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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: maxy on September 24, 2009, 08:17:25 AM

Title: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: maxy on September 24, 2009, 08:17:25 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/gta-iv-ballad-of-gay-tony-amir?size=large (http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/gta-iv-ballad-of-gay-tony-amir?size=large)

 :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on September 24, 2009, 08:20:47 AM
:bow2

Quote from: Kosma on September 24, 2009, 08:20:42 AM
Why are GTA trailers always much better then the game itself?

Lost and the Damned had shitty trailers but the game was great
 
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Herr Mafflard on September 24, 2009, 08:04:33 AM
That's Omid Djalili. He's a British-Iranian comedian.

[youtube=560,345]EmRRC4QU-As[/youtube]
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2009, 07:30:16 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxkyeLgHrBQ&fmt=22[/youtube]
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 26, 2009, 09:07:10 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF0oaA9Eezc&feature=player_profilepage&fmt=22[/youtube]
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on October 26, 2009, 09:08:55 PM
semi-NSFW

[youtube=560,345]ySkTPNFEAAM[/youtube]

 
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2009, 09:09:52 PM
omfg :rofl
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 26, 2009, 09:11:00 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2009, 09:18:57 PM
that was a pretty accurate depiction of modern anime
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: pilonv1 on October 26, 2009, 10:13:37 PM
apparently

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Fernando is back if you buy the disc version
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Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 26, 2009, 10:21:32 PM
:lol

"only on CNT"
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Himu on October 26, 2009, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on October 26, 2009, 10:13:37 PM
apparently

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Fernando is back if you buy the disc version
[close]

 :o :o :o

I'm Fernando Martinez. Cinco cinco cinco, nueve dos nueve dos!
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: tiesto on October 27, 2009, 12:40:08 AM
So, are the Crookers and Major Lazer all they're adding to electro choc, or is more coming? I hope there's more coming, I really hate Major Lazer.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 27, 2009, 01:23:03 AM
Holy fucking shit.  are there going to be actual episodes of that in the game?  I never bothered to watch TV in GTAIV. 

and yeah anime fans, it's spot on.  :P
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: BlueTsunami on October 27, 2009, 01:30:51 AM
I've still got this game for PS3 but never got past a few missions. Maybe I should fire it up.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 27, 2009, 01:44:44 AM
Quote from: pilonv1 on October 26, 2009, 10:13:37 PM
apparently

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Fernando is back if you buy the disc version
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Crap. I wonder what happens with 'cheevs if you have both...
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: The Sceneman on October 27, 2009, 03:18:11 AM
Im looking forward to the combo disc with both DLCs. Fuck emo Nico Belic, say yes to Gay Tony and Gay Bikers. I cant wait for my first gay experience
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 27, 2009, 05:17:45 AM
[DEMI ALERT IN 3, 2, 1...]
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: demi on October 27, 2009, 05:20:21 AM
Um, I am playing this too. GTA4 is not Lost and Damned or Gay Tony. GTA4 is trash.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 27, 2009, 05:24:37 AM
I just wanted to be here for the bear-on-blancmange action if you give Scenester his first gay experience.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: bork on October 27, 2009, 06:00:40 AM
Quote from: Scenester on October 27, 2009, 03:18:11 AM
Im looking forward to the combo disc with both DLCs. Fuck emo Nico Belic, say yes to Gay Tony and Gay Bikers. I cant wait for my first gay experience

Considering picking this up too.  If the game play has been improved over GTA4, and the storylines are better (with no friend bullshit), I'm game.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 27, 2009, 06:05:04 AM
I dunno. I bought TLaD when it first came out, played a couple missions... Got a panicked phonecall from "Brian" asking to meet up near the clubhouse, about 4 seconds before arriving at the mission initiation point I got another call from Brian, he wanted to play darts.  :-\

Riding bikes is better tuned than in GTA4. Johnny is neat, but nothing special. I liked Nico, but it was the losers who surrounded him who bothered me. Johnny starts off with a great, antagonistic and dysfunctional relationship with the club boss, so that was already more interesting than GTA4.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 27, 2009, 07:23:28 AM
Wow, I might get this now.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: tiesto on October 27, 2009, 09:52:44 AM
Quote from: Kranz Fafka on October 27, 2009, 01:23:03 AM
Holy fucking shit.  are there going to be actual episodes of that in the game?  I never bothered to watch TV in GTAIV. 

and yeah anime fans, it's spot on.  :P

Pretty funny how it could apply to GTA fans too tho...
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 27, 2009, 06:19:10 PM
Quote from: tiesto on October 27, 2009, 09:52:44 AM
Quote from: Kranz Fafka on October 27, 2009, 01:23:03 AM
Holy fucking shit.  are there going to be actual episodes of that in the game?  I never bothered to watch TV in GTAIV. 

and yeah anime fans, it's spot on.  :P

Pretty funny how it could apply to GTA fans too tho...


Except the writing is good, voice acting is amazing, and the misogyny isn't couched in adolescent sexual fantasies.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Trent Dole on October 28, 2009, 01:03:12 AM
Quote from: Kranz Fafka on October 27, 2009, 06:19:10 PM
Quote from: tiesto on October 27, 2009, 09:52:44 AM
Quote from: Kranz Fafka on October 27, 2009, 01:23:03 AM
Holy fucking shit.  are there going to be actual episodes of that in the game?  I never bothered to watch TV in GTAIV. 

and yeah anime fans, it's spot on.  :P

Pretty funny how it could apply to GTA fans too tho...


Except the writing is good, voice acting is amazing, and the misogyny isn't couched in adolescent sexual fantasies.
Yes, the manchild sociopathery game is better than the foreign manchild cartoons, sure, whatever. It's all stupid time wasteing bullshit. Just shut up and enjoy whatever the hell it is you enjoy.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Seriously, how is anyone into GTA two gens later? I had my fill during the PS2 days and even then I was kind of baffled at all the twits who'd just discovered the game when I'd played the original one to death several years prior.
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Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: brawndolicious on October 28, 2009, 02:03:12 AM
I don't get how anybody liked the original PS2 games honestly, the gameplay was garbage.

back on topic, is it possible to play this without the original GTA4 disk?
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2009, 02:18:56 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on October 28, 2009, 02:03:12 AM
I don't get how anybody liked the original PS2 games honestly, the gameplay was garbage.

back on topic, is it possible to play this without the original GTA4 disk?

suck my dick
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 28, 2009, 02:21:45 AM
Quote from: Trent Dole on October 28, 2009, 01:03:12 AM
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Seriously, how is anyone into GTA two gens later? I had my fill during the PS2 days and even then I was kind of baffled at all the twits who'd just discovered the game when I'd played the original one to death several years prior.
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I dunno. Do people get sick of Madden? Forza or Gran Turismo iterations? Final Fantasy?

There are genres where I try the gameplay, only get a few levels in, and find that's been enough for me. I may not even finish the game. It's enough to understand the gameplay and move on. But something about learning a virtual geography, and then being able to apply that knowledge to solving the missions is a huge kick for me. It could simply be a matter of GTA3 hitting so many of the right pleasure centers that I'm willing to follow its model around endlessly.

In the previous generation I played the R3 Missions (Ambulance, Vigilante, Firefighter) endlessly, gradually getting better at them. Even with GTA3's map limitations, I became accustomed to judging where target-locations were just from incremental movements on the mini-map based on my current location and heading, from which I could deduce the most efficient means of getting to the target. It was like a monkey jamming on the button that rewards it with fruit; I was hooked.

Even so, with the removal of the R3 gameplay and inclusion of Taxis as the main means of transportation in GTA4, I found that I was unable to muster the will to just drive around. They'd removed the gameplay I wanted and even introduced new gameplay which entirely changed the dynamic established in the previous generation. As I play through the DLC, this time around I'm trying to play the game they've provided instead of the one I was expecting.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 28, 2009, 02:25:37 AM
That is god damn fucking fantastic
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: demi on October 28, 2009, 02:30:47 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on October 28, 2009, 02:03:12 AM
I don't get how anybody liked the original PS2 games honestly, the gameplay was garbage.

back on topic, is it possible to play this without the original GTA4 disk?

Yes dweeb
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 28, 2009, 02:31:34 AM
so do you still have to go on dates and shit in this, or what
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 28, 2009, 02:31:51 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on October 28, 2009, 02:03:12 AM
I don't get how anybody liked the original PS2 games honestly, the gameplay was garbage.

back on topic, is it possible to play this without the original GTA4 disk?
Yes, every single piece of news on the topic has hammered this home: the DLC requires the original disc, but if you buy the two-pack of Ballad of Gay Tony/Lost and the Damned, it is completely standalone, playable without the original disc.

The part where it's unclear is if the standalone disc version's Achievements count as separate titles -- can players double-up on Achievements through both DLC and disc playthrough?

What about multiplayer? Can BoGT/TLatD disc players join multiplayer games with GTA4 players? If not, what about GTA4+DLC players?

Last night I tried playing multiplayer activated out of a TLatD savefile. My online character model had a HUGE number of new costumes, mostly biker themed. When I tried to join a Ranked Deathmatch game, historically the easiest game to find, there were -no- players. One guy joined and we sat there for a couple minutes waiting for new players. No go. So I think GTA4 multiplayer gets limited by whatever DLC is activated. I definitely want to roll back into whatever environment which allows connecting with the most players.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: demi on October 28, 2009, 02:32:44 AM
Nobody actually plays GTA4 multiplayer
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on October 28, 2009, 02:33:58 AM
Quote from: demi on October 28, 2009, 02:30:47 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on October 28, 2009, 02:03:12 AM
I don't get how anybody liked the original PS2 games honestly, the gameplay was garbage.

back on topic, is it possible to play this without the original GTA4 disk?

Yes dweeb

It's either GTA4 disk in the system, plus the downloaded episode ($20 each), or the Episodes of Liberty City disk, which has both Gay Tony and Lost and Damned on it.  The Episodes disk is $40, so if you haven't played GTA4 (or just not on the 360) and still want this, you can just pick up the episodes disk.  And Amazon is selling it for $35 + $5 credit.

Quote from: chronovore on October 28, 2009, 02:31:51 AM
What about multiplayer? Can BoGT/TLatD disc players join multiplayer games with GTA4 players? If not, what about GTA4+DLC players?

Last night I tried playing multiplayer activated out of a TLatD savefile. My online character model had a HUGE number of new costumes, mostly biker themed. When I tried to join a Ranked Deathmatch game, historically the easiest game to find, there were -no- players. One guy joined and we sat there for a couple minutes waiting for new players. No go. So I think GTA4 multiplayer gets limited by whatever DLC is activated. I definitely want to roll back into whatever environment which allows connecting with the most players.


Both Lost and Damned and Gay Tony have their own multiplayer modes/system.  Like, Lost and Damned multiplayer had the chopper vs chopper where it was helicopter vs motorcycle (haven't played it myself).  Gay Tony has base jumping :rock
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: pilonv1 on October 28, 2009, 02:35:15 AM
I played it once and it was terrible
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on October 28, 2009, 02:37:12 AM
Quote from: Eel O'Brian on October 28, 2009, 02:31:34 AM
so do you still have to go on dates and shit in this, or what

Lost and the Damned didn't make you do any of that stuff.  Don't know if they would revert back or not, but Gay Tony has a dancing/club mini game, so maybe.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 28, 2009, 02:40:08 AM
Quote from: demi on October 28, 2009, 02:32:44 AM
Nobody actually plays GTA4 multiplayer

#7 says otherwise:
http://beta.majornelson.com/archive/2009/10/21/live-activity-for-week-of-oct-12th.aspx


Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 02:33:58 AM
Quote from: chronovore on October 28, 2009, 02:31:51 AM
What about multiplayer? Can BoGT/TLatD disc players join multiplayer games with GTA4 players? If not, what about GTA4+DLC players?

Last night I tried playing multiplayer activated out of a TLatD savefile. My online character model had a HUGE number of new costumes, mostly biker themed. When I tried to join a Ranked Deathmatch game, historically the easiest game to find, there were -no- players. One guy joined and we sat there for a couple minutes waiting for new players. No go. So I think GTA4 multiplayer gets limited by whatever DLC is activated. I definitely want to roll back into whatever environment which allows connecting with the most players.


Both Lost and Damned and Gay Tony have their own multiplayer modes/system.  Like, Lost and Damned multiplayer had the chopper vs chopper where it was helicopter vs motorcycle (haven't played it myself).  Gay Tony has base jumping :rock
Thanks for confirming. So if I want to play vanilla GTA4 multiplayer, how do I do that? In other games where the DLC limits play, there's usually a switch (UFC2009) or I just delete the DLC (Saints Row 2 Unkut Pack). Maybe I just load a GTA4 savegame and then jump into MP from there?
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on October 28, 2009, 02:42:45 AM
Quote from: chronovore on October 28, 2009, 02:40:08 AM
Thanks for confirming. So if I want to play vanilla GTA4 multiplayer, how do I do that? In other games where the DLC limits play, there's usually a switch (UFC2009) or I just delete the DLC (Saints Row 2 Unkut Pack). Maybe I just load a GTA4 savegame and then jump into MP from there?

yeah, you just jump into the GTA4 mode and it will be back to GTA4 multiplayer.  The game acts as if each episode is its own entity rather than an add-on to the main game.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: brawndolicious on October 28, 2009, 02:49:13 AM
So $40 for 12 hours of campaign and probably no online community?  I'll probably just rent it.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on October 28, 2009, 02:59:33 AM
Lost and Damned alone was probably 8-12 hours (depending on if you want to rush through it or do side missions).  Assuming Gay Tony matches that, then yeah, rent it.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Meier on October 28, 2009, 10:24:42 AM
Looking forward to at least renting this as I didn't play TL&tD.  I'm guessing you can't just rip the content and then play with your GTA disc as if you'd downloaded it right? (a la Oblivion GOTY edition, etc.)

Sounds like swaggaz probably answered it.  Guess we'll find out for sure in a day or two.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 28, 2009, 10:28:26 AM
Lost and the Damned was 6 to 10 hours for most people. I spent 15 hours on it. Damn good bargain imo.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: tiesto on October 28, 2009, 11:04:37 AM
Definitely gonna rent this, I hope the actual controls have been improved and the missions are a bit less frustrating. I'm expecting lots of little nods to NYC club culture thrown in there.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 28, 2009, 12:41:21 PM
It will be interesting to see how much the sales of Gay Tony are affected by the rental/gamefly/used market. With Lost and the Damned, most people assumed that the only way they'd ever play it was as DLC, until the disc double-pack was announced. This time people who want to play the new missions have an option to rent or buy it used.

It'll be flawed data, I know: at the very least, people who already bought the TLatD DLC can just buy Gay Tony for less than the price of the disc version.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 28, 2009, 01:27:41 PM
This is out tomorrow, eh?  definitely buying it.  still have some points left from that amazon price error a few months back.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on October 28, 2009, 02:01:06 PM
Quote from: tiesto on October 28, 2009, 11:04:37 AM
Definitely gonna rent this, I hope the actual controls have been improved and the missions are a bit less frustrating. I'm expecting lots of little nods to NYC club culture thrown in there.

The only real control improvement to Lost and Damned was making Motorcycles handle better (they used the logic that the main character was a biker, so he was naturally a better rider than Niko).  The motorcycles handled great in Lost and Damned, and it would take a lot for your to be thrown off.

As for mission structure, Lost and Damned had mid-mission checkpoints (every cutscene is basically a checkpoint now) meaning if you die during the action part of the mission, you don't need to replay the entire "drive to mission area" part. Gay Tony apparently lets you replay old mission too, which is nice.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 28, 2009, 02:08:41 PM
http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/103/1039898p1.html
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3176671
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/grand-theft-auto-iv-the-ballad-of-gay-tony-review
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/10/28/grand-theft-auto-4-the-ballad-of-gay-tony-review/
http://g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/62753/Grand-Theft-Auto-The-Ballad-of-Gay-Tony/review/
http://gameinformer.com/games/grand_theft_auto_iv_the_ballad_of_gay_tony/b/xbox360/archive/2009/10/28/review.aspx


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtTLOy0xvEk&fmt=22[/youtube]
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: maxy on October 28, 2009, 02:52:07 PM
I am playing it...looks better than TLAD

Just scored a chick on a dance floor and nailed it in a toilet :D
Now to drink something and impress another ...drinks are on the house :bow2
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Herr Mafflard on October 28, 2009, 04:38:51 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on October 26, 2009, 10:13:37 PM
apparently

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Fernando is back if you buy the disc version
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:o

:bow "Remember, a man who cannot support a medallion, cannot support a family." :bow2

words to live by
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on October 28, 2009, 07:21:00 PM
apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: pilonv1 on October 28, 2009, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 02:01:06 PM
As for mission structure, Lost and Damned had mid-mission checkpoints (every cutscene is basically a checkpoint now) meaning if you die during the action part of the mission, you don't need to replay the entire "drive to mission area" part. Gay Tony apparently lets you replay old mission too, which is nice.

So 12 months later it's starting to incorporate features from Saints Row? :drake
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 28, 2009, 08:05:20 PM
Quote from: pilonv1 on October 28, 2009, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 02:01:06 PM
As for mission structure, Lost and Damned had mid-mission checkpoints (every cutscene is basically a checkpoint now) meaning if you die during the action part of the mission, you don't need to replay the entire "drive to mission area" part. Gay Tony apparently lets you replay old mission too, which is nice.

So 12 months later it's starting to incorporate features from Saints Row? :drake

Except the changes matter now because they're in a game people will want to play (http://i37.tinypic.com/2m3l4le.jpg)
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 28, 2009, 09:09:31 PM
*weeps openly*  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: The Sceneman on October 29, 2009, 03:59:46 AM
I just picked up the combo disc with Lost and Damned and Gay Tony. This had better not suck... at the very least if the cheevs are reasonable w/ no collectathon crap I'll be happy.

In Lost and Damned will I be able to live out my fantasy of riding around Manhattan as a gay biker?!  :o
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 29, 2009, 06:53:49 AM
Quote from: Scenester on October 29, 2009, 03:59:46 AM
I just picked up the combo disc with Lost and Damned and Gay Tony. This had better not suck... at the very least if the cheevs are reasonable w/ no collectathon crap I'll be happy.

In Lost and Damned will I be able to live out my fantasy of riding around Manhattan as a gay biker?!  :o

Johnny's not gay, but there's plenty of angst. He's surly, antisocial, and dysfunctional. The club boss is pretty cool; he evokes the kind of fear that Deadwood's Al Swearengen did. There are no collection 'cheevs in TLatD. Ballad of Gay Tony looks like it may have, if the BASE jumping spots are not clearly designated.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 29, 2009, 01:45:26 PM
Early in but enjoying Ballad so far.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: bork on October 29, 2009, 02:50:46 PM
This just came from UPS, but I'm not touching it until after Bayonetta. 

How long is The Lost And The Damned?  I'm kinda anxious to play Gay Tony since it's the real reason why I caved in and ordered this in the first place.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 29, 2009, 03:47:49 PM
Man this attack helicopter is hard to target with no lock on feature.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: BlueTsunami on October 29, 2009, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 07:21:00 PM
apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

Dream locations

Rio
Japan
Back to San Andreas (love the laid back West Coast feel of the original)

I just hope they break away from the "stick inside the city" mentality. The non city shit in San Andreas rocked <3
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on October 29, 2009, 04:30:48 PM
OMG

 :rofl :rofl :rofl

My launch 360 red ringed just as soon as I booted this up.  It loaded the menu, then it was purple and black checkers with someone saying "hey".  I turn it off and on again, and bam, three red lights  :lol

Amazing.  :bow 360 :bow2

what is the standard protocol for handling a red ring these days?
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 29, 2009, 04:49:08 PM
https://support.xbox.com/support/en/us/nxe/registerdevice.aspx?step=repair
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on October 30, 2009, 02:30:39 AM
I haven't been liking it as much as Lost and Damned so far.  I played a good few missions and nothing has been really wild as seen in the trailer.  The characters are great, though.  I already like most of them more than any from vanilla GTA4 or Lost and Damned.  I'm most disappointed that I'm stuck driving cars again.  The bike in Lost and Damned was so good, and now I'm back to the bad driving from vanilla GTA4.

Quote from: BlueTsunami on October 29, 2009, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 07:21:00 PM
apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

Dream locations

Rio
Japan
Back to San Andreas (love the laid back West Coast feel of the original)

I just hope they break away from the "stick inside the city" mentality. The non city shit in San Andreas rocked <3

I still think the most awesome but unrealistic would be Europe done in a San Andreas style.  So you have mini-France, mini-Germany, mini-Italy, etc.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Himu on October 30, 2009, 02:48:46 AM
Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 07:21:00 PM
apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

What location.

Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 30, 2009, 03:40:24 AM
Quote from: Himuro on October 30, 2009, 02:48:46 AM
Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 07:21:00 PM
apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

What location.

Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 07:21:00 PM
apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

Quote from: swaggaz on October 29, 2009, 04:30:48 PM
OMG

 :rofl :rofl :rofl

My launch 360 red ringed just as soon as I booted this up.  It loaded the menu, then it was purple and black checkers with someone saying "hey".  I turn it off and on again, and bam, three red lights  :lol

Amazing.  :bow 360 :bow2

what is the standard protocol for handling a red ring these days?

Christ. I had this right about when I started playing the first GTA IV. What the hell did they put in the RAGE that kills 360s?
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: The Sceneman on October 30, 2009, 08:30:30 PM
man this game has some the worst gunplay and cover systems I have ever played, I remember why GTAIV sucked so bad now.

Still the story and characters are pretty good and engaging
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 30, 2009, 08:48:47 PM
What's killing me about TLatD now that I've got a working disc again, is the main character's default movement is a gamboling walk that feels like pushing a sack of potatoes through mud. A lot of work for very slow progress. In order to move any distance at speed, you also have to hold A Button to run, or repeatedly tap for sprinting. I keep forgetting to do that, and by default I'm making Johnny casually stroll around active gunfire scenes.  :-X When I /do/ remember to run, I usually hit RB in a panic, the Saints Row run button, which is not commonly helpful; that's the GTA IV "cover" button, and if there was some cover around, I wouldn't be running.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on October 30, 2009, 09:14:34 PM
yeah, I'm remembering how much I hate the driving and shooting playing Gay Tony right now.  The two hardest missions so far were a helicopter one and a precise driving one.  It's like driving a shampoo filled car on the moon.  One bump and suddenly the car is flipping out all over the place.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on October 30, 2009, 10:29:09 PM
I just played a mission and some races, and am beginning to remember that I liked GTA IV just fine... except for only having the story and races to do. The world is really well-realized in graphics, sound, and ambient NPCs. The bike races are pretty fun, though I'm still sucking at the driving model, it's nice to not fall of the bike as much. Despite some big riding mistakes, the only time I've been thrown off the bike is from ass-ending a taxi at top speed.  :P
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on October 31, 2009, 02:32:01 AM
They really glue you to the seat in Lost and Damned.

And I finished Gay Tony.  The game parts of Lost and Damned were better, but Gay Tony had genuinely great characters. :bow Yuseef :bow2  :bow Arab money :bow2

From the straight playthrough of Gay Tony and Lost and Damned, it's about ~18-20 hours of gameplay.  There are drug wars and base jumping diversions I haven't done yet.

I don't know if I made it clear there, but Lost and Damned was 8-10 hours and Gay Tony is 8-10 hours. They're together on the disk that's $40 (or $30 on amazon, at least last week it was).
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: bork on October 31, 2009, 03:07:37 AM
Sounds good.  I'd probably get sick of GTA after 20 hours.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on October 31, 2009, 08:03:34 PM
Blowing up the yaht with the helicopter? No problem.  Blowing up those 3 speedboats aftward?  Fucking ridiculous.

Someone give me some lock-on missiles or something.  I'm wasting all my money on hospital visits.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 31, 2009, 08:56:55 PM
Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on October 31, 2009, 08:03:34 PM
Blowing up the yaht with the helicopter? No problem.  Blowing up those 3 speedboats aftward?  Fucking ridiculous.

Someone give me some lock-on missiles or something.  I'm wasting all my money on hospital visits.

Yeah that mission took me an embarrasing number of attempts. Although it is still quite difficult its easier to shoot those boats with the heli guns rather than try to rocket them.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 01, 2009, 12:02:37 AM
I'm not finished with Gay Tony yet, but I've already put in 9 hours and I still have a bit to go. The only real extras I do are the drug wars because I like them. Good value for $20 bucks again like Lost and the Damned. This is the way all DLC should be value proposition wise when it isn't just multiplayer maps or something like that.

I think I'll probably clock in around 15 hours like I did with TLAD.

I'll post my thoughts when I'm finished.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Himu on November 01, 2009, 01:13:40 AM
drug wars like in chinatown?
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 01, 2009, 01:18:42 AM
Quote from: Himuro on November 01, 2009, 01:13:40 AM
drug wars like in chinatown?

Nah. I wish.  :D

They are basically just simple action missions. Go retrieve a stash of drugs (A duffel bag) and take it back to a safehouse. You unlock some weapon stuff by doing them.

There are a few activities like base jumping, the fight club (which sucks unfortunately), multi-vehicle races (meaning you parachute down into a boat and then race the boat to a car and then race in that to a checkpoint. (those are kinda cool), drug wars, and club management which is just kind of weird.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on November 01, 2009, 01:43:42 AM
Base jumping / the parachute in general is awesome.  It really made me want Just Cause 2.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 01, 2009, 09:05:54 AM
I love how over the top some of the missions have been so far.  Gay Tony gives GTA4 some much needed personality. It's like a return to the San Andreas or Vice City days.

I'm enjoying this much more than Lost & Damned, which was good, but too nihilistic for my tastes.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on November 01, 2009, 11:33:30 AM
Quote from: BlueTsunami on October 29, 2009, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 07:21:00 PM
apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

Dream locations

Rio
Japan
Back to San Andreas (love the laid back West Coast feel of the original)

I just hope they break away from the "stick inside the city" mentality. The non city shit in San Andreas rocked <3
Am I the only one hoping for a return to Vice City?
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 01, 2009, 11:37:43 AM
I want a new location or back to London (or somewhere else in Europe.)  Also hoping they do something in the 70s.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: bork on November 01, 2009, 12:05:13 PM
Quote from: ferrarimanf355 on November 01, 2009, 11:33:30 AM
Am I the only one hoping for a return to Vice City?

Enough of that shit.  It's time for them to pick/make a new location. 
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 01, 2009, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on November 01, 2009, 01:18:42 AM
Quote from: Himuro on November 01, 2009, 01:13:40 AM
drug wars like in chinatown?

Nah. I wish.  :D

They are basically just simple action missions. Go retrieve a stash of drugs (A duffel bag) and take it back to a safehouse. You unlock some weapon stuff by doing them.

There are a few activities like base jumping, the fight club (which sucks unfortunately), multi-vehicle races (meaning you parachute down into a boat and then race the boat to a car and then race in that to a checkpoint. (those are kinda cool), drug wars, and club management which is just kind of weird.


Really? Thats great! Maybe they learned their lesson finally, that players don't mind side missions, but some kind of reward is necessary.

I picked up Gay Tony, played for about 40 minutes. The characters do seem more in line with old GTA style ones. I decided to go back and finish Lost and Damned first, but I might not stick with that if there's a special Gay Tony multiplayer mode and you chaps are playing it.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 02, 2009, 06:28:16 PM
I've got a question about one of the missions -

What exactly do I need to when I'm fighting with the Russian gangsters against the police in the underground parking garage?  I exploded the remote explosive on the car but then it just seems there's an unending wave of police that I'm fighting against.  When I try to get into a car to escape none of the other douchebags get in with me so I'm forced to get out and waste literally all my ammo on the cops and then dying in the process.  I'm assuming there's something else here I need to be doing.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 02, 2009, 08:21:39 PM
"Mori!" HAH. I was expecting some Japanese guy. I'm stoked to see a return to this kind of crass humor.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: maxy on November 03, 2009, 01:50:25 AM
Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 02, 2009, 06:28:16 PM
I've got a question about one of the missions -

What exactly do I need to when I'm fighting with the Russian gangsters against the police in the underground parking garage?  I exploded the remote explosive on the car but then it just seems there's an unending wave of police that I'm fighting against.  When I try to get into a car to escape none of the other douchebags get in with me so I'm forced to get out and waste literally all my ammo on the cops and then dying in the process.  I'm assuming there's something else here I need to be doing.

You need to kill everyone in the garage,then your companions will run outside,follow them,battle a little,get in a car and escape.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 03, 2009, 02:33:11 PM
Thank you!

So there's an eventual end to the swarms of cops, eh?  At least now I know I'm not missing anything.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 03, 2009, 03:55:14 PM
this shit is on a disc? like i dont have to own GTA4 to play it? fuck. i'm renting it
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: The Sceneman on November 09, 2009, 01:29:21 AM
fuck yeh bith just finished the main Gay Tony storyline. TBH it was fucking awesome, fun varied missions, heaps of hilarious jokes and a really likable cast, with a villain who you just wanted to see get fucked up. Yusuf was awesome. "Im the fucking cobra of the skies! I fly with my cobra wings!" The finale was epic. This is GTA how it's supposed to be. Fun.

Got a lot of the achievements, just need the drug wars one and the 100% ones which will take a bit of work. I was relieved to find out that you dont have to complete all the targets in one run for 100%s for missions. i.e you can do a speed run, then go for headshots etc.

Im probably going to play through Lost and Damned now (much easier to 100%) then go back to Gay Tony for the 100%ing. Or maybe I should try and 100% Gay Tony now while its still fresh in my head.... ahhhh decisions. Doesnt help that this is a bumper month for new releases :( Im actually keen to pick up a copy of GTAIV now that its cheap.... only got around 30% through. Is GTAIV a cunt to 100%? Are there any fucking awful collectathons?
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: The Sceneman on November 09, 2009, 01:30:27 AM
Quote from: chronovore on November 02, 2009, 08:21:39 PM
"Mori!" HAH. I was expecting some Japanese guy. I'm stoked to see a return to this kind of crass humor.

:bow Mori :bow2

edit: why did I post twice? now my long post is one the previous page  :'(
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 09, 2009, 02:18:11 AM
Quote from: Scenester on November 09, 2009, 01:29:21 AM
fuck yeh bith just finished the main Gay Tony storyline. TBH it was fucking awesome, fun varied missions, heaps of hilarious jokes and a really likable cast, with a villain who you just wanted to see get fucked up. Yusuf was awesome. "Im the fucking cobra of the skies! I fly with my cobra wings!" The finale was epic. This is GTA how it's supposed to be. Fun.

Got a lot of the achievements, just need the drug wars one and the 100% ones which will take a bit of work. I was relieved to find out that you dont have to complete all the targets in one run for 100%s for missions. i.e you can do a speed run, then go for headshots etc.

Im probably going to play through Lost and Damned now (much easier to 100%) then go back to Gay Tony for the 100%ing. Or maybe I should try and 100% Gay Tony now while its still fresh in my head.... ahhhh decisions. Doesnt help that this is a bumper month for new releases :( Im actually keen to pick up a copy of GTAIV now that its cheap.... only got around 30% through. Is GTAIV a cunt to 100%? Are there any fucking awful collectathons?

I got yo' back, bruddah. Here is your long post for enjoyment, and a response to go with it:

Yeah, so far The Ballad of Gay Tony is just about what I was expecting GTA IV to be at launch. Outrageous humor, crazy action, and driving physics which are more fun than believable. If they'd just replace the back-alley arms dealer stuff with AMMU-NATION (:rock) I'd be wholly satisfied.

I'm convinced that even the driving model has been friendlied-up substantially, because I refuse to think I'm this good at the driving model so many months out of practice after finishing my 100% run and Liberty City Minute runs on the original GTA IV. Seriously, I could never figure out why they upped the difficulty on driving so heavily for IV while keeping the same stupid auto-lock-on shooting gameplay. Saints Row and Mercenaries doesn't aim for you, and their gameplay is not unmanageably difficult by any means.

In TBoGT I'm up to 40 Drug Wars missions, and it's unlocked two weapons for me so far. Side missions with in-game rewards for completion? It's like they answered my biggest complaint about the game.

Collect-a-thon in IV is pretty much the pigeons. Oddly, I enjoyed shooting them; they had visual and sound cues for finding them, and exploded in a satisfying manner.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 10, 2009, 11:03:33 AM
Finished 50/50 Drug Wars missions. I didn't get the final "weapon unlocked" message, because the game trips over itself to auto-save/display mission results/blit unlocks all at once.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Supposedly a gold uzi is given at 50, same as Yusuf has. I suspect like the exploding shotgun shells, it won't show up until the story missions have provided one to the player.
[close]

Side note: Exploding shotgun shells will FUCK UP VEHICLES. So, as a rule, don't use them against cars you're hoping to drive away. I accidentally shot a Drug Vehicle and accidentally compressed the ass end of it so badly that it wouldn't move. The wheels were wedged into the body at a weird angle. Physics simulation! :rock
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: M3wThr33 on November 10, 2009, 02:32:01 PM
The PC version of GTA4 just got a patch that adds Lost & Damned achievements.
Looks like the exclusivity is up soon.
(The first sign was last month, when Gamestop listed the strategy guide for Episodes from Liberty City as for PC, 360 and PS3)
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 10, 2009, 06:24:41 PM
How weird that they even excluded another MS platform from the exclusivity to begin with; I guess the contracts were plenty fun to complete with only the two console platforms.

However, does that mean it will open up to PS3, or that MS is exercising some other clause to have it expand to their other viable platform?

I'd just been assuming that the standalone disc was Rockstar's solution to not being able to /ever/ offer the DLC on PS3.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: archie4208 on November 10, 2009, 06:33:42 PM
Are there any more episodes in the pipeline?  I hated vanilla GTA4 but I have heard good things about the expansions.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: M3wThr33 on November 10, 2009, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: chronovore on November 10, 2009, 06:24:41 PM
How weird that they even excluded another MS platform from the exclusivity to begin with; I guess the contracts were plenty fun to complete with only the two console platforms.

However, does that mean it will open up to PS3, or that MS is exercising some other clause to have it expand to their other viable platform?

I'd just been assuming that the standalone disc was Rockstar's solution to not being able to /ever/ offer the DLC on PS3.

I'm sure it'll be announced soon for PS3/PC as both.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: bork on November 10, 2009, 08:32:04 PM
Quote from: archie4208 on November 10, 2009, 06:33:42 PM
Are there any more episodes in the pipeline?  I hated vanilla GTA4 but I have heard good things about the expansions.

This has been my experience so far:

-GTA4: Meh.  Problems abound, Saint's Row 2 fucking kills it, etc etc.
-The Lost And The Damned: Feels a little better than GTA4.  Characters aren't really particularly memorable or likeable so far.  Less you can do in comparison to the original game.
-The Ballad Of Gay Tony: Tried it briefly after being frustrated with another awful Lost mission.  Seemed MUCH better, likeable characters, smoother game play, etc.  I may just skip The Lost And The Damned and go right to Gay Tony if things keep up the way they have been going in Lost.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 10, 2009, 09:26:35 PM
Hmmm.... I've got mixed feelings on this one.

I sort of reached a wall sadly where I put this one on the back burner because there are simply a lot more better games out now at the moment which sort of says something...

I like it, but I don't like it as much as I wanted to nor do I like it as much as GTA 4 or the Lost and Damned and I was a big fan of both of those. The missions seem less well balanced and designed than TLAD. And the main character isn't as compelling as Niko so it suffers in comparison to both of the other titles imo.

It doesn't help that the controls which were just good enough for TLAD and GTA 4 to squeak by now seem downright frustrating in comparison to some of the newer cover games (Uncharted 2 for example) along with helicopter controls which have always been my least favorite of the GTA missions in any game.

I'll post a more a thoughtful "review" of the game once I finish but with some of the other games currently out, that could be awhile. Probably have to wait until xmas vacation to play this one.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 10, 2009, 11:23:01 PM
Storytelling-wise, TBoGT has been pretty great; a return to over-the-top form in some ways, but even better than any other GTA stories in many others. GTA IV, they wanted to tell an immigrant's story, and slowly introduce the whole sprawling entity of Liberty City. With TBoGT, I've been a little weirded out and impressed by the number of ways they convey Luis' character -- I'm not talking about the "Oscar-caliber" writing of the overall story arc, but how much Luis is a product of Liberty City.

There are booty calls instead of dates. It says something about Luis that he just goes up, bangs a chick, and leaves. No dates, no bowling, no food, no drinks, no small talk. He gets texts from Dana -- I don't even know who Dana is; she's faceless, never appearing in cutscenes, or including her face in pictures. Luis also nails them in the toilet of La Maissonette in a few cutscenes. He goes through women like kleenex. So to me, the insipid and pointless date function has been meta'd into the pointless way Luis uses women.

Then there are those "pedestrian" missions; I did my first one for TBoGT, and it was some clingy chick that Luis had been dodging. I'd never seen her before, but it was clear that Luis had. Later on, I checked the internet cafe for an unrelated mission, and there were some more mails from the same character, predating the pedestrian mission.

In GTA IV's Nico storyline, it frequently felt like the non-specific nationality foreigners were all dropped in the same stage. Gay Tony has been doing a very good job of reinforcing Liberty-City as a place, and Luis as a person -- with a life of his own which happened in LC. I feel like I've been dropped in the middle of something.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: The Sceneman on November 11, 2009, 01:12:28 AM
Luis is just striaght up cool IMO. He uses the word 'bro' a lot too so I can really relate to him lol

This 100% achievement sucks ballz, Ive 100%ed the first few missions but some of the time limits are pretty harsh and theres a bit of trial and error. I think Im going to have to do some more Drug Wars to build up my arsenal, Im always needing those fucking sticky bombs

Either that or play something else lol
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Trent Dole on November 11, 2009, 03:09:37 AM
TGL: So far you’ve worked on two games, The Getaway and Bully, would you be open to composing for other games in the future?
Shawn Lee: “Yes. It looks like I will be doing the soundtrack for Bully 2 in the not so distant future….”
^In other R* newsage...
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: The Sceneman on November 11, 2009, 03:38:42 AM
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

*hi fives Chronovore*
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 11, 2009, 04:18:40 AM
HOLY SHIT. I almost got up and danced around in a circle.

At work.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: cool breeze on November 11, 2009, 08:27:21 AM
Bully 2 :rock
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: demi on November 26, 2009, 03:56:16 AM
Quote from: demi on October 27, 2009, 05:20:21 AM
Um, I am playing this too. GTA4 is not Lost and Damned or Gay Tony. GTA4 is trash.

Sup bros, just updating this

Lost and Damned and Gay Tony are garbage, nothing has changed.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 26, 2009, 05:33:12 AM
You realized that it's all just more of the same?

I'm such a little Pavlovian mutt: all they had to do was add side missions with unlockables, and I started salivating like crazy.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: demi on November 26, 2009, 05:36:56 AM
What's wrong with TLAD:

Horrible story, horrible AI, horrible concept

What's wrong with Gay Tony:

Horrible story, horrible theme (Not the homos, the mexicans), distinguished mentally-challenged main character, TONS of fucking people calling you to hang out, distinguished mentally-challenged side missions

Flat out -bad-
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 26, 2009, 07:13:20 AM
I admit, the Drug Traffic (or whatevs) were repetitive, but I enjoyed a few scenes of emergent goofball play.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: demi on November 26, 2009, 10:39:26 PM
I swear I'm being trolled every time I play this.

So I'm doing "Ladies Night" mission. Follow a car in a helicopter.

What's wrong from the getgo:

- having to drive a horribly controlled helicopter

So I have to be patient. I can try.

Now I get to follow the car. What's this?

- No marker indicating the car, but rather, using some fixed camera angle that shows the car amidst hundreds of other similar cars. No arrows, no nothing.

Is this intentional? Do the designers make this and NOT sit back and play this? It's like one giant troll to the entire industry.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: Akala on November 26, 2009, 11:23:16 PM
coming from saint's row 2, this kinda blows.  :(
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: demi on November 26, 2009, 11:23:53 PM
I wish I could just ban everyone who likes this game. From life.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: The Sceneman on November 27, 2009, 12:45:33 AM
lol. You going to go for the percentage cheevs in Gay Tony demi? If you hate the game you'll haaaaaaate those. Stupidest achievements Ive seen in a while
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 27, 2009, 06:48:28 AM
Quote from: Akala on November 26, 2009, 11:23:16 PM
coming from saint's row 2, this kinda blows.  :(

Coming from SR2, what kills me every time is the movement. The basic movement. It feels like moving through molasses. It's like they were so stoked to make something that looked like realistic movement that they forgot to check if it was fun to actually move around. Trying to move the character on foot, you basically HAVE TO pump the A Button to get any kind of acceptable movement speed, unless you're trying to replicate cinema verité.

Let me repeat that for emphasis: standard on-foot movement requires constant button-chording or buttonmashing in addition to stick movement. WTF were they thinking?
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: SantaC on November 27, 2009, 01:00:35 PM
gay tony is the most overrated expansion pack ever
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: bork on November 27, 2009, 03:08:51 PM
Quote from: Akala on November 26, 2009, 11:23:16 PM
coming from saint's row 2, this kinda blows.  :(

Totally.  I just cannot get into the game and doubt I will keep it for much longer.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: demi on November 29, 2009, 04:02:03 AM
(http://tiles.xbox.com/tiles/5O/U5/0YCLiGJhbC9NCRoEGlxTVkYyL2FjaC8wLzM5AAAAAOfn5-4W5fg=.jpg)

All done

btw, I lost respect for anyone who enjoys this shit. So try your best not to acknowledge it.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: drew on November 29, 2009, 04:25:07 AM
if you dont like it then why force yourself to play the damn thing
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 29, 2009, 09:40:18 AM
Quote from: demi on November 29, 2009, 04:02:03 AM
(http://tiles.xbox.com/tiles/5O/U5/0YCLiGJhbC9NCRoEGlxTVkYyL2FjaC8wLzM5AAAAAOfn5-4W5fg=.jpg)

All done

btw, I lost respect for anyone who enjoys this shit. So try your best not to acknowledge it.
Then by that token, you should hate yourself more than those who enjoy it, because you're doing something for recreation that you don't even like.

By the way, I'm crazy impressed; there are already a couple missions where I don't think I'll be able 100% them. If it's just "mop-up" the remaining checkboxes, as Scenester says, I might be able to, but I'll not be getting any of them in a single run, I think.
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: OptimoPeach on November 29, 2009, 12:19:58 PM
Neither this nor Lost and the Damned are spectacular, but both are still better than Return to Liberty City. Plus, $40 :hyper

Quote from: Drewsy on November 29, 2009, 04:25:07 AM
if you dont like it then why force yourself to play the damn thing
ACHIEVEMENTS ACHIEVEMENTS ACHIEVEMENTS ACHIEVEMENTS ACHIEVEMENTS ACHIEVEMENTS

demi should play WoW
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on November 29, 2009, 07:14:14 PM
What's "Return to Liberty City"? Are you just referring to vanilla GTA IV?
Title: Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
Post by: chronovore on January 25, 2010, 05:35:46 AM
>>I've been playing a metric ass-tonne of Ballad of Gay Tony, and am happy with it.

The humor has been restored to the series with the Gay Tony storyline, though both DLC packages' heavy tie-ins to the main GTA IV story are an unwelcome effort. I've had enough of Nico and those diamonds during IV's main storyline. The whole "see how we planned this all along?" vibe during the diamond sequences is masturbatory.

Other than that, I was happy to see Brucie back and disturbed as ever, his brother Mori was great, as were Gay Tony and his abusive boyfriend, and Yusuf Amir was probably the best GTA character this generation. As for Luiz, overall it was nice to have a protagonist who isn't wallowing in existential angst over what it means to be a killer but Luiz didn't really make me feel good or bad about playing, he's just a guy who goes through life without thinking much about his place in it. That's fine, but the level of story present in San Andreas, or even Vice City Stories was not in evidence.

I am really not sure about going back and 100%-ing the missions. There are just too many ways to screw up during a mission, or to be screwed. Getting 80% of the way through a perfect playthrough toward a specific goal, such as time-attacking it and then getting hosed by some tiny, random incident -- it's not fun. I am enjoying that the missions were totally fun, and I'm wanting to play through them without using a Retry, but doing them 6 or 7 times is going to rub off what lustre has been returned to the series for me.