The Islamist group, which won a 2006 parliamentary election but was shunned by Western powers over its refusal to renounce violence and recognize Israel, said all of its security compounds in the Gaza Strip were destroyed or seriously damaged.
Israel, god. Go fuck off already.
Is the JEW LOBBY really so big in this country that politicians continue to feed this beast? I'm not suggesting either side is innocent, but the US' support is decidedly behind Israel and it isn't like the Jews are more than like 1.8% of this country. We'd be better off just fucking off.And Jewish Americans are not as one-sided as people think. Evangelicals are probably more one sided on the issue than Jews.
I'm sure they had very valid reasons, just like I had very valid reasons to sit on the roof of my house and fire paintballs at the windshields of passing cars when I was a teenager.
Israel's only fault is that they are a new nation in the modern world. 100-200 years ago, what they are doing in the name of expansionism wouldn't have even drawn any attention.
They were plopped down in some god awful part of the world and created a beautiful oasis. A functioning, democratic society in an area that was mostly thugs, gypsies and beggars. Palestinians should assimilate or die.
In the grand scheme of the human race and a global society, the Palestinians are the barbarians who are holding this area (and thus the world) back.
Israel's only fault is that they are a new nation in the modern world. 100-200 years ago, what they are doing in the name of expansionism wouldn't have even drawn any attention.
They were plopped down in some god awful part of the world and created a beautiful oasis. A functioning, democratic society in an area that was mostly thugs, gypsies and beggars. Palestinians should assimilate or die.
In the grand scheme of the human race and a global society, the Palestinians are the barbarians who are holding this area (and thus the world) back.
To sit here and poo poo a government that is trying to protect it's citizens when the nation where your ass is currently residing has done far worse, is pretty hypocritical.
Israel's only fault is that they are a new nation in the modern world. 100-200 years ago, what they are doing in the name of expansionism wouldn't have even drawn any attention.The US Goverment should just give a state to the Jews (I'm think somewhere in the south), then we'll see how normal Americans react.
They were plopped down in some god awful part of the world and created a beautiful oasis. A functioning, democratic society in an area that was mostly thugs, gypsies and beggars. Palestinians should assimilate or die.
In the grand scheme of the human race and a global society, the Palestinians are the barbarians who are holding this area (and thus the world) back.
They already have Florida.
The US Goverment should just give a state to the Jews (I'm think somewhere in the south), then we'll see how normal Americans react.
Any day now the UN is going to give a decent amount of land to the Nation of Islam as slavery reparations
any day now
Israel's only fault is that they are a new nation in the modern world. 100-200 years ago, what they are doing in the name of expansionism wouldn't have even drawn any attention.
They were plopped down in some god awful part of the world and created a beautiful oasis. A functioning, democratic society in an area that was mostly thugs, gypsies and beggars. Palestinians should assimilate or die.
In the grand scheme of the human race and a global society, the Palestinians are the barbarians who are holding this area (and thus the world) back.
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2007
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Israelis | Of which | Of which
dead | civilians | minors
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13 | 7 | ?
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Palestinians| Of which | Of which
dead | civilians | minors
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373 | 35% | 53
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2006
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Israelis | Of which | Of which
dead | civilians | minors
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24 | 17 | 1
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Palestinians| Of which | Of which
dead | civilians | minors
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660 | 322 | 141Israel's only fault is that they are a new nation in the modern world. 100-200 years ago, what they are doing in the name of expansionism wouldn't have even drawn any attention.
They were plopped down in some god awful part of the world and created a beautiful oasis. A functioning, democratic society in an area that was mostly thugs, gypsies and beggars. Palestinians should assimilate or die.
In the grand scheme of the human race and a global society, the Palestinians are the barbarians who are holding this area (and thus the world) back.
The problem with these discussions is that there is definitely an undercurrent of antisemitism, racism or cultural ignorance - even in this very thread. There's no logical or rational way to say one side is right or wrong. I've learned that saying Group A is worse than Group B because of these statistics, variables, anecdotes, etc. is just stupid. Both sides are wrong.
(http://static.flickr.com/54/192449432_f64747f16e_o.jpg)
Am I crazy or did she misspell 'with'
Is the JEW LOBBY really so big in this country that politicians continue to feed this beast? I'm not suggesting either side is innocent, but the US' support is decidedly behind Israel and it isn't like the Jews are more than like 10% of this country. We'd be better off just fucking off.
The problem with these discussions is that there is definitely an undercurrent of antisemitism, racism or cultural ignorance - even in this very thread. There's no logical or rational way to say one side is right or wrong. I've learned that saying Group A is worse than Group B because of these statistics, variables, anecdotes, etc. is just stupid. Both sides are wrong.
Antisemitism? Aside from Curseofthegod's first post I don't see anything here that can be said to have antisemitic undertones. Anti-person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation, definitely, but they are not the same things.
Jews runs Hollywood Video stores. I swear it's true.
It's a disproportionate retaliation. But with Israel's superior military technology, it's always going to be disproportionate.
You bring up an interesting point. So if Israel responded by lobbing equally ancient weapons and rockets at Gaza, would it be okay?
Israeli female soldiers in bikinis with firearms :droolPM, please.
Do Israeli girls shave?
The problem with these discussions is that there is definitely an undercurrent of antisemitism, racism or cultural ignorance - even in this very thread. There's no logical or rational way to say one side is right or wrong. I've learned that saying Group A is worse than Group B because of these statistics, variables, anecdotes, etc. is just stupid. Both sides are wrong.
Antisemitism? Aside from Curseofthegod's first post I don't see anything here that can be said to have antisemitic undertones. Anti-person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation, definitely, but they are not the same things.
Ignoring a post in the very thread we're discussing, it's totally free from antisemitic undertones! Oh c'mon.
I wish all wars were like WW2.That was a real war for only the manliest of manly men.SMH
I don't consider myself antisemitic, but I am definitely anti-person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation.
Besides, I am probably the most semitic person here.
"Hot Palestinian Girls" gives some interesting google image results
Yeah, safe search is forced my Uni's network so all the ones I'm getting are along these line:
(http://misskelly.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/31/palestinian_girls_scud_2.jpg)
:lol :-\
I don't consider myself antisemitic, but I am definitely anti-person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation.
Besides, I am probably the most semitic person here.
Yeah, I didn't mean to implicitly label you as antisemitic, but your comment was really the only thing I could find in the thread. Apologies if I offended you.
Fuck Israel. Seriously. Most disgusting people on the planet.
Fuck Israel. Seriously. Most disgusting people on the planet.
Really, TVC. Are you kidding me?
My point was that antisemitism, racism and cultural ignorance exists any time people discuss the conflict and this thread is no exception. By the way, being racist and culturally ignorant is not exclusive to antisemites. It can exist on the other side. See ToxicAdam - IN THIS VERY THREAD, NO LESS! - for the other example. You cannot discuss the Israeli/Palestinian conflict without such an undercurrent existing, regardless if you are not the one distributing such sentiments. It's just life. That's why these discussions are usually so stupid when people try to pick sides. Nobody wins.
Except those hot, hot Israeli female soldiers.
Fuck Israel. Seriously. They have some of the most disgusting people on the planet.
Fuck Israel. Seriously. people who believe in the development and protection of a Jewish nation are the most disgusting people on the planet.
Fuck Israel. Seriously. Most disgusting people on the planet.
Really, TVC. Are you kidding me?
My point was that antisemitism, racism and cultural ignorance exists any time people discuss the conflict and this thread is no exception. By the way, being racist and culturally ignorant is not exclusive to antisemites. It can exist on the other side. See ToxicAdam - IN THIS VERY THREAD, NO LESS! - for the other example. You cannot discuss the Israeli/Palestinian conflict without such an undercurrent existing, regardless if you are not the one distributing such sentiments. It's just life. That's why these discussions are usually so stupid when people try to pick sides. Nobody wins.
Except those hot, hot Israeli female soldiers.
I've got no problem with the Israeli support - the country is a strategic necessity in the region for a good number of reasons. I just wish our country was more proactive in peace talks and not just blindly supporting Israel with no misgivings.
Why bother changing your original post when it probably most accurately reflected how you truly felt, CurseoftheGods?
Willco's right. It's perfectly possible for someone to weigh in on the issue and even strongly criticize one or both sides in a manner free of bigotry, but it's nigh on impossible to have a multiparty discussion on the net (or meatspace for that matter) without the problem cropping up. Kind of a Godwin's Law (in the original "probability approaches one" sense) situation.
TVC: When Bush took office he deliberately withdrew the US from an active role in the peace process, because he thought Clinton's highly visible efforts had diluted American prestige, har har har cry.
Do you have a link on this? I was largely not publicly aware during the beginning of the Bush administration due to hardcore personal reasons. I hate saying "link plz" but I do not doubt you and I want to be read up.
President Bush echoed this view: "We're gong to correct the imbalances of the previous administration on the Mideast conflict. We're going to tilt it back toward Israel. And we're going to be consistent
"Clinton overreached, and it all fell apart. That's why we're in trouble," Bush said. "If the two sides don't want peace, there's no way we can force them.
Then the President halted. "Anybody here ever met [Ariel] Sharon?
After a moment, Powell sort of raised his hand. Yes, he had.
"I'm not going to go by past reputations when it comes to Sharon," Bush said. "I'm going to take him at face value. We'll work out a relationship based on how things go."
He'd met Sharon briefly, Bush said, when they had flown over Israel in a helicopter on a visit in December 1998. "Just saw him that one time. We flew over the Palestinian camps," Bush said sourly. "Looked real bad down there. I don't see much we can do over there at this point. I think it's time to pull out of that situation."
And that was it, according to O'Neill and several other people in the room. The Arab-Israeli conflict was a mess, and the United States would disengage. The combatants would have to work it out on their own.
Powell said such a move might be hasty. He remarked on the violence in the West Bank and Gaza and on its roots. He stressed that a pullback by the United States would unleash Sharon and the Israeli army. "The consequences of that could be dire," he said, "especially for the Palestinians."
Bush shrugged. "Maybe that's the best way to get things back in balance."
Powell looked startled.
"Sometimes a show of strength by one side can really clarify things," Bush said.
Why bother changing your original post when it probably most accurately reflected how you truly felt, CurseoftheGods?
Why bother changing your original post when it probably most accurately reflected how you truly felt, CurseoftheGods?
Uh I didn't read his post as a diss on Jews, but on the actions of the Israeli government and military and its staunch defenders
But I guess he said that already
Yes, because the first thing that comes to people's minds when making a blanket statement about a people where I describe them as disgusting is that I'm obviously referring to the government and/or state policy.
I haven't seen W., but I'd be really interested to see how Bush created this know-it-all attitude when it comes to foreign policy. Or domestic policy. Or really any policy.
Bush thinks that the US is uniquely, intrinsically moral and good. He also thinks that everyone else also basically realizes this, so all of America's enemies must be straight up evil.
QuoteBush thinks that the US is uniquely, intrinsically moral and good. He also thinks that everyone else also basically realizes this, so all of America's enemies must be straight up evil.
Isn't this also the consensus from many evangelical and pentecostal christians in the US?
I will have to pick it up from Borders this weekend. I'm not so much intrigued as a damn dirty liberal outraged on how he destroyed our world image and made a mess of our foreign affairs, but rather interested on why he chose to do so.
I hope Israel and it's miscreants keep retaliating so Hamas can wipe them off the map. Kill every man and assimilate the women and children. Enough is enough.
I hope Hamas and it's miscreants keep retaliating so Isreal can wipe them off the map. Kill every man and assimilate the women and children. Enough is enough
I hope Hamas and it's miscreants keep retaliating so Isreal can wipe them off the map. Kill every man and assimilate the women and children. Enough is enough.
Yes, because the first thing that comes to people's minds when making a blanket statement about a people where I describe them as disgusting is that I'm obviously referring to the government and/or state policy.
Fuck China. Seriously. Most disgusting people on the planet.spoiler (click to show/hide)By that I mean the poor human rights record of their government and not the people themselves. Which I will now tell you after the fact, as so I do not get labeled as a racist. You obviously didn't get my subtle political criticism of the nation itself and not the people! Duh![close]
maybe I'm just a sensitive Sue.
maybe I'm just a sensitive Sue.
There are no maybes about it.
That being said, when people are angry, they need to pause before hitting the post button because they're likely to make broad, knee-jerk statements. This happens a lot with Canadians when discussing US foreign policy.
"Fuck Americans. They need to die."
"I meant the Bush administration; I love Americans!"
"Fuck Israel" is not "Fuck Jews" anymore than posting "Fuck China" in a thread about how their lack of regulation is destroying the environment means "Fuck anyone of Chinese ancestry"
"Fuck Israel" is not "Fuck Jews" anymore than posting "Fuck China" in a thread about how their lack of regulation is destroying the environment means "Fuck anyone of Chinese ancestry"
Only when you elide the "most disgusting people" bit, which is kind of important. Even CotG isn't defending his original statement, dode.
As for TA, he's obviously just trolling, trying to get us riled up over his misuse of "it's".
I can't wait until the Gaza Strip gets waxed.
Why does the US associate with Israel?Something about being the holy land for christians i think.
Why does the US associate with Israel?For strategic reasons.
They're a bunch of fucking terrorists.
Why does the US associate with Israel?
They're a bunch of fucking terrorists.
Why bother changing your original post when it probably most accurately reflected how you truly felt, CurseoftheGods?<-- you're off the deep end when you're talking about what someone else "probably" meant or thought.
I am going to my hotel's bar to get a couple of drinks. I suggest everyone to do the same.
I am going to my hotel's bar to get a couple of drinks. I suggest everyone to do the same.
Would, but Halifax is rather far from here.
even curse didn't fully defend his statement, so why are you carrying his water?
CotG's running a clinic on passive aggression. Y'all take notes.
I'm really offended by the fact that some people are finding more important to go on about a single post (comprised of a single line) than what's going on between the two factions (from deaths to threats that are escalating the situation).
smh at everyone involved.
The US had a Polish security adviser? Nice. He speaks so eloquent. Also check out 6:40 where that woman gives the camera a ::) because Morning Joe is being a stupid asshat.
:bow Zbigniew Brzezinski: You have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what went on it's almost embarrasing to listen to. :bow2
:bow Zbigniew Brzezinski: If you're going to judge your knowdledge by the collective standards of 300 million people don't be surprised you're embarrased. :bow2
This guy is a genius.
Also I have to say there is nothing wrong with saying 'Fuck Israel'.
You know the sad thing is that Hitler has succeeded post mortem in making the 'Jewish Question' a real thing. I have studied antisemitism for quite a while, and you might even say that's my field of expertise in history. Up until the creation Israel as a state antisemitism was mostly bullshit. It was not much different then other forms of racism. But now there is this one state that is supplying legitimate ammo for Jew haters. Now some Jews will have you believe that Israel hate equals neo-antisemitism. Clearly in some cases, that is correct but most people that question the actions of the state of Israel are not antisemites, hell they condemnd the Holocaust and antisemitism too.
Fuck Hitler.
What are some good books in that field of history, oh expert pollack? Also I need to get some books on the creation of the state of Israel/seeds of the Israeli Palestinian conflict because I'm mainly ignorant on that
I spit Red Bull all over my desk. :lol
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NEW YORK POST
Israeli Pilot Suffers Thumb Injury
the bomb he fired kills fifteen Palestinian civilians.
NEW YORK POST
Israeli Pilot Suffers Thumb Injury
the bomb he fired kills fifteen Terrormen.
UNITED NATIONS – The United States has blocked approval of a U.N. Security Council statement calling for an immediate cease-fire between Israel and Gaza's Hamas rulers, diplomats said.
Bull-fucking-shit.
So what, Hitler created antisemitism now? "The Jewish Question" wasn't considered a real issue until Hitler? "Up until the creation Israel as a state antisemitism was mostly bullshit"?
And you consider yourself an expert in antisemitism? :rofl
Is it safe to say that you're a hard intentionalist when it comes to the Holocaust?
Pogroms? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogroms#Pogroms_against_Jews
The Dreyfus affair? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyfus_Affair
Martin Luther? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies_(Martin_Luther)
Hell, why bother with picking specifics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_antisemitism
Boogie really, I bet you're a nice guy but you posting stuff like this seems stupid. You really think I don't know this stuff? You think I got my degree for free or something? I'm really happy you posted the wiki link to the history of anti semitism. But you know I learned that stuff in University from some of the leading scholars on the subject in the Netherlands. I really don't want to be a pretentious asshole about it, you're entitled to your own opinions but thinking that you can somehow undo years of education by posting some links is silly.
I didn't say the jewish question wasn't considered a real issue until Hitler, I don't see where I did. I just said that until after Hitler it wasn't a huge worldwide problem. Antisemitism wasn't big under Hitler, in fact as you probably know he didn't get elected because he hated Jews. He got elected for his social program. Germans considered the Kristalnacht un-German and the Nazi regime made sure never to do such a thing in the open again. Sure in the middle ages stuff happened like Pogroms, but that was incidental and regional at best. Also antisemitism was a fringe thing for most of history, now with Israel it's a front page issue. Israel doesn't equal Jews, but it's their state and accusations being made now aren't done by some right wing dipshits writing down theories on Jewish conspiracies, people who are mad now are ordinary folks that are tired of the bullshit going on in the Middle East. Shit that's going on since Israel has been established affects the whole world. It feeds terrorism.
Also you assuming I'm a hardcore intentionalist is wrong, where did you get that impression? I'm more of a functionalist if you feel the need to label me anything.
Oh yeah PD a good book you should read about the Holocaust is:
Ordinary Men. http://www.amazon.com/Ordinary-Men-Reserve-Battalion-Solution/dp/0060995068
or more approachable
Hitler's Willing Executioners http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0679772685/$%7B0%7D
Not long after Israel's ground incursion began, Hamas vowed to "fight until the last breath" and warned Israel that "Gaza will be your cemetery."
An Israeli soldier was killed and another was seriously wounded near Jabalya in northern Gaza, according to the Israeli military. It marks the first Israeli military death since the ground operation was launched Saturday night.
507 Palestinians, including about 100 women and children, have been killed in the week-long military operation, and 2,600 Palestinians have been injured, most of them civilians, sources said.
"When the Jews bomb us when we are asleep, [Hassanin] says 'We get scared,' " a translator says.
Hassanin is one boy from Gaza speaking frankly to an anchor on Hamas TV about the attacks, which have gone on for 10 days.
Children like him have accounted for one-third of the casualties at Gaza's main hospital, foreign doctors say. And now Hamas and their media are making them the face of the attacks.
The children have seen terrible images of tragedy: their friends injured or killed and bloodied bodies in the streets.
They are images Hassanin says he will never forget. He'll keep them stored away until he's old enough to do something about it.
"When we will grow up, we will bomb them back," a CNN translator quoted the boy saying on Hamas TV.
... but it works.
If the Palestinians don't want schools or hospitals to be hit, maybe they should tell Hamas to not put mortars at the schools and hospitals and to stop using kids as human shields and pity chips for the media.
wat? :lol
It's like no matter where they hide their kids they're gonna be accused of using them as shields. They took refuge in those schools to hide from the strikes, and they had some people trying to protect the place!
Where exactly do suggest them to go without any protection since the whole city is under siege?
:dur
Eze 12:19 And say to the people of the land, 'Thus says the Lord GOD to the inhabitants of Jerusalem [and] to the land of Israel: "They shall eat their bread with anxiety, and drink their water with dread, so that her land may be emptied of all who are in it, because of the violence of all those who dwell in it.
Eze 12:19 And say to the people of the land, 'Thus says the Lord GOD to the inhabitants of Jerusalem [and] to the land of Israel: "They shall eat their bread with anxiety, and drink their water with dread, so that her land may be emptied of all who are in it, because of the Hamas of all those who dwell in it.
The outcry against Israel's actions seems to be getting bigger and bigger every time one of these pushes into Gaza happen. I wonder how this'll all turn out, I certainly get this feeling of something turning over that'll change the whole landscape of this situation.
The outcry against Israel's actions seems to be getting bigger and bigger every time one of these pushes into Gaza happen. I wonder how this'll all turn out, I certainly get this feeling of something turning over that'll change the whole landscape of this situation.
(IsraelNN.com) Web blogs all over the Internet are continuing to buzz about an Iranian ship that was hijacked last August by Somali pirates and which Russian sources warned contained a dirty bomb intended for Israel.
The hijacking passed largely unnoticed in the mainstream media, save a brief mention in the news on August 22 that reported that three vessels – Iranian, Japanese and German – and their 57 crew members were hijacked by pirates in the Gulf of Aden near Somalia. Several pirates died after they forced open part of the cargo.
The waterway connects the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean. Somalia, host to the longest coastline in Africa (1,880 miles), is an international piracy and terrorist hotspot. Foreign vessels are often seized by pirates in the area, who hold the ships and their crews for ransom.
According to its manifest, the MV Iran Devant had departed Nanjing, China on July 28 and was headed to Rotterdam to deliver 42,500 tons of iron ore and "industrial products" to an unidentified "German client." But the Iranian bulk carrier with 29 crew members, owned and operated by the U.S.-sanctioned Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines (IRISL), was apparently transporting cargo considerably more significant than the average contraband.
The 40 pirates, armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) brought the ship to Eyl, a fishing village in northeastern Somalia, according to numerous bloggers. There a larger contingent of pirates took control of the vessel – 50 on board and 50 patrolling on the beach.
Initial attempts to inspect the ship's seven cargo containers failed. The pirates could not break into the holds and the crew swore they did not have access codes to the locks. The captain and engineer of the vessel evaded answering questions about the contents of the holds, despite threats by the pirates to blow up the ship. They first said the containers held crude oil, but then changed the story to say there were "minerals" in the holds.
When at last the pirates succeeded in opening one of the containers, they allegedly discovered packets of what they later reported to be "a powdery fine sandy soil." The pirates who had any exposure to the powder were reportedly struck down by illness and within days began to exhibit strange symptoms, including skin burns and hair loss. Sixteen of them died. Andrew Mwangura, director of the East African Seafarers' Assistance Program, was quoted by the South Africa Sunday Times in a September 28 interview, "There is something very wrong about that ship."
The vessel was released by the pirates on October 10, announced the IRISL public relations office, "after seven weeks of negotiations with Somali pirates." All 29 members of the crew were reported safe. Iran criticized world powers for its indifference toward the lack of security in international waters. IRISL, which is run by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, added in its statement that the vessel was sailing towards international waters and it is not clear where the ship has gone since the report.
Russian Intelligence: Ship Was a Dirty Bomb Sent to Israel
U.S. and Israeli intelligence officials maintained a tight-lipped silence on the alleged incident. However, Russian intelligence sources reportedly said the ship was "an enormous floating dirty bomb, intending to detonate after exiting the Suez Canal at the eastern end of the Mediterranean and in proximity to the coastal cities of Israel.
"The entire cargo of radioactive sand," said the Russian sources, " [was] obtained by Iran from China (the latter buys desperately needed oil from the former) and sealed in containers which, when the charges on the ship are set off after the crew took to the boats, will be blasted high into the air where prevailing winds will push the highly dangerous and radioactive cloud ashore."
Several military web blogs have noted that had the ship's crew succeeded in reaching Israel's coastal waters with their deadly cargo, it would have been quite easy to escape the vessel in small boats and then detonate explosives on the vessel. The radioactive powder, which would have been blown into the air, would have been carried by the wind straight to Israel.
'Logically Not Reliable, But Nothing Impossible in the Middle East'
Dr. Ephraim Kam, deputy director of the Institute for National Security Studies (INSS), told Israel National News that the entire incident could easily have been a fiction -- or not. "Nothing is impossible in this region," said Kam, an IDF Colonel (res.) and former deputy director of the Research Division in the IDF's Military Intelligence, "but logically [the report] doesn't seem to be very reliable."
The reason, he said, is that such an attack on Israel would cost the Iranians dearly -- and he said they know it.
"First of all, because it could fail, and this would be the worst thing for them. I think that if at all, the timing is very bad for them, while they are trying to acquire their own nuclear weapons, when there is international pressure on them on that issue… It could give Israel the best excuse to attack their nuclear facilities.
"Also, if such an operation is successful, the outcome could be an Israeli strategic attack against the Iranians, which could be very costly for the Islamic Republic. Since the Iranians believe that Israel does have a nuclear arsenal, they have to take into account that Israel would respond by nuclear attack," he pointed out.
"If it is true, this incident could give Israel the best pretext to attack an Iranian nuclear site," said Kam. "Rationally, I tend to think it is no more than a good story."
Israeli government officials could not be reached for comment.
Here's something interesting:QuoteEze 12:19 And say to the people of the land, 'Thus says the Lord GOD to the inhabitants of Jerusalem [and] to the land of Israel: "They shall eat their bread with anxiety, and drink their water with dread, so that her land may be emptied of all who are in it, because of the violence of all those who dwell in it.
The Hebrew word for violence used there is חמס (chamac). The English pronunciation for that word is khä·mäse', which is "Hamas".QuoteEze 12:19 And say to the people of the land, 'Thus says the Lord GOD to the inhabitants of Jerusalem [and] to the land of Israel: "They shall eat their bread with anxiety, and drink their water with dread, so that her land may be emptied of all who are in it, because of the Hamas of all those who dwell in it.
Here's something interesting:QuoteEze 12:19 And say to the people of the land, 'Thus says the Lord GOD to the inhabitants of Jerusalem [and] to the land of Israel: "They shall eat their bread with anxiety, and drink their water with dread, so that her land may be emptied of all who are in it, because of the violence of all those who dwell in it.
The Hebrew word for violence used there is חמס (chamac). The English pronunciation for that word is khä·mäse', which is "Hamas".QuoteEze 12:19 And say to the people of the land, 'Thus says the Lord GOD to the inhabitants of Jerusalem [and] to the land of Israel: "They shall eat their bread with anxiety, and drink their water with dread, so that her land may be emptied of all who are in it, because of the Hamas of all those who dwell in it.
Studio Ghilbi had a movie called Laputa: Castle in the Sky
La Puta means The Whore in Spanish.
There were no whores in Studio Ghilbi's movie.
This is what we call "a coincidence"
12:19
וְאָמַרְתָּ֣ אֶל־עַ֣ם הָאָ֡רֶץ כֹּֽה־אָמַר֩ אֲדֹנָ֨י יְהוִ֜ה לְיֹושְׁבֵ֤י יְרוּשָׁלִַ֨ם֙ אֶל־אַדְמַ֣ת יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לַחְמָם֙ בִּדְאָגָ֣ה יֹאכֵ֔לוּ וּמֵֽימֵיהֶ֖ם בְּשִׁמָּמֹ֣ון יִשְׁתּ֑וּ לְמַ֜עַן תֵּשַׁ֤ם אַרְצָהּ֙ מִמְּלֹאָ֔הּ מֵחֲמַ֖ס כָּֽל־הַיֹּשְׁבִ֥ים בָּֽהּ׃
No it's just that I doubt that "Hamas" would choose that name if it meant "Violence that should be purged".QuoteḤamās, an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamat al-Islāmiyyah, meaning "Islamic Resistance Movement"
Or do you not know that Arabic is the origin of the name?
The Ohio man who became a household name during the presidential campaign says he is heading to Israel as a war correspondent for the conservative Web site pjtv.com.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3Xl68kP4wo
To the Dragona shouting "Nuke Israel".
Ok, you can nuke Israel. But in exchange for that we get to nuke Mecca and Medina.
And the book of Ezekiel was written (in Hebrew) some 600 years before Muhammad made up his religion.
:rofl
You mean the book of Ezekiel was made up 600 years before Mohammad made up his book. Darn those crazy people.
I would love to see anyone trying to nuke Mecca and Medina, seriously!!
See in Islam it is believed that those two places are protected by God and that them getting destroyed is one of the final signs of the Apocalypse (though the prophecy doesn't mention a nuke but a person with a certain name and origin at a very distinct time).
In other words, the sooner someone nukes it, the sooner people realize that Islam is a sham. Everyone would revert, and wars/terrorism will be over.
Awesome idea rite?
Isa 17:1 The burden against Damascus. "Behold, Damascus will cease from [being] a city, And it will be a ruinous heap.
Stolen, but Americans now have a new man on the scene in Israel.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/01/07/us/AP-Joe-The-Plumber.html?_r=2QuoteThe Ohio man who became a household name during the presidential campaign says he is heading to Israel as a war correspondent for the conservative Web site pjtv.com.spoiler (click to show/hide):rofl[close]
Ok, you can nuke Israel. But in exchange for that we get to nuke Mecca and Medina.
what, the obsessive knowledge of fucking Disneyland didn't tip you off?
Israel's prime minister said Monday that U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was embarrassed after being ordered to abstain from voting for a United Nations ceasefire resolution that she helped arrange.http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090112/world/israel_us_rice_1
A U.S. official denied the claim.
Israel had described the resolution calling for a halt to the Gaza fighting as unworkable because it did not guarantee Israel's security, and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he was key in persuading the United States, a close ally, to abstain.
The resolution, passed Jan. 8 in a 14-0 vote, "calls for an immediate, durable and fully respected ceasefire, leading to the full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza."
"I said: 'Get me President Bush on the phone,"' Olmert said Monday in a speech in the southern Israeli city of Ashkelon. "They said he was in the middle of giving a speech in Philadelphia. I said I didn't care: 'I need to talk to him now.' He got off the podium and spoke to me."
Olmert said he told Bush that the United States should not vote in favour, and the U.S. president then called Rice and told her not to do so.
A senior U.S. official disputed the account.
"The government of Israel does not make policy for the United States," the official said on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the diplomacy.
Have any US politicians condemned Israel yet?
I want some pro-Israel buttons
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I've seen people wearing 'Free Palestina' buttons here just the other day, like a mother and her two kids who were around 5 :-\It's nationalism, not religion that is motivating this whole conflict. To take either Israel or Hamas' side automatically makes you an idiot.
I want some pro-Israel buttons just to spite the pro-Palestine people.
Make it happen Willco.
yeah. :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02FKf2qACHA
Buchanan has said and written things that make him sound like an anti-Semite. He has, however, often put forward a balanced position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I can't say I disagree with what he said in the video, outside of his loaded language and his glossing over how hard it will be to create peace with Hamas.
Buchanan has said and written things that make him sound like an anti-Semite. He has, however, often put forward a balanced position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I can't say I disagree with what he said in the video, outside of his loaded language and his glossing over how hard it will be to create peace with Hamas.
This is a picture of Gaza students back to school after the bombings. The cards mention the names [and ages] of the students who are not there anymore.
(AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)
Israeli soccer matches were suspended during the assault on Gaza. When the games resumed last week, the fans had come up with a new chant: "Why have the schools in Gaza been shut down?" sang the crowd. "Because all the children were gunned down!" came the answer.
http://www.inewsit.com/video/gallery/Footage-of-Israeli-Military-Shooting-Gaza-Farmers
fuck israel