Hellboy II > TDK
I do think it's a bit better than BB
Hellboy II
TDK > Frost/Nixon.
TDK > Frost/Nixon.
If Heath Ledger hasn't died, this movie wouldn't have had a tenth of the zomg awesome movie hype it had.
Speed Racer > any of the 2008 blockbusters mentioned in this thread.
I need to hear the story behind this post.
Wha... seriously? how?
i liked it, but boy you really can't think about it too much or it just falls apart
I saw Iron Man and Dark Knight twice in the theaters and my conclusion is that outside of RJD's performance, TDK outdoes Iron Man in pretty much every way.
Iron Man's definitely a fun movie and one of the better superhero movies in recent years, but TDK is the clear winner.
Speed Racer > any of the 2008 blockbusters mentioned in this thread.
I need to hear the story behind this post.
The story is that Speed Racer kicks ass.
Ah, this is the anti-populous Evilbore I remember!
Speed Racer > any of the 2008 blockbusters mentioned in this thread.
I need to hear the story behind this post.
The story is that Speed Racer kicks ass.
Pretty much.
Speed Racer > any of the 2008 blockbusters mentioned in this thread.
I need to hear the story behind this post.
The story is that Speed Racer kicks ass.
Pretty much.
Solo you like Speed Racer more? You were one of the biggest TDK fanboys at GAF after you saw it the second time.
TDK was an awesome movie and to be honest, I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about with some of the criticisms.
TAS >>> TDK >>> Batman > returns >>> BB >>. the rest.
TAS >>> TDK >>> Batman > returns >>> BB >>. the rest.
Begins at the end? That's certainly odd.
The best of TAS is fantastic and some of the best animated tv ever but there is A LOT of shitty kiddy episodes in TAS most seem to forget, or try to forget. Those alone make it impossible to be better than TDK in my eyes.
"First, we find two empty buildings. Without the cops noticing, we'll secretly sneak in hundreds of drums of explosive liquids, and wire all of them to explode. Next, we'll orchestrate an attack on the convoy transporting Harvey Dent. This will involve blocking busy streets, blowing police helicopters out of the air and launching missiles at the armored car. All of this will be done, not to kill Dent (though that could happen at any moment) but to cause Batman to intervene so that he will throw me in jail.
Then, while the whole town is on alert, we go ahead and have our henchmen kidnap both Dent and Rachel Dawes and strap them in with the bombs in the two abandoned buildings. Then I'll send Batman after one of them, knowing that this will result in Rachel being killed and Dent being a certain distance from the explosion as to become grotesquely injured and disillusioned. Then I'll blow up the jail without accidentally killing myself. Gentlemen, it couldn't be simpler."
......
THE PROBLEM:
Really nothing, as long as absolutely every single event happens exactly as it did in the film, down to the millimeter and microsecond.
If the rocket blows up Dent's armored car instead of hitting the Batmobile, if the Batmobile doesn't happen to have a motorcycle hidden inside it, if somebody clears the makeshift roadblock out of the way before the convoy gets there, if traffic allows the cops to get to Rachel before Batman gets to Dent, if a cop happens to be stations out in front of Rachel's building when the cops get the coordinates, if a hunk of debris from the building hits Dent and kills him as he's escaping the explosion...
You get the idea.
this is the worst thread of Decembergo re-watch your ron howard dvd collection
Speed Racer > any of the 2008 blockbusters mentioned in this thread.
I need to hear the story behind this post.
The story is that Speed Racer kicks ass.
Pretty much.
Solo you like Speed Racer more? You were one of the biggest TDK fanboys at GAF after you saw it the second time.
And TDK is my second favorite of the year so far, Rachel Getting Married is my #1. I expect Slumdog Millionaire, Milk, Curious Case of Benjamin Button, and potentially Frost/Nixon (not a Ron Howard fan but it's politics and I LOVE Frank Langella) to all beat TDK for me though. Slumdog opens here this weekend and Milk next weekend...
I remember you pimping Lions for Lambs before it came outBecause it was politics, I never ended up seeing it when it got shit reviews.
So you admit once the establishment tells you something isn't good you avoid it instead of forming your own opinion? No wonder you love the OscarsIt costs money to go to movies, if a movie is getting horrible reviews and it's not of some franchise/director/actor/etc I adore why would I waste my time? Going by your logic I should see every single movie ever.
smh
i'll avoid any movie pimped by cheebs. real talk.avoid the dark knight then
and that the movie would have probably been better if it ended with Joker in the car instead of continuing on (but personally I'm glad it ended so I didn't have to wait another few years to see the rest).
Here's hoping The Wrestler doesn't suck.
I'm not saying you shouldn't avoid bad movies but if a movie looks like it'll be interesting, who the fuck cares what critics think.I wasn't interested enough, I don't see every movie I may have had some interest in it at some point. It's not like I avoid movies or anything PD. I've seen all of these in theaters this year, a lot of them were shit as well. I am not as picky as you make it seem like lol:
I really liked The Fountain and it got killed in reviews.
Here's hoping The Wrestler doesn't suck.
Well, it's a 100% so far at RottenTomatoes with 29 reviews.
And Benjamin Button is at 90% with 10 reviews.
a bunch of summer box office movies, dumb comedies and oscar porn :punchbasically all type of movies there outside of chick flicks and horror movies lol? I guess I should have seen Sex and The City and Saw V.
Masturbate like a normal dude. Or watch Juno, if you're Cheebs.
real talk on the down low: I watched Saw II-IV and kinda...was interested. Yea they aren't good but I want to see Saw V now, just to know what happens :-\
Hopefully they release a director's cut that changes the ending (and beginning).
you guys see people on GAF naming the ending as not only one of the best scenes in the movies but of all time? :lol
Everyone will remember TDK decades from now
Everyone will remember TDK decades from nowThe last movies I recall getting this sort of fellatio en masse were the Lord of the Rings movies. And guess what? 5 years later, and there isnt anybody talking about them.
There are big huge films that the general public still references and talks about like Star Wars, Jaws...etc. Those type of films have greater interest in the general public as of 2008 than LOTR does right now I would say.Everyone will remember TDK decades from nowThe last movies I recall getting this sort of fellatio en masse were the Lord of the Rings movies. And guess what? 5 years later, and there isnt anybody talking about them.
Plenty of people still talk about the Lord of the Rings movies, they just aren't being talked about by the general public. That's nothing new, though, the general public can't focus on something for more than a few days anyway.
There are big huge films that the general public still references and talks about like Star Wars, Jaws...etc. Those type of films have greater interest in the general public as of 2008 than LOTR does right now I would say.Everyone will remember TDK decades from nowThe last movies I recall getting this sort of fellatio en masse were the Lord of the Rings movies. And guess what? 5 years later, and there isnt anybody talking about them.
Plenty of people still talk about the Lord of the Rings movies, they just aren't being talked about by the general public. That's nothing new, though, the general public can't focus on something for more than a few days anyway.
I honestly don't think TDK will be the staple every fan wants it to be, nor will it be forgettable. What I mean is that if 10 years from now I look back and come up with the best movie of the decade TDK wouldn't be in the top of my list but at the same time if someone asks me what's the best movie of '08 I might remember it.
btw what's S-M?
There are big huge films that the general public still references and talks about like Star Wars, Jaws...etc. Those type of films have greater interest in the general public as of 2008 than LOTR does right now I would say.Everyone will remember TDK decades from nowThe last movies I recall getting this sort of fellatio en masse were the Lord of the Rings movies. And guess what? 5 years later, and there isnt anybody talking about them.
Plenty of people still talk about the Lord of the Rings movies, they just aren't being talked about by the general public. That's nothing new, though, the general public can't focus on something for more than a few days anyway.
Thats what Im saying - in no way, shape or form have any of these modern blockbusters penetrated into pop culture like the Star Wars' or Jaws' of the world. TDK is currently getting all the love, but its not like S-M in 2002, S-M2 in 2004, and BB in 2005 didnt get the same treatment. In this genre more than any other, the time from being on top of the mountain to being toppled and thrown out the window seems very short. Thats why I said that if Watchmen delivers, it will take the title of BEST COMIC MOVIE EVAR until the next thing tops it.
Everyone will remember TDK decades from now
No, just no.
The last movies I recall getting this sort of fellatio en masse were the Lord of the Rings movies. And guess what? 5 years later, and there isnt anybody talking about them. And they were a MUCH bigger phenomenon than TDK. No, good sir, no one will remember TDK once it gets eclipsed. If Watchmen turns out decent, TDK will be on the backburner less than a year after it came out. And I say all this as someone who loved TDK, but jesus, get real.
If you were being sarcastic, then good on you, the joke's on me. If not, may god have mercy on your soul!
I honestly don't think TDK will be the staple every fan wants it to be, nor will it be forgettable. What I mean is that if 10 years from now I look back and come up with the best movie of the decade TDK wouldn't be in the top of my list but at the same time if someone asks me what's the best movie of '08 I might remember it.
but that's me, so...
Everyone will remember TDK decades from now
No, just no.
The last movies I recall getting this sort of fellatio en masse were the Lord of the Rings movies. And guess what? 5 years later, and there isnt anybody talking about them. And they were a MUCH bigger phenomenon than TDK. No, good sir, no one will remember TDK once it gets eclipsed. If Watchmen turns out decent, TDK will be on the backburner less than a year after it came out. And I say all this as someone who loved TDK, but jesus, get real.
If you were being sarcastic, then good on you, the joke's on me. If not, may god have mercy on your soul!
Let some time go by before dismissing LOTR. It'll dominate Blu Ray whenver it comes out. It's not going to disappear from the public conscious anytime soon.
My man Guillermo's gonna bring the lightning and thunder. Believe it.
They're not splitting the book into two films. One Hobbit film, one film spanning the 60 years between the end of the Hobbit and the beginning of FOTR
Agreed, I'm more interested in the Hobbit film. Althought the second will have interesting stuff to work with, including more wizards, Aragorn meeting Gandalf/tracking Gollum, etc
Hm, what stuff from the appendex? Maybe how they met or something? FOTR EE has some stuff from the appendex concerning them
Anyone that thinks Lord of the Ring pop-culture status is ahead of The Dark Knight or even Twilight, is crazy. It was a fad.
When is LOTR gonna be on blu-ray?
Anyone that thinks Lord of the Ring pop-culture status is ahead of The Dark Knight or even Twilight, is crazy. It was a fad.
Anyone that thinks Lord of the Ring pop-culture status is ahead of The Dark Knight or even Twilight, is crazy. It was a fad.
Last year people were saying No Country and TWBB were top tier films. How do they rank on your "talking" scale today?
Last year people were saying No Country and TWBB were top tier films. How do they rank on your "talking" scale today?
If such a scale were to exist, very high. People still argue regularly over which should have won Best Picture. These people are morons. We all know Jesse James is the only true answer.
They're not splitting the book into two films. One Hobbit film, one film spanning the 60 years between the end of the Hobbit and the beginning of FOTR
That's even worse.
- Sauron returns to Mordor
- Gollum ventures from the Misty Mountains in search of Bilbo and ends up in Mordor
- Aragorn and Arwen meet
- Aragorn and Galdalf meet
- A young Aragorn leaves Rivendell and travels south to fight for Rohan and Gondor under the alias of Thorongil
- The Dwarves, led by Balin, re-inhabit Moria
Did they decide on a release date for the Hobbit movie? I think I'll face the dilemma of whether to read the book or watch the movie first again.
I don't like the idea of two movies period. They could've just done justice to the book and made it one, ONE flick. And if they HAD to make two, at least split the movies as:
1 being the journey to Smaug
The other being the war.
But making a movie completely based on the appendices? Even Tolkien scholars know the Appendices were things that Tolkien wrote completely on the fly. What merit do they have as a movie?
I don't think there's any true REASON to have a second movie. What your describing, PD, are trite details that only LOTR nerds would care about in the first place. If there's no sort of exposition or basic conflict involved in the second, what point is there? A movie that is devoid of any sort of rising action makes no sense to me.The point is to be able to do a movie with the LOTR actors who aren't in the Hobbit like Vigo and stuff to bring in $$$.
Who brought up Tobey Maguire?
It's not the second highest grossing film of all time. ROTK grossed more chowWorldwide it did but I was talking about America since I dont have a fucking clue what movies people talk about or reference still in like sweeden or whatever. It still applies however, worldwide when going by pure ticket sales Star Wars doubled the likes of LOTR, TDK...etc.
inflation doesn't matterPure ticket sales Star Wars more than doubled TDK. That is ignoring $$. More than double the amount of people saw star wars in theaters. Simple as that. Nearly the same story for Jaws.
there's too many other factors involved
you can't adjust the numbers for inflation and call it day, there's a myriad of factors involved
i work in finance, i know what's up
shut the hell upSays the guy who thinks TDK's cultural impact is comparable to Star Wars in 1977. :lol
it was worse when pd gave unforgiven 6/10 or whatever and completely missed the point of the movie
Unforgiven is still a piece of shit tho
lol at using TDK's boxoffice to backup claims that it is this generation's Star Wars/Jaws/etc...
Is it the biggest movie since Titanic? Yes, but you can't use it's boxoffice to compare it to films like Star Wars. Inflation makes that impossible. When you adjust it to compare ticket sold vs ticket sold it is OBVIOUS that while TDK is huge it never had the impact on American culture and the popularity of movies that Solo, myself, and others said TDK has nowhere near come close to. The same applies to Lord of the Rings. Star Wars made 1.26 BILLION in todays dollars in America, E.T. made 1 billion, Jaws 900 million. Batman made 530 million, ROTK adjusted made 408 million.
Did we all come to the agreement that Lord of the Rings is not as popular today as Twilight? Because it's true.
TDK charted higher on the adjusted-for-inflation list than any other movie in the past 9 years.
Did we all come to the agreement that Lord of the Rings is not as popular today as Twilight? Because it's true.
Nobody will be using Lord of the Rings as a blueprint for anything, because fantasy movies are bad investments.Exactly. The fantasy genre never took off like studios thought it would. The genre is dead film wise unless it has hobbits or harry potter.
Lets wait for better fantasy flicks to show up. I'm very interested in seeing how Game of Thrones turns out on HBO (assuming the pilot is picked up).Like what exactly? There was tons of fantasy movies after LOTR and they all bombed and I cant think of any non-potter/lotr ones with any big budget studio ones in production. The fantasy genre did not take off in theaters outside of potter/lotr, it isn't something with potential. The genre is a dead-end unless its a well known franchise.
So, basically, you agree with us that Lord of the Rings is a blueprint for nothing because the genre itself is prone to commercial failures?
THANK YOU.
Weren't there tons of fantasy flicks that did well in previous decades? Labyrinth, Willow, Princess Bride, etc?
Probably neither. Ten years from now, we'll look back and talk about how much Speed Racer was ahead of its time.
Weren't there tons of fantasy flicks that did well in previous decades? Labyrinth, Willow, Princess Bride, etc?
And in the case of Willow that was a George Lucas flick (I believe he wrote it right?), and back in the 80's prior to the endless shitty Lucasfilm movies of the 90's & 00's Lucas was able to people in theaters. Well other than Howard the Duck.Weren't there tons of fantasy flicks that did well in previous decades? Labyrinth, Willow, Princess Bride, etc?
Labyrinth was a commercial failure. It's only remembered by children of the 80s thanks to advent of home video. The Princess Bride is more of a satire than a straight-up fantasy. Of the three you listed, Willow was the only one that performed well as a straight-up fantasy flick.
Hobits are the worst part of LOTR.
It's all about Aragon, Legolas....Grimlin? You know, the dwarf warrior. And Gandalf. The hobbits suck.