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Title: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 02, 2009, 02:11:19 PM
http://www.tonepublications.com/music/beatles-box-in-stereo-and-mono/ (http://www.tonepublications.com/music/beatles-box-in-stereo-and-mono/)

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It’s clear that the team of engineers responsible for the four-year project ensured that the world’s most important and famous pop catalog finally received the care it’s always deserved no matter what mix is heard.

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Such are the near-miraculous improvements in the key areas of information retrieval, hidden details, palpable physicality, expanded midrange, transient presence, and frequency response.

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The changes wrought by the remasters are dramatic.

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Please Please Me is distinguished by a previously vacant fullness, richness, and enormity. There’s discernible air and echo around the swooping vocals on “Misery,” and resolute imaging on “I Saw Her Standing There”—quite a thrill. And the bottom end—quite possibly the single-biggest enhancement on all of the remasters—registers with a forceful thump rather than a dull, empty thud. No longer an undefined aural morass, “Twist and Shout” explodes with a clean yet musical clarity, the singing more distinctive and immediate, the instruments possessing true timbres and resonant clatter. And who ever notices the expressive “Yeah!” at the end of the take?

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Similarly, the mono With the Beatles unfolds with ear-bending vibrancy and liveliness. The rolling vocal harmonizing on “All My Loving” astounds. Across-the-board upgrades in airiness, dimensionality, depth, size, and Paul McCartney’s vastly underrated bass lines are detectable on every song.

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Vocal precision, smoothness, and extension become even more pronounced on Help! and Rubber Soul. Ditto for the realistic bottom end, long absent on most Beatles recordings. McCartney’s bass and Ringo Starr’s percussion ride side-by-side, and smart albeit illuminating shades and accents

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For kicks, comparing the 1987 digital issue of Sgt. Pepper’s to the new remasters lends perspective to just how awful the former are, and how amazing Capitol’s 2009 entries sound. Whereas the previous edition of the landmark record comes across as tinny, lifeless, shrill, flat, and canned—to the extent where listeners are forced to mentally fill in parts they think (and know) should be present—both versions of the revised Sgt. Pepper’s present the album as an entirely new adventure filled with immense detail, holographic soundstages, authentic studio dimensions, and shocking instrumental and textural surfaces that heretofore have been missing in action. Tracks such as “For the Benefit of Mr. Kite” seemingly float on an ethereal bed of studio effects, with tremendous top-to-bottom frequency extension revealing trippy surprises such as bells, wood blocks, congas, and various other percussive trinkets that possess a reach-out-and-touch presence.

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No painstaking decisions involve Abbey Road or Let It Be, as only stereo versions exist. Each album unfolds like never before—particularly Abbey Road. Thicker tracks such as “She’s So Heavy” come on as indestructible walls of sound replete with phenomenal low-end weight, superb definition, vivid dynamics, and unlimited ceilings and floors. Starr’s drumming on “The End” is absorbing and titanic; it sounds so good, it’s almost difficult to believe this is the Beatles, which, unless one had unlimited funds for collectable LPs, have never sounded great. Depending on one’s perspective, such a conclusion is the ultimate sign that the folks at Capitol and Abbey Road Studios not only succeeded but surpassed most expectations. For if the Beatles remasters signify the last great hurrah of the compact disc, at least the format is going out in style.

Both box sets are sold out at Amazon.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 02, 2009, 02:20:29 PM
Band sucks anyway, their loss.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: archie4208 on September 02, 2009, 02:22:46 PM
Isn't the mono box supposed to be extremely limited?  I imagine that will resell for a ton in a few years.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 02, 2009, 02:25:35 PM
Who would want something in mono? :yuck
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: drew on September 02, 2009, 02:27:37 PM
evidently beatlesfags
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 02, 2009, 02:38:16 PM
Their early albums were recorded and mixed for mono.  ::)
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 02, 2009, 02:41:25 PM
So why would you want to hear them in mono? :lol

That's like saying that my grandparents originally made my mom's beef stew from gross well water, instead of clean, filtered tap water. So let's make it out of gross well water!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 02, 2009, 02:49:49 PM
So why would you want to hear them in mono? :lol

That's like saying that my grandparents originally made my mom's beef stew from gross well water, instead of clean, filtered tap water. So let's make it out of gross well water!

That's a FoC level analogy. You can use new ingredients when you make a new soup, but you can't use new recordings (ingredients) to remaster the albums. You have to use the same 2-track or 4-track tapes from the early or mid 60s.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 02, 2009, 02:50:34 PM
Yeah, we don't have computers or anything nowadays. Mono. :lol
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 02, 2009, 02:51:06 PM
Why would you want to watch old movies in 4:3 aspect ratio when we have widescreen HDTVs now?!?!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Akala on September 02, 2009, 02:52:22 PM
$200? yikes.

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 02, 2009, 02:52:29 PM
"Computers can do anything!" - Guy who wrote Die Hard 4
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 02, 2009, 02:54:09 PM
I do think it's unfortunate that they didn't take the opportunity to do SOMETHING about the original stereo mixes.  I don't think anyone is really happy with those and some sort of remixing would be beneficial.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 02, 2009, 03:07:05 PM
Why would you want to watch old movies in 4:3 aspect ratio when we have widescreen HDTVs now?!?!
:-*
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 03, 2009, 12:59:13 AM
well, damned if i'm paying for them all over again. Set utorrent to 'download', Mr Sulu.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Akala on September 03, 2009, 01:41:51 AM
well, damned if i'm paying for them all over again. Set utorrent to 'download', Mr Sulu.

I think this will be the least downloaded thing ever.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 03, 2009, 01:58:21 AM
well, damned if i'm paying for them all over again. Set utorrent to 'download', Mr Sulu.

I think this will be the least downloaded thing ever.

after 'Akala's Greatest Hits', presumably
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 03, 2009, 01:59:33 AM
How much louder are they?   ::)

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We hope that we have made them sound a bit more in keeping with the time, but one of the things we did agree that we would be very cautious about is limiting, which is where you make them as loud as you can. That's the common process of most recordings today - make 'em as loud as possible so that they're as loud as the last band. We agreed that we would not do that, because these are 40-year-old recordings and they don't deserve to have the dynamics of their songs
destroyed. At the same time, we felt, for the stereo master, that a small amount of limiting that didn't destroy the dynamics would be acceptable, so they are a bit louder.

http://www.azcentral.com/thingstodo/music/articles/2009/09/02/20090902beatlesremaster.html
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Akala on September 03, 2009, 02:02:51 AM
well, damned if i'm paying for them all over again. Set utorrent to 'download', Mr Sulu.

I think this will be the least downloaded thing ever.

after 'Akala's Greatest Hits', presumably

I'M BIG IN SLOVENIA
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 03, 2009, 05:26:02 AM
Happy enough to steal their haircuts though, aren't you, you big hippy

spoiler (click to show/hide)
...yes that's all i got
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Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 03, 2009, 05:28:54 AM
can't wait to download
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on September 03, 2009, 04:45:37 PM
My parents are probably going to buy this stuff when it comes out, so I'll just borrow the discs from them and put them on my iPod... unless there's a suprise iTunes Store announcement coming...
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: DJ_Tet on September 03, 2009, 05:44:05 PM
the whole situation sucks...the mono releases shouldn't be so limited.  How much are those going for now anyway?

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Brehvolution on September 03, 2009, 06:01:49 PM
Can't buy me Love a $200 box set.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Snuflupagulus on September 03, 2009, 08:04:13 PM
the whole situation sucks...the mono releases shouldn't be so limited.  How much are those going for now anyway?
EMI stated that they will be issuing more of the Mono box set.  Probably after the 9th, though.  At the Beatles webstore you can still pre-order for delivery in October.  They'll gladly lift $269 + shipping from your pocket.  Bunch of other sites are still taking pre-orders.  Amazon's confirmed they will be getting more Mono at some point.  Free shipping and unless they gouge, they'll probably sell it at ~$230, the previous pre-order price.

The only unknown is whether EMI/Apple will continue to claim that the Mono is limited.  The whole 10,000 thing turned out to be bull; but no one will state if there is some silent limit in the future.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Dickie Dee on September 03, 2009, 09:27:00 PM
Can't wait, don't really buy much physical music these days though.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 04, 2009, 12:56:02 AM
Some asshole stole my copy of Abbey Road, so I'll be buying it again.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Diunx on September 04, 2009, 01:03:36 AM
So which one of you fine people will buy me a copy?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 04, 2009, 01:04:51 AM
here's my review: faaaaarrrrrt
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: DJ_Tet on September 04, 2009, 01:20:39 AM
the whole situation sucks...the mono releases shouldn't be so limited.  How much are those going for now anyway?
EMI stated that they will be issuing more of the Mono box set.  Probably after the 9th, though.  At the Beatles webstore you can still pre-order for delivery in October.  They'll gladly lift $269 + shipping from your pocket.  Bunch of other sites are still taking pre-orders.  Amazon's confirmed they will be getting more Mono at some point.  Free shipping and unless they gouge, they'll probably sell it at ~$230, the previous pre-order price.

The only unknown is whether EMI/Apple will continue to claim that the Mono is limited.  The whole 10,000 thing turned out to be bull; but no one will state if there is some silent limit in the future.


That's better then.  I can't afford it now but that doesn't mean it isn't something I'd like to own in the future.  $230+ isn't TOO bad I suppose.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 04, 2009, 01:24:06 AM
here's my review: faaaaarrrrrt

IQ of 183, ladies and gentlemen.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Snuflupagulus on September 04, 2009, 01:38:25 AM
That's better then.  I can't afford it now but that doesn't mean it isn't something I'd like to own in the future.  $230+ isn't TOO bad I suppose.

You can sign-up for an Amazon alert: http://www.amazon.com/Beatles-Mono-Box-Set/dp/B002BSHXJA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1252038577&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Beatles-Mono-Box-Set/dp/B002BSHXJA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1252038577&sr=8-2)

Even though the Mono set is more expensive than the Stereo, seems worth it.  That second article Malek linked states that stereo for the first two albums remains vocals in one ear, instruments in another.  It's appropriate to the time, but, uh, eww.  I think that's the set that Prole reviewed.  He's probably in a stupefied rapture listening to the Mono set. :drool  Or pooping.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: chronovore on September 04, 2009, 01:51:14 AM
Man, I want this collection, but I probably have to go for Mono. Whenever I listen to anything with headphones, the vocals in one, instruments in the other mix is really distracting.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 04, 2009, 02:49:40 AM
How much louder are they?   ::)
Man, I came in here to post this.

The stereo version has already leaked for anyone that is interested, and in FLAC no less
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 04, 2009, 02:52:48 AM
Man, I want this collection, but I probably have to go for Mono. Whenever I listen to anything with headphones, the vocals in one, instruments in the other mix is really distracting.

yeah, but you can unplug one speaker for instant karaoke!

OH SORRY DREW DID I OFFEND YOU BY MENTIONING KARAOKE

KARAOKE
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 04, 2009, 03:17:46 AM
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One of my best recent memories was splitting my headphones to listen to Jimi Hendrix's 1983 A Merman I Would Choose to Be with my ex-gf after discretely making love in a Prague hostel.

I'd rather continuously make love  :dur
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: ManaByte on September 04, 2009, 03:22:34 AM
The stereo mix sounds distinguished mentally-challenged. I'll stick with my current mp3s. 
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 04, 2009, 02:38:55 PM
The stereo mix sounds distinguished mentally-challenged. I'll stick with my current mp3s. 

...it's the exact same mix.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 04, 2009, 03:47:19 PM
http://www.vancouversun.com/Back+Beatles+masterpieces+remastered/1963263/story.html (http://www.vancouversun.com/Back+Beatles+masterpieces+remastered/1963263/story.html)
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What leaps out on virtually every album is a sense of in-the-studio presence that hasn’t been heard before. The rockers rock way harder, largely because the remastering process has brought out the McCartney-Starr rhythm section in a big way, making the bass and drum foundation sound beefier than we’ve ever known.

The gentler songs sparkle, with space around the guitar picking of Lennon and Harrison that make it seem as if they’re sitting in the room with you. Harmonies and background vocals come into their own with fresh clarity. Guitar chords slash through the speakers with aggression, pianos boogie with authority and the psychedelic numbers seem more colourful than ever.

While each release offers its share of revelations, the real stunners are found in the later, more ambitious undertakings, like The Beatles (better known as The White Album) and Abbey Road.

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 04, 2009, 03:56:11 PM

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Back+Must+hear+reissued+Beatles+tracks/1963314/story.html (http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Back+Must+hear+reissued+Beatles+tracks/1963314/story.html)
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Here’s a random selection of must-hear tracks, all from the stereo albums:

1. Baby’s In Black (from Beatles For Sale): Listen for: Ringo Starr’s pounding bass drum on the last verse (“She thinks of him...”)

2. Tell Me What You See (from Help!): Listen for: new-found punch and presence, notably in the electric piano-and-drum break.

3. Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) (from Rubber Soul): Listen for: bright, wide-open space, which makes you feel like you’re in Abbey Road studios.

4. Taxman (from Revolver): Listen for: Paul McCartney’s inspired bass playing, which has never come through so clearly on George Harrison’s wicked rocker.

5. She’s Leaving Home (from Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band): Listen for: the pure, sweet tones of the string section, with a cello that sounds positively fat.

6. Strawberry Fields Forever (from Magical Mystery Tour): Listen for: Starr’s heavy drumming kicking in on the second verse of John Lennon’s psychedelic masterpiece. It’s actually startling.

7. Dear Prudence (from The Beatles): Listen for: the delicate, pin-drop picking as Lennon spins out the distinctive guitar phrase anchoring the song.

8. Julia (from The Beatles): Listen for: Lennon’s understated vocal, as if he were singing in your ear.

9. I’ve Got a Feeling (from Let It Be): Listen for: the liftoff that happens when Harrison comes in like a freight train and McCartney screams.

10. Because (from Abbey Road): Listen for: the angelic harmonies filling every space in the room. Truth be told, a listen to all of what was once Side 2 of the album should convince skeptics about the remasters.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 04, 2009, 03:57:23 PM

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Back+Must+hear+reissued+Beatles+tracks/1963314/story.html (http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Back+Must+hear+reissued+Beatles+tracks/1963314/story.html)
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Here’s a random selection of must-hear tracks, all from the stereo albums:

1. Baby’s In Black (from Beatles For Sale): Listen for: Ringo Starr’s pounding bass drum on the last verse (“She thinks of him...”)

2. Tell Me What You See (from Help!): Listen for: new-found punch and presence, notably in the electric piano-and-drum break.

3. Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) (from Rubber Soul): Listen for: bright, wide-open space, which makes you feel like you’re in Abbey Road studios.

4. Taxman (from Revolver): Listen for: Paul McCartney’s inspired bass playing, which has never come through so clearly on George Harrison’s wicked rocker.

5. She’s Leaving Home (from Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band): Listen for: the pure, sweet tones of the string section, with a cello that sounds positively fat.

6. Strawberry Fields Forever (from Magical Mystery Tour): Listen for: Starr’s heavy drumming kicking in on the second verse of John Lennon’s psychedelic masterpiece. It’s actually startling.

7. Dear Prudence (from The Beatles): Listen for: the delicate, pin-drop picking as Lennon spins out the distinctive guitar phrase anchoring the song.

8. Julia (from The Beatles): Listen for: Lennon’s understated vocal, as if he were singing in your ear.

9. I’ve Got a Feeling (from Let It Be): Listen for: the liftoff that happens when Harrison comes in like a freight train and McCartney screams.

10. Because (from Abbey Road): Listen for: the angelic harmonies filling every space in the room. Truth be told, a listen to all of what was once Side 2 of the album should convince skeptics about the remasters.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 05, 2009, 12:51:07 AM
[youtube=560,345]JAqRaKgtrzA[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: ManaByte on September 05, 2009, 01:29:15 AM
 Let it Be...Naked is the superior version.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 05, 2009, 01:52:45 AM
They weren't kidding about that bass.  :o
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Trent Dole on September 05, 2009, 01:58:01 AM
The full stereo set was on what and waffles the other day...
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and is on mininova now, too. :shh
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Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 05, 2009, 01:59:31 AM
OMG @ the harmonies in "Octopus' garden"


Trent, SiRE?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Trent Dole on September 05, 2009, 02:00:57 AM
OMG @ the harmonies in "Octopus' garden"


Trent, SiRE?
yeah.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 05, 2009, 02:01:54 AM
this is like making flannel girl more beautiful. Who knew that it could be done?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 05, 2009, 02:22:02 AM
[youtube=560,345]uWo8bdhs8Gk[/youtube]


wow

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 05, 2009, 02:35:27 AM
[youtube=560,345]JAqRaKgtrzA[/youtube]

 ???

aerosmith's version is still better
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 05, 2009, 02:41:41 AM
0.000001/10
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 05, 2009, 02:47:52 AM
Uh no, that's not a troll. If I was trolling I'd say God Head or Ray Charles' Eleanor Rigby>Beatle's version.

Come Together isn't a good song no matter who does it, BUT Aerosmith's version is definitely the superior version
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 05, 2009, 02:49:23 AM
/me searches for an eyesroll emitocon to express his feelings.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 05, 2009, 03:04:22 AM
Now in terms of GOOD Beatles songs...

Fiona Apple's version of Across The Universe is way better than the original. That might be the only one I can think of though
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 05, 2009, 03:29:16 AM
aerosmith :rofl
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Dickie Dee on September 05, 2009, 03:49:00 AM
Also, holy fuck at Please, Please Me  :o

I've never been much of a fan of pre-Help! Beatles, I'll have to give it another pass.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Akala on September 05, 2009, 04:16:38 AM
remasters are better than expected.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 05, 2009, 05:38:47 AM
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Fiona Apple's version of Across The Universe is way better than the original. That might be the only one I can think of though

i'd have to agree with this one, actually ...

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Come Together isn't a good song no matter who does it

... but wtf
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: archie4208 on September 05, 2009, 10:56:47 PM
DL'ed the stereo box in FLAC.  Hey Bulldog's bassline sounds amazing. :o
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: CurseoftheGods on September 05, 2009, 11:11:48 PM
DL'ed the stereo box in FLAC.  Hey Bulldog's bassline sounds amazing. :o

Where did you get it? PM me please. :-*
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Barry Egan on September 06, 2009, 01:09:45 AM

Come Together isn't a good song no matter who does it 

:-|
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 06, 2009, 01:19:38 AM
[youtube=560,345]uWo8bdhs8Gk[/youtube]


wow



That's wild. I'm comparing it to the version I've had and been listening to for years now, this remasted version sounds so clean.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 06, 2009, 01:31:34 AM
Paul's voice is very clear; before it used to blend in with John's. And the bass is much more prominent.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 06, 2009, 02:46:09 AM
OMG @ "Strawberry Fields."
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 06, 2009, 03:08:10 AM
shit dude those youtubes you posted sold me but i can't afford these :(
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 06, 2009, 03:18:07 AM
shit dude those youtubes you posted sold me but i can't afford these :(
torrent or download; it's not like Paul or Yoko are hurting for money. Though I do appreciate what the engineers did. It's as if I just heard "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" for the very first time just now. OMG at the tape loops and John's haunting voice.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 06, 2009, 03:20:05 AM
amazon.ca lowered the price of the stereo set.

Bought.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 06, 2009, 03:27:32 AM
I'm listening to the stereo mix of Fool on the Hill and it's like holy shit....it's like a brand new song
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Bloodwake on September 06, 2009, 03:38:14 AM
COMEON FUCKING BITTORRENT DOWNLOAD THESE FASTER.

Positive response from EB. God, now I really want to listen to these.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 06, 2009, 11:16:01 AM
Wow, you're right, stereo is such a huge difference over mono.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 06, 2009, 11:43:59 AM
So wait, is it generally accepted that the first CD master of Sgt. Pepper kinda sucked?  I've only ever heard it on CD, and it never really did it for me but I can entertain the possibility that the recording was partly to blame.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 06, 2009, 12:23:50 PM
In My Life remastered is just wow
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 06, 2009, 12:27:28 PM
If Amazon wasn't sold out, I would have bought the Stereo one.  But the internet does provide, and early too.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: CurseoftheGods on September 06, 2009, 01:20:22 PM
Can someone please PM me where I could find the torrent? Mininova's version has the tags all fucked up. :(
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Bloodwake on September 06, 2009, 02:44:45 PM
Oh my god. I can't believe how much better this sounds.

It's like I'm listening to the band for the first time... AGAIN.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 06, 2009, 03:05:21 PM
that's awfully dramatic

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Barry Egan on September 06, 2009, 03:11:23 PM
that's awfully dramatic



:lol

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 06, 2009, 03:13:28 PM
that's awfully dramatic



 :lol

swaggaz is on fire today
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Diunx on September 06, 2009, 03:30:28 PM
Is this worth a torrent download? I already have a shitton of Beatles song.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 06, 2009, 03:56:33 PM
they're certainly a leap in quality, yes
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Bloodwake on September 06, 2009, 04:03:00 PM
The remasters are almost like taking everything that is bad tasting about a pile of shit with a fine tooth comb and coming up with a gourmet meal.

THAT'S HOW GOOD THEY ARE.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Diunx on September 06, 2009, 04:08:27 PM
So can I have a torrend link please? :hyper
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Trent Dole on September 06, 2009, 10:16:51 PM
Can someone please PM me where I could find the torrent? Mininova's version has the tags all fucked up. :(

... for fuck's sake :'(

*cancels*
Wow they have the underscorey crap in the tags and not just the folder names. Fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Trent Dole on September 06, 2009, 10:36:38 PM
I just don't feel like fixing all 230 files.
Can't say I blame you there.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: chronovore on September 06, 2009, 10:48:48 PM
Holy crap. Decent heaphones (Sennheiser HD555) and 320KB/s encoding is making this seriously sound entirely new. It's so good, it's distracting.

Where's the :vinylcry emoticon?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 06, 2009, 11:01:55 PM
Holy crap. Decent heaphones (Sennheiser HD555) and 320KB/s encoding is making this seriously sound entirely new. It's so good, it's distracting.

Where's the :vinylcry emoticon?

Yeah, I'm wondering if they'll do reprints of the vinyls now...not that I would buy them, these remasters were obviously done with CD in mind.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Trent Dole on September 06, 2009, 11:33:53 PM
Hm, only one song off The White Album is tagged weird on the sire version unless you count the release year eing 2009 on all of these as wrong.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 07, 2009, 12:56:48 AM
I've listened to most of the Mono releases now and while it's cool and all, I can't really see myself listening to them over the stereo mixes...Getting Better in stereo sounds so much fuller than the Mono version.  Some prickdick on GAF lambasted me for asking a simple question as to why he preferred the certain mono versions so much.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 07, 2009, 01:07:53 AM
Some prickdick on GAF lambasted me for asking a simple question as to why he preferred the certain mono versions so much.
I saw that. "Appalling to the senses" :lol

I'm inclined to say that the mono mixes generally sound better but it's really not fair for me to comment because I don't have a good pair of cans. Sounds pretty sweet on my shitty computer speakers though lol
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 07, 2009, 01:12:25 AM
I listened to the track he was referring to - She's Leaving Home.  He's right about the stereo mix being about a half-step lower in pitch...but other than that, it sounds fine.  A lot of the other tracks on Sgt. Peppers benefit entirely from the stereo mix - Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds sounds fucking brilliant, and you can actually hear George's backing guitar riff with the little pre-chorus, something I never even heard before.  Can't hear it on the mono mix.

I'm gonna guess it's going to come down to what you like more - authenticity to the original recording, or hearing the actual improvements better.  I tend to fall into the latter.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: pilonv1 on September 07, 2009, 03:11:35 AM
fuuuuuuuck

so buying the full box set of this
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 07, 2009, 03:21:25 AM
Listening to Abbey Road. Wow.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 07, 2009, 10:06:43 AM
I listened to the track he was referring to - She's Leaving Home.  He's right about the stereo mix being about a half-step lower in pitch...but other than that, it sounds fine.  A lot of the other tracks on Sgt. Peppers benefit entirely from the stereo mix - Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds sounds fucking brilliant, and you can actually hear George's backing guitar riff with the little pre-chorus, something I never even heard before.  Can't hear it on the mono mix.

I'm gonna guess it's going to come down to what you like more - authenticity to the original recording, or hearing the actual improvements better.  I tend to fall into the latter.

The ones I have on my ipod, PC, as mp3, listening to now, etc. are all from the stereo box.  But if I was going to spend $200-300 on the boxset, I would definitely go for mono.  I'm hoping it's not as rare as people are claiming.

and this is the first time in a while I've used my hd959s for music.  I need to do this more often.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 07, 2009, 12:14:17 PM
I listened to the track he was referring to - She's Leaving Home.  He's right about the stereo mix being about a half-step lower in pitch...but other than that, it sounds fine.  A lot of the other tracks on Sgt. Peppers benefit entirely from the stereo mix - Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds sounds fucking brilliant, and you can actually hear George's backing guitar riff with the little pre-chorus, something I never even heard before.  Can't hear it on the mono mix.

I'm gonna guess it's going to come down to what you like more - authenticity to the original recording, or hearing the actual improvements better.  I tend to fall into the latter.

The ones I have on my ipod, PC, as mp3, listening to now, etc. are all from the stereo box.  But if I was going to spend $200-300 on the boxset, I would definitely go for mono.  I'm hoping it's not as rare as people are claiming.

and this is the first time in a while I've used my hd959s for music.  I need to do this more often.

Yeah, I mean, what some people want to do is just get the mono set and then buy White, Let It Be, Abbey Road , Yellow Submarine on stereo...I don't really have a problem with that I guess.  The stero mixes of the first couple of albums are pretty odd sounding compared to the mono versions...but when you hit Help! and onwards, I tend to prefer the stereo over mono anyway.

I'll put everything up to Help as the mono versions on my iPod, and the rest keep the stereo mixes.  And yeah, listening to these albums with a nice pair of sennheisers is like omg
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 07, 2009, 01:46:34 PM
Re Mono v. Stereo

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/review-the-beatles-remasters-1963-66-219124 (http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/review-the-beatles-remasters-1963-66-219124)
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Two discs [Please Please Me and With the Beatles] in then, and mono wins for sheer visceral thrills and impact and overall sound. It's interesting to hear the extra separation and detail in the stereo versions, but in a direct A/B test, out of 28 songs, we only prefer one – Money – in its stereo incarnation.

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Aside from Rock And Roll Music, which is so much more muscular and raucous in mono, like A Hard Day's Night, Beatles For Sale's more ambitious and varied textures are well-served by the extra spread of stereo.

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Switching to the mono disc [on Help], what is lost in separation is gained in sheer balls and power, allowing you to hear exactly why Lennon would later refer to Ticket To Ride as "the first heavy metal record."

That said, it seems unlikely that anything other than the new stereo version of Help! will be most listeners' first port of call from now on. It's a truly spectacular record that sounds better than ever here, and the first in a series of stone cold classic albums that sees The Beatles rivalled in the rock canon only by The Rolling Stones' Beggars Banquet/Let It Bleed/Sticky Fingers/Exile On Main Street sequence.

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Whereas the mono Please Please Me is the hard-punching essential purchase and the stereo version a mere curio, Rubber Soul in mono is grainy and swamped. The new stereo disc gives the arrangements the space they need to bloom, exceeding the '60s mono and stereo mixes and the 1987 compact disc.

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How does Revolver sound on the new mono and stereo? Unlike Rubber Soul, it's something of a mixed bag. Taxman has much more punch in mono, and the stark hard-panned separation of rhythm section left and vocals right on the stereo disc makes us wish that the stereo image had been given the same treatment that revitalised Drive My Car.

Eleanor Rigby is another case in point. 1999's Yellow Submarine Songtrack album featured a beautifully-remixed and remastered stereo version of the song that saw Paul's lead vocal moved into the centre of the stereo picture, positioning it perfectly within the string octet and backing harmonies.

Here, they've reverted to the 1966 stereo mix. This means that you can hear the ADT drop out clumsily in the middle of the first 'Eleanor' as the lead vocal moves into the right channel alone, then re-centre during the word 'all' in "all the lonely people". It's far from seamless, and frankly infuriating on headphones.

. . .

Yellow Submarine (the song) also suffers on the new stereo Revolver disc: a better stereo remix was released a decade ago.

That said, it's far from being all bad. This is still Revolver we're talking about here after all. Predictably, on the new stereo disc, Tomorrow Never Knows is majestic.

So . . . get the mono versions of Please Please Me and With the Beatles and maybe Help and Revolver.  Get the stereo versions of everything else.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Snuflupagulus on September 07, 2009, 03:16:11 PM
I'm gonna guess it's going to come down to what you like more - authenticity to the original recording, or hearing the actual improvements better.  I tend to fall into the latter.
Not to post some aphorism, but get what you like.  For all this originalism talk, it's laughable to be lectured on how you should listen to the Beatles by people who weren't around for the first go-round.  I wasn't, and don't care what some self-appointed Beatles curator says is the respectful, intended mix of the Beatles.  I prefer the old Mono, but so what?  Macca, Martin, et al can say what they like.  If Stereo is better, I'm going for that.

Reading around the net, some people seem to have taken Lennon's Jesus comment and inverted it into some proclamation that you must treat the Beatles with holy reverence.  Too bad Lennon isn't here to take a big steamy shit on all of'em (and us).  It would at least temper the mobs enthusiasm for casting stones at the Stereo infidels.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Trent Dole on September 07, 2009, 03:27:50 PM
Only problem with the mono's is that they're available in a box only, at least officially. :pirate
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 07, 2009, 03:42:54 PM
well, damned if i'm paying for them all over again. Set utorrent to 'download', Mr Sulu.

I'd wait for a while on that, unless you're on a private tracker. 

seems like the kind of thing that would be watched for a few months, with cease and desists all around
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 07, 2009, 04:12:52 PM
:bow newsgroups :bow2

i like their early pre-65 stuff in mono better, the stereo mixes are heavier on the "vocals in one ear, instruments in the other" separation, and to me it's just a bit awkward-sounding
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on September 07, 2009, 05:02:35 PM
Yeah newsgroups are great for these high-profile releases but it kinda sucks that they're releasing them per track and not like, a huge RAR or something.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 07, 2009, 09:18:17 PM
Some nut in the GAF thread said he's going to buy both box sets :rofl
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Trent Dole on September 07, 2009, 11:34:32 PM
Some nut in the GAF thread said he's going to buy both box sets :rofl
He's not getting the mono one anytime soon if he didn't preorder.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 08, 2009, 03:09:02 AM

Pitchfork has a review up: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13425-stereo-box-in-mono/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13425-stereo-box-in-mono/)

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In any case, the sound of these remasters, mono or stereo, is exceptional.

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Listening to the new masters, the differences in sound quality generally manifest in three ways: songs have more "punch," with Paul McCartney's bass (an absolute wonder throughout) and Ringo's drums hitting with more force; the separation is better, so that instruments and (especially) layered vocals have more definition-- when the Beatles are harmonizing, you can more easily pick out the different vocalists, and the voices have more presence; and finally, the sound in general seems just a touch brighter, with various sound effects, cymbals taps, and so on, ringing with more clarity.

Individual albums review scores:
Please Please Me 9.5
With the Beatles 8.8 (As good at Twilight Princess)
A Hard Day's Night 9.7
Beatles For Sale 9.3
Help! 9.2

That's all they have up. But if they're going to give Beatles for Sale a 9.3, they should give the rest 10s (Yellow Sub excluded).
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 08, 2009, 05:01:38 PM
heh at the Twilight Princess jab

I like Help better than A Hard Day's Night, but eh, no biggie.  Good reviews I guess.  Wonder what they'll give the later stuff...AVClub had a rundown of shit the other day and they gave Abbey Road and Sgt. Pepper significantly less praise than the earlier albums, which baffled me.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 08, 2009, 05:09:53 PM
I'm only going to pick up Let it Be and Abbey Road (my copies were stolen a couple years ago). I'm content with my old CD copes of everything else.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: chronovore on September 09, 2009, 01:26:52 AM
well, damned if i'm paying for them all over again. Set utorrent to 'download', Mr Sulu.

I'd wait for a while on that, unless you're on a private tracker. 

seems like the kind of thing that would be watched for a few months, with cease and desists all around

Yeah, good call on that. And actively editing scrobbles on Last.fm is probably a good idea, because pre-release leaks stick out like a sore thumb, and there was some hullabaloo about Last.fm turning over information to the RIAA.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 09, 2009, 02:13:37 AM
OMG I was right

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That's all they have up. But if they're going to give Beatles for Sale a 9.3, they should give the rest 10s (Yellow Sub excluded).

Rubber Soul 10.0
Revolver 10.0
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 10.0
Magical Mystery Tour 10.0



Pitchfork loses its indie cred.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 09, 2009, 02:15:48 AM
If any of those albums except MMT came out for the first time in 2009, they'd be the best albums released that year. 10.0 is utterly reasonable. And the high spots of MMT are still incredible.

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 09, 2009, 02:27:31 AM
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If any of those albums except MMT came out for the first time in 2009, they'd be the best albums released that year.

I don't know; Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's, and Magical Mystery Tour are all firmly dated in the psychedelic era. They sound great, but they sound dated. If such albums were released today, they would be maligned. Of course, they'd be maligned as derivative, a criticism which can't be levied at these albums because they were original at the time they were released.

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10.0 is utterly reasonable. And the high spots of MMT are still incredible.

I think most of the Beatles albums are nearly flawless. I rarely skip songs (except for songs on the White Album and Beatles for Sale), but tens are a bit much.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 09, 2009, 02:32:24 AM
If any of those albums except MMT came out for the first time in 2009, they'd be the best albums released that year.
That's not saying much. I guess I can see how you could make the argument that the 10s are warranted, but I'm mostly just surprised that it's Pitchfork of all publications that is the one doling them out like this.

And did they get new writers or something? All these reviews are oddly absent of the purple prose that they're known for.

edit: Nevermind, didn't see that it's 1 guy doing 4 at a time.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 09, 2009, 02:39:27 AM
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If any of those albums except MMT came out for the first time in 2009, they'd be the best albums released that year.

I don't know; Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's, and Magical Mystery Tour are all firmly dated in the psychedelic era. They sound great, but they sound dated. If such albums were released today, they would be maligned. Of course, they'd be maligned as derivative, a criticism which can't be levied at these albums because they were original at the time they were released.

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10.0 is utterly reasonable. And the high spots of MMT are still incredible.

I think most of the Beatles albums are nearly flawless. I rarely skip songs (except for songs on the White Album and Beatles for Sale), but tens are a bit much.

You fall into my carefully-prepared logic trap!

You see, if they hadn't been released in the 60s, the entire course of popular music would have changed. We'd all be listening to orchestral doo-wop or some shit at this stage. And so the Beatles' albums would still sound innovative and fresh, warranting 10s across the board.

*twirls moustache*
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Snuflupagulus on September 09, 2009, 02:42:34 AM
So, anyone still looking to get the Mono Box set should go to Amazon.  They have it for $229 USD.  Pre-order, but appears to be shipping soon.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 09, 2009, 02:55:15 AM
You fall into my carefully-prepared logic trap!

You see, if they hadn't been released in the 60s, the entire course of popular music would have changed. We'd all be listening to orchestral doo-wop or some shit at this stage. And so the Beatles' albums would still sound innovative and fresh, warranting 10s across the board.

*twirls moustache*

Owned.

But the Beatles weren't the only ones who did psychedelic rock. And they didn't create, though they probably helped kill it off moving away from the genre on the White Album, Let it Be, and Abbey Road.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 09, 2009, 03:13:16 AM
True, true. But that's a bit like saying Jimi Hendrix wasn't the first to play with a fuzz box. Technically true but nobody much cares about the other dudes.

Besides, psychedelia periodically comes back into fashion anyway. See Prince, De La Soul, Outkast etc...

Still, I have to admit that there have been classicists (like Jellyfish) who have made stunningly good pop psychedelia records only to met with massive disinterest. Innovation and freshness count for a lot in pop music...
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 09, 2009, 03:24:52 AM
Lennon was at his creative peak during that era: tomorrow never know, A Day in the Life, Strawberry Fields, and I am the Walrus.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Tieno on September 09, 2009, 03:42:55 AM
Yesterday they did a test on TV, played the old version and the remastered. Couldn't tell any difference.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 09, 2009, 03:47:30 AM
In any blind listening test, most people just pick the version that is loudest as the best. Sad but true.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Tieno on September 09, 2009, 03:49:32 AM
It wasn't blind, they said "first the old version" *plays bit of a song* "and now the remastered version" *plays same bit of song*
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 09, 2009, 03:56:43 AM
Yesterday they did a test on TV, played the old version and the remastered. Couldn't tell any difference.
Shitty TV speakers != a decent pair of high-fidelity head/earphones. I found my old pair of Shure 210s and even on those the difference is clear as day.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 09, 2009, 03:57:27 AM
My point was just that most people can't tell shit about audio, and are highly suggestible. It's like the bottom line of an eye test for most people. They really can't say for sure what they're listening to, even moreso these days when most kids don't even have a stereo and just listen to music on crappy PC speakers or on iPod earbuds.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 10, 2009, 02:09:06 AM
Am I crazy or do the cymbals at the beginning of A Hard Day's Night (the song) sound kind of shitty on the 2009 remaster?  They sound more clear on the 1987 remaster, but everything else on the track is muddy.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: GilloD on September 10, 2009, 02:17:04 AM
I've been preferring the mono is most instances. I like that brusque, muscular sound. But I can see where the stereo really comes alive on the later Psych-y records. I'll probably go Mono just for iPod-adge.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 10, 2009, 02:24:02 AM
Pitchfork reviews the rest:

The Beatles 10.0
Yellow Submarine 6.2
Abbey Road 10.0
Let it Be 9.1
Past Masters 9.2
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 10, 2009, 02:25:40 AM
Am I crazy or do the cymbals at the beginning of A Hard Day's Night (the song) sound kind of shitty on the 2009 remaster? 

I'd assume the mono blends the piano and and guitar into one powerful sound.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 10, 2009, 02:32:58 AM
Not the opening chord -- the cymbals kick in immediately after the vocals start and they sound to me to be really scratchy.  I should've clarified that I'm referring to the stereo version. 
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Akala on September 10, 2009, 02:33:36 AM
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The phrase, "It's like their White Album"-- applied to records like Prince's Sign o' the Times, Hüsker Dü's Zen Arcade, the Clash's Sandinista!, and Pavement's Wowee Zowee

pitchfork sucks SO MUCH. reading that ten point oh review fucking angered me for some reason. may be it was the quoted...that struck me for some reason.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 10, 2009, 02:50:38 AM
also as for people not knowing shit about sound quality, self described "vinyl only" people come into our bar all the time and praise our vinyl collection all the time and wax on and on about the sound quality when in fact the player is turned off and and i'm playing mix tapes off my phone.

lol

The exact same phenomenon can be observed during wine tastings, as I'm sure you've noticed.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 10, 2009, 02:51:37 AM
...that is, if you err play mix tapes off your phone during wine tastings...

...ok, not the EXACT same phenomenon, an analogous phenomenon
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 10, 2009, 03:06:35 AM
now that pitchfork likes the beatles maybe everyone can be over them

Pitchfork is probably being ironic. You know how much you hipsters love irony.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 10, 2009, 03:43:59 AM
someone put these up on rapidshare or megaupload. Ono has enough money
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: GilloD on September 10, 2009, 04:00:49 AM
someone put these up on rapidshare or megaupload. Ono has enough money

Bolachas.org

Scroll down. Teehee.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 10, 2009, 04:04:44 AM
What should I get first? I'm guessing their early albums are poppy Jonas Brothers trash
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 10, 2009, 04:13:46 AM
 :lol

I got 'Love Me Do' out of my minds now- no thanks to Arvie.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 10, 2009, 05:07:33 AM
'Tomorrow Never Knows' is a revelation. I never realized how much this sounds like drum n' bass! I've never thought of this as 'danceable' (when I was 12 I just thought it was unlistenable) but it wouldn't sound too out of place at some clubs. Ahead of his time much?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 10, 2009, 03:07:49 PM
Please Please Me is pretty good, but then again many of the songs sound like stuff Sam Cook did much better. And the bass line on Baby It's You sounds almost exactly like Stand By Me.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 10, 2009, 03:09:50 PM
What should I get first? I'm guessing their early albums are poppy Jonas Brothers trash
:piss Anything before Rubber Soul :piss2

Actually, I guess Help! is okay. Couldn't care less about the rest though :punch
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 10, 2009, 03:58:48 PM
Please Please Me is pretty good, but then again many of the songs sound like stuff Sam Cook did much better. And the bass line on Baby It's You sounds almost exactly like Stand By Me.

To be fair, has anyone ever done anything better than Sam Cooke did?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 10, 2009, 04:31:28 PM
Someone was playing the Rolling Stones' psychedelic record, Satanic Majesties or whatever, in a coffeeshop last week.  I hadn't heard it before, I thought it was pretty good, better than I would've expected.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 10, 2009, 05:19:15 PM
Someone was playing the Rolling Stones' psychedelic record, Satanic Majesties or whatever, in a coffeeshop last week.  I hadn't heard it before, I thought it was pretty good, better than I would've expected.
It isn't bad, and "She's a Rainbow" is one of my favorite Stones' songs. But, I guess, it's overshadowed by other psychedelic albums and the Stones' previous releases and their next four classic albums. 
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: jiji on September 11, 2009, 12:14:31 AM
'Tomorrow Never Knows' is a revelation. I never realized how much this sounds like drum n' bass! I've never thought of this as 'danceable' (when I was 12 I just thought it was unlistenable) but it wouldn't sound too out of place at some clubs. Ahead of his time much?

The Chemical Brothers' Setting Sun is practically a remake of it.

[youtube=560,345]gYCOCmfJiko[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 11, 2009, 01:38:04 PM
Real talk  :-\

Rubber Soul is pretty good smh. And overall I like Please Please Me. So...Revolver next

I remember not liking Rubber Soul earlier this year though, dunno why. Maybe I wasn't paying attention or the sound quality sucked, dunno.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 11, 2009, 01:50:01 PM
PD just likes the Beatles because Pitchfork told him he should.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 11, 2009, 01:51:50 PM
It's certainly not a 10/10. That's reserved for perfect albums, you know like Dark Side of the Moon or Zep IV

8.4/10
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 11, 2009, 02:11:24 PM
Wish You Were Here > Dark Side of the Moon
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: DJ_Tet on September 11, 2009, 03:27:15 PM
Wish You Were Here > Dark Side of the Moon

This a million times

DSotM is overrated.  Good album but PF actually is better than that (on WYWH.)
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 11, 2009, 03:53:11 PM

Wish You Were Here > Dark Side of the Moon > The Wall > Animals > Meddle
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Brehvolution on September 11, 2009, 04:08:22 PM
I love Animals and rate it much higher.
Have you ever listened to it on weed?
(http://i43.tinypic.com/6qdtly.jpg)

You should.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 11, 2009, 04:21:03 PM
Zero Hero :heartbeat

Animals is probably my favorite.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 11, 2009, 04:28:31 PM
It's kinda crazy how Animals consists of three consecutive 10+ minute tracks and NEVER gets boring.  That might be the only time a rock group has accomplished that.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 11, 2009, 04:37:31 PM
PD I think you'll probably like Revolver a bit more.  Rubber Soul is one of my favorites though.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 11, 2009, 04:48:25 PM
Wish You Were Here > Dark Side of the Moon

Agreed 100%. But are 10/10

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2009, 04:50:33 PM
someone put these up on rapidshare or megaupload. Ono has enough money

Bolachas.org

Scroll down. Teehee.

Thanks. I'm not buying this either.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 11, 2009, 05:02:33 PM
Maybe I should give Animals another chance; it did receive a 10/10 from Pitchfork.  :P

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6307-animals/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6307-animals/)
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 11, 2009, 05:04:01 PM
I couldn't get into Animals, it didn't make an impression on me initially. I'll have to give it another shake
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 11, 2009, 05:09:15 PM
Quote from: Pink Floyd - Dogs
You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need
You gotta sleep on your toes, and when youre on the street
You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed
And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake
A certain look in the eye, and an easy smile
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to
So that when they turn their backs on you
Youll get the chance to put the knife in.

You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder
You know its going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older
And in the end youll pack, fly down south
Hide your head in the sand
Just another sad old man
All alone and dying of cancer.

And when you lose control, youll reap the harvest that youve sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And its too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down alone
Dragged down by the stone.

I gotta admit that Im a little bit confused
Sometimes it seems to me as if Im just being used
Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake of this creeping malaise
If I dont stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this maze?

Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
That everyones expendable and no-one had a real friend
And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
And you believe at heart, everyones a killer.

Who was born in a house full of pain
Who was trained not to spit in the fan
Who was told what to do by the man
Who was broken by trained personnel
Who was fitted with collar and chain
Who was given a seat in the stand
Who was breaking away from the pack
Who was only a stranger at home
Who was ground down in the end
Who was found dead on the phone
Who was dragged down by the stone.

:bow :bow
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 11, 2009, 05:15:22 PM
The only flaw in DSOTM is that we've all probably heard it way too much.  I can't think of another album with a better flow of songs.
I don't like the Wall that much.  There are plenty of great tracks on it, but it's kind of obnoxious.

Atom Heart Mother is the shit. 

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: DJ_Tet on September 11, 2009, 05:25:21 PM
It's kinda crazy how Animals consists of three consecutive 10+ minute tracks and NEVER gets boring.  That might be the only time a rock group has accomplished that.


(http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/large_images/537/60077537.jpg)
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 11, 2009, 05:31:21 PM
And Justice For All doesn't have any 10+ minute tracks!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 11, 2009, 05:33:21 PM
And it also gets boring. Or at the very least repetitive.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 11, 2009, 05:37:09 PM
Quote
The phrase, "It's like their White Album"-- applied to records like Prince's Sign o' the Times, Hüsker Dü's Zen Arcade, the Clash's Sandinista!, and Pavement's Wowee Zowee

pitchfork sucks SO MUCH. reading that ten point oh review fucking angered me for some reason. may be it was the quoted...that struck me for some reason.


I don't hate Pitchfork, but I'll be damned if Wowee Zowee is Pavement's white album (they don't have one.)  I like it, but it has the flow of a collection of B-sides, not the flow of a collection of singles...Malkmus himself said something along the lines of how he was using too many drugs at the time and tricked himself into thinking they had a hit breakout album on their hands.  It was more like a combination of Crooked Rain and Westing.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2009, 07:16:13 PM
gillod I LOVE you for posting that site
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: EvilBoris on September 11, 2009, 10:39:42 PM
sorry rubber soul is a bit creaky. mccartney prevents a lull in the middle between 'the word' , 'think for yourself' and 'what goes on'. the first and last thirds are great though. 'wait' is a small favourite.

 btw I'm watching parts of the beloved Magical Mystery Tour, not terribly eventful but there is a genuinely surreal scene here with Lennon at his grinning best shovelling mud for a crying fat lady at a restaurant. and ringo can really lol 'act naturally'. considering seeing more... who's managed through it all?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 11, 2009, 10:46:01 PM
btw I'm watching parts of the beloved Magical Mystery Tour, not terribly eventful but there is a genuinely surreal scene here with Lennon at his grinning best shovelling mud for a crying fat lady at a restaurant. and ringo can really lol 'act naturally'. considering seeing more... who's managed through it all?

Beloved by whom? It's easily their worst movie. And, yes, I watched it all.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: EvilBoris on September 11, 2009, 10:48:59 PM
 ...
 yeah that was a joke pal
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 11, 2009, 10:56:56 PM
I'm currently working on a paper, "Sarcasm on the Internet: Why it Often Doesn't Work." I should send you an early copy.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 11, 2009, 10:59:42 PM
I'm liking White Album a lot more than the other albums so far
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Smooth Groove on September 11, 2009, 10:59:59 PM
Malek, if you own a Zune pass, check out the Marketplace for a playlist of Beatles covers.  Several of them are actually pretty good.

The variety of musicians that did covers of Beatles' songs speaks is impressive and speaks volumes about their influence.  
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: DJ_Tet on September 11, 2009, 11:00:47 PM
And Justice For All doesn't have any 10+ minute tracks!

That's inconceivable honestly.  Anyway, I wasn't saying that album was on the same level as Animals, no reason for everyone to get their panties twisted. 
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 11, 2009, 11:43:51 PM
I'm liking White Album a lot more than the other albums so far

It's probably my second favorite Beatles album. It has some bad material, though.

Side three is my favorite:
Side three
1.    "Birthday"
2.    "Yer Blues"   
3.    "Mother Nature's Son"   
4.    "Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey"
5.    "Sexy Sadie" 
6.    "Helter Skelter"   
7.    "Long, Long, Long"

Side one has better songs, but it also has both "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" and "Wild Honey Pie." FTL
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 11, 2009, 11:45:01 PM
Malek, if you own a Zune pass, check out the Marketplace for a playlist of Beatles covers.  Several of them are actually pretty good.

The variety of musicians that did covers of Beatles' songs speaks is impressive and speaks volumes about their influence.  

I don't have zune pass. I am familiar with a lot of Beatles' covers. Inevitably, they're just not very good--with several major exceptions.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 11, 2009, 11:46:20 PM
Do it. Revolver and Abbey Road are the best Beatles albums, IMO.

And Malek, isn't The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill on that side as well? That's the worst Beatles track of all, I think.


Yes it is, but I kind of like it in a "Yellow Submarine" kind of way.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 12, 2009, 12:16:22 AM
I'm liking White Album a lot more than the other albums so far

It's probably my second favorite Beatles album. It has some bad material, though.

Side three is my favorite:
Side three
1.    "Birthday"
2.    "Yer Blues"   
3.    "Mother Nature's Son"   
4.    "Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey"
5.    "Sexy Sadie" 
6.    "Helter Skelter"   
7.    "Long, Long, Long"

Side one has better songs, but it also has both "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" and "Wild Honey Pie." FTL


Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da is awesome.  Hater.

and no joke, I was listening to it right as I read that post.  but Wild Honey Pie is bad.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 12, 2009, 12:58:05 AM
What are your favorite Beatles albums, Malek?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 12, 2009, 01:19:33 AM
They are all equally overrated.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 12, 2009, 01:20:20 AM
What are your favorite Beatles albums, Malek?

Abbey Road > the White Album > Rubber Soul > Revolver > Sgt. Pepper's > Magical Mystery Tour > Let it Be >  Help > Hard Day's Night > Please Please Me > With the Beatles > Beatles for Sale > Yellow Submarine (barely counts)

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 12, 2009, 01:26:11 AM
I should add, Himuro, that Past Masters 2 is flawless (well, except for "You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)"). It's amazing that the Beatles didn't release their best singles on their regular albums.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 12, 2009, 01:27:01 AM
They are all equally overrated.

Your screenplays are overrated.

I think my screenplays would have to be rated to qualify as overrated.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 12, 2009, 01:33:17 AM
So I've never actually listened to a full Beatles album.  Downloading Abbey Road now. 
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 12, 2009, 01:37:35 AM
Prepare to be underwhelmed.

Once you're done, you can listen to a real band - like Muse.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 12, 2009, 01:38:23 AM
Was gonna dl the new Muse but the dl link was down
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 12, 2009, 01:39:58 AM
Muse? Even Joel doesn't like their newest album.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 12, 2009, 01:43:06 AM
As if he is the arbiter of good taste.

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I'm not a fan of their new album either. :shh
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Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 12, 2009, 01:43:18 AM
Prepare to be underwhelmed.

Once you're done, you can listen to a real band - like Muse.

bands are for distinguished effete fellows anyways. 
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 12, 2009, 01:43:23 AM
asdf
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 12, 2009, 01:56:03 AM
Nevermind Himuro, that link is mislabeled bullshit, sorry
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 12, 2009, 03:16:02 AM
The variety of musicians that did covers of Beatles' songs speaks is impressive and speaks volumes about their influence.  

[youtube=560,345]8gLWTtlMwo4[/youtube]
>>>Beatles version :bow
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 12, 2009, 03:27:30 AM
no!

[youtube=560,345]t0R5fdHRzgk[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 12, 2009, 03:37:42 AM
I like the synth flute-ish thing that comes in around 0:46 of the Fiona Apple version.  was that made for the movie Pleasantville?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 12, 2009, 03:52:39 AM
no!

[youtube=560,345]t0R5fdHRzgk[/youtube]
:yuck
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 12, 2009, 05:05:41 AM
STOP TROLLING
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 12, 2009, 05:06:40 AM
:bow The White Album :bow2
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 12, 2009, 05:11:39 AM
:bow Yer Blues! :bow2

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Dickie Dee on September 12, 2009, 12:39:52 PM
So I've never actually listened to a full Beatles album.  Downloading Abbey Road now. 

The side two medley is glorious.

The album gave a pretty good indication of what the Beatles would've sounded like if they kept on to the early 70s, oh well.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 12, 2009, 02:34:15 PM
Yer Blues  :o 8)
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 12, 2009, 03:47:43 PM
[youtube=560,345]LAjdRHzH4M8[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 12, 2009, 06:20:26 PM
I broke down and bought Abbey Road and The White Album at Wal-Mart today. I'll probably pick up Revolver and Sgt. Pepper next paycheck.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 12, 2009, 06:44:00 PM
I should add, Himuro, that Past Masters 2 is flawless (well, except for "You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)"). It's amazing that the Beatles didn't release their best singles on their regular albums.

Belle and Sebastian have done the same thing. It's a great way to get everyone, not just die hard fans to buy singles.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 13, 2009, 06:55:30 PM
I am listening to the entire Beatles discography after mostly neglecting them over the years and trolling Malek.

I'm damn impressed.

Abbey Road is FANTASTIC.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 13, 2009, 06:58:42 PM
Revolver is kinda eh. There are some very good songs, then songs that are just...there. Doctor Robert? Good Day Sunshine? I Want To Tell You? Gotta Get You Into My Life? Love You To? Meh

Rubber Soul>>Revolver
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: pilonv1 on September 13, 2009, 11:25:29 PM
been listening to this today, up to Help! now and it's fucking amazing
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 14, 2009, 12:56:26 AM
the bass in Hey Bulldog is incredible

I just want it alone as my ringtone
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 14, 2009, 12:57:38 AM
Listened to the first to songs on Abby Road.  I then stopped. 
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: archie4208 on September 14, 2009, 12:59:34 AM
Why? ???  Maxwell's Silver Hammer isn't THAT bad.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 14, 2009, 01:01:38 AM
Listened to the first to songs on Abby Road.  I then stopped. 

You don't like Come Together?  ???
 :-\
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 14, 2009, 01:27:19 AM
Listened to the first to songs on Abby Road.  I then stopped. 

Worst troll ever. And it figures you'd misspell both two and Abbey. Go listen to the FMA soundtrack.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 14, 2009, 02:01:05 AM
meh, Get You Into My Life is too bombastic, what is this a swing song? Hookless, just obnoxious to me

It's just a boring, like half the album
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 14, 2009, 03:17:02 AM
All the albums are overrated.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 14, 2009, 03:20:25 AM
Listened to the first to songs on Abby Road.  I then stopped. 

You don't like Come Together?  ???
 :-\


not really. 
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 14, 2009, 03:24:52 AM
All the albums are overrated.

So far I'm agreeing with you. I'm on Sgt. Pepper now, great so far but even here the tracks range from good to alright to great
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 14, 2009, 03:56:27 AM
[youtube=560,345]DEbtyfst-BI[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 14, 2009, 09:07:47 AM
I'm not big on Sgt. Peppers or Revolver either. 2 minute songs of hippy shit.

Abbey Road :bow
White album :bow
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: EvilBoris on September 14, 2009, 10:07:35 AM
 
Quote
I'm not big on Sgt. Peppers or Revolver either. 2 minute songs of hippy shit.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFWLnBxZMDw[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: pilonv1 on September 14, 2009, 10:20:15 AM
elanor rigby is one of the best songs ever
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 14, 2009, 01:27:57 PM
Sgt. Pepper is not really "hippy".

I like it a lot - it's probably tied with The White Album as my second favorite Beatles album after Abbey Road.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 14, 2009, 01:41:04 PM
Abbey Road is the one Beatles album I'm listening to that I think is worthy of all the praise. This is one of the best rock albums I've heard. The others have some good songs, but this is great from beginning to end.

I haven't listened to Let It Be yet.

I prefer late Beatles to early Beatles listening to these albums. Abbey Road, White Album, Rubber Soul...they have meaty, interesting lyrics; amazing instrument playing and are more interesting compositions all around. But the earlier albums are full of two minute long boring songs.

This is why I used to not really like Beatles. I didn't really have much exposure to late Beatles; I was constantly served early Beatles, which I find to be boring as shit.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 14, 2009, 03:14:20 PM
Ok, more real talk: Sgt. Pepper is fantastic. I can't think of an album with a better opening six tracks. On Revolver I really felt like McCarthy's poppy songs were spotty and often average. Here he has some of the best, especially She's Leaving Home. Wow. Can't say I like Lovely Rita or Good Morning; they aren't bad, just meh.

I read up on the creation of the album and couldn't help but consider the innovations featured here that impact music - but especially hip hop for me. Sampling, and the creation of "aliases" - think Wu Tang. Interesting  :o
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 14, 2009, 04:02:07 PM
Nothing to say about "A Day in the Life"?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 14, 2009, 04:02:45 PM
I agree. Although I think Sgt. Pepper's is weaker than White Album and Abbey Road, it's definitely when the Beatles music actually starts to move away from disposable pop to actually good music.

Then again, Rubber Soul's not bad.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 14, 2009, 04:07:04 PM
Nothing to say about "A Day in the Life"?

It's alright

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Absolutely amazing song. I've heard it so many times, whereas I heard She's Leaving Home for the first time last night.
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Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 14, 2009, 04:24:29 PM
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Absolutely amazing song. I've heard it so many times, whereas I heard She's Leaving Home for the first time last night.
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Did you listen to the mono version of "She's Leaving Home"?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 14, 2009, 04:34:38 PM
Yea, everything I've downloaded has been mono - although the Rubber Soul file also included the stereo versions.

I need to get some better headphones btw
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 14, 2009, 04:37:49 PM
Stereo forever! :rock
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 14, 2009, 04:41:49 PM
Yea, everything I've downloaded has been mono - although the Rubber Soul file also included the stereo versions.

I need to get some better headphones btw
That version has the original '65 stereo mix. The remastered stereo discs use the superior 1987 George Martin remix.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 14, 2009, 04:52:34 PM
Hm, I'll probably wait for better headphones before doing stereo.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 14, 2009, 05:00:40 PM
I've been listening to the stereo versions. Why would you listen to mono in 2009 deliberately? I mean, I can understand if they were the originals.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 14, 2009, 05:01:36 PM
well most people in the GAF thread were saying mono>stereo  ???
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 14, 2009, 05:05:44 PM
Mono is something that audiophiles and purists jack off about, since The Beatles originally mixed their album in mono.

I think the new stereo mixes are pretty ace, and don't know why you'd want to listen to mono, unless you are a collector. Those who dabble in audio engineering might care, but do any of you ever know what stereo panning means?

Don't think so.

Buy stereo! :rock
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 14, 2009, 05:10:05 PM
From a purist's viewpoint, mono > stereo -- they were the "priority" mixes.  I personally enjoy the stereo versions more for almost every single song apart from the few times the stereo mix is very badly done (specifically thinking of "Eleanor Rigby").  People say the mono versions are "punchier", I think they sound flat and lifeless by comparison.  It's all personal preference.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 14, 2009, 07:11:31 PM
I broke down and bought Sgt. Pepper and Revolver today.

Sgt. Pepper sounds wonderful.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Snuflupagulus on September 14, 2009, 10:19:24 PM
The Mono are good.  Don't let the lunacy of pedantic Beatles fans get in the way of enjoying them.  That said, the cleaned up Stereo are also very good.  If I was going to recommend either to a newbie (and the Mono were available stand-alone), I'd still advise to get the Stereo.

I like the Mono versions quite a bit, but if you aren't used to it (or can't abide the flat wall'o'sound) get the Stereo for sure.  They're really quite good.  Even the odd stereo separation of instruments and vocals on the first two albums isn't as jarring as I thought it was going to be; just different.  They were smart to apply limiting to the Stereo versions.  The slight increase in loudness doesn't interfere with the quality of the recordings at all.  Sounds good, mayne.

None of this dithering holds true for the Beach Boy's Pet Sounds, though.  Stereo all the way.  The Mono version sounds like garbage in comparison, original or not.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 16, 2009, 04:00:49 PM
Tried out the Sgt Pepper stereo, and I like it, perhaps more so than mono overall. But there are some songs where the separation of instruments is annoying at times, especially at the beginning of songs. But ultimately it's cool being able to clearly hear when various instruments are introduced into a song.

Now I'm on the White Album. First disk is utterly amazing, and after listening to it I was convinced this would end up being the best double album I've heard. Second disk is good, but definitely not as good. That being said this is definitely the best and most consistent double album I've heard. Especially the first disk holy shit

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 12:17:18 AM
Anyone have a link for Abbey Road? The file isn't working in the previous link
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 17, 2009, 12:19:54 AM
I bought Abbey Road, The White Album, Sgt. Pepper, Revolver, Rubber Soul and Blueprint 3 last week!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: EvilBoris on September 17, 2009, 12:26:32 AM
 I would rank 'Magical Mystery Tour' and 'A Hard Day's Night' very highly in their career. don't skip them really.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 12:31:12 AM
Anyone have a link for Abbey Road? The file isn't working in the previous link

Dl the entire remasters. I dled them from demonoid.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 12:32:41 AM
Tried out the Sgt Pepper stereo, and I like it, perhaps more so than mono overall. But there are some songs where the separation of instruments is annoying at times, especially at the beginning of songs. But ultimately it's cool being able to clearly hear when various instruments are introduced into a song.

Now I'm on the White Album. First disk is utterly amazing, and after listening to it I was convinced this would end up being the best double album I've heard. Second disk is good, but definitely not as good. That being said this is definitely the best and most consistent double album I've heard. Especially the first disk holy shit



completely fucking agreed on white album.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 17, 2009, 12:33:47 AM
It's almost as if you guys didn't know anything about the Beatles before listening recently  :lol
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 12:40:04 AM
We likely didn't grow up in houses that didn't play the Beatles. In terms of music from that era, I grew up with the Temptations, Michael Jackson (Jackson 5), Billie Holiday and Diana Ross. I didn't grow up listening rock.

I'm not sure about PD but for me, it's not that I didn't know anything about them. I heard the occasional song. Everyone has heard Let it Be, Come Together, Yesterday, Hey Jude;etc. but I never listened to them seriously. My friend gave me a best of Beatles lp once and it was full of 2 minute long songs which didn't impress me very much, so I didn't bother listening to them.

However, the remasters are the perfect opportunity for someone who has never seriously listened to the Beatles to give them a fair try.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 12:48:39 AM
It is possible to never really hear the Beatles. Until I started to get into their catalogue six years, I never really heard most of their material (I was into pop and rap as a kid, then alternative rock, then classical). The Beatles music I did hear was usually background noise at a supermarket or something.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 12:51:46 AM
I don't think I have never heard a whole Beatles song. Except Imagine but that's just John Lennon. And that awful Christmas song but that's just Paul McCartney.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 17, 2009, 12:53:26 AM
I grew up with it - the first album I ever listened to was a Greatest Hits cassette my mum had lying around. I feel so very very old.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 12:54:09 AM
You've never heard Yesterday, Fresh Prince?

I guess it's an American thing.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 12:54:29 AM
I did sort of get into the Beatles when the Anthology aired on ABC. But all of my peers said they were lame, so I went back to listening to the Pumpkins and Nirvana. (My peers rejected me anyway  :'().
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 12:54:47 AM
My parents would play lots of Motown, jazz, and gospel when I was young. My dad played some hip hop stuff (mainly Big Daddy Kane/Juice Crew stuff) as well as some rock, but not the Beatles; he's a big fan of The Police and Springsteen, for instance. I heard Beatles songs on the radio, and growing up I heard a good deal of their popular staples of classic rock stations; plus we had a copy of Yellow Submarine on vhs which I liked. But overall I can't say I was very knowledgeable of their overall work. Everyone has heard Little Help From My Friends, Come Together, Eleanor Rigby, Getting Better, Blackbird, etc. I just wasn't familiar with their albums overall.

When I got into classic rock I focused on Zeppelin, Sabbath, and Hendrix.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 12:56:15 AM
I don't think I have never heard a whole Beatles song. Except Imagine but that's just John Lennon. And that awful Christmas song but that's just Paul McCartney.

fuck you for bringing that awful synthesizer riff back into my mind  :lol :'(
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 12:58:06 AM
[youtube=560,345]6o8-eLZhrOA[/youtube]

I can understand why someone like Fresh Prince would never want to hear a Beatles song after hearing this.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 12:58:09 AM
When I got into classic rock I focused solely on Hendrix and a few other groups.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 17, 2009, 12:59:14 AM
Sabbath. :yuck

My father gave me his vinyls when I was a kid, so I had some Beatles stuff. I dig the band, but I do not think they were touched by the hand of God or anything.

... Evilboris, not a big fan of Magical Mystery Tour. I know it's kind of a companion piece to Sgt. Pepper, but it never clicked with me. Same with A Hard Day's Night.

Besides, I just spent like, what, $70 on a group and half their members are dead? The other half are stinkin' rich. EMI should be giving away this crap!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 01:02:50 AM
EMI should be giving away this crap!

Are you sure you're Jewish?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 17, 2009, 01:03:28 AM
Zeppelin and Hendrix are pretty great.

Don't forget Clapton!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 17, 2009, 01:04:14 AM
Are you sure you're Jewish?

What Jew wouldn't want something for free? ???
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 01:05:18 AM
What Jew would suggest that, instead of making hundreds of millions of dollars, you give away your product for free?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 17, 2009, 01:07:04 AM
One that doesn't make any profit of it - duh!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 17, 2009, 01:10:03 AM
Speaking of profit, since Jay-Z and the Beatles are on top, how come EMI doesn't sell The Grey Album?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 01:10:49 AM
God how did I forget - I was a big Pink Floyd as well. Still am actually, they were one of the first rock bands I really liked.

And I liked Cream but never really explored their albums, whereas I listened to all of Hendrix's stuff on vinyl in the library :rock
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 01:11:46 AM
Since you guys don't want to listen to their older material


[youtube=560,345]FsgCu0Ny45M[/youtube]
I can relate to it--well not the part where the woman calls him back.

[youtube=560,345]9TDlEBwKJ28[/youtube]
for the lack of replies I received on okcupid.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 17, 2009, 01:14:15 AM
 :yuck

There's a line, Malek.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 01:16:31 AM
Ugh. That's the stuff that turned me off The Beatles to begin with: 2 minute long songs of  :-X

No Reply is alright.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 01:20:09 AM
:P

[youtube=560,345]TWQfi7se1YE[/youtube]

 :heartbeat

[youtube=560,345]HPWnppnRL1E[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 17, 2009, 01:22:45 AM
I like both of those songs, No Reply especially  ???

Help and A Hard Day's Night, fuckin' A
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 01:26:00 AM
They're alright. Just simplistic. They seem like good ideas but it's hard to care when you have songs that are 2 minutes long, personally.

I like later-era Beatles because not only are their songs longer in length, but they have better musical composition, lyric depth, and are more interesting.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 17, 2009, 01:28:55 AM
I saw that  ;)

I like the older material for what they are - great pop music.  ESPECIALLY A Hard Day's Night and Help!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 01:30:21 AM
When it comes to 60's pop music I prefer stuff like Nancy Sinatra.

[youtube=560,345]T5Xl0Qry-hA[/youtube]

I'd rather listen to this than early-Beatles.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 17, 2009, 01:31:35 AM
Beatles pre-Rubber Soul are dead to me.

I agree with Himuro, early Beatles is pop trash.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 01:36:12 AM
Pop trash Sam Cooke did way better!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 01:39:00 AM
[youtube=560,345]6o8-eLZhrOA[/youtube]

I can understand why someone like Fresh Prince would never want to hear a Beatles song after hearing this.
I only found out about this song through evilbore- though I have heard it before in parts but never thought PM sung it.

Oh god it's as bad as I remember it.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 01:40:48 AM
Beatles pre-Rubber Soul are dead to me.

I agree with Himuro, early Beatles is pop trash.


Help isn't that much worse than Rubber Soul. The songs are still all about romantic love and the bass is nearly inaudible, but the songs are fantastic.* 

]http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EC3F6FD6A21EC23E&search_query=The+Beatles+Remastered+(2009)+Help!+[Stereo] (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EC3F6FD6A21EC23E&search_query=The+Beatles+Remastered+(2009)+Help!+[Stereo)

*except for "Act Naturally" and "Dizzy Miss Lizzy."
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 01:42:39 AM
:bow Paul :bow2

The best Beatle

Honestly, reading John Lennon's wikipedia entry makes me think he was an awful douchenizzle of a person. What kind of asshole doesn't leave his own son something in his will when he's a rich mofo?   ???
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 01:44:04 AM
 :-X Paul sure has some meh pop songs on Beatles albums. That being said, I really like Honey Pie  :-*
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 01:45:55 AM
Lennon was a cock, but he was a better song writer than McCartney. Hell, Harrison's best songs are about as good Paul's best.

Paul was a better musician, had better pop sense, and had more vocal range. Lennon and McCartney complemented each other.  
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 01:46:56 AM
:piss John :piss2
Paul :piss2
George :piss2 for being a hippy
:bow Ringo :bow2 - he narrated Thomas the Tank!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 17, 2009, 01:47:47 AM
Pop trash, meh.  A Hard Day's Night is sshhhweet.  Don't really care for the others early albums, other than Help.

And ewww Paul.  The only correct answer is George Harrison :bow2
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 01:50:00 AM
I'm gonna let you finish but Ringo was the best Beatle of all time
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 17, 2009, 01:51:33 AM
 :lol

George has always been my personal favorite.  John and Paul might've been a better team, but George had songs that just felt more personal.  Here Comes the Sun, I Me Mine, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Something, Long Long Long...awesome songs.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 01:51:59 AM
John was a fucking cunt.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 17, 2009, 01:54:59 AM
:lol

George has always been my personal favorite.  John and Paul might've been a better team, but George had songs that just felt more personal.  Here Comes the Sun, I Me Mine, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Something, Long Long Long...awesome songs.

Indeed.  George is probably my favorite.  Paul has the most talent, I feel.  Agree with what others say about John.  Ringo was goofy which helped some of the songs he sang go from crap to funny.

Lennon was a cock, but he was a better song writer than McCartney. Hell, Harrison's best songs are about as good Paul's best.

Paul was a better musician, had better pop sense, and had more vocal range. Lennon and McCartney complemented each other. 

Didn't see this post.  That sums it up nicely.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 01:55:22 AM
Quote
NEW YORK (Reuters Life!) - Paul McCartney topped a poll of Americans' favorite Beatles. . . . Nearly 30 percent of Americans questioned in the poll selected McCartney, compared to 16 percent who chose John Lennon, 10 percent for George Harrison and 9 percent for Ringo Starr.

America wrong again?

Quote
Zogby International, one of the more preminent political pollsters, has conducted an extensive poll on the Beatles and Beatlemania among the American public.

Fewer liberals (9%) and Democrats (14%) didn't like the Beatles than Republicans and conservatives (30% each) who didn't.

Drinky and Cohen are closet Republicans confirmed.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 17, 2009, 01:57:41 AM
:bow Pre-Rubber Soul Beatles :bow2

[youtube=560,345]aNMhPQoEbJE[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]1x5rPuavtwI[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]D2ITc2kFRvE[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]ey-3g4MGfCI[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]aChUwN5LBao[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 17, 2009, 02:00:32 AM
pre-rubber soul stuff is still good.  I mean, it's good for pop rock.

:bow Paul :bow2

The best Beatle

Honestly, reading John Lennon's wikipedia entry makes me think he was an awful douchenizzle of a person. What kind of asshole doesn't leave his own son something in his will when he's a rich mofo?   ???

He kinda was, but he was also really funny.  Watch the Dick Cavett interviews.  He's hilarious in a hyper-obnoxious way.  It also shows how much of a dick he was.

Instant Karma is still the best post-Beatles song by a Beatle.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 17, 2009, 02:03:15 AM
Paul consistently contributed the worst song to Beatle albums (save for Beatles for Sale, the worst song being a cover of John's choosing, and Let It Be, which is pretty consistent in spite of it being one of their lesser albums and doesn't have a stand-out bad track... okay, and Help!, the worst song on which is also a cover), therefore he is the worst Beatle.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 02:07:02 AM
Instant Karma is still the best post-Beatles song by a Beatle.

Clearly, you never listened to "Wonderful Christmas Time" before. And I just posted a youtube of the song!

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 02:08:34 AM
I'm gonna let you finish but She's Leaving Home is the best Beatles song of all time :bow
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 17, 2009, 02:10:19 AM
Instant Karma is still the best post-Beatles song by a Beatle.

Clearly, you never listened to "Wonderful Christmas Time" before. And I just posted a youtube of the song!



Nope.  Pretty sure Paul was sleeping until Say Say Say.  Michael Jackson saved him from retirement, made one fun song and one kinda dull one, and then he went back to sleep.

[youtube=560,345]aLEhh_XpJ-0[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 02:10:48 AM
PD you don't have enough swagger on these forums to carry that shit off.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 02:11:27 AM
Paul consistently contributed the worst song to Beatle albums (save for Beatles for Sale, the worst song being a cover of John's choosing, and Let It Be, which is pretty consistent in spite of it being one of their lesser albums and doesn't have a stand-out bad track), therefore he is the worst Beatle.

Odd logic. George only had to was only allowed to contribute one or two songs an album, and Ringo wrote like one song by himself. Thus, either Paul or John will end up with the most stinkers.

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 17, 2009, 02:12:26 AM
You can learn a lot by asking someone 'Who's your favorite Beatle?'.

They're practically archetypes. Or at least their public images are.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 02:14:49 AM
If anyone says Ringo, he or she is an idiot. He can't sing, can't write music, and can't play the drums well.

 But he's goofy and his name is Ringo!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 02:16:28 AM
So Ringo was Hufflepuff?
smh
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 02:16:34 AM
But he had a pretty cool voice imo  :lol

But yea he was like the Meg White of the Beatles
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 02:18:57 AM
But he had a pretty cool voice imo  :lol

He does have an interesting voice, suitable for goofy songs.

But yea he was like the Meg White of the Beatles

 :lol

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 02:20:20 AM
I hate Paul because of his saccharine rubbish. John would've been cool if he wasn't such an arsehole to his own family- I'd actually give the guy kudos for being this new age Jesus publicly and this rampant Ayn Randian materialist in private. Ringo is boring- but he narrated Thomas the Tank! George is a hippie tho.

I guess I'll go with John he has some admirable traits.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 02:21:56 AM
I hope you're laughing because you agree Malek  :o

I'm listening to Abbey Road right now, on Maxwell's Silver Hammer. This would have been tolerable with Ringo singing!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 17, 2009, 02:22:05 AM
They're alright. Just simplistic. They seem like good ideas but it's hard to care when you have songs that are 2 minutes long, personally.

I like later-era Beatles because not only are their songs longer in length, but they have better musical composition, lyric depth, and are more interesting.

I kinda feel like the exact opposite in some ways.  It's kinda why I would say Let It Be is one of the weaker albums, even if it has I Me Mine, one of my favorite songs.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 17, 2009, 02:23:47 AM
Paul consistently contributed the worst song to Beatle albums (save for Beatles for Sale, the worst song being a cover of John's choosing, and Let It Be, which is pretty consistent in spite of it being one of their lesser albums and doesn't have a stand-out bad track), therefore he is the worst Beatle.

Odd logic. George only had to was only allowed to contribute one or two songs an album, and Ringo wrote like one song by himself. Thus, either Paul or John will end up with the most stinkers.


Of course, but the man wrote "Honey Pie"!  He has to be discredited somehow.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 02:26:35 AM
I hope you're laughing because you agree Malek  :o

Partly. But she could never drum like he did in "Good Morning Good Morning" or "Strawberry Fields."

I'm listening to Abbey Road right now, on Maxwell's Silver Hammer. This sound would have been tolerable with Ringo singing!


Ringo singing lead twice on one album?! (the White Album doesn't count)
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 02:29:22 AM
I'm listening to Honey Pie.. I will try to make my way through this.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 02:31:14 AM
Are there any official lists, album by album, of who wrote what? Wikipedia isn't very clear
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 02:31:56 AM
I understand the concept but why? The adlibbing was awful.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 17, 2009, 02:32:45 AM
The real question is who has the best mustache.  It's a hard call between John and George.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 02:32:50 AM
PD, this looks fine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Beatles_songs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Beatles_songs)
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 02:33:53 AM
[youtube=560,345]LedUjMuTR7Q[/youtube]
OMG I never realised this was by the Beatles  :lol

I thought it was some novelty song :rofl yeah I had to turn that shit off.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 02:36:46 AM
Fresh Prince is only going to listen to McCartney's worst songs. Are you angry that the Beatles co-opted your people's music?

[youtube=560,345]_Yy8o3wfb4Y[/youtube]

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 17, 2009, 02:36:54 AM
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da is much more enjoyable when you pick up on the transgendering.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 02:38:09 AM
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da is much more enjoyable when you pick up on the transgendering.
I'm pretty sure Paul just messed up the line. I could be wrong.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 17, 2009, 02:38:47 AM
It was completely unintentional, but it transforms the entire song!
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 17, 2009, 02:40:09 AM
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da is hilarious because it's so cheesy.  I want it in Beatles Rock Band just to sing.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 02:41:36 AM
English rule :punch  :yuck
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 02:41:50 AM
"Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" is tolerable the first two or three times you listen to it. Then you want to murder someone. During this period, I wish George Martin still had some power over the Beatles.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 02:42:22 AM
I'd be right to assume that while Lennon wrong Because (listening to it right now), McCarthy composed his own bassline correct. Would that apply to say, Lennon writing She's So Heavy but Harrison writing the guitar solos?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 17, 2009, 02:47:45 AM
I listened to Strawberry Fields the lyrics are like something Talib Kweli would write- no worse.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 02:51:58 AM
I listened to Strawberry Fields the lyrics are like something Talib Kweli would write- no worse.

You've confused me

Malek, stop Lennon, he's ruining Abbey Road!

Sun King  :-\
Mean Mr Mustard  :-\
Polythene Pam  :-\

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 03:01:01 AM
PD, Paul wrote most of the basslines himself. I know Harrison wrote a number of the solos, but I think Lennon and McCartney wrote their own as well. They both performed a number of solos, too.

PD, you're nuts.

[youtube=560,345]tlszMOpjx0E[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 03:13:58 AM
The last four songs (not including Her Majesty) are pretty awesome  :o
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 03:16:05 AM
not a bad way to go out.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 03:17:03 AM
So Let It Be isn't highly regarded in Beatles fans circles?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 17, 2009, 03:21:52 AM
It's only not highly regarded in that it's a Beatles album that isn't a :bow Beatles album :bow2

It's not a fully realized concept and several of the songs were effectively butchered by Phil Spector.  It's certainly not bad, though.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 03:22:19 AM
It's still a good album, but Let it Be Naked is better.

edit: Phil Spector did make "The Long Winding Road" better.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 17, 2009, 03:31:46 AM
It's still a good album, but Let it Be Naked is better.

edit: Phil Spector did make "The Long Winding Road" better.

McCartney's voice sounds so much better on the Naked version, even compared to the remastered original.  I still prefer it for that reason alone.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: pilonv1 on September 17, 2009, 03:34:14 AM
this thread
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2009, 03:35:48 AM
Abbey Road :bow

Some filler but overall it's great. So...it's early but if I had to rate things

White Album>Abbey Road>Sgt Pepper>Rubber Soul>Revolver>Please Please Me
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: pilonv1 on September 17, 2009, 07:43:27 AM
Not a big fan of Abbey Road but here comes the Sun is awesome.

Sgt Pepper & Revolver & Rubber Soul total.

Sgt Pepper gets a flawless victory due to A Day In The Life
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 08:06:51 AM
Abbey Road > White ALbum  > Sgt Pepper > Rubber Soul > Let it Be >>>>>>>>>>> Revolver >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pre-Rubber Soul Beatles
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 08:16:43 AM
At this point in time, I'm going to have to say my favorite Beatles song at this point is either She's Leaving Home, Oh! Darling, or Come Together.

The musical compositions in these songs are amazing. The lyrics are great. The singing excellent.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 17, 2009, 08:18:17 AM
Instant Karma is still the best post-Beatles song by a Beatle.

Clearly, you never listened to "Wonderful Christmas Time" before. And I just posted a youtube of the song!



Nope.  Pretty sure Paul was sleeping until Say Say Say.  Michael Jackson saved him from retirement, made one fun song and one kinda dull one, and then he went back to sleep.

[youtube=560,345]aLEhh_XpJ-0[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]Y96mdVTMByk[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: pilonv1 on September 17, 2009, 08:53:31 AM
Motherfuckers hating on Wings piss me off.

:bow BAND ON THE RUN :bow2
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 17, 2009, 09:18:54 AM
Abbey Road = White > Sgt. Peppers > Rubber Soul > Revolver > Magical Mystery Tour > Let it Be > A Hard Day's Night > Help! > the rest
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 17, 2009, 10:06:26 AM
Abbey Road = White > Sgt. Peppers > Rubber Soul > Revolver > Magical Mystery Tour > Let it Be > A Hard Day's Night > Help! > the rest

Agree with this mostly.  I'm bad at ranking, so mine would probably be

Abbey Road = White > Sgt. Peppers = Rubber Soul = Revolver = Magical Mystery Tour > Let it Be > Hard Day's Night = Help = the rest

 
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: archie4208 on September 17, 2009, 10:48:23 AM
Abbey > Sgt Pepper > Rubber Soul > Revolver > White > MMT > the rest

I like White, but some of the filler is really awful.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 17, 2009, 06:14:41 PM
repost

Abbey Road > the White Album > Rubber Soul > Revolver > Sgt. Pepper's > Magical Mystery Tour > Let it Be >  Help > A Hard Day's Night > Please Please Me > With the Beatles > Beatles for Sale > Yellow Submarine (barely counts)

Past Masters isn't a real album, but I'd put it somewhere after A Hard Day's Night.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 18, 2009, 03:10:43 AM
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George Harrison was increasingly resentful — while he was treated respectfully by musical colleagues such as Bob Dylan and Eric Clapton, within the Beatles he felt that his songs were either derided or ignored (at one point during the rehearsals, Lennon responded to Harrison demonstrating his new song 'I Me Mine' to him by stating "We're a rock and roll band – run along, boy" and later chose to waltz with Ono, behaviour possibly intended to be a form of mockery, rather than contribute while the other three Beatles attempted to arrange and rehearse the song).
:lol

Listening to Let it Be right now.

edit: wow I really need to see this movie
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 18, 2009, 09:33:05 AM
John Lennon is a total dick. I hate him.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 18, 2009, 11:43:00 AM
I downloaded Rubber Soul in Mono to see if it's worth downloading the rest in Mono.  Just comparing a few songs, in mono the songs feel so different.  Like, with Wait, you have a lot of the vocals and smaller instruments on the right, main instruments from the left.  They actually sounds reasonably differently.  Might be worth it download the songs again in Mono, but I haven't found good links and am too lazy to look.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 18, 2009, 11:20:34 PM
here
http://bolachas.org/the-beatles-mono-remasters-2009#more-1311
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 18, 2009, 11:24:11 PM
The more I read on Sgt. Pepper and the more I listen, the more I'm convinced it is the best Beatles album.

It was truly ahead of its time.

Is there a general list of innovations this album brought to music somewhere? Because it seems to have plenty.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 19, 2009, 12:24:38 AM
here
http://bolachas.org/the-beatles-mono-remasters-2009#more-1311

Thanks.

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 19, 2009, 12:27:30 AM
Is there a general list of innovations this album brought to music somewhere? Because it seems to have plenty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper%27s_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band#Recording (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper%27s_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band#Recording)

http://www.icons.org.uk/theicons/collection/sgt-pepper/features/recording-techniques (http://www.icons.org.uk/theicons/collection/sgt-pepper/features/recording-techniques)
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2009, 12:54:18 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117951917528607822.html
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 19, 2009, 01:07:13 AM
Just A Day in the Life by itself is enough to be an entire focus on a recording innovations class or something.  Goddamn, that song.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 19, 2009, 01:09:30 AM
I probably have listened to Sgt. Pepper more than any of their other albums - it's my personal favorite (although in terms of overall quality and technical merits, I'd rank them differently).

A Day in the Life is an incredible song.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 19, 2009, 01:30:46 AM
Only Hendrix did The Beatles better than The Beatles:

[youtube=560,345]18zmztEwFEw[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]sIbRgVQMjbQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 19, 2009, 01:34:11 AM
Eh.  I think Hendrix's covers of all those classic songs are good, but I prefer the originals every time unless we're talking about All Along the Watchtower.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2009, 01:38:38 AM
I prefer the Beatles version but Hendrix can still pull a show.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2009, 01:47:36 AM
I dled the mono version of Sgt Pepper's that PD posted.

wtf, I can hear more subtle notes.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2009, 01:52:14 AM
The more I listen the more songs like Within In, Without You stand out. I don't think that song has really aged well.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 19, 2009, 01:56:01 AM
The more I listen the more songs like Within In, Without You stand out. I don't think that song has really aged well.

You should listen to the Love mash-up of Within You, Without You and Tomorrow Never Knows.  It's pretty bad ass.

edit: really shitty quality, but here it is:
[youtube=560,345]5Dq9NDRfb5Y[/youtube]
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 19, 2009, 02:06:54 AM
The mono version of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds sounds odd – especially in the chorus.  Did John and Paul sing into a fan?  That's what it sounds like.  The stereo version doesn't sound like that.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2009, 02:13:53 AM
How did they record Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds anyways? It sounds like John and Paul are singing into a helium balloon.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 19, 2009, 02:19:31 AM
I think what you're talking about is a method called varispeeding, where they recorded tracks at different tape speeds.  Maybe that's what I was referring to as well, now that I think about it.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2009, 02:23:50 AM
I am directly comparing Stereo and Mono Sgt. Pepper's songs, and mono is way more clear. I cannot make out what they're saying in the vocals at all say, in Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (track 1, not the whole album) in stereo but I can in mono.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 19, 2009, 02:32:42 AM
Have any of you guys heard the new McCartney album Electric Arguments? I rather like it. He played a few songs from the album when I saw him at Coachella. I really liked this one:

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcfiViHa1F4[/youtube]

It's not a bad album, but it's pretty boring.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 19, 2009, 02:35:02 AM
I am directly comparing Stereo and Mono Sgt. Pepper's songs, and mono is way more clear. I cannot make out what they're saying in the vocals at all say, in Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (track 1, not the whole album) in stereo but I can in mono.

Yeah Sgt. Pepper's is definitely the weakest stereo mix of their later albums.  I still prefer it over the mono version other than the beginning track and the Reprise.  A Day in the Life makes me wet in stereo.

edit: oh and She's Leaving Home as well, it sounds better in mono.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 19, 2009, 02:36:50 AM
A Day in the Life makes me wet in stereo.
:teehee
I guess I have to settle for being the forum's biggest Jenny Lewis fan.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2009, 02:41:57 AM
Yeah, Sgt. Pepper's is horrible in stereo. You lose all the awesome from the mono version.

I'm going to listen to the mono version while I'm in bed so I can compare.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 19, 2009, 02:46:00 AM
That's not necessarily true - some of the tracks on the mono version are altogether separate mixes; as in, there's also some stuff in the stereo versions that you can't here in the mono.  You can hardly here George's guitar backing in Lucy in the Sky in mono, whereas it's pretty prominent in the stereo version.  Within You Without You is fantastic in stereo, and I already mentioned how incredible A Day in the Life is either way.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 19, 2009, 02:57:49 AM
I was talking about the track not the album. :p
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 19, 2009, 05:58:34 PM
It's not a bad album, but it's pretty boring.

It's actually pretty good sex music, believe it or not.
shots fired
spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 20, 2009, 05:48:02 PM
The Beatles are the Beatles of Korea

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Together with the approximately 50,000 sales made by reservation in advance, almost all of the copies allocated for the Korean market were sold out. Initially, Korea imported 70,000 copies.

In Korea, industry sources say fewer than 10 albums sell more than 10,000 copies in a year. In that sad reality of the record industry in Korea, the Fab Four has apparently made a “fabulous comeback” and is rewriting history.

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2910292
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2009, 02:13:51 PM
I disagree with PD on Sgt. Pepper's. The first 6 tracks are all amazing. Except Getting Better.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 21, 2009, 02:17:52 PM
I like Getting Better  :(
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2009, 02:21:19 PM
I like it too. But PD says that Sgt. Pepper's has the best first 6 tracks in any album he's heard. I think Getting Better ruins that.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 21, 2009, 02:25:55 PM
Why haven't you downloaded Live at Wembley yet, you runt.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 21, 2009, 02:27:05 PM
I'd say Fixing a Hole "ruins" it, personally.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2009, 02:27:16 PM
Have I or haven't I? ;)
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2009, 02:29:00 PM
I'd say Fixing a Hole "ruins" it, personally.

I think Fixing A Hole is a complex song. The lyrics really make it.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 21, 2009, 02:34:54 PM
Hell, I actually think the second half of the album is better.  Not one song I skip. :bow2
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2009, 02:37:59 PM
Really? I'm starting to skip Within You Without You.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 21, 2009, 02:39:31 PM
Ewwww, why.  Incredible song - one of Harrison's best.  Followed by one of McCartney's best.  When I'm Sixty-Four :bow2
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2009, 02:43:12 PM
I skip it because, while interesting on the first few listens, it eventually becomes obnoxious. It stands out in the album and doesn't sound like anything else on it. It doesn't fit. It's also missing something. Harrison singing like he's Indian for 5 minutes gets old quick. It needs a bass guitar or something in there.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 21, 2009, 02:46:50 PM
for shame  :'(
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 21, 2009, 03:18:45 PM
First half is way better than the second half imho, which has filler.


Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - Great
With a Little Help from My Friends - :bow
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - Great
Getting Better - Great
Fixing a Hole - Great
She's Leaving Home - :bow
--------------------------------------------
Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite! - Alright
Within You Without You - Alright
When I'm Sixty-Four - Great
Lovely Rita - MEH
Good Morning Good Morning - MEH
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise) - Good but does it count?
A Day in The Life - :bow
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Himu on September 21, 2009, 03:23:03 PM
I love Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band not only because of the awesome intro with the guitar riffs, but also the amazing transition from that song to With A Little from My Friends :bow

Sgt. Pepper's - :bow
With A Little Help from My Friends - :bow
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - :bow
Getting Better - alright
Fixing a Hole - Great
She's Leaving Home - :bow
Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite - Great
Within You Without You - Meh
When I'm 64 - :bow
Lovely Rita - good, but the fact a love song is on Sgt. Pepper's is disappointing
Good Morning, Good Morning - Great
Sgt. Pepper's Reprise - Great
A Day in the Life - :bow
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: cool breeze on September 21, 2009, 06:46:44 PM
I like Getting Better  :(

It's alright.  Main reason I like it is for the quiet "it can't get worse" that comes in at points.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 21, 2009, 08:36:45 PM
I like Getting Better  :(

It's alright.  Main reason I like it is for the quiet "it can't get worse" that comes in at points.

Yeah, Lennon's flourish.  Learned how it came about in Beatles Rock Band  :-[
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Diunx on September 21, 2009, 09:06:26 PM
I love that song, probably my favorite after a little help from my friends.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 21, 2009, 09:12:05 PM
How on earth does Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite not get a  :bow2 ?

Easily one of the best tracks on the album.

 :bow McCartney's bass and Martin and Emerick's tape loops  :bow2
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Flannel Boy on September 23, 2009, 12:12:59 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/22/beatles-remasters-sales
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The remastered Beatles albums have broken chart records around the world, selling more than 2.25 million copies within days of release in North America, the UK and Japan.

...

Figures from record company EMI show UK sales of the digitally remastered albums have exceeded 354,000 in 11 days of release. The Fab Four's total UK album sales this decade now stand at 6,755,000.

...

The new wave of Beatlemania also hit Japan; all 14 titles and box sets debuted in the top 25 of the international chart there. More than 840,000 Beatles albums were sold in Japan in the first three days of release.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 23, 2009, 12:49:18 AM
Now imagine how much more money they would've made if EMI put the albums on iTunes!

Instead, every under the age of 30 downloaded them illegally.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 23, 2009, 03:41:07 AM
What's the reasoning behind not putting them on iTunes?
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: pilonv1 on September 23, 2009, 03:55:10 AM
NFI. All their solo shit is on there.

Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 23, 2009, 04:06:38 AM
A combination of the suit between Apple Records and Apple Computer and the existing estates being all...odd.  It'll come soon though.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Robo on September 23, 2009, 04:12:54 AM
A couple things.  Firstly is their trademark dispute with Apple Computers (vs. Apple Corp) a few years back when Apple introduced the iTunes store where they felt that Apple Computers was breaking an agreement where basically "Apple Corp" would be about music and "Apple Computers" would be about computers.  Apple Corp lost, obviously, or a settlement was reached, rather.

I'm sure they're past this particular grievance at this point as they consider the piles of money they're both missing out on. 

Secondly, and the main reason there's still no digital distribution, Apple Corp and EMI need to work out some sort of agreement to make it all happen and nothing has come of it yet.  Somebody feels they'd be getting fucked, I'm sure.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: EvilBoris on September 23, 2009, 08:40:49 AM
 the first two paul records are hugely charming. he should have trusted those sensibilities.
Title: Re: First Review of the Beatles Remastered Box Sets
Post by: Snuflupagulus on September 23, 2009, 05:29:32 PM
I''ll take my lumps, but I don't really care for any post-Beatles Lennon or McCartney music.

Paul never met a melody he wasn't willing to record unencumbered by editing or novelty.  He was/is a factory of banality.  Lennon obsessed over authenticity and a misguided outre-sensibility.  Most of his stuff isn't challenging as his admirers claim (or the even less meaningful and poorly-applied avant-garde label); it's just boring and unlistenable.  A really bad Lou Reed impression.

Lennon always gets a pass 'cause critics can praise his music while subtly praising themselves for seeing his hidden genius; a genius the public is too uncultured to see if the adulatory Rolling Stone interviews from the 70s are anything to go by.  The Lennon knob-gobbling in those interviews comes through, slurps, spittle, and all.

Sure, they each have singles that are good.  I particularly like Oh Yoko.  Lennon could write a great melody when he cared.  Paul's early stuff was good enough and then the 80s came and he went to utter shit.

Whether it was lyrics, melody, or musicianship (especially this for the later albums), the two needed each other to tame their inherent lame tendencies.