Author Topic: Best Songwriter Ever? (Read 6701 times)

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #60 on:** November 06, 2008, 12:55:37 PM »

Born to Run <3

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #61 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:01:42 PM »

Yesterday was pretty great, but the rest...

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #62 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:06:58 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on November 06, 2008, 12:56:43 PM

Didn't he do Yesterday, Let It Be, Hey Jude and The Long and Winding Road? Those are some of the best songs ever.

While he was a very good composer and had great pop sensibilities, he was not as creative or original as Lennon. None of the songs you listed were ahead of their time in anyway (edit: well, Hey Jude was ahead of it's time for length; radio-played singles tended to be much shorter). If Harrison were allowed to contribute more during the Beatles days, I bet he'd be looked at as a better songwriter now. All his Beatles compositions, with a couple exceptions, were awesome.

Quote from: BrandNew on November 06, 2008, 01:01:42 PM

Yesterday was pretty great, but the rest...

"Let it Be" is great. "Hey Jude" is overplayed, and a person can only listen to a very long highly repetitive song so many times. "The Long and Winding Road" is pretty good, but screams of false sentimentalism

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #63 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:08:36 PM »

Don't Let Me Down is what makes Lennon shine in my eyes. Such an amazingly written song.

But, I do think Dylan is a bit better than Lennon, and Townshed and Hank Williams are a step below Lennon.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #64 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:10:36 PM »

Dylan sucks, real talk

My vote goes to David B.

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MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #65 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:11:38 PM »

Might as well say Freddy Mercury

Brehvolution · « **Reply #66 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:15:56 PM »

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WTF? You would have kept Hetfield on this list even after St. Anger, but you take him off because of Death Magnetic? I don't even know what to call that. Not cognitive dissonance. Critical dissonance maybe?

I liked a couple songs from ST. Anger though. Death Magnetic songs just sound like a mish mash of riffs that couldn't make any of the previous albums. There are parts in songs when listening to Death Magnetic that make me physically wince.

TVC15 · « **Reply #67 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:18:04 PM »

Quote from: jarosh on November 06, 2008, 07:22:15 AM

i like how songwriting now means 'writing lyrics' apparently

If you're talking to me in regards to Bowie, there's more to it than that about him not being a great songwriter. Bowie only made great music when he was working with great collaborators. That goes for the actual song part of songwriting. His lyrics, however, were never very good. And I'd also argue that if you can't write compelling lyrics, you probably aren't a great songwriter. Writing lyrics isn't everything, but it's a significant part of the job.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #68 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:21:06 PM »

Byrne's got the music
Byrne's got the lyrics
Byrne's got it
Baby Byrne's got it

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #69 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:22:46 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on November 06, 2008, 01:10:36 PM

Dylan sucks, real talk

My vote goes to David B.

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Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #70 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:23:57 PM »

name one song Dylan's ever written that doesn't sound like a hippie whining about the quality of his weed for 13 minutes

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #71 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:25:38 PM »

It's not worth arguing with you because you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and you'll convince yourself you're right, so whatever.

Powerslave · « **Reply #72 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:27:12 PM »

Dylan really does suck.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #73 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:28:13 PM »

Alright.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #74 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:28:23 PM »

No he doesn't.

Tangled Up In Blue is an American literacy masterpiece up there with The Great Gatsby and Animal Farm.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #75 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:28:38 PM »

Yeah Dylan blows. Even Phil Ochs is better.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #76 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:30:20 PM »

I'd really like to know why you people think this shit

seriously, it blows my mind. People are saying fucking Hetfield is a good songwriter, but not Dylan? Fuck off with that logic.

Powerslave · « **Reply #77 on:** November 06, 2008, 01:30:47 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on November 06, 2008, 01:28:13 PM

Alright.

I knew you'd come to senses.

Mupepe · « **Reply #78 on:** November 06, 2008, 03:57:59 PM »

Maynard James Keenan

Eric P · « **Reply #79 on:** November 06, 2008, 04:02:31 PM »

Gershwin

BobbyRobby · « **Reply #80 on:** November 06, 2008, 04:07:10 PM »

Pete Townshend

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #81 on:** November 06, 2008, 04:11:50 PM »

MTV Europe Music Awards just announced Tokio Hotel as the best act of 2008, so I nominate them.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #82 on:** November 06, 2008, 04:27:18 PM »

Muse and Radiohead are terrible enough now they give us Tokio Hotel

TVC15 · « **Reply #83 on:** November 06, 2008, 04:50:24 PM »

Dylan can't write a catchy tune. Maybe he's got the words, but he sucks at the music part of songwriting.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #84 on:** November 06, 2008, 04:52:29 PM »

Plus all he does is strum a guitar. yawwwn

TVC15 · « **Reply #85 on:** November 06, 2008, 05:07:27 PM »

Quote from: jarosh on November 06, 2008, 05:00:49 PM

also, i'd like to introduce a shocking new entry into the list of great songwriters: patrick wolf. yes, yes, he's young and he's only really made two albums (let's just forget about the third one, ok?). but he's a brilliant songwriter in every regard and in every sense of the word. amazingly written, produced and arranged songs with great lyrics.

I kinda like the third album. I was a hater at first, but I came around. I still don't think it holds a candle to the first two, though.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #86 on:** November 06, 2008, 10:06:19 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 06, 2008, 01:03:06 AM

Also, I'm kinda surprised by the Bowie mentions. He's one of my favorite pop musicians, but I don't think he stands up all that well as a songwriter. Often even in his best songs, you're faced with lyrics. Bowie, much like Madonna, at his height seemed to be adept at knowing what trends to follow and what collaborators to work with. Good musician, yes; good songwriter, he has some major weak points.

His songs do include such lyrics as "the church of manlove is such a holy place to be", so Evilbore liking him isn't too hard to believe.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #87 on:** November 06, 2008, 10:08:40 PM »

What an awesome album. I was going through his discography awhile ago, starting with Honky Dory, but I haven't got past Ziggy because I can't stop listening to it

castle007 · « **Reply #88 on:** November 06, 2008, 10:19:52 PM »

50 Cent

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #89 on:** November 06, 2008, 10:38:53 PM »

Quote from: castle007 on November 06, 2008, 10:19:52 PM

50 Cent

Camron>50

I keep bitches straight up like Simon Says
Open vagina put ya legs behind ya head

Dylan owned

xnikki118x · « **Reply #90 on:** November 07, 2008, 05:02:06 PM »

Richard Marx is an excellent writer of sappy love songs. I'm a huge fan of those.

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