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Title: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on December 10, 2008, 03:20:24 PM
They're all better than Resistance 2. CoD5 isn't bad. The difficulty is so much lower than CoD4...it makes it so much less frustrating and tedious to repeat the same scripted elements.

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Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: demi on December 10, 2008, 03:21:15 PM
COD5 is not better than Resistance 2. They are about the same.

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CoD5 isn't bad. The difficulty is so much lower than CoD4...it makes it so much less frustrating and tedious to repeat the same scripted elements.

This is just wrong - but I have hair on my nuts and play Veteran - and tweezed said hair off from frustration
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on December 10, 2008, 03:22:16 PM
I haven't tried CoD5 on Vet yet, I'm only comparing hardened vs. hardened.

CoD5 is way better than resistance 2. I've yet to see instadeath enemies in CoD5. There are like 2 of those in r2.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: Tabasco on December 10, 2008, 03:52:21 PM
8 player coop!!  64 player multi!!  Clan battles!!
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 10, 2008, 03:55:23 PM
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They're all better than Resistance 2.

quite the accomplishment
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: Jansen on December 10, 2008, 04:28:48 PM
i got resistance 2 in the mail from gamefly last tuesday and sent it back the very next day unfinished. this says a lot about the game because i love first person shooters and even finished haze.

and i could see hating WaW if you only play SP. but the MP is fun and so is nazi zombies.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 10, 2008, 04:32:57 PM
Beating resistance 2 in quality is easier than beating a suspect in shackles.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: ManaByte on December 10, 2008, 04:34:35 PM
8 player coop!!  64 player multi!!  Clan battles!!

Do 64 people even play Resistance 2?

 :rofl
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 10, 2008, 04:40:22 PM
 :-[  i like resistance 2 so far  :-[
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: WrikaWrek on December 10, 2008, 05:32:39 PM
Finished COD5, meh to the meh.

Played a bit of Resistance 2, even worse than the 1st.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: duckman2000 on December 10, 2008, 08:14:11 PM
I don't think Gears 2 was all that much better, based on what I played of each game (a few hours of each), but I'm willing to believe that Gears 2 evolved a lot more during the rest of the game than Resistance 2 ever did. Barely-Insomniac-style wannabe Halo tripe.  :'(

Far Cry 2 is a very very very shitty shooter, yet quite the charmer.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: Bebpo on December 10, 2008, 08:21:39 PM
R2 campaign is slightly worse than CoD4 campaign, which is supposedly better than CoD5 campaign.  So R2 > CoD5 supposedly.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: Bebpo on December 10, 2008, 08:22:41 PM
At the end of the day, none of them are good though.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: WrikaWrek on December 10, 2008, 08:23:37 PM
COD4 rocks.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: Bebpo on December 10, 2008, 08:24:04 PM
COD4 rocks.

In MP.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: WrikaWrek on December 10, 2008, 08:25:54 PM
And SP.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: duckman2000 on December 10, 2008, 08:28:08 PM
At the end of the day, none of them are good though.

I thought you liked Resistance 2?
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on December 10, 2008, 08:28:47 PM
COD4 rocks in sp LOL
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: CHOW CHOW on December 10, 2008, 08:29:57 PM
It's crazy how much hype Resistance 2 got... 10,000 post threads at GAF with sfags circle-jerking each other off 24/7 for months on end.  I'm shocked to find out the game turned out to be nothing more than an average shooter, stunned!  Disgusting sfags..
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: Bebpo on December 10, 2008, 08:46:11 PM
At the end of the day, none of them are good though.

I thought you liked Resistance 2?

Not really.  It was decent.  Maybe 7/10.  But I only enjoyed a few sections and the rest were just doing the motions to see the
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COD4 rocks in sp LOL

It's alright.  Has some good parts and nice visuals.  Too many annoyances though with the waves of spawning and some of the levels were  :-\
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: pilonv1 on December 10, 2008, 09:26:29 PM
cod scripted single player fucking sucks. whether its 4 or 5
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: dammitmattt on December 10, 2008, 09:32:14 PM
It's crazy how much hype Resistance 2 got... 10,000 post threads at GAF with sfags circle-jerking each other off 24/7 for months on end.  I'm shocked to find out the game turned out to be nothing more than an average shooter, stunned!  Disgusting sfags..

You're on a roll today.  What can't you turn into fegs?
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: maxy on December 11, 2008, 02:44:56 AM
It's crazy how much hype Resistance 2 got... 10,000 post threads at GAF with sfags circle-jerking each other off 24/7 for months on end.  I'm shocked to find out the game turned out to be nothing more than an average shooter, stunned!  Disgusting sfags..

Its normal sfag behavior,hype every piece of exclusive shit,as long its exclusive and after that hype another.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: Bebpo on December 11, 2008, 04:29:25 AM
I'm glad I don't read official threads for any games before I beat them.  All the xbots, sfags, and nkids hype their games up the point where anything will be a disappointment.

Instead I just play the games and be naturally disappointed in them. ???
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: cool breeze on December 11, 2008, 12:21:28 PM
I'd say so
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: duckman2000 on December 11, 2008, 12:37:54 PM
I really liked the first Resistance, is 2 worse then 1?

Depends on why you liked the first one. I liked it because it felt like more of a classic PC style shooter, with Insomniac weaponry, not to mention an Insomniac approach to weapons availability. The second one is basically a Halo clone with some COD sprinkled on top, without the charm of Halo or the masterful event scripting of COD. To me, the second one was an incredible disappointment. I don't blame Insomniac for taking this path, but I can't think of many reasons for me to be excited for another Insomniac game after this.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: Bebpo on December 11, 2008, 03:54:35 PM
I really liked the first Resistance, is 2 worse then 1?

YES
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on January 02, 2009, 02:45:51 PM
Topic updated to reflect Turok, Baddlefield Bad Company, Dark Sector, and every other game except AITD being better than R2.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: archie4208 on January 02, 2009, 03:03:35 PM
What about Guitar Hero World Tour?  There is no way that game can be better than R2.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: Tabasco on January 02, 2009, 03:53:27 PM
I just finished the SF level in R2.  It's not so hot.  That guy asking for tips on GAF on how to make his game look better needs lots of help.

But is it worse than Haze?
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: Darunia on January 02, 2009, 04:08:04 PM
Finished the campaign yesterday. I really didn't like it to say the least.
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Sometimes I felt sorry for it, like when they tried to create atmosphere by letting songs play through the radio in the forest level. Game failed at most it tried to do.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on January 02, 2009, 04:37:31 PM
I just finished the SF level in R2.  It's not so hot.  That guy asking for tips on GAF on how to make his game look better needs lots of help.

But is it worse than Haze?

I can't believe this is what years and years of engine development would come up with. It's like building a house and then putting billions of dollars into solid gold knobs on cabinetry and shopping for furniture at ikea. The scale in the game is useless.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: Tabasco on January 02, 2009, 06:44:30 PM
I can't remember if it was you or Wollan (who suprisingly ripped the game in that thread), but I agree about your scale argument.  They teased the fuck out of that SF/Golden Gate Bridge shot.  Then you get to what is a supposed payoff . . . and they send you back underground.

I'm shocked a "third generation" PS3 game looks this bad.  The world feels sterile and rigid.  No PPEs and shitty physics.

I do like that you can customize controls.  I bought those Real Triggers off Amazon to make the DS3 into a someone competent controller, and like to use L2/R2 for aiming/shooting.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: cool breeze on January 02, 2009, 06:47:11 PM
Ratchet looked way better.  Even Resistance 1 looked better for having consistency throughout (I still think some of chimera ship parts of R2 did look nice, but most of it and the starting orange area just looked bad) 
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 02, 2009, 07:52:25 PM
Topic updated to reflect Turok, Baddlefield Bad Company, Dark Sector, and every other game except AITD being better than R2.

Hey now.  Don't lump Bad Company with those pieces of crap. BC was pretty darn entertaining and it probably has the best sound design out of any game that came out this year.  I usually don't give two shits about sound but I don't think I've ever played a game that nailed the sound of combat quite like BC did.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on January 02, 2009, 08:00:18 PM
I have to admit I'm playing at home on a shit 19" TV and I actually can't see the enemies so I'm getting so frustrated playing it. And those aren't crap! I like those games :(

edit: Tabasco, it was me. I've been ripping insom now for their last two games. They suck.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: demi on January 02, 2009, 08:01:18 PM
What are you talking about? SDTV is just fine. Who needs to spend money on a 1000 dollar HDTV? S-Video is just as good.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on January 02, 2009, 08:02:22 PM
oh, for the record, even private hoffman ripped R2. R2 is a complete failure that no one likes. except the media.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 02, 2009, 08:17:28 PM
Is Hoffman really Hans?  People seem so convinced that it's him but I'm not seeing it outside of his unwavering sony faggotry.  It just doesn't seem like they're the same dude.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: cool breeze on January 02, 2009, 08:26:45 PM
who is Hans?

and yeah, Resistance 2 is the Wii of video games; it lost all appeal to fans but gained critical praise.  wait, the wii lost critical praise and fans to gain the same people who got wet for furby.

btw, while I didn't enjoy either demo for Turok or Battlefield BC (to a larger extent since I'm a huge fan of BF1942, 2, and event Vietnam...2142 :piss2), I thought Dark Sector is actually a good game.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 02, 2009, 08:37:19 PM
Someone else made SDF.com.  Can't remember who offhand but I know it wasn't Hans.

And Hans last legitimate GAF alt account was under the name Snah, so you might remember him from that name swaggaz.  If not, the guy lives here - http://opa-ages.com/forums/index.php (http://opa-ages.com/forums/index.php)
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on January 02, 2009, 08:38:29 PM
SDF.com was Razoric, who is an xbot.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: demi on January 02, 2009, 08:55:55 PM
GAF talk making me nervous
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: cool breeze on January 03, 2009, 11:28:34 PM
Medal of Honor Heroes 2 PSP > Resistance 2
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: Tabasco on January 05, 2009, 10:37:40 PM
I finished it up today, and I actually think it was okay.  What was frustrating early on was that they designed levels and enemies that would lend themselves to run and gun, but compensated for shit AI by giving them (the enemy AI at least) high accuracy and attack points.  So it was a slow, plodding slogfest on anything but easy.

So I casualed it up and had a good time.  For all the game lacks in visuals, I do appreciate their use of AF.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on January 05, 2009, 10:39:22 PM
the image quality took a hit overall vs. r1 though. they used some other type of AA. I don't think it was quincunx but maybe.

it definitely improves. louisiana is a good level.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: Tabasco on January 06, 2009, 02:16:55 AM
I don't want to overstate things.  I gave it a 6 on the Gamefly ranking thing.  But it does get fun in the later levels.  Just like the first Resistance.  I have no idea why Insom threw us down narrow hallways the first few levels, only to finally open up the game later on.

This junk about having to play the PSP game to get the story is distinguished mentally-challenged.  The jumped ahead 2 years and never explained anything, and to get that info, you gotta play Retribution.  Or read wikipedia.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: dark1x on January 06, 2009, 03:32:08 PM
It's crazy how much hype Resistance 2 got... 10,000 post threads at GAF with sfags circle-jerking each other off 24/7 for months on end.  I'm shocked to find out the game turned out to be nothing more than an average shooter, stunned!  Disgusting sfags..
It has nothing to do with fandom so much as logical expectation.  The original game was pretty decent.  Not one of the best FPS around or anything, but interesting enough to keep many people interested through the end.  I think many people assumed that it suffered a bit from being a launch title and were excited to see what Insomniac would come up with in a sequel.  To me, it seemed only logical that Resistance 2 would be a solid single player experience.  I really expected them to improve upon the shortcomings of the first game while introducing plenty of new and interesting scenarios to fight through.  In general, Insomnic have been able to improve upon each of their games with their sequels and I don't think anyone really suspected that to change with Resistance 2.

I don't think the game really received all that much hype either (certainly nowhere near as much as many other games released this past fall), but surely you can understand WHY some people might be excited.

I felt that the game was a huge disappointment myself.  It simply didn't come together and the overall single player experience was one of the least interesting I've played in the genre as of late.  So many terrible design decisions.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: dark1x on January 07, 2009, 08:50:32 AM
Does R2 have invisible waves that you must push through?

If not then it cannot be worse then any COD by default.
No, not really.  It has huge waves at times, but they are finite.  I'd place R2 about on par with most of the CoD games, but I didn't really care for any of them.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: Ninja on January 07, 2009, 09:00:38 AM
CoD4's Capmaign > Resistance 2 imo. Everything in Resistance 2 felt rushed and uninspired to me. The characters in Cod4 were pretty interesting by average FPS standards but the squad in R2 was completely devoid of characterisation except for that Capelli guy who I didn't like at all. They gave Hale a voice only to have him waste by not saying anything of value, all he does is bark generic orders. After keeping him silent in the original if felt incongruous to hear him talk now. 

One of the guys in your squad in R2 looks so much like Hale that a few times I looked at him and just though "wtf, who am I right now?" The answer of course is that I am a guy wasting time on a shitty fps.

The storyline is boring and hiding the interesting bits in those intel documents is pretty awful design. Not to mention how strange it feels to see how Insomniac threw away every unique aspect of resistance and replaced it with whatever is in right now. I think the key problem with this game is that Insomniac didn't have enough time to think it through and experiment and prototype different features. It could have been great but their overly aggressive release schedule is smothering their games. Making games for ps3 takes a longer time than making ps2 games and they need to revitalise their approach to reflect that.


COD4 was super-polished all the way through and it showed. It was a shorter campaign but it was tighter.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 07, 2009, 09:53:04 AM
COD4 obviously has its problems, and I really really hate them. But at least I felt compelled to beat that game. Resistance 2 is an absolute snore (and Sony deleted my save so).

And yea, the squadmates/characters in Resistance 2 make Halo 3's dialogue look amazing.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: dammitmattt on January 07, 2009, 10:34:32 AM
So Resistance 2 is the last game on my Gamefly queue, right under the latest Scene It achievement romp.  Are you saying that it's so bad, that it's not even worth a few hours of my time and a portion of my monthly Gamefly subscription?
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 07, 2009, 10:40:10 AM
The SP is just boring, I don't know why you'd spend your time on it. The multi is fun, I dig COD4+Halo3.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: dammitmattt on January 07, 2009, 10:47:35 AM
The SP is just boring, I don't know why you'd spend your time on it. The multi is fun, I dig COD4+Halo3.

Is the versus worth your time or just co-op?
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 07, 2009, 11:04:14 AM
I'm talking about versus, the co op sucks too. At least in the beta, people say it's somehow better in the final game but I really doubt it.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: duckman2000 on January 07, 2009, 02:17:54 PM
What I played of the game wasn't bad. Had it come from a new studio, I'd say it was a great first effort. Problem being that this isn't a game from a new studio, but the sequel to a game from a studio that has been around for some time. I thought Resistance was a good game suffering a bit from Insomniac carefully stepping into the genre, and that the sequel was going to be quite simply great. There's no excuse for it to not be great, really. What I played was a blend of COD and Halo, with only a little bit of Insomniac mixed in, and I expected a hell of a lot more from this company at this point. Average doesn't cut it.

I guess MP and co-op might be good by some standards, but it's not interesting enough for me to move away from COD4. And it didn't help that I was in the KZ2 MP beta, either. A round of Killzone 2 MP provided a better co-op experience than anything I found in R2.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 07, 2009, 02:21:04 PM
I don't know what it means to mix in 'a little bit of Insomniac.' Every single Insomniac game is generic, it's not like they're pushing the limits of gaming outside of the Resistance series. The most notable thing about the company is that they have a sense of humor, but their other games don't exactly drip with that either.

I love the Ratchet series but it's not like they're must-play for those who don't already dig them.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: duckman2000 on January 07, 2009, 02:24:39 PM
I don't know what it means to mix in 'a little bit of Insomniac.' Every single Insomniac game is generic, it's not like they're pushing the limits of gaming outside of the Resistance series. The most notable thing about the company is that they have a sense of humor, but their other games don't exactly drip with that either.

I love the Ratchet series but it's not like they're must-play for those who don't already dig them.

Weaponry, and monsters that are interesting to look at. I'd rather fight goofy but entertaining enemies from former Insomniac games than fighting the results of shitty efforts at making clowny characters look dead serious. The weapons were somewhat disappointing in R1 as they favored smarts over brutality, but at least there was a bunch of them. Removing the weapon wheel is just another butt-shot straight into drab standards.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: dammitmattt on January 07, 2009, 02:27:09 PM
I don't know what it means to mix in 'a little bit of Insomniac.' Every single Insomniac game is generic, it's not like they're pushing the limits of gaming outside of the Resistance series. The most notable thing about the company is that they have a sense of humor, but their other games don't exactly drip with that either.

I love the Ratchet series but it's not like they're must-play for those who don't already dig them.

You see, I fucking love the Ratchet series and think that it is a must-play.  It's such a fun combination of a shooter and platformer with enough RPG elements thrown in to keep me going.  The weapons are fun, tt controls perfectly (assuming that you change to FPS controls), and it's at least charming (if not actually that funny).  Ratchet and Clank Future is still my favorite PS3 game because I just had so much damn fun playing through it a few times, much more so than I did with Uncharted.

It's just amazing that Resistance comes from the same studio.  They are absolutely nothing alike.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: duckman2000 on January 07, 2009, 02:30:35 PM
My reasoning when people were questioning the sense of being interested in Resistance was that it was at the very least guaranteed to be entertaining. Because that's what Insomniac does, entertaining games with explosive combat, great weapons that are fun to use, and awesome looking/moving monsters to use them against. Of course, Resistance was nothing like that, and Resistance 2 is even further detached from it. It's not a great bloody serious FPS, nor is it an entertaining monster killfest of the Ratchet/Deadlocked style.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 07, 2009, 02:35:12 PM
I don't know what it means to mix in 'a little bit of Insomniac.' Every single Insomniac game is generic, it's not like they're pushing the limits of gaming outside of the Resistance series. The most notable thing about the company is that they have a sense of humor, but their other games don't exactly drip with that either.

I love the Ratchet series but it's not like they're must-play for those who don't already dig them.

Weaponry, and monsters that are interesting to look at. I'd rather fight goofy but entertaining enemies from former Insomniac games than fighting the results of shitty efforts at making clowny characters look dead serious. The weapons were somewhat disappointing in R1 as they favored smarts over brutality, but at least there was a bunch of them. Removing the weapon wheel is just another butt-shot straight into drab standards.


Nailed me to the wall.

Although I think you could see the beginnings of the Resistance yawnfest arsenal in Ratchet UYA


Ratchet 1 and 2 are the only really unique games in the Ratchet series. UYA was still fun but it was already casting aside its charm and uniqueness, Deadlocked was obviously a travesty, and Future took more steps back than forward. Haven't played the PSP games. Oh and QFB sucked my nads.
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: dammitmattt on January 08, 2009, 02:26:14 PM
It's crazy how much hype Resistance 2 got... 10,000 post threads at GAF with sfags circle-jerking each other off 24/7 for months on end. 
The "official" thread was created by a professional marketing company called Global Studio who were hired by Sony (and GAF sanctioned) do to do some guerrilla marketing sheepishly disguised as an authentic thread on GAF.

Their site: http://www.globalstudio.com/ (http://www.globalstudio.com/)
http://www.globalstudio.com/ps3/ (http://www.globalstudio.com/ps3/)

I don't know if this story is true or not, but some of the GAF mods, including the head honcho, are such Sfags!
Title: Re: What do Gears 2, Call of Duty 5, and Far Cry 2 have in common?
Post by: dammitmattt on January 08, 2009, 02:42:02 PM
I don't know if this story is true or notThe story is true. BruceLeeRoy (creator of the R2 and MGS4 "official" threads among others) was outed in a thread which resulted in him admitting that he works for Global Studio. The day after that thread he moved all the hosted images from Global Studio's servers onto www.sierraautocare.com.

But he might just be a talented fanboy that happens to work for Global Studio, right?  Or was it confirmed that they were bankrolled by Sony?  Either way, I fucking hate those OPs in the official threads.  The MGS4 thread was absolutely ridiculous.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: duckman2000 on January 08, 2009, 02:49:21 PM
You guys are way too loose with your accusations. A lot of people apply their skills to their hobbies, or interests. This just reeks of untalented slackers bitching at effort and result. And if you honestly believe that Sony paid a no name "studio" to make official threads, let alone allowed for it to be uncovered by wanky fanboys, then you've seriously lost all touch with reality.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: dammitmattt on January 08, 2009, 03:03:34 PM
You guys are way too loose with your accusations. A lot of people apply their skills to their hobbies, or interests. This just reeks of untalented slackers bitching at effort and result. And if you honestly believe that Sony paid a no name "studio" to make official threads, let alone allowed for it to be uncovered by wanky fanboys, then you've seriously lost all touch with reality.

I was the skeptical one, but that doesn't change the undeniable fact that those official threads are ridiculously gay.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 08, 2009, 03:05:00 PM
R2 isn't really worse than COD5, is it? Really?
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on January 08, 2009, 03:06:06 PM
Everyone hates cod5 more than I hate cod5
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: dammitmattt on January 08, 2009, 03:08:22 PM
It's known that this type of marketing on GAF has been going on for quite some time. The BruceLeeRoy threads have just been the most transparent in recent times hence why he was so easily discovered.

However, the "official thread" stuff was a recent phenomena, mostly for a few key PS3 games.  It's not a shock that the fearless Sfag leader was fooled, though.

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Effort is valued whether its for pay or not and these "official" threads (which were the combined efforts of several highly talented people) were fantastic. No one is devaluing them so quit your whining.

What was fantastic about them?  It was basically a bloated, glorified press release + instruction manual with a bunch of developer-made art tied together by someone with some Photoshop skills.  I'm honestly not sure what's so impressive about just compiling a bunch of previously known information and links.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: cool breeze on January 08, 2009, 03:10:25 PM
R2 isn't really worse than COD5, is it? Really?

if CoD5 has 5.1, I'll rent it and find out.  I think Resistance 2 was better than CoD4 single player, but I really hated the CoD4 single player (exception being the epilogue bit)
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: cool breeze on January 08, 2009, 06:19:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nncV9hOyZQ

Resistance PSP >>>> Resistance 2
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: Tabasco on January 08, 2009, 09:08:44 PM
So apparently you can connect your PSP to your PS3, then use your DS3 to control the PSP, if you also have cables running from your PSP to your TV. 

Somehow this is not absolutely distinguished mentally-challenged to Sony fans >:(
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: rubber feathers on January 09, 2009, 09:35:28 AM
So apparently you can connect your PSP to your PS3, then use your DS3 to control the PSP, if you also have cables running from your PSP to your TV. 

Somehow this is not absolutely distinguished mentally-challenged to Sony fans >:(
Well, what's the alternative?  Not have that option, and be forced to suffer with the PSP's single shitty nub?  I mean, it's not hurting anyone who doesn't have a PS3, and it gives people who do a far better experience.  What would you suggest they do otherwise?

edit: On a different subject, I'm getting R2 from Gamefly today.  I hope all the hatred towards this game has been exaggerated, I really do.  :-\
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: dark1x on January 09, 2009, 09:48:12 AM
COD4 obviously has its problems, and I really really hate them. But at least I felt compelled to beat that game. Resistance 2 is an absolute snore (and Sony deleted my save so).

And yea, the squadmates/characters in Resistance 2 make Halo 3's dialogue look amazing.
Yep, I think "snore" is the best way to define Resistance 2.  I just can't bring myself to complete the game.  It's simply not fun to play.  They made so many negative changes to the formula that end up nearly ruining the experience.  I still don't understand why they thought it was a good idea to bounce the player around the world without context.  I mean, they managed to introduce data streaming in order to remove loading screens, yet they never even use that to build coherent worlds.  I really never enjoyed any of the scenarios either.  The gunplay doesn't feel satisfying in the least.  Though I found CoD4 to be dull as well, at least it FELT really good to play.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 09, 2009, 01:42:02 PM
I'm trading this in for my measly $24. Does GameStop still give you more if you get store credit?

Fuck this game, I will never play the single player again and no one ever wants to play multiplayer. Even though I like that aspect, I hate playing alone and I'd probably rather play Halo 3, CoD4, L4D, or even Gears 2 instead. So fuck it, I give in.

I'm gonna put it towards KZ2 and Halo Wars preorders.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on January 09, 2009, 03:55:22 PM
already traded mine in for 25 :professor
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 09, 2009, 09:31:38 PM
It went down to $22 from $24 :gloomy
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: rubber feathers on January 09, 2009, 10:05:08 PM
You could always sell it for $40 on eBay.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: cool breeze on January 16, 2009, 09:45:10 PM
Demo for Resistance PSP (need CFW to run it): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ICPX7HKM

Much better than Resistance 2
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: duckman2000 on January 16, 2009, 09:52:30 PM
No surprise there. Is it a prequel to R2?
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: cool breeze on January 16, 2009, 10:12:49 PM
I skipped all the cutscenes, but I think it is.  It's actually fun to play, so it has a lot over R2 already.

I also tried the Loco Roco 2 demo and it was pretty fun, but it makes me want to get a PSP 300 because the blurring was horrible.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: chespace on January 16, 2009, 10:28:22 PM
In this thread we troll R2?  :o

I should open my copy and play it.

Many of my Rebel FM luminary friends say it eats a dick.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: rubber feathers on January 17, 2009, 12:11:45 AM
Oh yeah, I got Resistance 2 from Gamefly on Monday.  I stopped at the beginning of the second Iceland level (#6 of 7 levels?).  Insomniac, what the hell happened to you?  R2 was one of the reasons I re-purchased a PS3, since R:FOM was, in my opinion, rad.  I thought the hate was overblown since the first two levels were pretty good, then it hit the ocean of mediocrity.

I mean, what absolutely blew me away was that they had the setting of America to work with, and they completely blew it.  In San Francisco, you're in underground tunnels 97% of the time, then you reemerge to the skyline of SF with a Chimeran armada towering above it (which is pretty cool), and then you fight a little bit and go back into the tunnels.  Along with that, you're in a Chimeran battleship, a forest in California, Utah, Idaho, Iceland twice, Chicago, and apparently Louisiana and Mexico.  They're all decent settings, but when you're underground most of the time in SF, in caves a lot of the time in Idaho, that leaves Chicago as a place that actually seems distinctly American.  And there's no real landmarks.  Doesn't help that there's a lot of really stupid moments in that level, too.

Where's Washington DC?  Where's New York City and the Statue of Liberty?  Where are the places, the landmarks, the setpieces that makes you think "oh shit, our America has gone to hell"?  No one gives a flying fuck about Utah, or some forest in California, and Iceland.  Where are the civilians?  They can't be all gone, especially since there's the radio guy and his sighting of said civilians.  America in R2 seems like yet another generic video game world.  It shouldn't be like that.

(and did I mention you constantly go from locale to locale with little explanation?  russian dude: "tower is in ____!!"  Then you're in ____.  A narrator isn't the answer; cohesive dialog is.)

And there's game length.  I completed the first five (six if you count the battleship) levels in about four hours.  And there were 2-3 levels to go.  It took me 10-12 hours to complete Resistance 1.  Wtf.

And there's the 2-weapon system.  They stripped away one of the more defining features of the first game and replaced it with something that's in every other FPS.  Their reasoning was "well, we wanted people to use more unique weapons and not the bullseye/assault rifle all the time.  Thing is, you were given a bullseye/rifle all the time, and the "unique" weapons you were given – the standard shotgun, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle, and Halo 3 battle rifle the Marksman weren't really unique.  The only weapons that I thought were actually unique were the Auger (which was in RFOM), the revolver with remote detonation bullets (if only because you could use it as a long-range C4), and the splicer.  And the splicer's seemingly only real purpose is to remove limbs from Grims, since it's conveniently laying on the ground before every Grim encounter.

What's worse about the 2-weapon system is that sometimes you run out of ammo completely, and you're fucked.  At least in RFOM if you ran out of ammo in both your Bullseye and assault rifle, you could always go batshit insane with your rocket launcher, shotgun, and several other far more unique weapons.

Oh, and Hale is suddenly a chatterbox.  He's Mr Silent in the first game, yet when you pick up from the ending of RFOM, he's picked up from the snow into the helicopter and he's verbally protesting and shit.  Did the injection they give him wake up his vocal chords?

There a bunch of other little problems with the single player that aren't worth the typing.  I have played the multiplayer a bit, however, and it's better than the beta.  It's not my bag, though.  I'd rather play, well, Call of Duty 4. :/

edit: holy shit this is long.  tl;dr: Resistance 2 is a huge disappointment, especially to one of the few people who liked the original Resistance's single player.
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: y2kev on January 17, 2009, 12:25:41 AM
Oh yeah, I got Resistance 2 from Gamefly on Monday.  I stopped at the beginning of the second Iceland level (#6 of 7 levels?).  Insomniac, what the hell happened to you?  R2 was one of the reasons I re-purchased a PS3, since R:FOM was, in my opinion, rad.  I thought the hate was overblown since the first two levels were pretty good, then it hit the ocean of mediocrity.

I mean, what absolutely blew me away was that they had the setting of America to work with, and they completely blew it.  In San Francisco, you're in underground tunnels 97% of the time, then you reemerge to the skyline of SF with a Chimeran armada towering above it (which is pretty cool), and then you fight a little bit and go back into the tunnels.  Along with that, you're in a Chimeran battleship, a forest in California, Utah, Idaho, Iceland twice, Chicago, and apparently Louisiana and Mexico.  They're all decent settings, but when you're underground most of the time in SF, in caves a lot of the time in Idaho, that leaves Chicago as a place that actually seems distinctly American.  And there's no real landmarks.  Doesn't help that there's a lot of really stupid moments in that level, too.

Where's Washington DC?  Where's New York City and the Statue of Liberty?  Where are the places, the landmarks, the setpieces that makes you think "oh shit, our America has gone to hell"?  No one gives a flying fuck about Utah, or some forest in California, and Iceland.  Where are the civilians?  They can't be all gone, especially since there's the radio guy and his sighting of said civilians.  America in R2 seems like yet another generic video game world.  It shouldn't be like that.

(and did I mention you constantly go from locale to locale with little explanation?  russian dude: "tower is in ____!!"  Then you're in ____.  A narrator isn't the answer; cohesive dialog is.)

And there's game length.  I completed the first five (six if you count the battleship) levels in about four hours.  And there were 2-3 levels to go.  It took me 10-12 hours to complete Resistance 1.  Wtf.

And there's the 2-weapon system.  They stripped away one of the more defining features of the first game and replaced it with something that's in every other FPS.  Their reasoning was "well, we wanted people to use more unique weapons and not the bullseye/assault rifle all the time.  Thing is, you were given a bullseye/rifle all the time, and the "unique" weapons you were given – the standard shotgun, rocket launcher, and sniper rifle, and Halo 3 battle rifle the Marksman weren't really unique.  The only weapons that I thought were actually unique were the Auger (which was in RFOM), the revolver with remote detonation bullets (if only because you could use it as a long-range C4), and the splicer.  And the splicer's seemingly only real purpose is to remove limbs from Grims, since it's conveniently laying on the ground before every Grim encounter.

What's worse about the 2-weapon system is that sometimes you run out of ammo completely, and you're fucked.  At least in RFOM if you ran out of ammo in both your Bullseye and assault rifle, you could always go batshit insane with your rocket launcher, shotgun, and several other far more unique weapons.

Oh, and Hale is suddenly a chatterbox.  He's Mr Silent in the first game, yet when you pick up from the ending of RFOM, he's picked up from the snow into the helicopter and he's verbally protesting and shit.  Did the injection they give him wake up his vocal chords?

There a bunch of other little problems with the single player that aren't worth the typing.  I have played the multiplayer a bit, however, and it's better than the beta.  It's not my bag, though. 

yeeeeeep

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I'd rather play, well, Call of Duty 4. :/


noooooooope
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: rubber feathers on January 17, 2009, 12:53:07 AM
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I'd rather play, well, Call of Duty 4. :/


noooooooope
I'm talking about multiplayer!  And even if I wasn't, CoD4's infinite middle-eastern armies > R2's three-titans-in-a-courtyard-filled-with-exploding-cars. (and you have no ammo when facing said titans, so you have to rely on your lame teammates to take them down)

edit: thanks jinfash.  I'm duckracer on gaf so you can either call me that or feathers, lol
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2009, 09:39:55 AM
Pretty much hit every point in that post. A lot of people ignore the ammo issue. It's especially bad when you hit a checkpoint with a bad ammo situation.

I don't know why they made all the guns hold so little ammo when maxed out. How come I feel more constricted in this game than in L4D? Or even RE4?
Title: Re: What does every game released in 2008 except R2 have in common?
Post by: duckman2000 on January 17, 2009, 07:54:25 PM
In this thread we troll R2?  :o

I should open my copy and play it.

Many of my Rebel FM luminary friends say it eats a dick.

I don't think it's objectively a bad game. It's got decent shooting action and some more or less alright scenarios. The problem is that they pretty much sold out for the benefit of critics, presumably dying to create a big hit using lots of big numbers designed to theoretically impress as opposed to practically satisfy. What I played of the SP was a Quake 4 caliber shooter, built to Halo 3 and COD4 specifications, with very little of whatever was good about previous Insomniac games left in it. Apparently, critics liked it.

The MP is apparently good, but the beta was pretty weak compared to Sony's other beta. Resistance was fun online because it featured lots of less-than-standard weapons, and because it was atypically fast paced for a console shooter. Resistance 2 doesn't have either of those to fall back on.

I read all of that, and I'm glad I talked most of my friends out of buying it.

Have you played it?