yeah, it's about time the middle class went to war instead of trying to justify their serfdom
yeah, it's about time the middle class went to war instead of trying to justify their serfdom
:lol
Answer honestly. When you watch Michael Moore movies do you touch yourself?
I can't wait to see the right wing distinguished mentally-challenged fellow jamborees that will gather at any theater that will show this flick. That or threats of right wing violence to the theater owners and/or patrons who show the movie.
I don't understand how FOC has managed to spend years constantly trying to come up with zingers and snappy comebacks without getting any better at it. Don't humans' skills usually improve with practice? ???
I've never been a Moore fanboy, but I'm continualy amazed at the not just the level of bile thrown at him, but also the certaintude of it.
Like Triumph just mentioned, he got booed and branded kerrraazzy for pointing out that the Iraq war was built on lies. Fast forward a few years later and apart from a few deadenders, who actually would argue with what he said? Whatever, apparently a taint was placed upon him despite history proving him right.
Fuck, you'll be lucky to get your average conservative American (much less a wingnut) to accept the fact that in Canada people get to choose their own doctors and don't die waiting for treatments every day because, you know, OMG SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!
As a wingnut, I object - I accept those facts just fine; I just recognize that it's evil. ;)
Fuck, you'll be lucky to get your average conservative American (much less a wingnut) to accept the fact that in Canada people get to choose their own doctors and don't die waiting for treatments every day because, you know, OMG SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!
Fuck, you'll be lucky to get your average conservative American (much less a wingnut) to accept the fact that in Canada people get to choose their own doctors and don't die waiting for treatments every day because, you know, OMG SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!
they do have to wait, all the damn time. So many people who have died after waiting months for cancer treatments
liberals don't know how the real world works :piss
So, THE PEEPLE giving their money to an institution (insurance company) that has no interest other than profit and has been demonstrated to deny care when it becomes too costly = a ok
-but-
THE PEEPLE giving their money to a non-profit, GUBMINT RUN institution (public option, single payer system, what have you) that won't deny their care in the interest of a few margin points = TEH GREAT SATAN
I just want to make sure we're clear on all this.
One's voluntary. The other's compulsory. The compulsory one also involves people that pay in nothing using a lot.
So yeah, your framing aside, pretty much.
Fuck, you'll be lucky to get your average conservative American (much less a wingnut) to accept the fact that in Canada people get to choose their own doctors and don't die waiting for treatments every day because, you know, OMG SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!
they do have to wait, all the damn time. So many people who have died after waiting months for cancer treatments
liberals don't know how the real world works :piss
Are you talking about Canadia or how the American health insurance industry will kick off the sick for leaving a form line blank or jack the rates up on their employer by a million bucks a year magically after someone gets diagnosed with cancer?
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I love when a conservative (not really lumping Jdub in there since he has his own thing going on) throws out the "gubmint cain't do a durned thing right!" line, wherein I get to remind them that our military is a devious, evil gubmint run organization and don't they support the troops?
I have no problem with Moore's politics, in fact, I generally agree with all of it, but his lack of any subtlety is what makes him hard for me to stomach. Jon Stewart is much more amiable.spoiler (click to show/hide)and he's way hotter :tauntaun[close]
I love when a conservative (not really lumping Jdub in there since he has his own thing going on) throws out the "gubmint cain't do a durned thing right!" line, wherein I get to remind them that our military is a devious, evil gubmint run organization and don't they support the troops?
Remember Katrina? Government sure messed that up, why trust them with anything else!
I don't understand how FOC has managed to spend years constantly trying to come up with zingers and snappy comebacks without getting any better at it. Don't humans' skills usually improve with practice? ???
I love when a conservative (not really lumping Jdub in there since he has his own thing going on) throws out the "gubmint cain't do a durned thing right!" line, wherein I get to remind them that our military is a devious, evil gubmint run organization and don't they support the troops?
Remember Katrina? Government sure messed that up, why trust them with anything else!
Katrina is what happens when people who don't want government to do things run government... they appoint people who are unqualified to do their jobs to key positions and then say "who could have predicted?" when they fail at performing their jobs.
But then again you know this, I'm guessing you're just practicing for your future career as the black Ann Coulter.
Veidt- the more "socialist" countries seem to have done better in recovering from the recession. Well, them and China which is more dictatorial. Guess worshiping the FREE MARKET as Mammon or something wasn't the way to go.
So, wait, right wing fucktard ass-hats like O'Reilly, Tucker Carlson, Newt Gingrich, et al are never, ever called to accountability for broadcasting AS NEWS their intentionally contentious, logically fallacious claptrap.
So, wait, right wing fucktard ass-hats like O'Reilly, Tucker Carlson, Newt Gingrich, et al are never, ever called to accountability for broadcasting AS NEWS their intentionally contentious, logically fallacious claptrap.
Really?
So, wait, right wing fucktard ass-hats like O'Reilly, Tucker Carlson, Newt Gingrich, et al are never, ever called to accountability for broadcasting AS NEWS their intentionally contentious, logically fallacious claptrap.
Really?
Yeah, from my perspective it looks like The Daily Show and such will call them on their shit, but actual other news venues do not, and they themselves do not offer retractions. Am I wrong?
You said "never ever." I've seen plenty of newspapers, magazines, and Internet sites call out Fox News repeatedly--and deservedly so.
I don't know whether they've offered retractions (I've only watched about 20 minutes of Fox News in my entire life). I assume they don't, but that has nothing to do with whether they're called on to be accountable.
You said "never ever." I've seen plenty of newspapers, magazines, and Internet sites call out Fox News repeatedly--and deservedly so.
I don't know whether they've offered retractions (I've only watched about 20 minutes of Fox News in my entire life). I assume they don't, but that has nothing to do with whether they're called on to be accountable.
Fair enough; I am caught up by my hyperbole, "never, ever" is an overstatement. And to further limit the validity of my observation, everything I see is filtered just by virtue of getting my news in Japan. Instead of watching US news shows and reading US papers, the times I actually see US news reported are when something has been shown to be irresponsibly reported.
Good grief, I just realized why so many Japanese people think the US is crazy, lazy, misguided, dishonest or whatever... it's this filter of distance. Wow. I've been here too long.
tentacles, enjokosai, short short skirts, maid bars, and love pillows. hikkikomori, dragon quest, gundam, and the rape of nanking. used panty vending machines, macroencephalitis made sexxxy, and dcharlie. did i miss anything?
Moore partially redeemed himself with Sicko.
As long as it isn't intellectually dishonest like Bowling for Columbine or use six degrees of separation logic like in Fahrenheit 9/11, I'll watch it.
tentacles, enjokosai, short short skirts, maid bars, and love pillows. hikkikomori, dragon quest, gundam, and the rape of nanking. used panty vending machines, macroencephalitis made sexxxy, and dcharlie. did i miss anything?
I think Maurice used to be a better troll. Or maybe Astrolad just makes every other troll look bad.
Understood, but let's say we slap a bowtie on PD...do you really thing he'll bring a scary NOI vibe, or will he come across as conservative weanie? (PD, not hatin', but lets be honest)
tentacles, enjokosai, short short skirts, maid bars, and love pillows. hikkikomori, dragon quest, gundam, and the rape of nanking. used panty vending machines, macroencephalitis made sexxxy, and dcharlie. did i miss anything?
Is googling those work safe :-\