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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Borys on May 12, 2008, 06:58:09 AM

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Post by: Borys on May 12, 2008, 06:58:09 AM
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Post by: MCD on May 12, 2008, 06:59:38 AM
shitbin this garbage.
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Post by: pilonv1 on May 12, 2008, 07:00:15 AM
:lol giant glowing bear
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Post by: Vizzys on May 12, 2008, 07:06:18 AM
clusterfuck
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Post by: Tieno on May 12, 2008, 09:25:50 AM
They should fire whoever is making screenshots. Way too many and some are so unflattering and from unnatural positions they make the game look bad. There are some decent and good ones in there too.
Only make extreme close-ups or from unnatural positions when it makes the game look good.

I dig the customizable armor!
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Post by: MCD on May 12, 2008, 09:28:17 AM
these are coop screenshots, image quality is probably lower.
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Post by: Darunia on May 12, 2008, 09:36:28 AM
what we need... is a demo of this
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Post by: Darunia on May 12, 2008, 09:40:02 AM
I know. I meant soon. Dyack said something about May, that'd better be true. co-op demo would be sweet
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Post by: Tieno on May 12, 2008, 09:47:36 AM
Thought he said the demo would hit just before the game. And we still dont have a date for that do we?  :'(
I think it was announced to be Q1 08 back in august 07.
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Post by: MCD on May 12, 2008, 09:49:33 AM
Dyack promised a demo.
:lol :lol
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on May 12, 2008, 09:50:42 AM
It's already Q2. lol
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Post by: Darunia on May 12, 2008, 09:53:27 AM
and on the last egm live he appeared on he implied that a demo/release would be coming 'sooner than you expected' or something along those lines. we live on hope right dyack
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Post by: huckleberry on May 12, 2008, 09:58:31 AM
The best thing this game has going for it is the name. 
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Post by: Kestastrophe on May 12, 2008, 10:04:23 AM
The graphics are looking rough, but I'll be picking this one up since it is a diablo type RPG.
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Post by: Raban on May 12, 2008, 12:14:45 PM
Where the fuck has art direction gone this gen? It's been wiped off the face of the earth. Barely any games have real art anymore, they just throw the shit in middleware and that's it. smh
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Post by: MCD on May 12, 2008, 12:15:48 PM
Where the fuck has art direction gone this gen? It's been wiped off the face of the earth. Barely any games have real art anymore, they just throw the shit in middleware and that's it. smh
assassin's creed my love.
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Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on May 12, 2008, 12:20:29 PM
When it's all said and done, I still think this is going to be a lot of fun to play.  I've liked everything SK has put out in the past (yeah even Twin Snakes) and I've got no reason to believe that this won't be equally satisfying.
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Post by: Kestastrophe on May 12, 2008, 12:25:07 PM
I've liked everything SK has put out in the past (yeah even Twin Snakes)
Undeservedly bad reputation. Twin Snakes is still the best MGS game that I've played (I've played through 1 and 3).
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Post by: Darunia on May 12, 2008, 12:28:47 PM
this'll probably be one of those games that shines (read: will only be fun) in co-op. That's how I'll be playing it anyway
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Post by: MCD on May 12, 2008, 12:31:57 PM
i said this once and i will say it again, i had fun with kingdom under fire: circle of doom 4 coop mode, so this won't disappoint me at all.
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Post by: Raban on May 12, 2008, 12:32:16 PM
Where the fuck has art direction gone this gen? It's been wiped off the face of the earth. Barely any games have real art anymore, they just throw the shit in middleware and that's it. smh
assassin's creed my love.

Barely, but you're right.
Title: Re: TWO HUMAN Pics.
Post by: MCD on May 12, 2008, 12:35:11 PM
you are not a masochist yet.
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Post by: TVC15 on May 12, 2008, 12:41:29 PM
I'd love to get hyped for this game, but why bother?  Silicon Knights has never made a good, solid game.  Blood Omen was more than a decade ago, Eternal Darkness had a pretty nice presentation, but it was busted to the point of unfunness, and Twin Snakes was just a lol, though I am not sure who gets the full blame for that.
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Post by: MCD on May 12, 2008, 12:44:27 PM
you are not a masochist yet.

I played Norath, I'm close enough.

I put over 70hrs in to that game.
good.

I'd love to get hyped for this game, but why bother?  Silicon Knights has never made a good, solid game.  Blood Omen was more than a decade ago, Eternal Darkness had a pretty nice presentation, but it was busted to the point of unfunness, and Twin Snakes was just a lol, though I am not sure who gets the full blame for that.
the game won't be good on it's own, 4 coop however...
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 12, 2008, 12:51:21 PM
It remains to be seen if this pisses on Norse mythology and cultural heritage with a stronger or weaker beam than your standard Japanese "Valkyrie Odin of The Fenrir Crystal" crap, but so far it doesn't look promising.

the game won't be good on it's own, 4 coop however...

That argument seems awfully familiar.
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Post by: MCD on May 12, 2008, 12:53:39 PM
halo 3? lol
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Post by: TVC15 on May 12, 2008, 01:02:09 PM
It remains to be seen if this pisses on Norse mythology and cultural heritage with a stronger or weaker beam than your standard Japanese "Valkyrie Odin of The Fenrir Crystal" crap, but so far it doesn't look promising.

I remember Dyack making a big deal about the epic story and all that.  And then they showed the video of that cutscene in the bar that looked so terrible.  Dyack's standards for "good" are waaaaaaaay lower than anyone else's.
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Post by: TVC15 on May 12, 2008, 01:15:05 PM
I've never played Twin Snakes, isnt it just a remake? How can that suck unless the original material is shit?

It's a crappy remake.  The points have been gone over again and again.  Importing MGS2's moves without redesigning the original game was distinguished mentally-challenged.  That's the big thing.

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Also I've enjoyed ED, the gameplay wasnt 100% tight, but the overall product was fun.

The gameplay was broken, and you like, couldn't actually die if you had half a brain.  The game's most intriguing feature, the sanity effects, barely came up.  The argument from fans is BU BU BU YOU CAN SEE THEM IF YOU WANT TO BY LETTING YOUR BAR DRAIN.  So I could see the game's marquee feature if I try to play the game not as intended?  Huh?
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Post by: MrAngryFace on May 12, 2008, 01:16:39 PM
argh, they need art help
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 12, 2008, 01:16:59 PM
If you guys are going to base your like for the game on how close it follows Norse Mythology, you shouldn't even be playing games.

Give me a break. Norse mythology is, according to Dyack, central to the game. It's not even a matter of how close it follows it, I'm more interested in seeing how its emulated. If that's not of importance, then you had better take that up with Dyack.
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Post by: hyp on May 12, 2008, 01:33:47 PM
i'll end up picking this up despite all the message board hate.  i love dungeon hacks.  penis dyack and his horde of cultists be damned.  :rock
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 12, 2008, 02:13:05 PM
Read a book, Kosma.

This game looks like garbage.  People that get excited for this are insane.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on May 12, 2008, 02:20:56 PM
I am keeping an eye on this game. I am hoping the online mode is well-designed and Diablo-esque.

Eternal Darkness was horrible, though. I still can't fathom why it garnered such high reviews and hype from critics. It was a 7 game at its very best.
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Post by: GilloD on May 12, 2008, 02:21:33 PM
Daikatana 2: Eletric Two-aloo.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 12, 2008, 02:52:50 PM
Watch out, he'll ban you.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 12, 2008, 02:56:03 PM
First of all, I'm probably the only one here who has actually played the game at one point - and it was awful then.

The art direction is piss poor and Silicon Knights has no track record.  This is like getting excited for a Uwe Boll movie, but at least those as entertaining on a pure trainwreck level.
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Post by: Mupepe on May 12, 2008, 03:01:15 PM
game looks like ass.  day 1.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 12, 2008, 03:04:34 PM
Yeah, I was there the strength of men failed... when Silicon Knights demonstrated an early build of the game at E3 a couple of years ago.  I'm pretty lenient on early builds because I understand the natural progression of game development.  That said, it was the worst demonstration I ever had the honor of playing.  Really.  It was such a colossal failure, that while I'm sure that two overhauled engines later, the game is actually playable - I have no faith in any team that parades out that kind of fecal matter on the show floor.

I think Dyack is able to trick a bunch of fanboys by throwing out words like "Diablo" and "skill trees", but what has this man done for you that merits anticipating this game?  His track record is puke.  The fact that he had the audacity to sue Epic over that Unreal Engine debacle proves that his team is worthless.  The art direction is something that I'd expect out of a fanmade PC game.

I'd love to be proven wrong and I'll try any XBL demo with an objective mind, but the fans salivating over this game just blows my mind.
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Post by: Bloodwake on May 12, 2008, 03:08:03 PM
Read a book, Kosma.

This game looks like garbage.  People that get excited for this are insane.

This may be a first, but


AGREED

Avoid like the plague.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 12, 2008, 03:12:03 PM
As someone who has done videogame previews for a living before - trusting previews is hysterical.  You realize, that as a games "journalist" you say almost nothing negative in a preview?  I was told point blank by my editors to regurgitate the press release for the game I was covering, throw in some quotes and fancy words.  Tada!  Instant preview.

If anything, as a fan of the medium, the best way to figure out if anything is going to be good is to look at gameplay footage, screens and carefully dissect the P.R. to find the gameplay elements that might be intriguing.  Everything else is just folks trying to peddle their wares.
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Post by: Kestastrophe on May 12, 2008, 03:12:41 PM
That said, it was the worst demonstration I ever had the honor of playing.  Really.  It was such a colossal failure
Wow. I thought that the footage shown was unimpressive, but I never would have guessed that it was that bad. Ouch.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 12, 2008, 03:15:01 PM
The framerate made it look like a slideshow, the environments were barren and when enemies did appear, the framerate died.  The animation was abysmal.  The art direction was slightly worse than it is now.  It was just awful.
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 12, 2008, 03:16:29 PM
First of all, I'm probably the only one here who has actually played the game at one point - and it was awful then.

The art direction is piss poor and Silicon Knights has no track record.  This is like getting excited for a Uwe Boll movie, but at least those as entertaining on a pure trainwreck level.

You played it at that horrid E3 presentation?

If so, fair enough. But since then, every publication who played it had nothing but good things to say about the game.

I still think people hate on this game with no reason to.

Don't they always? Of course, I've been accused of doing the same, which is complete bullshit as I've always had an argument to go along with the "hate". You may disagree with the level of importance that I place on the story and setting aspect of the game, but that to me is going to be the make or break point. I can accept a combat "look and feel" that runs counter to the "berserker" idea, but the story has to be something a notch above the common sci-fi crap blended with bits and pieces of mythology to actually match what Denis himself has chosen to hype about his game. Of course, that has also changed quite a bit; remember when he was all about the combat? Now it's something we shouldn't expect greatness from because, hey, it's more of a Diablo style game. Right.

As someone who has done videogame previews for a living before - trusting previews is hysterical.  You realize, that as a games "journalist" you say almost nothing negative in a preview?  I was told point blank by my editors to regurgitate the press release for the game I was covering, throw in some quotes and fancy words.  Tada!  Instant preview.

Wasn't Matt Assman, the self-proclaimed SK fantard, their favored "journalist" for a while? They'd have these hilariously pretentious and "serious" round-table previews, with Matt really respecting Dyack and the gang, and really getting what Too Human was all about.

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Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 12, 2008, 03:21:47 PM
Previews have been positive, there are lots of features in the game worth being excited about...

so what do you have to hate about the game?

I already told you, barring a complete turnover of the entire staff, nothing will forgive what went out on that show floor.  The art direction is still horrible.  Latest footage had archaic animations to boot.

And I just told you why I never trust previews.  I used to be on the payroll for Imagine at one point.  I never trust previews.  They are paid to tell you it is awesome, no matter what - especially if they need to keep Microsoft happy so they can get exclusives on the stuff folks actually care about, like Gears of War 2.  Why would I care if Preview A or Preview B said the game looks fun when I've actually played it at one point and can look at the screens/footage and SEE that it's garbage.

Dyack can implement all the features he wants - who cares.  He hasn't been able to make a good game in forever and a day.

So I'm supposed to discount the fact that I played the game, the developer's poor track record, the awful art direction, mediocre visuals, awful animation and my personal experience in the industry because IGN or GameSpot told us it looks cool?  Fuck that noise.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 12, 2008, 03:24:03 PM
And look, after basically stealing Microsoft's money, if Dyack manages to churn out a decent Diablo clone, I'll be the first to say so.  I'm not saying I know what the end product will be, but I will say that anticipating this title is mind boggling.
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 12, 2008, 03:29:44 PM
And its fine that to you, you need a good story to enjoy games, but how many of the best selling games out have good stories? Gears of War? Army of Two? Most people don't give a shit as long as the game has something that catches them.

It's damned near not even about a good story at this point. I just want something that does justice to the source material. Brutal combat is seemingly out, what with everything being a matter of cling clang ROBOTRON 3000 blah, but maybe there's a worthwhile tale there. I'm more than a little bit tired of seeing developers approach a rich mythos and make it less than its raw form, and hopefully SK can actually do better.

And really, if its not story we're supposed to be interested, then what it is? Hack and slash gameplay, without context? I don't get it. I'm not the one who has been talking about the importance of the story, the settings and the mythology it is supposedly based on, nor did I originally compare the game to various high profile action games. Dyack has continuously shifted focus from one aspect to the other, in pace with these various aspects being criticized as perhaps sub-par. It's been a Diablo style game ever since the game was criticized for its combat. I think the free reign trolling of Too Human is ridiculous, but Dyack has brought a lot of it upon himself.
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Post by: TVC15 on May 12, 2008, 03:41:49 PM
FYI: I am neither a Dyack nor an Xbox fanboy, Willco. Pretty much the opposite to be honest.

I am only a Diablo fanboy.

You do know that diablo gameplay + loot tables isn't an automatic guaranteed win.  Play any Diablo clone that's come out of the former Soviet bloc in the past several years.
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Post by: TVC15 on May 12, 2008, 03:48:56 PM
FYI: I am neither a Dyack nor an Xbox fanboy, Willco. Pretty much the opposite to be honest.

I am only a Diablo fanboy.

You do know that diablo gameplay + loot tables isn't an automatic guaranteed win.  Play any Diablo clone that's come out of the former Soviet bloc in the past several years.

In the land of the blind one-eyed man is the king.

If you are starved for Diabloy gameplay, wait for Sacred II.  At least there's a proven track record there.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on May 12, 2008, 03:54:19 PM
Ugly called, it wants its ugly back.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on May 12, 2008, 03:57:42 PM
Ugly called, it wants its ugly back.
Yeah, the gameplay shots are incredibly ugly--both technically and artistically.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 12, 2008, 06:00:50 PM
if you want diablo-esque gameplay, INSTALL TITAN QUEST + EXPANSION NOW NOW NOW.

i am the world's biggest WHORE for diablo-esque gameplay. tvc and maf will confirm. i am also a huge sodomaniacal (tm me) xfag. despite these FACTS, dyack's abysmal track record and nonsensical hyperbole have made me completely uninterested in too human. it will be a turd.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 13, 2008, 11:10:29 AM
I think Mythos will be king Borys. Space Sieg might be cool too. But Mythos is looking so hawt hawt hawt. God I hope I get into Beta.

You have 45 minutes to PM me your e-mail before I leave the country.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 13, 2008, 11:32:54 AM
Okay, I put in your e-mail. Hopefully you get a key soon. (You too, Borys.)

NO MORE, I am leaving the country, don't spam my inbox!!
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 13, 2008, 11:40:16 AM
what else am I gonna do at 7 AM!
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Post by: MCD on May 13, 2008, 12:37:03 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11152072&postcount=506

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Too Human on 8.12, not 8/19
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Post by: MCD on May 13, 2008, 12:48:57 PM
hahahaha
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Post by: MCD on May 13, 2008, 12:58:02 PM
yeah, no 4coop is a big fuckup.
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Post by: MCD on May 13, 2008, 01:17:55 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11152637&postcount=716

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We have reduced it to 2-player co-op. The reason we did that is we looked at it, and the way the game is really frantic, and when you have a lot of guys zooming around. We weren't sure that would play out the best. There were also all kinds of balancing issues. That's where we are spending the majority of our time now. People say it looks finished, but we are balancing the RPG system. In order to do it right, and make sure co-op is the best it could be, right now we have it at 2 players. We though that was the absolute right thing to do for the game, and from a gamers point of view....
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Post by: Grecco on May 13, 2008, 01:25:31 PM
All interest i had flew out the window without 4 player co op
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Post by: MCD on May 13, 2008, 01:32:00 PM
know what's even more sad? FUCKING KINGDOM UNDER FIRE HAD 4 COOP.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 13, 2008, 01:42:33 PM
Seriously, doesn't this game pretty much REQUIRE 4p? Even stuff like Gears and Crackdown would benefit from 4p. Every game does, but this game approaches useless without it.

I love how he flatly admits that they just couldn't balance it. AAA, boys.
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 13, 2008, 01:54:05 PM
I'm not going to double guess the validity of the decision, but it'd be nice if developers in general just refrained from promising things until they know that it will for sure work. This is yet another one that Dyack has brought upon himself, although I'm sure he will find a scapegoat for this too. It's always someone else's fault.
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Post by: Kestastrophe on May 13, 2008, 01:59:52 PM
How could they possibly have balance issues if they were creating the game with 4p co-op in mind? Way to shoot yourselves in the foot, as if the game needed any other obstacles. I now have little more than passing interest in this game.
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Post by: TVC15 on May 13, 2008, 03:25:19 PM
It's your fault for getting hyped for a Silicon Knights game.  They are master letdown artists.
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Post by: MCD on May 13, 2008, 03:27:27 PM
i'm actually surprised they kept 2 coop.
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 13, 2008, 03:36:33 PM
But dudes, it has action game quality combat, great graphics, 4 player online co-op, er, uh, loot! And gods trolls giants humans and robotrons!
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 13, 2008, 03:39:59 PM
And I just went on a fucking super defense on this game yesterday.

Jesus christ.

Wilco redeemed.

I'd :lol heartily and say stuff like "when will you learn?", but I don't think my track record warrants the cockiness at this point.
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Post by: hyp on May 13, 2008, 03:55:12 PM
i'm still playing it!  :rock 

it's great to have low expectations. 
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 13, 2008, 03:56:57 PM
You guys are fast. I guess if there's one thing that can be said about Too Human, it's that it's remarkably easy to hate, and effortless to troll. It's almost Geist like in this way, practically self-trolling.
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 13, 2008, 04:08:19 PM
You guys are fast. I guess if there's one thing that can be said about Too Human, it's that it's remarkably easy to hate, and effortless to troll. It's almost Geist like in this way, practically self-trolling.

Or like Haze  :tomato

Or like Haze.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Tieno on May 13, 2008, 04:11:42 PM
You guys are fast. I guess if there's one thing that can be said about Too Human, it's that it's remarkably easy to hate, and effortless to troll. It's almost Geist like in this way, practically self-trolling.
Yeah, there's no pride or effort in trolling Too Human. Dennis Dyack is an enabler.
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Post by: TVC15 on May 13, 2008, 04:12:58 PM
You guys are fast. I guess if there's one thing that can be said about Too Human, it's that it's remarkably easy to hate, and effortless to troll. It's almost Geist like in this way, practically self-trolling.

But still, people get hyped for Silicon Knight's garbageware, and trolling them is absolutely delicious.
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Post by: Tieno on May 13, 2008, 06:14:13 PM
Watch Gears have 4p co-op.
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 13, 2008, 06:18:01 PM
Watch Gears have 4p co-op.

I think that's pretty much guaranteed. It'll be real hot.
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Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on May 13, 2008, 07:58:55 PM
I honestly can't believe the hate this game gets. It's absolutely fucking ridiculous and out of proportion.... so much so that I hope to god that TH turns out to be a huge commercial hit.

Fucking automatons.
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Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on May 13, 2008, 08:01:21 PM
I honestly can't believe the hate this game gets. It's absolutely fucking ridiculous and out of proportion.... so much so that I hope to god that TH turns out to be a huge commercial hit.

Fucking automatons.

Its pretty warranted at this point.

Because it's now 2 player co-op instead of 4?  BFD.
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Post by: Grecco on May 13, 2008, 08:35:33 PM
Yes. A PSO Clone with half the players doesnt deserve shit thrown its way. Fuck i was playing 4 player co op with buddies 8 years ago on the dreamcast.

I Love SK. Loved Eternal Darkness. Loved Twin snakes. But fuck it. They deserve shit after today.
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Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on May 13, 2008, 08:57:42 PM
I don't doubt people are disappointed with it or that they just don't give a rats ass for SK in general but the vitrol being thrown their way is so disproportionate to what's being displayed that I really have to wonder about what the hell is actually swiming in people's heads sometimes.

The automaton comment was more or less directed towards the thread I read at GAF not to the fine bunch of gents we have here.
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:05 PM
I don't doubt people are disappointed with it or that they just don't give a rats ass for SK in general but the vitrol being thrown their way is so disproportionate to what's being displayed that I really have to wonder about what the hell is actually swiming in people's heads sometimes.

The automaton comment was more or less directed towards the thread I read at GAF not to the fine bunch of gents we have here.

It's the Yescombe syndrome. If you want to talk big, then that's fine, talk big. But then you'd better make sure all that big talk isn't just that, talk. If a dude runs around talking about how enormously amazing his cod is, and how he can bring any woman into an uncontrolled orgasm just be flashing his junk, that's fine, right? That is, until he partakes in some drunken orgy and his dong not only fails to measure up in terms of physical presence, but also fails to meet the performance bar that his bragging had set for him. From that point on, he will be known as the guy with junk for junk. That's Dyack right now, running around with a brightly painted stump and a Hasselhoff mask, hoping that it will be enough at least attract some ugly chick who is desperate for some dicking, shallow as it may be.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 13, 2008, 09:48:15 PM
You guys are right about the balance. If they spent all this time working it out so that you'd need 4 different classes to get through effectively then how can it work as well with 2?

WHY CAN'T THEY DO 4 EVERY GAME DOES 16+
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Post by: Bildi on May 14, 2008, 12:12:33 AM
I'm not bothered by the lack of 4 player co-op, but over-promising and under-delivering is never a good position to be in.  You'd think they'd take more care to avoid it.
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Post by: duckman2000 on May 14, 2008, 12:14:38 AM
I'm not bothered by the lack of 4 player co-op, but over-promising and under-delivering is never a good position to be in.  You'd think they'd take more care to avoid it.

It goes along with the bullshit habit of announcing glorious trilogies before they have so much as released a demo for the first game. I understand that internally and especially in terms of publisher relations, doing the most with a new IP is very important, but really, make a good game and then talk about sequels.
Title: Re: TWO HUMAN Pics.
Post by: Bildi on May 14, 2008, 04:19:24 AM
It goes along with the bullshit habit of announcing glorious trilogies before they have so much as released a demo for the first game. I understand that internally and especially in terms of publisher relations, doing the most with a new IP is very important, but really, make a good game and then talk about sequels.


Somehow I don't find Denis as annoying as Peter Molyneux (who irritates the living daylights out of me), but Denis is no slouch at getting ahead of himself and then having it backfire.  He should have just shut up in the year leading up to the release of the game, especially since people were already burned out after hearing about this game for the last decade.