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Title: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Oblivion on June 19, 2009, 02:51:18 PM
 :o

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Activision CEO Bobby Kotick has warned that the publisher “might have to stop supporting Sony” platforms.

“I'm getting concerned about Sony; the PlayStation 3 is losing a bit of momentum and they don't make it easy for me to support the platform. It's expensive to develop for the console, and the Wii and the Xbox are just selling better. Games generate a better return on invested capital on the Xbox than on the PlayStation,” he told The Times.

“They have to cut the price, because if they don't, the attach rates are likely to slow,” he added. “If we are being realistic, we might have to stop supporting Sony. When we look at 2010 and 2011, we might want to consider if we support the console — and the PSP too.”

Kotick, who said recently that he was disappointed the platform holders opted not to announce console price cuts at E3, also noted that Activision had paid Sony $500 million in royalties and other goods last year, which “probably still worked out at 400 percent of the profit they made.”

http://www.edge-online.com/news/activision-ceo-%E2%80%9Cwe-might-have-to-stop-supporting-sony%E2%80%9D
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: archie4208 on June 19, 2009, 02:57:57 PM
The fewer Guitar Hero games on the market, the better.

:bow Activision :bow2
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Bocsius on June 19, 2009, 03:06:28 PM
I never liked [insert name] anyway.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 19, 2009, 03:11:29 PM
Didn't both Call of Duty games sell over a million units on the system, though? :lol
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 19, 2009, 03:25:41 PM
Call of Duty 4 has sold very well on the PS3, especially in Europe. And I still think it's mildly comical that Activision, the company that has and continues to play favorites with content and services of that franchise, would complain about lopsided market performance. It's not the main contributor to the issue, obviously, but enough to make you feel that maybe Activision shouldn't be the one hollering about the problem.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: cool breeze on June 19, 2009, 03:34:39 PM
I never liked [insert name] anyway.

That's just indicative of how shitty Activision is.  But they have Blizzard and IW, so they still are relevant to me.  Plus they sell a shit ton of games, so if they do pull, then that would be pretty crazy for Sony.

Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 19, 2009, 03:39:23 PM
COD4 multiplayer was crack, that is for damned sure. But I'm getting plain too old for the SP format, and if I'm going to play another war game after COD4 and KZ2, it would have to be something like the original GR.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: maxy on June 19, 2009, 03:58:51 PM

Ah sfags are probably at full battle readiness...

Sony is this gen everybodys bitch...the funniest part is that they have to comply
Imagine MS getting COD exclusivity...it would turn already zombified PS3 into dust
Some people would literally throw their PS3 through the window... :lol

I remember IW saying that there are about 4 million unique PS3 users playing COD4,that would make 2 maybe 3 million sold to consumers. 

The funniest thing is that Activision could do it easily...

Its also funny that he mentions PSP,Sony has revealed its new strategy basically a week ago... :lol

I guess that he is not too impressed with PSP Go...



Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2009, 04:03:45 PM
there's nothing impressive about the psp go except the audacity of the pricepoint
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: ManaByte on June 19, 2009, 04:23:13 PM

Ah sfags are probably at full battle readiness...

Sony is this gen everybodys bitch...the funniest part is that they have to comply
Imagine MS getting COD exclusivity...it would turn already zombified PS3 into dust
Some people would literally throw their PS3 through the window... :lol

I remember IW saying that there are about 4 million unique PS3 users playing COD4,that would make 2 maybe 3 million sold to consumers. 

The funniest thing is that Activision could do it easily...

Its also funny that he mentions PSP,Sony has revealed its new strategy basically a week ago... :lol

I guess that he is not too impressed with PSP Go...





The sfags are now saying MAG will kill MW2. Except that they forget the 60-player Resistance 2 fucking bombed. How do they expect a 256 player MAG to do better?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: ManaByte on June 19, 2009, 04:41:55 PM
Some would argue that R2 bombed for different reasons. MAG is probably an easier sell too as it's more realistic in terms of setting.

But are there even 256 sfags on PSN to play it?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 19, 2009, 04:43:30 PM
Activision should shut the fuck up as the only reason they exist is because Sony sold them Neversoft and because Sony allowed them to publish THPS on PS1. Bunch of whiny fucking babies, no worse than the Xfags who are jerking off over this news. SMH.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 19, 2009, 04:49:53 PM
awesome

overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho

bye bye gamecube 2
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: maxy on June 19, 2009, 04:52:29 PM
there's nothing impressive about the psp go except the audacity of the pricepoint

Yeah i know,but still i thought that Sony did something behind closed doors so that publishers would be more willing to make games for it...
I guess that sudden surge in announced PSP games is more like...ah we will make couple of games for it,but that is all you got,your strategy sucks

As for MAG to me it looks like a hardcore niche title,depending how good the execution will be.

Its no competition to COD franchise.
No singleplayer is a big downfall too...
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: dammitmattt on June 19, 2009, 04:57:15 PM
awesome

overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho

bye bye gamecube 2

You're the only person that can get away with the Gamecube thing on GAF.  The rest have been banned.  I say go for it.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 19, 2009, 05:09:35 PM
Comparing the PS3 to the GameCube is ludicrous; the GCN, after being on the market for three years and floundering, only cost $99.

Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: dammitmattt on June 19, 2009, 05:19:34 PM
Comparing the PS3 to the GameCube is ludicrous; the GCN, after being on the market for three years and floundering, only cost $99.

And the GameCube was profitable.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 19, 2009, 05:20:24 PM
I didn't want to play Activision's games anyway, too sour.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: cool breeze on June 19, 2009, 05:27:04 PM
awesome

overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho

bye bye gamecube 2


Sony just started doing PSP-PS3 connectivity in games.  PS3 still needs to play PSP games on it before it can catch up with Gamecube levels of desperation.

I didn't want to play Activision's games anyway, too sour.

I never got why people boycott games.  People on gaf are saying that they won't be buying Modern Warfare 2 and things like that, as if those few people matter when CoD4 sold millions.

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Yeah i know,but still i thought that Sony did something behind closed doors so that publishers would be more willing to make games for it...
I guess that sudden surge in announced PSP games is more like...ah we will make couple of games for it,but that is all you got,your strategy sucks

at e3 sony said that they dropped development costs or something by 80%, so that might be the reason



 
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 19, 2009, 05:39:44 PM
That bit definitely reeks of Cubite. The path of justice (of the 4-year old sort), boycotting developers/publishers and games because they were "lazy" and didn't put a ton of work into ports, and so forth.

Of course, nothing beats "I'm boycotting this company, right after I buy this product of theirs!"
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: maxy on June 19, 2009, 05:41:04 PM
I think that PSP dev kits are 80% cheaper.
Not a problem for a big publishers...
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 19, 2009, 05:51:31 PM
3rd party games are an overthought on PS3

That's afterthought, not overthought.

Burn and die in a fire PLAYSTATION(TM) 3.

the PlayStation 3 isn't a bad console. It has a decent mix of first and third party games while being a kickass blu-ray player.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 19, 2009, 05:54:42 PM
Natal Effect
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 19, 2009, 06:02:37 PM
YES

Activision has mega fucking balls but is 100% right.

Sony should be treated like a dog this gen and, partly, is treated like that already: 3rd party games are an overthought on PS3, mostly by developers forced to make them with minimal effort.

Burn and die in a fire PLAYSTATION(TM) 3. You overpriced, slow, worse than 2 times cheaper console piece of shit.

And take your idiotic, rabid fans with you.

Why dont you go fuck off and die, or are you too busy playing MINDLESS SPACE SHOOTER EXCLUSIVE NUMBRE 2?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 19, 2009, 06:05:58 PM
Another new interesting trend I've spotted on that board over yonder is that, apparently, exclusive content doesn't matter after all.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 19, 2009, 06:52:48 PM
Even though I turned in my ninthing jacket years ago, this news fills my black heart with glee.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: brawndolicious on June 19, 2009, 07:09:53 PM
I think we'll see the PS3 slim and a not negligible price cut at TGS.  Right before the holidays.
awesome
overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho
bye bye gamecube 2
Why would Activision drop Wii support tho?  Aren't the best sellers just PS2 ports?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Beezy on June 19, 2009, 07:15:32 PM
I think we'll see the PS3 slim and a not negligible price cut at TGS.  Right before the holidays.
awesome
overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho
bye bye gamecube 2
Why would Activision drop Wii support tho?  Aren't the best sellers just PS2 ports?
...



Just in case you're not being sarcastic which I doubt you are, PS3 = GC2.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Oblivion on June 19, 2009, 07:16:35 PM
Another new interesting trend I've spotted on that board over yonder is that, apparently, exclusive content doesn't matter after all.

That's not new.


Also, when did Malek play video games?  :o
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 19, 2009, 07:24:33 PM
Boredom will cause you to do strange things.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: brawndolicious on June 19, 2009, 07:30:55 PM
I think we'll see the PS3 slim and a not negligible price cut at TGS.  Right before the holidays.
awesome
overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho
bye bye gamecube 2
Why would Activision drop Wii support tho?  Aren't the best sellers just PS2 ports?
...
Just in case you're not being sarcastic which I doubt you are, PS3 = GC2.
The "overpriced and underpowered" part was a bit confusing.

PS3 and GC have completely opposite problems though (at least hardware-wise).  At launch, GC was the most useful if you wanted to just mainly play games.  While PS3 was the most useful console for playing movies.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 19, 2009, 08:42:08 PM
Why remove Wi-Fi?  That's one of the least expensive components!
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 19, 2009, 08:49:58 PM
I don't think removing the HD is possible in terms of, I don't know, ACTUALLY PLAYING GAMES.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 19, 2009, 08:50:33 PM
Seriously, they probably pay a dollar at cost for Wi-Fi, dude.

They just need to develop better hardware and not be such idiots.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2009, 09:24:54 PM
ps3 go

no disc drive, 48gb SSD drive, download only games

Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 19, 2009, 09:34:33 PM
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Why dont you go fuck off and die, or are you too busy playing MINDLESS SPACE SHOOTER EXCLUSIVE NUMBRE 2?

you know what a makes a victory parade even better?

Defeated bronze medalist clown tear confette

Enjoy your underpowered Intel based PS4 in early 2011, it's the last sony platform and the last sony mistake.

3rd Party by August 2013

I don't understand you nerds who want less competition in the market place. Why do you want Sony gone? Have they violently raped your wife?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 19, 2009, 09:35:20 PM
a) one REAL console future
b) bitter fanthing tears
c) more bitter fanthing tears
d) kittonwy/wollan/hans suicide pact
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 19, 2009, 09:38:40 PM
Do you really want a Microsoft console being the only choice you have? I hope you enjoy the price gouging that will occur then.

Atleast Sony isn't gouging the customer for accesories :/.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 19, 2009, 09:39:29 PM
ps3 go

no disc drive, 48gb SSD drive, download only games



Price: $649.99
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Oblivion on June 19, 2009, 09:42:32 PM
Do you really want a Microsoft console being the only choice you have? I hope you enjoy the price gouging that will occur then.

?

The cheapest 360 sku is cheaper than a Wii. I'm pretty sure the PS3 wasn't the reason for MS dropping the price
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 19, 2009, 09:43:26 PM
I was talking about Xbox Live, The WiFi adapter, Hard drives, HD DVD Drive, plug and play kits, etc etc. None are required but all where insanely overpriced.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2009, 09:47:51 PM
ps3 go

no disc drive, 48gb SSD drive, download only games





Price: $649.99

thank you for swinging at that pitch
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 19, 2009, 10:06:44 PM
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Why dont you go fuck off and die, or are you too busy playing MINDLESS SPACE SHOOTER EXCLUSIVE NUMBRE 2?

you know what a makes a victory parade even better?

Defeated bronze medalist clown tear confette

Enjoy your underpowered Intel based PS4 in early 2011, it's the last sony platform and the last sony mistake.

3rd Party by August 2013

I don't understand you nerds who want less competition in the market place. Why do you want Sony gone? Have they violently raped your wife?

Why are you so quick to vehemently defend Sony? Is Sony your dad?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 19, 2009, 10:20:27 PM
Do you really want a Microsoft console being the only choice you have? I hope you enjoy the price gouging that will occur then.

Atleast Sony isn't gouging the customer for accesories :/.

I'd like to see a collaboration. Sony knows media, which shows with the PS3. It has also built up a great stable of development talent, and it would be a damned shame if that was to fall apart. And while I don't personally like the games, I have trouble seeing anyone else letting Team Ico do its thing. Oh yeah, and the death of Wipeout would be fucking horrible.

Also, while I love the way the PS3 has become more Xbox than the successor to Xbox itself in terms of media capabilities and being an all-inclusive media/gaming box, I don't think there is any escaping accessories in the next generation. I'm sure if Sony could go back and redo the system, it would, and that change would almost certainly involve accessories and standard hardware features.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 19, 2009, 10:28:17 PM
Do you really want a Microsoft console being the only choice you have? I hope you enjoy the price gouging that will occur then.

Atleast Sony isn't gouging the customer for accesories :/.

oh god YES I DO
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 19, 2009, 10:29:38 PM
It's time for MS and Sony to have a child.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: cool breeze on June 19, 2009, 10:34:12 PM
ps3 go

no disc drive, 48gb SSD drive, download only games



that would be pretty awesome because I could pass that up and still get the benefits of downloadable games

Sony is drowning and I'm reaping all the benefits  8)

Capcom, Ubisoft and EA should make their own console.  EA does non-games better than Nintendo, plus they have a bunch of awesome real games.  Ubisoft has awful non-games, but way awesome real games.  Capcom is Capcom.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 19, 2009, 10:38:51 PM
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Why dont you go fuck off and die, or are you too busy playing MINDLESS SPACE SHOOTER EXCLUSIVE NUMBRE 2?

you know what a makes a victory parade even better?

Defeated bronze medalist clown tear confette

Enjoy your underpowered Intel based PS4 in early 2011, it's the last sony platform and the last sony mistake.

3rd Party by August 2013

I don't understand you nerds who want less competition in the market place. Why do you want Sony gone? Have they violently raped your wife?

Why are you so quick to vehemently defend Sony? Is Sony your dad?

I'm not, I just don't understand these ra-ra-distinguished mentally-challenged fellows who think that the death of a major entity would be good for the business. The last thing M$ needs is another monopoly.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: ManaByte on June 19, 2009, 11:57:12 PM
Monopoly? Lol. Get you trolls from somewhere other than 90s usenet posts.

Thanks to Apple, Linux, Mozilla, Java etc the only people who complain about MS having any sort of monopoly these days are basement dwellers who are stuck in the 90s. 
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 12:07:19 AM
Or uninformed people who don't waste their time arguing petty arguments on the internet to know every competitor of Microshit.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: brawndolicious on June 20, 2009, 12:13:55 AM
Seriously, they probably pay a dollar at cost for Wi-Fi, dude.
They just need to develop better hardware and not be such idiots.
Well the new PS3 model there were some pics leaked of had smaller circuit boards and dies and whatnot right? I think that that would significantly reduce the cost of manufacturing it.

Do you really want a Microsoft console being the only choice you have? I hope you enjoy the price gouging that will occur then.

Atleast Sony isn't gouging the customer for accesories :/.
I think that if the playstation consoles did actually "die", all the sbots would blame MS when Nintendo actually did far more damage to the market.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: pilonv1 on June 20, 2009, 01:37:37 AM
Seriously, they probably pay a dollar at cost for Wi-Fi, dude.

$1 x 10,000,000 units = $10,000,000 saved.

Sony hardware + MS software = awesome. Then Nintendo would really be relegated to non-gaming status.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 20, 2009, 01:49:58 AM
Based off of the 360 and PS3, I'd like to see Sony handle the media viewing (and previewing) bit. Watching videos or listening to music is a hell of a lot more convenient and fluid on the PS3. Oh well, it's nice to want things.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: pilonv1 on June 20, 2009, 02:35:18 AM
have you tried using vidzone? hideos interface :yuck
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 20, 2009, 03:43:27 AM
I dont think the gamecube comparisons are very apt.  Gamecube was easy to develop on and had close performance to xbox games when it was played to its strengths.  It also was a profitable console even at 99 bucks, cus you know, Nintendo does engineering pretty swell.  If anything the Wii takes the concepts of barebones online support and a weird controller, but this time they market it correctly with nongames and apple plastic.

And anyone clamoring for a one console future are in for a disappointment when it happens.  I'm predicting a living room pc rig with a waggle wand.  I can't see the controller s template surviving after this E3.  When I say "pc" that includes all the media functions and ancillary roles.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 20, 2009, 04:39:28 AM
have you tried using vidzone? hideos interface :yuck

No, what's that? I'm talking more about the basic functionality of the system as a media viewer/player. Everything is fast, navigation is full featured and even previews are snappy. Between the odd good exclusives, my PS3 is the default media player, and for good reason. Still lacking in sorting and playlist options, though.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 20, 2009, 04:44:07 AM
God of War 2 upscaled  :hyper

:bow PS3 :bow2

spoiler (click to show/hide)
God of War 2 is such a "second game in the trilogy"
[close]
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 20, 2009, 04:46:07 AM
You haven't even fucking owned a PS3, Poltard.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 20, 2009, 04:50:07 AM
God of War 2 is meh, God of War 3 looks infinitely better. PS3 wins yet another one over the vastly overappreciated PS2. Typical Borys, wrong again. Better Wipeout game? Yup. Awesome Sucker Punch game? Totally. Better God of War? Absolutely. And of course, Uncharted 2 shits all over anything Naughty Dog ever did on PS2.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 20, 2009, 04:59:29 AM
amazing catalogue of amazing games

Sure, if you like crap

FFX-2

Precisely

All the PS3 needs now is a Sly game and we're set.

I wouldn't trade my PS2 for anything.

I would trade a PS2 for a PS3 with backwards compatibility, but hey.

:piss PS2 :piss2
:bow Xbox :bow2
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 20, 2009, 06:20:42 AM
Ugh, ps3 has dvd playback and a dualshock (now with rumble!) and plays ps2 games and is receiving legacy first party offerings.  And now it has better hard drive support and digital distribution to top it off.

I seriously think the only reason the system gets so much hate is because of its market failure status.  There's also a contradiction in the fact ps3 is hard to program for better results, so it gets visuals ranging from slightly worse to slightly better .   Yet no one doomed the ps2 because splinter cell was a jaggy muddy eyesore after the downgrade from xbox.  If everyone would stay off forums and buy games that interest them, we wouldn't be in this fabricated situation.  This is assuming one can enjoy something without nitpicking it to death.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 20, 2009, 06:21:40 AM
Are you trying to annoy me with your PS2 hate or are you for real? You are the first person, like ever, that doesn't aprreciate PS2, The King of Consoles.

Oh I have some Nintendo fan forums I'd like you to meet!
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 20, 2009, 10:50:34 AM
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Ugh, ps3 has dvd playback and a dualshock (now with rumble!) and plays ps2 games and is receiving legacy first party offerings.

lol
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 20, 2009, 11:16:24 AM
God of War 2 is meh, God of War 3 looks infinitely better.
name one thing that makes it look "infinitely better".

*crickets*

Atleast Sony isn't gouging the customer for accesories :/.
Because a DS3 at $55 is just the right price, lol
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 20, 2009, 11:23:19 AM
oh, i can guarantee they'll gouge for accessories when that saggle stick comes out
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: dammitmattt on June 20, 2009, 11:50:09 AM
God of War 2 is meh, God of War 3 looks infinitely better. PS3 wins yet another one over the vastly overappreciated PS2. Typical Borys, wrong again. Better Wipeout game? Yup. Awesome Sucker Punch game? Totally. Better God of War? Absolutely. And of course, Uncharted 2 shits all over anything Naughty Dog ever did on PS2.

God of War 3 is God of War 2 in HD with more enemies and more violence.  Based on what we've seen it's the exact same game.  How can you praise it while saying the second game was "meh?"  The PS2 had three awesome Sucker Punch games.  The PS2 had one great Jak game and two okay Jak games.  Uncharted is just a different type of game.  Oh, and the PS2 had about a hundred other great games.  You base your PS2 hate over 2 or 3 games while ignoring the rest of the catalog.

Uh ok. I'm hyped for GoW3 too. PS2 was not overappreciated, man. It is the perfect console. Perfect controller, DVD movies playback, amazing catalogue of amazing games, God of War 1&2, Dragon Quest 8, FFX-2 etc. I wouldn't trade my PS2 for anything.

No, it's not perfect.  The controller sucks for FPS and racing games.  The system was not reliable until they made the slim.  A lot of games had graphical issues for the first few years.  It had no great shooters, no great western RPGs, and was never that good at online.  Basically, the PS2 sucked at everything the Xbox excelled at, which was why they were such great complementary systems.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 20, 2009, 12:22:37 PM
God of War 2 is meh, God of War 3 looks infinitely better.
name one thing that makes it look "infinitely better".

*crickets*

It's a hell of a lot prettier, and the developer claims to be aware of precisely the things that made God of War 2 feel meh. If they can avoid going overboard with the amount and frequency of boss fights this time, then that's enough right there to make it infinitely better than God of War 2.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Although I can't say I'm too excited about another God of War, infinite superiority over God of War 2 be damned
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God of War 3 is God of War 2 in HD with more enemies and more violence.  Based on what we've seen it's the exact same game.

This makes no sense. There's a major boost in visual quality across the board, there are new scenarios, as well as "more enemies and more violence." How in the hell does that make for "the exact same game?"

Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 20, 2009, 12:53:44 PM
This makes no sense. There's a major boost in visual quality across the board, there are new scenarios, as well as "more enemies and more violence." How in the hell does that make for "the exact same game?"
I don't think he literally means it will be the exact same game, but that it will feature essentially unchanged gameplay and formulaic progression (to which I would agree).
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: cool breeze on June 20, 2009, 01:12:27 PM
I only hate the PS3 when I compare it to the PS2; I'm fine with my PS3 otherwise.  Maybe if it was my only system I would feel bitter, but I have a 360 and PC.  Most of the time I play my PS3, it's for PS3 exclusive games.  Unless there is some reason to get the PS3 version of a third party game, I always just go PC or 360 with it.  This gen kinda sucks because there isn't a successor to the PS2.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 20, 2009, 03:23:10 PM
A Nintard that thinks the PS3 is better than the PS2.  Well, this is a magical moment.

EmCee, isn't it infinitely more likely that the PS3 is doing poorly in the market because people don't like it for other valid reasons as opposed to the ass-backwards scenario you're proposing?

As to why the hate gets heaped on it on message boards like these, it's the same reason why Nintendo catches half the shit that they do: the fans of the company are as annoying as pure uncut fuck, and about as stupid as a bag of stale dogshit. 

I don't think it's magically better.  I just think objectively, its not magnitudes worse.  I'm seeing a very strong effort on the first party front.  Yet it falls on deaf ears because everyone is talking about how its yoy down in numbers or some shit.  We also have people oblivious to the fact that for anyway it comes up short of the 360, other things are a marked progression over ps2. The online and media functions are better than ps2 for instance.  Its no Live but its an improvement.

As for the king of all consoles:  I don't think we've had a flawless platform yet.  I'd like something with an xbox live imitator and a dual waggle wand standard personally.  PC gaming is silly.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 20, 2009, 04:09:14 PM
What technically hinders a ps3 more than a ps2?
What genre is not represented on ps3 that was represented on ps2?
If I was inclined towards an hd system, I think there's more variety on ps3.  What are my platforming choices on xbox?  Where would I get an hd srpg fix if not for disagea 3 and valkyria chronicles?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 20, 2009, 04:21:50 PM
The PS2 is probably the best system of all time.

Several classic titles that hold up well today, most genres were represented well.  You had your murder sims, your loli rape sims, your dancing game titles, your overwrought plot titles, etc.  It had it all and in a quantity that could keep you occupied for a while if your subgenre was all that you wanted.  It was also a full realization of 3D gaming where the graphics weren't outright offensive to look at (Saturn), blocky and/or jaggy (PlayStation), or blurry as fuck (Nintendo 64).  (Yeah, I left out the Dreamcast but its time was cut too short)  Things tended to look like things.  The technology was the first that allowed for wide open places to do shit in.

The PS3 had a lot of good ideas but ruined by the high price.  Any amends to gain marketshare is a day late and a dollar short at best, absolutely horrendous and at the worst.  It has some good things going for it (Bluray player, PS1 to PSP connectivity) but it has some things that make it terrible.  If they threw in PS2 compatibility again and dropped the price another $100, I'd bite.  I don't give a shit about MAG or Killzone 2 but the PS2 BC and the Bluray player with the promise of a couple things worth playing on the PS3 would make it worth my while.

While Activision's statement might be considered an empty threat, the fact that they're even being made is a sign that Sony is dead last without much hope of recovering.  Sony isn't in a financial position to make dramatic changes to the PS3 to improve the situation; so their only choice now is to take the beatings.  Fortunately Sfags are taking up the cause and are hoping to boycott Activision.  I'm sure the 500-1000 fewer copies of Modern Warfare 2 sold will make Activision eat their words.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 04:27:45 PM
Xbots are so hilarious. I really don't see why anÝone posting valid reasons on why the ps3 is shit compared to the 360 which has far worse problems.

PS3 bashing on evilbore? Who wouldve guessed

I seriously don't see why you all felate microsoft so much. What have they ever done that has been for their customer.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 20, 2009, 04:33:53 PM
nobody's doing any corporate entity blowing here, 360 is where the games are at. Their hardware quality is obviously shit, as was noted by Oscar and I am sure everyone else here agrees. 360 hardware is every bit the graphics powerhouse that the much touted PS3 is (as shown time and time again), except without the fanfare, and at an affordable price.

of course its hard to argue with someone that thinks MGS4 is a good game  :-\
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 20, 2009, 04:36:34 PM
Oscar- yet even one or two notable genre fixes is better than what the 360 has.  LBP looks like fun.  When it comes to platformers on 360 there's... lego banjo kazooie?  SRPGS are... operation darkness?  I don't know what's with the hostility.  I'm trying to keep it civil here.  The only ps3 genre I can't think of a notable entry is shmups, but most of those never leave the japanese xbla marketplace anyway.

edit: and of course its still a step back from ps2.  I'm just saying 360 is an xbox 1 with the samish library.  But it has some jrpgs and better online.  PS3 is an improvement on ps2 technically but with worse developer support,and Wii is a rebranded gamecube that the nerd world would ignore no matter how it turned out in the end.  The same people geeking out over natal?  "Fuck getting off my ass for bowling!" years prior.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: cool breeze on June 20, 2009, 04:39:31 PM
360 has a lot more problems than just faulty hardware; the PS3 has even more problems.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 04:55:05 PM
I don't think the PS3 has any problems except price. And whaþ are the "games" that þhe 360 has that makes you say thàt? Mass Effect is comiing to PS3 and Gears is rumored also so that leaves what Halo? The 3rd dropped off the charts faster than Killzone 2.

Speaking of Killzone, I've yet to see a 360 game come even close to the visual pleasures in that game
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Beezy on June 20, 2009, 05:01:54 PM
Mass Effect is comiing to PS3 and Gears is rumored also
::)
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Narag on June 20, 2009, 05:09:01 PM
I regretted my ps3 for a while but I'm appreciating it finally. Of course its for movies, psx, and ps2 games with no ps3 games in sight which makes the whole affair absurd.

The 3rd dropped off the charts faster than Killzone 2.

Halo 3 sold more than KZ3 last month, 2 years after its release.  :chicken
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 05:10:24 PM
I don't have smileys on EB Mobile so I assume its the rolling eyes smiley in which case I say to you that it was told behind closed doors that Mass Effect 2 WILL be on PS3.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 20, 2009, 05:12:16 PM
I regretted my ps3 for a while but I'm appreciating it finally.
Same here. I purchased a PS3 in Feb for KZ2 and I returned it less than 24 hours later. I wasn't prepared for the system to suck as much as it did.

However, seeing the great games coming to the system in the next year or so, I thought that now is the time to get a system so I repurchased the system. With such a great lineup I think people are going to gravitate towards the system, it just isn't going to be en masse as some fanboys will have you believe.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Beezy on June 20, 2009, 05:16:28 PM
I don't have smileys on EB Mobile so I assume its the rolling eyes smiley in which case I say to you that it was told behind closed doors that Mass Effect 2 WILL be on PS3.
I guess EB mobile doesn't show bolded text either. I rolled my eyes because you think that Gears will be on the PS3 someday because of a rumor.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 05:17:21 PM
How did the system "suck"? That makes no god damn sense. Especially if you based it off one game. That's like writing off the 360 based on Viva Pinata

SMH ::)
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 05:18:58 PM
Oh my bad beezy, yeah eb mobile doesn't do bold :(  but while it may be ludicrous, Gears 3 could come to PS3 since their exclusivity is up
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: ch1nchilla on June 20, 2009, 05:24:27 PM
I regretted my ps3 for a while but I'm appreciating it finally. Of course its for movies, psx, and ps2 games with no ps3 games in sight which makes the whole affair absurd.

The 3rd dropped off the charts faster than Killzone 2.

Halo 3 sold more than KZ3 last month, 2 years after its release.  :chicken

I have a PS3 again finally, sold my launch console when I finished Ridge Racer 7 and NGS. The PS3 that I have now was free, because I stole it from my dad, but I'm regretting that I even have it taking up space on my shelf. I think I'll regret it less once I get media streaming, etc. going, but right now it fucking sucks. Plus, I wasted $50 on a Dual Shock 2 and Little Big Holy Shit This Was a Tremendous Fucking Waste of Money, I Will Never Play This, What Was I Thinking Little Big Planet, which bums me out. I think I'll finally start to like my PS3 when that Trico or whatever game comes out, and FFXIII and XIV. Maybe I'll buy Final Fantasy VII as an attempt to justify the presence of my PS3 for now. As of right now, I use my PS2 more.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 20, 2009, 05:32:19 PM
How did the system "suck"? That makes no god damn sense.
sure it does.

-$400
-the system took at least an hour to update and install everything out of the box
-the dualshock is a piss poor controller for shooters
-killzone 2 (at least before the "precision mode" patch) controlled more poorly than any other shooter that I've played this generation.
-i don't remember what else, but I have numerous ranting posts in the KZ2 thread which voiced my opinion of the system at the time.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 05:33:36 PM
You sound like me regarding my Rock Band player.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 05:44:40 PM
So because of one game you wrote off the console...wow
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: ch1nchilla on June 20, 2009, 05:58:50 PM
So because of one game you wrote off the console...wow

Yeah, he's definitely selling the shit-assness of the PS3 short by only focusing on one aspect of its sheer awfulness, isn't he?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 06:03:38 PM
Oh STFU. None of the things he listed àre remotely logical as things that make it "shit" and most of them are him complainging because it isn't a exaÇt replica of the 360. That's just plain bullshit. Also beyond asinine.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 20, 2009, 06:11:28 PM
I will admit that it was entirely illogical to expect a qualitatively comparable experience on a console that cost twice. wtf was I thinking.

I bought a PS3 for KZ2 only, since there were no other significant games of interest only available on the system. When the top exclusive turned out to be sub-par, it forced my hand.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 06:13:11 PM
The mere fact that you bought a console for one game shows you are dumb and unsmart when it comes to responsible spending
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 20, 2009, 06:19:17 PM
lol

 :heartbeat ad hominem attack :heartbeat
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: dammitmattt on June 20, 2009, 06:31:16 PM
360 has a lot more problems than just faulty hardware; the PS3 has even more problems.

I'm struggling to come up with "a lot" of problems that the 360 has outside of the hardware.  The Guide lag sucks, but it's mitigated by the fact that the Guide is much better than anything else the competition has.  There's not many platformers, but that's a dying genre outside of Mario.  What am I missing here?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 20, 2009, 06:38:54 PM
360 has a lot more problems than just faulty hardware; the PS3 has even more problems.

I'm struggling to come up with "a lot" of problems that the 360 has outside of the hardware.  The Guide lag sucks, but it's mitigated by the fact that the Guide is much better than anything else the competition has.  There's not many platformers, but that's a dying genre outside of Mario.  What am I missing here?

Media anything, other than playlist functions. The new and old UI of the 360 is shit annoying, unless you get a wild boner from advertising. The NXE is a big improvement, though, but the media player shit is as bad as it has always been. Also, the fact that you can't actually use it as a standalone media system but instead need a computer with compatible software is annoying as hell.

As far as a pure gaming console goes, though, the PS3 has a long way to go to match the 360. Even with Sucker Punch onboard.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 06:40:28 PM
Charging for live, ludicrous accesory prices, durability, customer support, dirty tactics regarding credit cards, there's just as many "problems" as there are for the PS3
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Narag on June 20, 2009, 06:48:12 PM
Yeah, that $2.30/month I spent for online play really made me question the 360.
Why for the price of a 360 and 7 years of online service, I could've bought a PS3!

I don't particularly agree they should charge for live but that's how it is, its not a prohibitive price.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: dammitmattt on June 20, 2009, 06:49:37 PM
Media anything, other than playlist functions. The new and old UI of the 360 is shit annoying, unless you get a wild boner from advertising. The NXE is a big improvement, though, but the media player shit is as bad as it has always been. Also, the fact that you can't actually use it as a standalone media system but instead need a computer with compatible software is annoying as hell.

I don't care about media functions outside of Netflix.  That's why I have a PS3.  What does it do wrong as a GAMING CONSOLE?

Charging for live, ludicrous accesory prices, durability, customer support, dirty tactics regarding credit cards, there's just as many "problems" as there are for the PS3

None of these have anything to do with how it works as a gaming console.  Live is better so it's worth the pittance that it costs a year.  Accessory prices are no different than Wii/PS3 outside of WiFi (which I don't need) and hard drive (which I got used).  By the way, for me, it's worth the extra money to have a truly portable hard drive that turns any machine into MY machine.  This is a MUST for Rock Band nights since I have more music than any of my friends.  It's so much easier to pop off my hard drive than take my whole machine.  The same thing is true for my memory card, which is great to have so I can easily move my profile between systems.  You can't do this stuff on the PS3.

Customer support is no different than most companies and credit card tactics are the same as every other service (it's only stupid/irresponsible people that get burned).

Weak answers from you two, and not a single one of them have to do with how it is as a gaming console.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 20, 2009, 07:03:06 PM
My PS3 is better than the PS2 I had. I mean it plays PS1, PS2, and PS3 games. And it makes PS1 and PS2 games look better. How does that not make it a better console?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 20, 2009, 07:09:36 PM
My PS3 is better than the PS2 I had. I mean it plays PS1, PS2, and PS3 games. And it makes PS1 and PS2 games look better. How does that not make it a better console?
that probably does make it a better console overall actually. It really is too bad that they dropped backwards compatability. The PS3 I purchased is a 40gb, so no bc for me  :'(
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 07:09:49 PM
For one, not everyone has thàÞ luxury. Some of us have to pay 8 a month for live.

Second bs on being able to move your stuff. That does not work unless you have a connection and the majority of xb users don't have a interneþ connection

Lastly the reasons we lisþed are no more ludicrious rthan the ones you xbot list about the PS3

SMH ps3 bashing on eb ::)
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 20, 2009, 07:11:48 PM
The PS3 I purchased is a 40gb, so no bc for me  :'(

pwnd. should have adopted early.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 20, 2009, 07:31:23 PM
fuck all the media-player and home theater bullshit, it's just not as good of a game console

i have never played a multiplatform game on ps3 that was superior in any way to the 360 counterpart
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 20, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
and i like my ps3 just fine, btw

i just happen to have a firm grip on reality
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 07:43:05 PM
Burnout?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 20, 2009, 07:46:42 PM
well the top two best games of the generation are either a PS3 exclusive or better on PS3 so i don't really see how ps3 can be a bad console
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 20, 2009, 07:51:47 PM
well the top two best games of the generation are either a PS3 exclusive or better on PS3

Crackdown and BioShock?
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 20, 2009, 07:57:31 PM
the only thing good about crackdown is that gamefly didn't take to long to receive it after i sent it back.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 07:57:38 PM
Yeah, right, Crackdown being anywheres near a top 10 list of anything  :lol
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 20, 2009, 08:18:17 PM
Media anything, other than playlist functions. The new and old UI of the 360 is shit annoying, unless you get a wild boner from advertising. The NXE is a big improvement, though, but the media player shit is as bad as it has always been. Also, the fact that you can't actually use it as a standalone media system but instead need a computer with compatible software is annoying as hell.

I don't care about media functions outside of Netflix.  That's why I have a PS3.  What does it do wrong as a GAMING CONSOLE?

What are you, a nintard or something? Neither company has designed or promoted its system as GAMING CONSOLE only, so I'm rating them as the complete packages. I wholly agree that aside from a few strong efforts by Sony and its partners on the software end, the 360 is a better GAMING CONSOLE. But that's not the only thing it is.

Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 08:26:15 PM
And I say to you sire, how is Þhe 360 any better than the PS3 as a gaming system? So whàt if the multi games are a tad better, its not like those games aren't playable on PS3.

Seriousky, some of you xbots are so damn annoying. You act like the actual consumer cares thÀt a game is 10 fpsa better on another console. They don't. Its not like the game doesn't work on PS3.

Then again, it must suck owning only one of trhe consoles as you constantlý have to lie to yourselfr why your console of choice is soooooo much better than someone elses. That goes for sfags and wiita®ds also
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Brehvolution on June 20, 2009, 08:32:08 PM
sh*tbin this xfag wankery just so I don't have to watch Methodis further tarnish the good sfag name. Arguments from both sides are embarrassingly old.

smh
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 20, 2009, 08:33:42 PM
The point is that neither console is so great or so shit as to warrant the attack-defense shit. They both have strengths, and plenty of weaknesses. The solution? A collaboration, or a common format. I'd honestly take jacked up accessory and services pricing over having to deal with multiples of half-failed consoles with proprietary services and exotic hardware again. I want there to be high-profile projects of the God of War, Halo and LBP sorts, but the hardware bit is just plain annoying at this point.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 20, 2009, 08:37:11 PM
the good sfag name.
:teehee
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Brehvolution on June 20, 2009, 08:54:54 PM
:teehee
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 20, 2009, 09:40:36 PM
Burnout?

played on both, couldn't tell a difference

except you had to jump through hoops to play your own music in the ps3 version - therefore, to me, it was inferior

even though i think MS are weasels for the way they handled the red ring issue at first, and i think their hardware quality is on the level of your average chinese electronics knock-off, the 360 is a better video game system, with more support from publishers and developers, and at the end of it none of that other bullshit matters

but i'm all done talking at walls here, you guys enjoy your hand-me-down games for the rest of this generation



Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 20, 2009, 09:41:45 PM
p.s.  i would send methodis to fanboy gitmo, if i could
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 09:49:48 PM
I'm not a sfag, I'm nothing. I own a ps3, wii, 360, pc and am not a rabid fanboy of either one. Calling me a fanboy of anything is ludicrous. I enjoy games on all 3 consoles. The only reason why I put forth the illusion of being an sfag is because this message board is overrun by xbots who decry anything thaþ dareßt challenge their beloved J Alard shrine.

I still have yet to see a valid reason to legitametely hate any of the three consoles. In fact þhe idea of hÀting an inadimate objeçt is one we all laugh aþ when we make fun of japafags.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 20, 2009, 09:56:47 PM
only a beacon of neutrality would spend all day typing arguments into their phone
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 10:01:10 PM
Only a person who has no clue what they're talking about would jump to the conclusion that I spend all day typing this when I do it on commute or while at work.

QWERTY keyboard ftw.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 10:02:07 PM
Its Les Claypool from the My Name is Mud video
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Narag on June 20, 2009, 10:03:14 PM
Only a person who has no clue what they're talking about would jump to the conclusion that I spend all day typing this when I do it on commute or while at work.

QWERTY keyboard ftw.

Something something taking hyperbole literally.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 10:05:18 PM
Did ýou miss the hilarious retort at the end? :teehee
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: archie4208 on June 20, 2009, 10:09:49 PM
I have just beaten GoW2. Wow, great ending and what a rush of super-hard boss fights near the end - Sisters of Fate and Zeus... Zeus was a bitch, killed me many times.

I don't remember that stuff being in Gears of War 2.  You fought a mutant Brumak from a helicopter at the end of the game.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: demi on June 20, 2009, 10:15:34 PM
Only a person who has no clue what they're talking about would jump to the conclusion that I spend all day typing this when I do it on commute or while at work.

QWERTY keyboard ftw.

lol. well i'm glad you're hard at work.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 20, 2009, 11:04:19 PM
This topic should have been shitbinned as soon as someone entertained the notion of PS3 being as good as PS2.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 20, 2009, 11:10:16 PM
HD budgets ensure no console will have the PS2's library again. 360 isn't even as good as the PS2, even though I play it more.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: cool breeze on June 20, 2009, 11:10:47 PM
360 has a lot more problems than just faulty hardware; the PS3 has even more problems.

I'm struggling to come up with "a lot" of problems that the 360 has outside of the hardware.  The Guide lag sucks, but it's mitigated by the fact that the Guide is much better than anything else the competition has.  There's not many platformers, but that's a dying genre outside of Mario.  What am I missing here?

I have to backpedal a bit.  A lot of the complaints I had were actually good things after thinking about it for a second.  Like, I was going to say XBL points are stupid until I remembered that I save a ton of real money by exploiting that system, so it's a positive.  But things like paying for gold (just the playing online part) are still bad.  Everything is proprietary on the system; the controller has to be charged using a special cable, the hard drive has to be the 360 clip on over priced hard drive, and other controllers/peripherals are a mess because of it.  One of the few good things about the PS3 is that it's almost as open as PC for accepting USB devices.  The guide is awful in both design and function.  I was somewhat happy when new xbox dash was released and it appeared faster, but over time it got worse.  Everything needs to load on the thing.  I want to buy a game or download the trial and it still needs to load the option to select.  Even games stored on my hard drive take way too long to load in the menu.  And I don't know if you consider it faulty hardware or not, but the system is obnoxiously loud.

That said, the 360 has become better over time.  It is one of the only systems that made playing games more enjoyable with a firmware upgrade by allowing you to install games.  Both the 360 and PS3 started off so bad and eventually got better with each new firmware update.  The Wii got a clock and the ability to skip a step when playing games off the SD card.  The smartest thing Microsoft did was implement a bunch of systems in place, like custom soundtracks or achievements, before the 360 came out.  The PS3 is still getting jacked trying to catch up to those two things.  All games still don't support custom soundtracks.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 20, 2009, 11:20:48 PM
I was somewhat happy when new xbox dash was released and it appeared faster, but over time it got worse.  Everything needs to load on the thing.  I want to buy a game or download the trial and it still needs to load the option to select.  Even games stored on my hard drive take way too long to load in the menu.
I thought that was only happening to me, phew. Whenever I try to compare achievements with peeps on my friends list, the dash locks up for a good 20 seconds. ANNOYING.

Oh yeah, I also hate how they removed the feature that allowed you to immediately view a friends profile when they hopped online and you pressed the guide button  :'(
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 20, 2009, 11:26:50 PM
But things like paying for gold (just the playing online part) are still bad.

Making demos timed exclusives to Gold members is almost as annoying as the whole pre-order demo thing that Sony has been pushing as of late. And most annoying is that it was an added feature, as it actually further gimped Silver. That's just not progressing in the right direction if you ask me. On the other hand, if you're a Gold member XBL is all sorts of great. I'm just concerned that we will see more tiers, and that my gold account will be somehow gimped when compared to a possible Platinum tier.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 20, 2009, 11:42:54 PM
how could I have shown an obvious bias at other places if I didn't even own a ps3 until january  ??? also I didn't own a wii since 2007
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Mrbob on June 21, 2009, 03:24:15 AM
Activision is just blowing off steam.  They won't do shit.  Kotick just wants to run his mouth.

360 has its issues, so does PS3.  They are just boxes with controller attached you play games with.  Having said this, Sony's talk of a fantastic first party lineup is finally coming to fruition.  PS3 may be expensive, but damn if it isn't pumping out impressive games.  MLB The Show and Infamous (both first party exclusives) are better than anything released so far this side of Dawn of War 2.  Upcoming lineup looks even better.  MS has a couple games here and there, but Sony first party looks to be on a path to annihilate MS's offerings.  360 may sell more systems, but PS3 is slowly becoming the better console for gaming. 

If you only own a 360 you have to convince yourself to enjoy sub par gaming in certain genres.  Case in point:

Infamous > Prototype

MLB The Show > MLB2K

Motorstorm > Gran Turismo > Forza

Ratchet > Banjo

X360 has its strengths (mainly superior 3rd party games), but its amazing how forgetful people become of the merits of the PS3.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: cool breeze on June 21, 2009, 04:05:52 AM
Crackdown would be a comparison to Infamous, and to balance the rest out.

Infamous = Crackdown
MLB The Show > The Bigs > no other good baseball games
PGR4 = Motorstorm 2

Dead Rising >>>>>>>> Genji 2

And this thread became more about why the 360 is ultimately better than the PS3 instead of why Activision sucks (outside of IW and Blizzard).  They even ruined Bizarre.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: brawndolicious on June 21, 2009, 04:11:34 AM
Motorstorm > Gran Turismo > Forza
Those three games aren't even remotely similar.

Forza: It does the tuning and the simmish-handling aspects very, very well.  I think I remember the graphics getting a little fugly at parts but the physics are where the meat & potatoes are.

GT: It's just a screenshot generator afaik but it has a big fanbase so there must be something there.  The cars handling does feel too scripted though.

Motorstorm: An interesting take on the offroad racing genre and I think it was the first PS3 game to also have a decent online community.  I think it's good, but not worth sucking the balls of the multiplatform Sega Rally game.

Which just shits from great heights on any other off-road arcade racer that I've seen.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: maxy on June 21, 2009, 05:02:17 AM
I see that we had some mini meltdowns here,if PS3 gets dreamcasted internet is going to become one big crying place...

Last place console always gets the shaft,always
It is no coincidence that Activision mentioned next year,people are going to start developing for next generation systems very soon(as in 2011),i fully expect to see next gen systems by fall 2012...3.5 years from now.

Guess where are they going to find people to do that,most problematic,last place,least profitable platform...PS3
Nobody is going to hire more people and they can't abandon highly profitable platforms because they need money...
That is the real danger for Sony...MS and Nintendo hold the keys to that...funny how times have changed

As for the exclusives list warz :lol ...

There are only two types of games:
1.Games that are fun to play-games that people like
2.Games that are not fun to play-games that people don't like

Fanboy nerds are not included into people.

Nothing else matters...exclusive list warz  :lol
Imaginary ammunition for fanboy nerds to fight imaginary warz...


 




Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 21, 2009, 12:07:54 PM
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leper methodis
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and Borys  :P
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Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Mrbob on June 21, 2009, 12:13:08 PM
Nothing about list wars.  Someone had to lay down the real talk in this thread because it was getting out of hand.

Although this waggle bullshit is about to infect both consoles so it might be time to ditch them and go back to pc only.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 21, 2009, 01:58:32 PM
for all of this talk of sony's "awesome" first party lineup, i only own three ps3 exclusive games: infamous, mlb 09 the show, and hot shots golf oob. the rest of their first-party lineup has been completely disposable, and i see nothing on the horizon beyond mlb 10 to change that. seems the majority of gamers agree, what with sony's bottoming sales
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: duckman2000 on June 21, 2009, 02:36:06 PM
Games that justify the PS3 existence imho:

-Wipeout HD
-Uncharted

Beyond that there really arent many reasons to own one.

Uncharted, really? It was a good, fun little game made by a studio that obviously knows its stuff when it comes to cutscenes and overall production values, but I honestly don't understand how people could get that attached to it. It's like being a drooling fan of The Mummy, or something. But hey, at least Prole liked it.

Wipeout HD and Infamous is where it's at. Uncharted 2 looks like it might be crazy hot, too.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: brawndolicious on June 21, 2009, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: joker454;1305776
Xbox 720 and Natal are completely different things, one has nothing to do with the other. Natal is just an add on that might be bundled in its own package with a standard or maybe slimmed down 360. PS2 isn't comparable to anything either, it was in it's own league. Not supporting it would have been fiscal suicide.

What I'm saying is that in two or three years when we all have Xbox 720 and/or WiiHD kits, all publishers will have to make a choice. They will need engineers to support these new platforms because getting in on the ground floor is key. Will they go to the expense of hiring all new people, or will they shift people away from existing product? I think that is what that dude at Activision is contemplating. No one is dropping support now, but when the new machines come around they might. Mind you I doubt it would be a full fledged pull out, keep some key franchises that make major coin and ditch the rest. Now it's likely this is all saber rattling as others have said, but it's also possible that they projected out a few years, estimated where they thought PS3 pricing would be in two or so years and didn't like what they saw, hence his comment.

That's from a PS3 developer on B3D.  His conclusion is pretty logical though.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 21, 2009, 03:13:45 PM
i own two ps3s :hyper

mmmm, best blu-ray player on the market :bow2
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: tiesto on June 21, 2009, 03:47:24 PM
for all of this talk of sony's "awesome" first party lineup, i only own three ps3 exclusive games: infamous, mlb 09 the show, and hot shots golf oob. the rest of their first-party lineup has been shite, and i see nothing on the horizon beyond mlb 10 to change that. seems the majority of gamers agree, what with sony's bottoming sales

I can't believe you of all of the enlightened gamers don't own at least 2 copies of the follwing, triple AAA, PS3 exclusive titles that have rocked the gaming world!

Quote
LittleBigPlanet
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Killzone 2
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Resistance 2
WarHawk
Valkyria Chronicles
Resistance: Fall Of Man
MotorStorm
Buzz! Quiz TV
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
Heavenly Sword
Ridge Racer 7
Folklore
Time Crisis 4

All of those above offer some of the best gaming experience in the last 10 years! You can't enjoy them on 360 BTW, only the power of CELL(TM) SPU and BLU-RAY(TM) makes it possible.

I own copies of LBP, RR7, MGS4 and Valkyria (and Wipeout HD)... they're all really fun games. Was pretty disappointed with Uncharted, I hate that 'cover' style gears of war gameplay, and constant shooter parts, I prefer more platforming/exploration elements in my games...
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 21, 2009, 03:55:54 PM
i keep thinking i'll like LBP if i just give it another try, then hating it when i do

that metal gear solid pack with the paintball gun is really fun, though
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2009, 06:25:58 PM
I'm glad this thread got some raqtionality into it finallÿ.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 21, 2009, 08:06:46 PM
LBP was fun...for about an hour.

Didn't much care for it beyond that.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 21, 2009, 08:35:15 PM
Only thing holding me back from getting a PS3 is my lack of owning a 1080p TV (so I can watch some Blurays), the price, few exclusive titles worth owning, and the fact that it seems like in a couple of years, we'll be seeing the Xbox 1080, PlayStation 4, and the Wiii.  Maybe on the store shelves or maybe in announcements.  I think 2011-2012 might be the likely time frame where these new systems come out.  Buying a $400 machine just isn't worth it when a new version is coming in a couple of years.

My current plan is to keep playing my 360.  Once that gets to the inevitable red ring of death, I'm just going to go back and play games on emulators.  If it doesn't RROD, I'm sure the 360 will have enough of what I want.  Although I might re-Wii once SMG2 comes out  :'(
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: chronovore on June 21, 2009, 10:16:26 PM
I was somewhat happy when new xbox dash was released and it appeared faster, but over time it got worse.  Everything needs to load on the thing.  I want to buy a game or download the trial and it still needs to load the option to select.  Even games stored on my hard drive take way too long to load in the menu.
I thought that was only happening to me, phew. Whenever I try to compare achievements with peeps on my friends list, the dash locks up for a good 20 seconds. ANNOYING.

Oh yeah, I also hate how they removed the feature that allowed you to immediately view a friends profile when they hopped online and you pressed the guide button  :'(

Oh, my fucking GOD; I am so happy to hear this is not just my own machine and net connection. I get decent connectivity for voice chats and multiplayer games, but EVERY time I go to the marketplace, it's a freakin' test of my near-angelic patience. Trying to nav the Marketplace and get the trial version of new Arcade titles, or trying to get to this week's Rock Band tracks without losing my mind is an increasingly challenging task. The videos in the Spotlight area, where they show tips on getting Achievements for recent games, those will sit there and buffer the video for over a full minute.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: originalz on June 21, 2009, 10:59:24 PM
If you clean your cache it'll improve the dashboard speed.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: Mrbob on June 21, 2009, 11:12:59 PM
Problem is you have to clean it constantly.  :(

When I got down to around 30GB I had to clean it almost every other day.  It is a glitch with installing games to your hdd on a 120gb hdd.  MS needs to fix this.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: chronovore on June 22, 2009, 02:46:14 AM
Problem is you have to clean it constantly.  :(

When I got down to around 30GB I had to clean it almost every other day.  It is a glitch with installing games to your hdd on a 120gb hdd.  MS needs to fix this.

Are you serious? That's the situation I'm in; I've got a mess of games installed to my 120GB, and I'm down to about 42GB left. I'll give the cache a good douching and see what happens.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: patrickula on June 24, 2009, 12:50:31 AM
In response to a post pages ago... I own both Banjo N&B and LBP, and I've had a lot more fun playing Banjo.
Title: Re: Activision may stop suppporting Sony
Post by: chronovore on June 24, 2009, 03:24:37 AM
I've deleted my cache and only updated one game out of the 5 installed ones. Got about 2 dozen XBLA games on it. Still getting bad lag while it displays the "loading" glowy-xbox-rings animating logo, even at startup before showing the dashboard, and of course during streaming video loads. Also something's batty with XBL itself, in that it said some content was not accessible but it would not prevent me from playing with friends or chatting with them; AFAICT the only thing missing is the pic of the in-tray game.

I'm having a "bad technology week" - nothing seems to want to cooperate.