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Title: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 05, 2008, 11:23:01 PM
I'm wonder what EB's opinion is of who the best songwriter ever is?
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 05, 2008, 11:24:29 PM
Lennon.

/end thread
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 05, 2008, 11:26:39 PM
I disagree and go with Dylan.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 05, 2008, 11:28:14 PM
I'm assuming that songwriting includes musical composition. If that's the case, it's not Dylan, it's Lennon.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Cormacaroni on November 05, 2008, 11:28:47 PM
Cole Porter.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Mupepe on November 05, 2008, 11:30:25 PM
Rob Thomas
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Robo on November 05, 2008, 11:30:45 PM
Song for song, David Bowie tops Lennon.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Greatness Gone on November 05, 2008, 11:31:50 PM
What's up with people proclaiming Cobain as the best lyricist ever? I mean, I like some of his music, but his stuff is way too abstract to decipher reasonably. I bet he wrote all of his songs while hyped up on drugs.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 05, 2008, 11:37:01 PM
YOU TREAT ME LIKE A HEART SHAPED BOX


Also Malek stfu, you know nothing about beatles. Dylan >>> Lennon
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 05, 2008, 11:41:07 PM
You all know what I'd say, but I'm not gonna cause you all hate him, so meh
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 05, 2008, 11:46:34 PM
Song for song, David Bowie tops Lennon.
Hell yeah.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 05, 2008, 11:48:32 PM
YOU TREAT ME LIKE A HEART SHAPED BOX


Also Malek stfu, you know nothing about beatles. Dylan >>> Lennon

Neil Young>>>>>>Dylan
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 05, 2008, 11:52:41 PM
Hank Williams >>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 05, 2008, 11:57:22 PM
YOU TREAT ME LIKE A HEART SHAPED BOX


Also Malek stfu, you know nothing about beatles. Dylan >>> Lennon

Neil Young>>>>>>Dylan

Agreed.

Oh, and John Lennon.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 06, 2008, 12:00:09 AM
I am listening to Plastic Ono Band.

So fucking good.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: xnikki118x on November 06, 2008, 12:01:37 AM
YOU TREAT ME LIKE A HEART SHAPED BOX


Also Malek stfu, you know nothing about beatles. Dylan >>> Lennon

Actually it's "I've been locked inside your heart-shaped box". :)

But yeah, I love Nirvana but Cobain definitely isn't the best lyricist ever.


I'm going to add Billy Joel to this thread. And for musical compositon, Elton John.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 06, 2008, 12:03:17 AM
tool
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 06, 2008, 12:04:51 AM
I don't even know Tool

Dylan>Cohen>Springsteen>Lennon>blah blah blah
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 06, 2008, 12:07:57 AM
I don't know how it happened, but this thread lead me to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eght2pdzTA
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 06, 2008, 12:08:44 AM
Avril Lavigne

Few lyricists are able to capture the raw energy from teenagers today and elucidate it in terms that everyone across the world can enjoy and better yet, understand, like she can.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 06, 2008, 12:10:58 AM
Lenin
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Trent Dole on November 06, 2008, 12:13:39 AM
I don't know how it happened, but this thread lead me to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eght2pdzTA
so gay
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 06, 2008, 12:15:02 AM
My top 3 would go something like this, all imo of course:

1. John Lennon
2. David Bowie
3. Roger Waters

:tomato
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 06, 2008, 12:22:46 AM
I'm disappointed at the lack of Steven Tyler and Chris Martin being mentioned
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 06, 2008, 12:24:32 AM
I'm disappointed at the lack of Steven Tyler and Chris Martin being mentioned

You spelled relieved incorrectly.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 06, 2008, 12:28:56 AM
haha
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2008, 12:29:08 AM
Chris Martin? From Coldplay?

?
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 06, 2008, 12:30:32 AM
Atleast no one listed Thom Yorke or that whiny taco from Muse
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 06, 2008, 12:31:43 AM
Steven Tyler? From Aerosmith?

?

He was kidding, dude.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: cool breeze on November 06, 2008, 12:33:44 AM
Yello
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 06, 2008, 12:35:26 AM
Malek ended this thread already.

He sure did!
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2008, 12:36:42 AM
David Bowie :bow

Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 06, 2008, 12:40:57 AM
Ain't it just like the night to play tricks when you're tryin' to be so quiet?
We sit here stranded, though we're all doin' our best to deny it
And Louise holds a handful of rain, temptin' you to defy it
Lights flicker from the opposite loft
In this room the heat pipes just cough
The country music station plays soft
But there's nothing, really nothing to turn off
Just Louise and her lover so entwined
And these visions of Johanna that conquer my mind

In the empty lot where the ladies play blindman's bluff with the key chain
And the all-night girls they whisper of escapades out on the "D" train
We can hear the night watchman click his flashlight
Ask himself if it's him or them that's really insane
Louise, she's all right, she's just near
She's delicate and seems like the mirror
But she just makes it all too concise and too clear
That Johanna's not here
The ghost of 'lectricity howls in the bones of her face
Where these visions of Johanna have now taken my place

Now, little boy lost, he takes himself so seriously
He brags of his misery, he likes to live dangerously
And when bringing her name up
He speaks of a farewell kiss to me
He's sure got a lotta gall to be so useless and all
Muttering small talk at the wall while I'm in the hall
How can I explain?
Oh, it's so hard to get on
And these visions of Johanna, they kept me up past the dawn

Inside the museums, Infinity goes up on trial
Voices echo this is what salvation must be like after a while
But Mona Lisa musta had the highway blues
You can tell by the way she smiles
See the primitive wallflower freeze
When the jelly-faced women all sneeze
Hear the one with the mustache say, "Jeeze
I can't find my knees"
Oh, jewels and binoculars hang from the head of the mule
But these visions of Johanna, they make it all seem so cruel

Amelia, when asked "Was it awesome, your stay in Australia?"
Said, "Sort of, but short, this land must be God's favourite failure
I left after finding out that even here, even here there is daily a
Dawn, I could just as well choose
Vancouver or the Ivory Coast"
I said "Yes, but in places like those
There are no kangaroos."
A Maya with gloves, once said "Love is like cacao beans"
Well, these visions of Johanna are the darkest pralines.

The peddler now speaks to the countess who's pretending to care for him
Sayin', "Name me someone that's not a parasite and I'll go out and say a prayer for him"
But like Louise always says
"Ya can't look at much, can ya man?"
As she, herself, prepares for him
And Madonna, she still has not showed
We see this empty cage now corrode
Where her cape of the stage once had flowed
The fiddler, he now steps to the road
He writes ev'rything's been returned which was owed
On the back of the fish truck that loads
While my conscience explodes
The harmonicas play the skeleton keys and the rain
And these visions of Johanna are now all that remain


:bow
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 06, 2008, 12:46:01 AM
EXHIBIT A
"Across the Universe"
"A Day in the Life"
"A Hard Day's Night"
"Ballad of John and Yoko"
"Because"
"Come Together"
"Dear Prudence"
"Don't Let Me Down"
"Girl"
"Glass Onion"
"Happiness Is a Warm Gun"
"Help!"
"Hey Bulldog"       
"I Am the Walrus"
"I Feel Fine"
"I Should Have Known Better"    
"I Want You (She's So Heavy)"
"I'm a Loser"
"I'm Only Sleeping"
"I'm So Tired"
"It Won't Be Long"    
"It's Only Love"    
"Julia"
"Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"
"Norwegian Wood"
"Nowhere Man"
"Please Please Me"
"Rain"
"Revolution"
"Sexy Sadie"    
"She Said She Said"    
"Strawberry Fields Forever"
"Sun King"
"Tomorrow Never Knows"
"Yer Blues"
"Yes It Is"
"You've Got to Hide Your Love Away"

EXHIBIT B
"#9 Dream"
"Borrowed Time"
"God"
"Grow Old with Me"
"How Do You Sleep?"
"Imagine"
"I'm Losing You"
"Intuition"
"Isolation"
"Jealous Guy"
"(Just Like) Starting Over"
"Love"
"Mind Games"
"Mother"
"Nobody Loves You (When You're Down and Out)"
"Out the Blue"
"Sunday Bloody Sunday"
"Watching the Wheels"
"Woman Is the distinguished black fellow Of the World"
"Whatever Gets You Thru The Night"
"Woman"
"Working Class Hero"
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Costanza on November 06, 2008, 12:50:58 AM
Rivers Cuomo
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2008, 12:51:40 AM
real talk: can anyone tell me what Life on Mars is about
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TVC15 on November 06, 2008, 12:52:01 AM
I think I'd have to go with Neil Young.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Greatness Gone on November 06, 2008, 12:53:46 AM
Rivers Cuomo
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dude, I'd pick BrandNew's pick over him, and I hate BrandNew's opinions on everything. Weezer kinda sucks btw. One hit wonders with Pinkerton.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 06, 2008, 12:55:11 AM
Might as well pick Billy Corgan!
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 06, 2008, 12:57:40 AM
haha Rivers

Way to scrape the bottom of the barrel
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 06, 2008, 12:59:29 AM
more like rivers homo
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2008, 01:02:23 AM
Roger Waters Exhibit A:

Quote
Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an off hand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way

Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun

And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but its sinking
And racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in the relative way, but youre older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death

Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the english way
The time is gone, the song is over, thought Id something more to say

Home, home again
I like to be herejavascript:void(0);
YouTube when I can
And when I come home cold and tired
Its good to warm my bones beside the fire
Far away across the field
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
To hear the softly spoken magic spells.

That's some of the realest shit ever put down on paper.

(http://tinyurl.com/5bd64s)
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 06, 2008, 01:02:47 AM
robert fripp
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TVC15 on November 06, 2008, 01:03:06 AM
Also, I'm kinda surprised by the Bowie mentions.  He's one of my favorite pop musicians, but I don't think he stands up all that well as a songwriter.  Often even in his best songs, you're faced with ??? lyrics.  Bowie, much like Madonna, at his height seemed to be adept at knowing what trends to follow and what collaborators to work with.  Good musician, yes; good songwriter, he has some major weak points.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2008, 01:05:36 AM
True but we can agree this is better than anything the Beatles ever wrote/envisioned

[youtube=425,350]lkd1uGonwG0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Greatness Gone on November 06, 2008, 01:06:53 AM
Why is Bowie so unbelievably ugly?
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 06, 2008, 01:07:50 AM
Why is Bowie so unbelievably ugly?
because he's not of this world.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: laesperanzapaz on November 06, 2008, 03:45:23 AM
macca or lennon

cmon guys why do we have this thread

it's macca or lennon
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 06, 2008, 06:54:49 AM
Song for song, David Bowie tops Lennon.

RoboJ for Icon
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: John Dunbar on November 06, 2008, 09:31:16 AM
McCartney and Lennon. The two best songwriters ever ended up in the same band, fuck yeah.

Morrissey gets an honorable mention.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Brehvolution on November 06, 2008, 10:17:05 AM
McCartney and Lenon.

Also, up until the latest album, James Hetfield.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Eric P on November 06, 2008, 10:27:41 AM
nick drake is quite good.  not the BEST EVAR but quite good.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 06, 2008, 10:47:55 AM
nick drake is quite good.  not the BEST EVAR but quite good.

:bow

Pink Moon
[youtube=425,350]hE0ODrmaiFE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: patrickula on November 06, 2008, 11:05:03 AM
[youtube=425,350]c7M1Se-p7uk[/youtube]
:bow Neil Young :bow2
:bow first result on youtube :bow2

And if we're talking about lyrics, Will Sheff of Okkervil River is one of the best working now.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 06, 2008, 12:39:49 PM
Pete Townshed.

Malek stfu, you know nothing about the Beatles.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 06, 2008, 12:44:46 PM
i like how songwriting now means 'writing lyrics' apparently
Not to me.

I'm assuming that songwriting includes musical composition. If that's the case, it's not Dylan, it's Lennon.
If it were based solely on lyrics, I'd pick Dylan.

And I vote nay on McCartney along with Lennon. We can disentangle the two because we know that most Lennon/McCartney songs were not true collaborations. While I'm not a McCartney hater, his compositions were not quite as good as Lennon's and definitely not as creative--where was his Tomorrow Never Knows (he did help with the tape loops) or I am the Walrus? And, although I appreciate McCartney's post Beatles career, his song lyrics were shallow and his compositions were often stale.

Pete Townshed.

Malek stfu, you know nothing about the Beatles.
Is this because I didn't add "Lady Madonna" to my Rock Band set list? The Beatles, though they had a short recording career, have a fairly large catalog, so I was bound to miss a song or two.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 06, 2008, 12:50:01 PM
Yeah, if there's one thing I can fault Dylan on, it's his lack of composition variety.  A lot of his bootlegs sound pretty similar to his released tracks.  Blonde on Blonde is his greatest achievement in both areas, lyrics and composition, but most of his albums are pretty standard music wise (I hate saying it).  But to me, lyrics are the most striking attribute to popular music, so it takes the most importance.  In that light, I don't think Dylan can be beat.

With both considered, I'd have to hand it to Lennon or Springsteen.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Powerslave on November 06, 2008, 12:50:48 PM
Steve Harris
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Powerslave on November 06, 2008, 12:53:14 PM
(http://xs433.xs.to/xs433/08454/steve_harris_hq898.jpg)

motherfuckers
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: trippingmartian on November 06, 2008, 12:54:38 PM
Springsteen is up there. Certainly one of the best living songwriters.
[youtube=425,350]1DEtA5fhk4k[/youtube]
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 06, 2008, 12:55:37 PM
Born to Run <3
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 06, 2008, 01:01:42 PM
Yesterday was pretty great, but the rest... :yuck
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 06, 2008, 01:06:58 PM

Didn't he do Yesterday, Let It Be, Hey Jude and The Long and Winding Road? Those are some of the best songs ever.

While he was a very good composer and had great pop sensibilities, he was not as creative or original as Lennon. None of the songs you listed were ahead of their time in anyway (edit: well, Hey Jude was ahead of it's time for length; radio-played singles tended to be much shorter). If Harrison were allowed to contribute more during the Beatles days, I bet he'd be looked at as a better songwriter now. All his Beatles compositions, with a couple exceptions, were awesome.

Yesterday was pretty great, but the rest... :yuck

"Let it Be" is great. "Hey Jude" is overplayed, and a person can only listen to a very long highly repetitive song so many times. "The Long and Winding Road" is pretty good, but screams of false sentimentalism
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 06, 2008, 01:08:36 PM
Don't Let Me Down is what makes Lennon shine in my eyes. Such an amazingly written song.

But, I do think Dylan is a bit better than Lennon, and Townshed and Hank Williams are a step below Lennon.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 06, 2008, 01:10:36 PM
Dylan sucks, real talk

My vote goes to David B.

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Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 06, 2008, 01:11:38 PM
Might as well say Freddy Mercury
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Brehvolution on November 06, 2008, 01:15:56 PM
Quote
WTF? You would have kept Hetfield on this list even after St. Anger, but you take him off because of Death Magnetic? I don't even know what to call that. Not cognitive dissonance. Critical dissonance maybe?

 :lol I liked a couple songs from ST. Anger though. Death Magnetic songs just sound like a mish mash of riffs that couldn't make any of the previous albums. There are parts in songs when listening to Death Magnetic that make me physically wince. :yuck
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TVC15 on November 06, 2008, 01:18:04 PM
i like how songwriting now means 'writing lyrics' apparently

If you're talking to me in regards to Bowie, there's more to it than that about him not being a great songwriter.  Bowie only made great music when he was working with great collaborators.  That goes for the actual song part of songwriting.  His lyrics, however, were never very good.  And I'd also argue that if you can't write compelling lyrics, you probably aren't a great songwriter.  Writing lyrics isn't everything, but it's a significant part of the job.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 06, 2008, 01:21:06 PM
Byrne's got the music
Byrne's got the lyrics
Byrne's got it
Baby Byrne's got it
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 06, 2008, 01:22:46 PM
Dylan sucks, real talk

My vote goes to David B.

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real talk is shit talk, get outta here
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 06, 2008, 01:23:57 PM
name one song Dylan's ever written that doesn't sound like a hippie whining about the quality of his weed for 13 minutes
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 06, 2008, 01:25:38 PM
It's not worth arguing with you because you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and you'll convince yourself you're right, so whatever.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Powerslave on November 06, 2008, 01:27:12 PM
Dylan really does suck.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 06, 2008, 01:28:13 PM
Alright.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 06, 2008, 01:28:23 PM
No he doesn't.

Tangled Up In Blue is an American literacy masterpiece up there with The Great Gatsby and Animal Farm.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 06, 2008, 01:28:38 PM
Yeah Dylan blows. Even Phil Ochs is better.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 06, 2008, 01:30:20 PM
I'd really like to know why you people think this shit

seriously, it blows my mind.  People are saying fucking Hetfield is a good songwriter, but not Dylan?  Fuck off with that logic.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Powerslave on November 06, 2008, 01:30:47 PM
Alright.

I knew you'd come to senses.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Mupepe on November 06, 2008, 03:57:59 PM
Maynard James Keenan
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Eric P on November 06, 2008, 04:02:31 PM
Gershwin

Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: BobbyRobby on November 06, 2008, 04:07:10 PM
Pete Townshend
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Post by: OptimoPeach on November 06, 2008, 04:11:50 PM
MTV Europe Music Awards just announced Tokio Hotel as the best act of 2008, so I nominate them.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on November 06, 2008, 04:27:18 PM
Muse and Radiohead are terrible enough now they give us Tokio Hotel
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TVC15 on November 06, 2008, 04:50:24 PM
Dylan can't write a catchy tune.  Maybe he's got the words, but he sucks at the music part of songwriting.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2008, 04:52:29 PM
Plus all he does is strum a guitar. yawwwn

Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: TVC15 on November 06, 2008, 05:07:27 PM
also, i'd like to introduce a shocking new entry into the list of great songwriters: patrick wolf. yes, yes, he's young and he's only really made two albums (let's just forget about the third one, ok?). but he's a brilliant songwriter in every regard and in every sense of the word. amazingly written, produced and arranged songs with great lyrics.

I kinda like the third album.  I was a hater at first, but I came around.  I still don't think it holds a candle to the first two, though.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 06, 2008, 10:06:19 PM
Also, I'm kinda surprised by the Bowie mentions.  He's one of my favorite pop musicians, but I don't think he stands up all that well as a songwriter.  Often even in his best songs, you're faced with ??? lyrics.  Bowie, much like Madonna, at his height seemed to be adept at knowing what trends to follow and what collaborators to work with.  Good musician, yes; good songwriter, he has some major weak points.

His songs do include such lyrics as "the church of manlove is such a holy place to be", so Evilbore liking him isn't too hard to believe.
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2008, 10:08:40 PM
What an awesome album. I was going through his discography awhile ago, starting with Honky Dory, but I haven't got past Ziggy because I can't stop listening to it 
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: castle007 on November 06, 2008, 10:19:52 PM
50 Cent
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 06, 2008, 10:38:53 PM
50 Cent

Camron>50

I keep bitches straight up like Simon Says
Open vagina put ya legs behind ya head


Dylan owned
Title: Re: Best Songwriter Ever?
Post by: xnikki118x on November 07, 2008, 05:02:06 PM
Richard Marx is an excellent writer of sappy love songs. I'm a huge fan of those. :)