WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?
WHAT THE FUCK?
I'm going to kill myself.
How do you go from DQVIII on ps2...to DQIX on the DS?
This is the worst day of my fucking life.
I'm going to kill myself.
How do you go from DQVIII on ps2...to DQIX on the DS?
This is the worst day of my fucking life.
oh, quit bawling. Dragon Quest titles are best when they're lo-fi and content-dense, like DQ4 and DQ7.
oh, quit bawling. Dragon Quest titles are best when they're lo-fi and content-dense, like DQ4 and DQ7.
Then don't make it fucking 3D on the DS. 3D looks ass-tacular on DS.
PSP should be put on suicide watch, though.Along with Himuro.
DQ is the biggest franchise in Japan, PD. That's how so.
And when will the ntards stop with the celebrating? This is the pre cursor to the switch from consoles to handhelds. Handhelds are good and all but are NOTHING compared to consoles.
Take your steamlollers and roflcopters somewhere else.
Well typically a new DQ would come out on a console; I was expecting Wii or PS3.
Now that it's on DS, many gamers may not even be interested in buying a Wii and/or PS3 until much later on.
Like I said, it won't KILL PS3, but it's fucking with a trend. PSP should be put on suicide watch, though.
Well typically a new DQ would come out on a console; I was expecting Wii or PS3.
Now that it's on DS, many gamers may not even be interested in buying a Wii and/or PS3 until much later on.
Like I said, it won't KILL PS3, but it's fucking with a trend. PSP should be put on suicide watch, though.
How is that a bad thing? The PS3 was not going to sell in Japan until FFXIII came out anyway so this isn't much of a shock. The gamers who will make the Wii a success don't care about DQ so it won't effect the Wii.
(http://bonusweb.idnes.cz/obrazek/dqvii_4.jpg)
Awesome news, cant wait to download it.
Well typically a new DQ would come out on a console; I was expecting Wii or PS3.
Now that it's on DS, many gamers may not even be interested in buying a Wii and/or PS3 until much later on.
Like I said, it won't KILL PS3, but it's fucking with a trend. PSP should be put on suicide watch, though.
How is that a bad thing? The PS3 was not going to sell in Japan until FFXIII came out anyway so this isn't much of a shock. The gamers who will make the Wii a success don't care about DQ so it won't effect the Wii.
God dammit you're so stupid. DQ sells more than FF in Japan. SO, if DQ9 was in development for PS3 and came out in, say, 2007, more PS3's would be sold. Even if it came out later, you'd see more people buying PS3's BECAUSE they knew DQ is coming out for it someday.
Jesus fucking Christ I hate Nintendo. And Square Enix. But especially Nintendo. Note that this is SE's greedy, money-grubbing fault. Nintendo gets co-blame for supplying the shitty hardware.
SHUT UP PD.
GOD I HATE SQUARE ENIX.
Oh, no doubt, PD, it is a very smart move for SE. Now instead of pushing out their best selling franchise once every 4 years, they can do it EVERY year. It's financially wise, but it's bad for gamers. For the first time in history, a major release franchise game is taking a significant step BACKWARDS in terms of presentation. . .and RPGs are all about presentation.
PS3 isn't dead, but you can kiss PSP goodbye. Still, a fucking handheld is going to hurt console sales. Holy shit.
Dude, DQ10 being on the Wii would hurt, too. At best, it could look as good as DQ8 with some refinement.
Dude, DQ10 being on the Wii would hurt, too. At best, it could look as good as DQ8 with some refinement.
And? The Wii is twice as powerful as the Gamecube, so it'll look much better than DQVIII.
It's hilarious that the only thing you can think about is graphics in this discussion.
Dude, DQ10 being on the Wii would hurt, too. At best, it could look as good as DQ8 with some refinement.
And? The Wii is twice as powerful as the Gamecube, so it'll look much better than DQVIII.
It's hilarious that the only thing you can think about is graphics in this discussion.
Um, I don't think anyone would argue that graphics are a very important part of JRPGs, let alone games in general. Why would I want to go back to playing DQ7 after I've experienced the wonderful, and heretofore unparalleled overworld of DQ8?
Leaving the Wii out of this (since no one knows for sure, and I'm praying 10 won't go to that awful machine), you cannot argue that going to DS - roughly 10 year old hardware - is not a gigantic step back in presentation.
Graphics aren;t the most important element of games to me, but it's foolish to not admit that they have significant importance. DQ9 going to DS isn't just a step back, it's a HUGE step back.
It's undeniably a bad step for the series. Even ignoring the graphical issues, the DQ series has always been about tradition, but they are limiting themselves to a system with gimmick controls. I refuse to accept that 10 will be on the Wii just yet. Ask me again in a year if I'd believe it.
It's undeniably a bad step for the series. Even ignoring the graphical issues, the DQ series has always been about tradition, but they are limiting themselves to a system with gimmick controls. I refuse to accept that 10 will be on the Wii just yet. Ask me again in a year if I'd believe it.
Just how many RPG purists feel DQVIII is the best in the series? Even Drinky, Karl Rove to Nintendo's John Kerry, feels this is not a bad move. Come on.
I would probably bet my EvilBore account on DQIX going to the Wii. I'll guarentee you that by this time next year the Wii will be sitting comfortably ahead of the PS3 in Japan, and SE will take that into consideration when deciding which console gets it.
The second screen makes it seem like the world will be of decent size, or larger than i expected for a 3d rendition on DS. If this is DQO, then a single player console version is likely still being done. It's not announced yet, because SE wants to see if the Wii does the same as DS before deciding between it, PS2 and the PS3.
Why are we still critiquing DS screens in 2006? It's pretty obvious now that screens do terrible justice to DS games (even FFIII looks poor in pics). The video will give us a better idea of what to expect
:lol
Once we see the game in motion there will be ownage served.
:lol
Once we see the game in motion there will be ownage served.
Sorry dude, there's no arguing this is a presentation step backwards for the series. Being that the gimmick of DQ has been its ultra-traditional gameplay, and that the gameplay is changing, this news is throwing out all of the series' angels. It may as well be renamed. They are FF11ing the series.
:lol
Once we see the game in motion there will be ownage served.
Sorry dude, there's no arguing this is a presentation step backwards for the series. Being that the gimmick of DQ has been its ultra-traditional gameplay, and that the gameplay is changing, this news is throwing out all of the series' angels. It may as well be renamed. They are FF11ing the series.
Already said I'm not arguing that point about presentation - it's impossible, as you said.
Seems like this more of a FFXII change than a FFXI change to me.
Himuro's not being a dipshit, PD is, you fuckers.
PD: I was expecting either Wii or PS3, and I wouldn't have complained about either. DQ on DS is a massive step backwards. Just a dumb idea. It'll sell in Japan, but I expect less sales in NA and Europe. People think Japanese devs really give a shit about western audiences, but they don't, honestly. You barely even understand what people like me, White Man, and Himu are trying to get across, so shut the hell up and stop posting in this thread.
So we can't say we're disappointed that DQIX will be a total downgrade from DQVIII?
Still doesn't mean we should support the fact they've FFXI'ed the series.
So we can't say we're disappointed that DQIX will be a total downgrade from DQVIII?
Still doesn't mean we should support the fact they've FFXI'ed the series.
Downgrade in what way? Presentation? I'm sure you'll see a DQ game that surpasses VIII in terms of atmosphere.
I mean fuck, 1 out of 9 games isn't your traditional DQ console game and all of a sudden it's the end of gaming. How many fucking times can you play the same turn based DQ game?
Yeah I hated DQ7, mostly because I played and beat DQ8 before playing it, and I'm pretty disappointed that DQ9 is just going to be a repeat of DQ7 like that. I LOVED the world setting in DQ8.... they really needed to keep that :((http://bonusweb.idnes.cz/obrazek/dqvii_4.jpg)
That says Dragon Quest VII
So we can't say we're disappointed that DQIX will be a total downgrade from DQVIII?
Still doesn't mean we should support the fact they've FFXI'ed the series.
Downgrade in what way? Presentation? I'm sure you'll see a DQ game that surpasses VIII in terms of atmosphere.
I mean fuck, 1 out of 9 games isn't your traditional DQ console game and all of a sudden it's the end of gaming. How many fucking times can you play the same turn based DQ game?
Not in terms of presentation. This has LITTLE to do with presentation (although that's definitely apart of it) , this is basically CONSOLES VS HANDHELDS. I do not want to spend 80-100 hours on a fucking a handheld. Hell no! Have you ever considered that not all people are gay for handhelds?
This is coming from someone who plays his DS almost daily.
And PD, you've never even played a Dragon Quest so shut up!
Yeah I agree with Bacon. I doubt they'll put more than like 30-40 hours on a handheld like that... which is IMO like a hit to DQ in general. They always have long ass games!So we can't say we're disappointed that DQIX will be a total downgrade from DQVIII?
Still doesn't mean we should support the fact they've FFXI'ed the series.
Downgrade in what way? Presentation? I'm sure you'll see a DQ game that surpasses VIII in terms of atmosphere.
I mean fuck, 1 out of 9 games isn't your traditional DQ console game and all of a sudden it's the end of gaming. How many fucking times can you play the same turn based DQ game?
Not in terms of presentation. This has LITTLE to do with presentation (although that's definitely apart of it) , this is basically CONSOLES VS HANDHELDS. I do not want to spend 80-100 hours on a fucking a handheld. Hell no! Have you ever considered that not all people are gay for handhelds?
This is coming from someone who plays his DS almost daily.
And PD, you've never even played a Dragon Quest so shut up!
You're under the assumption that this is going to be a 80-100 hour DQ game. It looks like it's geared towards pick up and play/hop online with a few friends.
Things change.Yup
The DQ7 setting is really fucking disappointing though
What did I do?
Whatever. After giving this some thought:
-DQ9 will be out in the middle of next year; this is an usually short gap in between two DQ's... it suggests the next console DQ will probably be out a year after, or at the very least, will be in development very very soon.
-People are saying this is the end of Sony. It's not. Outside of forums like this, most western gamers don't give a damn about Dragon Quest. Final Fantasy is the big RPG over here, and last time I checked, it's a PS3 exclusive. It'll change things in Japan (especially if the next CONSOLE DQ is on Wii or 360), but this does not spell the end of Sony. Nintendo will have to pull off a lot more than this if they want to kick Sony and MS in the ass in NA and Europe. Sony not dead in Japan. FF13 alone will push console sales. So will games like MGS4.
-This gen is certainly a lot more competitive, but this is not 1995 in reverse. Yes, Nintendo and MS will gain some market share and who knows, everyone might be tied for first place at one point, but no one is going to flat out "die" this gen.
Who cares what this does to Sony?
God Diablos SHUT THE FUCK UP. Who cares? Sony DESERVES to die for all the shit they've done. BUY A 360.
Ive never played a game in this series. Hell, I havent played but one game this year at all. But this thread is solid gold :lol
Youd think it was just announced that Halo was now Sony exclusive, or that MS bought Nintendo. But nope, its because a 9th part of an RPG series is going handheld.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
YET.
An Action RPG DQ. :(
You know, I've hardly played any enjoyable action rpgs. They're mostly meh.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
An Action RPG DQ. :(
You know, I've hardly played any enjoyable action rpgs. They're mostly meh.
But arent you currently jacking it to Zelda?
You're an idiot if you underestimate Sony.
The market was big enough for the three of them last time, it's big enough for them this time.
Not when one of them costs 500 and 600 dollars.
Just imagine, Kingdom Hearts THREE will be coming to the DS
OH MY GOD ITS SO AWESOME
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
You really need to get beyond this kind of thinking, Himu. Oh, PS3 is ~$420 in Japan.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
Whitey, I know you're a tech fetishist with a job that enables you to scratch that itch... but you're not honestly trying to say that Sony didn't screw the pooch with the PS3? Come on now, don't be Diablos.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
Whitey, I know you're a tech fetishist with a job that enables you to scratch that itch... but you're not honestly trying to say that Sony didn't screw the pooch with the PS3? Come on now, don't be Diablos.
Don't be a prick.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
Whitey, I know you're a tech fetishist with a job that enables you to scratch that itch... but you're not honestly trying to say that Sony didn't screw the pooch with the PS3? Come on now, don't be Diablos.
Shut up TVC
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
Maybe that's part of the problem. Sony is too scared to take a chance while Nintendo is DISRUPTING THE MARKET WHILST GETTING BIG NAME GAMES LIKE DRAGON QUEST 9.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
Whitey, I know you're a tech fetishist with a job that enables you to scratch that itch... but you're not honestly trying to say that Sony didn't screw the pooch with the PS3? Come on now, don't be Diablos.
Don't be a prick.
Don't be a mindlessly jabbering consolebot who has to justify everything Sony does. Then I won't have to be a prick... to you. I will always unleash the hate on people, tho.
Waggle for us, Willco, come on, WAGGLE!
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
Whitey, I know you're a tech fetishist with a job that enables you to scratch that itch... but you're not honestly trying to say that Sony didn't screw the pooch with the PS3? Come on now, don't be Diablos.
Don't be a prick.
Don't be a mindlessly jabbering consolebot who has to justify everything Sony does. Then I won't have to be a prick... to you. I will always unleash the hate on people, tho.
I'm actually being pretty open-minded about the whole ordeal, you're the one at least partially siding with the PD mentality (ouch).
If I just said should Sony be dethroned, it would be by MS, and rightfully so -- how does this make me a consolebot? Explain, how? Hmm? Oh, you can't.
Also, really, as I think about DQ9 even further... like White Man said, this is bad for DQ first and foremost. Handhelds and consoles ARE two different things. Stop and think about this news. It's nothing to get your dick hard about. IF Nintendo really wanted to go in for the kill, they'd have DQ9 on Wii. And, hell, DQ10 might be, but it's not going to be out for a long time obviously. This gives Sony some time to make some power plays.
Waggle for us, Willco, come on, WAGGLE!
That does nothing for me.
Sir Wag-a-Lot, you're going to love DQ9
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
Whitey, I know you're a tech fetishist with a job that enables you to scratch that itch... but you're not honestly trying to say that Sony didn't screw the pooch with the PS3? Come on now, don't be Diablos.
Don't be a prick.
Don't be a mindlessly jabbering consolebot who has to justify everything Sony does. Then I won't have to be a prick... to you. I will always unleash the hate on people, tho.
I'm actually being pretty open-minded about the whole ordeal, you're the one at least partially siding with the PD mentality (ouch).
If I just said should Sony be dethroned, it would be by MS, and rightfully so -- how does this make me a consolebot? Explain, how? Hmm? Oh, you can't.
Also, really, as I think about DQ9 even further... like White Man said, this is bad for DQ first and foremost. Handhelds and consoles ARE two different things. Stop and think about this news. It's nothing to get your dick hard about. IF Nintendo really wanted to go in for the kill, they'd have DQ9 on Wii. And, hell, DQ10 might be, but it's not going to be out for a long time obviously. This gives Sony some time to make some power plays.
DQ9 is just stopgap so the Wii userbase can build up enough for DQ10 to move a few million units on the day of release.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
Whitey, I know you're a tech fetishist with a job that enables you to scratch that itch... but you're not honestly trying to say that Sony didn't screw the pooch with the PS3? Come on now, don't be Diablos.
Don't be a prick.
Don't be a mindlessly jabbering consolebot who has to justify everything Sony does. Then I won't have to be a prick... to you. I will always unleash the hate on people, tho.
I'm actually being pretty open-minded about the whole ordeal, you're the one at least partially siding with the PD mentality (ouch).
If I just said should Sony be dethroned, it would be by MS, and rightfully so -- how does this make me a consolebot? Explain, how? Hmm? Oh, you can't.
Also, really, as I think about DQ9 even further... like White Man said, this is bad for DQ first and foremost. Handhelds and consoles ARE two different things. Stop and think about this news. It's nothing to get your dick hard about. IF Nintendo really wanted to go in for the kill, they'd have DQ9 on Wii. And, hell, DQ10 might be, but it's not going to be out for a long time obviously. This gives Sony some time to make some power plays.
DQ9 is just stopgap so the Wii userbase can build up enough for DQ10 to move a few million units on the day of release.
After this news (and hell, even before it because they would've had to know about DQ9 not having anything to do with them), I can guarantee you that they are going to do everything they possibly can to have the next console DQ on PS3.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
Maybe that's part of the problem. Sony is too scared to take a chance while Nintendo is DISRUPTING THE MARKET WHILST GETTING BIG NAME GAMES LIKE DRAGON QUEST 9.
Continuing to prefer Sony after all of the dumb, indefensible shit they've done lately is a crime against intelligence, del.
At least Sony is not forcing waggle.
Yeah, but they tried to lamely co-opt waggle. Seriously, the PS3 is a clusterfuck.
But there's no game that requires you to actually use it.
Whitey, I know you're a tech fetishist with a job that enables you to scratch that itch... but you're not honestly trying to say that Sony didn't screw the pooch with the PS3? Come on now, don't be Diablos.
Don't be a prick.
Don't be a mindlessly jabbering consolebot who has to justify everything Sony does. Then I won't have to be a prick... to you. I will always unleash the hate on people, tho.
I'm actually being pretty open-minded about the whole ordeal, you're the one at least partially siding with the PD mentality (ouch).
If I just said should Sony be dethroned, it would be by MS, and rightfully so -- how does this make me a consolebot? Explain, how? Hmm? Oh, you can't.
Also, really, as I think about DQ9 even further... like White Man said, this is bad for DQ first and foremost. Handhelds and consoles ARE two different things. Stop and think about this news. It's nothing to get your dick hard about. IF Nintendo really wanted to go in for the kill, they'd have DQ9 on Wii. And, hell, DQ10 might be, but it's not going to be out for a long time obviously. This gives Sony some time to make some power plays.
DQ9 is just stopgap so the Wii userbase can build up enough for DQ10 to move a few million units on the day of release.
After this news (and hell, even before it because they would've had to know about DQ9 not having anything to do with them), I can guarantee you that they are going to do everything they possibly can to have the next console DQ on PS3.
Why? Making it on the Wii would mean that it gets to be a sub 10 million dollar game, rather than a game that would cost tens of millions of dollars on the PS3. It's not difficult to see that developing on the much cheaper console is a better financial decision. What with DQ's kingmaker rep, they'll sell 4 million units regardless of what platform the game is released on. They would simply make more money on the Wii since development is far cheaper.
There's really little reason for them to go back to Sony.
Remember when 3rd parties fled Nintendo due to royalty and financial reasons during the PS1/N64 era? Same thing is happening here, except devs are leaving Sony because it is too expensive to develop on.
It doesn't matter how much money Sony throws at SE. If it's clear that the PS3 has a small userbase and the Wii has a bigger one, DQ will go to the Wii. I predict it will in fact. See my avatar?
The PS3 is restocked in many places around Japan and still isn't selling out, while the Wii is taking over shit. Sony is fucked in Japan period end of story. Until FFXIII comes out don't expect any big surges in the PS3's popularity.
It doesn't matter how much money Sony throws at SE. If it's clear that the PS3 has a small userbase and the Wii has a bigger one, DQ will go to the Wii. I predict it will in fact. See my avatar?
The PS3 is restocked in many places around Japan and still isn't selling out, while the Wii is taking over shit. Sony is fucked in Japan period end of story. Until FFXIII comes out don't expect any big surges in the PS3's popularity.
Like I said, Japanese gamers will go where DQ goes. So they sell ~4 million units either way. . .except on the Wii it is undeniable that they'd make a better profit.
If things are already this bad for Sony in Japan, they should have had DQ9 on Wii instead of using it as a stepping stone to Wii.
It's not immature to say that Sony is not dead. Because they're not. It is, on the other hand, very immature to act like you can predict the end of Sony based on DQ9 being on the fucking DS.
If things are already this bad for Sony in Japan, they should have had DQ9 on Wii instead of using it as a stepping stone to Wii for DQ10.
And let's not forget, Japanese gamers go crazy for FF as well -- not as much as they do for DQ, but regardless, it'll sell systems. The market is still competitive dudes. Gamers aren't going to forget that FF13 is for PS3.
It's not immature to say that Sony is not dead. Because they're not. It is, on the other hand, very immature to act like you can predict the end of Sony based on DQ9 being on the fucking DS.
You talk about Japan like it's the only place that matters. I won't argue that Sony needs some damage control. But holy shit, let's wait and see what happens before we start making the tombstone for Sony only like a month after PS3 launched.
But it is even more myopic and naive to think that Sony's poor financial siutation, the low, low PS3 shipment numbers, the loss of DQ IX, the loss of timed exclusivity of GTA4, the negative mass media buzz on the PS3 and the positive media buzz for both the Wii and 360 aren't signs that there is "blood in the water".
Who said that tvc
the 360 is raperaping the PS3 here at home, and the Wii is holding the broomhandle too
the 360 is raperaping the PS3 here at home, and the Wii is holding the broomhandle too
If Sony gets owned in every market this gen, I hope 360 comes out on top (overall). I'm not buying a Wii. If Nintendo wins the console war, I'm done playing video games.
the 360 is raperaping the PS3 here at home, and the Wii is holding the broomhandle too
If Sony gets owned in every market this gen, I hope 360 comes out on top (overall). I'm not buying a Wii. If Nintendo wins the console war, I'm done playing video games.
That's a bit extreme.
the 360 is raperaping the PS3 here at home, and the Wii is holding the broomhandle too
If Sony gets owned in every market this gen, I hope 360 comes out on top (overall). I'm not buying a Wii. If Nintendo wins the console war, I'm done playing video games.
That's a bit extreme.
the 360 is raperaping the PS3 here at home, and the Wii is holding the broomhandle too
If Sony gets owned in every market this gen, I hope 360 comes out on top (overall). I'm not buying a Wii. If Nintendo wins the console war, I'm done playing video games.
the 360 is raperaping the PS3 here at home, and the Wii is holding the broomhandle too
If Sony gets owned in every market this gen, I hope 360 comes out on top (overall). I'm not buying a Wii. If Nintendo wins the console war, I'm done playing video games.
tvc have you atleast attempted to play wii sports multiplayer?
the 360 is raperaping the PS3 here at home, and the Wii is holding the broomhandle too
If Sony gets owned in every market this gen, I hope 360 comes out on top (overall). I'm not buying a Wii. If Nintendo wins the console war, I'm done playing video games.
wah wah :lol
I suppose you'd rather be playing the $800 Xbox 720 in 2010, and buying $80 games. Can't wait to see how the public responds to that.
the 360 is raperaping the PS3 here at home, and the Wii is holding the broomhandle too
If Sony gets owned in every market this gen, I hope 360 comes out on top (overall). I'm not buying a Wii. If Nintendo wins the console war, I'm done playing video games.
wah wah :lol
I suppose you'd rather be playing the $800 Xbox 720 in 2010, and buying $80 games. Can't wait to see how the public responds to that.
When the fuck did I say that? You're an idiot. If Sony and MS take a beating, they're going to realize it and if anything offer consoles that are cheaper next time around.
the 360 is raperaping the PS3 here at home, and the Wii is holding the broomhandle too
If Sony gets owned in every market this gen, I hope 360 comes out on top (overall). I'm not buying a Wii. If Nintendo wins the console war, I'm done playing video games.
wah wah :lol
I suppose you'd rather be playing the $800 Xbox 720 in 2010, and buying $80 games. Can't wait to see how the public responds to that.
When the fuck did I say that? You're an idiot. If Sony and MS take a beating, they're going to realize it and if anything offer consoles that are cheaper next time around.
And if they win we'll get $800 consoles and you'll be sitting on your ass somewhere arguing about how the price is great because oh it offers so much to the consumer!
No. I hate Nintendo.
Waggle is a good idea but to use it for every fucking game is a betrayal of console gaming.
Good to know.No. I hate Nintendo.
Waggle is a good idea but to use it for every fucking game is a betrayal of console gaming.
Not every game uses waggle.
Actually, I'll probably buy the $500 one when the time is right.
Oh, and PS3 actually has games and will have games that'll interest me.
FF, MGS, Assassin's Creed, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Lair, Warhawk, Virtua Tennis, Virtua Fighter, Motorstorm, Ninja Gaiden.
These are the ones I'm interested in and know of right NOW. By this time next year, PS3's going to have so many awesome games announced.
Sony might be in some trouble, but it's beyond foolish to count them out. It still has potential and I honestly cannot see it flopping.
AC, Virtua Tennis, and Ninja Gaiden aren't exclusive. In fact, Ninja Gaiden is on the fucking Xbox 1. Only the Sonybots are excited about that game.
FFXIII looks gay.
MGS and DMC4 are now rumoed to be heading to the 360.
Motorstorm, Heavenly Storm, Lair, and a few others look great in terms of the graphics, but the gameplay seems thin.
This leaves with the only truly worthwhile ps3 game: White Knight Story.
Really? You played these games?
QuoteReally? You played these games?
No, I can tell. Either through impressions or the way the games are being presented.
It looks better than XII.
Why do you keep bringing up how these games aren't going to the Wii when 360 is my main pick for next gen console?Because you're accusing me of being some sbot.
QuoteIt looks better than XII.
No. It does not. Despite XII's lack of story, atleast it attempted to mature the series. XIII looks like say some gay ass animu.
Yeah, if pushing forward on the analog stick while the game plays itself is progress, then I guess FFXII has succeeded there.
Atleast XII doesn't look like a distinguished mentally-challenged animu.
It's not against the law to be disinterested in Nintendo
Let there be no disinterest into that which is created under the auspices of the House That Yamauchi Built; nor let there be aspersions cast thereof; nor let those who would seek to impugn the character of Nintendo product have voice; and let their silence condemn it neither.
Quote from: DiablosIt's not against the law to be disinterested in Nintendo
Not true.Quote from: the bylaws of ther District of Columbia, Writ 1161.18.5, Section 88, paragraph 12Let there be no disinterest into that which is created under the auspices of the House That Yamauchi Built; nor let there be aspersions cast thereof; nor let those who would seek to impugn the character of Nintendo product have voice; and let their silence condemn it neither.
Diablos youre sad and funny at the same time
I should try to bait you on that GAF thread. It'd be a meltdown of epic proportions.
But bleh, Im a busy guy. Ill just say it'd definately be funny seeing.
Either you blatantly stole that from GAF or you have a joke character there, Patel :P
Tuesday, 12 December 2006
Dragon Quest on DS: What It Means
Topic: Japan,Portable Gaming
I think everyone can agree that today's announcement that Dragon Quest IX will appear on Nintendo DS is shocking and meaningful, but I imagine that not everyone is quite sure why. Certainly it is a bad day to be Sony, who just lost another major exclusive. Dragon Quest VIII was the best-selling PlayStation 2 game in Japan. Not the best-selling RPG or the best-selling Square Enix game -- the single biggest PS2 game, ever.
Beyond that, though, there are many things to consider, which I'll be trying to work out after the jump (or below, depending on how you got here).
There were rumblings that Square Enix would indeed announce Dragon Quest IX at this press event. Mostly because they wouldn't hold a big to-do like this without something really major to show, and the other options -- a spin-off, or a remake of an older game -- weren't going to cut it.
However, there was one big reason that they wouldn't show off DQIX -- because it's too early to decide what next-generation system should be the home of Japan's biggest franchise. Square Enix has traditionally waited to see what the outcome of the console wars would be before committing Dragon Quest to a platform. This is why DQVII and DQVIII arrived so late in the lifecycles of PlayStation 1 and 2, respectively -- because Square Enix didn't start development until they were sure the audience was there.
But there was a third outcome that none of us had considered, and that was that DQIX might appear on Nintendo DS. If we take as gospel the fact that Dragon Quest goes to the system with the highest userbase, it makes sense. DS is on track to outsell every other game console in the history of Japan.
Not to mention the fact that the DS, both as a product and in its branding and image, is an embodiment of the feeling that the DQ series seeks to embrace. DQ is played by hardcore gamer nerds, sure, but it's also for little kids and moms and dads and retirees. It's a simple, accessible game for everybody. It's Japan's equivalent of Disney movies.
In that sense, why not put it on DS? The only real barrier was that the Dragon Quest games had always been on home consoles. But it's getting to the point where there's no difference. Sure, it's not going to look as pretty as Dragon Quest VIII, but the screenshots that have been released prove that the Nintendo DS has no trouble with Akira Toriyama's art style. Plus, DQVIII was really the only game in the series that exuded any sort of technical prowess, anyway. Dragon Quest 7 looked like total ass for a PSone game and Japan bought four million of them.
DQIX might be the first four-million-selling game on Nintendo DS.
That's something else. Square Enix stands to rake it in on this. They could spend three years and 30 million dollars making DQIX for PlayStation 3, then barely scrape that money back. Or they could make a killing on DQIX while they wait. You might call this opportunistic; I call it Nintendo's business strategy coming into its own. You might say that this heralds the death of home gaming consoles; I say there's no reason Wii can't do the same thing.
Also requiring some thought is the new direction the gameplay is taking. Dragon Quest VIII was a staunchly traditional RPG that outright rejected change -- besides the graphics, it felt very much like a game from fifteen years ago. But Dragon Quest IX features a real-time battle system and a four-player mode. Square Enix isn't particularly forthcoming about how the four-player online game and the single-player mode will be balanced, or which is the "main" mode. But since it'll be released next year, we won't have to wait long to find out.
Speaking of which, the timing of this announcement must also be considered. It's the week before Jump Festa, of course, at which Square Enix will have a sprawling booth filled with playable, anticipated titles. But it's also just weeks before the release of Dragon Quest Monsters Joker, a Pokemon-styled monster-collecting-battling spinoff of the main series.
DQMJ was already pretty much guaranteed to go over a million units on the strength of the franchise and the fact that it looks pretty damn good. But now, Dragon Quest lovers know that they'll need a Nintendo DS to play the next game in their favorite series. And with a spinoff game out this month, quite a few of them will decide that it's the right time to take the plunge.
I don't even want to speculate, now, what Nintendo DS sales will be in Japan over the holiday. It'll make the 900,000 units they moved in November here in the US look like a rounding error.
There are still, I'm sure, some holdouts who believe DQIX to be a stopgap measure and that the tenth game in the series could still appear on PlayStation 3. But it won't. Because between DQ Monsters this year and DQIX/DQ Swords the next, Square Enix is sending a very strong message to the Dragon Quest fan base: buy Nintendo hardware. They're not going to pull a fast one on them a year from now and say, "Just kidding, suckers! If you want DQX, it's time to pony up 60,000 yen for PlayStation 3!"
Not going to happen. I think the only question that remains is whether they'll keep the series portable, or release DQX for the home. And ultimately the answer will only come after we see the sales of Wii and PS3. If Wii can dominate the market DS-style, then it's entirely possible.
But that's hardly guaranteed: for all Sony's problems, they're still Sony. And with Xbox 360 having completely shit the bed, PlayStation 3 is the only choice in Japan for anyone who's looking for the full high-end upscale entertainment experience -- which, say what you will about Japan's taste in gaming, is still a whole lot of people. And they've got the lock on Final Fantasy.
And yet, if DQIX is truly a sign of a turning tide, the fact that the Nintendo DS is getting loaded up with Final Fantasy games (Revenant Wings, Crystal Chronicles, III, and God knows what else), it could be the Nintendo DS lineup that's seen as the true continuation of the Final Fantasy series, and the PS3 games might become less relevant. I know that sounds crazy but hey, Dragon Quest IX is on DS. Welcome to Crazytown.