Author Topic: Activision may stop suppporting Sony (Read 9978 times)

Oblivion · « **on:** June 19, 2009, 02:51:18 PM »

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Activision CEO Bobby Kotick has warned that the publisher “might have to stop supporting Sony” platforms.

“I'm getting concerned about Sony; the PlayStation 3 is losing a bit of momentum and they don't make it easy for me to support the platform. It's expensive to develop for the console, and the Wii and the Xbox are just selling better. Games generate a better return on invested capital on the Xbox than on the PlayStation,” he told The Times.

“They have to cut the price, because if they don't, the attach rates are likely to slow,” he added. “If we are being realistic, we might have to stop supporting Sony. When we look at 2010 and 2011, we might want to consider if we support the console — and the PSP too.”

Kotick, who said recently that he was disappointed the platform holders opted not to announce console price cuts at E3, also noted that Activision had paid Sony $500 million in royalties and other goods last year, which “probably still worked out at 400 percent of the profit they made.”

http://www.edge-online.com/news/activision-ceo-%E2%80%9Cwe-might-have-to-stop-supporting-sony%E2%80%9D

archie4208 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 19, 2009, 02:57:57 PM »

The fewer Guitar Hero games on the market, the better.

Activision

Bocsius · « **Reply #2 on:** June 19, 2009, 03:06:28 PM »

I never liked [insert name] anyway.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #3 on:** June 19, 2009, 03:11:29 PM »

Didn't both Call of Duty games sell over a million units on the system, though?

duckman2000 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 19, 2009, 03:25:41 PM »

Call of Duty 4 has sold very well on the PS3, especially in Europe. And I still think it's mildly comical that Activision, the company that has and continues to play favorites with content and services of that franchise, would complain about lopsided market performance. It's not the main contributor to the issue, obviously, but enough to make you feel that maybe Activision shouldn't be the one hollering about the problem.

cool breeze · « **Reply #5 on:** June 19, 2009, 03:34:39 PM »

Quote from: Bocsius on June 19, 2009, 03:06:28 PM

I never liked [insert name] anyway.

That's just indicative of how shitty Activision is. But they have Blizzard and IW, so they still are relevant to me. Plus they sell a shit ton of games, so if they do pull, then that would be pretty crazy for Sony.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 19, 2009, 03:39:23 PM »

COD4 multiplayer was crack, that is for damned sure. But I'm getting plain too old for the SP format, and if I'm going to play another war game after COD4 and KZ2, it would have to be something like the original GR.

maxy · « **Reply #7 on:** June 19, 2009, 03:58:51 PM »

Ah sfags are probably at full battle readiness...

Sony is this gen everybodys bitch...the funniest part is that they have to comply
Imagine MS getting COD exclusivity...it would turn already zombified PS3 into dust
Some people would literally throw their PS3 through the window...

I remember IW saying that there are about 4 million unique PS3 users playing COD4,that would make 2 maybe 3 million sold to consumers.

The funniest thing is that Activision could do it easily...

Its also funny that he mentions PSP,Sony has revealed its new strategy basically a week ago...

I guess that he is not too impressed with PSP Go...

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #8 on:** June 19, 2009, 04:03:45 PM »

there's nothing impressive about the psp go except the audacity of the pricepoint

ManaByte · « **Reply #9 on:** June 19, 2009, 04:23:13 PM »

Quote from: maxy on June 19, 2009, 03:58:51 PM

Ah sfags are probably at full battle readiness...

Sony is this gen everybodys bitch...the funniest part is that they have to comply
Imagine MS getting COD exclusivity...it would turn already zombified PS3 into dust
Some people would literally throw their PS3 through the window...

I remember IW saying that there are about 4 million unique PS3 users playing COD4,that would make 2 maybe 3 million sold to consumers.

The funniest thing is that Activision could do it easily...

Its also funny that he mentions PSP,Sony has revealed its new strategy basically a week ago...

I guess that he is not too impressed with PSP Go...

The sfags are now saying MAG will kill MW2. Except that they forget the 60-player Resistance 2 fucking bombed. How do they expect a 256 player MAG to do better?

ManaByte · « **Reply #10 on:** June 19, 2009, 04:41:55 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on June 19, 2009, 04:33:23 PM

Some would argue that R2 bombed for different reasons. MAG is probably an easier sell too as it's more realistic in terms of setting.

But are there even 256 sfags on PSN to play it?

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #11 on:** June 19, 2009, 04:43:30 PM »

Activision should shut the fuck up as the only reason they exist is because Sony sold them Neversoft and because Sony allowed them to publish THPS on PS1. Bunch of whiny fucking babies, no worse than the Xfags who are jerking off over this news. SMH.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #12 on:** June 19, 2009, 04:49:53 PM »

awesome

overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho

bye bye gamecube 2

maxy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 19, 2009, 04:52:29 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2009, 04:03:45 PM

there's nothing impressive about the psp go except the audacity of the pricepoint

Yeah i know,but still i thought that Sony did something behind closed doors so that publishers would be more willing to make games for it...
I guess that sudden surge in announced PSP games is more like...ah we will make couple of games for it,but that is all you got,your strategy sucks

As for MAG to me it looks like a hardcore niche title,depending how good the execution will be.

Its no competition to COD franchise.
No singleplayer is a big downfall too...

dammitmattt · « **Reply #14 on:** June 19, 2009, 04:57:15 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on June 19, 2009, 04:49:53 PM

awesome

overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho

bye bye gamecube 2

You're the only person that can get away with the Gamecube thing on GAF. The rest have been banned. I say go for it.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #15 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:09:35 PM »

Comparing the PS3 to the GameCube is ludicrous; the GCN, after being on the market for three years and floundering, only cost $99.

dammitmattt · « **Reply #16 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:19:34 PM »

Quote from: Malek on June 19, 2009, 05:09:35 PM

Comparing the PS3 to the GameCube is ludicrous; the GCN, after being on the market for three years and floundering, only cost $99.

And the GameCube was profitable.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #17 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:20:24 PM »

I didn't want to play Activision's games anyway, too sour.

cool breeze · « **Reply #18 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:27:04 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on June 19, 2009, 04:49:53 PM

awesome

overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho

bye bye gamecube 2

Sony just started doing PSP-PS3 connectivity in games. PS3 still needs to play PSP games on it before it can catch up with Gamecube levels of desperation.

Quote from: Malek on June 19, 2009, 05:20:24 PM

I didn't want to play Activision's games anyway, too sour.

I never got why people boycott games. People on gaf are saying that they won't be buying Modern Warfare 2 and things like that, as if those few people matter when CoD4 sold millions.

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Yeah i know,but still i thought that Sony did something behind closed doors so that publishers would be more willing to make games for it...
I guess that sudden surge in announced PSP games is more like...ah we will make couple of games for it,but that is all you got,your strategy sucks

at e3 sony said that they dropped development costs or something by 80%, so that might be the reason

duckman2000 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:39:44 PM »

That bit definitely reeks of Cubite. The path of justice (of the 4-year old sort), boycotting developers/publishers and games because they were "lazy" and didn't put a ton of work into ports, and so forth.

Of course, nothing beats "I'm boycotting this company, right after I buy this product of theirs!"

maxy · « **Reply #20 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:41:04 PM »

I think that PSP dev kits are 80% cheaper.
Not a problem for a big publishers...

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #21 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:51:31 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 19, 2009, 05:42:34 PM

3rd party games are an overthought on PS3

That's afterthought, not overthought.

Quote from: Borys on June 19, 2009, 05:42:34 PM

Burn and die in a fire PLAYSTATION(TM) 3.

the PlayStation 3 isn't a bad console. It has a decent mix of first and third party games while being a kickass blu-ray player.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #22 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:54:42 PM »

Natal Effect

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #23 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:02:37 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 19, 2009, 05:42:34 PM

YES

Activision has mega fucking balls but is 100% right.

Sony should be treated like a dog this gen and, partly, is treated like that already: 3rd party games are an overthought on PS3, mostly by developers forced to make them with minimal effort.

Burn and die in a fire PLAYSTATION(TM) 3. You overpriced, slow, worse than 2 times cheaper console piece of shit.

And take your idiotic, rabid fans with you.

Why dont you go fuck off and die, or are you too busy playing MINDLESS SPACE SHOOTER EXCLUSIVE NUMBRE 2?

duckman2000 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:05:58 PM »

Another new interesting trend I've spotted on that board over yonder is that, apparently, exclusive content doesn't matter after all.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #25 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:52:48 PM »

Even though I turned in my ninthing jacket years ago, this news fills my black heart with glee.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #26 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:09:53 PM »

I think we'll see the PS3 slim and a not negligible price cut at TGS. Right before the holidays.

Quote from: Professor Prole on June 19, 2009, 04:49:53 PM

awesome
overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho
bye bye gamecube 2

Why would Activision drop Wii support tho? Aren't the best sellers just PS2 ports?

Beezy · « **Reply #27 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:15:32 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on June 19, 2009, 07:09:53 PM

I think we'll see the PS3 slim and a not negligible price cut at TGS. Right before the holidays.
Quote from: Professor Prole on June 19, 2009, 04:49:53 PM
awesome
overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho
bye bye gamecube 2
Why would Activision drop Wii support tho? Aren't the best sellers just PS2 ports?

...

Just in case you're not being sarcastic which I doubt you are, PS3 = GC2.

Oblivion · « **Reply #28 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:16:35 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on June 19, 2009, 06:05:58 PM

Another new interesting trend I've spotted on that board over yonder is that, apparently, exclusive content doesn't matter after all.

That's not new.

Also, when did Malek play video games?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #29 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:24:33 PM »

Boredom will cause you to do strange things.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #30 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:30:55 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on June 19, 2009, 07:15:32 PM

Quote from: am nintenho on June 19, 2009, 07:09:53 PM
I think we'll see the PS3 slim and a not negligible price cut at TGS. Right before the holidays.
Quote from: Professor Prole on June 19, 2009, 04:49:53 PM
awesome
overpriced and underpowered hardware gets the heave-ho
bye bye gamecube 2
Why would Activision drop Wii support tho? Aren't the best sellers just PS2 ports?
...
Just in case you're not being sarcastic which I doubt you are, PS3 = GC2.

The "overpriced and underpowered" part was a bit confusing.

PS3 and GC have completely opposite problems though (at least hardware-wise). At launch, GC was the most useful if you wanted to just mainly play games. While PS3 was the most useful console for playing movies.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #31 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:42:08 PM »

Why remove Wi-Fi? That's one of the least expensive components!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #32 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:49:58 PM »

I don't think removing the HD is possible in terms of, I don't know, ACTUALLY PLAYING GAMES.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #33 on:** June 19, 2009, 08:50:33 PM »

Seriously, they probably pay a dollar at cost for Wi-Fi, dude.

They just need to develop better hardware and not be such idiots.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #34 on:** June 19, 2009, 09:24:54 PM »

ps3 go

no disc drive, 48gb SSD drive, download only games

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #35 on:** June 19, 2009, 09:34:33 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on June 19, 2009, 08:17:12 PM

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Why dont you go fuck off and die, or are you too busy playing MINDLESS SPACE SHOOTER EXCLUSIVE NUMBRE 2?

you know what a makes a victory parade even better?

Defeated bronze medalist clown tear confette

Enjoy your underpowered Intel based PS4 in early 2011, it's the last sony platform and the last sony mistake.

3rd Party by August 2013

I don't understand you nerds who want less competition in the market place. Why do you want Sony gone? Have they violently raped your wife?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #36 on:** June 19, 2009, 09:35:20 PM »

a) one REAL console future
b) bitter fanthing tears
c) more bitter fanthing tears
d) kittonwy/wollan/hans suicide pact

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #37 on:** June 19, 2009, 09:38:40 PM »

Do you really want a Microsoft console being the only choice you have? I hope you enjoy the price gouging that will occur then.

Atleast Sony isn't gouging the customer for accesories :/.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #38 on:** June 19, 2009, 09:39:29 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2009, 09:24:54 PM

ps3 go

no disc drive, 48gb SSD drive, download only games

Price: $649.99

Oblivion · « **Reply #39 on:** June 19, 2009, 09:42:32 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on June 19, 2009, 09:38:40 PM

Do you really want a Microsoft console being the only choice you have? I hope you enjoy the price gouging that will occur then.

?

The cheapest 360 sku is cheaper than a Wii. I'm pretty sure the PS3 wasn't the reason for MS dropping the price

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #40 on:** June 19, 2009, 09:43:26 PM »

I was talking about Xbox Live, The WiFi adapter, Hard drives, HD DVD Drive, plug and play kits, etc etc. None are required but all where insanely overpriced.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #41 on:** June 19, 2009, 09:47:51 PM »

Quote from: Malek on June 19, 2009, 09:39:29 PM

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2009, 09:24:54 PM
ps3 go

no disc drive, 48gb SSD drive, download only games

Price: $649.99

thank you for swinging at that pitch

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #42 on:** June 19, 2009, 10:06:44 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on June 19, 2009, 09:34:33 PM

Quote from: dcharlie on June 19, 2009, 08:17:12 PM
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Why dont you go fuck off and die, or are you too busy playing MINDLESS SPACE SHOOTER EXCLUSIVE NUMBRE 2?

you know what a makes a victory parade even better?

Defeated bronze medalist clown tear confette

Enjoy your underpowered Intel based PS4 in early 2011, it's the last sony platform and the last sony mistake.

3rd Party by August 2013

I don't understand you nerds who want less competition in the market place. Why do you want Sony gone? Have they violently raped your wife?

Why are you so quick to vehemently defend Sony? Is Sony your dad?

duckman2000 · « **Reply #43 on:** June 19, 2009, 10:20:27 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on June 19, 2009, 09:38:40 PM

Do you really want a Microsoft console being the only choice you have? I hope you enjoy the price gouging that will occur then.

Atleast Sony isn't gouging the customer for accesories :/.

I'd like to see a collaboration. Sony knows media, which shows with the PS3. It has also built up a great stable of development talent, and it would be a damned shame if that was to fall apart. And while I don't personally like the games, I have trouble seeing anyone else letting Team Ico do its thing. Oh yeah, and the death of Wipeout would be fucking horrible.

Also, while I love the way the PS3 has become more Xbox than the successor to Xbox itself in terms of media capabilities and being an all-inclusive media/gaming box, I don't think there is any escaping accessories in the next generation. I'm sure if Sony could go back and redo the system, it would, and that change would almost certainly involve accessories and standard hardware features.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #44 on:** June 19, 2009, 10:28:17 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on June 19, 2009, 09:38:40 PM

Do you really want a Microsoft console being the only choice you have? I hope you enjoy the price gouging that will occur then.

Atleast Sony isn't gouging the customer for accesories :/.

oh god YES I DO

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #45 on:** June 19, 2009, 10:29:38 PM »

It's time for MS and Sony to have a child.

cool breeze · « **Reply #46 on:** June 19, 2009, 10:34:12 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2009, 09:24:54 PM

ps3 go

no disc drive, 48gb SSD drive, download only games

that would be pretty awesome because I could pass that up and still get the benefits of downloadable games

Sony is drowning and I'm reaping all the benefits

Capcom, Ubisoft and EA should make their own console. EA does non-games better than Nintendo, plus they have a bunch of awesome real games. Ubisoft has awful non-games, but way awesome real games. Capcom is Capcom.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #47 on:** June 19, 2009, 10:38:51 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 19, 2009, 10:06:44 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on June 19, 2009, 09:34:33 PM
Quote from: dcharlie on June 19, 2009, 08:17:12 PM
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Why dont you go fuck off and die, or are you too busy playing MINDLESS SPACE SHOOTER EXCLUSIVE NUMBRE 2?

you know what a makes a victory parade even better?

Defeated bronze medalist clown tear confette

Enjoy your underpowered Intel based PS4 in early 2011, it's the last sony platform and the last sony mistake.

3rd Party by August 2013

I don't understand you nerds who want less competition in the market place. Why do you want Sony gone? Have they violently raped your wife?

Why are you so quick to vehemently defend Sony? Is Sony your dad?

I'm not, I just don't understand these ra-ra-distinguished mentally-challenged fellows who think that the death of a major entity would be good for the business. The last thing M$ needs is another monopoly.

ManaByte · « **Reply #48 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:57:12 PM »

Monopoly? Lol. Get you trolls from somewhere other than 90s usenet posts.

Thanks to Apple, Linux, Mozilla, Java etc the only people who complain about MS having any sort of monopoly these days are basement dwellers who are stuck in the 90s.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #49 on:** June 20, 2009, 12:07:19 AM »

Or uninformed people who don't waste their time arguing petty arguments on the internet to know every competitor of Microshit.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #50 on:** June 20, 2009, 12:13:55 AM »

Quote from: Willco on June 19, 2009, 08:50:33 PM

Seriously, they probably pay a dollar at cost for Wi-Fi, dude.
They just need to develop better hardware and not be such idiots.

Well the new PS3 model there were some pics leaked of had smaller circuit boards and dies and whatnot right? I think that that would significantly reduce the cost of manufacturing it.

Quote from: MyNameIsMud on June 19, 2009, 09:38:40 PM

Do you really want a Microsoft console being the only choice you have? I hope you enjoy the price gouging that will occur then.

Atleast Sony isn't gouging the customer for accesories :/.

I think that if the playstation consoles did actually "die", all the sbots would blame MS when Nintendo actually did far more damage to the market.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #51 on:** June 20, 2009, 01:37:37 AM »

Quote from: Willco on June 19, 2009, 08:50:33 PM

Seriously, they probably pay a dollar at cost for Wi-Fi, dude.

$1 x 10,000,000 units = $10,000,000 saved.

Sony hardware + MS software = awesome. Then Nintendo would really be relegated to non-gaming status.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #52 on:** June 20, 2009, 01:49:58 AM »

Based off of the 360 and PS3, I'd like to see Sony handle the media viewing (and previewing) bit. Watching videos or listening to music is a hell of a lot more convenient and fluid on the PS3. Oh well, it's nice to want things.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #53 on:** June 20, 2009, 02:35:18 AM »

have you tried using vidzone? hideos interface

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #54 on:** June 20, 2009, 03:43:27 AM »

I dont think the gamecube comparisons are very apt. Gamecube was easy to develop on and had close performance to xbox games when it was played to its strengths. It also was a profitable console even at 99 bucks, cus you know, Nintendo does engineering pretty swell. If anything the Wii takes the concepts of barebones online support and a weird controller, but this time they market it correctly with nongames and apple plastic.

And anyone clamoring for a one console future are in for a disappointment when it happens. I'm predicting a living room pc rig with a waggle wand. I can't see the controller s template surviving after this E3. When I say "pc" that includes all the media functions and ancillary roles.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #55 on:** June 20, 2009, 04:39:28 AM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on June 20, 2009, 02:35:18 AM

have you tried using vidzone? hideos interface

No, what's that? I'm talking more about the basic functionality of the system as a media viewer/player. Everything is fast, navigation is full featured and even previews are snappy. Between the odd good exclusives, my PS3 is the default media player, and for good reason. Still lacking in sorting and playlist options, though.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #56 on:** June 20, 2009, 04:44:07 AM »

God of War 2 upscaled

PS3

spoiler (click to show/hide)

God of War 2 is such a "second game in the trilogy"

[close]

duckman2000 · « **Reply #57 on:** June 20, 2009, 04:46:07 AM »

You haven't even fucking owned a PS3, Poltard.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #58 on:** June 20, 2009, 04:50:07 AM »

God of War 2 is meh, God of War 3 looks infinitely better. PS3 wins yet another one over the vastly overappreciated PS2. Typical Borys, wrong again. Better Wipeout game? Yup. Awesome Sucker Punch game? Totally. Better God of War? Absolutely. And of course, Uncharted 2 shits all over anything Naughty Dog ever did on PS2.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #59 on:** June 20, 2009, 04:59:29 AM »

Quote from: Borys on June 20, 2009, 04:55:31 AM

amazing catalogue of amazing games

Sure, if you like crap

Quote from: Borys on June 20, 2009, 04:55:31 AM

FFX-2

Precisely

All the PS3 needs now is a Sly game and we're set.

Quote from: Borys on June 20, 2009, 04:55:31 AM

I wouldn't trade my PS2 for anything.

I would trade a PS2 for a PS3 with backwards compatibility, but hey.

PS2

Xbox

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Author Topic: Activision may stop suppporting Sony (Read 9978 times)