THE BORE

General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 06:44:21 PM

Title: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 06:44:21 PM: I acquired Frances the Mute last night, as well as Muse's Absolution; I started listening to Frances around 1AM and fell asleep shortly after, mainly because I was tired from studying. Now I'm listening to it at full mental capacity and I like what I've heard so far

BUT

Why the hell does every song have to end with 5 minutes of unnecessary NOISE. Even as a Pink Floyd fan this is baffling to me. Echoes is like 20min long for instance but never resorts to the type of random noises these guys start playing at the end of their stuff. Ok, I am listening to a song titled "Miranda that Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore" (for whatever reason...I can rarely decipher this man's voice). The song is 13 minutes long but that last 4 minutes consists of a trumpet randomly playing out of tune, some wind, and some faint crooning.

I haven't come across a bad song yet but jeez, these guys need a producer who can sit them down and beat this shit out of them

Tool fans may be interested in the philosophical intent of Viginti Tres, but it just sounds like some fucking wind to ME :punch
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Tauntaun on April 24, 2008, 06:47:11 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 06:44:21 PM
Why the hell does every song have to end with 5 minutes of unnecessary NOISE.

Because they're pretentious wankers.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: demi on April 24, 2008, 06:48:04 PM: :lol

Yeah, I don't get them either. I only heard like three songs

* Roulette Dares
* Inertiatic ESP
* This Apperatus Must Be Unearthed
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 06:51:20 PM: Quote from: Tauntaun on April 24, 2008, 06:47:11 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 06:44:21 PM
Why the hell does every song have to end with 5 minutes of unnecessary NOISE.

Because they're pretentious wankers.

Apparently so. I mean, each person on this album clearly is a master of his instrument...but often it doesn't seem to blend together well. Perhaps too ambitious I suppose, definitely not enough reason or order. Which is what a good producer could help with.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Robo on April 24, 2008, 06:53:05 PM: Frances the Mute is terrible. De-Loused in the Comatorium does basically everything the band was formed to do and to a degree that they haven't been able to surpass since.

At the Drive-In are superior in every manner. Pick up Relationship of Command.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 24, 2008, 06:56:18 PM: I really only enjoy Inertiatic ESP. Awesome song.

But unfortunately, the Mars Volta are godawful. One good song can't save them.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Powerslave on April 24, 2008, 06:57:24 PM: Quote from: demi on April 24, 2008, 06:48:04 PM
:lol

Yeah, I don't get them either. I only heard like three songs

* Roulette Dares
* Inertiatic ESP
* This Apperatus Must Be Unearthed

jesus christ look at these fucking titles. Total douchebags.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 06:57:39 PM: Dunno, I like The Widow and uh, the spanish song. And the first song on this album; spelling out the names to these songs is too much of a chore
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Robo on April 24, 2008, 07:01:33 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 06:57:39 PM
Dunno, I like The Widow and uh, the spanish song. And the first song on this album; spelling out the names to these songs is too much of a chore

Scrap that shit album and grab one of the other, more song-oriented ones.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Powerslave on April 24, 2008, 07:03:21 PM: Radiohead has weird songtitles too. It just feels too forced when you actively choose weird word combinations. Douchebag extravagant.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Powerslave on April 24, 2008, 07:06:55 PM: typical Radiohead songtitles:

- Walking with Boxing Gloves in a Factory
- How in the Moon Argpehstu
- Plants on the Ceiling (With No Engine)
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: TVC15 on April 24, 2008, 07:10:22 PM: Quote from: RoboJ on April 24, 2008, 06:53:05 PM
Frances the Mute is terrible. De-Loused in the Comatorium does basically everything the band was formed to do and to a degree that they haven't been able to surpass since.

At the Drive-In are superior in every manner. Pick up Relationship of Command.

+1
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Powerslave on April 24, 2008, 07:15:20 PM: FA I actually like Radiohead :rofl

It's just that they often have weird song names.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Vizzys on April 24, 2008, 07:27:05 PM: cat on the grill
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on April 24, 2008, 09:05:50 PM: Never heard of them, I just listened to a single on iTunes and they sound like little girly rock. GTFO
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: TVC15 on April 24, 2008, 09:14:21 PM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on April 24, 2008, 09:05:50 PM
Never heard of them, I just listened to a single on iTunes and they sound like little girly rock. GTFO

You must have picked a non-representative song. I'm not a fan of anything but their first album, but they are basically the opposite of girly. They are obsessed with excess. Lots of guitars, lots of vocals, lots of effects, lots of production, lots of loudness, lots of screaming. They try to do the Floydian space jam thing mixed with post-hardcore sensibilities, and it just comes out a mess.

I still give their first album (and EP) a pass. Everything else has been a mess. ATDI is one of my favorite acts of the 90s-00s, though.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on April 24, 2008, 09:17:09 PM: I listed to Wax Simlcru or something. Im not a music person though, so my ears are untrained.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: TVC15 on April 24, 2008, 09:19:31 PM: Quote from: BrandNew on April 24, 2008, 06:56:18 PM
I really only enjoy Inertiatic ESP. Awesome song.

[youtube=425,350]8cdSiAgz1XU[/youtube]

I like Roulette Dares, too, a lot.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: drew on April 24, 2008, 09:28:41 PM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on April 24, 2008, 09:05:50 PM
Never heard of them, I just listened to a single on iTunes and they sound like little girly rock. GTFO

Lol, the mars volta isn't a band that you can judge off a single. Although I admit I'm embarrassed now for having liked Frances the Mute back when it came out. I blame weed and Robitussin.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: TVC15 on April 24, 2008, 09:35:02 PM: I really really liked the Tremulant EP (pre-Deloused), but I was kinda let down by Deloused when it came out. While Tremulant was indicative of what the album would sound like, I think running time was a factor in my initial disappointment. The EP was like 20 minutes, and very satisfying, whereas the album was like an hour long, wearing out its welcome. Plus, the previously silly lyrics took a dive into the silly deep end.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 10:21:58 PM: I'll download Deloused then. Any opinions on their last two albums?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
btw, Absolution thread coming soon!
[close]
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: TVC15 on April 24, 2008, 10:26:15 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 10:21:58 PM
I'll download Deloused then. Any opinions on their last two albums?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
btw, Absolution thread coming soon!
[close]

I can't make it through anything they've done since the first album. The first album is definitely indulgent, but everything they've released since redefines what indulgent is. Deloused, it at least seems like they were trying to make a refined, well-done, prog-influenced album. Everything since then has felt like the album making process was pressing the record button, playing impromptu for 70 minutes, and then adding UFO sound effects afterwards. The first album seemed like it took work. The other albums just seem like jam sessions of people that think they don't have to bother actually crafting their songs.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 10:30:26 PM: Yea this is really indulgant to say the least. Sometimes it works - I like L'Via L'Viaquez, Cygus...Vismund Cygnus (wtf lol), uh The Widow, and most of Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore

....

but then this 30 minute song just ruins everything. It's broken down into segments but jeez, what the fuck. Mars Volta is the musical equilivent of Peter Jackson in the editing room
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: TVC15 on April 24, 2008, 10:36:09 PM: Have you listened to ATDI at all? I'd suggest checking out Relationship of Command and Vaya if you already haven't.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2008, 10:42:02 PM: Nope, I've never heard ATDI. Might as well check them out.

Hm Rick Rubin produced De-Loused? Now I'm really interested in seeing how it differs from Frances
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Eric P on April 24, 2008, 10:47:14 PM: omfg, what happened to No Age?

their new albums is blargh
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 25, 2008, 12:26:44 AM: ATDI :bow :bow
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 25, 2008, 12:36:11 AM: I really like Deloused, and then just parts of songs on their past two albums. I think I like one song on...umm...whatever the fuck the name of their last album was.

I went back and listened to ATDI and really didn't dig them at all. I just don't like that vocal style.

BTW, fuck you PD.
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: Robo on April 25, 2008, 12:50:00 AM: Quote from: BrandNew on April 25, 2008, 12:26:44 AM
ATDI :bow :bow

[youtube=425,350]kBUtkPrANRs[/youtube]

:bow :bow :rock :rock :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: Someone needs to explain to Mars Volta how to END A FUCKING SONG THANK YOU
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 25, 2008, 12:52:28 AM: Pretty rad.

I haven't listened to Sparta ever, are they any good? Figure they're a bit more...conventional than the Mars Volta is.