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Title: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 15, 2009, 09:07:05 PM

Since I heard 3030 nothing post-2000 has measured up. I don't even like the majority of Del's stuff, but this album facefucks me on every listen. It's actually become one of my favorite albums out of any genre, and it's very rare that I ever enjoy a hip-hop album from start to finish.

The problem is, I haven't been able to get in to anything else lately. It's gotten to the point where I've been downloading entire Hieroglyphics albums just for the songs that Del is on :lol I specifically feel like I'm missing out on all the stuff that's come out this past decade, and I'd like to fill in some of those blanks, but I have no clue where to start.

Here's what I have in my library right now (post-2000):

DANGERDOOM - Meh. I probably like 2-3 songs total.
Madvillain - better than DANGERDOOM, but I'm still pretty indifferent towards most of DOOM's stuff. He is SOOOOO monotonous, and he always sounds bored, like he doesn't even want to be rapping.
Lupe Fiasco - Love most of his material, although The Cool was pretty underwhelming at times. There are some songs that I absolutely loathe (Superstar, Paris Tokyo, Gotta Eat, Dumb it Down [oh my fucking god this shit is so annoying], Fighters, Go Baby)
Cannibal Ox - I always hear people comparing The Cold Vein to 36 Chambers. I didn't see the resemblance. Again, just like DOOM, the wooden delivery puts me to sleep.
Y Society - Fucking awesome, their one album is a classic. I'm eagerly awaiting the sequel.

And here's some of my favorite stuff from Del to use as a reference point:

Madness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_HW_AQiKkc&fmt=18)
Turbulence (Remix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL4b45Mxcm4&fmt=18)
Positive Contact (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x217jAUjl0c&fmt=18)
At The Helm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG5La6k6eTI&fmt=18) (not on Deltron 3030, but HOLY SHIT SO GOOD)

So, what's the verdict? Am I too picky? Should I just wait for Deltron Event II? Or is there hope for me yet? I've made this thread on like 3 different forums and have yet to be wowed, so uh...wow me please.

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Vizzys on July 15, 2009, 09:11:59 PM

deltron 3030 is pretty fucking awesome yes

and no you wont find anything else like it I think

you should try styles of beyond - 2000 fold, thats a classic rap album imo, nothing like del of course

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 15, 2009, 10:00:12 PM

I actually have 2000 Fold. It's alright, pretty hit-or-miss though. The titular track is great.

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: ch1nchilla on July 15, 2009, 11:48:26 PM

spoiler (click to show/hide)

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=714YwX_yn9c[/youtube]

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Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Akala on July 16, 2009, 12:43:21 AM

[youtube=560,345]aLTKGTXR6vI[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]SmqXKbxDoJ0[/youtube]

technically 99, but you may like

[youtube=560,345]C6Y6U_KJjU8[/youtube]

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 16, 2009, 01:08:08 AM

Y Society :bow

check out

-Blu & Exile - Beneath the Heavens. Fuck awesome

-P.O.S's new album, Never Better, is pretty good. Kinda in that emo hip hop type category, might turn some folks off
...uhhh brain fart, can't think of anything else

In terms of DOOM, the Viktor Vaughn album has more "energy" vocally so you might like it.

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Saint Cornelius on July 16, 2009, 01:12:24 AM

Rob Sonic.

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: E-DuB on July 16, 2009, 01:36:16 AM

K-os for a mellow vibe

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 16, 2009, 02:03:46 AM

Quote from: Akala on July 16, 2009, 12:43:21 AM

[youtube=560,345]aLTKGTXR6vI[youtube]

[youtube=560,345]SmqXKbxDoJ0[youtube]

technically 99, but you may like

[youtube=560,345]C6Y6U_KJjU8[youtube]

I liked Mos Def's first album and Black Star, but nothing else since then. And I've never really dug any of the UK stuff, especially grime. I'll try bt though, that didn't sound too bad.

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 16, 2009, 01:08:08 AM

Y Society :bow

check out

-Blu & Exile - Beneath the Heavens. Fuck awesome

-P.O.S's new album, Never Better, is pretty good. Kinda in that emo hip hop type category, might turn some folks off
...uhhh brain fart, can't think of anything else

In terms of DOOM, the Viktor Vaughn album has more "energy" vocally so you might like it.

Woops, I forgot to list Blu. I have Beneath The Heavens, that was another good one. I'll check out P.O.S. and Viktor Vaugn.

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on July 16, 2009, 01:12:24 AM

Rob Sonic.

:lol Holy shit, I remember hearing him in a Tony Hawk game aaaages ago. I tried to Google the lyrics, but I could never find out who it was.

Quote from: E-DuB on July 16, 2009, 01:36:16 AM

K-os for a mellow vibe

K-os is good, but I'm looking for something a little more traditional.

Thanks for all the recs, this gives me a lot to pick through. Oh, and I meant to ask this in the OP, but what do you guys think of MURS?

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: The Sceneman on July 16, 2009, 05:14:56 AM

[youtube=560,345]9mNuqkqGKic[/youtube]

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 16, 2009, 08:47:20 AM

This P.O.S. album reminds me a lot of Saul Williams on NiggyTardust. Pretty badass.

Jesus, that Riff Raff song is just...wow :-\

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Saint Cornelius on July 16, 2009, 12:17:18 PM

Might want to check out Cadence Weapon, too.

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: JaySosa on July 16, 2009, 04:36:20 PM

Been listening to this album nonstop since buying it a month ago:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZwbuzOz_BWI/Rq_EMYuRb6I/AAAAAAAAAo8/OSp0tt3Hxi4/s200/Cyne+-+Evolution+Fight.jpg)

Evolution Flight by Cyne. They also released "Pretty dark things" last year (bought that too but it's still sealed :))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuJLIWBRZTI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuJLIWBRZTI&feature=related)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6eVPUKU3F4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6eVPUKU3F4)(bad qual.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP2ISUThbcQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP2ISUThbcQ)

Besides that I've been listening to the new B.o.B Mixtape, especially the Bobby Ray part and the J.Cole "Warm up" mixtape.

J.Cole "Lights please" :      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meQoF8OOjk4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meQoF8OOjk4)
         "Dollar and a dream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-gGaDY8tKs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-gGaDY8tKs) 

And since you enjoyed Deltron 3030 (which is kinda one big story) you'll probably like Masta Aces(the legend from which eminem "borrowed his flow) "A long hot summer" and "Disposable arts" too which are based on the same concept (kinda sad that no other artists do this, a nas album in that style would be insane..) and the underrated Sticky Fingaz solo "Black trash"

Some other (older) recommend.:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51pr33Uc41L._AA240_.jpg)

One be lo "Sonogram"

Blue scholars "Self titled & Bayani"

Lois logic "Misery loves comedy"

Median "Medians relief"

Panacea "The scenic route"

Zion I "True and livin"

Murs "3:16"

Little Brother "The Listening, Minstrel Show"

The Foreign Exchange (second one is a dope rnb album)

Some youtube vids/tracks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chS_7MKzQOc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chS_7MKzQOc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukNXy80w2jU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukNXy80w2jU)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJrw5NyoCOI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJrw5NyoCOI)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_QXYpK8FNE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_QXYpK8FNE&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIqMIrmpUjc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIqMIrmpUjc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Xl5mFE1UA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Xl5mFE1UA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duliw6Sx8d4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duliw6Sx8d4&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utmjd-NJ81k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utmjd-NJ81k)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHB2sROX2gE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHB2sROX2gE&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0CpaEa5LuI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0CpaEa5LuI&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5QW7UfGUgI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5QW7UfGUgI)

Hope I could help and sorry for my english; I'm from vienna/austria  :D

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Tucah on July 16, 2009, 04:43:04 PM

Don't really listen to much rap, but I love P.O.S. and the new album's great.

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Akala on July 16, 2009, 04:43:53 PM

welcome JaySosa~

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Saint Cornelius on July 16, 2009, 04:49:11 PM

Damn good list JaySosa! I'm really feelin' Louis Logic's "Classy MC Nasty" - god that song is fucking FIRE

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: JaySosa on July 16, 2009, 04:49:33 PM

^^ thanks.. :) hope I can contribute to this forum, been a while since I joined one. Btw If someone is looking for real independent hip hop they should checkout cdbaby.com (sorry for advertising). You can preview every song for about 1 minute and they have really rare stuff.

EDIT: ^and yeah louis logic is extremly nice my fav ist that incredible storytelling track(perfect cycle, unfortunatly its not on youtube. Always been a sucker for that type of songs.

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Saint Cornelius on July 16, 2009, 06:05:28 PM

Quote from: JaySosa on July 16, 2009, 04:49:33 PM

Always been a sucker for that type of songs.

Then you'll love the fuck out of this (http://www.last.fm/music/Siah%2B%2526%2BYeshua%2BDapoED/_/A+Day+Like+Any+Other)

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 16, 2009, 06:55:29 PM

JaySoso :bow

I'm gonna have to get the Cyne album, the tracks I've heard are great. And yea, the J Cole mixtape is great

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Fresh Prince on July 16, 2009, 07:40:40 PM

J Cole is amazing. Drake is garbage.

Here are rappers that I like

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ15mDGGKd0[/youtube]
So polite too. Whole album is like an English Illmatic but shitter.

Oh that Cyne is actually good.

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Akala on July 16, 2009, 08:04:43 PM

I was using Akala as a handle way before that fucker.   
I like to think that he was a young nerd that bit it from my early online dealings. It (vaguely) sucks, because it's totally that guy's fault the name is usually taken online GRAH. :punch
 

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 16, 2009, 09:25:59 PM

Drake lolz

He's witty in the couple songs I've heard of his, but I just don't "get" the appeal. He looks like a slightly hipper, more urban John Kerry. So why do ladies love him, and more importantly why do my friends with good taste continue to give him props

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 16, 2009, 10:01:46 PM

Quote from: JaySosa on July 16, 2009, 04:36:20 PM

Been listening to this album nonstop since buying it a month ago:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZwbuzOz_BWI/Rq_EMYuRb6I/AAAAAAAAAo8/OSp0tt3Hxi4/s200/Cyne+-+Evolution+Fight.jpg)

Evolution Flight by Cyne. They also released "Pretty dark things" last year (bought that too but it's still sealed :))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuJLIWBRZTI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuJLIWBRZTI&feature=related)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6eVPUKU3F4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6eVPUKU3F4)(bad qual.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP2ISUThbcQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP2ISUThbcQ)

Besides that I've been listening to the new B.o.B Mixtape, especially the Bobby Ray part and the J.Cole "Warm up" mixtape.

J.Cole "Lights please" :      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meQoF8OOjk4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meQoF8OOjk4)
         "Dollar and a dream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-gGaDY8tKs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-gGaDY8tKs) 

And since you enjoyed Deltron 3030 (which is kinda one big story) you'll probably like Masta Aces(the legend from which eminem "borrowed his flow) "A long hot summer" and "Disposable arts" too which are based on the same concept (kinda sad that no other artists do this, a nas album in that style would be insane..) and the underrated Sticky Fingaz solo "Black trash"

Some other (older) recommend.:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51pr33Uc41L._AA240_.jpg)

One be lo "Sonogram"

Blue scholars "Self titled & Bayani"

Lois logic "Misery loves comedy"

Median "Medians relief"

Panacea "The scenic route"

Zion I "True and livin"

Murs "3:16"

Little Brother "The Listening, Minstrel Show"

The Foreign Exchange (second one is a dope rnb album)

Some youtube vids/tracks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chS_7MKzQOc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chS_7MKzQOc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukNXy80w2jU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukNXy80w2jU)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJrw5NyoCOI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJrw5NyoCOI)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_QXYpK8FNE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_QXYpK8FNE&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIqMIrmpUjc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIqMIrmpUjc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Xl5mFE1UA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Xl5mFE1UA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duliw6Sx8d4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duliw6Sx8d4&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utmjd-NJ81k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utmjd-NJ81k)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHB2sROX2gE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHB2sROX2gE&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0CpaEa5LuI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0CpaEa5LuI&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5QW7UfGUgI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5QW7UfGUgI)

Hope I could help and sorry for my english; I'm from vienna/austria  :D

Hoooooly shit, you rock. I don't have time to look at all of it right now because I'm on my way out the door to go camping, but I really appreciate this

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Fresh Prince on July 16, 2009, 10:06:04 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 16, 2009, 09:25:59 PM

Drake lolz

He's witty in the couple songs I've heard of his, but I just don't "get" the appeal. He looks like a slightly hipper, more urban John Kerry. So why do ladies love him, and more importantly why do my friends with good taste continue to give him props

He is the future....

J Cole on the other hand is actually good but I just worry when it comes time to deliver an album it will be mediocre.

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: twerd on July 16, 2009, 11:01:53 PM

Common Market

Hilltop Hoods

El-P

Busdriver

Mr. Lif

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Akala on July 17, 2009, 12:38:45 AM

That Cyne album is pretty good.

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 17, 2009, 03:12:20 AM

Quote from: Fresh Prince on July 16, 2009, 10:06:04 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 16, 2009, 09:25:59 PM

Drake lolz

He's witty in the couple songs I've heard of his, but I just don't "get" the appeal. He looks like a slightly hipper, more urban John Kerry. So why do ladies love him, and more importantly why do my friends with good taste continue to give him props

He is the future....

J Cole on the other hand is actually good but I just worry when it comes time to deliver an album it will be mediocre.

I'm not even getting my hopes up. Assuming he ever drops an album of course considering he's signed with Jay-Z.

smh @ Jay Electronica not releasing anything lately  :'(

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: JaySosa on July 17, 2009, 04:21:25 PM

Damn, I almost forgot to mention K-Rino!

Got these 2 gems: (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_24FW_eFJ2no/Rr9Bez935qI/AAAAAAAAEzU/pbeUziUpKkE/s200/K-Rino%2B-%2BWorst%2BRapper%2BAlive.jpg)

(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/8808907.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_xG2jEniKI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_xG2jEniKI) "What if"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdk8ChQqilQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdk8ChQqilQ) "Man in the mask"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7k_KZ_KMzM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7k_KZ_KMzM) "Who are you" Probably my fav Rino track

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6KMcKKEcqc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6KMcKKEcqc&feature=related) "Break it down" This one's insane

Hes has a very distinct voice and sometimes lackluster production but the lyrics are absolutely top notch.

Z-ro is also really nice but I guess all this Houston/S.U.C stuff isn't really what you are looking for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuLpuRog8f8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuLpuRog8f8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VIVmcrMQpc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VIVmcrMQpc&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X-JKgXKt_U&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X-JKgXKt_U&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E_e8kA2fNo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E_e8kA2fNo)

Oh and I also like Drake but then again I love nearly every type of hip hop.  Even the old Cash Money/NL stuff (mainly because of the Beats by the Pound and especially Mannie Freshs productions). But imo hes really nice and better than all these wannabe gangsters like Ross, Plies Ace hood and so on.

I never understood why some people only care for one type of hip hop/rap. It always depends on my mood what I like to hear. If I'm in my car I wanna listen to some banging beats and since I don't really pay attention to the lyrics while I'm drivin I don't give a f If the rapper Is a lyrical genius or not.

Title: Re: Del ruined hip-hop for me (or: recommend me some fresh rap)
Post by: JaySosa on July 27, 2009, 01:16:28 PM

Since I'm bored some more recommendations:

Square One - Walk of Life (Currently playing at work thanks to my fuze and pc speakers)

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBC5NvkW3PY&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X00jfxDIQQ&feature=related[/youtube]

Gift of Gab - 4th Dimensional Rocketships Going up

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdM8o9qKI8A&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eok7z17Ad3M&feature=related[/youtube]

L.E.G.A.C.Y. - Project Mayhem (Just read that he ist about to release his sophmore album, instabuy :D)

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5szeB1pQvb8&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ehU36UMqgI&feature=related[/youtube]

Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_0AKTjs5Z0&feature=PlayList&p=BE9A0470642C53EF&index=11[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dupwpHSjADM&feature=related[/youtube]

Supastition - Chain Letters

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDizjHpE8R8&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDMLOdc6dM8&feature=related[/youtube]

Nicolay - The Dutch Masters Vol.1

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPyqMr93FIY&feature=PlayList&p=EF1D425AA6B95B1E&index=0[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKEznQs8Vl8[/youtube]