THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Borys on September 24, 2008, 05:55:54 PM
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it's like gears of war raped a ps2 jrpg and this is the freakish baby that its fundie mother neglected to abort
edit: still guaranteed to play and run better than mass effect. DISBAND BIOWARE NOW
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man thats kinds ugs, hope it plays ok
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That's some clutter right there. I think I need some Advil.
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this game is going to suck
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fingers crossed for good achievements
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Looks like hi-res FF12.
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Looks like hi-res FF12.
Yeah I said that about IU and look how that turned out, lol
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Looks like shit.
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*crosses off list*
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yeah im not sure im gonna bother.
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finally some s-e support for wii
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could be good
waiting for a review
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Doesn't look great, but it's turn-based!!
:bow TURN-BASED RPGS :bow2
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Looks like shit.
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When will a quality next gen RPG come out of Japan?
Blue Dragon? Shit
Lost Oddysee? Shit
Tales of whatever? Shit
Infinite Undiscovery? Shit
Last Remnant? Shit
Wait for White Knight Chronicles.
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Looks fine to me, I dig the character and enemy designs. esp. Emma, pretty rare to actually have an older female character in a JRPG. Yusuke Naora :bow
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Looks like shit.
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When will a quality next gen RPG come out of Japan?
Blue Dragon? Shit
Lost Oddysee? Shit
Tales of whatever? Shit
Infinite Undiscovery? Shit
Last Remnant? Shit
Wait for White Knight Chronicles.
'Wait for White Knight Chronicles' is also shit
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Oh wow MrBob, no taste.
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Someone obviously didn't play Tales of whatever.
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Tales of Vesp is fantastic, both Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey are solid games, even if their greatness is arguable.
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wait for final fantasy 13 on the superior xbox 360 :bow
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it's turn based? already better than IU
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Needs Anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering badly. Like tons of both. Hooray for the PC release!
And this game is UE3, right?
Someone obviously didn't play Tales of whatever.
If it wasn't so saccharine sweet and stereotypical, I would have. I'm always very turned off by the art style in the Tales games.
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is anyone still actively anticipating this after IU?
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is anyone still actively anticipating this after IU?
I don't see how the two are related...Tri-ace is making this?
anyway, this looks more interesting than IU.
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i've looked into it and i don't think there are any young kids, young sibling childrem spellcasters, or palom and porom knockoffs with high pitched, squeeky voices that would only make to annoy the player.
this is a wonderful start.
can you say the same for infinite undiscovery? i think not. which is why although it piqued my interest with a real-time battle system - however flawed - it still went to the bottom of my list.
also, i don't see how this game looks like shit, but maybe i'm not as picky or don't have pc gaming experience.
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i've looked into it and i don't think there are any young kids, young sibling childrem spellcasters, or palom and porom knockoffs with high pitched, squeeky voices that would only make to annoy the player.
this is a wonderful start.
can you say the same for infinite undiscovery? i think not. which is why although it piqued my interest with a real-time battle system - however flawed - it still went to the bottom of my list.
also, i don't see how this game looks like shit, but maybe i'm not as picky or don't have pc gaming experience.
Nothing about the interface or art style is all that bad. The models are pretty jaggy and the textures are not crisp at all though. And there's some odd fog in the distance, even though it appears to be a pretty clear day. Basically, typical UE3 shit, but nothing that can't be fixed after the fact on a PC.
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Last Remnant is going to be turn based?
:hyper :hyper :hyper
I've read multiple articles that refer to it as having a turn-based battle system.
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I actually haven't played LO yet...but it looks like a big time FF clone. I did try the BD demo and I couldn't believe how archaic it felt.
I just want to see evolution from Japanese RPGS....they feel too old and traditional to me now. Tales could be decent, but thats because Namco releases like 6 a year and iterate on them every time. IU dissapointment total, I worry about SO4 now. :(
Hopefully SO4 brings something new to the japanese rpg genre.
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I actually haven't played LO yet...but it looks like a big time FF clone.
The battle system is reminiscent of Shadow Hearts, actually. But yeah, Mistwalker was going for an overall Final Fantasy feel.
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:lol Why do people always ask for some evolution in a genre? Find me one example of evolution in a genre. They're all the same, plus some sort f gimmick to fool you into thinking its evolution.
Evolution is the worst buzzword since next-gen or Cell
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This gen's rpgs have been wholly disappointing. I haven't played X, VII, or VI in a long time, so I'm replaying those right now instead.
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I'm not asking to reinvent the wheel, but I see more evolution in the yearly sports games I buy than the last 10 years of Japanese RPGs.
Why can't it be something small like IU where maybe give us online co op?
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I don't want evolution. I honestly want to keep playing turn-based RPGs with ever-improving graphics.
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I'm not asking to reinvent the wheel, but I see more evolution in the yearly sports games I buy than the last 10 years of Japanese RPGs.
Why can't it be something small like IU where maybe give us online co op?
It's a sports game. You run, you catch the ball. You can now play with sliders. Big whoop. No evolution. You enjoy it because you're a meathead who happens to love running and catching balls.
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:lol
And now I can do it online with 12 other meatheads in brand new online dynasty mode!
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:lol
And now I can do it online with 12 other meatheads in brand new online dynasty mode!
No evolution, still.
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I'm not asking to reinvent the wheel, but I see more evolution in the yearly sports games I buy than the last 10 years of Japanese RPGs.
Why can't it be something small like IU where maybe give us online co op?
Have you been asleep for the past 10 years? Or just not paying attention to the genre at all? To say there's no innovation or evolution in the genre is pretty ignorant.
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I don't want evolution in gameplay. Plenty of games try out new systems, some work, some don't.
It's usually the stories, characters, art design, etc. that really keep the genre from reaching its potential. I know it's hard for serious anime freaks to understand, but people are turned off by the typical fantasy anime style and inevitable batch of cliches that comes with it. Not to say there can't be anime influence, but its usually shoved in your face in a jrpg.
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Looks like shit.
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When will a quality next gen RPG come out of Japan?
Blue Dragon? Shit
Lost Oddysee? Shit
Tales of whatever? Shit
Infinite Undiscovery? Shit
Last Remnant? Shit
Wait for White Knight Chronicles.
I guess you forgot that Level-5 is developing WKC. lol at everything they've made that isn't on the DS.
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yeah well, if you dont like jrpgs stfu and gtfo
bububu anime in yo face, no evolution, I need a dramatic paradigm shift with my day to day gaming, I need waggle and online co-op
the jrpg genre is what it is, just give up if you cant enjoy it
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Looks like shit.
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When will a quality next gen RPG come out of Japan?
Blue Dragon? Shit
Lost Oddysee? Shit
Tales of whatever? Shit
Infinite Undiscovery? Shit
Last Remnant? Shit
Wait for White Knight Chronicles.
I hate doing that whole 'fix' thing, so I won't, but everything LO, BD, and IU are mediocre. Last Remnant looks awful and probably will be shit. WKC will probably be mediocre. Tales of Vesperia is amazing and the only truly great j-rpg this gen.
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Vesperia is far from great, but yes, it's easily the best JRPG this generation.
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Vesperia is great and youre stupid. I rule.
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(http://i34.tinypic.com/30arn1v.jpg)
dats sum ghey shiz.
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Well tbh, Vesperia is the best RPG this gen. It's much better than all of that BioWare/Bethesda BS. It's just not saying much because the story is kinda ehhhhhhh...yet exciting at the same time.
SMT4 THE DEFINITIVE NEXT-GEN RPG EXPERIENCE.
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The story in Vesperia is good enough. The dialogue is snappy and quick while the whole political situation between guilds and the government keeps my interest. I think where I am not it is getting a bit stale because they are moving towards the usual 'save the world' stuff and all that, even so it is still enjoyable. The characters are also great. The entire cast of characters, both those in your party or not, are all great.
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Let's see
Blue Dragon - Amazing
Enchanted Arms - Amazing
Eternal Sonata - Shit
Lost Odyssey - Amazing
Operation Darkness - Amazing
Vesperia - Shit
IU - Amazing
Last Remnant - Amazing
Star Ocean - Shit
Persona 4 - Shit
KH CoM - Amazing
Looks good to me. Last Remnant will do alright.
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Well tbh, Vesperia is the best RPG this gen. It's much better than all of that BioWare/Bethesda BS. It's just not saying much because the story is kinda ehhhhhhh...yet exciting at the same time.
SMT4 THE DEFINITIVE NEXT-GEN RPG EXPERIENCE.
SMT 4 indeed. Or anything made by R+D.
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-lost odyssey was awesome. it was turn based, old style, and a nod to final fantasy but just different enough that there is no ff feel to it graphically or storywise (except for those fucking kids, oh how i wished they would die). the character designs were good enough, but better than other jrpgs, the dialogue was good - turning to awesome when jansen cracks his jokes. for me the dreams were the best part of the game and the sidequests weren't too difficult as to be unaccomplishable. i DEFINITELY recommend it for rpg fans, especially those that have played rpgs since snes.
-i made up an rpg from start to finish, story included though the gameplay elements need to be tweeked, and i feel that it is very original. unfortunately i'm not going to post details of it or the plot points because it might get stolen. i talked to a friend in the gaming industry and he told me that aside from making it myself there is no way to sell it to anyone without getting ripped off. i wish i knew what i could do and i wasn't paranoid, but it am.
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-lost odyssey was awesome.
Totally, if you like the worst "game" of all time
Lost Odyssey - Amazing
demi=for. I'd say that settles that.
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lost odyssey is a great game. only a moron or a jaded asshole would consider it to be mediocre or worse.
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-lost odyssey was awesome.
Totally, if you like the worst "game" of all time
Lost Odyssey - Amazing
demi=for. I'd say that settles that.
You're missing a chunk of your brain. What do you know.
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is he? / :(
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Yep
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-lost odyssey was awesome.
Totally, if you like the worst "game" of all time
I don't think your brief playtime gives you enough experience to make such a judgment.
Yo guyz I played that Half Life man that game sucked just moved around in some car and talked to scientists I wanted to blow shit up I stopped playing after 5 minutes worst game of all time.
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I'm just so baffled by the fact that the writer who did the 1,000 Year Dreams wasn't asked to do the entire story. Would've been the best JRPG this gen if it didn't have such a shitty story and didn't have a graphics engine that couldn't render hair and fingers.
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I'm baffled someone else couldn't write your posts instead
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I'm just so baffled by the fact that the writer who did the 1,000 Year Dreams wasn't asked to do the entire story. Would've been the best JRPG this gen if it didn't have such a shitty story and didn't have a graphics engine that couldn't render hair and fingers.
WHAT, AND LEAVE SAKAGUCHI SAMA OUT OF THE LOOP?
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i don't think any jrpg story will be as good as it could be because it's japanese writing. it's typical, contrived, and sappy. the guy that wrote the "1000 years" stories was clearly pulling from fables and philosophies and all of them were circulated around a central dark them of finding purpose in meaninglessness and the human condition. hell, if you like that stuff maybe you'd like "the plague" by camus.
unfortunately good writing isn't what makes a story. i was just at a job fair yesterday and i saw what konami was hiring and they weren't looking for quality. i was also told that i couldn't apply at sony since i haven't just graduated. yes, that's right, they wouldn't even look at me because i've got experience and that makes me unmaliable. fuck them.
story driven rpgs are a thing of the past - i realized this after playing oblivion - just like 2d, but it's dying hard. there are going to be plenty of cool games and lots of innovative stuff, but i don't see that happening with rpgs. that's kind of why i feel like some of you are shitting on one of the only jrpgs coming our way for a while that might be pretty good but you don't like it because of graphics. maybe they weren't given enough time to take care of it or brush it up because of budget restrictions. i could see some suit telling a japanese poor nerd that he needs to hurry the fuck up and square enix doesn't have the time or fucking money to deal with this bullshit and there's the nerd just bowing repeatedly and apologizing like the japanese tend to do.
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i don't think any jrpg story will be as good as it could be because it's japanese writing.
lol
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Tales of Vesperia helped me realize that what my problem is with RPG stories isn't so much the 'story' itself, but with the pacing and dialogue. IU was almost unbearable with the slow dialogue and pausing, but Vesperia has quick, snappy dialogue that is enjoyable and gets you to the next battle section easily.
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I'm just so baffled by the fact that the writer who did the 1,000 Year Dreams wasn't asked to do the entire story. Would've been the best JRPG this gen if it didn't have such a shitty story and didn't have a graphics engine that couldn't render hair and fingers.
WHAT, AND LEAVE SAKAGUCHI SAMA OUT OF THE LOOP?
:lol
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there are atleast two people in this thread who commented negatively on lost odyssey that haven't even played the game according to their gamertags.
i'm sure they played it at their friends house tho. ::)
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Lost Odyssey had a lot going for it, and was a great game, would have been much more amazing if:
-The bosses remained challenging throughout the game, not just were frontloaded at the beginning
-The villain wasn't laughable with shitty design
-The game didn't keep locking up and giving me DRE's :-\
What LO had going for it:
-Some awesome cutscenes
-Some extremely nice looking areas and art direction
-The 1000 Year Dreams, some of the best writing I've ever seen in a game
-Jansen
-Decent music, although I've heard better from Nobuo
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-The villain wasn't laughable with shitty design
this was my major complaint with the game. cutscenes that were supposed to be serious in tone were ofter hilarious because of gongora.
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I thought it was really great. Very entertaining. I suppose the final boss could have been more epic. I always anticipate the final fight in RPGs, I want some sort of bang. At least the cutscenes during the end were really great.
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there are atleast two people in this thread who commented negatively on lost odyssey that haven't even played the game according to their gamertags.
i'm sure they played it at their friends house tho. ::)
If one of them is me, I do admit that I did play at a friends house (actually apartment), not the complete game or anything, but enough to think that I could judge it and know that I didn't really want to pick up and play the game for hours to find when I would enjoy it. I played maybe 30 minutes to an hour each at three different point. I didn't think it was bad or anything, and probably is better than Infinite Undiscovery, but it just didn't interest me to pursue it further.
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Lost Odyssey was a good old traditional romp. I enjoyed the gameplay a lot. I think the story melts at the end of disk 2. But it was still fun.
I think Vesperia is better. I think IU is the worst of the three.
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Fuck Lost Odyssey. They fucking killed off the only likable character in the game. That character even has the best backstory. >:(
BTW, the music was great. Very memorable, unlike Vesperia's shit. And Gongora was fucking amazing. The bitch almost took over the world in HIGH HEELS.
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Shut up moran.
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I'd love to see a Lost Odyssey sequel, but instead of it being one cohesive game, have it broken up into smaller vignettes, each taking place in a different time/place, similar to the 1000 Years of Dreams, tie it all together subtly towards the end of the game.
Actually something that would be cool about this... you start with different skills and levels depending on what vignette you do, one that takes place later in Kaim's life would start you out much more powerful, but earlier ones would start you off with barely anything and you will have to be more thoughtful in your actions.
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i don't think any jrpg story will be as good as it could be because it's japanese.
fixed.