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Title: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 31, 2008, 09:18:32 AM
[youtube=425,350]iraCEDfJoXI[/youtube]

PS3? 360? I DON'T GIVE AN F'. Definitely CG but the presentation = :heartbeat This game is going to fucking be so awesome. Persona 1-3 pwnt. Himuro am suiciding like Emo cigarillo in Mehico
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: The Sceneman on March 31, 2008, 09:22:17 AM
never played a Star Ocean game but Tri-Ace had something to do with Baten kaitos right?
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 31, 2008, 09:27:48 AM
I dont' think so...I think thats Monolith Soft or something? tri-Ace are known for the Star Ocean and Valkyrie Profile.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on March 31, 2008, 09:28:13 AM
relax blue.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 31, 2008, 09:37:59 AM
relax blue.

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Can't wait for the HD version of this trailer on Xbox Marketplace next week :hyper

:wag :lol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Eric P on March 31, 2008, 09:53:50 AM
liked the first one

loved the second one

didn't play the third
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 31, 2008, 09:57:06 AM
liked the first one

loved the second one

didn't play the third


The gameplay in the third one is hot but the story is  :-X
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on March 31, 2008, 09:58:05 AM
 :hump blue
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: CurseoftheGods on March 31, 2008, 10:14:05 AM
Is this for the 360? I can't watch the video, I am at school. :'(
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on March 31, 2008, 10:21:55 AM
not announced yet.

it's just a cg trailer with no ps3/360 logo.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 31, 2008, 12:59:52 PM
Star Ocean always teases you with the cool Sci-Fi stuff, but 99.9% of the game will take place on some medieval fantasy world.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 31, 2008, 01:02:32 PM
God, thats probably whats going to happen. tri-Ace has been awesome though (gameplay wise) but I fear for the general storyline scenario of this game after Valkyrie Profile 2
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: muckson on March 31, 2008, 01:15:56 PM
oh no.  did valkyrie profile 2 suck?  i was going to slam through the first and second ones in a short while.  then i was going to play star ocean 3 but it sounds like that game might have a shitty storyline too. 

i loved so2; so much so that i played it twice in a row with both claude and rena to get both viewpoints and endings. 
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 31, 2008, 01:21:01 PM
oh no.  did valkyrie profile 2 suck?  i was going to slam through the first and second ones in a short while.  then i was going to play star ocean 3 but it sounds like that game might have a shitty storyline too. 

Both VP2 and SO3 had horrid scenarios, SO3 exponentially worse. Don't let that turn you off from playing both of them though because the gameplay aspects of both games are very enjoyable. Plus both games are packed to the brim with content (when it comes to equipment and endgame stuff)
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on March 31, 2008, 01:22:56 PM
SO3 story was fine till that twist.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 31, 2008, 01:30:29 PM
The problem I have with SO3 was that it was a complete letdown. Being stuck on that damn planet for so long and nothing happening for a good 3/4ths of the games length was just insane.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on March 31, 2008, 01:36:12 PM
who cares when you have a nice battle system.

maria :bow2

albel  :bow2
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Himu on March 31, 2008, 02:01:34 PM
Persona 1-3 pwnt. Himuro am suiciding like Emo cigarillo in Mehico

:rofl

Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: y2kev on March 31, 2008, 02:07:20 PM
i hav ur back himu

star ocean more like lol ocean

but i'm excited anyway, next gen rpgs are rarer than non wii shovelware
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on March 31, 2008, 02:09:57 PM
i'm with blue

fuck emosona.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Himu on March 31, 2008, 02:25:31 PM
i'm with blue

fuck emosona.

the only persona that even qualifies as "emo" is 3 and even then it's more badass than any star ocean

the only really good star ocean is 2

the definitive tri-ace series is valkyrie profile
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: T234 on March 31, 2008, 02:30:07 PM
i'm with blue

fuck emosona.

the only persona that even qualifies as "emo" is 3 and even then it's more badass than any star ocean

the only really good star ocean is 2

the definitive tri-ace series is valkyrie profile
what
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Himu on March 31, 2008, 02:34:51 PM
it's still not better than any Persona except Persona 1
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: T234 on March 31, 2008, 02:40:11 PM
Star Ocean ONE ROCKED YOUR FACE, SON
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: tiesto on March 31, 2008, 02:42:10 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! What a thing to come back to NY to...

I'm not normally a fan of prequels, but I am really anticipating seeing how the world of SO came to be... the humans making first contact with all the different races and planets in the galaxy, Earth's technical expansion... it's cool how it's kind of in the near future, too.

I wonder if they're just gonna forget about SO3's storyline.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on March 31, 2008, 02:58:50 PM
but it's all CG :-\

disappointed, this is not the fucking PS1 gen. I need to see the fucking game running, not some goddamn CG.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on March 31, 2008, 05:20:59 PM
you're such a fucking gaffot, blue
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 31, 2008, 06:03:25 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 31, 2008, 06:24:26 PM
so is Gotanda writing the story again or did he run out of material from his sixth-grade history notebook?
and I mean that in the nicest possible way
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: y2kev on March 31, 2008, 06:53:25 PM
uh oh

you pissed on gotanda

here comes duckroll and error to right the ship
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on March 31, 2008, 06:54:20 PM
Man I tried to do SO3 once, I couldnt even do the beginning, it was so slow and lame and slow
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on March 31, 2008, 07:03:50 PM
Star_Ocean_Second_Evolution_JPN_PSP-Caravan
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on March 31, 2008, 07:07:45 PM
Can't wait for the HD version of this trailer on Xbox Marketplace next week :hyper

why would there be a trailer of a ps3 exclusive on xblm?  :-*
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 31, 2008, 07:08:50 PM
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uh oh

you pissed on gotanda

I don't think this is too controversial.  If you said it to Gotanda's face he'd probably be like, "Oh yeah, I was totally going for the 'sixth-grade history notebook' aesthetic, glad you noticed"
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on March 31, 2008, 07:14:01 PM
err he's right Gotanda cant write a story.

but his programming skills :bow :bow
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Himu on March 31, 2008, 07:15:41 PM
the star ocean 4 trailer is fucking amazing. If only sega would pool that much resources into a new Phantasy Star that doesn't have gay ONLINE in the title.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MrSingh on April 01, 2008, 12:06:54 AM
This is coming to 360.

PS3? Who knows, but TriAce is not loving the budget GPU either. :gloomy
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 01, 2008, 12:32:15 AM
Who knows, but TriAce is not loving the budget GPU either. :gloomy

 :lol

they're jap developer so they dont even know what a shader is... i doubt they care about the gpus (iu looks like a hd ps2 game)
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: FancyFeast on April 01, 2008, 12:42:58 AM
Square betrayal ton would kill the PS3.


talk
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: pilonv1 on April 01, 2008, 12:53:23 AM
Square betrayal ton would kill the PS3.

that won't happen, it's the year of ps3
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 01, 2008, 12:54:42 AM
My guess is Square's future console games will be mostly cross-platform, but I don't think they'll move or port anything already announced as exclusive.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 01, 2008, 01:04:19 AM
well, that and the fact that they've repeatedly talked about trying to appeal more to western markets.  I think their customer base is still tooJapan-centric for them to gamble on X360 exclusives, though. 
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 01, 2008, 01:07:40 AM
Cali, whats the sony fan take on all this?

if true then:

who cares about square? all their games sucks
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: pilonv1 on April 01, 2008, 01:12:14 AM
Cali, whats the sony fan take on all this?

if true then:

who cares about square? all their games sucks

Rare effect in use.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 01, 2008, 02:44:39 AM
Cali, whats the sony fan take on all this?

if true then:

who cares about square? all their games sucks
:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 01, 2008, 02:45:57 AM
i am the last remaining Square fan =(
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 01, 2008, 12:17:10 PM
I'm not a fan of the Star Ocean battle system, but I'd still find this to be a big blow to Sony.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: duckroll on April 02, 2008, 04:11:04 AM
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Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on April 02, 2008, 04:14:18 AM
none of the town shots were in the trailer

also all those 'battle' pics are new too.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on April 02, 2008, 04:18:59 AM
meh, no platform to get excited or troll over
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 02, 2008, 05:47:30 AM
since so4, a game we know basically nothing about, gets 4 pages of cg screens and no new info and a 360 exclusive that's right around the corner only gets 2 pages i think it's safe to assume that so4 is not a 360 exclusive :rock :rock

spoiler (click to show/hide)
tri-ace  :-\
[close]
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 02, 2008, 06:37:09 AM
SO4 cg character renders are awful.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 02, 2008, 06:49:13 AM
I'm an xfag and i don't believe this will be for the 360.

like no way man.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: duckroll on April 02, 2008, 06:53:41 AM
The real kick in the balls will be when Last Remnant includes a FFXIII playable demo...... on BOTH versions of the game.  :lol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 02, 2008, 06:59:55 AM
speaking of FF...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267901

bububu wiiware!
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 02, 2008, 07:44:48 AM
The real kick in the balls will be when Last Remnant includes a FFXIII playable demo...... on BOTH versions of the game.  :lol

i bet if xfags opened up their copy of last remnant and found a ps3 demo of ff13 a lot of them would be very tempted to buy a ps3 :rock

dcharlie is right.. :bow SE :bow2
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 02, 2008, 07:47:29 AM
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Anyways , by the end of this gen, i expect all the major third parties to be entirely third party (i.e. every game out on Wii/X360/PS3).

The Wii part is seriously doubtful, unless you're just talking about "polymorphic content" (i.e. different games in the same franchise developed at the same time for various platforms)
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 02, 2008, 08:52:39 AM
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The real kick in the balls will be when Last Remnant includes a FFXIII playable demo...... on BOTH versions of the game.

oh, i'm sure the final boot in the nuts has already been hinted about some time ago when they gave that "The only feasible way we could do FF7R is if we had a big enough userbase which may mean we have to go cross platform"



Honestly, if FFVIIr needs to go multiplatform for it to be made, DO IT SQUARE. The fallout would be freakin hi-larious
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 02, 2008, 09:47:07 AM
it would separate the distinguished mentally-challenged fellows from the true ff7 fans... sfags who would be upset and xfags who suddenly showed an interest in ff7

i would just be happy it's being made :rock
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 02, 2008, 10:04:43 AM
xfags doesnt mean people who own a 360 seeing how that would make me an xfag and im no xfag

i mean like if benjaminbirdie suddenly went "holy cow ff7 is awesome!" you'd know something's up
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Mondain on April 02, 2008, 10:15:10 AM
come on guys, why get hyped over this, you all know that once again it'll be a generic bullshit anime game that you'll all be more forgiving for because of the next-gen graphics
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: y2kev on April 02, 2008, 10:25:03 AM
more like skillotonn
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 02, 2008, 10:29:33 AM
benjaminbirdie is a massive wipeout fan, so he's obviously been raised on PS too... wtf are you talking about?

he doesnt even own a ps3!!!
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 02, 2008, 11:43:34 AM
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oh, i'm sure the final boot in the nuts has already been hinted about some time ago when they gave that "The only feasible way we could do FF7R is if we had a big enough userbase which may mean we have to go cross platform"

er as an obsessive follower of SE interviews and statements I'm pretty sure that never happened.  cite?

at any rate there's little to no chance of an FF7 remake appearing before 2012 when it will be too late to make much of a difference in console politics, thank God.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: duckroll on April 02, 2008, 11:46:08 AM
Hey groo, did you get Famitsu today? It'll be nice to have clean scans for the tri-Ace games, especially all the missing pages the guy didn't scan. ^^;
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on April 02, 2008, 03:01:47 PM
where are the clean scans?  :-\
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 02, 2008, 03:04:43 PM
http://www.epson.com/
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: hyp on April 02, 2008, 03:10:42 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 02, 2008, 04:07:47 PM
Splorgenborg launch title am confirmed?

C'mon, Tri Ace, just announce the damn platform already.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MrSingh on April 02, 2008, 10:01:38 PM
The real kick in the balls will be when Last Remnant includes a FFXIII playable demo...... on BOTH versions of the game.  :lol

That'll be nice, but Last Remnant isn't exactly running on PS3 at this point in time.

:gloomy RSX budget GPU :gloomy
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on April 03, 2008, 01:50:45 AM
can any kind soul in japan scan the tri-Ace stuff?
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 03, 2008, 02:02:57 AM
can any kind soul in japan scan the tri-Ace stuff?

You mean better scans, or was there more than Star Ocean 3 shown?
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Jabberwocky on April 03, 2008, 11:28:31 PM
Still no clean scans of anything?

Also, I really doubt SO4 is going to be a 360 game. For several reasons... for one, we've already had a semi-confirmation that it's for PS3 (I believe someone last year let it slip)...

... and more logically, didn't MS pay tri-Ace to make Infinite Undiscovery as a 360 exclusive (and also paid SE to publish)? I'm pretty sure I read that a while ago. Why would they have to pay for a tri-Ace exclusive if SO4 was a 360 exclusive? It just doesn't make sense. I strongly believe SO4 is either a PS3 exclusive or multiplatform.

oh, and hi.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Jabberwocky on April 04, 2008, 12:05:08 AM
I guess I was wrong about SE getting paid to publish, but MS did get tri-Ace to make the game... right? Or at least they're funding the development. I swear I read something like that before. I never knew about the tri-Ace recruitment though.

As for the scans, that would be utterly fantastic.  :D
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: tiesto on April 04, 2008, 12:46:32 AM
Here are my thoughts why SO4 will go either multiplat or be 360 exclusive:

-Like Groo said, tri-Ace was recruiting for 2 360 projects
-Infinite Undiscovery being coded from the ground up on 360... wouldn't it pay to use this engine as the basis for SO4?
-Star Ocean series is one of the more popular RPG series in America. No where near FF levels, but they all do pretty well (both SO2 and 3 were "greatest hits" and SO3 did something like 600,000 copies in the US)
-tri-Ace are suckers for technology, why would they wanna use rsx budget gpu  :gloomy

Now that Brawl is out, SO4 is my most wanted game right now...
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on April 04, 2008, 01:29:34 AM
I have Famitsu here - assuming they aren't going to post official shots later today, I can probably scan a few pages at lunchtime.
:bow :bow

I'm looking forward more to IU myself, seems like a more interesting project to me. of course, SO4 is very high on my list of anticipated games.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Mondain on April 04, 2008, 01:48:57 AM
Tri-Ace stated a bunch of times that their next-gen engine has been thought up for multiplatform from the ground up and will be used for all their future console projects
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 01:50:46 AM
Error - did you buy a 360? What did you think of the current RPGs on the box?
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 04, 2008, 01:52:29 AM
he didn't, waiting for NG2 i think.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on April 04, 2008, 01:57:16 AM
demi: I'm buying a 360 this summer, but I've been interested in mistwalker offerings for awhile. so I'm grabbing BD and LO. prolly BD first.

yeah NG2 and... GTA4 (I like GTA :-\)
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 04, 2008, 01:59:53 AM
gta?

the himumu effect.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 04, 2008, 02:04:33 AM
at least you can download the hard mode patch with BD.

while there is zero dlc for LO in the US market, it's like they spent so much marketing they can't afford dlc lol.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 04, 2008, 02:16:31 AM
The strongest sign pointing to a 360 release was the tri-Ace recruitment page that said they were working on two games for 360.

link please
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 04, 2008, 02:17:10 AM
does your scanner have an option for descreening filter? very good to deal with grainy scans.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 04, 2008, 02:20:05 AM
HP scanner?
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on April 04, 2008, 02:24:26 AM
Groo: :bow :bow

if it's not much a bother could you scan some VP DS stuff?
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 04, 2008, 02:27:23 AM
and oh, no need to apologize, if anything i should be apologizing for sounding like a dick.

i am just a man who is interested in scanners.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: FancyFeast on April 04, 2008, 02:27:58 AM
Wow that 3rd scan, the top left screen on it.   Looks like awesome action.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 02:32:00 AM
Groo scan your dick and PM it please
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 04, 2008, 02:32:22 AM
well, at least it isn't HP.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 04, 2008, 02:35:26 AM
btw...those SO4 shots are amazing if they are realtime.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Jabberwocky on April 04, 2008, 02:45:40 AM
 :bow Groo :bow2 thanks so much man

if it's not too much to ask do you think you could scan the VPDS pages? how many are there? do you think you could explain how the new battle systems work at least?

as a side, I would like to question tri-Ace's fetish for short haired blonde guys.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: duckroll on April 04, 2008, 05:53:19 AM
Thanks a lot, it's really appreciated. *hugz*

Some notes from the scans:

- SO4 was original planned as SO Zero, but they didn't want zero sales so they went with SO4
- Most of the systems in SO4 will be similar to SO3, Gotanda doesn't expect there to be any major changes
- SO4 doesn't really sound progressive at all if you weren't a fan of SO3, sounds like they want to make more of the same probably because it sold so well :/

- IU is totally seamless, like a MMORPG
- Even when you pause the game the menu options just pop up over the screen, there's no seperate pause screen
- Situations that are solved quickly offer bonus rewards like full party healing and so on
- There is a day/night cycle, it takes about 10 minutes of realtime to go from day to night and vice versa
- You will control the main character only, there are party members but you will control their AI using stances instead of commands
- Since the entire game is realtime, there will be a heavier involvement in AI and so on than previous games
- There are many characters in the game and each of them have their own stories
- But the way the stories are presented will NOT be like Valkyrie Profiles short story omnibus style, instead the characters will be fleshed out as they interact and travel together in the main story
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Post by: calcifer on April 04, 2008, 05:58:10 AM
why does so4 look so much better if it's on the same platform as ui? :lol

:bow PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system :bow2
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Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 05:58:50 AM
Sounds like some sort of next-gen Rogue Galaxy or XII... tell me why I am wrong
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Post by: demi on April 04, 2008, 06:04:18 AM
Tri-Ace also did VP and SO3, they are not so perfect either!
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Himu on April 04, 2008, 06:10:42 AM

- IU is totally seamless, like a MMORPG
- Even when you pause the game the menu options just pop up over the screen, there's no seperate pause screen
- Situations that are solved quickly offer bonus rewards like full party healing and so on
- There is a day/night cycle, it takes about 10 minutes of realtime to go from day to night and vice versa
- You will control the main character only, there are party members but you will control their AI using stances instead of commands
- Since the entire game is realtime, there will be a heavier involvement in AI and so on than previous games
- There are many characters in the game and each of them have their own stories
- But the way the stories are presented will NOT be like Valkyrie Profiles short story omnibus style, instead the characters will be fleshed out as they interact and travel together in the main story

OMFG
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Post by: calcifer on April 04, 2008, 10:40:53 AM
if the story is decent and it does ff12 gameplay better than ff12 then maybe it will be pretty sweet

:piss ff12 :piss2

:bow tri-ace :bow2
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: muckson on April 04, 2008, 10:59:54 AM
after those scans came up from groo i've started to show some interest....

if no one could tell from the avatar i'm waiting for the next drag-on dragoon/drakengard game to come along.  while the gameplay was debatably mediocre there was no question in my mind that both the games' storylines were the darkest, most sinister jrpg narratives ever with themes of unwilling sacrifice and royal incest playing the undertone to war violence, angst, and omnipresent despair. 

besides, when kaim showed up in the second game i dropped my controller, through my hands in the air, and cheered.  they did good by fans in the second game with the extras and plot twists.

is anyone with me on this?

anyone?

..................

/ :(\
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Post by: Beezy on April 04, 2008, 11:17:17 AM
How long ago was IU announced? I hope it isn't being rushed.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 04, 2008, 11:29:33 AM
Ps. where is "80% complete mid last year" White Knight Story?

on the wii next year :rock
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Post by: duckroll on April 04, 2008, 12:05:27 PM
Sakaguchi says Cry On is still by Cavia. It's also possible that Kusunoki is taking on more of an art director role for the overall project than replacing the character designer.

For those interesting in IU's scenario, based on the staff this is probably the most high profile scenario that tri-Ace has ever worked on. They got Ryo Mizuno (creator of Lodoss War) to collaborate with Shoji Gatoh (creator of Full Metal Panic) to come up with the original scenario concept. Gatoh is also supervising the overall scenario. The actual scenario and "situations" appear to be designed by ORG, the Japanese company that localizes D&D in Japan and also designs several original tabletop and card games.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 04, 2008, 02:32:55 PM
after those scans came up from groo i've started to show some interest....

if no one could tell from the avatar i'm waiting for the next drag-on dragoon/drakengard game to come along.  while the gameplay was debatably mediocre there was no question in my mind that both the games' storylines were the darkest, most sinister jrpg narratives ever with themes of unwilling sacrifice and royal incest playing the undertone to war violence, angst, and omnipresent despair. 

besides, when kaim showed up in the second game i dropped my controller, through my hands in the air, and cheered.  they did good by fans in the second game with the extras and plot twists.

is anyone with me on this?

anyone?

..................

/ :(\
i'm with you.

beat both games 100% and all weapons maxed out in the 2nd game (http://208.109.107.74/forum/Smileys/classic/jam.gif)
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Post by: Jabberwocky on April 04, 2008, 06:20:31 PM
I guess this is as good a place as any to post this since there was no official Jp Mag thread.

Tales of the World: ND 4 (I guess Radiant Mythology doesn't count as a ND game)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2274/2386056791_3650d8c868_o.jpg

It only shows the white haired kids from ND1-3, no word on who will make a guest appearance this time around. I hope it's a free roaming RPG and not an SRPG like ND3.

Could anyone translate the info? Does it say what genre it is? Is Alfa System developing?

There's also a clean scan of that Hercules game:
http://i28.tinypic.com/2lbl4k2.jpg
Artwork is nice.
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Post by: Error2k4 on April 04, 2008, 06:56:06 PM
get Not Found in your second link.

Beezy: game was first announced back in 2005.
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Post by: Jabberwocky on April 04, 2008, 07:04:05 PM
Sorry about that, rehosted.
http://i28.tinypic.com/2lbl4k2.jpg
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Post by: muckson on April 04, 2008, 10:40:49 PM
Tales of the World: ND 4 (I guess Radiant Mythology doesn't count as a ND game)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2274/2386056791_3650d8c868_o.jpg


Could anyone translate the info? Does it say what genre it is? Is Alfa System developing?

the genre is rpg, it says it right there in english letters on the bottom right in the white box.

the maker is bandai-namco games.

i can't read much else without a dictionary and spending 15 to 20 minutes on it, especially since it's so damned unclear, but i'm just wondering what the FUCK narikiri dungeon 4 is and what the hell happened to the other three.  and what tale of what world are they telling?
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Post by: muckson on April 04, 2008, 10:43:17 PM
I fucking love Drag-on Dragoon. It was my favourite game of the year when it came out. The setting and music really did it for me, because the gameplay was kind of iffy. But those dark endings were awesome. The second one I couldn't play at all... dunno why but I couldn't finish one of the really early missions, but I loved the soundtrack and it's one of my favourite game soundtracks ever. I'd love to check out the CG someday and find out what the story was about too. Hope there is a third game some day, but Cavia don't have much to do with Square these days, I think, and I doubt they would pay for the IP. Cry On looked to be going a similar way at one point, but they changed the artist(?) to the Panzer Dragoon guy and now Artoon is coding instead of Cavia... I think.


Quote from: McDragon
i'm with you.

beat both games 100% and all weapons maxed out in the 2nd game

groo and mcdragon made my balls quake with joy.  i love you guys.  i am NOT ALONE. 
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 04, 2008, 11:14:42 PM
i haven't played drakengard, but i watched the
spoiler (click to show/hide)
GIANT KILLER BABIES
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ending on YouTube.  <3

Originally, Fujisaka was not only the character designer for Cry On, butthe game was supposed to use shaders designed to make the graphics look like his illustrations.  Sakaguchi's recent interviews sure kinda make it sound like Kusunoki replaced him as the character designer, but he hasn't actually said that explicitly.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Jabberwocky on April 05, 2008, 04:06:35 AM
I bring terrible news.

The ToW ND4 news is fake. It was apparently an April Fools by Tales of Surprise?

son of a bitch. :(
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Post by: duckroll on April 05, 2008, 06:32:07 PM
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 05, 2008, 06:51:00 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271833
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Jabberwocky on April 05, 2008, 06:54:44 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271833

That also should prove (if there was any more doubt) that tri-Ace is involved with VPDS.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on April 05, 2008, 08:36:18 PM
can't believe icecream made that shitty thread.

SO4 FOR... DS! :lol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 06, 2008, 03:02:03 AM
so4 is at the very least ps3 time exclusive

only a fool would think otherwise
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on April 06, 2008, 06:07:32 AM
yeah just like how Tales of Vesperia is a PS3 timed exclusive... oh wait.  ::)
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 06, 2008, 06:52:49 AM
namco is distinguished mentally-challenged.. square isnt
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 06, 2008, 07:02:14 AM
wow namco is so smart!

http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/financial/pdf_bnh/en_20070509_2.pdf

(http://i32.tinypic.com/1i235g.png)
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on April 06, 2008, 11:24:58 PM
namco is distinguished mentally-challenged.. square isnt
there's nothing distinguished mentally-challenged about SO4 being on 360.

SO is a good selling series here and 360 is a SW beast.
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Post by: y2kev on April 06, 2008, 11:29:56 PM
http://i32.tinypic.com/1i235g.png
 :lol :lol :lol

namco
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 07, 2008, 04:34:30 AM
namco is distinguished mentally-challenged.. square isnt
there's nothing distinguished mentally-challenged about SO4 being on 360.

SO is a good selling series here and 360 is a SW beast.

for shoote em ups, not jrpgs
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Post by: Jabberwocky on April 07, 2008, 04:39:07 AM
is it too late to ask for clean scans of all the VPDS pages?  :-\
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on April 07, 2008, 04:45:53 AM
namco is distinguished mentally-challenged.. square isnt
there's nothing distinguished mentally-challenged about SO4 being on 360.

SO is a good selling series here and 360 is a SW beast.

for shoote em ups, not jrpgs
LO sold pretty well here.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 07, 2008, 04:52:08 AM
200k is good now?

lo cost 30 million do make so they're not even getting their money back let alone making a profit if lo's done 400k worldwide which would be a very generous estimate
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Post by: calcifer on April 07, 2008, 06:04:39 AM
vesperia was set for 360 before it was proven to be a horrible system for jrpgs and i bet you namco is scrambling to get it ported to ps3 as we speak

so4 is ps3 exclusive so i dunno what you're talking about there

so far 4 or 5 jrpgs has been released on 360 and all bombed.. some more than others

do you seriously think it will continue to get jrpgs even when ps3 is outselling 360 everywhere? :lol

so4 will be the start of trend for jrpgs on ps3 and i think you both know it but are sad  :'(
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 07, 2008, 07:10:06 AM
more 360 games has bombed than ps3 games
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 07, 2008, 07:13:50 AM
going by namco's report average sales on ps3 is 162,000

only 34,000 on 360

average for ps2 is 170,000 which is almost the same as ps3

so ps3 is a much more viable platform than 360 ever will be and ps3 will only get better and better
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Mondain on April 07, 2008, 11:40:40 AM
calcifer, are you "mingeford wanksbury" on OA
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on April 07, 2008, 11:49:09 AM
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=734
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 07, 2008, 07:48:56 PM
Quote
they are BOTH distinguished mentally-challenged.

Square games on PS3 only is distinguished mentally-challenged
Namco games on X360 only is distinguished mentally-challenged.

The more these companies are run like fanboy factories and not like PROPER COMPANIES then they are all distinguished mentally-challenged.

Square's risk with FF13 comes from producing it for next-generation hardware at all.  Porting to 360 would only slightly mitigate that.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Oblivion on April 07, 2008, 08:34:59 PM
Didn't every hate SO3? Or at least think that it was mediocre? Why the excitement over this?
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Post by: y2kev on April 07, 2008, 08:37:10 PM
TO BEAT EA *WOOO*
YOU GOTTA BE *WOO* EA *struts*
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 07, 2008, 11:41:00 PM
Quote
oh i'm sure they are cursing the day they decided to move it to next gen.
SE want to Japan-EA. But to be EA, you got to BE EA.
If it uses electricity, put a friggen version out on it.

Nah, I think it was the right decision.  New numbered FFs are about advanced production values.  They can get their cash flow from the handheld spinoffs.

SE's strategy is a little different from EA's, instead of releasing the same game on multiple platforms, they create different games based on the same worldview for each platform.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: tiesto on April 07, 2008, 11:41:22 PM
Didn't every hate SO3? Or at least think that it was mediocre? Why the excitement over this?

'cuz SO1, 2, and many other of tri-Ace's games were so good...
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on April 07, 2008, 11:42:38 PM
Didn't every hate SO3? Or at least think that it was mediocre? Why the excitement over this?

WOW you are a cigarillo, let's count all the ways NINTENDO fucked up
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Error2k4 on April 08, 2008, 02:15:36 AM
Didn't every hate SO3? Or at least think that it was mediocre? Why the excitement over this?
game is flawed but I've put over 200 hours in it. I'm still playing it, must get more Battle Trophies.

I liked it a lot more than Radiata. I think SO1 SFC is the worst SO game, so hopefully SE brings the remake here.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Oblivion on April 08, 2008, 06:02:08 PM
Didn't every hate SO3? Or at least think that it was mediocre? Why the excitement over this?

WOW you are a cigarillo, let's count all the ways NINTENDO fucked up

I ain't never played any of the SO games and always heard negativity regarding the last one. So SHUT YER HOLE plz.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: pilonv1 on April 09, 2008, 10:06:24 PM
If Sony were really paying Sqaure they would have kept DQIX on PS2.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: y2kev on April 09, 2008, 10:08:16 PM
Nomura is a big PS fanboy.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: y2kev on April 09, 2008, 11:11:48 PM
Quote
Nomura is a big PS fanboy.


that's the thing though - when you are a listed company with a duty to maximise returns to your shareholders, what place does fanboyism have?





are we talking about the japanese here
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: pilonv1 on April 09, 2008, 11:17:06 PM
Quote
Nomura is a big PS fanboy.


that's the thing though - when you are a listed company with a duty to maximise returns to your shareholders, what place does fanboyism have?

maybe he's a gaffer

you could at least be like Valve where they are PC fanboys but they understand that consoles aren't going away and need to be thrown a bone once in a while.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 09, 2008, 11:20:40 PM
Quote
Nomura is a big PS fanboy.


that's the thing though - when you are a listed company with a duty to maximise returns to your shareholders, what place does fanboyism have?





are we talking about the japanese here

Yeah, I have a feeling that national pride and that continued sense of xenophobism in Japan (Sony and Nintendo) gets in the way of maxmizing returns.

But, things are a lot better than they were last generation. There are actual SE titles in development for the 360...
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 10, 2008, 12:41:51 AM
The decision on the hardware for FF13 and Versus was made back in 2005.  Square doesn't have much history of multiplatform development and, as I said, the actual gains from a cross-platform release wouldn't be huge.  I doubt hardware "fanboyism" was a factor at all, it's just that working on multiple versions of a game simultaneously isn't something they're used to doing.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 29, 2008, 04:34:38 AM
Quote from: OXM
Us: Infinite Undiscovery aside – what tri-Ace game is your favorite? What RPGs, outside of tri-Ace’s, did you really like?

Ogawa: Star Ocean 4 [tri-Ace’s upcoming PS3 RPG] is my number one recommendation (laughs).

Quote
Quazar:
In all seriousness, why did you guys print that Ryan?

Ryan_OXM:
We didn't. The Ogawa interview was a web-only complement to the print article.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

spoiler (click to show/hide)
jonnyram suicide watch
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Post by: calcifer on April 29, 2008, 06:51:30 AM
bump

i demand tears
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 29, 2008, 06:52:30 AM
not only is he saying he prefers the ps3 exclusive over the 360 exclusive in an interview about the 360 exclusive for a 360 only magazine but the ps3 looks so much better graphically :lol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 29, 2008, 09:07:42 AM
jonnyram should really take me off ignore

it just makes him look stupid
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 29, 2008, 09:19:44 AM
stop acting like you two are teh insidurz just because you live in japan :lol

i probably know more than both of you combined
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 29, 2008, 09:22:51 AM
hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.





hurry, dcharlie you're late for your dinner with kojima! i bet he will tell you all about his secret 360 project!
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: evilol on April 29, 2008, 11:09:20 AM
you can smell the fear from the xcunts in the gaf thread.  :lol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: tiesto on April 29, 2008, 11:46:48 AM
If this is PS3 exclusive, this'll just give me the impetus to buy a PS3... I seriously am that much a fan of tri-Ace.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: tiesto on April 29, 2008, 12:58:45 PM
I seem to remember sfags saying they don't need Star Ocean 4 because the third one "sucked so badly".

Why the change of tune?

Same reason xfags used to constantly smite Japanese-origin games (especially RPGs) until the releases of the Mistwalker games. System war bullshit. Best way to do things is buy a system if it has the games you like on it, or if you are poor and can't afford more than one system, keep your trap shut.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 29, 2008, 04:40:03 PM
I enjoyed SO2, but hated SO3 with a passion. I'm willing to give SO4 a shot.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 30, 2008, 05:10:52 AM
it is

square has a bit higher standards than ms when it comes to games sales so 100k wont do here
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 30, 2008, 07:59:04 AM
i guess it makes sense to put it on wii as well as ps3

:bow crystal tools :bow2
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MoxManiac on April 30, 2008, 09:00:08 AM
Wow this shits all over SO3
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: calcifer on April 30, 2008, 10:41:28 AM
the fact crystal tools is now Wii compliant should be screaming in peoples faces where the Japofail industry is going.

NOW WII COMPLIANT should be a wake up call. FF13 will be the last single platform game SE bother with.

They want to be the Japanese EA - and you'll see them acting like the western EA more and more over the next few years.


a wiis3 future in japan would be the best thing ever
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 30, 2008, 11:26:04 AM
SE already has their own multiplatform strategy which revolves around creating DIFFERENT (but related) games for each platform, not releasing the same game on every platform.  There may well be a lot of PS3/X360 dual platform releases since they're similar, but expecting them to extend that to Wii is ridiculous.  smh
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 30, 2008, 11:41:28 AM
How do you reuse art assets across (what are essentially) generational boundaries?  Maybe you could use them as prerendered backgrounds or sprites, or FMVs (a couple of Square's GBA/DS games already do this, Ninja Gaiden DS is another example).  Which actually lends itself to creating different games more than porting the same game.

Or you can do like FFCC WiiWare and reuse Gamecube (or PS2?) assets instead.  (And still make a different game!)
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 30, 2008, 12:31:22 PM
 ::) ::) ::)

from talk about FFCC WiiWare:
Quote
"In our current project, we knew we couldn't use our standard model. So we basically had to go back to the basics." First, he says, they decided on a target price and memory size, and then went back to some older assets for ideas. Once a basic pipeline was established, new assets could be added.

Development was scheduled for seven months, with a maximum of eight people. This time, the team started with the game concept rather than with visual assets. It's about building a world rather than exploring one, so the need for extensive concept art and new assets was minimized. "Unless you can show something that's truly compelling, we think it's better to leave things to the imagination," Shiraishi suggested.

Note: this shows creating a NEW game for a different platform using existing assets can be done efficiently.  I doubt porting an existing game from PS3 or X360 would have even been much cheaper.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 30, 2008, 12:38:37 PM
360-PS3-PC makes sense, porting the same game to Wii doesn't.  Releasing a separate, different game on Wii that maybe shares assets somehow may make sense.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on June 10, 2008, 04:00:25 AM
bump for lulz

Enjoy Star Ocean 4, guys :rock
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Enl on June 10, 2008, 04:21:14 AM
so4 is at the very least ps3 time exclusive

only a fool would think otherwise

 :dur
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Himu on June 10, 2008, 04:39:38 AM
owned
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 10, 2008, 05:38:59 AM
So SO for 360? WOAH, theres going to be alot of red faces on gaf :lol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on June 10, 2008, 06:43:56 AM
i am sorry for doubting you, emperor dcharlie.

 :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: onsedatives on June 10, 2008, 08:45:46 AM
calcifer has been fucking owned.  :lol

Here you go, pals.

Infinite Undiscovery
(http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/iu1246.jpg.xs.jpg) (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs226&d=08145&f=iu1246.jpg)(http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/iu2171.jpg.xs.jpg) (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs226&d=08145&f=iu2171.jpg)(http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/iu3349.jpg.xs.jpg) (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs226&d=08145&f=iu3349.jpg)(http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/iu4443.jpg.xs.jpg) (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs226&d=08145&f=iu4443.jpg)

Star Ocean 4
(http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/so1652.jpg.xs.jpg) (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs226&d=08145&f=so1652.jpg)(http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/so2942.jpg.xs.jpg) (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs226&d=08145&f=so2942.jpg)(http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/so3922.jpg.xs.jpg) (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs226&d=08145&f=so3922.jpg)(http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/so4874.jpg.xs.jpg) (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs226&d=08145&f=so4874.jpg)


If any of that is in-game... :O
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on June 10, 2008, 08:48:55 AM
i think they are all cg shots but...

(http://i30.tinypic.com/29avaiw.jpg)

i see jaggies on the sword.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on June 10, 2008, 09:05:31 AM
(http://i30.tinypic.com/29ks6l2.jpg)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/30ldutv.jpg)

(http://i31.tinypic.com/mwwqps.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/34e9bow.jpg)
(http://i26.tinypic.com/20r7j7l.jpg)
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: onsedatives on June 10, 2008, 09:14:28 AM
calcifer has been fucking owned.  :lol

If any of that is in-game... :O

Then what?

It doesn't look impressive.
Looks impressive to me.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: GilloD on June 10, 2008, 09:18:17 AM
(http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20080610/so4_10.jpg)

This shot has me psyched.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on June 10, 2008, 09:21:02 AM
so4 is at the very least ps3 time exclusive

only a fool would think otherwise

Oh my.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 10, 2008, 09:25:11 AM
:rofl Calcifer is gone though, or maybe his ghost still haunts the halls of this forum :is a mystery
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 10, 2008, 10:10:47 AM
A lot of bitter tears.

I'm just excited for a SO4.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MrSingh on June 10, 2008, 10:23:32 AM
calcifuckowned!
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on June 10, 2008, 10:41:35 AM
(http://i31.tinypic.com/2u948jm.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2w4wln8.jpg)
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on June 10, 2008, 10:45:31 AM
i don't like the excessive bloom in the first shot.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: CurseoftheGods on June 10, 2008, 10:46:31 AM
Oh, man. This game looks so awesome.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 10, 2008, 10:48:19 AM
Just to get everyone in the mood, let's relive two of the best intros in videogame history:

[youtube=425,350]o_Cb01zsIv4[/youtube]

[youtube=425,350]NpEN3b9jdbY[/youtube]
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: thekavorka on June 10, 2008, 10:59:53 AM
i've never played star ocean before. are there random battles? if there is, no sale.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 10, 2008, 11:41:13 AM
i've never played star ocean before. are there random battles? if there is, no sale.

The old ones were random battles.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: hyp on June 10, 2008, 11:56:55 AM
holy fucking shit that looks sooooo good. 

:bow 360 rpg king :bow2
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: siamesedreamer on June 10, 2008, 12:02:41 PM
 :bow SO4  :bow2
 :bow 360  :bow2
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: tiesto on June 10, 2008, 02:47:17 PM
i've never played star ocean before. are there random battles? if there is, no sale.

Star Ocean 1 and 2 had random battles, 3 did not.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Beezy on June 10, 2008, 03:21:28 PM
:rofl Calcifer is gone though, or maybe his ghost still haunts the halls of this forum :is a mystery
evilol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Third on June 10, 2008, 03:42:24 PM
Looks awesome.

X360 king of jrpg's reconfirmed.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Crushed on June 10, 2008, 03:43:51 PM
:rofl Calcifer is gone though, or maybe his ghost still haunts the halls of this forum :is a mystery

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/MastahCrushed/Emote/emot-iiam.gif)
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 10, 2008, 03:45:35 PM
i've never played star ocean before. are there random battles? if there is, no sale.

SO3 had monsters on the map but would warp to a Battle Area. If you don't dig regular JRPG battles (like Active Time Battles) you'll probably like Star Oceans more action based battle system.

:rofl Calcifer is gone though, or maybe his ghost still haunts the halls of this forum :is a mystery

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/MastahCrushed/Emote/emot-iiam.gif)

 :o
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Bildi on June 10, 2008, 08:46:26 PM
I never got around to Star Ocean last gen - are the characters annoying like FFX or good like Lost Odyssey?

The main character in the pics looks a bit androgynous-whiny-girly-man.  Otherwise it looks very nice.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Jansen on June 10, 2008, 08:58:27 PM
fayt is extremely annoying.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Bildi on June 10, 2008, 09:48:19 PM
His name is Fayt?  Oh dear.

I guess with JRPGs the chance of getting annoying whiny teen leads is fairly high, but I'll try to keep an open mind.  Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on June 10, 2008, 10:10:00 PM
His name is Fayt?  Oh dear.

I guess with JRPGs the chance of getting annoying whiny teen leads is fairly high, but I'll try to keep an open mind.  Thanks for the info.

Nah dude hit up Star Ocean 2, it's tight
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Brehvolution on June 10, 2008, 11:17:43 PM
The whole thing is a stab in the back for Sony. The Playstation family made SE what it is today. SMH
This is reminiscent of how EA treated the PS3 after many successful madden games booned off of the PS2.

SE = moneyhat whores confirmed.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Narag on June 10, 2008, 11:20:44 PM
The whole thing is a stab in the back for Sony. The Playstation family made SE what it is today. SMH
This is reminiscent of how EA treated the PS3 after many successful madden games booned off of the PS2.

SE = moneyhat whores confirmed.

Are you sure its not due to install base issues and the necessity of profit to continue being the SE it is today?
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on June 10, 2008, 11:24:12 PM
The whole thing is a stab in the back for Sony. The Playstation family made SE what it is today. SMH
This is reminiscent of how EA treated the PS3 after many successful madden games booned off of the PS2.

SE = moneyhat whores confirmed.

uh... the only games that sold well are Final Fantasy games, lol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 10, 2008, 11:26:46 PM
The whole thing is a stab in the back for Sony. The Playstation family made SE what it is today. SMH
This is reminiscent of how EA treated the PS3 after many successful madden games booned off of the PS2.

SE = moneyhat whores confirmed.

:lol

 :spin :dur :hans1
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Brehvolution on June 10, 2008, 11:53:03 PM
The whole thing is a stab in the back for Sony. The Playstation family made SE what it is today. SMH
This is reminiscent of how EA treated the PS3 after many successful madden games booned off of the PS2.

SE = moneyhat whores confirmed.

uh... the only games that sold well are Final Fantasy games, lol

Is that not good enough? FF7-12 have spanned the last 10 year by time 13 comes out. Even DQ was huge because of the playstation family.
 :hans1
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Jansen on June 10, 2008, 11:56:31 PM
stop crying like a moron. you sound like a nintard.

now that it looks like IU isn't going to be 60fps i don't know how much owning my face tri-ace is going to be doing with so4.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 10, 2008, 11:59:51 PM
The whole thing is a stab in the back for Nintendo. The Nintendo family made Square what it is today. SMH
This is reminiscent of how Enix treated the N64 after many successful Dragon Quest games booned off of the SNES.

Square = moneyhat whores confirmed.

I know I've read this somewhere before...
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on June 11, 2008, 12:03:17 AM
The whole thing is a stab in the back for Sony. The Playstation family made SE what it is today. SMH
This is reminiscent of how EA treated the PS3 after many successful madden games booned off of the PS2.

SE = moneyhat whores confirmed.

uh... the only games that sold well are Final Fantasy games, lol

Is that not good enough? FF7-12 have spanned the last 10 year by time 13 comes out. Even DQ was huge because of the playstation family.
 :hans1

Ok that still doesnt help your argument :lol

This game -isnt- Final Fantasy, or Dragon Quest - neither of which are appearing on the Xbox 360 console
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: CHOW CHOW on June 11, 2008, 12:27:23 AM
Why does it matter if an RPG is 60 fps or not?  what the fuck
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Bildi on June 11, 2008, 12:38:48 AM
His name is Fayt?  Oh dear.

I guess with JRPGs the chance of getting annoying whiny teen leads is fairly high, but I'll try to keep an open mind.  Thanks for the info.

Nah dude hit up Star Ocean 2, it's tight

I might try a rental - I've banned myself from buying previous gen games because of my excessive previous gen backlog.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on June 11, 2008, 12:52:31 AM
Quote
uh... the only games that sold well are Final Fantasy games, lol

? SaGa Frontier, Xenogears, Parasite Eve, Kingdom Hearts all = million sellers
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on June 11, 2008, 12:55:53 AM
Quote
uh... the only games that sold well are Final Fantasy games, lol

? SaGa Frontier, Xenogears, Parasite Eve, Kingdom Hearts all = million sellers

Nobody cares about those series except distinguished mentally-challenged fellows like you
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 11, 2008, 12:59:53 AM
so many sore butts.  love it. 

Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: T234 on June 11, 2008, 01:04:21 AM
Only two good games in that list, recursive.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: demi on June 11, 2008, 01:06:01 AM
zomg Xenogears sold a million back in 1998, it's totally relevant :lol
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 11, 2008, 10:05:37 AM
The whole thing is a stab in the back for Sony. The Playstation family made SE what it is today. SMH
This is reminiscent of how EA treated the PS3 after many successful madden games booned off of the PS2.

SE = moneyhat whores confirmed.

uh... the only games that sold well are Final Fantasy games, lol

Is that not good enough? FF7-12 have spanned the last 10 year by time 13 comes out. Even DQ was huge because of the playstation family.

 :hans1


Are you impersonating 14 year old Nintendo fans from 1997 or are you serious?

It's fair to say that FF really came into its own on PS1 because FMV propelled its popularity to new heights. But PlayStation has done jack shit for DQ. It was huge before those platforms, the only thing PS brought were slower releases. And Game Boy did more for DQ's worldwide presence than PS family did.

Meanwhile like demi said, if SE wants to cultivate a new franchise they can do it wherever they want. This isn't an FF7 remake.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: Jansen on June 11, 2008, 03:30:48 PM
Why does it matter if an RPG is 60 fps or not?  what the fuck

fluidity

if this was a turnbased rpg it wouldn't matter, but it's not.

have you ever played a tri-ace game?
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2008, 10:49:25 PM
(http://i29.tinypic.com/ifxz5w.jpg)
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 02, 2008, 11:01:22 PM
I just think that it would be cool if the main characters were at least like...18. I mean, why kids? Fuck kids man.
Title: Re: STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE
Post by: cool breeze on July 03, 2008, 12:04:02 AM
Why does it matter if an RPG is 60 fps or not?  what the fuck

Star Ocean games are action RPGs.