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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: T234 on November 17, 2008, 12:38:07 PM

Title: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: T234 on November 17, 2008, 12:38:07 PM
From the vids, I just don't know.

The last one made me almost take a shit on my Dreamcast. And I never played that wii shit. I don't waggle.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 17, 2008, 12:42:52 PM
I saw some commercials for it yesterday, why did they feel the need to include that werewolf stuff?
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Post by: MrAngryFace on November 17, 2008, 12:43:35 PM
buying this instead of valk chronicles is sad business
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Post by: T234 on November 17, 2008, 12:51:34 PM
I don't own a triple :(

100$ every two weeks when driving 90 miles a day does not make for an opulent lifestyle.

Anyone hiring someone who can learn just about anything in 15 minutes should direct all replies to my PM box.
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Post by: Himu on November 17, 2008, 12:52:13 PM
ugh.
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Post by: dark1x on November 17, 2008, 12:54:51 PM
It's difficult to say how good the game will be, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that it will be light years beyond Sonic 06. 
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Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on November 17, 2008, 01:47:36 PM
wasn't the wii version (lol) supposed to be the lead SKU or something?
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Post by: cool breeze on November 17, 2008, 01:48:04 PM
People are excited that Nintendo Power gave the Wii version the same score as Shadow the Hedgehog, so that's something.

I'm waiting for the demo
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Post by: dark1x on November 17, 2008, 01:48:57 PM
wasn't the wii version (lol) supposed to be the lead SKU or something?
No, it wasn't.  The Wii/PS2 versions were basically farmed out to Dimps.  Of course, Dimps has actually released better Sonic games as of late than Sonic Team proper.  Still, I don't believe the team responsible for Sonic 06 is behind this new game.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 17, 2008, 02:41:53 PM
Werewolf Sonic  :lol
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Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2008, 03:20:21 PM
If I had to bet when the next decent Sonic game would come out, i'd go with never.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 17, 2008, 03:25:15 PM
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/deoxysprime/Sonic/TheCycle.jpg)
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Post by: Oblivion on November 17, 2008, 03:27:50 PM
It's difficult to say how good the game will be, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that it will be light years beyond Sonic 06. 

That's not much of an accomplishment, even for Sonic Team.
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Post by: Himu on November 17, 2008, 03:57:20 PM
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/deoxysprime/Sonic/TheCycle.jpg)

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/125/1219784882919by0.png)
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Post by: Bloodwake on November 17, 2008, 04:00:58 PM
Nintendo Power gave it an 8/10, lol.
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Post by: cool breeze on November 17, 2008, 04:10:27 PM
the most bizarre part about Unleashed is that people are already doing preemptive damage control by starting hype for Sonic and the Black Knight.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 17, 2008, 04:24:26 PM
werewolf bar mitzvah
stupid, sucky
hogs becoming wolves
fans becoming sad
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Post by: demi on November 17, 2008, 04:45:01 PM
It will definitely be better than valkyria chronicles
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Post by: drew on November 17, 2008, 04:46:22 PM
a jrpg?

what isn't
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 17, 2008, 06:09:43 PM
Nintendo Power gave it an 8/10, lol.

I'll wait to see what Play gives it.
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Post by: treythemovie on November 17, 2008, 07:25:22 PM
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/125/1219784882919by0.png (http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/125/1219784882919by0.png)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/idc18j.png)
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 17, 2008, 08:15:12 PM
The Wii version is missing two levels (Mazuri and Empire City) from the HD versions.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:rofl
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Post by: tiesto on November 17, 2008, 08:17:34 PM
I have no hope for this whatsoever. Sonic Rush was OK (never played the sequel), but for now I'm content with just replaying 1, 2, 3, +Knuckles, and CD.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 17, 2008, 09:35:36 PM
New Shots:

(http://www.eversonic.fr/V6/images/news/1226965024.jpg)


(http://www.eversonic.fr/V6/images/news/1226967574.jpg)


(http://www.eversonic.fr/V6/images/news/1226967571.jpg)


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Post by: drew on November 17, 2008, 09:43:08 PM
fail
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 17, 2008, 10:01:52 PM
Nice to see they're still getting mileage out of that Sonic Adventure 1 engine.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2008, 10:17:16 PM
(http://www.eversonic.fr/V6/images/news/1226965024.jpg)

Look at those ground textures...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
must be the ps3 version :(
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 17, 2008, 10:57:11 PM
This game is gonna be awesome. Sonic 4 lyfe (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2198/2166312973_1d32c4396f_o.gif)
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 17, 2008, 11:08:58 PM
The Sonic Rule: All new Sonic games are considered shit until proven otherwise.
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: laesperanzapaz on November 17, 2008, 11:13:19 PM
This game is gonna be awesome. Sonic 4 lyfe (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2198/2166312973_1d32c4396f_o.gif)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/3021612747_a7dc2eeae6_o.jpg)
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Post by: tiesto on November 17, 2008, 11:14:52 PM
Sonic needs to take a page from MM9 and revert to the oldskool... then actually hire decent level designers that DON'T LOAD THEIR LEVELS WITH BOTTOMLESS PITS
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Post by: cool breeze on November 18, 2008, 12:10:50 AM
Apparently this game is 3 parts Werehog to every 1 part fast running stage

sega
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Post by: drew on November 18, 2008, 12:16:58 AM
this game does not exist

this game does not exist

this game does not exist
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 18, 2008, 12:44:04 AM
Apparently this game is 3 parts Werehog to every 1 part fast running stage

sega

That's the Wii version. The PS360 versions are 60/40 or 50/50 (Sonic to Werehog) according to GAF.
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Post by: cool breeze on November 18, 2008, 06:26:25 AM
Apparently this game is 3 parts Werehog to every 1 part fast running stage

sega

That's the Wii version. The PS360 versions are 60/40 or 50/50 (Sonic to Werehog) according to GAF.

good to know

still, lol at people going "wii version is superior because dimps is classic sonic!"

 
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Post by: dark1x on November 18, 2008, 08:07:51 AM

Look at those ground textures...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
must be the ps3 version :(
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That's a bit harsh.  The game looks pretty good in stills considering how fast you'll be passing these textures.  Honestly, designing the stages for this game seems like it would have been a pretty hefty job as a result of the insane speed they went with combined with the fact that they wanted to maintain visual quality even in stills.
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Post by: Himu on November 18, 2008, 11:35:31 AM
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/125/1219784882919by0.png (http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/125/1219784882919by0.png)

http://i38.tinypic.com/idc18j.png

:rofl
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Post by: hyp on November 18, 2008, 02:37:11 PM
i'm gonna gamefly this bitch. 
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 18, 2008, 06:36:11 PM
If it turns out to be good, I'll probably just get it when it hits the bargain bins.  Someone who might give a glowing review might do that because its the first Sonic that isn't total dog shit and therefore, will overrate it.


Look at those ground textures...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
must be the ps3 version :(
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That's a bit harsh.  The game looks pretty good in stills considering how fast you'll be passing these textures.  Honestly, designing the stages for this game seems like it would have been a pretty hefty job as a result of the insane speed they went with combined with the fact that they wanted to maintain visual quality even in stills.

Agreed.
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Post by: Jansen on November 20, 2008, 08:37:25 PM
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3171439

:bow sega :bow2
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Post by: demi on November 20, 2008, 08:40:12 PM
I'm getting it, will be awesome
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Post by: drohne on November 21, 2008, 12:52:51 AM
ordered this on amazon :-[

it was effectively $35 :-[

couldn't help myself :-[
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Post by: demi on November 21, 2008, 03:52:35 PM
gamefly shipped this  8)
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 23, 2008, 05:07:26 PM
This looks amazing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vsC64XXahM&fmt=18

:-[
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Post by: Vizzys on November 23, 2008, 06:23:33 PM
reviews are suggesting the sonic cycle is complete once more
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Post by: drohne on November 23, 2008, 06:46:55 PM
doesn't the wii version have twice as many werehog stages as sonic stages? and the sonic stages have been cut down too
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Post by: treythemovie on November 23, 2008, 06:52:44 PM
reviews are suggesting the sonic cycle is complete once more
Seems so. Though at least its soley due to the werehog sections this time, instead of an utter disaster like 2006. Sigh, when will Sega ever learn?

It has been humorour watching the posters on gaf trying to claim that the Sonic cycle is "broken" as if proving a joke chart wrong suddenly makes the series not shitty.


The Wii version apparently holds up well and has little slowdown or buggy gameplay, though the 360 version has achievements and costs more(making it a better game). Buying games is hard when you might have two systems.
The Wii version is apparently gimped completely: missing some stages and the werehog sections are 75% of the game. 
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 23, 2008, 07:08:46 PM
doesn't the wii version have twice as many werehog stages as sonic stages? and the sonic stages have been cut down too

That's true. The 360 game is the definite version.

After looking at videos of the Sonic stages, I'm going to have to judge this one myself. I'm picking this up later this week.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 23, 2008, 07:47:42 PM
I expect this to be another title like Sonic Heroes: ambitious but painfully mediocre.

Still a step up from Secret Rings, Sonic 2006, or Shadow, probably.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 23, 2008, 08:03:47 PM
I expect this to be another title like Sonic Heroes: ambitious but painfully mediocre.

I'm expecting something akin to SA2, good Sonic stages with shitty filler levels.

But your take on Sonic Heroes is spot on. :lol
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2008, 08:05:48 PM
ordered this on amazon :-[

it was effectively $35 :-[

couldn't help myself :-[

all my heroes are dead :'(
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 23, 2008, 08:18:32 PM
ordered this on amazon :-[

it was effectively $35 :-[

couldn't help myself :-[

all my heroes are dead :'(

(http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/bydo%20empire/avatar-body.png)

:P
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2008, 08:33:26 PM
:heart
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Post by: Jansen on November 23, 2008, 08:42:38 PM
there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now
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Post by: drohne on November 23, 2008, 09:23:53 PM
xmiis, home, secret sonic shame...this has been a discomfiting week :usacry
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 23, 2008, 09:40:09 PM
there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now

 :punch
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2008, 09:51:53 PM
xmiis, home, secret sonic shame...this has been a discomfiting week :usacry


more shameful than this?

(http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/bydo%20empire/avatar-body.png)

i think not
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Post by: drohne on November 23, 2008, 10:09:05 PM
do you really want to start a picfight with a sonic fan
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 23, 2008, 10:11:08 PM
:lol
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 23, 2008, 10:11:14 PM
Note:  I will be tallking out of my ass here

One thing I don't get is the complaints about there not being enough "2D" sonic levels.  Now, I haven't played a Sonic game in ages, but I remember them being pretty short.  From what I have read, once you've finished you can skip the werewolf stuff and just replay the "2D" levels.  Sounds to me that those levels are cumulatively about the same length of past Sonic games, so you're basically getting a full "old-style" Sonic padded out with some crap.
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Post by: y2kev on November 23, 2008, 10:16:48 PM
well the old sonics werent on autopilot
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 23, 2008, 10:19:28 PM
oh, is this one on-rails?

 :(
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 23, 2008, 10:21:21 PM
Note:  I will be tallking out of my ass here

One thing I don't get is the complaints about there not being enough "2D" sonic levels.  Now, I haven't played a Sonic game in ages, but I remember them being pretty short.  From what I have read, once you've finished you can skip the werewolf stuff and just replay the "2D" levels.  Sounds to me that those levels are cumulatively about the same length of past Sonic games, so you're basically getting a full "old-style" Sonic padded out with some crap.

It's not really old school Sonic. It's more similar to the Sonic Rush games, which basically are the next best thing.

And no, it's not on rails. Kev is just being facetious. :P
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 23, 2008, 10:24:16 PM
i might pick this up at $30, then

i really liked the old sonic games on genesis, and i played a little of that dreamcast one which was ok

i did try the demo of the last one on 360  :yuck
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Post by: demi on November 23, 2008, 10:25:58 PM
This looks amazing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vsC64XXahM&fmt=18

:-[

Haters annihilated... I cant wait
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 23, 2008, 10:31:54 PM
i could probably do without sonic talking
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Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 23, 2008, 10:32:51 PM
^ I dunno how anyone can hate on the game after seeing that video.  That looks fun as hell.  The gfx and sense of speed are amazing.  Environments look great and colorful.  Definite rental
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 23, 2008, 10:39:54 PM
^ I dunno how anyone can hate on the game after seeing that video.  That looks fun as hell.  The gfx and sense of speed are amazing.  Environments look great and colorful.  Definite rental

Have you not played a Sonic game in the last 10 years?? That's how they get you! They throw in a few parts that are totally freaking sweet, and then surround those awesome parts with a moat of bullshit. Can you survive long enough to get to the awesome parts, or does your will to live drown in the moat of distinguished mentally-challenged friends and Final Fantasy cutscenes? That's the metagame you play when you pick up a Sonic game.
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Post by: CHOW CHOW on November 23, 2008, 10:43:45 PM
^ I dunno how anyone can hate on the game after seeing that video.  That looks fun as hell.  The gfx and sense of speed are amazing.  Environments look great and colorful.  Definite rental

Have you not played a Sonic game in the last 10 years?? That's how they get you! They throw in a few parts that are totally freaking sweet, and then surround those awesome parts with a moat of bullshit. Can you survive long enough to get to the awesome parts, or does your will to live drown in the moat of distinguished mentally-challenged friends and Final Fantasy cutscenes? That's the metagame you play when you pick up a Sonic game.
Come on, how bad could it be?
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Post by: drew on November 23, 2008, 10:46:02 PM
This looks amazing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vsC64XXahM&fmt=18

:-[

Haters annihilated... I cant wait

Gamestop preorder bonus:
(http://www.moonpolice.us/pipe.jpg)
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Post by: demi on November 23, 2008, 10:46:23 PM
As someone who has played and completed Sonic 2006, Unleashed is already leagues better. Nobody else here has done that. I am the best Sonic fan around. I even have this giant Sonic cardboard thing. It's pretty sweet. Cause I'm a big Sonic fan.

I also accurately predicted Sonic Rush was a complete disaster, btw.
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Post by: y2kev on November 23, 2008, 10:46:30 PM
Note:  I will be tallking out of my ass here

One thing I don't get is the complaints about there not being enough "2D" sonic levels.  Now, I haven't played a Sonic game in ages, but I remember them being pretty short.  From what I have read, once you've finished you can skip the werewolf stuff and just replay the "2D" levels.  Sounds to me that those levels are cumulatively about the same length of past Sonic games, so you're basically getting a full "old-style" Sonic padded out with some crap.

It's not really old school Sonic. It's more similar to the Sonic Rush games, which basically are the next best thing.

And no, it's not on rails. Kev is just being facetious. :P

I'm only half kidding. Saying Sonic Rush is the next best thing to old school Sonic is like saying, if they were your only options, that a shitcake is the next best thing to filet mignon.

The "speed burst" move is absolutely autopilot, but at least it looks pretty this time.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 23, 2008, 11:03:56 PM
^ I dunno how anyone can hate on the game after seeing that video.  That looks fun as hell.  The gfx and sense of speed are amazing.  Environments look great and colorful.  Definite rental

It looks like nice but also looks like there's hardly any gameplay.  Plus that video has no werehog.  You could take a video of a Nights Wii flying level and it'll look fine, but then the game is the black plague.
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Post by: demi on November 23, 2008, 11:07:57 PM
Bunch of hatas. Can hear you from here. But all I hear is the flock of crows heading your way.

Caw...
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Post by: tiesto on November 23, 2008, 11:15:28 PM
How the fuck hard is it to make a 2D HD game, or 2.5D game, add actual platforming and no auto-pilot, auto-target enemies in succession, and keep the bottomless pits to a bare minimum? And of course, keep it Sonic, Tales and Knuckles, no gimmicky gameplay shit, no hubworlds.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 23, 2008, 11:43:07 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://www.tillerman.net/uploaded_images/sonic-785270.jpg)
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:drool
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Post by: demi on November 23, 2008, 11:47:01 PM
Sonic is lookin beefy
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Post by: cool breeze on November 23, 2008, 11:53:23 PM
That video looked good, Sonic Adventure 2 Sonic stage good.  It also didn't look totally automatic like the Wii verison.

I'll rent if there isn't a demo soon.
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Post by: Enl on November 24, 2008, 01:53:34 AM
That video looked pretty decent but I've be hearing that the WereSonic brawler portions take up about 60% of the game.
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Post by: littlemathletics on November 24, 2008, 01:59:53 AM
That video just put me off completely. You know, in all seriousness, that it's never going to be that smooth to play. It's going to be just like Sonic Heroes, where you want to go through levels like that, but you inevitably hit something you didn't see, or fall off a jump, or bullshit like that.

I'm failing to see the improvements over the last couple of shitfests.
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Post by: MrAngryFace on November 24, 2008, 02:13:33 AM
That video just put me off completely. You know, in all seriousness, that it's never going to be that smooth to play. It's going to be just like Sonic Heroes, where you want to go through levels like that, but you inevitably hit something you didn't see, or fall off a jump, or bullshit like that.

I'm failing to see the improvements over the last couple of shitfests.

This.
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Post by: cool breeze on November 24, 2008, 02:17:57 AM
That video just put me off completely. You know, in all seriousness, that it's never going to be that smooth to play. It's going to be just like Sonic Heroes, where you want to go through levels like that, but you inevitably hit something you didn't see, or fall off a jump, or bullshit like that.

I'm failing to see the improvements over the last couple of shitfests.

Improvement #1: No dealing with bad camera
Improvement #2: WiP
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Post by: littlemathletics on November 24, 2008, 02:32:57 AM
Work in progress? Seriously? I'm all for taking polishing time into account, but this game isn't far enough away for any real improvement.

I will agree the camera looks better, but that's not enough for me to want to go through another shitty Sonic experience.
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Post by: demi on November 24, 2008, 02:34:27 AM
Hey I'm glad you played it though

Caw... caw...
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Post by: cool breeze on November 24, 2008, 02:53:47 AM
I liked Adventure 1 and 2 also, but if you think back they were only a fraction of a good game.  To give Sega some credit, the ratio of good to shit has gotten better.  Adventure had one fifth, Adventure 2 had one third, then it kind of faded to black for a while and now Unleashed is supposedly half a good game.
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Post by: littlemathletics on November 24, 2008, 03:07:31 AM
Hey I'm glad you played it though

Caw... caw...

 :lol Your boundless optimism for Sonic is awesome.
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Post by: littlemathletics on November 24, 2008, 03:10:56 AM
The Knuckles/Rogue sections can suck a fat cock though.

I think there's pictures of that on Deviant Art.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 24, 2008, 03:28:30 AM
Sonic Adventure wasn't too bad.  The Big section kind of sucked but once you got the hang of the crap controls, that part of the game was a little fun.

Sonic Adventure 2 just made the good parts better but the bad parts worse.
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Post by: cool breeze on November 24, 2008, 03:31:15 AM
I will say that Sonic games almost consistently have amazing music and Unleashed doesn't seem to be an exception.
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 24, 2008, 12:11:44 PM
I just got it from Gamefly! So excited  :hyper :hyper ENDLESS POSSIBILITY
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 24, 2008, 02:20:41 PM
Sonic is fast. REALLY FAST, almost a little fast, I like that when you spin Sonic around he makes a blur. The whole time I was playing I never felt like I wasn't in control,the jumps,the slides, everything I did felt as if it was up to me. The werehog stages aren't bad at all, I rather enjoyed them. I kinda suck at the timing though so I died a couple of times. I've done 3 stages so far, 1 Daytime and 2 Nighttime. I also did a Tornado minigame which I also suck at but it's fun. I'm most likely going to send it back tommorow, I actually really want it.

I got one achivement too!  :hyper
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Post by: demi on November 24, 2008, 03:02:47 PM
Haha, another shitty friend. Only this time it has amnesia so we dont know its name!
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Post by: y2kev on November 24, 2008, 03:37:59 PM
Junpei's seal of approval

congrats sega
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Post by: demi on November 24, 2008, 03:41:52 PM
It looks pretty good. Nice and clean. I can only get a B on stages. It's hard to align yourself to get rings when you're blazing through. What does the random beeping you hear occasionally mean? The loading isn't as awful as 2006. I haven't installed it yet.
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Post by: demi on November 24, 2008, 03:55:17 PM
Achievements are more giving than Sonic 06's was. There's only a few achievements related to coin collecting. And you only need 1 S rank in a level, unlike 2006's S-rank every level.
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Post by: y2kev on November 24, 2008, 04:25:45 PM
back in the mail
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Post by: demi on November 24, 2008, 04:26:58 PM
Werehog levels aren't as offensive as they should be. Almost got a 99 combo, got to 85.
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Post by: Bloodwake on November 24, 2008, 04:54:20 PM
lol sonic.

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Post by: demi on November 24, 2008, 04:56:29 PM
Game is way better than 06. Probably the best Sonic game since... uh - Adventure I guess? Well the best 3D sonic. I will beat.
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 24, 2008, 05:37:49 PM
I got a E on the ice stage  :(  This game is so good!
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 24, 2008, 05:58:42 PM
Also I have the Japanese voices on. Chip's voice is soooooooooooooo kawaiii  :heartbeat :heartbeat
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 24, 2008, 06:15:59 PM
Junpei is serial.
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Post by: demi on November 24, 2008, 06:18:07 PM
Got my S-rank on the second werehog level. Apparently it keeps your score from the last time you died, because I still got a score of over 300000 even though I died at the very last check point.
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Post by: drew on November 24, 2008, 06:25:18 PM
a letter grading system?

no wonder you like this
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Post by: demi on November 24, 2008, 06:27:24 PM
I think someone is a little mad that DMC4 is the best game ever
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Post by: The Sceneman on November 24, 2008, 06:40:53 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://www.tillerman.net/uploaded_images/sonic-785270.jpg)
[close]

:drool

im pissing myself here
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Post by: demi on November 24, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
Not a sign of a shitty friend yet
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 24, 2008, 09:39:22 PM
there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now

Yes.

Also that youtube up above your post looks like shit. They've managed to make the Dreamcast-era gameplay even MORE linear and brainless. Something akin to Sonic Adventure 1 I would be willing to buy, but I raelly don't want to just run 90mph automatically and press A now and then. Even time trials would be a waste of time with how much of that is completely scripted. Also, it's 5 and a half minutes long, fuck off with that.
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 24, 2008, 09:46:18 PM
I recently finished Rooftop Hill. I got a D, I suck. This game is awesome.

there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now

Yes.

Also that youtube up above your post looks like shit. They've managed to make the Dreamcast-era gameplay even MORE linear and brainless. Something akin to Sonic Adventure 1 I would be willing to buy, but I raelly don't want to just run 90mph automatically and press A now and then. Even time trials would be a waste of time with how much of that is completely scripted. Also, it's 5 and a half minutes long, fuck off with that.

The majority of the stage isn't scripted, it just looks that way. You're in control.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 24, 2008, 09:48:11 PM
I recently finished Rooftop Hill. I got a D, I suck. This game is awesome.

there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now

Yes.

Also that youtube up above your post looks like shit. They've managed to make the Dreamcast-era gameplay even MORE linear and brainless. Something akin to Sonic Adventure 1 I would be willing to buy, but I raelly don't want to just run 90mph automatically and press A now and then. Even time trials would be a waste of time with how much of that is completely scripted. Also, it's 5 and a half minutes long, fuck off with that.

The majority of the stage isn't scripted, it just looks that way. You're in control.

By control you mean holding forward.
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Post by: y2kev on November 24, 2008, 09:50:43 PM
Demi, chip is a shitty friend and you get him in the first cutscene. And tails shows up in level 2.

Two nighttime stages in a row forced me to put this back in the mailbox. shite binne.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 24, 2008, 09:57:38 PM
Ew

Is there gonna be a demo?

BTW MAF I downloaded the demo for Valkyria Chronicles or whatever the fuck cuz you kept talking about it.
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 24, 2008, 10:08:34 PM
I recently finished Rooftop Hill. I got a D, I suck. This game is awesome.

there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now

Yes.

Also that youtube up above your post looks like shit. They've managed to make the Dreamcast-era gameplay even MORE linear and brainless. Something akin to Sonic Adventure 1 I would be willing to buy, but I raelly don't want to just run 90mph automatically and press A now and then. Even time trials would be a waste of time with how much of that is completely scripted. Also, it's 5 and a half minutes long, fuck off with that.

The majority of the stage isn't scripted, it just looks that way. You're in control.

By control you mean holding forward.

At times yes but I just want people to know that it's not: Hold Forward + Press a couple of buttons= WIN because it's not. But I like DoC so...yeah.

Demi, chip is a shitty friend and you get him in the first cutscene. And tails shows up in level 2.

Two nighttime stages in a row forced me to put this back in the mailbox. shite binne.

Chip is not a shitty friend. He's cute, how could you not like Chip? Tails is cool too. I could understand if you had to play with them and the gameplay was horrible but you don't. Amy Rose shows up too.

IT'S GOOD TO ME GODDAMMIT  :'(
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Post by: y2kev on November 24, 2008, 10:31:01 PM
Ew

Is there gonna be a demo?

BTW MAF I downloaded the demo for Valkyria Chronicles or whatever the fuck cuz you kept talking about it.

im waiting for my copy of THAT to arrive. play the demo, its great.
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Post by: demi on November 25, 2008, 12:58:04 AM
Demi, chip is a shitty friend and you get him in the first cutscene. And tails shows up in level 2.

Two nighttime stages in a row forced me to put this back in the mailbox. shite binne.

Tails isnt considered a shitty friend, he's a classic. And I already brought up Chip in my first post. Don't let your bias cloud your eyesight. This game is awesome. Sonic is back.

I'm having trouble doing the Mazuri level in under 2:30
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 25, 2008, 04:43:25 AM
I just sent the game back, the game is good. You guys are fegs.

So is this as good as the Sonic / Shadow levels in Sonic Adventure 2?

Yes. I would say so.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 27, 2008, 05:08:18 PM
Man, playing this game is such a weird experience. For everything they got right, they seem to have done something wrong to counteract it. Granted, this still is probably the best 3D Sonic game released (not that this means much).

+Sonic levels are ace very well-designed. Loads of branching paths make replays much more interesting.
+Graphics are AWESOME. I honestly was expecting the screenshots I saw online to be bullshots, I was pleasantly surprised. Everything is sharp, clean, and colourful. Everything seems to have a high polygon count. They did something right with the Hedgehog Engine, because it's one of the most nicest looking multiplatform titles this generation (imo). I didn't think Sonic Team had the talent anymore. Here's hoping they use it for the next PSO title.
+Music is fantastic. I want to get this game's OST. It's that good.
+Art direction is realized and inspired you could say. It's very stylized and fits perfectly with the Sonic universe. 

-Werehog levels. It's not so much the mechanics that I have a problem with. They would have been a decent distraction if the levels were half as long and enemies died faster. Playing those levels became a chore for me rather quickly. It's more of a Kung Fu Panda clone than a God of War one.
-While the sense of speed is exhilarating, Sonic sometimes runs too fast making it seem like you have no control over the hedgehog.
-It's a personal preference, I'd rather have the progression a bit more linear that having to enter and converse in hub stages. It works better with Sonic. It's not an RPG ffs!
-Control still feels a tad too twitchy (liked 2K6).
-I actually like Chip despite him being a shitty friend. :(

Overall, this is a C+ game for me from what I have played so far. It would have been better if it was all Sonic obviously.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 27, 2008, 05:14:35 PM
Sounds like a good bargain bin title.  Good jon Sega for not fucking this one up...too much.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 27, 2008, 05:20:55 PM
I don't regret spending $50 at all, but I'd definitely recommend picking it up if you find it for $30 or less.

It's fun.
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Post by: Costanza on November 29, 2008, 09:36:07 AM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0017HPE7E

360 version - $20.95 with coupon code UNLEASH5

I just bought it :\
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 29, 2008, 09:40:05 AM
me too  :gloomy
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Post by: demi on November 29, 2008, 10:12:15 AM
Game rocks, I got a 130 hit combo but I still didnt get the achievement.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 29, 2008, 10:20:57 AM
I bought it as well.  $20.95 seems like a good price for it.
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Post by: demi on November 29, 2008, 10:21:32 AM
Unleashed > Valkyria :bow
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 29, 2008, 10:37:38 AM
Wait where do I enter the coupon code
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Post by: Costanza on November 29, 2008, 10:37:57 AM
Wait where do I enter the coupon code
Last page of checkout.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 29, 2008, 10:39:19 AM
Yea I just saw it lol, I thought I had to do it for the individual product.

Awesome find, thanks. Though this turd is $25 anyway  :lol
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 29, 2008, 11:56:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J8MRu45UaU
 
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Thanks for the link Costanza.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 29, 2008, 12:59:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J8MRu45UaU
 
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Thanks for the link Costanza.

bububbububu you're supposed to hold right all the time
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Post by: Bebpo on November 29, 2008, 01:09:19 PM
So the 2.5d levels are legit and the full on 3d running is a joke and werehog sucks?

I think we know what the next Sonic game needs to be then:  All 2.5d.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 29, 2008, 01:59:42 PM
Werehog gets better as you level up your skills and get more moves. I'm finding myself enjoying those sections a lot more than I previously have.
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Post by: y2kev on November 29, 2008, 02:10:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J8MRu45UaU
 
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Thanks for the link Costanza.

bububbububu you're supposed to hold right all the time

That actually looks really good, but the problem is it's 2 minutes long. The levels look great when you get them down, but there are definitely a number of areas in that video where a glitch could just send the controller flying-- like if the homing attack didn't work for some reason (which it does in every sonic game randomly).

The sonic-running stuff is enjoyable. No question.
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Post by: drohne on November 29, 2008, 03:10:49 PM
twenty bucks! i reordered and returned my old copy, though between promotions and shipping deductions i'm not sure i'm going to save much money :-\
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Post by: cool breeze on November 29, 2008, 03:28:50 PM
the best part about the Amazon deal is that if it really is as bad as people say, you can trade it in to Gamestop and get a $15 profit
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Post by: Bebpo on November 29, 2008, 04:51:31 PM
the best part about the Amazon deal is that if it really is as bad as people say, you can trade it in to Gamestop and get a $15 profit

I hate this logic.

I just bought my first Sonic game since I bought Sonic Heroes for $5 and never opened it >_<
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Post by: Oblivion on November 29, 2008, 04:57:42 PM
Wow, the 2D stage posted above looks fun. If Sega made a whole game with just those, it would be infinitely more tolerable.
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Post by: demi on November 29, 2008, 04:59:43 PM
I'm not sure I'm gonna go for 1000 on this. The "hot dog missions" can be pretty brutal, and I dont really want to coin collect. I'll get what I can, though.
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Post by: cool breeze on November 29, 2008, 05:02:05 PM
the best part about the Amazon deal is that if it really is as bad as people say, you can trade it in to Gamestop and get a $15 profit

I hate this logic.

I just bought my first Sonic game since I bought Sonic Heroes for $5 and never opened it >_<

Nothing wrong with it.  Personally I've never traded a game, but others do, it's how it is.
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 29, 2008, 06:27:26 PM
That video looks bad ass. What percentage of the game is 2.5d like that?
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 29, 2008, 06:35:17 PM
50%.
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Post by: y2kev on November 29, 2008, 06:39:10 PM
2.5D? Less than 50%...the sonic levels are split between 2.5D and Secret Rings style "chase cam", but that level is entirely 2.5D...what level is that?
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 29, 2008, 06:58:48 PM
2.5D? Less than 50%...the sonic levels are split between 2.5D and Secret Rings style "chase cam", but that level is entirely 2.5D...what level is that?
Oh. Pass.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on November 30, 2008, 05:16:47 PM
Just finished Chun-Nan. Game is awesome.

All the second acts of the daytime stages are 2.5D all the way through.
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 30, 2008, 10:39:15 PM
Quote
Amy is so hot in high def. God, I just want to squeeze her cunt.

 :rofl :rofl
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 01, 2008, 12:14:46 AM
Quote
Amy is so hot in high def. God, I just want to squeeze her cunt.

 :rofl :rofl

:teehee
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Post by: demi on December 01, 2008, 02:23:36 AM
So what about this nonsense I hear that the Wii version is the superior version?

:rofl
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Post by: cool breeze on December 01, 2008, 02:32:42 AM
So what about this nonsense I hear that the Wii version is the superior version?

from what I can tell it's because there are less Sonic stages and those stages are more like Sonic Rush in that you just run in a straight line without worrying about, you know, controlling it
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Post by: demi on December 01, 2008, 02:35:41 AM
But it's also on the Wii. Not superior. Fail.
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Post by: cool breeze on December 01, 2008, 02:38:30 AM
true, but that doesn't explain why the Werehog levels actually seem somewhat better on the Wii.  I guess it's a choice between having highs to match the lows or having an entirely low experience that hovers slightly above the lows of the 360 verison.
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Post by: demi on December 01, 2008, 02:44:08 AM
There are no lows for 360 version. It's great. Clearly another case of Sonic 06 where nobody plays it except YOURS truly

* Except 06 was trash and this is way better
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Post by: cool breeze on December 01, 2008, 02:46:03 AM
I'll find out tomorrow or tuesday when the package arrives.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 02, 2008, 11:01:32 PM
Hey, this isn't bad at all.
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Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2008, 12:17:49 AM
this opening cinematic is actually pretty crazy, I wonder how much money Sega wasted on it
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 03, 2008, 12:36:12 AM
Told ya the game's great. Glad you're enjoying it, Viscen. :D

Btw, check this out. :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze582VGaAkY
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Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2008, 01:25:51 AM
this game is pretty shitty

Sonic parts are alright, everything else is terrible.  The airplane levels which I didn't even know about are ghastly.
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 05:41:03 AM
Nope, game is awesome.
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Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2008, 10:42:17 AM
qte fetishist
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 10:44:55 AM
Skill fetishist, u mad
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Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2008, 11:02:01 AM
not really, it was only $20 and if I can ever replay the sonic levels it is kind of worth it

and chip is a shitty friend, it sounds like a terminally ill kid
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 04:16:11 PM
The last boss is really weak compared to Sonic 06's : (

Also LOL @ Kingdom Hearts 2 final attack

spoiler (click to show/hide)
They make you smash X button SIXTY times before time runs out
[close]
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 04:21:52 PM
WTF you gotta watch the credits for the final achievement
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 03, 2008, 04:23:49 PM
this opening cinematic is actually pretty crazy, I wonder how much money Sega wasted on it

Seriously, maybe they should have taken 10% of that money and used it to design the menus.

How do I replay missions? Can I just pick them from a list somewhere instead of running around town?


I didn't find the first Werefuck level to be too bad, same for the flight QTE level.
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 04:24:44 PM
Go to any level then press LB/RB, or you can select it from the world map
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 03, 2008, 05:42:01 PM
Do I need to unlock the world map or something? I'm up to the negro town and when I load my file up it just sticks me right in the hub.
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 05:43:39 PM
yeah you gotta progress to a certain point. if it prevents you from leaving, you arent there yet
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Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2008, 05:43:43 PM
I got the world level after I found the professor
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Post by: ManaByte on December 03, 2008, 05:48:15 PM
IGN gave the game a 4.5.

THEY ONLY COMPLETED THE FIRST LEVEL.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on December 03, 2008, 05:49:34 PM
Probably would have been much lower if they'd played farther.
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Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2008, 05:50:08 PM
it gets better...well, sonic levels get better.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 03, 2008, 05:51:08 PM
OK, I'm in the first werehog stage after I find out the professor is missing. I just cleared a room of enemies, and spun two levers around to make two platforms rise up. I go up there, swing on a pole, then swing on an enemy to get up to a nighttime medal.

Now what the fuck do I do?


I slide off of any of the other upper surfaces, I can't grab the ledge of the green area right above the ledges, putting the crates on the wooden planks does not cause them to fall through. What the fuck is this shit man, I don't even mind the Werehog combat but what are these slow ass 'puzzles.' And the pause screen doesn't seem to tell you the name of the level you're in so if I want to look for help I guess I have to restart.
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 05:55:22 PM
LOL like that helps anyone. Look around.

Sonic 06's final boss is way better (and final music), but overall Unleashed is the best 3D sonic since Adventure (1/2)
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 03, 2008, 05:56:13 PM
Cool so there's more than one awesome dead end like this in this game? Where is the unlock all levels button code.

I'd look around if there was a free look button, that'd be nice too.
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 05:57:13 PM
Cry more you pussy bitch. I had zero problems, as usual.
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 05:57:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDpZ9Qg761I
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 03, 2008, 05:58:13 PM
Shut the fuck up dude.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2008, 05:58:53 PM
can you play this with the d pad
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 05:59:36 PM
can you play this with the d pad

No
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2008, 06:00:54 PM
so it's tailored for analog control, then
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 06:01:31 PM
I know, I was surprised to find a 3D game tailored for analog
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2008, 06:03:28 PM
from the videos posted in this thread it's not all in 3D, smartass

i just want to know if the 2Dish levels control well with the sticks

I am not your enemy
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 06:12:35 PM
It works great with the sticks, you hold right and he goes right

In fact I'm doing that right now

edit: oops I fell
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Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2008, 06:12:50 PM
they control fine with analog stick and you'll be switching from 3D behind the back to 2D so fast and often it would be a waste to switch fingers

only control complaint I have is that quick step is on the bumpers and not triggers.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2008, 07:52:42 PM
ok, i'm having problems in the first werewolf stage

there's a lever i pulled, and a platform moves up and down

i can't figure out how to get on it

it's too high to jump up and grab, and i can't reach it by jumping from the rooftop opposite

so, help a dumbass out here, it's probably something obvious i am missing
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 03, 2008, 08:21:02 PM
ok, i'm having problems in the first werewolf stage

there's a lever i pulled, and a platform moves up and down

i can't figure out how to get on it

it's too high to jump up and grab, and i can't reach it by jumping from the rooftop opposite

so, help a dumbass out here, it's probably something obvious i am missing

this is when you put on your knuckles fursuit and yiff your neighbor

when you come back, the game will have beat itself
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Post by: demi on December 03, 2008, 08:31:57 PM
ok, i'm having problems in the first werewolf stage

there's a lever i pulled, and a platform moves up and down

i can't figure out how to get on it

it's too high to jump up and grab, and i can't reach it by jumping from the rooftop opposite

so, help a dumbass out here, it's probably something obvious i am missing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uHr_WbhvLE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3_LGNmOjoQ&feature=related
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 03, 2008, 09:01:17 PM
cool, thanks
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Post by: demi on December 04, 2008, 08:37:15 PM
i just spent the past 3 or so hours trying to beat eggmanland without dying (time trial) for a hotdog required for an achievement

and failed miserably

i want to cry
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Post by: tiesto on December 04, 2008, 10:15:06 PM
Not really feeling this game so far... apart from the brief moments when it's presented in a linear 2.5D fashion... the turning feels awkward and stiff, the game moves too fast in the Sonic portions, and the Werewolf portions are repetitive hack-slash with QTE's... wasn't a fan of this style when it was done in God of War, nor am I in this. I'll probably stick with the game but I'd probably be much better off playing Rush 2 or running through the Genesis games for the 217th time.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 05, 2008, 11:24:25 AM
Whoa, this Werehog stage has actual platforming :o

This game is great, especially once you get your combat and strength abilities up.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 05, 2008, 07:05:49 PM
Yeah, the werehog sections grow on you and become a lot more fun when you have a large arsenal of moves. The platforming sections are well-designed and a lot of fun.
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Post by: demi on December 05, 2008, 07:08:07 PM
I FUCKING DID IT, Eggmanland time trial cleared and hungry hungry hedgehog unlocked (acquire all food)

Now on to Level 2!
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Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 05, 2008, 07:52:29 PM
So is this game good or not?

I love Sonic Adventure btw
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 05, 2008, 07:54:36 PM
It's the spiritual sequel to Sonic Adventure 1, and it's arguably the best 3D Sonic game yet.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 05, 2008, 08:18:19 PM
ya
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Post by: demi on December 05, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
So it sucks then? :'(

right click > GTFO

unleashed > mirrors edge
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Post by: drew on December 05, 2008, 08:53:11 PM
thats not saying much

what isnt better than mirrors edge
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Post by: y2kev on December 05, 2008, 08:53:47 PM
too human
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Post by: drew on December 05, 2008, 08:55:42 PM
Prince of Persia
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 05, 2008, 09:27:43 PM
super mario galaxy
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 05, 2008, 09:40:07 PM
Yeah, the werehog sections grow on you and become a lot more fun when you have a large arsenal of moves. The platforming sections are well-designed and a lot of fun.

Until this one part, wtf? It's a level where I have to keep jumping between circular platforms in a river, with wizard type enemies on each one. I have no problem until a part where I have to jump across two poles, then swing on two poles. When I jump for the second swing-pole the green light never appears and I fall right in the water and have to do the whole thing over. huh?
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 05, 2008, 10:07:09 PM
Is it Chun-nan?

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-fZxzcq6AuM

You should also hold B instead of waiting for the green light to appear. If the pole is far, sprint then double jump. 
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 05, 2008, 10:24:25 PM
I always hold B, yea. The green shit never appears, Sonic just plumments. Can you dash off of a swing?


edit: that's the level. My problem area is after the checkpioint at 5:23, though it seems I can skip that whole section...
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 05, 2008, 10:38:06 PM
Played through the first level today.

TBH, I'm not that impressed.  It seemed alright but I'm leery that my $25 would have went to something much better.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 05, 2008, 10:58:39 PM
You mean that very first intro Sonic level thats like 3 minutes long? Forget that level, it's not a real level.
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Post by: demi on December 05, 2008, 11:01:03 PM
Getting 2'50 on Arid Sands is so easy yet so frustrating

Not sure I'm gonna grind for max Werehog either. blah

Probably mail this out once Underworld arrives. Please be tomorrow.
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Post by: demi on December 06, 2008, 11:21:38 AM
Demo coming next week for the HATERS
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 07, 2008, 08:53:04 PM
Curse, here is an achievement guide http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=108568
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Post by: demi on December 07, 2008, 08:54:23 PM
Yey, I posted in there ^_^
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 07, 2008, 09:02:00 PM
Curse, here is an achievement guide http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=108568

:bow AdmiralViscen :bow2
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 07, 2008, 09:06:57 PM
Quote from: demi
Day Tripper: Cleared all Sonic the Hedgehog levels

* This does not include hotdog missions or random missions, just the Acts

# of Acts per world:

Spagonia: 3 (Act 3 is behind the boss, on top of that wall climbing bit in the corner)
Apotos: 3
Mazuri: 3
Empire City: 2
Shamar: 2
Adabat: 3
Chu-nan: 3
Holoska: 2

Hard Day's Night: Cleared all Sonic the Werehog stages

* This does not include hotdog missions or random missions, just the Acts

# of Acts per world:

Spagonia: 1
Apotos: 2 (Act 2 is behind the destructable door on the right, near the bridge)
Mazuri: 2
Empire City: 1
Shamar: 1
Adabat: 2
Chu-nan: 2
Holoska: 1

Sweet. Awesome work, demi.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 07, 2008, 10:59:28 PM
How the fuck do I get to Spagonia Act 2 (daytime)? I already have Act 3.
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Post by: demi on December 07, 2008, 11:00:20 PM
In the sewer area, near where you get the walljump shoes. Go in there as Werehog (pull the switch then go down the elevator), then change back to Sonic in there, then dash across the water.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 07, 2008, 11:04:11 PM
omg. thank you, demi. :bow
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 07, 2008, 11:24:25 PM
Is the lightspeed dash required to complete that level? I hit a part with two spiky orbs and a line of rings between it, but I don't have the dash. lol
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Post by: demi on December 07, 2008, 11:29:19 PM
Pretty sure it is, I had the same problem
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 07, 2008, 11:33:52 PM
Pretty lame. I did the Chaos Emerald mission in Spagonia instead, when can I get the lightspeed dash?
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Post by: demi on December 07, 2008, 11:40:16 PM
Shamar
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Post by: demi on December 08, 2008, 10:16:51 AM
Demo is on XBL
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Post by: hyp on December 08, 2008, 06:57:22 PM
Demo is on XBL

 :o

my copy comes in from gamefly tomorrow.  yay
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Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 08, 2008, 06:57:58 PM
my 360 is borked fuuuuuuuuuck
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Post by: littlemathletics on December 08, 2008, 08:42:52 PM
Playing it on Wii right now. Remember when I predicted this would be the same kind of shitfest as Sonic Heroes? Fucking right it is. 2D bits are fun. 3D bits are balls.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 08, 2008, 08:45:57 PM
Playing it on Wii right now. Remember when I predicted this would be the same kind of shitfest as Sonic Heroes? Fucking right it is. 2D bits are fun. 3D bits are balls.

Not true for the HD version at all. Why are you playing this on Wii when you could at least play the demo on 360?

I'm just assuming you have a 360 based on your avatar. 
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Post by: demi on December 08, 2008, 08:46:47 PM
Playing it on Wii right now. Remember when I predicted this would be the same kind of shitfest as Sonic Heroes? Fucking right it is. 2D bits are fun. 3D bits are balls.

it is pretty much confirmed the werehog bits are shit on wii. better question is why you opted to play such an inferior experience. sonic with waggle, hey thats fun
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 08, 2008, 08:48:22 PM
Seriously. I'd rather get the PS2 version if I had no choice.
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Post by: littlemathletics on December 08, 2008, 08:50:08 PM
Review copy. Ask Sega why they feel I should experience an inferior version.

Mind you, cut scenes are still pretty on Wii, which is kinda surprising.
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Post by: archie4208 on December 08, 2008, 09:08:22 PM
Demo was actually pretty good. :o
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Post by: Jansen on December 08, 2008, 09:21:37 PM
yeah i, uh, enjoyed the demo

may Itagaki have mercy on my soul  :(
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Post by: cool breeze on December 08, 2008, 09:22:03 PM
is the demo Sonic + Werehog, or just Sonic?
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Post by: demi on December 08, 2008, 09:23:34 PM
it's just a sonic run.
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Post by: cool breeze on December 08, 2008, 09:24:07 PM
that explains it
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Post by: Jansen on December 08, 2008, 09:40:25 PM
considering how fun this demo is (played it 4 times already) i think i can suffer through the werehog stages

idk what is happening to me. normally i wouldn't like this or prince of persia :(
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 08, 2008, 10:02:24 PM
The werehog sections are *gasp* fun too. :omg The Sonic levels are fuck awesome, though. The bonus ones are brilliant.

It's a great game all around. I already got more than half of the game's achievements (thanks, demi). :D
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Post by: drohne on December 09, 2008, 12:34:06 AM
installing now :omg

pls dont suck
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Post by: drohne on December 09, 2008, 01:53:23 AM
eeehhhhhh i really don't know about this. the sonic levels are good fun, and seemingly less fragile than past 3d sonics, which were always teetering on the edge of messiness or glitchiness. and the visuals and music are excellent. but the proportion of sonic levels to OTHER SHIT seems really low. the werehog levels are, i suppose, tolerable, but that airplane qte level was sheer torture, particularly since i still associate 'abxy' with their snes positions. i don't know if i want to play this when i've got like four presumably better games sitting in shrinkwrap. i wish i could just play and replay the sonic levels and have done with it
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Post by: cool breeze on December 09, 2008, 01:57:26 AM
you'll get to that point soon.  The Africa Sonic level is also much better than that first one and that's also soon.

I have to get back to playing, but I got to the next werehog stage and didn't want to continue.  plus far cry 2 is really good and I'm spending my time playing that.
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Post by: Bebpo on December 09, 2008, 03:02:21 AM
I opened up my copy of Sonic Heroes for Xbox and tried playing it on my X360.

...I forgot how bad gaming could be.

Within the first two levels I fell off the level twice, had the camera go crazy where I couldn't see myself once, ran into a bunch of enemies that put me to a dead stop while running fast.  Came to a stop by hitting a wall while running straight.  And then finally WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE CHECKPOINTS!?!?  I died like at the end of level 2 I guess where you jump from turtle to turtle (because I jumped for a ramp and it jumped off the level) and then IT RESTARTED ME AT THE BEGINNING OF THE LEVEL...so I turned it off.

Also the characters would not stfu.

Graphics were pretty good though.  2d was broken in BC, but 3d models were really clean.

Unleashed is going to be A LOT better, right?
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 09, 2008, 06:40:01 AM
Unleashed is much better.
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Post by: littlemathletics on December 09, 2008, 06:50:54 AM
Yeah, even I'll pay that. Unleashed is leaps and bounds ahead of Heroes.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 09, 2008, 07:04:32 AM
Anyone know how I can access the encyclopedia? I don't even know where it is. I need it for Social Butterfly.
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Post by: demi on December 09, 2008, 09:18:28 AM
Pickle's lab in Spagonia
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 09, 2008, 11:05:14 AM
eeehhhhhh i really don't know about this. the sonic levels are good fun, and seemingly less fragile than past 3d sonics, which were always teetering on the edge of messiness or glitchiness. and the visuals and music are excellent. but the proportion of sonic levels to OTHER SHIT seems really low. the werehog levels are, i suppose, tolerable, but that airplane qte level was sheer torture, particularly since i still associate 'abxy' with their snes positions. i don't know if i want to play this when i've got like four presumably better games sitting in shrinkwrap. i wish i could just play and replay the sonic levels and have done with it

Check Curse's level breakdown, it's like 60% Sonic.
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Post by: demi on December 09, 2008, 11:06:51 AM
There are only 2 Tails levels. One at the beginning, and one at the end. The rest is Sonic/Werehog - and it's majority Sonic levels, if you look at my (not Curse's, just fyi) breakdown of Acts.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 09, 2008, 11:16:02 AM
What levels do the Werehog's skills max out at? I have 5000 rings, you think that's enough to get that achievement using gelatin?
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Post by: demi on December 09, 2008, 11:16:44 AM
Not even close
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 09, 2008, 11:22:58 AM
Ouch.

At least Sonic seems to level up fast.
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Post by: demi on December 09, 2008, 11:35:33 AM
Sonic maxes at Speed 11 and Ring Energy 7 (or 8, around there)

Werehog is like, Combat 31, everything else 11

I dont even feel like maxing him out
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 09, 2008, 11:38:04 AM
Ugh, I thought the others would be 5 or 6 or something. You're right, fuck that.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 09, 2008, 12:13:21 PM
I just made Combat 20 for the Thrasher achievement.
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Post by: hyp on December 09, 2008, 12:40:28 PM
the demo was fun though it still feels like rental material to me.
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Post by: Bebpo on December 09, 2008, 12:45:50 PM
That was the other thing about Heroes.  They kept saying "LEVEL UP" and I'm like wtf....how are there levels in this game....
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Post by: demi on December 09, 2008, 12:54:00 PM
Heroes is trash. Dunno why you bothered. Unleashed is the real deal.
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Post by: hyp on December 09, 2008, 12:55:21 PM
do you still own unleashed demi?
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Post by: Bebpo on December 09, 2008, 12:56:45 PM
Heroes is trash. Dunno why you bothered. Unleashed is the real deal.

I bothered because unleashed sitting on my shelf got me in the Sonic mood, but I like to play things in order if possible, so I started with the oldest Sonic game I have that I haven't played.

Turned out it was a bad idea. 
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 09, 2008, 12:57:55 PM
Heroes is pretty awful. Not sure why it got decent scores.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 09, 2008, 04:58:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh8PDGiEhYk

I love the bass line. :-[
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Post by: drohne on December 09, 2008, 05:40:58 PM
i got as far as the world map last night, and replaying the sonic levels is enough fun that i'm going to stick with it. the african sonic level is terrific. still don't care for the werehog. and i still don't think sonic games need towns, but as jrpg towns go, this game's towns are kind of charming. maybe it's just the music
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Post by: demi on December 09, 2008, 06:16:50 PM
you aint shit until you get the Blue Meteor and Speeding Ticket achievements
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 09, 2008, 06:26:28 PM
i got as far as the world map last night, and replaying the sonic levels is enough fun that i'm going to stick with it. the african sonic level is terrific. still don't care for the werehog. and i still don't think sonic games need towns, but as jrpg towns go, this game's towns are kind of charming. maybe it's just the music

Wait till you get the bonus stages, drohne. For example, in Adabat and there are two bonus day acts. One is 2D all the way through, it's like a race around a 3-lap course where in each lap you get new traps and enemy placements, and it gets progressively harder. The second is a quickstep challenge on the docks that tests your reflexes. They're both pretty fucking awesome.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 09, 2008, 10:31:43 PM
Just got Blue Meteor, was awesome.

Did you max out Sonic at least? Does it have a significant impact on your times? I did it with my speed and energy at 7 and 5.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 09, 2008, 11:31:50 PM
Does this game have bugged achievements? I met all 98 people in the game and didn't get an achievement.

...
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Post by: demi on December 09, 2008, 11:33:09 PM
are you SUUUUURE, check again
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 09, 2008, 11:39:33 PM
Oops. Was missing a person in Adabat. :-[
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Post by: demi on December 09, 2008, 11:47:53 PM
do you still own unleashed demi?

missed this post. i still have unleashed. i dont own it though.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 10, 2008, 12:20:39 AM
Arid Sands night act 1 is complete shit


Is there some trick to make these wizards stop respawning on this balcony area? Or are there really 4-5 waves of them?


edit: ghaha, you don't even have to go up there. Who the fuck came up with that?
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Post by: cool breeze on December 10, 2008, 03:34:23 PM
Amy is a ditsy bitch in this game
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Post by: cool breeze on December 10, 2008, 03:43:02 PM
What is my next objective after getting the camera and wasting the two flashes? I went to the Spawhatever place and the sonic icons aren't lit up, but I did get the wall jump shoes
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 10, 2008, 04:05:54 PM
After all the bitching, Abadat Act 1 did not have a bad framerate at all.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 10, 2008, 10:47:26 PM
This is the list of people I've spoken to that are in the Directory.

85 - Louie Montaine
86 - ???
87 - Def Big
88 - Elizabeth
90 - Charles
91 - Robert
92 - Li'l Kate
93 - Brenda
94 - Hot Dog Vendor

86 is the only one I am missing. Who is this person and why aren't they available in Empire City? Thanks in advance. :-[

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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2008, 10:48:30 PM
Holy fuck is the last segment of Eggmanland abominable.

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Post by: demi on December 11, 2008, 10:49:46 PM
LOL, Eggmanland is just awful. I wont defend it. Imagine the frustration trying to get the time trials done. Do it all -without dying-

Luckily they give you tonnnnns of time to do it
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Post by: drew on December 11, 2008, 10:51:52 PM
i played the demo a couple days ago

demi was right. :sonic  this is totally better than that 2006 shitfest.  although its hard to see whats in front of you
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2008, 10:53:58 PM
LOL, Eggmanland is just awful. I wont defend it. Imagine the frustration trying to get the time trials done. Do it all -without dying-

Luckily they give you tonnnnns of time to do it

Seriously man. It took me like 40 minutes and I still got a B rank.

The first time I attempted the 'final boss' they kept alternating ground pounds so that I went from like 90% health to 0% with no control of my character. It was like Lost Planet x 100.

Somehow slaughtered them on my second attempt though.

I also had to pause it and look up help in that room with the floating blue guys and the big fan blade. That was distinguished mentally-challenged. Then when you finally kill them all, you slide down a tunnel that launches you right into a hole unless you jump to reach the checkpoint :lol
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2008, 10:55:07 PM
Is the last boss also bullshit? If I'm going to be frustrated I'll just save it for tomorrow.
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Post by: demi on December 11, 2008, 10:57:27 PM
I dont thnk it was. I thought it was lame after the awesome 2006 one
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2008, 10:58:11 PM
OK, I'll go for it.

Sonic 2006 actually had a good boss? I could not bring myself to get that far
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Post by: demi on December 11, 2008, 11:02:57 PM
Epic cheesiness
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Post by: demi on December 11, 2008, 11:04:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjRYo1Nf2dE
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2008, 11:07:21 PM
Holy fuck, why couldn't every Werehog boss be that awesome instead of having that shitty giant monster :o :o

Checking that vid
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2008, 11:13:40 PM
:rofl @ this  boss fight

Why am I playing as a giant slow ass turd!?
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Post by: demi on December 11, 2008, 11:14:47 PM
Cause its supposed to show the dedication chip has to his friend, lol

Anyway, when he shoots the laser, dont get pissed when you die within 2 seconds. Block it and move away.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2008, 11:21:18 PM
How many phases are there? I'm doing pretty good, I'm up to the side scrolling Sonic portion.


edit: this is mad easy. and anti-climactic.
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Post by: demi on December 11, 2008, 11:25:00 PM
You smash the eyes, then you turn into super sonic and fly around hitting snakes and then you do some QTEs and you win
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2008, 11:36:54 PM
What the fuck, when I reach the slanty broken roadway I get hit by a fucking meteor every single time like this is CoD4.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 11, 2008, 11:44:04 PM
What the fuck, when I reach the slanty broken roadway I get hit by a fucking meteor every single time like this is CoD4.

Yeah, that happened to me too. Jump and boost over that roadway.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2008, 11:46:59 PM
Yea, then you nick an edge and it forces you to instantly plummet into a hole.

And if you wallride on the area before that, it forces you right into another hole.

This is worse than anything in the Dreamcast games, waht the fuck is this shit?




edit - there I got it, no meteors fell on the last run. Who designed that? It took me like 15 tries.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 11, 2008, 11:56:27 PM
Is the Super Sonic portion a separate mission on the select screen? I want to go to bed.
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Post by: demi on December 12, 2008, 12:01:12 AM
Nope
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Post by: cool breeze on December 12, 2008, 12:02:27 AM
What is my next objective after getting the camera and wasting the two flashes? I went to the Spawhatever place and the sonic icons aren't lit up, but I did get the wall jump shoes

I really can't find where I'm supposed to go

I found some guy who offers me time trial missions of the ice Sonic level, but noway to continue the story
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2008, 12:04:14 AM
Fuck it, I beat it :lol
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Post by: demi on December 12, 2008, 12:04:37 AM
You gotta watch the entire credits for the achievement
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Post by: demi on December 12, 2008, 12:05:25 AM
What is my next objective after getting the camera and wasting the two flashes? I went to the Spawhatever place and the sonic icons aren't lit up, but I did get the wall jump shoes

I really can't find where I'm supposed to go

I found some guy who offers me time trial missions of the ice Sonic level, but noway to continue the story

Go to where the glowy parts are on the world map. Look around. Get moar medals if you need them.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2008, 12:05:42 AM
Ugh

I got Day Tripper as soon as I finished it, fuck you Sega for not doing both.

Perfect Chaos >>> whatever it is I just did.
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Post by: cool breeze on December 12, 2008, 12:08:55 AM
What is my next objective after getting the camera and wasting the two flashes? I went to the Spawhatever place and the sonic icons aren't lit up, but I did get the wall jump shoes

I really can't find where I'm supposed to go

I found some guy who offers me time trial missions of the ice Sonic level, but noway to continue the story

Go to where the glowy parts are on the world map. Look around. Get moar medals if you need them.

there are no glowing parts, so I guess I need medals then.  damnit
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2008, 12:11:30 AM
Check overworld cities day and night, I didn't realize till the end that there were different medals.

I only got stuck on medals twice - right before the first Holoska stage (when I realized what medals even were) and then right before the Apatos Sonic stages. Didn't wind up bothering me too much.

Game is 8/10 to me. Completely eradicates SA1.
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Post by: drohne on December 12, 2008, 06:04:13 AM
HOLY FUCKIN SHIT @ rooftop run

this game is kind of amazing when it's not being distinguished mentally-challenged. and honestly it's put together well enough that it's hard to believe the press are treating it like it's sonic 06. though at this point i'm not sure i can blame anyone for failing to take this franchise seriously
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2008, 10:25:40 AM
Yea, I don't see how this gets less than 6 or 7 out of 10.

Curse, do I need to buy the encyclopaedia that tells me how many people I've spoken to?
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Post by: demi on December 12, 2008, 10:28:43 AM
You might ned to buy the bookshelf, but check Pickle's lab in Spagonia anyway
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 12, 2008, 10:36:13 AM
Yea, I don't see how this gets less than 6 or 7 out of 10.

Curse, do I need to buy the encyclopaedia that tells me how many people I've spoken to?

Yes, you need to buy a bookshelf. Joseph sells them in Spagonia.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2008, 10:39:24 AM
OK

And all the souvenirs are bought in shops right? What is the use of those random items you find like tea, maiden statue, crystal  ball etc? Do you need to buy from Wentos to get them all? I ran into him but he ran away.
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Post by: demi on December 12, 2008, 10:47:55 AM
You buy all souvinirs from shops and Wentos. Wentos randomly appears in a town (and stays there until you find him), then when you talk to him / buy from him, he runs away to another town and you repeat the process. The starred items are for quests you will get. They are not required for any achievement.
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Post by: demi on December 12, 2008, 10:49:53 AM
Oh and Wentos's items are random each time you visit. So you will probably have to keep finding him to make sure he sells a specific souvinir.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2008, 10:53:11 AM
Eh, not sure I'll bother then.
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Post by: demi on December 12, 2008, 06:03:59 PM
I found that you can buy stuff from Wentos and sell it back for sometimes up to twice the profit. I just buy/sold myself up to 70000 rings. Now I am scarfing Sonic with delicious Steaks from Empire City x 99 (roughly 9000 rings) for 50exp a piece - giving me 49 experience bars to use.

Oh, and Werehog maxes out at 11 for everything. And the final level requires 99 experience bars.

But, I'm just about done maxing him out. I will end this game at a cool crisp 850 / 1000
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 12, 2008, 09:46:12 PM
You sold them right back to Wentos, or to someone else in town?

WTF @ 99 levels per level, that's crazy.
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Post by: demi on December 12, 2008, 09:50:17 PM
Back to Wentos.

It varies too. I bought Hero Sandwiches for 30 rings, then sold them back for 90.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 13, 2008, 12:51:37 AM
I got some time to play it.

Those Tails QTEs are fucking awful.  How many of these levels are in the game?
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Post by: demi on December 13, 2008, 01:00:18 AM
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Post by: Bebpo on December 13, 2008, 01:07:40 AM
I opened mine and did the first Sonic level, Werehog level, Tails level.

It's...almost good?  Like it feels like the game design was not the problem this time around, but rather tech stuff.  Feels like if they gave it to a good dev for 6 months to clean it up it could be a 8 or 9 game.

+Graphics look better than 90% of the X360/PS3 rpgs...wtf!
+Werehog combat is actually decent.  Seems about as competent of button masher as God of War1
+Graphics are GOOD
+Sonic levels are less likely to have you randomly fall off the level than previous 3d Sonics
+Has more gameplay than Prince of Persia
+After the intro cutscenes which was unskippable (and SCARED ME with Nights Wii flashbacks), all the cutscenes are skippable THANK GOD!!!!  I'm not watching these designed-for-slow-3-year-olds skits.

-Controls with Sonic feel too loose.  Like I'm sliding around even when I'm walking.  When I run I don't feel like I'm going 100% where I want to be, but rather 'around' where I want to be.  Almost Wii-ish level of sensitivity overload.
-Camera is better than past games but it still SUCKS compared to 99% of real games.  I hate this camera in both Sonic and Werehog levels.
-Still fall off the levels sometimes because you can't judge depth with the camera or the game just bugs out
-FRAMERATE GOES TO SHIT IN WEREHOG FIGHTS....wtf, couldn't they have fixed this!?!
-While I'm cool with the Werehog platforming and fighting, the LETS PICK UP STONES puzzles are terrible
-Tails part would be nice if you could attack rather than defend only, also if you could, you know, move the plane

I think if the camera, controls, and framerate were smoothed out it'd actually be a legitimately good game.  As it stands it's good but Sonicely good, which is a standard of its own.

I think I'm going crazy.  I actually liked the first Werehog level better than the first Sonic level because I felt like I was actually in control and not sliding around on iceskates.  The God of War QTE finishers are lol, but fun and work about as well as GoW and KH.

I don't think I'd replay any of the levels, but the game is enjoyable enough I wouldn't mind just blowing through it quickly.
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Post by: y2kev on December 13, 2008, 01:08:25 AM
I did the day stage in Africa and that was great, but the one in Iceland or whatever sucked ass. Too much running around and now I have to collect tokens. I gave it a second shot but not for me. If I could just do the levels in order that'd be great.
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Post by: demi on December 13, 2008, 01:16:55 AM
Are you gathering the tokens in the towns and Entrance Stages? There's plenty to be found in those alone, both night and day versions.
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Post by: hyp on December 13, 2008, 01:07:52 PM
okay i got over hating the weresonic levels.  this game is pretty damn fun!  everything is so much better once you master the controls.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 13, 2008, 01:59:41 PM
This is like the worst video review I have ever seen. ign :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjyWXiZrSlQ

I like how Hilary intentionally jumps to his death at ~1:20. 


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Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 13, 2008, 02:34:19 PM
I like how the Werehog levels are the terrible scourge upon this game in the beginning of the review and by the end the hub worlds become the worst thing about the game.

What a clown.
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Post by: demi on December 13, 2008, 03:58:53 PM
I'm surprised he didnt mention the hotdog missions.
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Post by: demi on December 13, 2008, 05:36:24 PM
It's awesome. You want to be owned too? Stand in line, there's plenty to go around.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 13, 2008, 05:58:28 PM
How is this thread so frickin long? You people care about this game?

It's great. Get raged, cigarillo. :sonic
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Post by: cool breeze on December 13, 2008, 08:50:15 PM
Act 2 of Africa is hard because I can't figure out why every drift is so damn wide
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Post by: demi on December 13, 2008, 08:58:53 PM
I didn't drift at all in that level. I suck at drifting.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 13, 2008, 09:06:21 PM
I didn't drift at all in that level. I suck at drifting.

Same here. I basically walked to the finish line. :lol
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Post by: cool breeze on December 13, 2008, 09:19:54 PM
I ended up doing that but got a D
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 13, 2008, 10:54:14 PM
This is like the worst video review I have ever seen. ign :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjyWXiZrSlQ

I like how Hilary intentionally jumps to his death at ~1:20. 




What an asshole, this game is nowhere NEAR as bad as he says even in the first minute. It's a 6/10 at worst, if you absolutely loathe the Werehog levels. I'd put it at an 8/10 myself.


edit: If Africa act 2 is that racetrack level, then there is a mega shortcut in it that lets you skip half the track.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 13, 2008, 11:02:59 PM
It's an 8/10 for me too. As far as non-Sonic distractions in 3D Sonic games go, the werehog is probably the best one overall. I didn't find it as offensive as the Knuckles and Rouge stages in SA2. 
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Post by: demi on December 13, 2008, 11:12:18 PM
Let's tally up the ownages...

I'm going to go with the safe assumption that it will be crap.

owned

ugh.

owned

It's going to be crap.

it's just not going to be completely unplayable crap.

owned

If I had to bet when the next decent Sonic game would come out, i'd go with never.


owned

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/deoxysprime/Sonic/TheCycle.jpg)

owned

Nintendo Power gave it an 8/10, lol.

owned

the most bizarre part about Unleashed is that people are already doing preemptive damage control by starting hype for Sonic and the Black Knight.

owned

It will definitely be better than valkyria chronicles

:bow

I have no hope for this whatsoever. Sonic Rush was OK (never played the sequel), but for now I'm content with just replaying 1, 2, 3, +Knuckles, and CD.

owned

fail

owned

This game is gonna be awesome. Sonic 4 lyfe (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2198/2166312973_1d32c4396f_o.gif)

:bow

Apparently this game is 3 parts Werehog to every 1 part fast running stage

sega

oh... massive ownage here

Looks awesome and fun haters be damned.

wow, borys redeemed. but he's still dumb.

I'm getting it, will be awesome

:bow me again

there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now

yep thats some ownage

As someone who has played and completed Sonic 2006, Unleashed is already leagues better. Nobody else here has done that. I am the best Sonic fan around. I even have this giant Sonic cardboard thing. It's pretty sweet. Cause I'm a big Sonic fan.

I also accurately predicted Sonic Rush was a complete disaster, btw.

oh, here's me again :bow

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Post by: Bebpo on December 13, 2008, 11:14:36 PM
Ok, you actually win that because I said "decent" and Unleashed is at least decent.

If I had said "good" however....I'm not so sure.  :-*
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 13, 2008, 11:26:37 PM
It's an 8/10 for me too. As far as non-Sonic distractions in 3D Sonic games go, the werehog is probably the best one overall. I didn't find it as offensive as the Knuckles and Rouge stages in SA2. 

Yup. Werehog is better than every Sonic friend aside from Tails in SA1. The platforming as a whole is pretty good, too. My only real complaint is that enemies have too much HP and sometimes they respawn.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 13, 2008, 11:43:50 PM
Does anyone have the Boss (#86) in Empire City? Any idea of how I can get him?
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Post by: cool breeze on December 13, 2008, 11:45:10 PM
haha demi has quotes of me when I'm talking about the Wii version

Wii apologist

Werehog and tales stuff still suck, Sonic stuff goes from entertaining to awesome.

 
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Post by: demi on December 14, 2008, 12:01:14 AM
Does anyone have the Boss (#86) in Empire City? Any idea of how I can get him?

Probably have to do the singing quest where the Shamar guy wants to sing, so he goes to Empire City, and then you have to do a quest to fetch the record label boss
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 14, 2008, 12:07:26 AM
Does anyone have the Boss (#86) in Empire City? Any idea of how I can get him?

Probably have to do the singing quest where the Shamar guy wants to sing, so he goes to Empire City, and then you have to do a quest to fetch the record label boss

Oh, I already did Shadi's singing quest, and I got the record label producer (Def Big he's #87). I'm just missing #86 for some reason I can't find out why. :lol

Thanks though, demi. :)
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 14, 2008, 12:21:00 AM
Played some more.

I don't have a beef with the Werehog sections.  I kind of enjoy them.

The Sonic sections seem alright.  I just hate how fast Sonic moves, to the point where you feel like you have no control over him.  I liked the Sonic Adventure 1/2 type of speed where it was fast but you felt in control.  A lot of times, I force Sonic to stop to see if I even have any control.

Aside from the shit Tails level, I think this game is pretty good overall.
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Post by: hyp on December 14, 2008, 01:00:43 AM
sonic unleashed is the hotness.  :rock
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 14, 2008, 02:35:50 PM
sonic unleashed is the hotness.  :rock

:bow

I got 720/1000 so far. I don't think I'm going to try to go for 1000 since the last level almost gave me an ulcer the first time I played it.

I also have to complete Time Trial 1 for Eggman Land's special hot dog (for Hungry Hedgehog), correct?
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Post by: demi on December 14, 2008, 03:08:09 PM
Yes, but if you can do it once, might as well do it 2 more times - thats all you have to do for the hotdog achievement there
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Post by: Akala on December 14, 2008, 04:08:23 PM
Fucking game is giving me a DRE. Can't even install onto the HDD. I had just finished a stupid werehog level too.  :violin
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Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2008, 04:41:02 PM
Is there any trick to when you are fighting squads and squads of enemies and there are no rings and they are just gradually chipping your life down by pokes here and there until you eventually die?  Can you buy potions or something?
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Post by: demi on December 14, 2008, 04:49:36 PM
Just use the Y button which gives you a bigger reach. Some enemy groups you dont even have to fight. Use Unleashed as well. But mostly just mash the Y button and run in circles.
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Post by: Jansen on December 16, 2008, 01:16:07 PM
gamefly shipped me a copy!

i'm excited since i liked the demo and the last sonic game i played was SA2

Let's tally up the ownages...

there's no reason to buy this and encourage sega further when there are actual good games worth spending your money on out right now

yep thats some ownage


at least i said the game was good after i played the demo dammit!
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Post by: dammitmattt on December 16, 2008, 02:51:33 PM
Just use the Y button which gives you a bigger reach. Some enemy groups you dont even have to fight. Use Unleashed as well. But mostly just mash the Y button and run in circles.

That sounds like an amazing combat system.  Why again are you playing this every time I see you on XBL?!? :)
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 16, 2008, 03:24:02 PM
Curse, is there a good FAQ for talking to all the villagers? I'm missing a handful and it looks like I need to do specific side missions in order to talk to certain people.

Or if you remember off the top of your head: 12, 26, 50, 51, 83, 86, 92.
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Post by: demi on December 16, 2008, 04:21:24 PM
Just use the Y button which gives you a bigger reach. Some enemy groups you dont even have to fight. Use Unleashed as well. But mostly just mash the Y button and run in circles.

That sounds like an amazing combat system.  Why again are you playing this every time I see you on XBL?!? :)

LOL it is no different from God of War

Seriously game is awesome - but I dont have it anymore, sent it back to GF
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 16, 2008, 04:31:12 PM
All I need to beat for the all-night level achievement is Abadat act 2. There is a part where you need to fight 50,000 enemies in order to free the path to press 4 switches, and then with no checkpoint you need to swing across 10 or so electricity blue blob guys.

Any tips for this? You get zapped and you are fucked and have to replay 8 minutes of brawling.

edit: fuck I don't even have to take that path  :duh
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Post by: T234 on December 17, 2008, 12:56:53 PM
So this is actually good?
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 17, 2008, 04:43:49 PM
Curse, is there a good FAQ for talking to all the villagers? I'm missing a handful and it looks like I need to do specific side missions in order to talk to certain people.

Or if you remember off the top of your head: 12, 26, 50, 51, 83, 86, 92.


I don't remember doing side quests for most of those

12 - Otto. He's found outside the university in Spagonia. Try going there at night.
26 - Dora. Also found outside the university in Spagonia. Try going there at night.
50 - Yaya. Essie's daughter. I think she's hiding behind a tree next to her mother the first time you see her. Not sure if it's night or day.
51 - He's Mazuri's hot dog vendor.
83 - Nagi. She's a little girl found at night in Adabat. She needs to be exorcised.
86 - The Boss. He's found in Spagonia (near Joseph the vendor) at night.
92 - Brenda. American freelance writer that can be found anywhere but Empire City. I think I first found her first outside the entrance to the hub world in Chun-nan. 

Hope that helps.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 17, 2008, 04:45:23 PM
Thanks, guess I didn't do much talking at night.

What does Brenda look like?
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Post by: demi on December 17, 2008, 04:46:01 PM
A slut with a bag over her shoulder
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Post by: Jansen on December 20, 2008, 03:48:49 PM
is there a good guide to this game somewhere? gamefaqs has some for the wii version, are they good enough?
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Post by: demi on December 20, 2008, 03:49:26 PM
it's a sonic game
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Post by: Jansen on December 20, 2008, 04:05:22 PM
why yes. yes it is.

but i need to find deem coins without spending an eternity doing so.
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Post by: demi on December 20, 2008, 04:08:55 PM
pretty sure there isnt a coin guide yet. have fun fetching those, though.
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Post by: Bebpo on December 20, 2008, 07:45:25 PM
This game was decent until I couldn't play more Sonic levels because I didn't have enough tokens.

Token hunting  :yuck  I think I'm done with this.  Too bad because the sonic levels were really good.  Maybe the best since SA1.  But having to put up with all this shit is like Nights Wii all over again.  When will Sega learn.  smh.  Even if they wanted to do WEREHOG, I'd be fine with a game that was just alternating WEREHOG/SONIC levels with no towns, collect-a-thons, story.  Just stages like a NORMAL VIDEOGAME.
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Post by: TVC15 on December 20, 2008, 07:59:12 PM
Shit, this thread has me interested in trying the game.
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Post by: demi on December 20, 2008, 08:00:38 PM
why do people complain about the coins? there's a fuckton in the hub world and entrance stages as it is. i am 100% confident you can complete the game without having to farm coins in any actual level.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 20, 2008, 08:08:08 PM
I only got stuck on the coins twice - in Holaska (third region) because I didn't even realize that I was supposed to be getting coins at all until then. Took like 5 minutes to get enough. Then for the last level I was 27 short but even that only took like 15 minutes to get once I realized you could go back to towns at night to pillage new coins.
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 20, 2008, 10:49:33 PM
why do people complain about the coins? there's a fuckton in the hub world and entrance stages as it is. i am 100% confident you can complete the game without having to farm coins in any actual level.

I completed the game without farming coins in any actual level. The hub world and entrance stages have plenty of coins, and different coins appear depending on whether it's day or night. 
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on December 30, 2008, 11:40:41 AM
I'm surprised some of you don't have to look for coins every once and while. I was short 11 before I could go to Adabat Daytime.

Time for the final stage  :hyper
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on December 30, 2008, 03:46:35 PM
That was the worst horrible horricfic terrible bad difficult stage ever.

Nice Ending.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2009, 10:09:19 PM
I tip my hat to you guys who have the patience and skills to finish this game.

I tried getting back into it and playing it today.  Here is how it went:
-Do rooftop run night stage = ok, no pain.
-Do Hoolaska day stage = kinda shitty, annoying Sonic 2006 deaths here and there because of the camera
-Go to hunan = omg, the framerate is AWFUL
-Do dragon night stage = oh wait, you need to be lvl.3 medals and you are like 10 short.
-Spend an hour running around all the hub stages and towns collecting all the moon/sun medals + redo a few sonic day stages and TRY to get more medals but I barely get any because they are so fucking fast and when you miss one most of the time you have to restart the entire stage if you want it.
-Do dragon night stage = SO MUCH TRIAL AND ERROR DEATH IN PLATFORMING.  OMG
-Fight pheonix boss = FRAMERATE IS SO BAD I AM STILL DOING COMBO WHEN QTE APPEARS AND IT HITS THE WRONG BUTTON.  FRAMERATE IS SO BAD I GRAB A BARREL AND TURN TO THROW IT AND HIT THROW AND HE DOESN'T TURN AND THROWS IT AT A WALL
-Go do rooftop run day stage = Kinda good, but then kinda shitty towards the end with all the robot beams and stuff
-Go do dragon day stage = OH WAIT YOU NEED TO BE LVL.4 MEDALS AND YOU ARE 10 SHORT
-Since I've gotten most of the hub/town ones that means I'd need to replay a THIRTY MINUTE LONG SHITTY WEREHOG LEVELS to get more Sun medals...I'm done for the day.  Maybe another day.
-Go and check faq to see what the final max medal level is.  If it's 4 then maybe I will bare it and do another hour of medal grinding and then just finish off the rest of the stages.
-Reads faq...LEVEL 7 (120 MEDALS REQUIRED)...WTF!??!?!? 
......I'm done with this game

I looooove the graphics, but no game has made me want to throw my controller through a wall like this in a long time.  The camera/controls SUCK SO BAD and the game design with the medal grinding is horrible.  I hate Sonic.  :maf
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 03, 2009, 10:51:17 PM
(http://tiles.xbox.com/tiles/CX/Uy/1oCLiGJhbC9NFQUcXFZRFzEyL2FjaC8wLzkAAAAA5+fn+R11Eg==.jpg)
(http://tiles.xbox.com/tiles/MX/Mu/0ICLiGJhbC8yFQUcXFZRFzEyL2FjaC8wL0YAAAAA5+fn-wFzKg==.jpg)
(http://tiles.xbox.com/tiles/SY/kF/1oCLiGJhbC9ECxoDG11TWTEyL2FjaC8wLzEwAAAAAOfn5-kqiVU=.jpg)
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Post by: demi on February 03, 2009, 10:52:38 PM
(http://tiles.xbox.com/tiles/BW/uG/0YCLiGJhbC9ACxoDG11TWTEyL2FjaC8wLzE0AAAAAOfn5-6paxk=.jpg)

 :-*
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 03, 2009, 10:54:29 PM
 :drool
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on February 03, 2009, 11:04:19 PM
I tip my hat to you guys who have the patience and skills to finish this game.

I tried getting back into it and playing it today.  Here is how it went:
-Do rooftop run night stage = ok, no pain.
-Do Hoolaska day stage = kinda shitty, annoying Sonic 2006 deaths here and there because of the camera
-Go to hunan = omg, the framerate is AWFUL
-Do dragon night stage = oh wait, you need to be lvl.3 medals and you are like 10 short.
-Spend an hour running around all the hub stages and towns collecting all the moon/sun medals + redo a few sonic day stages and TRY to get more medals but I barely get any because they are so fucking fast and when you miss one most of the time you have to restart the entire stage if you want it.
-Do dragon night stage = SO MUCH TRIAL AND ERROR DEATH IN PLATFORMING.  OMG
-Fight pheonix boss = FRAMERATE IS SO BAD I AM STILL DOING COMBO WHEN QTE APPEARS AND IT HITS THE WRONG BUTTON.  FRAMERATE IS SO BAD I GRAB A BARREL AND TURN TO THROW IT AND HIT THROW AND HE DOESN'T TURN AND THROWS IT AT A WALL
-Go do rooftop run day stage = Kinda good, but then kinda shitty towards the end with all the robot beams and stuff
-Go do dragon day stage = OH WAIT YOU NEED TO BE LVL.4 MEDALS AND YOU ARE 10 SHORT
-Since I've gotten most of the hub/town ones that means I'd need to replay a THIRTY MINUTE LONG SHITTY WEREHOG LEVELS to get more Sun medals...I'm done for the day.  Maybe another day.
-Go and check faq to see what the final max medal level is.  If it's 4 then maybe I will bare it and do another hour of medal grinding and then just finish off the rest of the stages.
-Reads faq...LEVEL 7 (120 MEDALS REQUIRED)...WTF!??!?!? 
......I'm done with this game

I looooove the graphics, but no game has made me want to throw my controller through a wall like this in a long time.  The camera/controls SUCK SO BAD and the game design with the medal grinding is horrible.  I hate Sonic.  :maf

Give it another try. You'll dig the upcoming stuff.

And :O at demi. True skill  :bow2
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Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2009, 11:05:40 PM
I wish I could find a good faq that at least said HERE ARE WHERE THE MEDALS ARE AT: GO GET THEM.

All the faqs are for the Wii game and the Wii game is like completely different or something.  I was using the one X360 faq on gamefaqs and it's really terribly organized.

I dunno, the thought of playing 2 levels + boss -> medal grind for an hour -> 2 levels + boss -> medal grind for an hour -> repeat a few more times sounds horrible.  Especially when 1 of those 2 levels tends to suck each time and the other is 50/50 chance of being good.
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Post by: demi on February 03, 2009, 11:06:34 PM
You don't need a FAQ. Go to each town hub, and collect the coins for both the night and day bits. You will - guaranteed - have enough coins to complete the game
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Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2009, 11:08:20 PM
You don't need a FAQ. Go to each town hub, and collect the coins for both the night and day bits. You will - guaranteed - have enough coins to complete the game

I already did that and I'm short to get to lvl.4.

I mean I almost get ZERO medals in the levels.  In the daylight stages I have like 0/3, 2/7 for most.  In the nighttime ones I have like 5/9, 2/4 for most.  The problem is that I hate the levels the first time so I don't really want to replay them unless I know EXACTLY where each medal is so I don't have to look for it and jump to my death 50 times trying to find them.
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Post by: demi on February 03, 2009, 11:09:26 PM
DOING IT WRONG
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Post by: Bebpo on February 04, 2009, 02:37:26 AM
Give it another try. You'll dig the upcoming stuff.

Ok I gave it another shot and did some serious medal grinding before I did any levels.  I had ~65 medals by the time I finished the 4th boss and I should have about 85 by the time I finish the 5th boss next time I play which would let me access medal 6 stages.  I'm just worried about getting 120 medals for the last ones.  There's only like 1 or 2 towns left now to scourge for medals and I'm seriously terrible at getting medals during the daytime Sonic stages.  I did Arid Sand Day and I got 1 sun medal, 1 moon medal total :(  The Sonic stages are too fast for me, I just hold forward the whole time and keep tapping X.  I have no idea what is happening in them.  I get most of the medals in the Werehog stages though.

I don't really know why I'm playing it outside the graphics though ^^;  I've skipped every cutscene in the game so far so I have no idea what the story is.  I haven't talked to any NPCs in the town except when I had to at the start to advance.  I haven't done any of their missions.  I haven't bought anything at the shops.  I'm just doing levels and I sort of enjoy them at times and then sort of don't at times when they are annoying.  I guess I just feel like I've put a bunch of time in so I might as well finish it instead of having it sit forever unfinished on the shelf.  Last Sonic game I actually finished was Sonic Adventure 1.  :(

Also the framerate in this game is so fucking terrible outside of the Sonic Day stages.  It's like they didn't even care to optimize anything.  Empire City runs at like FIVE FRAMES PER SECOND and it's not even a great looking area.  Shambar runs soooo choppy too.  Ughhh, the engine looks awesome at times, but then chug chug chug. 
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 04, 2009, 04:43:20 PM
Definitely one of the best games of 2008
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Post by: Bebpo on February 04, 2009, 06:41:56 PM
Definitely one of the best games of 2008

 :rofl

I'm determined to finish it, but at this point my IGN score breakdown would be:

Presentation = 7.0; Cutscenes are terrible but you can skip them
Graphics = 7.0; Game looks amazing but framerate is terrible a lot
Sound = 4.0; Voice acting is awful, music is forgettable
Gameplay = 1.0; Plays like shit
Replay value = 7.0; Lot's of mini-games and hidden stuff but they all play like shit
Overall (not a sum of the above) = 1.0; It's a sonic game
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Post by: CurseoftheGods on February 04, 2009, 07:47:17 PM
Definitely one of the best games of 2008

I agree.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2009, 08:07:38 PM
I got to what I guess is the last level before Eggman, Jungle Joyride at Adabat during the daytime and it needs 120 sun medals jeeeeeezus.  I thought I was doing great with medals and ahead of the game but I only have 105 and I have every single one from the towns & entrance stages.

This is going to be a pain.  >_<  Do I need to talk to the townspeople and do their stupid missions to get medals?
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Post by: demi on February 05, 2009, 08:08:00 PM
I'm rooting for you Bebpo
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Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2009, 08:27:55 PM
Ok, redid the very first Werehog stage and got all the medals.  Now I only need 7 Sun Medals.
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Post by: demi on February 05, 2009, 08:29:40 PM
Do I need to talk to the townspeople and do their stupid missions to get medals?

You can get some medals by giving the Professor souvenirs, and SOME town missions do have medals
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Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2009, 09:51:21 PM
I never even got a single souvenir.  I thought I did but when I went to hand them to the professor it says I have none.  But I remember getting things in the werehog levels and it said "YOU SHOULD GIVE THIS TO THE PROFESSOR".  I wonder wtf happened.  I want the achievement for giving your first souvenir to him  :maf

I got together enough Sun medals and did Jungle Joyride Day.  That was HARD.  Partly because the framerate was like in single digits.  I thought my X360 was dying :(  I'm glad I stocked up on lives when medal grinding.  Beat the Egg Lancer too.

So since there aren't any night stages that require level 7 moon, and since I have 116 moon medals, is there any point in finding 4 more to get to moon level 7?  Is there an achievement for having both moon/sun at lvl.7?  I already got the 100 medal achievement for both moon/sun.

Also I'm guessing the tails level -> eggman level -> final bosses is going to be non-stop hard.  Where is a good place to grind extra lives?  I probably want like 20 before I attempt it.  Junglejoyride Day took me 9 >_<  Also is the eggman stage a Werehog or Sonic stage?

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Post by: demi on February 05, 2009, 09:56:52 PM
You can buy souvenirs from the various shops

There are achievements for getting half the medals, then all the medals

The eggman stage is BOTH
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Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 05, 2009, 10:00:07 PM
I'm kicking myself for not picking this up when it was the Amazon DotD
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Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2009, 10:00:40 PM
Thanks.  Is the Tails/Eggman/Bosses stuff a marathon?  What happens if you die and get game over?  Does it pop you out before the tails ride and you have to do that all over again?  
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Post by: demi on February 05, 2009, 10:01:45 PM
Tails level is stand-alone, then you get to go to the Eggman hubworld, which from there is a non-stop thrill ride to the end of the game. When you do beat the game, you can go straight to the final boss whenever you want (level select)
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Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2009, 10:03:30 PM
Hmmmm, but if I die on the boss and game over do I have to do the pre-boss final level over again?

Just trying to figure out if I need to grind a bunch of spare lives before attempting this.
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Post by: demi on February 05, 2009, 10:04:24 PM
I'm pretty sure you can go straight to the boss
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Post by: Bebpo on February 05, 2009, 10:05:35 PM
Cool.  Will skip grinding then and just prepare for a lot of retries until I beat it! 

determined  :mrt
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 06, 2009, 12:08:22 AM
Uhhhh go into the last stage with a lot of lives.
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on February 06, 2009, 12:20:01 AM
A LOT of lives.
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2009, 12:26:29 AM
Holy shit.  I game over'd 40 minutes into the last stage.

I'm not doing that again.  Done with the game I guess.   :-\

So many parts of the final stage were total bullshit.  The heat room with the pipes was AHHHHHHHHHH.  I DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN. AHHHHH.

I was at the sonic part after that where you were running forward on the belt with the lasers and spikes and bricks.  WHEN DOES THE LEVEL END!?!?!??!
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: demi on February 06, 2009, 12:44:14 AM
A lot of lives? I did it in one, lolz
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2009, 12:57:35 AM
I'm stupid, I didn't grind lives and I tried it again.  Spent another 20 mins at the boiler room pipes which are THE WORST THING EVER but blew through the rest.

I just past the free falling area and I'm about 25 mins in.  I just turned into werehog IS THIS ALMOST OVER?!!?!?!?!.
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2009, 12:57:51 AM
Hell would be playing this stage eternally and it never ends.
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2009, 01:14:59 AM
BEAT THE LEVEL
 :kylielaff :kylielaff :kylielaff
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2009, 01:50:38 AM
THIS GAME NEVER ENDS

I AM SUPER SONIC FOR THE 3RD TIME NOW.  PLEASE END JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2009, 01:53:54 AM
4TH TIME.  I CAN'T SEE SHIT GODDAMN THIS CAMERA
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: demi on February 06, 2009, 01:56:35 AM
lol
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2009, 02:02:08 AM
I THINK I BEAT IT.  CLEAR ACHIEVEMENT HAS NOT POPPED UP SO I AM STILL APPREHENSIVE

PS.  REMIND ME TO NEVER BUY A SONIC GAME AGAIN
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: demi on February 06, 2009, 02:10:51 AM
You gotta watch the credits
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: Bebpo on February 06, 2009, 02:26:31 AM
The game has good achievements.  That's the best thing I will ever say about it.

I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever play a Sonic game again after this. 
Title: Re: Is the new Sonic gonna be any good? Or are people gonna NOT be cheeseburger Surprised?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 06, 2009, 09:58:00 AM
Yea, the ending is weak. But the game rocks!