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Title: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Billy Rygar on November 29, 2009, 06:32:55 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/world/europe/30swiss.html?hp (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/world/europe/30swiss.html?hp)
 :swisscry :swisscry :swisscry
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 29, 2009, 06:35:57 PM
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/11/29/world/29minarets_inline/popup.jpg)

what year is it again
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: CajoleJuice on November 29, 2009, 06:40:01 PM
Where's cloud with her  :swiss now???
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Fresh Prince on November 29, 2009, 06:40:29 PM
It's very interesting how the minarets look like missiles....
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 29, 2009, 06:56:07 PM
Where's cloud with her  :swiss now???

To be fair, I believe she already updated her Facebook a day or two ago blasting her people.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on November 29, 2009, 06:58:50 PM
So we can expect Switzerland to be on fire on monday?
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 29, 2009, 06:59:18 PM
Where's cloud with her  :swiss now???

To be fair, I believe she already updated her Facebook a day or two ago blasting her people.

Yup.  Pretty crazy law.  Come to America, Muslims!  We treat our Muslims right.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 29, 2009, 07:08:50 PM
Good thing Europe isn't racist like those backward Amurikans.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 29, 2009, 07:09:41 PM
Good thing Europe isn't racist like those backward Amurikans.

Europeans are totally racist, the majority of them are just polite about it.  Americans don't know how to be polite.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 29, 2009, 07:12:07 PM
Good ol' fashioned, honest racism.  :american
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 29, 2009, 07:13:51 PM
Europe continues it's march back to the stone age :bow

BNP :piss2
Swiss :piss2
Susan Doyle :piss2
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Fresh Prince on November 29, 2009, 07:16:43 PM
Europeans are totally racist, the majority of them are just polite about it.  Americans don't know how to be polite.
Very succinct Mr Triumph.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 29, 2009, 08:06:58 PM
I can only expect the tensions to get worse, which means the far right will keep making gains.

Good thing Europe isn't racist like those backward Amurikans.

You ignorant Americans just don't understand. /EuroGAF
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 29, 2009, 08:13:12 PM
I've heard more about these kind of things happening in Europe in recent years than I ever remember hearing about before.  Why is the far right gaining ground all the sudden?
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Brehvolution on November 29, 2009, 08:16:39 PM
Christians always gotta be fukin' with the muslims.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 29, 2009, 08:48:52 PM
I've heard more about these kind of things happening in Europe in recent years than I ever remember hearing about before.  Why is the far right gaining ground all the sudden?

Tensions due to huge numbers of muslims migrating to Europe.

How do you feel about that?
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 29, 2009, 09:19:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe#Projections

I did not know about this. 
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: archie4208 on November 29, 2009, 09:21:19 PM
Our Muslim president could not have been elected in Europe. :american
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: brawndolicious on November 29, 2009, 09:22:27 PM
The only possible way that they could pass this as not being religious discrimination is if the muslims did calls to prayer a 5 AM but the article mentions that of the TWO minarets that were built so far, neither is used for doing a call to prayer.

I hope some muslims go and make some minaret shaped mosques or something as a way around this just to fuck with them.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 29, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
When I read the headlines I thought it was just a law, but they added it to the fucking Constitution! :lol

Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on November 29, 2009, 09:33:24 PM
When I read the headlines I thought it was just a law, but they added it to the fucking Constitution! :lol



Holy shit!
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Tauntaun on November 29, 2009, 09:39:10 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Fresh Prince on November 29, 2009, 09:41:09 PM
Harry Lime was wrong!
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 29, 2009, 11:10:58 PM
I wish the teabaggers/right wingers in my country could come up with propaganda posters as cool as the Swiss ones
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Mandark on November 29, 2009, 11:18:58 PM
Switzerland also waited until 1971 to give women full voting rights.

:piss :swisscry :piss2
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Tauntaun on November 29, 2009, 11:24:51 PM
Switzerland also waited until 1971 to give women full voting rights.

:piss :swisscry :piss2

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Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Donono on November 30, 2009, 02:46:58 AM
Where's cloud with her  :swiss now???

To be fair, I believe she already updated her Facebook a day or two ago blasting her people.

Yup.  Pretty crazy law.  Come to America, Muslims!  We treat our Muslims right.

LOL.

Oh are you being serious?
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 30, 2009, 07:38:33 AM
Where's cloud with her  :swiss now???

To be fair, I believe she already updated her Facebook a day or two ago blasting her people.

Yup.  Pretty crazy law.  Come to America, Muslims!  We treat our Muslims right.

LOL.

Oh are you being serious?
I think the only thing the USA is guilty of is some good-old fashioned profiling, but we haven't amended our constitution to disenfranchise muslims yet.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: archie4208 on November 30, 2009, 08:34:20 AM
Where's cloud with her  :swiss now???

To be fair, I believe she already updated her Facebook a day or two ago blasting her people.

Yup.  Pretty crazy law.  Come to America, Muslims!  We treat our Muslims right.

LOL.

Oh are you being serious?
I think the only thing the USA is guilty of is some good-old fashioned profiling, but we haven't amended our constitution to disenfranchise muslims yet.

If we can't even update our constitution to disenfranchise gays, then mooslems have no chance. :/
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 30, 2009, 01:22:56 PM
Minarets are cool to look at too. Its all like, I'm drivin' around

I'm in the ghetto
I'm in the ghetto
I'm in the ghetto
I'm in Egypt
I'm in the ghetto
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 30, 2009, 01:27:07 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Donono on December 01, 2009, 11:05:45 AM
Where's cloud with her  :swiss now???

To be fair, I believe she already updated her Facebook a day or two ago blasting her people.

Yup.  Pretty crazy law.  Come to America, Muslims!  We treat our Muslims right.

LOL.

Oh are you being serious?
I think the only thing the USA is guilty of is some good-old fashioned profiling, but we haven't amended our constitution to disenfranchise muslims yet.
Eh, I'd say it's here--same as in der Schweiz... the only thing I would argue now is that at least their racism is evident while we bury ours (which makes it worse).  At least my experiences with Seattle Racism have me feeling that way.  If a similar proposition came up... I bet it might not pass, but people overwhelmingly feel the same way as the Swiss I'm sure.  At least the Swiss are upfront about it.

Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Mupepe on December 01, 2009, 11:08:06 AM
Yeah, being proud of racism is way better than realizing it is something to be ashamed of.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on December 01, 2009, 11:10:31 AM

Eh, I'd say it's here--same as in der Schweiz... the only thing I would argue now is that at least their racism is evident while we bury ours (which makes it worse).  At least my experiences with Seattle Racism have me feeling that way.  If a similar proposition came up... I bet it might not pass, but people overwhelmingly feel the same way as the Swiss I'm sure.  At least the Swiss are upfront about it.

Our racism is soo hidden you have to look to find it.  :lol

Or... maybe America isn't anywhere near as racist as you people like to think.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Brehvolution on December 01, 2009, 11:50:51 AM
How many white Saudi kings have their been?
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Donono on December 01, 2009, 11:54:06 AM
Yeah, being proud of racism is way better than realizing it is something to be ashamed of.

Well that's not really what I meant.  I'm not saying them banning the spires is good, or that the prejudice is good and is something that people shouldn't be ashamed of... but that the vote at least brings the bullshit out from the shadows and into the open where it can be addressed--which is good.

That's all.

You'd think there would be some sort of something in place to prevent such a vote, but apparently not.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on December 01, 2009, 11:59:17 AM

You'd think there would be some sort of something in place to prevent such a vote, but apparently not.

If only there was a way we could stop the citizens from voting.

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Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Donono on December 01, 2009, 12:03:17 PM
meant something like the supreme court knocking the thing down because it violates the rights of others.

...I don't know anything about how Switzerland works so
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on December 01, 2009, 12:19:55 PM
From what I understand they changed their constitution. So for the supreme court to invalidate their vote would to basically invalidate their constitution.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Tieno on December 01, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
that's what free market democracy gets you!
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Mupepe on December 01, 2009, 12:45:23 PM
Yeah, being proud of racism is way better than realizing it is something to be ashamed of.

Well that's not really what I meant.  I'm not saying them banning the spires is good, or that the prejudice is good and is something that people shouldn't be ashamed of... but that the vote at least brings the bullshit out from the shadows and into the open where it can be addressed--which is good.

That's all.

You'd think there would be some sort of something in place to prevent such a vote, but apparently not.
The only thing is, bringing it out like this moves people backwards.  No one in the US is so dumb to think that racism doesn't exist.  But bringing it out in this kind of fashion does nothing.  It's a fight that's already been fought.  There's no clear cut answer on educating and addressing racial issues, but this is definitely not the way.  If anything, this just raises tensions and emotions which usually makes the average person dumber. 

And yeah, common decency tells us that this shouldn't have ever gotten this far.  But this is how it works.  It sucks, but so does Prop 8 in California.  When it comes to democracy, you gotta take the good with the bad.  Even if it means living with the idiotic choices of your fellow citizens.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 01, 2009, 01:14:46 PM

Eh, I'd say it's here--same as in der Schweiz... the only thing I would argue now is that at least their racism is evident while we bury ours (which makes it worse).  At least my experiences with Seattle Racism have me feeling that way.  If a similar proposition came up... I bet it might not pass, but people overwhelmingly feel the same way as the Swiss I'm sure.  At least the Swiss are upfront about it.

Our racism is soo hidden you have to look to find it.  :lol

Or... maybe America isn't anywhere near as racist as you people like to think.

...said the racist.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on December 01, 2009, 01:15:22 PM
Good Job :highfive
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 01, 2009, 01:36:03 PM
There have been a lot of stories recently about racism in Europe. Which is good because I'm so tired of EuroGAF tsk tsk'ing at the US' race issues, all while culturally justifying their own ignorance and fearmongering minority groups (moslems, gypsies, Xbox 360 owners)
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Tieno on December 01, 2009, 01:55:09 PM
There have been a lot of stories recently about racism in Europe. Which is good because I'm so tired of EuroGAF tsk tsk'ing at the US' race issues, all while culturally justifying their own ignorance and fearmongering minority groups (moslems, gypsies, Xbox 360 owners)
The superiority well we Europeans source our amerilols from is much deeper than any american can ever grasp, race issues are but a small part.

:smug
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on December 01, 2009, 01:56:20 PM
There have been a lot of stories recently about racism in Europe. Which is good because I'm so tired of EuroGAF tsk tsk'ing at the US' race issues, all while culturally justifying their own ignorance and fearmongering minority groups (moslems, gypsies, Xbox 360 owners)

You do have to admit that the dirty poles deserve what they get.  :P
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: brawndolicious on December 01, 2009, 05:35:38 PM
Overt racism is much worse than hidden racism as people who are fine showing it usually have the support of their whole community and so they won't want have any need/want to change themselves.  People who hide it can usually change more.

It would have made a lot more sense if they just tightened their immigration standards to require knowing the language/history or something that would actually help the immigrants assimilate.  I just know that this type of bullshit just makes moderate muslims angry at the "natives" and of course the radical ones will just be crazier.

How many white Saudi kings have their been?
Apparently all of them lol.  Middle-eastern was filed under "white" when I was filling out college demographics information last night.

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Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: brawndolicious on December 01, 2009, 05:48:07 PM
A lot of middle-easterners are serious racists against each other actually.  I knew this one fob from Iran who always said in a serious manner that all Arabs have just big, big dicks and balls but they have no brains.  I thought it was like a language barrier not allowing me to notice his sarcasm at first but then he went on and on about how they all don't let their women drive just so that they don't get caught doing homosexual things to each other and with camels and how David Hassellhoff is a well-known arab-fucker*.

*in English.

That guy's probably an extreme example but I've heard a lot of similar racist stuff elsewhere.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: CajoleJuice on December 01, 2009, 05:56:46 PM
It's like how Hispanics hate each other.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: Diunx on December 01, 2009, 06:03:46 PM
That's true, I hate mexicans and Argentinians.
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: chronovore on December 02, 2009, 09:28:58 PM
A lot of middle-easterners are serious racists against each other actually.  I knew this one fob from Iran who always said in a serious manner that all Arabs have just big, big dicks and balls but they have no brains.  I thought it was like a language barrier not allowing me to notice his sarcasm at first but then he went on and on about how they all don't let their women drive just so that they don't get caught doing homosexual things to each other and with camels and how David Hassellhoff is a well-known arab-fucker*.

*in English.

That guy's probably an extreme example but I've heard a lot of similar racist stuff elsewhere.
What does it mean to be "a well-known arab-fucker"?

One of the things I was stunned about when arriving in Japan is the racism Asians have for each other. There are a number of "enlightened" Japanese who are not racist, but it feels like the majority of Japanese people have no self-consciousness at all when they say Koreans are violent and hot-tempered, or that Chinese are untrustworthy,cheats.

It's weird because it helps me realize that I'm not excepted from racism, just benefiting from reverse-racism. "He's white! He can probably fire a machine gun and call on the power of Christ to defeat bad guys!"
Title: Re: Good Jon Switzerland
Post by: brawndolicious on December 02, 2009, 09:32:07 PM
What does it mean to be "a well-known arab-fucker"?
A dude who fucks arabs, dude.