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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2008, 03:38:11 PM

Title: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2008, 03:38:11 PM
Thread in remembrance of Jacob Yenor, Michigan Teenager Defense Force founder
(http://tinyurl.com/547ees)
R.I.P.

Lets get this started :bow

Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2008, 03:40:59 PM
Prince of Darkness himself:
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    Nevertheless, reports out of the evangelical community dispute Huckabee's support. One experienced, credible activist in Christian politics who would not let his name be used told me Huckabee in personal conversation with him embraced the concept that an Obama presidency might be what the American people deserve. That fits what has largely been a fringe position among evangelicals that the pain of an Obama presidency is in keeping with the Bible's prophecy.

    According to this activist, at the heart of the let-Obama-win movement is longtime Virginia conservative leader Michael Farris -- the nation's leading home-school advocate, who is now chancellor of Patrick Henry College (in Purcellville, Va.) for home-schooled students. Best known politically as the losing Republican candidate for lieutenant governor of Virginia in 1993, Farris is regarded as one of the hardest-edged Christian politicians. He is reported in evangelical circles to promote the Biblical justification for an Obama plague-like presidency.

    In conversations with me, Huckabee and Farris both denied advocating that an Obama presidency should be inflicted on the country. Huckabee was enthusiastic in his support for McCain, noting how well they had bonded during their primary competition.

    Farris is another matter. A vigorous supporter of Huckabee for president, he has not endorsed McCain and may never do so (though he quickly adds he never would vote for Obama or Hillary Clinton). "I am concerned about what judges he (McCain) may name," Farris told me, "and the test will be who he selects for vice president." He made it clear that Huckabee would be his choice, and ruefully adds, "I understand he is not under consideration."

    At McCain headquarters, there is no doubt expressed about Huckabee's loyalty. "I feel we haven't used him (Huckabee) enough," McCain campaign manger Rick Davis told me. McCain's strategists are more concerned that the libertarian Rep. Ron Paul has not abandoned his candidacy, keeps fighting for delegates and says he will not endorse McCain.

     
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/mccain_huckabee_and_the_evange.html

Plagued Obama presidency? I wonder where Bush's presidency ranks on their prophesy diagram
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Tauntaun on May 12, 2008, 03:41:09 PM
Ron Paul
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/20070812-ron-paul-magneto.jpg)

 :lol

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:'( We love you Ron.
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Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Vizzys on May 12, 2008, 03:43:28 PM
whoever wins, we lose
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Bloodwake on May 12, 2008, 03:43:30 PM
Mandatory Election Thread sayings:

GOBAMA

BARACK THE VOTE

IF YOU SMELL WHAT BARACK IS COOKIN'
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 12, 2008, 03:45:30 PM
Hey, I heard Obama is a Muslim and his wife is an atheist.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Tauntaun on May 12, 2008, 03:57:41 PM
Hey, I heard Obama is a Muslim and his wife is an atheist.

Does this mean we can send him to Guantanamo?  :o
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Powerslave on May 12, 2008, 03:59:13 PM
whoever wins, we lose

Whoever loses, we win.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 12, 2008, 04:14:29 PM
Hey, I heard Obama is a Muslim and his wife is an atheist.

Obama is a Muslim and his pastor is a racist.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: treythemovie on May 12, 2008, 04:16:10 PM
Hey, I heard Obama is a Muslim and his wife is an atheist.

Obama is a Muslim and his pastor is a racist.

and his daughters are scientologists
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 12, 2008, 04:17:25 PM
Hey, I heard Obama is a Muslim and his wife is an atheist.

Obama is a Muslim and his pastor is a racist.

Obama is only one letter away from Osama. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: GilloD on May 12, 2008, 04:45:55 PM
Obama is both a BAD CHRISTIAN because he HATES AMERICA and a MUSLIM. A bad-christian-muslim.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: bud on May 12, 2008, 04:46:23 PM
cheebs looks hot :drool
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Tauntaun on May 12, 2008, 04:46:59 PM
Obama is both a BAD CHRISTIAN because he HATES AMERICA and a MUSLIM. A bad-christian-muslim.

Plus he's married to a sodomy lovin atheist.  :maf
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 12, 2008, 05:20:54 PM
Obama is both a BAD CHRISTIAN because he HATES AMERICA and a MUSLIM. A bad-christian-muslim.

Plus he's married to a sodomy lovin atheist.  :maf

Hooray for sodomy!  I'd like to give Michelle some butt lovin, just sayin.  :drool :hump
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: treythemovie on May 12, 2008, 05:38:49 PM
lol Ron Paul dissed the Ron Paul-only gated community
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 12, 2008, 05:43:01 PM
it's "sponsored" and "prophecy", mayne
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsered by biblical prophesy (tm)
Post by: treythemovie on May 12, 2008, 05:47:13 PM
it's "sponsored" and "prophecy", mayne

That is the pre-Ron Paul revolution way of spelling things Drinky. Get with the program, gees
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2008, 05:49:07 PM
my poor grammer has made me bitter  :'(
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Powerslave on May 12, 2008, 05:49:32 PM
Poor spelling, not grammar.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: treythemovie on May 12, 2008, 05:50:37 PM
Poor spelling, not grammar.

bitterness makes people stupid
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2008, 05:52:03 PM
elitists  :yuck
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 12, 2008, 05:54:01 PM
elitists  :yuck

you'll be the first against the wall after the Revolution. We will flog you with dictionaries and grammar handbooks.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: treythemovie on May 12, 2008, 05:54:43 PM
Michigan (http://208.109.107.74/forum/Smileys/classic/yuck.gif)
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2008, 05:55:18 PM
Huck responds to Novak's story

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Where do people dream up this stuff? Forget the “anonymous” sources—there’s nothing anonymous about my stand and here it is. We don’t “deserve” Obama—we DESERVE a President with the character, convictions, experience, and wisdom to see the problems we face and try to lead us to solve them. We deserve a President who truly loves this country and from whom there is no doubt as to his respect for Faith, Family, and the kind of Freedom that those before us have given their lives to pass on to us. John McCain meets that criteria and that’s why I am campaigning for him and not hoping for Obama. The nonsense that I want Obama to win this year so I can run in 2012 is absurd. I love my country more than my own ambition. So let the record and truth be clear. And let the “anonymous” sources either show the courage to stand up and be accountable for their comments or shut up and leave commentary to people who aren’t afraid of their own shadow. 
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/

I like how he insinuates Obama doesn't love the country
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 12, 2008, 05:56:40 PM
Huck uses the oxford comma.  :o

*jumps ship*
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: treythemovie on May 12, 2008, 05:59:01 PM
Huckabee allegedly wants Obama to win so that Huck can run in 2012
Hillary allegedly wants McCain to win so that she can run in 2012

2012: Huckabee vs Hillary? Whoever wins, we lose  :-\
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 12, 2008, 06:05:30 PM
well, the world is uspposed to end in 2012, anyhow!
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: treythemovie on May 12, 2008, 06:10:03 PM
After winning the popular vote but still losing the electoral college, Huckabee, in a wrathful mood, will rapture the world
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2008, 06:12:07 PM
I like things about Huck, most of which have nothing to do with his policies. He usually strikes me as an honest dude, plus I don't think he's a neocon.

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CHARLESTON, W.V. -- Hillary Clinton found dozens of supporters, and at least one of her rival's, as she started her Primary Eve Day with a stop at a local Biscuit World.

Clinton made the unnanounced trip as she seeks to boost her margin of victory in the Mountain State's primary. "We gotta get everybody out, gotta get everybody out," she said as she posed for a picture with a group of women.

One told her the weather forecast looked good. "Yup, let's make it happen, Clinton replied. "Get everybody out, it'll be a good day."

As Clinton worked the room, she ran into Doris Smith, who happened to be wearing a blue and white Obama '08 T-shirt. She shook her hand, and said she would work hard for her.

"I'm still trying to decide on the issues," Smith said to Clinton. "Well, that's what [you] should decide on," Clinton said, her hand now on Smith's shoulder.

Clinton, who did not stop to eat, thanked the staff and supporters for the greeting, and offered a quick pitch on her electability.

"I keep telling people, no Democrat has won the White House since 1916 without winning West Virginia."

As she sat in a booth signing a book, another woman said she hoped she woud "go all the way."

"We're gonna keep going as long as we have people like you helping us," Clinton said.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/
 ::)

West Virginia=5 electoral votes

This is the dumbest shit ever. First off, polls show McCain kills Obama and Hillary in W Virginia. Second she's insinuated all along that "small states" don't matter while ignoring the "big states" Obama has won. Obama puts NC, Colo, VA, NV, NM, and even Iowa into play for 2008; I'm not saying he'll win those states but he's going to be competitive; I'm willing to bet he'll win VA and NV, a +18 increase in the blue column.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 12, 2008, 06:22:11 PM
I read that Hillary's new plan is to try to ride out a majority in the popular vote, then use that to bludgeon the superdelegates into voting for her. I hope that enough superdelegates come out for Obama over the next few days that that line of reasoning becomes unreasonable. Everyone has accepted her campaign is over except for her.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2008, 06:25:17 PM
Allegedly Obama has 120 superdelegates in the wings, but the campaign isn't planning on rolling them out in mass unless Hillary continues the negative attacks. Plus they want her to exit with her upcoming big wins out of "respect" for her.

If that's true he can just unroll say 20 after the polls close in W Vir tomorrow, thus changing the media narrative a bit.

btw check out my new favorite site:
http://www.270towin.com/  :bow
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 12, 2008, 06:29:08 PM
I read that Hillary's new plan is to try to ride out a majority in the popular vote, then use that to bludgeon the superdelegates into voting for her. I hope that enough superdelegates come out for Obama over the next few days that that line of reasoning becomes unreasonable. Everyone has accepted her campaign is over except for her.

Since last Tuesday, Obama has netted 21 supers to her... 1.5.  Her bs arguments aren't working.  It's over.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 12, 2008, 06:50:07 PM
I read that Hillary's new plan is to try to ride out a majority in the popular vote, then use that to bludgeon the superdelegates into voting for her. I hope that enough superdelegates come out for Obama over the next few days that that line of reasoning becomes unreasonable. Everyone has accepted her campaign is over except for her.

Since last Tuesday, Obama has netted 21 supers to her... 1.5.  Her bs arguments aren't working.  It's over.

She's like an undead zombie candidate who can't be killed, though. The media narrative has completely turned against her and she's still spouting "Gotta win West Virginia! Most important state!" nonsense.

I just donated to Obama! (My first political donation ever.) I would like to think my small contribution will help kick Hillary out of the race sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 12, 2008, 06:52:29 PM
I read that Hillary's new plan is to try to ride out a majority in the popular vote, then use that to bludgeon the superdelegates into voting for her. I hope that enough superdelegates come out for Obama over the next few days that that line of reasoning becomes unreasonable. Everyone has accepted her campaign is over except for her.

Since last Tuesday, Obama has netted 21 supers to her... 1.5.  Her bs arguments aren't working.  It's over.

She's like an undead zombie candidate who can't be killed.

I just donated to Obama! I would like to think my small contribution will contribute to kicking Hillary out of the race sooner rather than later.

Personally, I like to compare her political death to that of Rasputin.  We've already poisoned her, shot her repeatedly and then beaten her to a pulp.  All that's left is for us to throw her body into an icy river and we can move on to the general election.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: duckman2000 on May 12, 2008, 06:53:32 PM
I'd add "castrated her", but I guess that happened some time ago
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on May 12, 2008, 10:46:28 PM
Got this from Digg
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/ronpaulgop.html
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 12, 2008, 11:07:44 PM
Got this from Digg
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/ronpaulgop.html



i will say that the crazy-ass comments attached to this article have given me some perspective on ron paul: specifically, that the loopy-loo koolaid-chugging mises-spouting nonsense of the paulites doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the walleyed, illiterate christo-madness of huckabee supporters
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2008, 11:14:38 PM
It'll be interesting to see if Paul is allowed to speak at the convention. There's no doubt that his supporters are going to shit the thing up either inside the convention or outside it
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 12, 2008, 11:32:05 PM
i do enjoy seeing the republican party stretched too thin on the rack of its own devising, with the three damaged and almost incompatible organs of its rotten self now separated, exposed, and chained to lame horses: the rapture faithful and their anti-abortion paranoia lined up behind huckabee; the quasi-religious, mexican-fearing, arch-conservative 1776ers and their dogmatic college boy wonders in uncle paul's wings; and the corporate-rights bumper sticker patriots and warmongers tossing their lot in with mccain.

lol just lol
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: MrAngryFace on May 12, 2008, 11:36:18 PM
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/12/1012909.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage

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“I don’t need a guided tour of the White House,” she said. “I know my way around, and I know we gotta get to work immediately, because we’re not gonna have a lot of time.”

uh what?
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 12, 2008, 11:40:23 PM
an AWESOME comment :o :o :o

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Mr. Malcolm, how instrumental have you been in informing the citizens of Greater Los Angeles about the insidious, underlying intent... the sad modern-day reality... behind LA Agenda 21 (and the supremacy of communitarian law), I wonder?

Has this subject been beyond your particular purview? A search of the LA Times website for these exact keywords turned up... not a thing... nada... zilch.

I see you are one of the few at the LA Times assigned the task of agitating for GOP dissension within its ranks, while most eyeballs remain focused on this meaningless Democratic Party horse race.

Why do you think that is?

Obama and Clinton are both avowed communitarians beholden to the central planners who claim slave-master status over our government representatives and the U.S. economy. McCain, like the other two, actually likes being led around by his nose, all the while pretending he is a gallant military-political man "of principle." Just ask Senator Lieberman and Mrs. McCain, his wife. Ask Mrs. Clinton and her husband. Ask Mr. Obama who ALL these other candidates MUST pander to in order to secure their Party's nomination.

And these same elite, psychopathic internationalists and warmongers are merely the enablers for the real controlling influences... behind the real-world plotting... of LA Agenda 21, for instance - yet few Angelenos, and few patriotic Americans for that matter, know a cotton-picking thing about it.

This is precisely illustrative of the reason why Big Media puppeteers like the LA Times and their working lackeys doing the dirty work are a clear and present danger to the American Republic and ALL its citizens: They no longer report the impartial news of the day without some pre-determined outcome - a secretive, centrally-planned agenda - already in mind. And they certainly don't dance to the tune of the great unwashed, now do they?

Once the American people learn that Big Media is a CIA asset "owned" by the same people who own these three "anointed" candidates AND "their" monetary system, the quicker they'll realize their Constitution, American sovereignty... their rights and their liberties... are in very grave danger...

... Then the sooner they'll realize who the actual conspirators have been that worked behind the scenes so diligently to enslave them, once and for all.

Which is why I have to ask, "Are you a journalist for The Third Way", or are you a "man of principle" like McCain? Do you have an honest affection for liberty or truth? Or do you think you'll be somehow "protected" too?

Ron Paul and his supporters are not going away, Mr. Malcolm. Their numbers will only increase exponentially in the aftermath of what "our" treasonous central planners are deliberately doing to us, I promise.

Until such time as the Fed is abolished, the power of Big Media is finished, and the monopolists so beloved by communitarians are positively undone... Ron Paul's star will continue to shine... with or without him in the White House.

Perhaps your real job is to help identify the "terrorists" to the status quo "appointees" in Homeland Security and the CIA - would that be the reason you write of Ron Paul being "correctly dismissed" by deliberately dumbed-down voters who still think we live in a democratically-controlled never-neverland run by We, the People?

Is this why you associate terms like "revolt", "plot", and other scary-sounding code words with Paul's clarion call... albeit, practically now silenced by the underhanded mainstream media... for a constitutionalists' simple message... of peace, prosperity, and freedom?

Or is it the case that you and your paymasters merely fear the wrath of the American people once they've finally wised-up to your disgraceful subterfuge?

tvc, maf, how do we become part of SEATTLE AGENDA 42
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 12, 2008, 11:47:19 PM
Man, where do I sign up to be part of Central Planning?  That sounds fuck awesome.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 12, 2008, 11:51:03 PM
no shit. i have some communitarian sympathies -- well, okay, i get annoying spam mail from them regularly because i subscribe to tnr, and the fact that i occasionally read it and snicker should count as "sympathy" -- so gimme a junior puppetmaster position in the nwo, please!
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Vizzys on May 12, 2008, 11:55:17 PM
that magneto picture still gets me :lol
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 12, 2008, 11:56:51 PM
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/12/1012909.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage

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“I don’t need a guided tour of the White House,” she said. “I know my way around, and I know we gotta get to work immediately, because we’re not gonna have a lot of time.”

uh what?

Obama is going to waste the first three months of his Presidency learning all the secret bookcase shortcuts in the White House
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 12, 2008, 11:58:26 PM
actually, i'd BE a communitarian if it wasn't a potential gateway for the creepy religious set, and because i love science and rational thought more than i love social engineering
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Mandark on May 13, 2008, 02:50:19 AM
Reading that comment makes me wish I was like that.  It must be so awesome to know you're part of a select group that's privy to the secret truths of the world.  It'd be like being woken up from the Matrix!
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 13, 2008, 03:06:09 AM
i like how a good half of the pro-paul comments end with some dire pronouncement about the usa being on the road to "concentration camps" or worse if we don't vote for their candidate

the ONLY future for those who don't live by the bibleconstitution is hellgermany 1938 revisited!
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Mandark on May 13, 2008, 03:28:46 AM
That would explain The Road to Serfdom's persistent ability to wow college freshmen with its insight.  He predicted what's about to happen!  60 years ago!

It strikes me as really presumptuous for the mostly white, suburban Paulites to act like they're the ones risking the ire of The System to spread The Truth.  For all the Bush administration's willingness to throw civil rights under the bus, the people who suffer are always going to be unpopular ethnic minorities and faraway populations of swarthy foreigners.

It's just as delusional an ego-stroke as hawks who consider their amateur propagandizing as roughly equal to sacrifices and contributions of actual soldiers.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on May 13, 2008, 04:13:58 AM
The war on drugs is probably responsible for such a high black ( and minority) prison population and yet the only candidate that talked about ending it was Ron Paul. Hmmmm
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 13, 2008, 11:52:35 AM
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080512/capt.9cc1aa17d9aa4969b38be1a047e04219.clinton_2008_wvea120.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: MrAngryFace on May 13, 2008, 12:08:20 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24588813/

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Here's the worst: In Muncie, a factory town in the east-central part of Indiana, Ross and her cohorts were soliciting support for Obama at malls, on street corners and in a Wal-Mart parking lot, and they ran into "a horrible response," as Ross put it, a level of anti-black sentiment that none of them had anticipated.

"The first person I encountered was like, 'I'll never vote for a black person,' " recalled Ross, who is white and just turned 20. "People just weren't receptive."

For all the hope and excitement Obama's candidacy is generating, some of his field workers, phone-bank volunteers and campaign surrogates are encountering a raw racism and hostility that have gone largely unnoticed -- and unreported -- this election season. Doors have been slammed in their faces. They've been called racially derogatory names (including the white volunteers). And they've endured malicious rants and ugly stereotyping from people who can't fathom that the senator from Illinois could become the first African American president.

The contrast between the large, adoring crowds Obama draws at public events and the gritty street-level work to win votes is stark. The candidate is largely insulated from the mean-spiritedness that some of his foot soldiers deal with away from the media spotlight.

Meeting cruel reaction
Victoria Switzer, a retired social studies teacher, was on phone-bank duty one night during the Pennsylvania primary campaign. One night was all she could take: "It wasn't pretty." She made 60 calls to prospective voters in Susquehanna County, her home county, which is 98 percent white. The responses were dispiriting. One caller, Switzer remembers, said he couldn't possibly vote for Obama and concluded: "Hang that darky from a tree!"

Documentary filmmaker Rory Kennedy, the daughter of the late Robert F. Kennedy, said she, too, came across "a lot of racism" when campaigning for Obama in Pennsylvania. One Pittsburgh union organizer told her he would not vote for Obama because he is black, and a white voter, she said, offered this frank reason for not backing Obama: "White people look out for white people, and black people look out for black people."

Obama campaign officials say such incidents are isolated, that the experience of most volunteers and staffers has been overwhelmingly positive.

The campaign released this statement in response to questions about encounters with racism: "After campaigning for 15 months in nearly all 50 states, Barack Obama and our entire campaign have been nothing but impressed and encouraged by the core decency, kindness, and generosity of Americans from all walks of life. The last year has only reinforced Senator Obama's view that this country is not as divided as our politics suggest."
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: crimsondynamics on May 13, 2008, 12:14:11 PM
How many times have I heard this in the US:

"You're a great kid, but I wouldn't let my daughter marry you."

 :interracial harmony my left one.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: MrAngryFace on May 13, 2008, 12:14:53 PM
I really can't fathom racists. I guess you have to be born in a certain area.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: crimsondynamics on May 13, 2008, 12:22:23 PM
I actually heard this once at a buddy's house. His father was a politician.

So my buddy invites me to his house for lunch. I don't remember how the conversation veered towards racism (I think my buddy's dad was commenting about having loads of servants on their hacienda) but I remember clearly that after one of his servants and her daughter (they were both black) served the food, he said, "I have nothing against blacks.

"In fact, I think every household should have at least two."

Honest - in those words. Couldn't believe my ears.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Tauntaun on May 13, 2008, 12:23:45 PM
I actually heard this once at a buddy's house. His father was a politician.

So my buddy invites me to his house for lunch. I don't remember how the conversation veered towards racism (I think my buddy's dad was commenting about having loads of servants on their hacienda) but I remember clearly that after one of his servants and her daughter (they were both black) served the food, he said, "I have nothing against blacks.

"In fact, I think every household should have at least two."


Honest - in those words. Couldn't believe my ears.

:omg  :rofl
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: MrAngryFace on May 13, 2008, 12:24:19 PM
I hate racists but even I am a little. Its kinda weird racism where its like, I see black people so infrequently that when I see them I want them to know im not racist so I am extra polite. Its not noticable but while I dont smile at most white people ill smile and nod at every black person I see.

Its a weird sort of racism.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 13, 2008, 12:27:59 PM
I really can't fathom racists. I guess you have to be born in a certain area.

You've got to have certain parents.
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Post by: Eric P on May 13, 2008, 12:37:02 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24588813/

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Here's the worst: In Muncie, a factory town in the east-central part of Indiana, Ross and her cohorts were soliciting support for Obama at malls, on street corners and in a Wal-Mart parking lot, and they ran into "a horrible response," as Ross put it, a level of anti-black sentiment that none of them had anticipated.


(http://videodetective.com/photos/122/005131_24.jpg)

Muncie Business College Grads Represent!
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 13, 2008, 12:47:02 PM
I hate racists but even I am a little. Its kinda weird racism where its like, I see black people so infrequently that when I see them I want them to know im not racist so I am extra polite. Its not noticable but while I dont smile at most white people ill smile and nod at every black person I see.

Its a weird sort of racism.

what do black guys do when a buff asian man nods at them tho? i should know this  :'(
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Post by: Tauntaun on May 13, 2008, 12:50:02 PM
I hate racists but even I am a little. Its kinda weird racism where its like, I see black people so infrequently that when I see them I want them to know im not racist so I am extra polite. Its not noticable but while I dont smile at most white people ill smile and nod at every black person I see.

Its a weird sort of racism.

what do black guys do when a buff asian man nods at them tho? i should know this  :'(

Show them what prison's like.

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Post by: Bloodwake on May 13, 2008, 03:28:39 PM
I lived in a town that was 95% white people. Probably about 75% of those people were racist.

So, whenever I went to college, I almost got my ass kicked a few times for saying some stuff that I didn't mean to be racist, mainly talking about Chappelle's Show and stuff. It's not that I was racist, it was the area I lived in.

I know better now, that's for sure.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on May 13, 2008, 07:38:30 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24592776#24586622
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on May 13, 2008, 08:20:54 PM
How many times have I heard this in the US:

"You're a great kid, but I wouldn't let my daughter marry you."


Thats strange I have never heard this in my 23 years in america.
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on May 13, 2008, 08:21:39 PM
I really can't fathom racists. I guess you have to be born in a certain area.

You've got to have certain parents.

So then how did racism start?
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Post by: Human Snorenado on May 13, 2008, 09:20:27 PM
I really can't fathom racists. I guess you have to be born in a certain area.

You've got to have certain parents.

So then how did racism start?

Tell us, racist.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 13, 2008, 09:36:14 PM
I really can't fathom racists. I guess you have to be born in a certain area.

You've got to have certain parents.

So then how did racism start?

With distinguished black fellows.
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Post by: Eric P on May 13, 2008, 09:37:39 PM
(http://scienceblogs.com/bushwells/obamonkey.jpg)

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Group protests at Cobb bar, calling Obama T-shirts racist
Mulligan's selling shirts with 'Curious George' picture

By CHRISTIAN BOONE
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 05/13/08

Marietta tavern owner Mike Norman says the T-shirts he's peddling, featuring cartoon chimp Curious George peeling a banana, with "Obama in '08" scrolled underneath, are "cute." But to a coalition of critics, the shirts are an insulting exploitation of racial stereotypes from generations past.

"It's time to put an end to this," said Rich Pellegrino, a Mableton resident and director of the Cobb-Cherokee Immigrant Alliance. He was among about 15 people who protested outside Mulligan's Bar and Grill Tuesday afternoon against the sale of the "racist and highly offensive" shirts.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cobb/stories/2008/05/13/mulligans_0514.html
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on May 13, 2008, 09:38:59 PM
that's awful I cant imagine anyone wearing that sure in public though.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 13, 2008, 09:42:37 PM
I lol'd

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Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 13, 2008, 10:05:05 PM
How many times have I heard this in the US:

"You're a great kid, but I wouldn't let my daughter marry you."


Thats strange I have never heard this in my 23 years in america.

have you ever seen a poor black person?
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Post by: crimsondynamics on May 13, 2008, 10:28:51 PM
How many times have I heard this in the US:

"You're a great kid, but I wouldn't let my daughter marry you."


Thats strange I have never heard this in my 23 years in america.

What's your ethnicity?
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Post by: Human Snorenado on May 13, 2008, 10:41:57 PM
How many times have I heard this in the US:

"You're a great kid, but I wouldn't let my daughter marry you."


Thats strange I have never heard this in my 23 years in america.

What's your ethnicity?

distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.  Excuse me, I meant racist distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 13, 2008, 11:23:37 PM
CLINTON BLOWOUT OMG SHE'S BACK
RACE IS SO CLOSE GUYS IT CAN GO EITHER WAY
W VIRGINIA: MOST IMPORTANT 5 EVs EVER
CLINTON SPEECH MONUMENTAL
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 13, 2008, 11:25:11 PM
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Terry McAuliffe raised some serious expectations for Hillary's speech on MSNBC.

"You're going to see a great speech tonight from Hillary Clinton. Talked about it on the way down. I saw it. It's going to be a great speech. One of the greatest speeches, Chris, ever given," he said.

"Better than the second inaugural of Lincoln, perhaps," Matthews said after he got off the air.

"Better than stuff in the Bible," said Olbermann.
:lol

KILLZONE 2 QUALITY SPEECH
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Post by: MrAngryFace on May 14, 2008, 12:08:12 AM
Obamas race speech eclipses everything this election, how many times can u say 'im in it till the whitehouse!'
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Post by: MrAngryFace on May 14, 2008, 12:10:09 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/opinion/10herbert.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=seeds+of+destruction&st=nyt&oref=slogin

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24603911#24598363


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http://www.newsweek.com/id/136315

To keep that trickle of superdelegate commitments from turning into a flood, Hillary will likely continue the delightful and uplifting argument that she made to USA Today that she has a large and expanding base among "hardworking Americans, white Americans." This is code for "America isn't ready for a black man," but it's also unsubstantiated. Her share of white, working-class voters actually diminished considerably from Ohio and Pennsylvania to North Carolina and Indiana, largely because the more recent primary states are younger. It's "the granny gap," stupid. For all her claims of a broad coalition, Hillary's only reliable base is older white women with no college education. She obviously doesn't crush Obama among white voters more generally or she would already be the nominee.
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Post by: bengraven on May 14, 2008, 04:24:22 AM
OMFG @ CNN.

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/POLITICS/05/13/wv.primary/t1home.hillarywin2.ap.jpg)
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Post by: Joe Molotov on May 14, 2008, 05:05:49 AM
OMFG @ CNN.

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/POLITICS/05/13/wv.primary/t1home.hillarywin2.ap.jpg)

(http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/POLITICS/05/13/wv.primary/art.clinton.gi.jpg)
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Post by: treythemovie on May 14, 2008, 05:48:49 AM
Who the hell cares about West Virginia? Childers got elected  :hyper
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2008, 01:14:07 PM
I've shied away from all the racism charges coming out of W Virginia but...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Madridexpo/Misc/Clip0003.png)
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Post by: Eric P on May 14, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
not really a surprise
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Post by: MrAngryFace on May 14, 2008, 01:19:27 PM
Stupid people keep ruining everything. They feel all entitled to share uneducated opinions and be fucking racist, stupid fucking fuck fucks arghhghghg racist jesus christ fucking morons sayin stupid things beliving stupid things how can they exist as a part of our society??!?!?!??!
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Post by: Tauntaun on May 14, 2008, 01:19:54 PM
(http://scienceblogs.com/bushwells/obamonkey.jpg)

:rofl  :rofl  How can I get one?
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Post by: TVC15 on May 14, 2008, 02:56:14 PM
I've shied away from all the racism charges coming out of W Virginia but...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Madridexpo/Misc/Clip0003.png)

This is fucking awesome.
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Post by: Mandark on May 14, 2008, 02:59:48 PM
The last several primaries have all had surprisingly large chunks of people who openly said that race was the most important factor in voting for Clinton.

I say surprisingly not because of the levels of bigotry but the openness.  Who cops to being a white racist these days?
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Post by: Human Snorenado on May 14, 2008, 03:06:22 PM
The last several primaries have all had surprisingly large chunks of people who openly said that race was the most important factor in voting for Clinton.

I say surprisingly not because of the levels of bigotry but the openness.  Who cops to being a white racist these days?

People who don't give a shit what other people think about it.  You also have to factor in the 6-7 percent that voted for Edwards- my guess is they were the uber-bigots who couldn't bring themselves to vote for a woman, white or otherwise.
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Post by: Mandark on May 14, 2008, 03:08:42 PM
Hey!
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Post by: TVC15 on May 14, 2008, 03:09:56 PM
I'm just sayin', those Hillary numbers would make David Duke proud.  
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Post by: Human Snorenado on May 14, 2008, 03:12:35 PM
Hey!

Some of them could have been union people, sure.  But come on, this is WV we're talking about, the heart of Appalachia.  It really is like another planet out there.  I'm not blaming the people, their circumstances are more to blame for their lack of education and information.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2008, 04:44:12 PM
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Campaign Touts Big Endorsement

14 May 2008 02:58 pm

A big national endorsement that Obama will unveil at 7pm ET tonight.... a conspicuous Clinton deserter, perhaps? I don't know.
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_campaign_touts_big_endor.phpObama

killzone 2 quality megaton  :o
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 14, 2008, 05:03:57 PM
if it is an edwards defection, i will shit my pants with liberal white joy

also, an awesome gk chesterton quote applicable to our shit-tacular foreign policy

Quote from: from a time when patriotism was still the refuge of scoundrels
It may be said with rough accuracy that there are three stages in the life of a strong people. First, it is a small power, and fights small powers. Then it is a great power, and fights great powers. Then it is a great power, and fights small powers, but pretends that they are great powers, in order to rekindle the ashes of its ancient emotion and vanity. After that, the next step is to become a small power itself.
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Post by: TVC15 on May 14, 2008, 06:42:22 PM
Soooooo looks like we're going to be getting Edwards endorsing Obama today.  Will this finally kill the harpy that wouldn't die?
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Post by: TVC15 on May 14, 2008, 06:46:44 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

Confirmed
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2008, 06:49:20 PM
booooooo
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 14, 2008, 06:50:51 PM
Boo?
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Post by: Eric P on May 14, 2008, 06:51:36 PM
aw man

work was KICKING my ass today so i couldn't take part in the fun of this thread
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 15, 2008, 12:16:00 AM
:lol suck it Hillary
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 21, 2008, 06:57:48 PM
Interesting discussion (with numbers!) on Obama's rural white vote issue, and why it's not just about his race
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24763804#24763329
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on May 21, 2008, 07:05:45 PM
I like how the democrats have to deal with racism in their own party.  :lol :lol :lol :lol b-b-b-but I thought racism and republicans were one and the same thing huck huck huck
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 21, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
[youtube=425,350]oO5soX3iLtk[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO5soX3iLtk
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 21, 2008, 08:05:41 PM
I hate her.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 21, 2008, 08:38:07 PM
Here's a nice number crunch on just about every possible splitup of MI/FL

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/
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Post by: treythemovie on May 21, 2008, 10:41:36 PM
I like how the democrats have to deal with racism in their own party.  :lol :lol :lol :lol b-b-b-but I thought racism and republicans were one and the same thing huck huck huck

Despite being registered as Democrats, Kentucky Dems consistently vote Republican

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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 05, 2008, 05:02:35 PM
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The Obama campaign confirmed today that Howard Dean will remain chairman of the Democratic National Committee, even as Obama puts his own stamp on the DNC.

"Sen. Obama appreciates the hard work that Chairman Dean has done to grow our party at the grass-roots level and looks forward to working with him as the chairman of the Democratic Party as we go forward," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said.

Dean has shed his lightning rod status in recent years and focused more heavily on building state party organizations — a mission that gave him a base of support in the states and that matches Obama's plan to use his resources to keep McCain on the defensive in a wide range of states.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Dean_will_remain_as_DNC_chair.html

:bow

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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 05, 2008, 10:50:47 PM
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A senior Obama campaign official confirmed to NBC News that Sen. Barack Obama delayed his departure from Washington tonight to meet with Sen. Hillary Clinton at her home.
http://politicalwire.com/

don't drink anything she offers you omg
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Post by: siamesedreamer on June 05, 2008, 11:17:44 PM
I'd love to see the GAF meltdown if she's picked to be VP.
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Post by: APF on June 06, 2008, 01:03:33 AM
http://truththroughaction.org/media-gallery/photos/political-monogamy/
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Post by: Eric P on June 06, 2008, 06:31:41 AM
http://truththroughaction.org/media-gallery/photos/political-monogamy/
eye roll
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Post by: brawndolicious on June 06, 2008, 07:03:40 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/05/clinton.obama.wrap/index.html

I don't now if this was the top story when TVC posted the msnbc page, but I have no idea if a Obama-Clinton ticket would actually work.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2008, 12:51:15 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22887392#22887392

Hillary concession speech
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 07, 2008, 01:00:07 PM
Hillary doesn't look too thrilled with her pro-Obama speech.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2008, 01:05:14 PM
she always looks like that

very good concession so far. props for bringing up the SC
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2008, 01:22:49 PM
great speech. she seemed sincere and honest, and she laid out the case for her supporters to do the right thing. if these feminists could watch that, hearing Hillary's SC comments among others, and still vote for McCain they're stupid
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Post by: Tieno on June 07, 2008, 01:52:33 PM
Youtube the speech please, the MSNBC one is unavailable to me.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2008, 02:25:57 PM
Not up on youtube yet but here's a clip
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25021070#25021070
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 07, 2008, 04:23:19 PM


Part I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxWrl9W9pf4
Part II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em8dWlgxsiY
Part III: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b594Ia2jXYg
Part IV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc1fTJizJ-M
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 08, 2008, 12:49:55 AM
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GREENSBORO, N.C. (AP) — Former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee did more than just give a speech at the North Carolina Republican Party convention. He also may have saved a life.

State GOP spokesman Brent Woodcox says the former Arkansas governor did the Heimlich maneuver on Robert Pittenger, the Republican candidate for lieutenant governor, at a lunch before Huckabee gave his speech Saturday.

Woodcox says Pittenger was walking by the front table of the lunch greeting people when he began to choke.

Woodcox says Huckabee jumped up to help Pittenger, who was able to walk away after the incident without medical assistance.

Phone messages left for Huckabee and Pittenger on Saturday were not immediately returned.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/07/the-huckabee-heimlich-may-have-saved-life/

God's Candidate :bow

2012 can't arrive soon enough :bow
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Post by: MrAngryFace on June 08, 2008, 03:57:04 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/off-the-bus-reporter/video-watch-texas-dem-uni_b_105823.html

that video is so great
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Post by: Crushed on June 08, 2008, 11:26:51 AM
http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=650#comments
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Our movement must stay strong to keep Hussein out of the White House .. him and his ugly ass wife,.
Quote
I wonder how many people there are plants for Obama to ensure there is any clapping for him.
Quote
She is laying the groundwork for 2012. She knows he will not win.
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NObama: the illegitimate nominee
Quote
18 million hands - send them to the DNC
1. trace your hands on an 8×11 sheet of paper
2. write your name and city/state in the center of your hands.
3. above the hands, write: “These hands are on the front lines of democracy and they continue to work for Hillary.”
4. below the hands, write: “I am one of 18 million. Hillary for President 2008″

put it in an envelope and send it off to the DNC.
:rofl
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Post by: siamesedreamer on June 08, 2008, 11:30:27 AM
 :lol

Huck is fucking awesome.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on June 08, 2008, 10:08:07 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/05/jon-stewart-mocks-hillary_n_105386.html

haha good ol daily show
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 13, 2008, 12:25:26 AM
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From NBC/NJ’s Carrie Dann
NASHUA, N.H. -- It looks like McCain is not worried about losing the occasionally inaccurate-economist vote.

At a town hall here today, McCain sought to steer his message toward high gas prices, the issue-du-jour being debated by both campaigns today.

Noting that economists almost universally panned his support for a summer gas-tax holiday -- one that was shared by but ultimately unfruitful for Hillary Clinton -- McCain had some uncomplimentary words for the egghead-y money maestros.

"You know the economists?" he said. "They're the same ones that didn't predict this housing crisis we're in. They're the same ones that didn't predict the dot-com meltdown. They're the same ones that didn't predict the inflation that's staring us in the face today."


Cracking a joke, he added, "I'm reminded of the old line that if you took all of the economists in the world and put them end to end, you wouldn't reach a conclusion."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

I had hoped this type of blatant pandering and anti intelligence would disappear from the race when Hillary exited. Truly shows how stupid McCain's lobbyists/advisers/puppet masters think the American people are...and it seems like it's working to a certain degree
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 13, 2008, 12:33:23 AM
:piss Mccain :piss2
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Post by: Fragamemnon on June 13, 2008, 12:49:34 AM
Quote

"You know the economists?" he said. "They're the same ones that didn't predict this housing crisis we're in. They're the same ones that didn't predict the dot-com meltdown. They're the same ones that didn't predict the inflation that's staring us in the face today."


Cracking a joke, he added, "I'm reminded of the old line that if you took all of the economists in the world and put them end to end, you wouldn't reach a conclusion."

Comments like that put piping hot rage into reason-minded Obama supporters and remind moderates that McCain is on the same anti-science insanity train that Bush conducted. He's still pandering to his base, thinking that he can win with 2004 math in 2008. He should have lurched to the middle weeks ago, he's rapidly getting himself framed by the Democrats and the media is buying into it.

At this rate the race will be over in September, seriously.
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Post by: Mandark on June 13, 2008, 01:02:34 AM
McCain might really believe that stuff.  He's never had a reputation as a wonk and he seems to trust his own righteousness to the point of arrogance.  And hey, Phil Gramm is his main economic advisor!  Just what we need in the face of asset bubbles: more deregulation of the financial sector!

On the other side, here's New Republic story on Obama's policy people. (http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=4d40a39e-8f57-4054-bd99-94bc9d19be1a)  Apparently he puts a premium on them being credentialed experts in the specific field they're advising on.
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Post by: Fragamemnon on June 13, 2008, 01:17:08 AM
I've been saying for like forever that Gramm is a very weak point for McCain, and that Democratic surrogates should go after him, calling him the "architect of the credit crunch and housing collapse". Forcing McCain to purge Gramm out of his campaign would piss off  a lot of conservatives.

TNR article is good, though this gave me the creepz:

Quote
Just before the Iowa caucus, I saw Goolsbee approach New York Times columnist David Brooks in Des Moines and gush when the quirky conservative agreed to pose for a picture.

 :( :'(
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Post by: Mandark on June 13, 2008, 02:04:11 AM
Yeah, I felt a strong urge to swat Goolsbee with a rolled up newspaper at that part.

Since we're talking about McCain's crew, I might as well point out that his Latin America advisor is Otto Reich, who's been involved with Reagan-era support for the Contras, the attempted coup against Hugo Chavez, and the tightening of the Cuban embargo.  It's like a greatest hits of right wing American foreign policy in the hemisphere.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 13, 2008, 02:08:14 AM
el mavericko :bow
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 13, 2008, 01:48:01 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/us/politics/13split.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all&adxnnlx=1213362252-Kig5UO5yAB/JR2VSw2VYbQ&oref=slogin
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Eric P on June 14, 2008, 01:37:30 AM
so do i mention my political contribution in the what did you buy thread or in here?

me and my girl combined our money to buy one morning's coffee for a room of elitists
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 14, 2008, 11:36:08 AM
uh...

(http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/20080613BarackCheOhio.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 14, 2008, 11:39:25 AM
he's got a che poster?! omg obama better fire him and tear up his voter card so he can't besmear him in november
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 14, 2008, 02:12:33 PM
he's got a che poster?! omg obama better fire him and tear up his voter card so he can't besmear him in november

And you dont think there is anything wrong with a politician having a che poster up? I think it's pretty telling that a public official has one up right next to Obama.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 14, 2008, 02:19:19 PM
the days of socialist witchhunts are long over, foc. socialism is the new cool in america. don't worry; when the elites take over, promising a grand new vision, we'll make sure that even a subpar monkey like you is employed. how do you feel about driving a tractor?
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 14, 2008, 02:23:19 PM
he's got a che poster?! omg obama better fire him and tear up his voter card so he can't besmear him in november

And you dont think there is anything wrong with a politician having a che poster up? I think it's pretty telling that a public official has one up right next to Obama.

It's at an Obama head quarters in a local election branch in a state. Should Obama dictate the decor in every election station that works for him? We already know he has nothing in common with that murderous asshole, so what's the problem unless you're apart of the "what do we REALLY know about that black man" crowd. I know you're not that stupid.

Obama isn't able to visit every single election center in his name because, unlike Ron Paul's, his centers can't be counted on one hand
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 14, 2008, 02:23:51 PM
I bet you jack off to Che poster at night, while your wife wears an Obama mask and reams you from behind with a large black dildo.

 :lol

It probably makes you feel less bad for being so evil and white.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 14, 2008, 02:25:29 PM

It's at an Obama head quarters in a local election branch in a state. Should Obama dictate the decor in every election station that works for him? We already know he has nothing in common with that murderous asshole, so what's the problem unless you're apart of the "what do we REALLY know about that black man" crowd. I know you're not that stupid.


The fact that it's even up just tells me how fucking stupid alot of his supporters are. I'm not saying that it's telling of Obama. Obama probably does know better. But his supporters at this head quarters don't.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 14, 2008, 02:25:50 PM
mmmm, che posters. ironically, i don't jack off to them because of what he stood for, but because their very presence turns erstwhile libertarians into red-faced blubbering bundles of twee.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 14, 2008, 02:31:01 PM
Che posters don't bother me it's just a good sign that whoever has them is either misinformed or an idiot, and considering this is a campaign head quarters I highly doubt they are misinformed.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 14, 2008, 02:34:02 PM
some of the judgment calls on Obama's friends are justified (Wright) but most (Ayers, etc) are so stupid. They're manufactured to create doubt about his Americanism.

obama has said he listens to jay-z. jay once said of women "beep beep and I'm pickin em up,
Let em play with the dick in the truck." could those be obama's true feelings on women? perhaps it's due to his black father having intimate relations with a white woman, and the leaving her that obama feels the same way toward women.

it's 3AM, do you want your daughter playing with obama's dick in the truck?
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2008, 02:34:24 PM
pd: get on aim
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 15, 2008, 02:34:03 AM
Quote
After his public conference call with Clinton supporters (covered extensively by Jonathan Martin) Saturday, John McCain met privately with some 75 of those supporters in his Virginia headquarters, two people who were there said.

McCain's staff extended the last-minute invitation to Clinton die-hards, including a founder of a group called "Party Unity, My Ass" (PUMA), and substantial numbers came from Washington, D.C., and New York. They represented passionate campaign volunteers and supporters, but they're essentially a marginal group in Clinton's orbit, including no one with a prominent campaign role, public office, or close relationship with the candidate.

"He stayed for a good almost half hour afterwards shaking hands, listening to our concerns, talking to us," said PUMA founder Will Bower, who said he thought many of the people there would vote for McCain.

Former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina also stayed to mingle with the crowd, whose members also included Cinton backer Harriet Christian, made momentarily famous on YouTube for getting ejected from the Rules & Bylaws press area.

Bower said he'd liked McCain's answer on judges, in which he "pointed out that he supported Bill Clinton with both Ginsberg and Breyer."

Another person who was present, but asked not to be named to avoid conflict with fellow Democrats, said he'd pressed a McCain staffer on McCain's position on same-sex marriage.

The staffer "said it was the same as [John] Kerry's position," he said.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

wow.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 16, 2008, 09:50:32 PM
Quote from: Cheebs
Whats best for the country is to get Obama elected. To do that he needs votes. Whoever the VP is that gets even a single extra vote than another should be picked IMO.

Be it Biden, Selebius, Clinton, or Hitler.

Quote from: Mandark
God forbid something should happen to Obama if he were to become president, but it's a possibility.

In the event that a President Obama did die or become incapacitated, I would prefer -- nay, strongly prefer -- not to be ruled by a president Hitler.

Quote from: Cheebs
He'd have the democrat congress keeping his antisemitism in check.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=307802&page=85

...............
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 16, 2008, 09:53:20 PM
I'd really like an RSS feed or something for Cheebs' posts. The ones I glimpse in movie topics here and there are very amusing.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 16, 2008, 09:54:55 PM
Selling my vote for $5 paypal.

I voted for Barack in the NH primary because I didn't know who he was and figured he was some local douche running for president. How wrong I was.

Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 16, 2008, 09:55:42 PM
Cheebs' post make me angry.  You wouldn't like me when I'm angry!
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 16, 2008, 09:57:41 PM
Cheebs is a smart guy but like myself he shows a pattern of speaking in authority on things that are out of his element, to use the parlance of our times. Perhaps we should stick to accounting
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 17, 2008, 12:50:02 AM
Obama's speech on fatherhood

Long Version
[youtube=425,350]Hj1hCDjwG6M[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj1hCDjwG6M&feature=bz302

Short Version
[youtube=425,350]rN2VqFPNS8w[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: Mandark on June 17, 2008, 01:38:06 AM
The Next Big Bling (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-battiata/the-next-big-bling_b_106870.html)

Quote from: Mary Battatia
Lately I've been wondering what an Obama White House might mean for the future of bling. For the fate of heavy gold, medallions, below-the-butt denim, the whole hip-hop gangsta fashion habit. What if January 20, 2009 turned out to be not just a cultural and clothing pivot point for adults -- a return to the minimalism of sleek, 60s-era sharkskin suits, the containment of golf-ball sized Barbara Bush costume pearls -- but a watershed fashion moment for teenaged boys? Picture it. On Inauguration Day next year, thousands and thousands of young men and boys from city street corners to suburbs, look up from their X-Boxes and catch a glimpse of the impeccable President Barack and First Lady Michelle Obama climbing the steps of the Capitol and suddenly feel... unfashionable. Out of it. Old. What if they are overcome by the same stunned, something's-happening-here feeling that teenagers in the early 60s, their closets full of sock hop regalia, felt when they first laid eyes on The Beatles in 1964, on the nationally televised Ed Sullivan Show. For adults, this kind of moment is, at most, something to take note of. To a teenager, it's a gale force warning of imminent social tsunami, an urgent prod from the eyeballs and the amygdala that to everything there is a season, and now is the time to change, change, change. Ask not what you can do for your closet, but what your closet, if ignored, can do to you.


Suddenly I think we need to add this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-African_flag) to the roster of weeping flags.
Title: Re: Official 2008 Election thread part II, sponsored by biblical prophecy (tm)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2008, 11:55:27 AM
Quote
Quote from: Cheebs
George [Harrison] at least lived a long life. Russert's death was sudden and far too early.

...George died at 58 too.

 :lol