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Title: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 12:08:09 AM
wolverine was fucking awful.

I cannot begin to go into detail because I don't know where to start - but somebody should abduct Gavin Hood and rape him with a cactus 'till he agrees to never direct ever again.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: pilonv1 on May 03, 2009, 12:10:09 AM
all sessions were sold out when i went last night. so glad i saw the boat that rocked instead

Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 12:14:25 AM
I urge people to voluntarily contract swine flu than see this steaming pile.

Look, we all know I'm pretty lenient to movies that play to the lowest common denominator - but this movie was fucking insulting and that's when I draw the line.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: E-DuB on May 03, 2009, 12:18:17 AM
I said in the other thread that I had no intention of seeing this movie but I was out with a former co-worker having dinner and we decided on a whim to check it out. There were some okay parts but it was as bad as I thought it would be.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: pilonv1 on May 03, 2009, 12:19:01 AM
we had free tickets come for it to work and i passed. i was more interested in the night at the museum 2 tickets and i never saw the first one
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 03, 2009, 12:23:09 AM
Wolverine will be a great rental.

I went and saw State of Play instead. Good thriller.


Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 12:23:48 AM
I think the only part that I liked was the opening credits sequence and Liev as Sabretooth was pretty entertaining.

That said, the very first scene is TERRIBLE.

And we get not one, but TWO shots of the titular character shouting, "Nooooooooo!!!" into the sky as the camera pulls away.

Really?

Really?!
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Mandark on May 03, 2009, 01:25:02 AM
Ryan Reynolds!

If that's not a giant neon warning sign I don't know what is.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Grecco on May 03, 2009, 01:29:03 AM
Ryan Renolds (Well his 10 minutes at the begining) are the best part of this shit.

Worst comic book movie ever.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Himu on May 03, 2009, 01:29:04 AM
i saw it.

the best thing about the movie was the food I ate while watching it.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 03, 2009, 01:34:22 AM
Ryan Reynolds is a fantastic actor and is the only person I can see pulling off a Deadpool. If only he did more action movies.

[youtube=560,345]oAPdvyJnJzc[/youtube]
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Post by: Kara on May 03, 2009, 01:35:39 AM
Wolverine will be a great rental.

I went and saw State of Play instead. Good thriller.

Had you seen the miniseries?
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Diunx on May 03, 2009, 01:36:59 AM
We should all just shoot each other in the head and forget this movie.

edit: I don't know why people keep saying that Reynolds would be the perfect Deadpool, he was horrible in this movie and I have never seen a good movie with him on it, I hope they get someone else if they decide to do a Deadpool movie.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 01:49:58 AM
Ryan Reynolds was definitely not the weak link in this production.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 03, 2009, 01:52:07 AM
Why do people act like he's the only quirpy, annoying white guy who could play Deadpool in a movie?
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Grecco on May 03, 2009, 01:53:46 AM
Because he can do quirky annoying white guy thing well? Like that Blade movie.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 01:54:34 AM
Because Dane Cook is too expensive!
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Diunx on May 03, 2009, 01:55:18 AM
Ryan Reynolds was definitely not the weak link in this production.

He wasn't the strong one either.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Grecco on May 03, 2009, 01:57:11 AM
Ryan Reynolds was definitely not the weak link in this production.

He wasn't the strong one either.

there wasnt a strong anything
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 03, 2009, 02:07:47 AM
Is it worse than Australia?
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 03, 2009, 02:16:34 AM
I have a mancrush on ryan reynolds. Shutup guys, k?
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Himu on May 03, 2009, 02:20:39 AM
gambit is as distinguished mentally-challenged as ever in this movie btw
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Diunx on May 03, 2009, 02:37:19 AM
Ryan Reynolds is a fantastic actor and is the only person I can see pulling off a Deadpool. If only he did more action movies.

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<3 Ryan <3

no homo tho

We should all just shoot each other in the head and forget this movie.

edit: I don't know why people keep saying that Reynolds would be the perfect Deadpool, he was horrible in this movie and I have never seen a good movie with him on it, I hope they get someone else if they decide to do a Deadpool movie.

Name one person that can play Deadpool, realistically.

Delivery is key.

Delivery was exactly where Reynolds failed in this movie, he was slow and boring, I know that he can be funny based on his Blade character but he didn't prove it in this movie.

and pretty much any young actor with good timing can play deadpool, if they do it right the most important thing would be the voice not how the actor looks like.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: TVC15 on May 03, 2009, 02:39:09 AM
Worst comic book movie ever.

Daredevil?
Elektra?
Catwoman?
Superman Returns?

So is this better or worse than X3?  Or about on par?
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Kara on May 03, 2009, 02:41:48 AM
I saw Catwoman in Mexico

GATOBELLA
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Diunx on May 03, 2009, 02:43:19 AM
Gatubela :-*
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Himu on May 03, 2009, 03:08:29 AM
Worst comic book movie ever.

Daredevil?
Elektra?
Catwoman?
Superman Returns?

So is this better or worse than X3?  Or about on par?

better than x3 but not by much
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Mandark on May 03, 2009, 03:16:44 AM
Where's this Ryan Reynolds love coming from?  He's soooooooo bad.

Next thing you know EB's gonna have a Josh Hartnett Defense Force.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Mandark on May 03, 2009, 03:21:56 AM
Honestly, it'd be easier to understand if it were "lots of homo".
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Eric P on May 03, 2009, 03:23:49 AM
ryan renolds is ok depending on what he's doing and what he's in

blade trinity was shittastic and it brought everyone involved down to some horrific level

adventureland he was good in

loved him in waiting where the expectations of the actor and the character were flipped back onto the audience
Title: Eric P uses nonplus. It's super effective!
Post by: Mandark on May 03, 2009, 03:32:22 AM
Waiting?  Really?
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 03, 2009, 03:45:47 AM
blade trinity was shittastic and it brought everyone involved down to some horrific level

except for Parker Posey who was incredible as always :-[
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 03, 2009, 04:13:31 AM
 :heartbeat Ryan Reynolds :heartbeat
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 03, 2009, 04:20:51 AM
Ryan Reynolds is like a funny Dane Cook.  Dane Cook is uneligible for mancrush status because he's never funny.
<3Ryan
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: TVC15 on May 03, 2009, 04:44:09 AM
Wait, is that Ryan Reynolds on the cover of Waiting?  I seriously thought that was Dane Cook.  Are we sure that they don't have some real life Wolverine/Sabretooth connection? Weapon Shitty X maybe?
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: pilonv1 on May 03, 2009, 06:28:27 AM
all this ryan reynolds talk is making me wonder if theres a two guys a girl and a pizza place dvd
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 09:22:00 AM
Shit script, crapping on chronology, raping characters. Shit photography, cheesy directing, shit action sequences. There's like one decent action sequence...


Title: Re: Eric P uses nonplus. It's super effective!
Post by: Eric P on May 03, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
Waiting?  Really?

yes quite.

he's built up as this sort of "hipper than thou" affable loser, the likes of which we've seen many many many times before and midway through the film there is an excellent scene where in the character is ripped to absolute shreds socially and the character doesn't really recover for the rest of film and actually goes on to show a degree of growth.

it's couched in all of the gross out comedy cliches and goes on to fulfill many of them, but there is also a kind of awareness and intelligence which places it outside the film it could have been.

Wait, is that Ryan Reynolds on the cover of Waiting?  I seriously thought that was Dane Cook. 


...yeah he's in the film too in thankfully a bit part.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: cool breeze on May 03, 2009, 11:25:48 AM
The guy who played Ziggy in The Wire should play Deadpool, only after he is roided up.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 12:35:05 PM
The worst part is that Deadpool really does have adamantium swords that come from his hands and shoots lasers and can teleport and has no mouth and is REMOTELY CONTROLLED BY WILLIAM STRYKER.

He literally types in "DECAPITATE" in a computer to command Deadpool to cut off Wolverine's head. :lol

Gambit creates a whole new subverse in awful character integration.  The character really doesn't resemble his comic book form (Eric P smiles!), but instead - is much worse (Eric P frowns).  They ditch the cajun accent and sexist remarks for California, stupid douchebag that serves absolutely no purpose is and is horribly annoying.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: cool breeze on May 03, 2009, 12:42:27 PM
you forgot the line about how he's Deadpool because they 'pooled' together all the other mutant powers into him. 
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Eric P on May 03, 2009, 12:43:28 PM
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, stupid douchebag that serves absolutely no purpose is and is horribly annoying.

sounds like they really captured the essence of what makes Gambit work though
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Diunx on May 03, 2009, 12:46:44 PM
The worst part is that Deadpool really does have adamantium swords that come from his hands and shoots lasers and can teleport and has no mouth and is REMOTELY CONTROLLED BY WILLIAM STRYKER.

He literally types in "DECAPITATE" in a computer to command Deadpool to cut off Wolverine's head. :lol

Gambit creates a whole new subverse in awful character integration.  The character really doesn't resemble his comic book form (Eric P smiles!), but instead - is much worse (Eric P frowns).  They ditch the cajun accent and sexist remarks for California, stupid douchebag that serves absolutely no purpose is and is horribly annoying.

I love how when wolvie is about to kill sabertooth gambits breaks the fight and start attacking wolverine instead of the guy that capture him and put him on the fucking island, then he proceeds to climb walls with his stick.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 12:46:50 PM
Lawl.

Some of the effects were embarrassing.  The shot of Logan checking out his new adamantium claws for the first time is so awful that the audience was laughing.  I don't get it - Fox has been milking this character for four films now and we somehow get effects shots that are worse than those done almost ten years ago?

Also, people laughed at Professor X at the end.  It was so creepy and fake - like if they photoshopped Patrick Stewart's face on a stunt double.  The creepy, child molestor smile had me rolling as dozens of kids ran into his helicopter. :lol

(Also, why was he walking?)
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 12:49:45 PM
I love how when wolvie is about to kill sabertooth gambits breaks the fight and start attacking wolverine instead of the guy that capture him and put him on the fucking island, then he proceeds to climb walls with his stick.

This just made me hate Gambit more.  He goes on this whole spiel that he won't help Logan find "the island" (by the way, the twist on that was so fucking lame) because he never wants to go back - and then attacks Logan before he's about to kill Sabretooth?  The guy, whom from all accounts, originally incarcerated Gambit?

He then goes on some revenge rant about never going back, as if he is TOTALLY OBLIVIOUS to the film being shot around him (maybe that's how all the actors were on set) and then we get the dumbest fight scene in recent memory.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 12:53:42 PM
I don't know why, but i always figured Gambit as this sort of prince of thieves, smooth criminal, with a sort of latin accent.

What i got was a football player from texas. And it doesn't even make sense for him to be in that time period anyway.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 12:59:40 PM
I don't know why, but i always figured Gambit as this sort of prince of thieves, smooth criminal, with a sort of latin accent.

What i got was a football player from texas. And it doesn't even make sense for him to be in that time period anyway.

Gambit = (http://photos-f.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v357/21/73/7926076/n7926076_48520685_3999.jpg)
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 01:02:56 PM
What's up with the flying cards anyway? Does gambit have telekinesis too?
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on May 03, 2009, 01:12:45 PM
Somehow wolverine was worse than I was expecting, and I was expecting a huge turd sandwich.

Also, that scene I was in with Gambit (riggins aka Kitsch) above was pretty ridiculous. Most of FNL is just improve and actors going off on tangent anyway, but nobody could understand a word gambit was saying.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: brawndolicious on May 03, 2009, 01:27:12 PM
It was really good if you took it as seriously as The Punisher movies.  It is a very, very bad story but it's a really good action movie.  There was hardly any effort put into exposition, the movie is just pure action and it's very enjoyable in that way.

I really didn't like that they stitched up Deadpool's mouth though.  He somewhat barely breaks the fourth wall after the credits ended though.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on May 03, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
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but it's a really good action movie. 

No it wasnt.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Diunx on May 03, 2009, 01:36:00 PM
I'm sorry nintenho but your taste in good action is shit, the action on this movie was incredibly bad, shitty cg, horrible choreographed fight scenes, wolverine boxing the blob? horrible movie no matter what way you see it.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 01:36:41 PM
Uh..no, simply no, fuck no.

Matrix Reloaded, Bad Boys 2, Shoot Em up, etc, those are "really good action movies", as in if you don't care about the stupid story, you came away happy.

Wolverine was not a good action movie, because the action was shit. How can an action movie be good, if the action is shit? Unless your idea of good action is the kind of shit you could watch on smallville.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 03, 2009, 01:40:16 PM
$87,000,000  :-\
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: brawndolicious on May 03, 2009, 01:42:32 PM
The blob fight wasn't an action scene.  The good action scenes were the parts in Africa, against Sabertooth in the bar, the helicopter chase, and the whole Deadpool fight at the end.  Everything else was totally forgettable.

If you really want to get mad at something, the guy who plays Deadpool is only 18 and married to Scarlett Johansson.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on May 03, 2009, 01:44:31 PM
You just mentioned most of the shitty parts in the movie.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on May 03, 2009, 01:45:04 PM
The best part of the movie was the terminator trailer.
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Post by: Diunx on May 03, 2009, 01:50:28 PM
Those where all shit action scenes.
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Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 01:55:45 PM
Wolverine vs the hummer was cool...but that's about it.

150 million $, lol. Transformers was made for 150 million dollars, War of the Worlds too for example. I mean, it's amazing, how shit of a production team, and how shit of a director this movie had.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 03, 2009, 01:59:08 PM
150 million $, lol. Transformers was made for 150 million dollars, War of the Worlds too for example. I mean, it's amazing, how shit of a production team, and how shit of a director this movie had.

Iron Man actually cost LESS than Wolverine.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 02:03:16 PM
Honestly, Iron Man is another one of those movies, much like Wolverine and Quantum of Solace, where independently of the quality of the final movie, i think to myself "How the hell did they spend this much money?".

Love Iron Man, but having almost the same budget as a Transformers and a Dark Knight, i don't understand where the money went. For example, Quantum of Solace cost 200 million dollars, i mean what the fuck
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Diunx on May 03, 2009, 02:05:19 PM
Xmen 2 cost less and was made like 10 years ago and still had a better teleporter fight than this turd, the black eyes peas guy vs sabertooth was lol
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Reb on May 03, 2009, 02:05:56 PM
If you really want to get mad at something, the guy who plays Deadpool is only 18 and married to Scarlett Johansson.

Ryan Reynolds (I)
Date of Birth:
23 October 1976, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: brawndolicious on May 03, 2009, 02:13:10 PM
Actually apparently he was just working in movies for 18 years.

Anyways, this is a movie where you can only enjoy it if you turn off your brain and laugh at how over the top and cheesy it was.  You can't watch it if you don't do that.

Iron Man was only tolerable when RDJ was on screen.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 02:19:03 PM
Dude, you cannot enjoy this movie for anything.  The action blew and the movie was so cliche that this should be screened in Filmmaking 101 on how to NOT make a genre film.

Who the fuck storyboarded this steaming pile?
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Diunx on May 03, 2009, 02:19:53 PM
Actually apparently he was just working in movies for 18 years.

Anyways, this is a movie where you can only enjoy it if you turn off your brain and laugh at how over the top and cheesy it was.  You can't watch it if you don't do that.

Iron Man was only tolerable when RDJ was on screen.

Even in brain dead mode this movie is still distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 02:20:20 PM
I wholeheartedly agree and this is coming from someone who liked Transformers.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Diunx on May 03, 2009, 02:22:43 PM
I liked Punisher war zone and still hate this movie.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 02:27:42 PM
This was worse than Man-Thing (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290747/).
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 02:27:46 PM
There's cheesy, and then there's wolverine walking away from a badly green screen scene, like the helicopter explosion. That's like puke inducing.

And wtf happened to Wolverine's hair? cmon.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: ManaByte on May 03, 2009, 04:01:03 PM
You couldn't pay me to see this.

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Unleper me.
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Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Powerslave on May 03, 2009, 04:06:12 PM
I still want to see this movie despite the shit it gets.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: GilloD on May 03, 2009, 04:48:43 PM
If the movie was half as awesome as the game demo we'd be cool.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 03, 2009, 04:51:40 PM
Love Iron Man, but having almost the same budget as a Transformers and a Dark Knight, i don't understand where the money went. For example, Quantum of Solace cost 200 million dollars, i mean what the fuck

Yeah, that actually was an issue I had with the movie. That aside, I'd much rather they spent that money making a new Iron Man movie than on this steaming pile.

Also, Speed Racer cost way less than Wolverine.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 03, 2009, 05:05:33 PM
This was worse than Man-Thing (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290747/).
ouch.

There is a bright side to Wolverine's now apparent success (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/) is that movie studios can't legitimately bitch and moan quite so much about piracy being the silent killer.  As a known and proven shitburger just cleaned up this weekend.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 05:09:52 PM
Here's the problem, the success of Wolverine was built on brand strength, which went from deteriorating to now completely gone.  The next X-Men flick they pump out into theaters is going to bomb and I'm pretty sure if this abortion wasn't labeled as a stand alone Wolverine film - that would've happened this weekend.

Again, how many properties does Tim Rothman get to run into the ground before he gets the boot?  He's leveraged the few stable horses FOX has for short term gains at the sake of long term growth.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Oblivion on May 03, 2009, 05:31:41 PM
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, stupid douchebag that serves absolutely no purpose is and is horribly annoying.

sounds like they really captured the essence of what makes Gambit work though

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Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: TVC15 on May 03, 2009, 06:23:40 PM
Anyone want to guess at final US box office or how big next week's drop will be?  While it hasn't been mostly positive, I've been surprised at how many people I've sen (online) say that they enjoyed it, at least compared to the leak.  From the impressions of the leak, I figured this would be completely unlikable.

Also, the piracy appears to not have affected the box office, at least that much.  It opened higher than X1 and X2 (but not 3).  I'd expect an opening weekend drop after X3.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: bork on May 03, 2009, 06:36:30 PM
And yet this movie was still better than X3.

It's a shame what happened to X-Men.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 06:40:20 PM
If the movie was half as awesome as the game demo we'd be cool.

Full game is repetitive as hell, and the story sucks as much, or even more donkey ass than the movie.

And yet this movie was still better than X3.

I don't even think that's true. X Men 3 did have a set piece or two that were at the very least, visually impressive. Wolverine has none.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Fresh Prince on May 03, 2009, 06:42:16 PM
I hope this movie shitbins Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool now.

:bow Vin Diesel :bow2
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 06:46:36 PM
I hope this movie shitbins Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool now.

:bow Vin Diesel :bow2

About 0.32% of people might, might, voice the same opinion as you. Ryan Reynolds hasn't been pinpointed as one of the movies problems, by almost anyone. Actually, even deadpool fans like him as Deadpool.

So if they make a spin off..it's gonna be Reynolds.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Fresh Prince on May 03, 2009, 06:55:00 PM
Am I bothered?
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 03, 2009, 07:25:51 PM
Here's the problem, the success of Wolverine was built on brand strength, which went from deteriorating to now completely gone.  The next X-Men flick they pump out into theaters is going to bomb and I'm pretty sure if this abortion wasn't labeled as a stand alone Wolverine film - that would've happened this weekend.

Again, how many properties does Tim Rothman get to run into the ground before he gets the boot?  He's leveraged the few stable horses FOX has for short term gains at the sake of long term growth.

You're banking on a movie going public devoid of taste and discretion making an adjustment that there is no suggestion they're ready to make.  These movies have a rabid, built in fanthing base that will go to see them just so they can bitch about them... like, I don't know, most of the forumgoers around here.

Have some fucking respect for your eyes, people.  Quit seeing movies that are blatantly going to be shit.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 07:30:11 PM
I don't understand how that prick Rothman or whatever his name is, get's to keep his job, when FOX keeps releasing shit after shit.

Daredevil was killed, Fantastic Four was killed, X Men is on the verge of getting killed, Dragon Ball was a super bomb, Australia was a bomb, Street Fighter....

Jesus Christ. Best movie they've released was Taken, and that isn't even theirs really, they didn't produce it. But i'm sure James Cameron is gonna turn Avatar into a billion hit, because it will be the go to 3d movie for like a full year.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Fresh Prince on May 03, 2009, 07:40:52 PM
Lowest common denominator something something...
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 07:45:18 PM
How is it possible? How can so many shitty, uncreative people be making millions of dollars to write and direct and produce movies based on beloved, decades-old characters and storylines? And yet people say that the level of competition to break into Hollywood is almost impossibly high. How can this be? You'd think with all the alleged creativity in this world that shit like this wouldn't happen.

The amount of shit directors in Hollywood for example, is amazing. But that's just how it goes, it's not about how good you are, it's about who you know.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: CHOW CHOW on May 03, 2009, 08:37:10 PM
made $87 million over the weekend

on one hand, i'm happy the x-men franchise continues to do well, on the other...im sad that it was buoyed by terribly reviewed film like this which could hurt the franchise in the long run
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 03, 2009, 08:54:02 PM
Does anyone know how the final version compares to the leaked workprint? I'd understood the leaked version was the one that made executives shit their pants and order reshoots, not sure how much of that is true. (or how adding 10 minutes to a turd is gonna make it not a turd)
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: brawndolicious on May 03, 2009, 10:47:29 PM
Here's the problem, the success of Wolverine was built on brand strength, which went from deteriorating to now completely gone.  The next X-Men flick they pump out into theaters is going to bomb and I'm pretty sure if this abortion wasn't labeled as a stand alone Wolverine film - that would've happened this weekend.

Again, how many properties does Tim Rothman get to run into the ground before he gets the boot?  He's leveraged the few stable horses FOX has for short term gains at the sake of long term growth.

You're banking on a movie going public devoid of taste and discretion making an adjustment that there is no suggestion they're ready to make.  These movies have a rabid, built in fanthing base that will go to see them just so they can bitch about them... like, I don't know, most of the forumgoers around here.

Have some fucking respect for your eyes, people.  Quit seeing movies that are blatantly going to be shit.
Yeah, if this wasn't already a hugely popular comic book series that already had a successful movie trilogy, then I would have been disappointed by this movie.

If instead they had made a Doom Patrol movie of this quality, I wouldn't be willing to cut it any slack on the crappy writing and horrible dialogue.  This is fun for what it is which is not much more than matinee price.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 03, 2009, 10:48:25 PM
With your ability to construct such absurd logic pretzels, you really ought to be a Republican, nintenho.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 10:54:50 PM
I disagree that these films will make bank no matter the quality based on built-in fanbase.  That logic never pans out, Triumph.  Even hot geek properties with built-in fanbases can't rake in the cash if the property is too niche or mediocre or what have you.  We've seen it over and over again.

X-Men established itself and Fox has been driving it into the ground ever since.  As stated before, I'm pretty sure a X-Men 4 sequel would do poorly considering the mixed reaction to the last installment, but doing a stand alone film around the most popular character was a safe bet.

Except they screwed even that up.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 11:00:50 PM
Wolverine is a really big name. I'm sure people were all willing to give it a chance, but considering how bad it is, i'm pretty sure X Men has lost a lot of faith from movie viewers.

Spiderman 3 did bank like a bitch, but poor word of mouth had people not excited about a sequel, the studio wasn't in any hurry for a sequel because of it, and drop from weekend to weekend was big.

Wolverine is bigger than Iron Man but it will do worse in the end. Good word of mouth effect -> Batman Begins to Dark Knight. Example of bad word of mouth doing damage even if the movie does bank -> Van Helsing. That movie made 300 and something million, but the franchise was killed before it took off.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 11:03:31 PM
Yeah, like I said, Fox leveraged the property for short term gains against long term growth.  The end result is that this franchise is, for the most part, now officially put to bed.  Any future prequels or sequels are not going to touch the numbers its predecessors put up.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 03, 2009, 11:05:10 PM
I hope FOX has the balls to do a Magneto and a Gambit spin off, at the same time, and really put some heavy $ behind it. Just so they can bomb harder than Hiroshima.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 03, 2009, 11:06:30 PM
Ryan Renolds (Well his 10 minutes at the begining) are the best part of this shit.

Worst comic book movie ever.

I saw a better movie with Ryan Reynolds yesterday: Adventureland. Also saw Revanche yesterday which is OMFGAWESOME.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 03, 2009, 11:06:32 PM
I really don't want a Magneto movie, mixing the Holocaust with a comic book movie just comes across as distasteful
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 03, 2009, 11:07:56 PM
I really don't want a Magneto movie, mixing the Holocaust with a comic book movie just comes across as distasteful

I heard the latest draft nixes the Holocaust in favor of moving the whole thing into the 60's.

Quote
In December 2004, 20th Century Fox hired screenwriter Sheldon Turner to draft a spin-off X-Men film, and he chose to write Magneto, pitching it as "The Pianist meets X-Men."[28] In April 2007, David S. Goyer was hired to direct.[29] Turner said the script was set from 1939 to 1955,[30] and it follows Magneto trying to survive in Auschwitz. He meets Xavier, a soldier, during the liberation of the camp. He hunts down the Nazi war criminals who tortured him, and this lust for vengeance turns him and Xavier into enemies.[29]

The film was planned to shoot in Australia for a 2009 release,[31][32] but it was delayed by the 2007-2008 Writers Guild of America strike.[33] In April 2008, concept art, including one of a younger Beast, was being designed.[34] In June 2008, the X-Men Origins prefix also applied to Wolverine was confirmed, and the project was seeking approval to film in Washington, D.C.[35] By December 2008, Goyer said filming would begin if Wolverine was successful. The story was moved forward to 1961, and involves Xavier and Magneto battling a villain.[36]
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 11:12:10 PM
Wolverine was set in the 70s, but you'd never know it.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Mr. Gundam on May 03, 2009, 11:13:12 PM
Wolverine was set in the 70s, but you'd never know it.

I was going to ask about the time period the movie was supposedly set in, thanks for answering before I even asked!

X-men 3 pissed me off royally. I'm not sure if I'll ever see Wolverine.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 03, 2009, 11:17:15 PM
I'd pay good money to see a Wolverine movie REALLY set in the 70s - with disco and rollerskating and rampant drug use.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 03, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
I really don't want a Magneto movie, mixing the Holocaust with a comic book movie just comes across as distasteful

I heard the latest draft nixes the Holocaust in favor of moving the whole thing into the 60's.

Quote
In December 2004, 20th Century Fox hired screenwriter Sheldon Turner to draft a spin-off X-Men film, and he chose to write Magneto, pitching it as "The Pianist meets X-Men."[28] In April 2007, David S. Goyer was hired to direct.[29] Turner said the script was set from 1939 to 1955,[30] and it follows Magneto trying to survive in Auschwitz. He meets Xavier, a soldier, during the liberation of the camp. He hunts down the Nazi war criminals who tortured him, and this lust for vengeance turns him and Xavier into enemies.[29]

The film was planned to shoot in Australia for a 2009 release,[31][32] but it was delayed by the 2007-2008 Writers Guild of America strike.[33] In April 2008, concept art, including one of a younger Beast, was being designed.[34] In June 2008, the X-Men Origins prefix also applied to Wolverine was confirmed, and the project was seeking approval to film in Washington, D.C.[35] By December 2008, Goyer said filming would begin if Wolverine was successful. The story was moved forward to 1961, and involves Xavier and Magneto battling a villain.[36]


I don't think the entire topic is off limits as Nazi's are near ideal comic book villians, but seriously going portraying their atrocities just to add depth to a popcorn flick ain't cool

Plus the whole "Mutants as metaphor for any persecuted minority" is so obvious it doesn't need Jews in WWII to hammer it home.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 03, 2009, 11:41:11 PM
Whatever, when even shit like Ghost Rider can pull in more than 100 million, these turds will keep getting churned out.  You people that payed your hard earned scrilla to go see this when you KNEW it was going to suck are part of the problem.

"Hey, that Wolverine movie is coming out.  It looks awful, we should see it and post about how awful it is on the internets."
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 03, 2009, 11:44:39 PM
What's the general word of mouth like on this? I can see it opening strong and that doesn't affect my faith in humanity, but if people continue to go see it that's a different story.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Mandark on May 03, 2009, 11:44:50 PM
$100 million isn't a huge landmark anymore, though.

A sequel to a bad comic book movie based on a major franchise will make a lot of money.  But it won't make a lot of money by summer tent-pole standards, and it won't make enough money to be worth it for the studios.

Look at the Schumacher Batmans (Batmen?).
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Eric P on May 03, 2009, 11:49:01 PM
[Also saw Revanche yesterday which is OMFGAWESOME.

this is playing nyc and i'm totally all about it
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: pilonv1 on May 04, 2009, 12:01:57 AM
WHAT THE FUCK GAMBIT ISNT EVEN CAJUN? :maf :maf

i am boycotting this like Transformers out of principle
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 04, 2009, 12:06:18 AM
pilon appears to get it.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 04, 2009, 12:25:59 AM
Example of bad word of mouth doing damage even if the movie does bank -> Van Helsing. That movie made 300 and something million, but the franchise was killed before it took off.

Man, I hated that movie. I think I made it through about 45 minutes before I left the room in disgust.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: brawndolicious on May 04, 2009, 12:32:45 AM
The second transformers movie actually looks even worse than the first.  My friend shouted at the screen when that trailer came up.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: pilonv1 on May 04, 2009, 01:32:55 AM
HOW THE FUCK CAN GAMBIT NOT BE CAJUN?

It's like Wolverine not having claws
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: brawndolicious on May 04, 2009, 02:08:15 AM
What do you mean?  He has a very thick Louisiana accent.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: pilonv1 on May 04, 2009, 02:58:41 AM
was going by wilcos post on the previous page, obviously i havent seen it
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 04, 2009, 08:25:28 AM
A lot of the word of mouth from friends, family, and coworkers for this movie seem to be pretty positive overall.  Nobody knows or cares who Deadpool is so whether this guy was botched or not (it was played by Ryan Reynolds, so it is assumed to be shit) didn't really make a difference except a few thousand dollars less from the hurting hindquarter contingency on the internet.

I'm going to see it for myself this week.  I don't read nor care to read the comics so I don't really know if it is faithful to the comics or not.  My past experience besides the movies was playing the characters in video games and watching the TV show in the early 90s.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 04, 2009, 09:10:54 AM
What do you mean?  He has a very thick Louisiana accent.

Uh, no he does not.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 04, 2009, 09:30:06 AM
HOW THE FUCK CAN GAMBIT NOT BE CAJUN?

It's like Wolverine not having claws

That's right, it's not latin i used to think, it's french. Because of the whole mon ami, and cherry and shit like that. Again, Texas Football player.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 04, 2009, 09:37:31 AM
Example of bad word of mouth doing damage even if the movie does bank -> Van Helsing. That movie made 300 and something million, but the franchise was killed before it took off.

Man, I hated that movie. I think I made it through about 45 minutes before I left the room in disgust.

I was bored out of my mind. I contemplated walking out half way through, but i was seeing it with my family. Would've been weird.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: pilonv1 on May 04, 2009, 10:09:42 AM
What do you mean?  He has a very thick Louisiana accent.

Uh, no he does not.

this is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. does he even use cards?
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 04, 2009, 10:33:02 AM
He does, but he apparently has telekinesis now, as he could make them levitate and stuff.

He also uses his staff to climb walls like a spider monkey.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: brawndolicious on May 04, 2009, 11:06:57 AM
Are you thinking that he had a bad accent or just no Louisiana accent whatsoever?  The latter would suggest that you have ADD or Alzheimer's or something cause you could definitely tell from that movie that he was a New Orleans local.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 04, 2009, 11:12:40 AM
I'd like to believe that they'd cast someone who could pull a somewhat passable cajun accent off as Gambit.

But then, you know, the only person around here saying the movie was any good is AM NINTENHO.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Ganhyun on May 04, 2009, 11:15:12 AM
I couldn't tell you anything about Gambit's accent or how bad/good Ryan Reynolds did as Deadpool. I refused to watch the movie.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 04, 2009, 11:16:27 AM
Hey look, somebody else that gets it.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: brawndolicious on May 04, 2009, 11:24:02 AM
It was worth watching for the cheesiness.  There were some ass-backwards plot twists and the dialogue in general is laughable so if you know exactly what you're going into, it's worth wasting an afternoon for.

Again though, the franchise was already run into the ground.  It can not be saved.  Your $9 wouldn't make them get somebody with a better accent.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 04, 2009, 12:09:49 PM
I can't think of a good xmen movie anyway.  I couldn't get into pop comics though.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 04, 2009, 12:45:30 PM
Hey look, somebody else that gets it.

Ugh

I believe i'm doing more than you. I pirated the shit out of it, and told people the movie it was shit, and not to go see it.

That does more harm than simply not seeing it, and not having an opinion.
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Diunx on May 04, 2009, 12:58:11 PM
Hey look, somebody else that gets it.

Ugh

I believe i'm doing more than you. I pirated the shit out of it, and told people the movie it was shit, and not to go see it.

That does more harm than simply not seeing it, and not having an opinion.

I did the same thing, the last bad movie that got my money was the first AVP
Title: Re: holy shit
Post by: Jansen on May 04, 2009, 02:23:31 PM
im going to go on record here and profess my manlove for ryan reynolds