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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: pilonv1 on April 17, 2009, 08:53:43 AM

Title: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: pilonv1 on April 17, 2009, 08:53:43 AM: I can't decide so I want EB's knowledgeable gamers (and Himuro) to tell me what to play.

I like the sound of Etrian Odyssey and Dark Spire but I'm not interested in grinding. Would prefer something with an interesting battle system.

No faggoty stuff like Mario & Luigi or Crystal Chronicles pls. Opinions on Pokemon Platinum are welcome though :-*
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: TVC15 on April 17, 2009, 08:56:20 AM: I really dug Dragon Quest 5, if you haven't played it. It's also not grindy at all--easily the least grindy DQ game I have played. I haven't had to grind once. Mind you, it is rather oldskool and the story is, well, I just finished it and I really don't remember any of it.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2009, 09:20:30 AM: DQ5.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: TVC15 on April 17, 2009, 09:25:07 AM: Valkyrie Profile DS is also really good from what I have played, but it's more styled after Japanese SRPGs in structure than normal JRPGs.

FF4:DS is an awesome remake, but it is grindy. CT:DS is basically a port of the SNES version. The extra content blows.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Bebpo on April 17, 2009, 09:50:21 AM: DQ4 first, then DQ5.
FF4 if you want a challenge. It's not really grindy it's just fucking hard if you don't grind (but hard in a good challenging way).
None of these have interesting battle systems as they are old-school and simple.

Avoid EO as it's just a grind. Avoid FF3 it's all grind. What other rpgs have come out in English on the DS?
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Crushed on April 17, 2009, 09:54:59 AM: I dunno man, I always assumed Crystal Chronicles was lame and all but I've been playing the latest one for DS and it's really good. Loots and quests and shit. :hyper
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Bebpo on April 17, 2009, 09:57:22 AM: Quote from: Crushed on April 17, 2009, 09:54:59 AM
I dunno man, I always assumed Crystal Chronicles was lame and all but I've been playing the latest one for DS and it's really good. Loots and quests and shit. :hyper

Yeah, the first ds one was a lot of fun. It was like Zelda-lite. I still gotta pick up the sequel one of these days.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Crushed on April 17, 2009, 10:20:43 AM: Quote from: Bebpo on April 17, 2009, 09:57:22 AM
Quote from: Crushed on April 17, 2009, 09:54:59 AM
I dunno man, I always assumed Crystal Chronicles was lame and all but I've been playing the latest one for DS and it's really good. Loots and quests and shit. :hyper

Yeah, the first ds one was a lot of fun. It was like Zelda-lite. I still gotta pick up the sequel one of these days.

It's actually more like Diablo than Zelda, like how the offline mode and multiplayer are pretty much totally different experiences, and how your character is only half-way leveled and has no really decent loot at the end of the normal difficulty.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Kestastrophe on April 17, 2009, 10:41:04 AM: Quote from: Crushed on April 17, 2009, 10:20:43 AM
Quote from: Bebpo on April 17, 2009, 09:57:22 AM
Quote from: Crushed on April 17, 2009, 09:54:59 AM
I dunno man, I always assumed Crystal Chronicles was lame and all but I've been playing the latest one for DS and it's really good. Loots and quests and shit. :hyper

Yeah, the first ds one was a lot of fun. It was like Zelda-lite. I still gotta pick up the sequel one of these days.

It's actually more like Diablo than Zelda, like how the offline mode and multiplayer are pretty much totally different experiences, and how your character is only half-way leveled and has no really decent loot at the end of the normal difficulty.

That got me interested. I was looking for videos on youtube, and this gamespot review came up. This is the worst video review, professional or amateur, that I've ever seen.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzTQLQwh3a0[/youtube]

How does this game compare to Ring of Fates?
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2009, 10:45:49 AM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 17, 2009, 10:13:58 AM
TWEWY's an action RPG, but it's pretty much must have.

Aside from that DQIV and DQV are the best "no/very little grinding needed" RPGs on the system.

wtf

i grinded tons in dq4 ds and I'm the type that rarely runs from battles
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: tiesto on April 17, 2009, 10:59:56 AM: I'm in the midst of DQ5 right now... although I played the Japanese SNES version and the fan translation a while back, I almost completely forgot just how awesome the game is. Apart from the beginning, it's not grindy at all. It's also paced really well (you never spend more than a half hour in a dungeon, stuff is always happening in the storyline), and looks pretty nice for DS 3D. Currently my favorite game on the system...

Also another recommendation for The World Ends With You, awesome, highly stylistic and creative game.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2009, 11:05:18 AM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 17, 2009, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Himuro on April 17, 2009, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on April 17, 2009, 10:13:58 AM
TWEWY's an action RPG, but it's pretty much must have.

Aside from that DQIV and DQV are the best "no/very little grinding needed" RPGs on the system.

wtf

i grinded tons in dq4 ds and I'm the type that rarely runs from battles

I'm sorry you're terrible at games? That's what happens when you spend so much time playing broken RPGs like FFVIII.

I didn't stop once in it to grind and I got through it fine, even though I'm fucking awful at RPGs.

I'm not even bad at rpgs. There were multiple times where I had to stop and grind because I was 1-2 levels behind an enemy. I usually play rpgs underleveled anyways, so I make due usually. But in DQ4, I had to grind on at least 3 occasions to beat a boss. One time while as the princess at the tournament, another on chapter 4 I think. Another at the final boss, I had to level up about 2 times to beat him.

I've never had to grind in any other DQ game. Only DQ4 ds and from what I hear that's because they scaled down the environments from the original NES game but kept the same random battle rate. So either way, you'd be under leveled.

A lot of people on this forum have had the same experience and I wouldn't say any of us are particularly bad at rpgs.

Did you do the post-game dungeon? Are you telling me you managed to kill that Chinese food boss without grinding?
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: TVC15 on April 17, 2009, 11:22:31 AM: I have to side with Himu here: DQ4 is considerably grindier than DQ5, and even if it weren't, DQ5 is still the superior game.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: cool breeze on April 17, 2009, 11:25:22 AM: I really should pick up DQ5 on DS sometime soon.

and yeah, the Crystal Chronicle games (at least the first one that I played) are pretty good.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2009, 11:40:42 AM: Aeana can beat the dungeon because she's played the game probably 1 billion times. :(

I didn't do the money cheat.

What level were you when you did the bonus dungeon? I was like 52 or something.

Also, as I said, DQ4 ds is the only DQ where I EVER had to stop and grind. I'm not one of the people who thinks DQ is particularly grind heavy.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2009, 11:51:10 AM: And just to be clear, the grinding wasn't really much of a issue either due to DQ's fabulous battle system.

I mostly always had to level once or twice when playing DQ4 ds if I had to grind. So if a boss kept beating me because I didn't have enough HP or defense something, I'd just go out of my way to grind for 5 minutes to level up one time, go back and beat the boss.

So, for the most part, it wasn't particularly intrusive.

But I still had to do it.

The bonus dungeon, on the other hand... I still haven't bothered beating that Chinese food boss. The normal enemies are easy as shit there, but those two guys rape me.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2009, 12:12:44 PM: My stats as of chapter 6:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Time: 45 hours
level 36
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The main game can easily be done with the levels you gain through the main quest, as you said. But a few bumps in the road kinda made ruined the pace for me. I don't resort to leveling up when I'm in a bind in rpgs, you see.

I'm not saying the game is even grind heavy, because it's not.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Himu on April 17, 2009, 12:23:47 PM: I don't think DQ requires grinding. People who say you have to grind slimes are dumb. I guess DQ4 ds was an odd one with me since, I've beaten DQ1, 2, 4, 5, and 8 and the 4's the only one I really had to grind into beat it. Not a particularly big flaw, since it takes all up 10 minutes. But it did leave a bad taste in my mouth. Doesn't matter since DQ4 is probably in my top 3 favorite DQ games as of now.

I tried out The World Ends With You. I liked the idea, but couldn't get into the battle system. I played about 5 hours, took it back to the store and got Final Fantasy III ds. I'd like to try it again though. Since I"m not big on stylus gameplay I'm still skeptical if I should dive in again or not.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: muckhole on April 17, 2009, 01:57:27 PM: Quote from: jarosh on April 17, 2009, 11:22:19 AM
ORCS & ELVES is the best rpg on the ds.

you can probably find it for really cheap too. found it in a bargain bin last december in the US for $6.

:bow john carmack :bow2

:heart :hump

Excellent dungeon crawl, and like jarosh says, it can be had on the cheap.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Enl on April 17, 2009, 02:26:01 PM: Yeah Orcs and Elves is pretty fun but it's definitely an aquired taste. Your character moves in steps (meaning you push a button to take each step) and the game plays out like a 3d rogue-like game (but not nearly as deep or complex). The game is a hack 'n slash mixed in with turn based elements, and grinding is kept at a bare minimum. There is no music but the sound effects that come from the dungeons make for some good atmosphere. There is also several difficulty options for those of you who like it rough. It's easily worth the $15 if you're looking for something nontraditional and can stomach its old school approach.

Quote from: jarosh on April 17, 2009, 02:00:15 PM
doom rpg (even though it's only available on cellphones) is pretty rad too, btw!

I reeaally wish they would port this. That and Orcs and Elves 2, but I doubt that's going to happen. :'(
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: demi on April 17, 2009, 02:29:22 PM: Quote from: jarosh on April 17, 2009, 11:22:19 AM
ORCS & ELVES is the best rpg on the ds.

you can probably find it for really cheap too. found it in a bargain bin last december in the US for $6.

:bow john carmack :bow2

:lol
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: demi on April 17, 2009, 02:29:39 PM: Quote from: pilonv1 on April 17, 2009, 08:53:43 AM
I can't decide so I want EB's knowledgeable gamers (and Himuro) to tell me what to play.

I like the sound of Etrian Odyssey and Dark Spire but I'm not interested in grinding. Would prefer something with an interesting battle system.

No faggoty stuff like Mario & Luigi or Crystal Chronicles pls. Opinions on Pokemon Platinum are welcome though :-*

TWEWY, duh.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: demi on April 17, 2009, 02:30:19 PM: Quote from: TVC 15 on April 17, 2009, 09:25:07 AM
Valkyrie Profile DS is also really good from what I have played, but it's more styled after Japanese SRPGs in structure than normal JRPGs.

VP DS also
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: demi on April 17, 2009, 02:34:33 PM: [youtube=560,345]i0569Wt-cZ0[/youtube]

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/155/219s8qw.gif)(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/155/219s8qw.gif)(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/155/219s8qw.gif)(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/155/219s8qw.gif)
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Bebpo on April 17, 2009, 02:39:01 PM: World Ends With You is amazing (Nomura <3 <3)
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Enl on April 17, 2009, 02:39:38 PM: Quote from: jarosh on April 17, 2009, 02:32:41 PM
ya i know. it was a pain playing doom rpg on my cellphone. but it was still fun. would be so fucking awesome if orcs & elves 2 was ported to the ds... along with the more recently released wolfenstein rpg, which i also haven't played: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3DsNpPp1Hs

They probably decided not to port them based on Orcs and Elves sales, which is silly because Doom RPG would sell better due to the brand alone. And that Wolfenstein RPG looks hot! Wish I had a good enough cell phone to play it.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: demi on April 17, 2009, 02:41:22 PM: Quote from: Bebpo on April 17, 2009, 02:39:01 PM
World Ends With You is amazing (Nomura <3 <3)

[youtube=560,345]hgKc3HMGhtU[/youtube]

(http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/859/859808/the-world-ends-with-you-20080314035949831.jpg)

Amazing graphics :eek
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: demi on April 17, 2009, 02:43:39 PM: [youtube=560,345]FkkZ3ZBcrjM[/youtube]

Wow, amazing
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on April 17, 2009, 02:48:51 PM: TWEWY clearly wins, albeit the postmodern-looking art might look a bit faggoty to you at first.

I liked the new Crystal Chronicles game (Echoes of Time) too, it's a great mindless loot game and plays okay online.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: pilonv1 on April 17, 2009, 10:25:11 PM: Definitely going with DQ5, and will give TWEWY a look too. Thanks all.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: tiesto on April 18, 2009, 12:26:59 PM: Quote from: demi on April 17, 2009, 02:34:33 PM
[youtube=560,345]i0569Wt-cZ0[/youtube]

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/155/219s8qw.gif)(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/155/219s8qw.gif)(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/155/219s8qw.gif)(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/155/219s8qw.gif)

:rock :rock :rock I fucking love this song.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: tiesto on April 18, 2009, 12:37:54 PM: Also if you've never played it before, Chrono Trigger DS...
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: demi on April 18, 2009, 12:46:39 PM: Quote from: tiesto on April 18, 2009, 12:37:54 PM
Also if you've never played it before, Chrono Trigger DS...

Quote
Would prefer something with an interesting battle system.

Bye chrono trigger
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: tiesto on April 18, 2009, 12:48:00 PM: Quote from: demi on April 18, 2009, 12:46:39 PM
Quote from: tiesto on April 18, 2009, 12:37:54 PM
Also if you've never played it before, Chrono Trigger DS...

Quote
Would prefer something with an interesting battle system.

Bye chrono trigger

It's no less interesting than DQ5, which most of the people in this thread picked, and what he ended up with...
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: demi on April 18, 2009, 12:53:09 PM: He's Australian, he doesn't know any better.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: The Sceneman on April 18, 2009, 06:57:55 PM: Im coming into this thread to pimp Contact
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: drew on April 18, 2009, 07:02:03 PM: how about nothing

worst handheld ever
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Himu on April 18, 2009, 07:09:00 PM: contact fucking sucks
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on April 18, 2009, 07:11:20 PM: Quote
It's no less interesting than DQ5, which most of the people in this thread picked, and what he ended up with...

CT is lamer than DQ games battlewise though, because DQ games actually have regular battles that wear you down over the course of a dungeon.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: ManaByte on April 18, 2009, 07:28:17 PM: GTA Chinatown. Best drug dealing RPG ever.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: drew on April 18, 2009, 10:25:51 PM: drug wars on the ti-83 was and will always be better

if only for the fact that its not on the nintendo ds
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: demi on April 18, 2009, 10:37:08 PM: Quote from: Drewsy on April 18, 2009, 10:25:51 PM
drug wars on the ti-83 was and will always be better

if only for the fact that its not on the nintendo ds

[youtube=560,345]aWG9nUK75-Q[/youtube]
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: drew on April 18, 2009, 11:12:03 PM: oh fuck me
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: pilonv1 on April 20, 2009, 12:37:52 AM: i was hoping for prole to come in and tell me how good pokemon platinum was :'(
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: MCD on April 20, 2009, 12:54:09 AM: what happened to that rpg, World Destruction ?

it looked kinda cool.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: Bebpo on April 20, 2009, 01:41:50 AM: Quote from: MCD on April 20, 2009, 12:54:09 AM
what happened to that rpg, World Destruction ?

it looked kinda cool.

US version is 2010 and is undergoing huge changes from the Japanese version which was borked as hell in the gameplay balance department, making the game near unplayable.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: MCD on April 20, 2009, 01:53:31 AM: as long as they fix it i'm cool.
Title: Re: Pick a DS RPG for me
Post by: ch1nchilla on April 21, 2009, 02:16:33 AM: DQV was the right choice :)

After reading this thread, I'm gonna pick up TWEWY at the beginning of next month. :hyper :hyper :hyper