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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 27, 2008, 04:52:37 PM

Title: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 27, 2008, 04:52:37 PM: In your opinion. Here's my vote:

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/96/254772260_efbc1f622f.jpg)

"1080p doesn't matter"

"Blu Ray is inferior to HDDVD"

stfu
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Mupepe on August 27, 2008, 04:54:23 PM: who the hell is that?
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Post by: cool breeze on August 27, 2008, 04:54:57 PM: Jonathan Blow
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Post by: Trent Dole on August 27, 2008, 04:55:15 PM: I don't even know who that guy in the photo is.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 27, 2008, 04:55:51 PM: MajorNelson

and yeah Kudo is a dick too. Abandons and closes his studio because he got an exec job at Microsoft :/
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: demi on August 27, 2008, 04:55:55 PM: David Jaffe
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Brehvolution on August 27, 2008, 04:56:10 PM: Quote from: Trent Dole on August 27, 2008, 04:55:15 PM
I don't even know who that guy in the photo is.
I think it's major nelson.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Solo on August 27, 2008, 04:56:12 PM: Reggie. I mean, look at that goofy bastard!
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 27, 2008, 04:56:56 PM: We need evidence on your tools. Why is Jaffe a tool?

Besides Reggie and Shiggy, they're gods in tool-dom
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Brehvolution on August 27, 2008, 04:58:17 PM: Doug Erickson

spoiler (click to show/hide)
j/k :-*
[close]
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 27, 2008, 04:59:14 PM: shigeru miyamoto, by far and away. he's this downsie mascot they roll out to cheerlead the manchildren at trade shows.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Crushed on August 27, 2008, 04:59:48 PM: Whose
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 27, 2008, 05:00:50 PM: Quote from: Zero Hero on August 27, 2008, 04:58:17 PM
Doug Erickson

lies, he's made some awesome games, like dungeon.net and coolsnakes.net
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Crushed on August 27, 2008, 05:03:11 PM: Quote from: Professor Prole on August 27, 2008, 05:00:50 PM
Quote from: Zero Hero on August 27, 2008, 04:58:17 PM
Doug Erickson

lies, he's made some awesome games, like dungeon.net and coolsnakes.net

On the other hand, he also created such monstrosities as this:

Quote
Why was that? Because most of us gamers knew in our heart of hearts that this game was going to be something special. Shigeru Miyamoto, the game's often-lauded mastermind, frequently referred to the then-underway Zelda project as potentially his greatest videogame accomplishment yet. On top of that, the Zelda series of titles from Nintendo have rarely disappointed (although opinions on 2 are as various as the colors on N64 controllers, and I'm probably the only person alive who didn't think A Link To The Past was all that scorching), and the Zelda N64 release figured hugely in Nintendo's plans for re-emergence in the Japanese marketplace. It's often considered to be a sort of elevated countercultural hipness to denigrate that which will inevitably be popular.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Brehvolution on August 27, 2008, 05:04:51 PM: :bow Doug :bow2
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 27, 2008, 05:04:59 PM: i recant: doug erickson is in fact a massive tool
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Crushed on August 27, 2008, 05:06:39 PM: Quote
It's often considered to be a sort of elevated countercultural hipness to denigrate that which will inevitably be popular.

This will be placed on Mr. Erickson's tombstone as his defining philosophy.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 27, 2008, 05:07:15 PM: let's run away together, cohen

although, in my defense, i didn't know who eiji aonuma was when i wrote that review, and was a total dumbfuck like every other teenaged reviewer out there
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: JustinP on August 27, 2008, 05:07:19 PM: itagaki
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Post by: Grecco on August 27, 2008, 05:08:33 PM: The guy from Sony Europe.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: demi on August 27, 2008, 05:14:10 PM: Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on August 27, 2008, 04:56:56 PM
We need evidence on your tools. Why is Jaffe a tool?

Besides Reggie and Shiggy, they're gods in tool-dom

Because his team hated him, he runs off to smoke pot and get fat, jerks off to miyamoto, made Calling All Cars which sucked and nobody plays now, goes online to say peoples mothers have sloppy cunts, is ugly, is probably a jew and also uncircumsized
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Jansen on August 27, 2008, 05:14:21 PM: larry herb is your vote? :lol

you should at least pick someone that has some say in the shit they spew. like denis dyack.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Oblivion on August 27, 2008, 05:14:57 PM: David Jaffe and Denis Dyack.

Goofy PR folk >>>>>>>>>> interweb tough guys.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Crushed on August 27, 2008, 05:16:12 PM: Quote from: demi on August 27, 2008, 05:14:10 PM
is probably a jew and also uncircumsized

???
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Rman on August 27, 2008, 05:17:00 PM: David Jaffe. He comes of so smug in interviews--print or podcasts.
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Post by: y2kev on August 27, 2008, 05:23:28 PM: roberta williams
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 27, 2008, 05:24:46 PM: you all are, for even knowing these people's names
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: demi on August 27, 2008, 05:29:33 PM: Quote from: Eel O'Brian on August 27, 2008, 05:24:46 PM
you all are, for even knowing these people's names

No different from knowing the director of a movie
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Tabasco on August 27, 2008, 05:30:51 PM: Quote from: demi on August 27, 2008, 04:55:55 PM
David Jaffe

real answer
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 27, 2008, 05:38:05 PM: Quote from: Wicked Laharl on August 27, 2008, 05:14:21 PM
larry herb is your vote? :lol

you should at least pick someone that has some say in the shit they spew. like denis dyack.

xbot
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Jansen on August 27, 2008, 05:45:18 PM: why yes, yes i am.

thanks for noticing.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 27, 2008, 05:46:20 PM: I bet you enjoy sucking dicks of old PR men
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on August 27, 2008, 06:38:14 PM: It's either Derek Smart or Dennis Dyack, I can't choose.

Oh, wait...

[youtube=425,350]tIn1_9YvGds[/youtube]

:rofl
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Ninja on August 27, 2008, 06:39:40 PM: Hmm, Dyack or Itagaki.. well, Itagaki has put out a good game in the last 5 years, so Dyack it is.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: WrikaWrek on August 27, 2008, 06:40:23 PM: Dyack

David Jaffe
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 27, 2008, 06:41:24 PM: If this thread was on GAF i'm sure the mods would be perusing it looking for their names, as they think they are infact in the gaming industry.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Jansen on August 27, 2008, 06:46:36 PM: well bish is. never heard him talk any smack tho.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Crushed on August 27, 2008, 06:47:36 PM: Quote from: ferrarimanf355 on August 27, 2008, 06:38:14 PM
It's either Derek Smart or Dennis Dyack, I can't choose.

Oh, wait...

[youtube=425,350]tIn1_9YvGds[/youtube]

:rofl

Yeah, Dyack gets compared to ol' "Dr." Derek Smart a lot, (even Malka saying that Dyack surpassed him) but it's really not even close.

Dyack at least worked on several high-profile and well-received games before Too Human; Derek Smart was some dude with a fake doctorate who was claiming his first game would revolutionize PC gaming.
Too Human is mediocre; Battlecruiser 3000AD was literally unplayable.
Dyack popped up once every three weeks or so on GAF to post something stupid or maybe trade a few arguments with a detractor before leaving; Derek Smart spent hours upon hours on IRC every day getting into long flamewars.
Dyack got butthurt by a message board; Derek Smart attacked a Coke machine in his publisher's lobby.

But of course, it's almost hard to classify Derek Smart as an actual part of "the gaming industry" seeing how he was such an abject failure.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Bildi on August 27, 2008, 07:07:59 PM: David Jaffe - ugh.

Peter Molyneux - I don't actually dislike him but the guy doesn't have one ounce of modesty in him. Churns out great games though so I skip his drivel and play his games. :heartbeat
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Draft on August 27, 2008, 07:53:48 PM: Dyack. Come on.

Check yourself before you hate on Miyamoto. He might be a crazy asshole at this point, but he also basically invented the modern videogame. Dude is a living legend and deserves your respect. Even if he keeps up the crazy manchild act till the day he keels over from a soiled panty overdose.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: permutated on August 27, 2008, 07:55:36 PM: Quote from: demi on August 27, 2008, 04:55:55 PM
David Jaffe

For once I agree with you. The guy has talent for sure, but his last few games...meh.

Twisted Metal has always been overrated, Calling All Cars was boring and repetitive, his only big hit is God Of War.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: y2kev on August 27, 2008, 07:55:46 PM: i can't hate jaffe. he frequently and readily admits that he sucks.
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Post by: Draft on August 27, 2008, 07:56:27 PM: What did Jaffe do on Twisted Metal, anyway?

Wasn't he just the model for the monster truck drivers?
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: pilonv1 on August 27, 2008, 07:59:07 PM: kojima
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Post by: Bildi on August 27, 2008, 07:59:49 PM: I think the way some communities and commentators spin on Jaffe's cock makes him more unlikable.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 27, 2008, 08:12:22 PM: Shane Bettenhausen
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: pilonv1 on August 27, 2008, 08:15:53 PM: Quote from: Bildi on August 27, 2008, 07:59:49 PM
I think the way some communities and commentators spin on Jaffe's cock makes him more unlikable.

you shouldn't be judging a tool on the community though, just on their performance and output. Miyamoto and Kojima have set gaming back decades.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: chronovore on August 27, 2008, 08:20:00 PM: Kojima doesn't strike me as being a cock, just that Konami is PR-spinning their one auteur into something bigger than he is; nothing new about the cult of celebrity.

Jaffe is one of my pet peeves ever since the first GoW blog entry where he seemed utterly banal, and has never proven otherwise either in interviews or his own blog. Every other word is an expletive; the man's vocabulary is limited. But a game designer's work is inherently tied to communication, both in showing the player how to use the game, and way, way prior to that in explaining the foundations of those ideas to the rest of the dev team.

I don't see what's wrong with Miyamoto so much as Nintendo has not allowed any of his proteges (or even non-Miyamoto influenced designers) to share in the spotlight. I guess they can't be utterly assured that anyone else will stay the course with the company as faithfully as Shiggy has?

Who is the biggest tool? Who the hell was the PR flack for EA when EA Spouse broke wide? Rusty something... (googles) Rueff. That guy, defending EA's unpaid overtime policy when the company eventually paid out, that's sad for an HR guy. I remember when HR would actually go to bat for the workers instead of finding ways to shiv them.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 27, 2008, 08:20:45 PM: Quote from: Crushed on August 27, 2008, 06:47:36 PM
Quote from: ferrarimanf355 on August 27, 2008, 06:38:14 PM
It's either Derek Smart or Dennis Dyack, I can't choose.

Oh, wait...

[youtube=425,350]tIn1_9YvGds[/youtube]

:rofl

Yeah, Dyack gets compared to ol' "Dr." Derek Smart a lot, (even Malka saying that Dyack surpassed him) but it's really not even close.

Dyack at least worked on several high-profile and well-received games before Too Human; Derek Smart was some dude with a fake doctorate who was claiming his first game would revolutionize PC gaming.
Too Human is mediocre; Battlecruiser 3000AD was literally unplayable.
Dyack popped up once every three weeks or so on GAF to post something stupid or maybe trade a few arguments with a detractor before leaving; Derek Smart spent hours upon hours on IRC every day getting into long flamewars.
Dyack got butthurt by a message board; Derek Smart attacked a Coke machine in his publisher's lobby.

But of course, it's almost hard to classify Derek Smart as an actual part of "the gaming industry" seeing how he was such an abject failure.

You forgot:

Dyack spent 10 years making Too Human and in the end, nobody cared. Derek Smart has spent 12 years releasing patches and updates of a game people stopped caring about at least 14 years ago.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Bildi on August 27, 2008, 08:28:05 PM: Quote from: pilonv1 on August 27, 2008, 08:15:53 PM
Quote from: Bildi on August 27, 2008, 07:59:49 PM
I think the way some communities and commentators spin on Jaffe's cock makes him more unlikable.

you shouldn't be judging a tool on the community though, just on their performance and output. Miyamoto and Kojima have set gaming back decades.

I agree - I didn't like Jaffe much to begin with though.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Oblivion on August 27, 2008, 08:39:07 PM: Quote from: chronovore on August 27, 2008, 08:20:00 PM
I don't see what's wrong with Miyamoto so much as Nintendo has not allowed any of his proteges (or even non-Miyamoto influenced designers) to share in the spotlight. I guess they can't be utterly assured that anyone else will stay the course with the company as faithfully as Shiggy has

That's patently untrue. Aonuma has been getting interviews since the days of Majora's Mask, and he's damn well known as the current go to Zelda guy by everyone in gaming. The Mario Galaxy director has been bombarded with adulation and acknowledgement ever since that game was finished. 9/10 times you probably don't hear too much from most of the other designers at Nintendo is because many of them don't seem to want to do interview (at least that was the case with the likes of Takashi Tezuka anyway). So basically, I doubt it's cause the Nintendo higher ups worry about taking the spotlight away from Miyamoto.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: originalz on August 27, 2008, 08:55:58 PM: Derek Smart still releases games, he recently started up some new episodic content, said that if you played his game and didn't like it, he'd personally refund the money.

His forums are so funny. Some guy was talking about how this new game had strange graphic effects and looked ugly, and Smart came off and called him a "fool", saying that it was intentional and gave a bunch of techno-babble about why that was.

As much shit as Smart gets, you gotta admire the guy. His games are extremely deep and have a ton of potential, and he's more or less doing everything on his own. If he had a competent team behind him, he could probably make one of the greatest games, but his ego won't let anyone else share in his glory. The worst part is the damn techno-jargon that he throws around in his games. The manual is the size of a phonebook, but the game is impossible to play unless you read and memorize everything. Hundreds of acronyms, technical terms, buttons on a spacecraft, etc. The learning curve is absurd.
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Post by: bagofeyes on August 27, 2008, 09:08:45 PM: the guy bringing the dreamcast back in 2009
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 27, 2008, 09:11:33 PM: i didn't know who derek smart was, so i looked him up

yeah, he comes off as an arrogant tool, but he can't be all bad - he always releases his games for free download a year or so after they come out, that strikes me as pretty cool, actually
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Smooth Groove on August 27, 2008, 09:40:30 PM: Not sure about the OP's question but Nvidia's boss probably has the smallest one.

(http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/611/key11.jpg)
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 27, 2008, 10:00:18 PM: Hilary Goldstein
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: etiolate on August 27, 2008, 10:34:07 PM: Kojima - So much harm done to the industry, so many cocksuckers at his feet, so little clue to his own media
Dyack - Disciple of Kojima, turned dumber the moment he got closer to Kojima, no self awareness or control
Jason Rubin - Career based on copying and pasting others. The distinguished mentally-challenged edginess of his platformers.

PR not included because it's basically their job to be tools.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Cormacaroni on August 27, 2008, 10:38:56 PM: Tetsuya Nomura
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Post by: Bildi on August 27, 2008, 10:59:51 PM: Oh oh! Perrin Kaplan!

She might have been PR but she was still a tool of the highest order.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 27, 2008, 11:02:53 PM: jason rubin is also a freakin' gifted programmer

smh @ etoilet
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: etiolate on August 27, 2008, 11:08:20 PM: And I forgot pervy sexist Itagaki.

And Rubin is a tool for lifting levels from Mario games to stick in his Crash games, then coming back with the virtual Douchebag of Jak and talking about 'attitude'. Jesus Christ. Don't diss what you steal from.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on August 27, 2008, 11:21:26 PM: Quote from: Crushed on August 27, 2008, 06:47:36 PM
Quote from: ferrarimanf355 on August 27, 2008, 06:38:14 PM
It's either Derek Smart or Dennis Dyack, I can't choose.

Oh, wait...

[youtube=425,350]tIn1_9YvGds[/youtube]

:rofl

Yeah, Dyack gets compared to ol' "Dr." Derek Smart a lot, (even Malka saying that Dyack surpassed him) but it's really not even close.

Dyack at least worked on several high-profile and well-received games before Too Human; Derek Smart was some dude with a fake doctorate who was claiming his first game would revolutionize PC gaming.
Too Human is mediocre; Battlecruiser 3000AD was literally unplayable.
Dyack popped up once every three weeks or so on GAF to post something stupid or maybe trade a few arguments with a detractor before leaving; Derek Smart spent hours upon hours on IRC every day getting into long flamewars.
Dyack got butthurt by a message board; Derek Smart attacked a Coke machine in his publisher's lobby.

But of course, it's almost hard to classify Derek Smart as an actual part of "the gaming industry" seeing how he was such an abject failure.
This post deserves a headbanging Castle Crasher.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/ferrarimanf355/knightdance2_2.gif)
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: duckman2000 on August 27, 2008, 11:24:22 PM: That Sakaguchi dude. Any dude who can be given basically free reigns to do whatever the hell he wants and then shit out Lost Odyssey, well he has got to be a bastard.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: permutated on August 27, 2008, 11:26:43 PM: Quote from: duckman2000 on August 27, 2008, 11:24:22 PM
That Sakaguchi dude. Any dude who can be given basically free reigns to do whatever the hell he wants and then shit out Lost Odyssey, well he has got to be a bastard.

LO wasn't THAT bad, it wasn't Blue Dragon...thankfully.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Bocsius on August 27, 2008, 11:28:09 PM: Quote from: Eel O'Brian on August 27, 2008, 05:24:46 PM
you all are, for even knowing these people's names

This one right here.

I might amend it to "for even caring."
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Cormacaroni on August 27, 2008, 11:29:30 PM: Quote from: duckman2000 on August 27, 2008, 11:24:22 PM
That Sakaguchi dude. Any dude who can be given basically free reigns to do whatever the hell he wants and then shit out Lost Odyssey, well he has got to be a bastard.

a big budget doesn't magically make him uber-talented now does it

same with Mizuguchi for 99 Nights (a far worse game by all accounts). Talented, well-meaning people are frequently involved in sub-par games.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2008, 11:38:31 PM: The Houser Brothers.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: duckman2000 on August 28, 2008, 12:13:49 AM: Quote from: permutated on August 27, 2008, 11:26:43 PM
LO wasn't THAT bad, it wasn't Blue Dragon...thankfully.

It is the worst game that I have ever played. That bad. If Blue Dragon is worse still, then he's an even bigger douche than I had thought.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 28, 2008, 12:23:02 AM: Quote from: Himuro on August 27, 2008, 11:38:31 PM
The Houser Brothers.

STFU.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2008, 01:48:53 AM: no words. duckman, no words.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 28, 2008, 02:02:34 AM: miyamoto. had a spark when he started but now he's just garbage
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 28, 2008, 02:06:58 AM: Is he the biggest tool because he acts like one or is it because a bunch of 300 lb pasty nerds think him on the same level as Voltaire or Shakespeare?
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: duckman2000 on August 28, 2008, 02:10:34 AM: Quote from: Himuro on August 28, 2008, 01:48:53 AM
no words. duckman, no words.

Yeah, I'm nearly speechless at its incredible shittiness too. God damn what an abomination. Is this what JRPGs are usually like?
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Vizzys on August 28, 2008, 02:15:50 AM: nobody fucks with the gooch
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: permutated on August 28, 2008, 02:23:45 AM: Quote from: duckman2000 on August 28, 2008, 12:13:49 AM
Quote from: permutated on August 27, 2008, 11:26:43 PM
LO wasn't THAT bad, it wasn't Blue Dragon...thankfully.

It is the worst game that I have ever played. That bad. If Blue Dragon is worse still, then he's an even bigger douche than I had thought.

I'd rather play an eternity of Lost Odyseey, than the last 3 Final Fantasy games.

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on August 28, 2008, 02:21:36 AM
If LO is the worst game you've ever played, you haven't played many games, and as such we shouldn't take your opinion on games seriously in the slightest.

ROFL, I was going to post this too.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: duckman2000 on August 28, 2008, 02:25:24 AM: I played what I need to play to know that it's rotten at its core. Ring achievement, does that involve that ring attack crap? The shit you get in the section that comes after slogging away in the dumbest battle ever (that machine before the meteor)? But hey, at least in combat you aren't tricked into thinking that you can actually go exploring, only to be interrupted by a cutscene (in-game or CG) nearly immediately after they give you shit control over the character. It's also awesome how there is a fucking load screen every 30ft (or less) of barren, ugly environment. Pure shit, this one.

And no, I haven't played a lot of JRPGs. That doesn't make this any less shit. And people complain about MGS4 not having enough game in it, good grief. This makes MGS seem like your common action brawler.

Quote from: dcharlie on August 28, 2008, 02:18:14 AM
Biggest dick : me , clearly. Let me check yours gamertags!

Well, apparently you're too good to accept my friend request. :gloomy
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: permutated on August 28, 2008, 02:25:43 AM: Quote from: duckman2000 on August 28, 2008, 02:10:34 AM
Quote from: Himuro on August 28, 2008, 01:48:53 AM
no words. duckman, no words.

Yeah, I'm nearly speechless at its incredible shittiness too. God damn what an abomination. Is this what JRPGs are usually like?

Your credibility is dropping faster than Dyack's.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: permutated on August 28, 2008, 02:26:44 AM: Quote from: duckman2000 on August 28, 2008, 02:25:24 AM
I played what I need to play to know that it's rotten at its core. Ring achievement, does that involve that ring attack crap? The shit you get in the section that comes after slogging away in the dumbest battle ever (that machine before the meteor)? But hey, at least in combat you aren't tricked into thinking that you can actually go exploring, only to be interrupted by a cutscene (in-game or CG) nearly immediately after they give you shit control over the character. It's also awesome how there is a fucking load screen every 30ft (or less) of barren, ugly environment. Pure shit, this one.

And no, I haven't played a lot of JRPGs.

No doubt, and for the record I dont like RPG's either. I just think LO is one of the better ones in recent memory.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: duckman2000 on August 28, 2008, 02:29:40 AM: Quote from: permutated on August 28, 2008, 02:23:45 AM
I'd rather play an eternity of Lost Odyseey, than the last 3 Final Fantasy games.

I've never played a Final Fantasy game. I played some RPGs on Gamecube, like that Tales game which was a ton better than this garbage, and some game called Baten Kaitos, which was lame, but not as aggressively shit as this one.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: demi on August 28, 2008, 02:37:50 AM: Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon were two of the freshest RPGs I had played in the past few years.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: Tundra on August 28, 2008, 03:50:11 AM: Ah, the weekly "Hate on Gamedesigner" thread....

I choose Miyamoto. He gets his name and fame plastered on everything Nintendo releases, even if he had no other input than pissing on the developers of said release.

Plus his "sensual Sax performance" at the E3. Oh my god, what a complete fool he made of himself there...
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: JustinP on August 28, 2008, 03:53:59 AM: i wasn't including quality of games in my vote. you can be a tool and still put out good games. although all forms of DOA are awful.
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: tiesto on August 28, 2008, 09:15:06 AM: Quote from: permutated on August 28, 2008, 02:23:45 AM
Quote from: duckman2000 on August 28, 2008, 12:13:49 AM
Quote from: permutated on August 27, 2008, 11:26:43 PM
LO wasn't THAT bad, it wasn't Blue Dragon...thankfully.

It is the worst game that I have ever played. That bad. If Blue Dragon is worse still, then he's an even bigger douche than I had thought.

I'd rather play an eternity of Lost Odyseey, than the last 3 Final Fantasy games.

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on August 28, 2008, 02:21:36 AM
If LO is the worst game you've ever played, you haven't played many games, and as such we shouldn't take your opinion on games seriously in the slightest.

ROFL, I was going to post this too.

WTF is wrong with Lost Odyssey? It's got its flaws (what game doesn't?) but like others said, it was certainly much better than the last few FF games. Ditto for Blue Dragon... not sure if I preferred BD or LO though when all things are said and done.

Apparently Duckman hasn't played past the first area? I am speechless... who judges 50+ hour long RPGs on the first half hour?
Title: Re: Whose the biggest tool in the videogame industry?
Post by: duckman2000 on August 28, 2008, 10:32:40 AM: Well, who in the hell puts 50+ hours into this kind of rotten garbage? Walk a few steps in a shitty looking landscape, kick something to get a treasure, then walk straight into super dramatic showdown number 00019. But hey, at least that beats walking through tiny environments from elevator to elevator, or suffering through one of those poorly directed, shit looking cut-scenes with fancy fancy split-screen stuff.