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Title: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 31, 2009, 10:36:16 PM
http://www.newrpg.jp/
Title: Re: does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Bocsius on March 31, 2009, 10:40:07 PM
Well, they probably enjoy getting paychecks.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 31, 2009, 10:41:25 PM
Yeah, money is a good thing. Interesting that SE isn't listed at the bottom of the site. I wonder if they're breaking free?
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Third on March 31, 2009, 11:28:06 PM
Good thing there's no SE involved, otherwise there wouldn't be a Ps3 version.

Does MS have a deal with SE or what? Why the hell would SE only support the X360 with their jrpg's? Especially in Japan, where the Ps3 version of the games would sell 5 times better...

Some shady shit.
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Post by: Bocsius on March 31, 2009, 11:31:07 PM
I was under the impression PS3 was getting Squeenix games. Have I been misled?
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Post by: demi on March 31, 2009, 11:37:38 PM
I was under the impression PS3 was getting Squeenix games. Have I been misled?

I think we are supposed to be under the impression that Infinite Undiscovery is cool now
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Third on March 31, 2009, 11:38:32 PM
Only FFXIII and FFVersusXIII come to mind.

The first one being multiplatform.

SE has sucked shit so far this generation anyway.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Rman on March 31, 2009, 11:39:24 PM
Good thing there's no SE involved, otherwise there wouldn't be a Ps3 version.

Does MS have a deal with SE or what? Why the hell would SE only support the X360 with their jrpg's? Especially in Japan, where the Ps3 version of the games would sell 5 times better...

Some shady shit.
Of course there's an exclusivity deal.  PS3 software hasn't been lighting up the charts either, chief, at least in Japan.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Third on March 31, 2009, 11:44:50 PM
Good thing there's no SE involved, otherwise there wouldn't be a Ps3 version.

Does MS have a deal with SE or what? Why the hell would SE only support the X360 with their jrpg's? Especially in Japan, where the Ps3 version of the games would sell 5 times better...

Some shady shit.
Of course there's an exclusivity deal.  PS3 software hasn't been lighting up the charts either, chief, at least in Japan.

Still doing much better than the X360.
I bet Star Ocean IV would've sold 500k in Japan by now, if it were a Ps3 release...
The game is pretty big in Japan.  But it bombed in Japan and in NA.



Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 31, 2009, 11:50:30 PM
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Good thing there's no SE involved, otherwise there wouldn't be a Ps3 version.

Does MS have a deal with SE or what? Why the hell would SE only support the X360 with their jrpg's? Especially in Japan, where the Ps3 version of the games would sell 5 times better...

IU was initially produced by Microsoft and they co-own the IP, TLR was supposed to be multiplatform/simultaneous but SE's programmers had a hard time with UE3 on PS3, SO4 who knows.

the conspiracy theories are pretty odd seeing as SE's flagship franchise is still PS first/only.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Rman on March 31, 2009, 11:56:05 PM
Dragon Quest is on Nintendo platforms now, though.  And FFXIII is multiplatform.  Kingdom Hearts is anyone guess, but I'm thinking PS3 or at least multi platform.  Only VS is still PS exclusive.  I'm thinking it will go multi as well when it is all said and done.

SE has been a disaster this generation on the console front.  Capcom is still schooling all the Japanese devs this gen with its platform agnostic approach.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 01, 2009, 12:02:00 AM
Valkeeeriieeee Profiiiilleeee

I wish
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 01, 2009, 12:24:00 AM
SE has been a disaster this generation on the console front.  Capcom is still schooling all the Japanese devs this gen with its platform agnostic approach.

I don't know if it's just technical issues that are plaguing SE and other J-RPG developers.  They appear to be stuck in a quagmire because Japanase gamers want more of the traditional J-RPG gameplay while Western gamers seem to have gotten tired of it. 
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 01, 2009, 12:50:31 AM
Crystal Tools? They seemed to bank their total multiplatform development on it. Wasn't it massively retooled at one point? (or still heavily in development at the start of the generation?).
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: pilonv1 on April 01, 2009, 12:54:14 AM
Why would anyone be excited about a new Tri Ace game? Surely they still have a dirty taste in their mouths from the last few. :yuck
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 01, 2009, 12:56:43 AM
One thing thats horrible, after reflecting over it, is that game content in tri-Ace games seem to have taken a hit. Sure you've got the standard post game dungeon and all but it didn't feel as rich as their PS/PS2 efforts.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 01, 2009, 01:00:35 AM
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Crystal Tools? They seemed to bank their total multiplatform development on it. Wasn't it massively retooled at one point? (or still heavily in development at the start of the generation?).

There were rumors, but I don't think much is known outside SE about CT development.

The only recent tri-Ace game I've played (am playing now) is Valkyrie Profile DS.  Which is pretty good so far.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: TVC15 on April 01, 2009, 04:15:07 AM
Boy, I wonder if this game will SUCK ASS?!

Tri-Ace: leave them in the ghetto or put them on the train to Auschwitz?
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Himu on April 01, 2009, 04:45:18 AM
the only tri-ace series of note is VP
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: maxy on April 01, 2009, 08:12:45 AM
Blah,5 years old peeping Tom main character confirmed. :yuck
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Kestastrophe on April 01, 2009, 10:07:23 AM
To me the issues this gen are the art style, stories, characters and voiceovers.

I don't really care if the battle system is cool if I have to deal with horrible voice acting and a bunch of loli shit for 30+ hours. Looking at older RPGs that I liked, they were always much better stylistically than what I've seen this gen. Vesperia looks alright, but I have next to no interest in SO4, IU or Eternal Sonata because of shit like the dinner dance and that scene in SO4 with the winged chick trying to fly.

Not mention the loli shit.
those are some rose tinted glasses you're wearing. I am going to leave the art style out of it since that is pretty subjective and I partly agree with it, but the stories, character, and voiceovers? Those have sucked in JRPGs for some time. And calling out the dinner dance? there is weird shit like that in plenty of older RPGs
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: tiesto on April 01, 2009, 10:43:39 AM
Awesome, just when I was beginning to think no more RPGs would come out on next-gen systems after FFXIII.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Jansen on April 01, 2009, 12:18:44 PM
tri-ace should take a break. permanently

or at least until they hire someone that can direct a cutscene and new tech folks that can do better then standard def
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 01, 2009, 12:55:27 PM
Awesome, just when I was beginning to think no more RPGs would come out on next-gen systems after FFXIII.

We could use a new SMT (not Persona) game, something close to Nocturne thematically.

I'd prefer gameplay more like Digital Devil Saga, but SMTIII would work, too.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Rman on April 01, 2009, 08:45:16 PM
the only tri-ace series of note is VP
Didn't like Star Ocean 4?
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: pilonv1 on April 07, 2009, 10:24:15 PM
New publisher is SEGA :lol

http://eoe.sega.jp
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: pilonv1 on April 07, 2009, 10:28:00 PM
(http://kjm.kir.jp/data/1239153579831.jpg)

another shit tri-ace rpg
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Bebpo on April 07, 2009, 10:31:39 PM
I'd like to think Square Enix fired them after the shit jobs they did with IU & SO4, but that's probably just wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: tiesto on April 07, 2009, 10:40:02 PM
Holy shit... that's fucking crazy.

Get tri-Ace cracking on a PS5, please, SEGA.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: demi on April 07, 2009, 10:46:05 PM
wow awesome more achievements that make me play the game 3 fucking times
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 07, 2009, 10:51:55 PM
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(http://img193.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-19324/loc1060/55111_5_122_1060lo.jpg)

http://wiieveryday.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: demi on April 07, 2009, 10:53:28 PM
That looks kinda tight. Reminds me of Galerians
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Third on April 07, 2009, 10:54:03 PM
Reminds me more of Shadow Hearts.
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Post by: pilonv1 on April 07, 2009, 10:57:05 PM
gunz
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: demi on April 07, 2009, 10:57:38 PM
gunz

Parasite Eve
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 07, 2009, 10:59:06 PM
Sounds like Ni-Oh is still alive, too.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Diunx on April 07, 2009, 11:02:03 PM
Kojima should make an RPG.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: pilonv1 on April 07, 2009, 11:05:32 PM
You're In The Movies is getting a JP release too :hyper
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: tiesto on April 07, 2009, 11:17:24 PM
Looks really cool, definitely gives me a SH vibe... but I can't make out exactly what's going on with the battle system. Looks action/thrd person shooter in style, which would kinda suck.  :-\
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Bebpo on April 07, 2009, 11:23:56 PM
It says semi-realtime which gives some hope and some scare.  Hopefully it means like VP and not like SO/IU.  Tri-ace should stick to turn-based full-party control battle systems because they can't program AI worth a damn.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 07, 2009, 11:29:13 PM
It says semi-realtime which gives some hope and some scare.  Hopefully it means like VP and not like SO/IU.  Tri-ace should stick to turn-based full-party control battle systems because they can't program AI worth a damn.

I like my RPG's AI rape free.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Bebpo on April 07, 2009, 11:33:58 PM
I like my RPG's AI rape free.

Same.  But at least Team Symphonia Tales games tend to have really good AI options and Persona 3 had good AI as well.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 07, 2009, 11:39:16 PM
Would be cool if this forged a relationship where they have tri-Ace develop Phantasy Star 5.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Bebpo on April 07, 2009, 11:45:36 PM
Would be cool if this forged a relationship where they have tri-Ace develop Phantasy Star 5.

Why would you want them to rape your childhood memories.  Grab your game packages of Star Ocean 3/4 and write Phantasy Star 5/6 on them if you want that so much.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 07, 2009, 11:50:39 PM
:p

My whole issue with the Star Ocean games are the scenario writers (and writing in general), voice acting and pacing of the story. I'm perfectly fine the game mechanics. Though, I can see them making PS5 into Star Ocean lite or something.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: tiesto on April 08, 2009, 12:01:22 AM
Would be cool if this forged a relationship where they have tri-Ace develop Phantasy Star 5.

Why would you want them to rape your childhood memories.  Grab your game packages of Star Ocean 3/4 and write Phantasy Star 5/6 on them if you want that so much.

Sega has been raping my memories of the PS series for a looooooong while.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Diunx on April 08, 2009, 12:06:58 AM
This is the most distinguished mentally-challenged name for an RPG since Infinite Undiscovered.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on April 08, 2009, 12:47:16 AM
EoE is far from a distinguished mentally-challenged name. New Bayonetta scan  :hyper
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Himu on April 08, 2009, 12:49:01 AM
the only tri-ace series of note is VP
Didn't like Star Ocean 4?

haven't played so4
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: cool breeze on April 08, 2009, 12:54:04 AM
EoE is far from a distinguished mentally-challenged name.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/izz38l.jpg)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
If you have any interest in that game, just don't.
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Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Himu on April 08, 2009, 12:55:35 AM
eoe sounds like a buff or debuff name in an rpg or something
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Post by: maxy on April 08, 2009, 02:24:24 AM
Is it true that it will have random encounters?
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Diunx on April 08, 2009, 03:16:30 AM
Is it true that it will have random encounters?

God I hope no.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Purple Filth on April 08, 2009, 04:02:48 AM
as a few said in this thread already

it kinda has the look from Shadow Hearts (especially the dude)
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Jansen on April 08, 2009, 09:48:50 AM
third person
aiming reticule
guns
random encounters
tri-arse

this game is going to suck. folks it's time to stop giving tri-ace the benefit of the doubt because they made a few good games
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: tiesto on April 08, 2009, 09:53:23 AM
Is it true that it will have random encounters?

God I hope no.

God I hope so.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 08, 2009, 09:59:35 AM
Random encounters on the world map, seamless battles in dungeons
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Post by: Tucah on April 08, 2009, 10:30:08 AM
Dunno how I feel about this, VP series is pretty much the only series I've ever really enjoyed from Tri Ace, but I guess I'll still give it a try.
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Post by: Diunx on April 08, 2009, 12:35:43 PM
I'd take a seamless world  like in DQVIII over a world map.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 08, 2009, 08:05:06 PM
High-def scans here:

http://www.true-gaming.net/boards/showthread.php?t=17484

I need to see a video of this, the actual battles look pretty ugly based on some screenshots.
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Post by: Third on April 08, 2009, 08:13:39 PM
That's some weird ass dungeoun/city, or whatever.
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Post by: Error2k4 on April 08, 2009, 08:20:45 PM
- the director for EoE worked on VP2 (director), Vagrant Story and Final Fantasy Tactics (Battle Planner in both)
- the battle system is like VP2 (at least the basics), except with guns. You move=enemies move, you stay still=enemies don't move etc.. etc..
- the whole game will take place in Bazel, the big tower is just one part of Bazel.
- field movement is done by using hexagonal grids, battles are random while on the field. In dungeons, battles are seamless. 

It seems pretty different from their usual stuff. It doesn't even look to me like Sakuraba is going to compose for this.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Greatness Gone on April 08, 2009, 08:22:15 PM
Tri-Ace can go suck a fuck after making Yaoi Ocean 4. Bayonetta looks amazing. It's the only game besides Diablo 3 I care about anymore.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 08, 2009, 08:23:18 PM
Since Masaki Norimoto (SO1-3/VP1-2 game system designer, VP1 scenario writer) was only credited as a supervisor for SO4, I wonder if he's on this.
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Post by: Greatness Gone on April 08, 2009, 08:27:29 PM
holy fuck apparently Bayonetta can summon giant hair ravens and shit now and wield axes the size of dump-trucks
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 08, 2009, 08:30:13 PM
Woah, a JRPG from Square-Enix that doesn't feature twelve-year old children as the leads!!  :o
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 08, 2009, 08:32:09 PM
Woah, a JRPG from Square-Enix that doesn't feature twelve-year old children as the leads!!  :o

It's not from Square Enix.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Error2k4 on April 08, 2009, 08:33:14 PM
Except it's Sega not Square Enix.

Recursive: the battle programmer for SO2, SO3, VP1 and VP2; wasn't involved with SO4. So maybe he was working on this? I hope so. I don't understand why the battle programming for SO4 was outsourced.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: WrikaWrek on April 08, 2009, 08:34:52 PM
Tri Ace has the worst character designers in the industry.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Third on April 08, 2009, 08:36:42 PM
Woah, a JRPG from Square-Enix that doesn't feature twelve-year old children as the leads!!  :o

The girl with the long brown hair looks very underaged to me.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 08, 2009, 08:43:52 PM
tri-Ace usually outsources their character design (to various manga and anime designers/illustrators), though.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: treythemovie on April 08, 2009, 08:47:19 PM
Tri-ace should go back to their old output of games because apparently uping the # of games only mangifies their flaws 100-fold.
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Post by: MoxManiac on April 08, 2009, 08:49:53 PM
- the director for EoE worked on VP2 (director), Vagrant Story and Final Fantasy Tactics (Battle Planner in both)
- the battle system is like VP2 (at least the basics), except with guns. You move=enemies move, you stay still=enemies don't move etc.. etc..
- the whole game will take place in Bazel, the big tower is just one part of Bazel.
- field movement is done by using hexagonal grids, battles are random while on the field. In dungeons, battles are seamless. 

It seems pretty different from their usual stuff. It doesn't even look to me like Sakuraba is going to compose for this.

Awesome, except for the Sakuraba part (he's the one behind the godlike VP soundtracks, right?)
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Error2k4 on April 08, 2009, 08:57:14 PM
Yeah he did the music for nearly all tri-Ace games, except Radiata.

About his involvement with this new project, that was just me speculating.

Quote
Tri-ace should go back to their old output of games because apparently uping the # of games only mangifies their flaws 100-fold.
their last 2 console games consist of a tiny tri-Ace unit of about 30-40 people, with the rest being 'external experts'.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 08, 2009, 08:59:35 PM
Woah, a JRPG from Square-Enix that doesn't feature twelve-year old children as the leads!!  :o

It's not from Square Enix.

Bloody hell! It is a JRPG though, so I consider this a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 08, 2009, 09:10:17 PM
?? The characters are upper teens just like most recent FF games.  I think FF13 and Versus leads are early 20s actually.
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: tiesto on April 09, 2009, 12:01:21 AM
Why are people so threatened by having little kids join your party in an RPG? Were you all bitching when Palom and Porom joined in FF4?
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Post by: Herr Mafflard on April 15, 2009, 06:50:12 AM
new trailer: http://gt.tv/player/48018.html

steampunk FFVIII look :drool

no kiddies!
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: demi on April 15, 2009, 07:07:00 AM
Why are people so threatened by having little kids join your party in an RPG? Were you all bitching when Palom and Porom joined in FF4?

(http://charas-project.net/resources/Charasets/19295_1135443606.png)

(http://www.dabbledoo.com/ee/images/uploads/gamertell/IURuchaRico_thumb.jpg)

I dont think you really get it
Title: Re: Bloody hell, does Tri-Ace ever take a break?
Post by: Beezy on April 15, 2009, 09:36:07 AM
:lol

Back then, you didn't have to hear their voices either.