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Title: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 12:53:02 AM: I'll go first.

Put in SO3 in my ps3 a few months back.

Was greeted with this.

[youtube=560,345]gzMOBGl3K9I[/youtube]

Turned system off.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 01:02:18 AM: [youtube=560,345]oUgmSvC8i90[/youtube]
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2009, 01:03:41 AM: Best:
[youtube=560,345]XlHZrBUimuY[/youtube]

tri-ace :bow2
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Purple Filth on December 03, 2009, 01:06:02 AM: Quote from: swaggaz on December 03, 2009, 01:03:41 AM
Best:
[youtube=560,345]XlHZrBUimuY[/youtube]

tri-ace :bow2

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

still hilarious
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Akala on December 03, 2009, 01:06:43 AM: beaten on all counts. :(
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 03, 2009, 01:41:38 AM: dinner :rofl
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: iconoclast on December 03, 2009, 01:50:11 AM: Shit, you could post nearly every cutscene in Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean 4 in this thread. They're all sooooo bad.

Eternal Sonata is another game filled with awful cutscenes (spoilers):
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKnqtq8QTU0[/youtube]
[close]
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Vizzys on December 03, 2009, 01:53:47 AM: [youtube=560,345]LISmPmdUhYA[/youtube]
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2009, 01:55:52 AM: :bow Mega Man X4 :bow2
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: BlueTsunami on December 03, 2009, 03:13:55 AM: Oh my god, I kept clicking back at 1:03 in that Megaman video and I can't breath
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 03, 2009, 04:15:11 AM: Quote from: Himuro on December 03, 2009, 12:53:02 AM
I'll go first.

Put in SO3 in my ps3 a few months back.

Was greeted with this.

[youtube=560,345]gzMOBGl3K9I[/youtube]

Turned system off.

I don't understand how there are people who actually enjoy things like this.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: T-Short on December 03, 2009, 05:06:54 AM: [youtube=560,345]M_XnGVFzJzA[/youtube]

:-X
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: bork on December 03, 2009, 05:25:23 AM: If only more games did what Offworld Interceptor did in its cut scenes.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHihdxx8t78[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kf47yG4M7Y[/youtube]
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: bork on December 03, 2009, 05:28:26 AM: And who can forget the CD-I classics?

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H9fuCtwCJY[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibK0Nj0sjyU[/youtube]
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: magus on December 03, 2009, 05:31:13 AM: *opens thread*
"well at least i don't have to suffer the usual guy saying that laughing scene in FFX was bad since it's what always happen in these kinds of thread"
*scrolls down*
"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 03, 2009, 06:29:36 AM: 16 fucking posts and not one mention of MGS games? A pox on all your houses, gentlemen.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Kestastrophe on December 03, 2009, 06:37:44 AM: [youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHCVoZmziak#t=4m0s[/youtube]

the whole thing is a joke, but I like 4:00 the best :teehee
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: magus on December 03, 2009, 06:42:31 AM: Quote from: Вiff Кoммiёslaуer on December 03, 2009, 06:29:36 AM
16 fucking posts and not one mention of MGS games? A pox on all your houses, gentlemen.
you know this is kinda off topic but now i feel the need to post this
http://www.slowbeef.com/MG2/
and the best bit of it
http://www.slowbeef.com/MG2/chap58.html
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 09:35:34 AM: Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on December 03, 2009, 06:21:38 AM
jrpgs are horrible

Not as bad as AIDS tho.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 09:39:14 AM: I was going to post one from Star Ocean 4, but then I realized that they're ALL the worst cutscenes that I've ever seen.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 03, 2009, 10:18:44 AM: Just post videos of playthroughs of Shenmue 1 & 2.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: chronovore on December 03, 2009, 10:39:33 AM: Thanks! You guys have added another 10 years before I'm even willing to ever try a JRPG. Wow. This is just epically bad.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 10:50:52 AM: Quote from: chronovore on December 03, 2009, 10:39:33 AM
Thanks! You guys have added another 10 years before I'm even willing to ever try a JRPG. Wow. This is just epically bad.

Star Ocean 4 was the anvil that broke the camel's back, so to speak. I haven't really played a big budget JRPG since then. I'll break that streak with FFXIII, but I'm not expecting much anymore.

SO4 is easily my biggest disappointment of this generation.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 11:23:46 AM: SO3 + SO4 + IU + ES + MGS4 + some Capcom and you have them all covered.

Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 10:50:52 AM
Quote from: chronovore on December 03, 2009, 10:39:33 AM
Thanks! You guys have added another 10 years before I'm even willing to ever try a JRPG. Wow. This is just epically bad.

Star Ocean 4 was the anvil that broke the camel's back, so to speak. I haven't really played a big budget JRPG since then. I'll break that streak with FFXIII, but I'm not expecting much anymore.

SO4 is easily my biggest disappointment of this generation.

That's because it's a terrible game. Go play something good to wash the taste out.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 11:28:28 AM: Quote from: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 10:50:52 AM
Quote from: chronovore on December 03, 2009, 10:39:33 AM
Thanks! You guys have added another 10 years before I'm even willing to ever try a JRPG. Wow. This is just epically bad.

Star Ocean 4 was the anvil that broke the camel's back, so to speak. I haven't really played a big budget JRPG since then. I'll break that streak with FFXIII, but I'm not expecting much anymore.

SO4 is easily my biggest disappointment of this generation.

That's because it's a terrible game. Go play something good to wash the taste out.

I tried Infinite Undiscovery, but that didn't work out so well.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 11:38:42 AM: Quote from: chronovore on December 03, 2009, 10:39:33 AM
Thanks! You guys have added another 10 years before I'm even willing to ever try a JRPG. Wow. This is just epically bad.

You've never played one, like ever? And you live in Japan?
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 12:09:38 PM: Let's try to deduce what the worst cutscene in MGS4 is.

[youtube=560,345]zYTymyUvawU[/youtube]

Worst story ever
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 03, 2009, 12:11:22 PM: Quote from: Himuro on December 03, 2009, 12:09:38 PM
Let's try to deduce what the worst cutscene in MGS4 is.

[youtube=560,345]zYTymyUvawU[/youtube]

Worst story ever

This goes beyond terrible and into the realm of insulting
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 12:14:19 PM: At least that one was somewhat entertaining despite being long-winded and cringeworthy

The hour long cutscene where Big Mama retcons the entire story of the series >______________________________________<
The hour long cutscene in the harbor with ocelot finger shooting >_____________________________________________<

MGS1-3 cutscenes = :rock, MGS4 cutscenes = :-\

Hell that could describe the games too! I think Kojima really didn't want to make MGS4.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 12:17:16 PM: Quote from: Himuro on December 03, 2009, 12:09:38 PM
Let's try to deduce what the worst cutscene in MGS4 is.

[youtube=560,345]zYTymyUvawU[/youtube]

Worst story ever

Why doesn't she just pick up one of the many machine guns that's now littering the floor?
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 12:18:55 PM: The cutscene with Ocelot finger shooting was hilarious BECAUSE of the finger shooting. It was pure MGS: all camp.

But this shit is AWFUL. It's not entertaining, it's AWFUL. Oh WE'RE DEAD. Except we're not! MERYL-SAN, WILL YOU MARRY ME?! Johnny-kun, how could you propose while we're being shot at by crazy pmc ninjas? I DON'T CARE MERYL-SAN. DIE WITH ME.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2009, 12:20:45 PM: Kojima Mr and Mrs Smith super fan #1
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 12:22:17 PM: [youtube=560,345]67RDfn49ZGo[/youtube]

:lol
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 12:23:51 PM: What I'm curious is, why did Kojima make a two bit side character into a major character in MGS4? No one cares about Johnny. We just want to see him be constipated and poop in a trash can because lol so fun knee.

Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 12:22:17 PM
[youtube=560,345]67RDfn49ZGo[/youtube]

:lol

I can't hate on XG's ending because YOU KILL GOD.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 03, 2009, 12:27:55 PM: Quote from: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 12:14:19 PM
MGS1-3 cutscenes = :rock, MGS4 cutscenes = :-\

Hell that could describe the games too! I think Kojima really didn't want to make MGS4.

I *KNOW* for a fact you didn't just try and say that MGS2 was good. No, no one could do that.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 12:29:47 PM: Quote from: Вiff Кoммiёslaуer on December 03, 2009, 12:27:55 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 12:14:19 PM
MGS1-3 cutscenes = :rock, MGS4 cutscenes = :-\

Hell that could describe the games too! I think Kojima really didn't want to make MGS4.

I *KNOW* for a fact you didn't just try and say that MGS2 was good. No, no one could do that.

The story is balls but the game still has a lot of hilarious camp value. Like the part where you first meet the President and he grabs Raiden's nut sack to see if he's a girl or not. :lol
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 03, 2009, 12:30:32 PM: Quote from: Himuro on December 03, 2009, 12:29:47 PM
Quote from: Вiff Кoммiёslaуer on December 03, 2009, 12:27:55 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 12:14:19 PM
MGS1-3 cutscenes = :rock, MGS4 cutscenes = :-\

Hell that could describe the games too! I think Kojima really didn't want to make MGS4.

I *KNOW* for a fact you didn't just try and say that MGS2 was good. No, no one could do that.

The story is balls but the game still has a lot of hilarious camp value. Like the part where you first meet the President and he grabs Raiden's nut sack to see if he's a girl or not. :lol

Sorry, no. It's terrible and insulting. The whole game is a piece of shit.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Akala on December 03, 2009, 12:34:00 PM: Quote from: magus on December 03, 2009, 06:42:31 AM
Quote from: Вiff Кoммiёslaуer on December 03, 2009, 06:29:36 AM
16 fucking posts and not one mention of MGS games? A pox on all your houses, gentlemen.
and the best bit of it
http://www.slowbeef.com/MG2/chap58.html

How can you not think Zanzibar Hamsters are awesome?
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2009, 12:35:31 PM: I replayed MGS2 before MGS4, and yeah, some of the cutscenes are pretty bad. Fortune is the absolute worst.

Olga's hairy armpits still rock, though.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 12:36:36 PM: Kojima should kill himself.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: duckman2000 on December 03, 2009, 12:54:50 PM: Some of the stuff in ODST seems like it would fit in well here. Specifically, the stuff towards the end.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: duckman2000 on December 03, 2009, 03:04:37 PM: Quote from: Borys on December 03, 2009, 02:57:05 PM
what is wrong with that? Seems like 90% of other jRPG cutscenes.

I think you have your answer.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 03:05:55 PM: That one in Halo 2 with the tentacle plant creature was pretty bad and WTF.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Kestastrophe on December 03, 2009, 03:06:12 PM: I am about to start MGS4 for the first time, so I may make more contributions to this thread :teehee
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 03:07:04 PM: Make sure you have a loaded gun next to your controller, kestastrophe. You know, just in case. And don't play it in front of the wife. PLEASE don't.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM: You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Quote from: Kestastrophe on December 03, 2009, 03:06:12 PM
I am about to start MGS4 for the first time, so I may make more contributions to this thread :teehee
Compared to the Tri-Ace stuff in this thread, the cutscenes of MGS4 are incredible.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 03:30:05 PM: Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Good thing there's been a lot of really great WRPGs in the past few years.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 03:35:09 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Good thing there's been a lot of really great WRPGs in the past few years.

There has?
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:36:15 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Good thing there's been a lot of really great WRPGs in the past few years.
That would be great, but I don't really like WRPGs all that much either. I can't stand the generic fantasy worlds any longer. Stuff like Dragon Age and The Witcher hold mild appeal, for instance, but the gameplay systems aren't all that fun and the worlds just seem so dull to me. Furthermore, MMORPG style gameplay (both online and off) is extremely uninteresting to me.

At this point only action RPG-lite titles like Fallout 3 and Mass Effect really even do anything for me (I loved those games). The ONLY JRPG I enjoyed this generation was Lost Odyssey, oddly enough. Not necessarily a great game, but I had a good time with it.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 03, 2009, 03:36:54 PM: Quote from: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Good thing there's been a lot of really great WRPGs in the past few years.

There has?

Yep.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 03:38:51 PM: Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on December 03, 2009, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Good thing there's been a lot of really great WRPGs in the past few years.

There has?

Yep.

Not compared to the mid-late 90's though.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 03:43:32 PM: Quote from: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on December 03, 2009, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Good thing there's been a lot of really great WRPGs in the past few years.

There has?

Yep.

Not compared to the mid-late 90's though.

Maybe, maybe not. But there have been plenty of really good to great WRPGs with a decent range of settings. If they're not your thing, fine, but I've certainly been satisfied with what's been on offer. Much moreso than the JRPG scene of late.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:45:17 PM: In all honesty, though, the worst cutscenes are those late 90s/early 2000 PC game cutscenes. In general, almost everything that was being released was fill with garbage machinima style cutscenes. Really really bad stuff. I mean, you can all slam the kind of stuff in MGS4, but at least the camera work and animation are oustanding. Stuff like this, however, just looks awkward and unfinished. There were plenty of consoles games prior to this which showcased excellent animation in cutscenes. I'm sure the budgets are much lower here, but still.

Here's two of the worst (both from Raven)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl7yPbnBD6M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL1ljx4t1ps&feature=related
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 04:04:12 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 03:43:32 PM
Quote from: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on December 03, 2009, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Good thing there's been a lot of really great WRPGs in the past few years.

There has?

Yep.

Not compared to the mid-late 90's though.

Maybe, maybe not. But there have been plenty of really good to great WRPGs with a decent range of settings. If they're not your thing, fine, but I've certainly been satisfied with what's been on offer. Much moreso than the JRPG scene of late.

I'm perfectly satisfied with gaming on my DS, and playing through my PS2 backlog, though...
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 03, 2009, 04:07:56 PM: The problem with the Metal Gear Series for me isn't necessarily how over the top and silly it can get (Although the second one was some dumb ass bullshit that utterly destroys the game). I tend to enjoy that aspect of it rather than the dry boring tone Splinter Cell has adopted in the past. Metal Gear is like a comic book and I think that is a good and solid approach.

The problem is simply the length of the cutscenes, the poor editing, and the wanna be a film nature of those games. Cut the cutscene length in half and get to the fucking point and you would have a much better experience in those games.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 04:28:37 PM: Quote from: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Good thing there's been a lot of really great WRPGs in the past few years.

There has?

Dragon Age :rock
King's Bounty :rock
Fallout 3 :rock
Mass Effect :rock
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 03, 2009, 04:30:59 PM: Quote from: Himuro on December 03, 2009, 04:28:37 PM
Dragon Age :rock
King's Bounty :rock
Fallout 3 :rock
Mass Effect :rock

Dragon Age is a mixed bag when it comes to cutscenes. Some very good stuff. Some very weak stuff.
I haven't played King's Bounty.
There is a lot to love about Fallout 3 but none of it involves the cutscenes.

Mass Effect has legit good cutscenes and voice acting and stands way above the rest of that stuff. I wish I liked the actual game as much as the production work that was put into it.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 04:31:20 PM: Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:36:15 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Good thing there's been a lot of really great WRPGs in the past few years.
That would be great, but I don't really like WRPGs all that much either. I can't stand the generic fantasy worlds any longer. Stuff like Dragon Age and The Witcher hold mild appeal, for instance, but the gameplay systems aren't all that fun and the worlds just seem so dull to me. Furthermore, MMORPG style gameplay (both online and off) is extremely uninteresting to me.

At this point only action RPG-lite titles like Fallout 3 and Mass Effect really even do anything for me (I loved those games). The ONLY JRPG I enjoyed this generation was Lost Odyssey, oddly enough. Not necessarily a great game, but I had a good time with it.

Don't like Dragon Age gameplay? PC or console version?

Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 03, 2009, 04:30:59 PM
Quote from: Himuro on December 03, 2009, 04:28:37 PM
Dragon Age :rock
King's Bounty :rock
Fallout 3 :rock
Mass Effect :rock

Dragon Age is mixed bag when it comes to cutscenes.
I haven't played King's Bounty.
There is a lot to love about Fallout 3 but none of it involves the cutscenes.

Mass Effect has legit good cutscenes and voice acting and stands way above the rest of that stuff.

We're talking about the games themselves though. ???
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 03, 2009, 04:33:48 PM: Quote from: Himuro on December 03, 2009, 04:31:20 PM
We're talking about the games themselves though. ???

My bad then. I didn't read the post carefully and assumed it was about the cutscene quality.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 04:39:00 PM: Speaking of which...

[youtube=560,345]lYKCmB_vOyE[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]-U86f5nBD_0[/youtube]

:yuck
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: The Fake Shemp on December 03, 2009, 04:40:30 PM: Dragon Age is infinitely worse.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 04:42:27 PM: Quote from: Himuro on December 03, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
Speaking of which...

[youtube=560,345]lYKCmB_vOyE[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]-U86f5nBD_0[/youtube]

:yuck

At least those are completely optional scenes.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 03, 2009, 04:44:27 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2009, 04:42:27 PM
At least those are completely optional scenes.

There is plenty in the game that isn't optional that is also cringe worthy. There is also some awesome stuff. It's a very mixed bag.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2009, 07:27:19 PM: [youtube=560,345]nIP2xVjg-hc[/youtube]

skip to 2:22
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Kestastrophe on December 03, 2009, 07:34:17 PM: Quote from: Himuro on December 03, 2009, 03:07:04 PM
Make sure you have a loaded gun next to your controller, kestastrophe. You know, just in case. And don't play it in front of the wife. PLEASE don't.
I kid you not, my wife came home right before I met Drebin when the merc is shitting in the barrel. She just shook her head and said "that's lame" and I nodded in agreement :lol
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 07:59:23 PM: Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Yeah SO4 & DQIX killed my interest in jrpgs

Then Demon Souls, Blue Dragon DS & SMT SJ brought it back. They aren't traditional jrpgs but they're good and addicting. I dunno. Maybe Resonance of Fate will be a good traditional jrpg (outside of usual horrible tri-ace cutscenes).
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Bildi on December 03, 2009, 08:12:17 PM: Quote from: swaggaz on December 03, 2009, 07:27:19 PM
skip to 2:22

:rofl @ Bowser's expression.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/156tg6g.jpg)
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: demi on December 03, 2009, 08:18:04 PM: LMAO Morrigan riding cowgirl
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 03, 2009, 09:59:07 PM: They all suck. All cutscenes should be skipped. Better yet, eliminated outright.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 10:14:59 PM: Quote from: swaggaz on December 03, 2009, 12:35:31 PM
I replayed MGS2 before MGS4, and yeah, some of the cutscenes are pretty bad. Fortune is the absolute worst.

Olga's hairy armpits still rock, though.

Fuck yeah... I support hairy armpits on girls because that means they probably don't shave their cooter either :drool
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 10:32:59 PM: Quote from: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: swaggaz on December 03, 2009, 12:35:31 PM
I replayed MGS2 before MGS4, and yeah, some of the cutscenes are pretty bad. Fortune is the absolute worst.

Olga's hairy armpits still rock, though.

Fuck yeah... I support hairy armpits on girls because that means they probably don't shave their cooter either :drool

ewwwwwwwwww :yuck
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 10:43:18 PM: Quote from: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 10:32:59 PM
Quote from: tiesto on December 03, 2009, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: swaggaz on December 03, 2009, 12:35:31 PM
I replayed MGS2 before MGS4, and yeah, some of the cutscenes are pretty bad. Fortune is the absolute worst.

Olga's hairy armpits still rock, though.

Fuck yeah... I support hairy armpits on girls because that means they probably don't shave their cooter either :drool

ewwwwwwwwww :yuck

:lol
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 10:52:00 PM: Quote from: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 07:59:23 PM
Quote from: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
You know, it was also Star Ocean 4 that killed my interest in JRPGs. It was just so bad that I couldn't go back. After that, everything about anime and JRPGs just suddenly hit me and seemed terrible and ridiculous. Like, "how the hell did I ever enjoy this" kind of thing. It's kind of sad, I suppose. I just need something GOOD to wash the bad taste out of my mouth...

Yeah SO4 & DQIX killed my interest in jrpgs

Then Demon Souls, Blue Dragon DS & SMT SJ brought it back. They aren't traditional jrpgs but they're good and addicting. I dunno. Maybe Resonance of Fate will be a good traditional jrpg (outside of usual horrible tri-ace cutscenes).

What's wrong with DQ9? :(
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 11:05:32 PM: It's boring as shit. Duckroll didn't even finish it. He just got bored and gave up. I finished it. The game is zzzzz from start to finish.

The multiplayer and post-game is cool if you like that MMO style questing and grinding. I hate MMOs so I played a bit of the post-game and gave up when I had to grind a ton if I wanted to beat the next optional boss.

You don't even get the final vehicle
spoiler (click to show/hide)
flying
[close]
until you beat a post-game high level boss. That is the most bullshit thing ever. I almost felt as jipped as if they stuck it in DLC.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: dark1x on December 03, 2009, 11:10:22 PM: Oh yeah, Demon's Souls. Forgot about that. That IS a fantastic game. One of the best RPGs (RPG-lite, at least) I've played this gen. :-[
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 11:28:05 PM: And I should clarify that DQIX is not anywhere in the same level as SO4. SO4 is trash, DQIX is solid it's just the main SP storyline is very average and does nothing particularly interesting to make it stick out from any other rpg. Still it does being standard very well despite being kinda dull, so it's a 7-8/10ish compared to the lol/10 that SO4 is. I actually really enjoyed the opening story to DQIX (first 3 hours, maybe?) but then it never really went anywhere and the gameplay was uninteresting.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2009, 11:28:45 PM: Quote from: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 11:05:32 PM
It's boring as shit. Duckroll didn't even finish it. He just got bored and gave up. I finished it. The game is zzzzz from start to finish.

The multiplayer and post-game is cool if you like that MMO style questing and grinding. I hate MMOs so I played a bit of the post-game and gave up when I had to grind a ton if I wanted to beat the next optional boss.

You don't even get the final vehicle
spoiler (click to show/hide)
flying
[close]
until you beat a post-game high level boss. That is the most bullshit thing ever. I almost felt as jipped as if they stuck it in DLC.

...Are you serious. So this is the first bad DQ?
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 11:35:20 PM: If you're going to play it entirely SP and just do the main game (30 hours) then I would say yes out of the ones I have played (4/5/8/9). I love DQ4/5 and DQ8 was cool for the very impressive 3d world to explore and okish storyline. DQ9 is the only one I didn't care for.

I make the caveats because I know there are like dozens and dozens of post-game quests (they keep adding them as free DLC every week) with like EVERY DQ BOSS EVER (DQ1-8 + spinoffs) added as an optional DLC quest and guests cameos and all kinds of neat things. It's basically like an MMO that they keep adding to. Kinda like how White Knight Story is as well.

But all that requires getting strong enough to do post-game things and grinding between each jump in power between quests/bosses. And the post-game grind stuff isn't enjoyable to me.

I think duckroll liked/played through 4/5/(6?)/7/8 and this was the only one he didn't like to the point of not finishing out of boredom.

One thing that DQIX does well is the dungeons designs are great. Very fun dungeons.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: tiesto on December 04, 2009, 11:46:18 AM: I wonder how the DLC bosses will be handled in the US version... perhaps they'll all be present on the cartridge already? And I'm also hoping Nintendo lives up to their promises and markets the hell out of this game.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Bebpo on December 04, 2009, 12:08:21 PM: Quote from: tiesto on December 04, 2009, 11:46:18 AM
I wonder how the DLC bosses will be handled in the US version... perhaps they'll all be present on the cartridge already? And I'm also hoping Nintendo lives up to their promises and markets the hell out of this game.

How did they do it with Layton USA? That game also had weekly puzzle updates in Japan.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: magus on December 04, 2009, 12:22:44 PM: layton HAD already the puzzle in the game but you still had to connect to the internet to download the key to unlock them...
when i discovered this i tought "what's the reason?" and i can't help but think of it just as a somewhat cheap tactic to prevent people from selling the game as soon as they finish it
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: Bebpo on December 04, 2009, 02:21:37 PM: Yeah I don't disagree with Segata. There are a lot of people who enjoyed it and others who didn't. I just tend to be more vocal.

It's a competently made rpg with good graphics and sound. But here are my problems with the game:

1. It's subjective, but I didn't care for the story much. So I didn't have a drive to see what happens next.

2. The battle system is very standard and a little slow (faster than 8, much slower than the 2d ones). The one thing that makes DQIX's battle system unique is the job system. Unfortunately for me personally the game did not have a job system. The job system IIRC resets your character back to lvl.1, I changed job ONCE with one character midway through the game and it took him until the final boss to catch up to the other characters level-wise. Meanwhile for the entire 2nd half of the game he had a low HP, low DEF and low ATK until pretty far in, making him useless until the end. This means if you get to a boss that you are stuck against and you realize you have the wrong jobs for the boss, you can't just switch jobs like FFX-2 or 4WoL or switch demons in SMT to re-strategize. If you do that your characters will drop to lvl.1 and it'll take hours to grind them back up to the point where they even have enough HP & DEF to survive the boss's attack. So basically if you get stuck on a boss you can A. Grind or B. Change jobs and grind EVEN MORE, which kind of takes away any incentive to change jobs. So yeah, for me it was like the game had no job system and was just a by the books battle system that wasn't quick or had unique aspects.
*edit, also another negative against changing jobs was you don't keep most of your good skills/spells when you change. So it's not even like you can build up a cool character with all these skills/spells from various jobs.

3. There's not much of a world to explore. The main story leads your around from island to continent. But since you never get a flying vehicle your world exploration feels pretty limited. I don't remember finding any real meaty optional things in the main game.

3. You make all your party characters so they have no dialogue and they are not real characters. The only real character in the story is your lead + the NPCs. DQV was like this too, but there were other characters with your family. No cute monsters in your party either.

So yeah, without a story to drive me to play or a battle system that made me want to fight there just wasn't much motivation to keep playing other than just to get it done. The dungeons were fun to explore, but that was about it.

And yeah, after I beat the game I tried a bunch of times to beat the post-game boss to get the flying vehicle and read some strategies online and the consensus was that it was just impossible for my team because the boss's big attack would wipe out my whole party instantly. So the choice was to grind. Not just a level or two, but A LOT for several hours or more. I weighed the idea of using my time to grind and the result of getting a flying machine to fly around the world to get more quests and optional bosses where I would need to grind more...and I decided that I was finished with the game.

I don't care for Level-5 DQs much, but to my knowledge DQ8 is still the only jrpg ever to have a real 3d overworld like a wrpg but with jrpg map design. That was exciting enough to drive me through DQ8 to explore it all. DQ9 didn't really have anything to do the same.

I still look forward to DQ6r since I absolutely love non-L5 DQ.
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: demi on December 05, 2009, 11:02:07 AM: Damn DQ9 sounds like shit. DQ SWords > DQ9
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: demi on December 05, 2009, 11:17:26 AM: You're just saying that cause I got you it~ :heartbeat
Title: Re: ITT: we discuss the worst cutscenes we've ever seen in a game
Post by: chronovore on December 05, 2009, 11:22:25 AM: Quote from: Himuro on December 03, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
Speaking of which...

[youtube=560,345]lYKCmB_vOyE[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]-U86f5nBD_0[/youtube]

:yuck

The first one is cheesy and poorly-timed, but the Morrigan one is super creepy. I don't know if there's simply less expression on the characters' faces, or if it's the fact that they're just engaged in elf frottage since they're wearing underwear.