AM
Firefox told me that DownloadHelper and IE Tab weren't compatible with the new version, but it let me check for updates for them. It then downloaded compatible versions of the extensions.

Nice. I think I'll jump in then.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 15, 2008, 12:02:22 PM
All I use is Download Statusbar and the Save Image In Folder, add-on/extension.

how hard is it to revolt back to FF2?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: APF on March 15, 2008, 07:11:49 PM
The latest beta is stable, very fast and has a lower memory footprint; I'd say go for it if FF is your main browser.  IME you can turn off the extensions-checking and not encounter any serious problems, so why not?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 15, 2008, 07:14:39 PM
Hmmm.... how long until the official version comes out?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Candyflip on March 15, 2008, 07:50:44 PM
Wow, this is fast. And it supports Flashgot :D
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 15, 2008, 08:03:02 PM
^did it also import the personal buttons/favorites (HOW THE FUCK DO YOU CALL THOSE?) beneath the seach bar?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 15, 2008, 09:55:36 PM
Quote
Hmmm.... how long until the official version comes out?

There will be a beta 5 (confirmed) so at least a couple months yet.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Bloodwake on March 16, 2008, 04:26:58 AM
Like all beta software, it has it's ups and downs. Whenever the final Firefox 3 comes out it will be better than IE7 I think. Right now, I'm having too many problems with routine shit to really like it, such as submitting shit on Blackboard and watching videos on ABC.com. You know, shit that the IE 8 beta can still do.

In other words, the dumbass tech people on campus seem to think that people upgrading to IE7 will have compatibility problems, so they've sent out an email to all students to keep IE 6. They are full of shit.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Ichirou on March 16, 2008, 05:35:20 AM
IE7 blows.


:piss Internet Explorer :piss2

:piss Microsoft :piss2

:bow :bow :bow Firefox :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: MrAngryFace on March 16, 2008, 06:19:48 AM
ie6 is :(
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 16, 2008, 12:00:57 PM
^did it also import the personal buttons/favorites (HOW THE FUCK DO YOU CALL THOSE?) beneath the seach bar?

anyone? :(
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Ecrofirt on March 16, 2008, 07:32:59 PM
Like all beta software, it has it's ups and downs. Whenever the final Firefox 3 comes out it will be better than IE7 I think. Right now, I'm having too many problems with routine shit to really like it, such as submitting shit on Blackboard and watching videos on ABC.com. You know, shit that the IE 8 beta can still do.

In other words, the dumbass tech people on campus seem to think that people upgrading to IE7 will have compatibility problems, so they've sent out an email to all students to keep IE 6. They are full of shit.

the thing that fucked our tech department with Blackboard was a total lack of communication between branches of IT.

We've got our computer labs running with Java 6, and our version of Blackboard only supports Java 1.4/1.5. Worse yet, our networking department refuses to do anything with Java over active directory, even though I've shown them papers from Sun.com explaining how to upgrade/remove Java with AD.

FUCKERS.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 16, 2008, 11:05:57 PM
megabytes???


what?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Candyflip on March 16, 2008, 11:08:01 PM
^did it also import the personal buttons/favorites (HOW THE FUCK DO YOU CALL THOSE?) beneath the seach bar?
Yep.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 16, 2008, 11:11:24 PM
megabytes???


what?

Memory footprint.
The big drop is if all tabs are closed except for an about:blank.


hmm, so IE7 has bigger memory leaks than FF2? Didn't know that.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Ichirou on March 16, 2008, 11:14:21 PM
:bow Firefox :bow2

:bow official browser of Evilbore :bow2
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: T234 on March 16, 2008, 11:25:20 PM
(http://pavlovdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ff3-ff2-ie7.png)
Bullshit. Everybody who says that firefox has smaller memory leaks shouls see this pic.



(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e378/T-234/OMGFF1GB.png)
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Candyflip on March 16, 2008, 11:33:28 PM
(http://pavlovdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ff3-ff2-ie7.png)
Bullshit. Everybody who says that firefox has smaller memory leaks shouls see this pic.



(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e378/T-234/OMGFF1GB.png)
What the hell did you do?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Ichirou on March 16, 2008, 11:35:25 PM
Two PNGs...which to believe?!
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: brawndolicious on March 16, 2008, 11:35:58 PM
(http://pavlovdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ff3-ff2-ie7.png)
Bullshit. Everybody who says that firefox has smaller memory leaks shouls see this pic.
What the hell did you do?
oh come on stop with that BS T2..you admitted that that happened when you opened a page with like a thousand cat pics.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: T234 on March 16, 2008, 11:38:56 PM
Left three tabs open.

When this shot was taken my friend was using downthemall in one tab on a medium sized page of pictures.


Edit: The pictures were less than a gig in total.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Candyflip on March 16, 2008, 11:44:44 PM
Left three tabs open.

When this shot was taken my friend was using downthemall in one tab on a medium sized page of pictures.


Edit: The pictures were less than a gig in total.
That is "medium"?

And how is your memory usage shooting through the roof while using an addon to download ~700(?)mb of pictures an indicator of Firefox performance in any way? I did get memory leaks every few weeks or so, but never to that extent. I think the highest mine went was 300mb. I had left the browser open all day with 4 tabs while playing WoW.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 16, 2008, 11:46:55 PM
T234's pic is nothing compared to what IE7 did to me!


(http://i29.tinypic.com/295srpd.png)





spoiler (click to show/hide)
btw I was banned there for a couple of minutes  :ninja
[close]
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: T234 on March 17, 2008, 12:27:40 AM
Use downthemall of FF3B4 on the full sized versions of every picture on this site and report your findings.

http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/index.html (http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/index.html)
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 17, 2008, 12:29:27 AM
Ok I'm diving in.

And if something goes wrong I just blame you guys.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: T234 on March 17, 2008, 12:35:08 AM
Now when I say full sized, I mean not the thumbnails.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 17, 2008, 12:42:25 AM
Ok I installed it.

I don't notice any increase in speed whatsoever.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 17, 2008, 12:46:53 AM
Ok maybe a little bit....
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 17, 2008, 12:55:14 AM
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I DONT HAVE A SCROLL-CLICK FUNCTION ANYMORE?


WTF IS THIS SHIIT
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: T234 on March 17, 2008, 12:56:57 AM
Hopefully you installed it in a different directory lolz.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 17, 2008, 12:59:59 AM
nope lolz
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: T234 on March 17, 2008, 01:02:14 AM
whoopz
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 17, 2008, 01:03:20 AM
Hey do I look like I give a fuck :dur
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 17, 2008, 01:44:24 AM
# of tabs open at once actually doesn't have much effect on Firefox's long-term memory usage, at least with the 1/2 versions.  The problem is that FF didn't free memory properly when tabs are closed, so I get about the same behavior from 200+ tab research sessions as from just channel surfing in a few tabs all day.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: MCD on March 17, 2008, 02:54:33 AM
i've been using fire fox for the longest time till i got fed up with the "FIREFOX CRASHED LOL CLOSE PLZ", then i switched to IE7 and it's much better.

now IE7+IE7Pro is my main browser and FF2 is for everything IE7 can't open or won't open properly, and for downloading from megaupload.

can't wait for IE8.  :P
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 17, 2008, 02:55:16 AM
that 'take screenshot from an entire page' function suddenly doesnt work for me anymore
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Candyflip on March 17, 2008, 02:58:41 AM
Weird, still working fine for me.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7576/anyonegotfirefox3beta4ygy0.png
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: MCD on March 17, 2008, 03:01:17 AM
an installation problem perhaps?

http://www.ie7pro.com/

uninstall it and get the latest one (2.1) and try again, working fine here:

(http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08121/anyone_got_firefox_3_beta_4_yet614.png.xs.jpg) (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs125&d=08121&f=anyone_got_firefox_3_beta_4_yet614.png)

P.S. IE6 blows, thank god for FF for making browsers better (tabs fuck yes!) now IE7/8 have competition which is good.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Candyflip on March 17, 2008, 03:06:06 AM
an installation problem perhaps?

http://www.ie7pro.com/

uninstall it and get the latest one (2.1) and try again, working fine here:

(http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08121/anyone_got_firefox_3_beta_4_yet614.png.xs.jpg) (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs125&d=08121&f=anyone_got_firefox_3_beta_4_yet614.png)

P.S. IE6 blows, thank god for FF for making browsers better (tabs fuck yes!) now IE7/8 have competition which is good.
Oh. I'm an idiot :lol
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 17, 2008, 03:07:32 AM
Why are you an idiot?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: MCD on March 17, 2008, 03:08:10 AM
yeah why?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Candyflip on March 17, 2008, 03:09:00 AM
I thought he was referring to the Firefox addon for taking screenshots of a page. Didn't know he meant IE.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: MCD on March 17, 2008, 03:09:54 AM
oh...

since he uses FF, perhaps he will like this addon better, tell him of it.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 17, 2008, 03:11:54 AM
honestly, why is IE7 so much better than firefox?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 17, 2008, 03:31:59 AM
better tabbed browsing, better site compatibility/rendering (note that most sites are written for ie, the REAL standard, not that w3c goofball shit), better profile/performance, better integration -- did i mention the better tabbed browsing?
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Ichirou on March 17, 2008, 03:33:17 AM
I prefer Firefox's tabbed browsing.  IE is an inferior product in every respect.  I wish it wasn't so integrated into Windows so I could just uninstall it altogether.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Powerslave on March 17, 2008, 03:33:56 AM
explain how tabbed browsing is better in IE than in FF
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 17, 2008, 03:54:49 AM
Quote
note that most sites are written for ie, the REAL standard, not that w3c goofball shit)

W3C recommendations tend to be about the worst designs possible EXCEPT for Microsoft's corruptions of them.   :-X
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Candyflip on March 17, 2008, 04:02:43 AM
http://pearlcrescent.com/products/pagesaver/
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Candyflip on March 17, 2008, 04:17:45 AM
I wasn't even aware there was a pro version. For the record the free version works perfectly fine and I cannot think of many other features that would make it better than it already is.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: MCD on March 17, 2008, 06:06:09 AM
better tabbed browsing, better site compatibility/rendering (note that most sites are written for ie, the REAL standard, not that w3c goofball shit), better profile/performance, better integration -- did i mention the better tabbed browsing?
real talk professor.

if MS integrated IE7pro features in IE8 then it will be a real competitor to FF.

because as of now, IE7 feels like a normal browser with no power user stuff (like FF addons)
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: APF on March 17, 2008, 12:49:48 PM
How is IE7's tabbed browsing better?  I've never really used IE7 outside of compatibility-checking.  Most web devs will code to the w3c standards / Firefox and bugfix for IE, so the idea that IE7 has better site rendering is slightly absurd.  For most shops I've been at, IE6 is a priority and IE7 an afterthought, so its rendering might actually be less accurate / more buggy than IE6.  This is changing every day however (6 and 7 have ~the same market share, depending on where you look).  Unless you're talking about an MS shop / Microsoft web apps, legacy / intranet sites, etc., which is valid but slightly beside the point.


FTR I *hate* Opera's tabbed browsing with a passion.
Title: Re: Anyone got Firefox 3 Beta 4 yet?
Post by: Ecrofirt on March 17, 2008, 01:43:38 PM
In fact, I dislike IE7's tabbed browsing. I don't like how it throws tabs after the tab I'm currently viewing and not at the end of the tab list.

Fuck IE7 tabs.