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Title: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on December 31, 2009, 07:18:43 PM: I figured we should let the community put this to rest once and for all, because there seems to be some confusion that the Wii is more than a party favor or glorified karaoke machine. I've never heard of real gamers using the system as their sole gaming platform, but rumors from across the Internet have reached my ears.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Third on December 31, 2009, 07:20:24 PM: Wii is the worst gaming system ever. This is not debatable- it's a fact.

But I'll always buy Nintendo's systems because of Zelda and Mario. :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 31, 2009, 07:20:35 PM: lol no, it doesn't
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: duckman2000 on December 31, 2009, 07:24:38 PM: Gamecube was at least decently powerful, so there were some decent ports available. Wii is shit, and it's all exclusive shit. Fuck Wii, for it sucks.

It has Super Mario Galaxy which is fucking awesome, and that's sort of ironic. And really fucking annoying, too.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on December 31, 2009, 07:25:59 PM: Quote from: Genghis Cohen on December 31, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
It's better than the Gamecube

:-\

I dunno. The Game Cube had titles like Resident Evil, Resident Evil 4, PN03, F-Zero GX, Super Monkey Ball, Beach Spikers, Viewtiful Joe, MGS TTS, etc., plus good third party support with games like Soul Calibur II, SSX3, and CvS2. And it could also play Gameboy games. The Cube also seems to have better image quality than the Wii does. :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: duckman2000 on December 31, 2009, 07:26:53 PM: This is true. And F-Zero GX was :omg
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 31, 2009, 07:27:04 PM: metroid trilogy, mario galaxy, and wii sports resort are good.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: duckman2000 on December 31, 2009, 07:29:13 PM: The new Metroid licks ass. So you're then basically saying that two out of the four decent games are Gamecube ports? I guess that's fair.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on December 31, 2009, 07:31:08 PM: I refuse to believe anyone who considers themselves "a gamer," "hardcore," or whatever term you wish to use for "nerd who plays with too many electronic toys" actually uses the Wii as their only gaming system. It's something only a joke character would say.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 31, 2009, 07:31:28 PM: i havent even gotten past the first metroid prime. so i dunno about the quality of the other two yet.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 07:35:24 PM: It's arguably the best home console system this generation, and only the second overall behind the DS.

What you HD fanboys can't seem to grasp is that no one outside of the universally ignored basement-dwelling community of gamers gives a kung-fu flying shit about your taste in games. If they did, HD console sales would actually reflect that and high impact "next-gen" games like FF13 wouldn't be selling on pace to match Square-Enix's shameless cash-in, FFX-2, in Japan.

The Wii is the system to own this generation. The games prove that and the numbers prove it. You don't like it? Then take your jilted asses to Gamestop and go fetch yourselves a copy of Darksiders, Demon Souls, or whatever the fuck it is you eye-candy zombies like to play -- trust me, there are PLENTY of copies of those games collecting dust on shelves. ;)
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 31, 2009, 07:39:05 PM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 07:35:24 PM
The Wii is the system to own this generation. The games prove that and the numbers prove it.

(http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/funny-dog-pictures-using-word.jpg)

I decided to use a picture of a dog instead of Inigo Montoya in the hope that I might be able to actually communicate with someone whose brain has been addled by Nintendo Dogs. I know, I know. But we have to at least TRY to reason with it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 31, 2009, 07:39:42 PM: it's a toy
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on December 31, 2009, 07:40:20 PM: Quote from: dcharlie on December 31, 2009, 07:32:12 PM
i was excited for a while when i hacked my JPN unit, but after about 2 days i was left bored again.

I just don't have any compelling reason to switch the thing on.

Every now and then something will come out that I'll play for a bit, then inevitably the system goes back to collecting dust again. It's not like I have a small library of titles, either.

Normally I might write a bigger response, but Nintendosbooger is a poor attempt at a joke account, and one that doesn't work here. He doesn't get the Bore. His posts are already stale and boring.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: duckman2000 on December 31, 2009, 07:41:29 PM: It's a damned shame the things are so easy to come by. For a while there, it was entirely possible to make a small profit off of buying one, keeping it to play the annual decent game that the shit system gets, and then selling the rotten thing. Bummer, because Mario Galaxy will probably be pretty alright. No fucking way I'm buying this miserable piece of shit system again without the promise of losing nothing.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 31, 2009, 07:41:37 PM: I've been having trouble hacking me Wii. I got the HBC installed but when i try to to install cios38 rev14, i get nothing but errors. dunno what i have to do.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 31, 2009, 07:46:04 PM: Quote from: duckman2000 on December 31, 2009, 07:41:29 PM
It's a damned shame the things are so easy to come by. For a while there, it was entirely possible to make a small profit off of buying one, keeping it to play the annual decent game that the shit system gets, and then selling the rotten thing. Bummer, because Mario Galaxy will probably be pretty alright. No fucking way I'm buying this miserable piece of shit system again without the promise of losing nothing.

That's EXACTLY what I did when Fire Emblem came out for the Wii. Bought one used off of Craigslist and sold it for $20 more than I paid for it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: duckman2000 on December 31, 2009, 07:49:40 PM: :bow Graphics :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 07:52:06 PM: As much as the HD systems I guess since they are jealous of the marketshare it has and eager to try to copy it with Natal and Project Disco Ball.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Moran on December 31, 2009, 07:53:03 PM: Used to be an Ntard until I owned a Wii for 2 years, sold it and bought a 360 :rock

Shame I'll miss out on Galaxy 2 though.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Beezy on December 31, 2009, 07:58:55 PM: Quote from: Genghis Cohen on December 31, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
It's better than the Gamecube

:-\
Your worst post ever. Monster Hunter has clouded your judgment.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 31, 2009, 08:05:24 PM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on December 31, 2009, 07:41:37 PM
I've been having trouble hacking me Wii. I got the HBC installed but when i try to to install cios38 rev14, i get nothing but errors. dunno what i have to do.

Gbatemp has the best guides. Some errors aren't anything and you just have to keep trying until it goes through
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: magus on December 31, 2009, 08:28:25 PM: i wanted to make a list of game i enjoyed on the wii but then i feel like i would be on the wrong side of the thread and i don't want that...

what do i have to do bore? :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 31, 2009, 08:38:38 PM: because carrying a little purple lunchbox took you back to your days in an all girl's school
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Bebpo on December 31, 2009, 08:47:49 PM: I actually like my Wii when I stop trolling it and play the good games on the system (there are like...10).

Sad but true :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on December 31, 2009, 08:48:28 PM: The Wii has games ???
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Oblivion on December 31, 2009, 08:51:10 PM: Wii is pretty shitty, both in the tech department and library front, but I'd still take SMG over the entire GC catalogue, minus probably RE4.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 09:02:54 PM: That's what's wrong with this forum. Most of the loud mouths here possess comparable gaming tastes and opinions of what constitutes quality gaming, resulting in the absence argumentative discussion that serves to fuel forum activity.

If you people didn't succumb to the godawful pack mentality that seems prevalent in this community, this forum might actually be a lot more active than it is right now.

Troll forums actually have a low ceiling in terms of potential growth, and while it's commendable that this community is moderated lightly, you banned-from-NPD-threads rejects need to quit sucking each other's dicks and stroking each other's egos at the expense of honest and contentious discussion.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Third on December 31, 2009, 09:04:08 PM: :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Rman on December 31, 2009, 09:06:38 PM: It's been this way since the N64 with Nintendo's consoles. No one should be surprised. I keep biting because I need my Mario and Zelda fix. Cohen's right about the Gamecube. Nintendo's first party output was very lackluster in the Gamecube era--Sunshine was garbage and Celda, while visually interesting fell apart at the end. Capcom saved the Gamecube from total irrelevance. The PS2 obliterated that system. Heck, even the Xbox brought more to table--XBL, The Halos, superior 3rd party ports, Ninja Gaiden, etc.

I've actually been surprised with the Wii, so far, from a 1st party perspective--both Mario games have been fun. Zelda was decent, although tired by now, and Punch Out has been surprising. The Wii line games hold no interest to me, however, but I know they're not targeted for me anyway. And the Virtual Console has been great as well.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 31, 2009, 09:13:53 PM: but what if we don't want to quit sucking each other's dicks

feels good man
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: duckman2000 on December 31, 2009, 09:15:25 PM: Dude reminds me of "Aphextwin2" from the IGN boards.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 09:02:54 PM
If you people didn't succumb to the godawful pack mentality that seems prevalent in this community, this forum might actually be a lot more active than it is right now.

And this would be desirable? Now for the record, I'm at odds with plenty of people here, and we still get along. Mostly.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 09:18:56 PM: Quote from: duckman2000 on December 31, 2009, 09:15:25 PM
And this would be desirable? Now for the record, I'm at odds with plenty of people here, and we still get along. Mostly.
This.

Wii trolling is popular among a certain group over here. Not that everybody feels that way. I don't for instance. (I'm not a fan of the Wii but for different reasons than most people) The thing about the bore is not that you don't have factions or trolling. It's that the trolling is generally seen as what it is. People voicing an opinion or blowing off steam and not the word of god and if you voice a different opinion you won't have a mod threatening you with a ban out of hypocrisy or just anger.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 31, 2009, 09:21:25 PM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 07:35:24 PM
It's arguably the best home console system this generation, and only the second overall behind the DS.

What you HD fanboys can't seem to grasp is that no one outside of the universally ignored basement-dwelling community of gamers gives a kung-fu flying shit about your taste in games. If they did, HD console sales would actually reflect that and high impact "next-gen" games like FF13 wouldn't be selling on pace to match Square-Enix's shameless cash-in, FFX-2, in Japan.

The Wii is the system to own this generation. The games prove that and the numbers prove it. You don't like it? Then take your jilted asses to Gamestop and go fetch yourselves a copy of Darksiders, Demon Souls, or whatever the fuck it is you eye-candy zombies like to play -- trust me, there are PLENTY of copies of those games collecting dust on shelves. ;)

Oh no you di it
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Third on December 31, 2009, 09:22:00 PM: It's not as if this forum is the only forum out there where the Wii gets shit on.
Wii gets shit on in all gaming forums across the world. Pretty understandable considering the Wii is the worst gaming system in a long time, maybe ever.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Bebpo on December 31, 2009, 09:23:38 PM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 09:02:54 PM
That's what's wrong with this forum. Most of the loud mouths here possess comparable gaming tastes and opinions of what constitutes quality gaming, resulting in the absence argumentative discussion that serves to fuel forum activity.

If you people didn't succumb to the godawful pack mentality that seems prevalent in this community, this forum might actually be a lot more active than it is right now.

Troll forums actually have a low ceiling in terms of potential growth, and while it's commendable that this community is moderated lightly, you banned-from-NPD-threads rejects need to quit sucking each other's dicks and stroking each other's egos at the expense of honest and contentious discussion.

I don't think you've seen the FFXIII thread
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on December 31, 2009, 09:26:06 PM: There's a FFXIII ???
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: drew on December 31, 2009, 09:27:35 PM: yeah eb has lots of members that werent gaf members before joining, gaffags cant seem to comprehend this for some reason, and this isnt really a forum suited for serious discussion, if you cant have fun, which i doubt you know how to do online and especially irl going by how you talk, and you dont like the people here, you should probably just leave
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: duckman2000 on December 31, 2009, 09:29:09 PM: Getting a bit JustinP in here
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 31, 2009, 09:32:34 PM: Game Cube was much better than the Wii because third parties would occasionally put in the effort. Sure, they all wound up getting ported to the PS2 but they were originally intended for the NGC.

The Wii is not for us. Nintendo effectively gave all of their past fans the finger. Nintards will clap their hands and wave spastically at the TV but Nintendo no longer needs their old fans. The old fans held Nintendo back because they just wound up going to the PS2 anyway. Soccer moms and grandmas are untapped cash reserves that are netting Nintendo billions of dollars in profit. Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about you and what you play, if there are three old decrepit fucks who will buy the latest Wii Sports for every one butthurt gamer they lose, Nintendo won't care. Which explains why there is barely any shit worth playing, despite having overwhelming dominance over the 360 and PS3 sales wise. We're barely blips on their radar, which is why they thought that we were getting treated by having a new Animal Crossing at E3 2008.

I do think the Wii is the worst top selling system of all time. Its library resembles something you'd see on failed systems like the 3DO, the Pippin, or WonderSwan Color. It has the shovelware of a top selling system without the classics that accompany it. Developers know, given sales of games like Dead Space, that it is more financially lucrative to make a mini game collection than anything else. Which is why we see more Ubi Petz and Jillian Michael's Fitness rather than Dead Space Extractions.

That said, I think Galaxy will be my favorite game of the generation. So for that game alone, to answer the question, I say yes. I kind of think this generation is kind of a wash but SMG is one of the few games that made me excited to play video games, at least for the month it took me to play and beat the game twice.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 09:32:45 PM: I'm not a Wii fan for specific reasons.

And it's not.

A.) The graphics. Because if you've reached the point where graphics are your main concern in games, you're truly lost.
B.) Motion control as a concept. Because I expressesly bought the system for motion control.
C.) Lack of third party games. If you buy a Nintendo system in this day and age and expect third party support, you're an idiot.
D.) Not enough hardcore games. There is a 360, PS3, and PC on the market. If you bought a Wii expecting hardcore games you're an idiot.

I have issues with the Wii because.
A.) It should have shipped with Motion Plus. The original control method while interesting was pretty limited unfortunately and it's too late to get everybody aboard the Motion Plus.
B.) Their online feautures and game support suck Donkey Balls. This is 2010 now. I'm an online gamer. Any console that doesn't heavily support this stuff loses my support.
C.) I've reached a point where as much as I enjoy Zelda, and Mario Kart games, there is a sameness that is starting to seep in with their core franchises. A lot of it seems to be trading on nostalgia as I replay the same games over and over.
D.) My core tastes have changed and evolved. As much as I love and respect Nintendo my world view has expanded a bit beyond their offerings and with limited time and resources I find myself more interested in gaming on the PC and HD systems.

Some one else obviously is entitled to feel a completely different way and logically support their thoughts. I totally understand how somebody could enjoy being a Wii gamer. That simply isn't me however. It's all opinions. If somebody loves the Wii or the 360, or the PC, or Ps3 and somebody trolls that system it says more about them and it's simply an opinion. Troll em back I say. None of these opinions matter. It's just nerds passing time on a messageboard. Never take it anymore seriously than that.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 31, 2009, 09:41:17 PM: Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 09:32:45 PM
It's just nerds passing time on a messageboard. Never take it anymore seriously than that.

Really? I'm shocked!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 09:44:33 PM: Quote from: T EXP on December 31, 2009, 09:41:17 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 09:32:45 PM
It's just nerds passing time on a messageboard. Never take it anymore seriously than that.

Really? I'm shocked!
Oddly enough I think we often lose sight of that myself included. This goes for all messageboards and forums specifically and the internet in general. Never take it so seriously that you end up rage posting. Much better to mock post. :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 31, 2009, 09:47:02 PM: Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 09:44:33 PM
Quote from: T EXP on December 31, 2009, 09:41:17 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 09:32:45 PM
It's just nerds passing time on a messageboard. Never take it anymore seriously than that.

Really? I'm shocked!
Oddly enough I think we often lose sight of that myself included. This goes for all messageboards and forums specifically and the internet in general. Never take it so seriously that you end up rage posting. Much better to mock post. :smug

I just thought that it seemed obvious because most of the people mocking the Wii in this thread and on EB in general have either purchased or will purchase numerous Wii systems. I know I'll be getting my second Wii when Galaxy 2 comes out, for instance.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 09:59:31 PM: Quote from: drew on December 31, 2009, 09:27:35 PM
yeah eb has lots of members that werent gaf members before joining, gaffags cant seem to comprehend this for some reason, and this isnt really a forum suited for serious discussion, if you cant have fun, which i doubt you know how to do online and especially irl going by how you talk, and you dont like the people here, you should probably just leave

I'm not going anywhere so feel free to lick my balls and then dry them with a print-out of your psychological assessment before stuffing it into your mouth.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 31, 2009, 10:17:02 PM: hahaha
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: drew on December 31, 2009, 10:21:25 PM: Quote from: T EXP on December 31, 2009, 09:41:17 PM
It's just nerds passing time on a messageboard. Never take it anymore seriously than that.

speak for yourself :smug

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 09:59:31 PM
I'm not going anywhere so feel free to lick my balls and then dry them with a print-out of your psychological assessment before stuffing it into your mouth.

NOW youre getting it, lets fuck :hump
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 31, 2009, 10:23:06 PM: on the subject of waggle:

rumor going around (according to David Ellis) is that Natal is getting shit stripped out of it to bring the price down as low as possible, which would mean all the processing would have to come from the 360, which would cause a lot of devs to lose whatever interest they have in it, which would mean a lot of straight-up wii ports, which would mean me leaving it on the shelf because i already have a wii
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 31, 2009, 10:23:24 PM: Quote from: Good Day Sir on December 31, 2009, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Genghis Cohen on December 31, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
It's better than the Gamecube

:-\

I dunno. The Game Cube had titles like Resident Evil, Resident Evil 4, PN03, F-Zero GX, Super Monkey Ball, Beach Spikers, Viewtiful Joe, MGS TTS, etc., plus good third party support with games like Soul Calibur II, SSX3, and CvS2. And it could also play Gameboy games. The Cube also seems to have better image quality than the Wii does. :lol

I was about to post this. I've had lots of fun with Wii Sports/Resort but it's basically like a karaoke machine. I could pick up RE4/Viewtiful Joe/SCII today and still have some fun.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 31, 2009, 11:24:03 PM: or you could pick up dead space/bayonetta/sc4 and have next-gen fun
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on December 31, 2009, 11:40:43 PM: Real talk: I own 30 Wii (disc) games. I think around nine of those I bought this past year alone. I have yet to fully complete any of them, because I always end up going back to the 360 and PS3. The controls are better, there's online play for more than three games (and it doesn't suck), and most importantly, there's just better games available. I've been too busy with titles like Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil 5, Halo 3, Modern Warfare 2, Uncharted 2, Tekken 6, BlazBlue, and Bayonetta among others to bother with the Wii. What are the equivalent titles to those on Wii? The only online "fighters" are Smash Bros. and DBZ TB3, and the online stinks. FPS games...the Conduit? LOL. CoD4? OH BOY A STRIPPED-DOWN PORT OF A TWO YEAR OLD GAME! Awesome. I agree that the Wii is the gaming equivalent of a karaoke machine. The most fun I get with it is playing the occasional party game with people who don't or rarely play video games.

Nintendo has published some good games, but third party barely feels like a blip on the radar. And the controls are an issue. I love Tenchu 4. LOVE IT. But it plays like a complete mess on the Wii compared to its PSP counterpart. Waggle sucks.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 09:02:54 PM
That's what's wrong with this forum. Most of the loud mouths here possess comparable gaming tastes and opinions of what constitutes quality gaming, resulting in the absence argumentative discussion that serves to fuel forum activity.

If you people didn't succumb to the godawful pack mentality that seems prevalent in this community, this forum might actually be a lot more active than it is right now.

Troll forums actually have a low ceiling in terms of potential growth, and while it's commendable that this community is moderated lightly, you banned-from-NPD-threads rejects need to quit sucking each other's dicks and stroking each other's egos at the expense of honest and contentious discussion.

You haven't been here long enough to have any idea about everyone's tastes. You just don't get this place; it's not NeoGAF as already pointed out.

A pretty high number of members here also own all of the systems. We don't give a fuck about system wars, sales-age, or any of that garbage. People are just having fun with the posts you're making. If you're actually serious about what you're talking about, that just turns the hilarity up several more notches. :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 11:52:11 PM: I don't care what your gripe with the system is. The blockbuster first-party games on the Wii more than make up for its alleged third party software deficiency. Can we expect third party games on the Wii to be as good as Nintendo's? Of course not. No one can beat Nintendo at this game. No one. But do I feel that the third party games adequately supplement the Wii's enormously successful first party library, to combine for a complete and unforgettable gaming experience? Absolutely. While I'm waiting for Galaxy 2 to come out, I've been playing Silent Hill: SM, Muramasa, and others. Great games that will warm me up for an even greater game.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 31, 2009, 11:55:22 PM: i have played both shattered memories and muramasa and any praise for them shows just how low the bar is for wii-exclusive fans
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Flannel Boy on December 31, 2009, 11:58:06 PM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 11:52:11 PM
Can we expect third party games on the Wii to be as good as Nintendo's? Of course not. No one can beat Nintendo at this game. No one.

Good old Nintendo loyalty.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 31, 2009, 11:58:31 PM: how does a real wii fan list total pap and skip the two GREAT third-party exclusives: geometry wars galaxies and hotd overkill
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: demi on January 01, 2010, 12:03:12 AM: Hey man I've posted plenty of awesome wii reviews. Wii gets lots of love around here.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 12:06:33 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on December 31, 2009, 11:55:22 PM
i have played both shattered memories and muramasa and any praise for them shows just how low the bar is for wii-exclusive fans

Drinky, your taste is shit and has, for as long as I can remember, always been shit. HotD Overkill is a bugfest and if you want your Wii locking up, I would recommend it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2010, 12:08:06 AM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 12:06:33 AM
Quote from: Professor Prole on December 31, 2009, 11:55:22 PM
i have played both shattered memories and muramasa and any praise for them shows just how low the bar is for wii-exclusive fans

Drinky, your taste is shit and has, for as long as I can remember, always been shit.
I agree:
http://www.gaming-age.com/reviews/archive/old_reviews/ga2/n64/zelda.shtml (http://www.gaming-age.com/reviews/archive/old_reviews/ga2/n64/zelda.shtml)
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 12:08:20 AM: my wii will lock up for countless other reasons such as poor gpu heat dissipation, which you'd know if you'd actually played it for more than ten minutes a pop!

which did you like better: shattered memories sloppy nightmare sequences, or muramasa's endless, encounter-free backtracking? shattered memories' poor waggle detection, or muramasa's grade-three difficulty?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: demi on January 01, 2010, 12:09:20 AM: My library of reviews

> The Conduit http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=30969.0
> Boy And his Blob http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32188.0
> Cursed Mountain http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=31658.0
> MadWorld http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=29620.0
> Deadly Creatures http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=28629.0
> LIT http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=28520.0
> Castlevania Judgment & StarTropics 2 http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=28001.0
> Miscellaneous Reviews http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=15618.0
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 12:12:27 AM: Quote from: Harry Lime on January 01, 2010, 12:08:06 AM

I agree:
http://www.gaming-age.com/reviews/archive/old_reviews/ga2/n64/zelda.shtml (http://www.gaming-age.com/reviews/archive/old_reviews/ga2/n64/zelda.shtml)

i mistakenly gave oot the score i MEANT to give twilight princess (gc) :-[
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2010, 12:14:10 AM: I ordered Uncharted 2 because of your recommendation. Let's hope your taste has improved.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: cool breeze on January 01, 2010, 12:15:26 AM: A brief history of my time with the wii: played a bunch at friends houses, got party games for it, had a blast doing all that. Mario Galaxy came out and was enchanting. Super hyped for Smash Brawl because Melee on Gamecube was fun with friends. Brawl was released, no one cared, Melee was more fun and that sorta killed the wii as a social thing for me. Since then I went through phases where I was hoping there was still something to play, wanting to check out any notable release, annoyed that there was literally nothing for it. Skip a head to now where I've come to peace with it. I'm not playing it much but I'm also not going to sell it. It will sit there, waiting, until a rare good game comes out. C/D-tier games like Silent Hill and Muramasa are getting skipped until they're really cheap. It's not just the Wii either since I have very little expectations for the Nintendo in general; the DS just had the advantage of good third party support.

Quote from: Harry Lime on January 01, 2010, 12:14:10 AM
I ordered Uncharted 2 because of your recommendation. Let's hope your taste has improved.

Uncharted 2 has a poorly-developed cinematic quality that overwhelms rather than enhances the whole game experience.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 12:21:06 AM: uncharted 2 is sooo fuckin pretty, though! tvc isn't as thrilled with it, though, so you may wanna second-guess me, here. :-(
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 12:27:53 AM: yeah, once you pass the stupid heist prologue bit, it has some freakin' miraculous pacing
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Purple Filth on January 01, 2010, 12:29:56 AM: Wii as only 3 games i would pirate for it.

thats really fucking bad for supposedly "the best system evar" :'(

hell i find more games to play on a fucking PS3 and that thing is said to have no games for years.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 01, 2010, 12:30:54 AM: my favorite bit was jumping from truck to truck and :punch :punch :punch dudes out left and right

imma buy that game when it achieves equilibrium with my cheaposity
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: demi on January 01, 2010, 12:32:32 AM: Quote from: Purple Filth on January 01, 2010, 12:29:56 AM
Wii as only 3 games i would pirate for it.

thats really fucking bad for supposedly "the best system evar" :'(

Dont sell it short man. I thought I wouldnt come up with much and I wound up with around 40. Deleted the ones I beat, and the ones that were trash (Silent Hill got the boot immediately) and I'm still at a healthy 32.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: cool breeze on January 01, 2010, 12:32:56 AM: yeah, the truck sequence was incredible. i was thinking about it earlier today for some reason and was planning to look up which chapter it was in and replay it, then i forgot.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 12:34:25 AM: Quote from: demi on January 01, 2010, 12:09:20 AM
My library of reviews

> The Conduit http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=30969.0
> Boy And his Blob http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32188.0
> Cursed Mountain http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=31658.0
> MadWorld http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=29620.0
> Deadly Creatures http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=28629.0
> LIT http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=28520.0
> Castlevania Judgment & StarTropics 2 http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=28001.0
> Miscellaneous Reviews http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=15618.0

Do you deliberately play Wii games just to shit on them afterwards? For the exception of LIT, none of those reviews seemed favorable and the fact that you haven't posted more impressions of Wii's better titles leads me to suspect the presence of an anti-Wii agenda.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 12:35:20 AM: Quote from: The Fake Shemp on December 31, 2009, 09:26:06 PM
There's a FFXIII ???

I heard that Crystal Bearers for Wii is great! The characters are so funny. When the cows started chasing the hero in the trailer I laughed so hard and called my mom into the room to watch it too!!

Better than XIII? Maybe, if FUN is your thing!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: demi on January 01, 2010, 12:36:07 AM: What? That's nonsense. Are you claiming all negative reviews/impressions are of an anti-agenda? Certainly all those articles from "paid" reviewers are of anti-agenda then?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 12:37:18 AM: i own and recommend:

super mario galaxy
new super mario bros wii (with reservations)
geometry wars galaxies (shits on the 360 ones)
hotd: overkill
resident evil 4 wii

i have heard super good things about dead space extraction from gentleman gamers and if i get any gift certs soon i will be picking it up

games i own and will trade in soon on account of fail:

muramasa: the demon blade
phantom brave remix
madworld
fire emblem: radiant dawn
tales of symphonia 2
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 01, 2010, 12:38:26 AM: Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: The Fake Shemp on December 31, 2009, 09:26:06 PM
There's a FFXIII ???

I heard that Crystal Bearers for Wii is great! The characters are so funny. When the cows started chasing the hero in the trailer I laughed so hard and called my mom into the room to watch it too!!

Better than XIII? Maybe, if FUN is your thing!

Yeah, maybe if Prole and demi included FUN ratings in their reviews, they've have a higher ratio of positive Wii experiences. The Wii practically emits fun!*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
* At the cost of polygons, textures, image quality and fundamental game design.
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 12:39:58 AM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 11:52:11 PM
I don't care what your gripe with the system is.

I don't have any gripes with the system. I guess the Wii fans = illiterate stereotype is true!

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The blockbuster first-party games on the Wii more than make up for its alleged third party software deficiency.

:teehee

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Can we expect third party games on the Wii to be as good as Nintendo's? Of course not. No one can beat Nintendo at this game. No one.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3387/3524147233_61cfce0df7.jpg)

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But do I feel that the third party games adequately supplement the Wii's enormously successful first party library, to combine for a complete and unforgettable gaming experience? Absolutely.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2775/4035444614_ccb275d2b0.jpg)

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While I'm waiting for Galaxy 2 to come out, I've been playing Silent Hill: SM, Muramasa, and others. Great games that will warm me up for an even greater game.
Quote from: Professor Prole on December 31, 2009, 11:55:22 PM
i have played both shattered memories and muramasa and any praise for them shows just how low the bar is for wii-exclusive fans

Pretty much. Well, Muramasa has some purty graphics. Got to give it that much! I love the artwork. The game is incredibly mediocre though. I beat it with Kisuke and don't know if I will ever replay it again with Momohime.

I'm gonna have to get HoTD Overkill.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: demi on January 01, 2010, 12:40:57 AM: Quote from: The Fake Shemp on January 01, 2010, 12:38:26 AM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: The Fake Shemp on December 31, 2009, 09:26:06 PM
There's a FFXIII ???

I heard that Crystal Bearers for Wii is great! The characters are so funny. When the cows started chasing the hero in the trailer I laughed so hard and called my mom into the room to watch it too!!

Better than XIII? Maybe, if FUN is your thing!

Yeah, maybe if Prole and demi included FUN ratings in their reviews, they've have a higher ratio of positive Wii experiences. The Wii practically emits fun!*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
* At the cost of polygons, textures, image quality and fundamental game design.
[close]

We went over the fun* factor back in 2007

> http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=12885.0
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: drew on January 01, 2010, 12:41:30 AM: HEY NINTENDOSBOOGER DO YOU OWN AN HDTV?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 12:41:49 AM: Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: The Fake Shemp on December 31, 2009, 09:26:06 PM
There's a FFXIII ???

I heard that Crystal Bearers for Wii is great! The characters are so funny. When the cows started chasing the hero in the trailer I laughed so hard and called my mom into the room to watch it too!!

Better than XIII? Maybe, if FUN is your thing!

i think little king's story is amazing because the townspeople do some pretty wacky stuff if you watch them. like when the knight gets knocked over by a boar, his eyes become these silly spirals and a sweat bead drips down his head. it's like those old warner brothers cartoons -- an instant classic. i can tell you that the family and i love to gather 'round the teevee and just watch some the crazy antics emerge from the gameplay. you really don't see that sort of thing on those dry, mature-in-quotes HD systems!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 01, 2010, 12:46:00 AM: I think the Wii is a good litmus test for weeding out the faux-gamers from the real gamers. If it's your only source of gaming, then you probably hate the hobby entirely. I also think that the hardcore brave enough to purchase a Wii should not be chastised or pitied, but applauded for their bravery.

I mean, how many brave souls would sink down to such a primitive, non-existent level of gaming if only to scour but a few scant instances of actual gameplay amongst the Wii's massive catalog of shovelware? They are doing us a service; playing through the garbage so we don't have to.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 12:47:14 AM: I know I made at least TWO threads this year about Wii games. That's got to be some kind of record! :o
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 12:48:12 AM: Quote from: demi on January 01, 2010, 12:36:07 AM
What? That's nonsense. Are you claiming all negative reviews/impressions are of an anti-agenda? Certainly all those articles from "paid" reviewers are of anti-agenda then?

I just find it a tad suspicious that you would showcase only those reviews that could act as a case against the Wii and serve to strengthen the erroneous impression that the Wii lacks plentiful good games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 01, 2010, 12:48:29 AM: Quote from: Good Day Sir on January 01, 2010, 12:47:14 AM
I know I made at least TWO threads this year about Wii games. That's got to be some kind of record! :o

Thank you sir for your service to our country :american
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 12:48:58 AM: Nintendosbooger, answer drew's question.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: demi on January 01, 2010, 12:49:21 AM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 12:48:12 AM
Quote from: demi on January 01, 2010, 12:36:07 AM
What? That's nonsense. Are you claiming all negative reviews/impressions are of an anti-agenda? Certainly all those articles from "paid" reviewers are of anti-agenda then?

I just find it a tad suspicious that you would showcase only those reviews that could act as a case against the Wii and serves to strengthen the erroneous impression that the Wii lacks plentiful good games.

Did you read my MadWorld review? I clearly make the argument that there is in fact a better game to be played.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 01, 2010, 12:49:36 AM: I think it should be evident by now that he doesn't own a HDTV, probably because standard definition is just that much more fun.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: cool breeze on January 01, 2010, 12:50:32 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on January 01, 2010, 12:41:49 AM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: The Fake Shemp on December 31, 2009, 09:26:06 PM
There's a FFXIII ???

I heard that Crystal Bearers for Wii is great! The characters are so funny. When the cows started chasing the hero in the trailer I laughed so hard and called my mom into the room to watch it too!!

Better than XIII? Maybe, if FUN is your thing!

i hear little king's story is amazing because the townspeople do some pretty wacky stuff if you watch them. like when the knight gets knocked over by a boar, his eyes become these silly spirals and a sweat bead drips down his head. it's like those old warner brothers cartoons -- an instant classic. i can tell you that the family and i love to gather 'round the teevee and just watch some the crazy antics emerge from the gameplay. you really don't see that sort of thing on those dry, mature-in-quotes HD systems!

I don't know about all that shit, but it plays like Pikmin mixed with city builder game. Wii 2009 GOTY
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 12:50:36 AM: i wish i had read demi's madworld review before i went out and spent $8.41 on it :'(

:bow demi, the consumer reports of gaming :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 12:52:26 AM: Quote from: The Fake Shemp on January 01, 2010, 12:49:36 AM
I think it should be evident by now that he doesn't own a HDTV, probably because standard definition is just that much more fun.

I remember when I was 10 and everyone would champion whatever mommy and daddy bought for them because that's all they had, and so everything else just had to suck. Ask your parents for a 360 or PS3 for next Xmas, Nintendosbooger! :hyper

:usavich
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: demi on January 01, 2010, 12:55:46 AM: Now that Nintendo has adopted a Blue Ocean strategy, the only option is to build a ship.

The U.S.S. USB Loader sails the seven seas in search of that legendary good wii game.

I am hoping to make it one day. We make many stops to many islands, but none have given me the hint that my journey will come to a close.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: drew on January 01, 2010, 12:55:51 AM: wow even 99 pt type cant get nintendosbooger to own up to whether or not he owns an hdtv, i think its more than safe to assume no at this point
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 01:02:06 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on January 01, 2010, 12:41:49 AM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: The Fake Shemp on December 31, 2009, 09:26:06 PM
There's a FFXIII ???

I heard that Crystal Bearers for Wii is great! The characters are so funny. When the cows started chasing the hero in the trailer I laughed so hard and called my mom into the room to watch it too!!

Better than XIII? Maybe, if FUN is your thing!

i think little king's story is amazing because the townspeople do some pretty wacky stuff if you watch them. like when the knight gets knocked over by a boar, his eyes become these silly spirals and a sweat bead drips down his head. it's like those old warner brothers cartoons -- an instant classic. i can tell you that the family and i love to gather 'round the teevee and just watch some the crazy antics emerge from the gameplay. you really don't see that sort of thing on those dry, mature-in-quotes HD systems!

It's true. With systems like the Wii you have to let your brain fill in the blanks. In a way it's up to the player's creativity to make the most of the game. You never saw people saying "Warner Brothers cartoons are awful because they are so crude!" Outstanding point Prole.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 01:05:57 AM: Why would I need a new TV? Outside of using the Wii and watching my 'Skins get pummeled, I have no reason to bother with it. Maybe when the price of the HD consoles plummet to a more reasonable price (<150), I'll get one of them along with a new set.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: pilonv1 on January 01, 2010, 01:08:12 AM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 01:05:57 AM
Why would I need a new TV? Outside of using the Wii and watching my 'Skins get pummeled, I have no reason to bother with it. Maybe when the price of the HD consoles plummet to a more reasonable price (<150), I'll get one of them along with a new set.

Well there's nothing in this post I didn't expect.

Wii owner and a Redskins fan. Perfect match for those who hate themselves
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: drew on January 01, 2010, 01:12:05 AM: so, what youre saying is, you wouldnt know the benefits of owning an hdtv, of which there are many, because it is fucking awesome, from first hand experience, and therefore shouldnt really be using the term hd bots and treating it like a non issue (it is one), because it makes you look like a dolt?

i got a 32 inch vizio for $350, which is the perfect size for playing from your bed, thats not a high price when it comes to buying a new tv, even if you were in the 90s buying an sd set, the price would have been the same
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: demi on January 01, 2010, 01:13:12 AM: Quote from: pilonv1 on January 01, 2010, 01:08:12 AM
Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 01:05:57 AM
Why would I need a new TV? Outside of using the Wii and watching my 'Skins get pummeled, I have no reason to bother with it. Maybe when the price of the HD consoles plummet to a more reasonable price (<150), I'll get one of them along with a new set.

Well there's nothing in this post I didn't expect.

Wii owner and a Redskins fan. Perfect match for those who hate themselves

Poor Willco :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 01:17:12 AM: Quote from: drew on January 01, 2010, 01:12:05 AM
so, what youre saying is, you wouldnt know the benefits of owning an hdtv, of which there are many, because it is fucking awesome, from first hand experience, and therefore shouldnt really be using the term hd bots and treating it like a non issue (it is one), because it makes you look like a dolt?

I've played games for both systems, on HD sets. Gears of War, for example, looked clean, but I wasn't impressed all that much. If Nintendo wanted to, they could make a game look just as good, but that's not their game and they've stated that repeatedly. I'll take gameplay over graphics any day.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2010, 01:19:20 AM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 01:17:12 AM
I'll take gameplay over graphics any day.

I'll take well reasoned arguments over false dichotomies any day.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 01:24:14 AM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 01:05:57 AM
Why would I need a new TV? Outside of using the Wii and watching my 'Skins get pummeled, I have no reason to bother with it. Maybe when the price of the HD consoles plummet to a more reasonable price (<150), I'll get one of them along with a new set.

You can't afford $199 for an XBox 360 arcade unit? :teehee You can always get a nice HD monitor to use it on, too. No need for an HDTV.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 01:17:12 AM
I've played games for both systems, on HD sets. Gears of War, for example, looked clean, but I wasn't impressed all that much. If Nintendo wanted to, they could make a game look just as good, but that's not their game and they've stated that repeatedly.

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

I feel like I've travelled back in time to the old AOL days. You're like a genuinely absurdly blind n-fanboy. I take back what I said about your joke character act!

EDIT: Oh shit, he has an AOL e-mail address! :lol

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I'll take gameplay over graphics any day.

Yeah, me too. That's why I prefer to play games on the systems that have games with good game play and actual controllers, not waggle-fest garbage.

It's nice having game play and graphics, too.

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 01, 2010, 01:23:14 AM
I'll take a dead hooker over a peanut butter sandwich any day.

:lol
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 01, 2010, 01:25:18 AM: Boom Blox is kind of fun, I guess.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 01:37:33 AM: I think the Wii just might offer that something special I find lacking in a lot of HD games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: huckleberry on January 01, 2010, 01:38:48 AM: Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 01:37:33 AM
I think the Wii just might offer that something special I find lacking in a lot of HD games.

:rofl
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 01:40:38 AM: Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 01:37:33 AM
I think the Wii just might offer that something special I find lacking in a lot of HD games.

:bow Sho Nuff :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 01:40:45 AM: people can laugh at the idea that "fun" can be present in some games and not others, but it's clear that the profoundly brilliant engineers at nintendo know how to capture and quantify it and inject a bit of it into every piece of hardware and software they develop. "fun" is a hidden language; a numinous math understood only by those committed to creating joy rather than manufacturing to demographic specifications.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: cool breeze on January 01, 2010, 01:42:36 AM: dat whimsy
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Akala on January 01, 2010, 01:47:16 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on January 01, 2010, 01:40:45 AM
people can laugh at the idea that "fun" can be present in some games and not others, but it's clear that the profoundly brilliant engineers at nintendo know how to capture and quantify it and inject a bit of it into every piece of hardware and software they develop. "fun" is a hidden language; a numinous math understood only by those committed to creating joy rather than manufacturing to demographic specifications.

if disney can have imagineers, surely nintendo can have a few fungineers!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 01:47:47 AM: :bow MIYAMOTO-SAMA :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 01:57:04 AM: miyamoto-sama stood before the assembled host of engineers, designers, artists, testers, and marketers.

each one, to a man, was kneeling, reverent.

it was aonuma-san who broke the silence. "give us your blessing, great lord," he said.

miyamoto-sama opened his third eye and gazed through it into the throng. "music is the voice of the host," he said in words-that-were-not-words. "let all men, be they hale or weak, quick of wit or slow of thought, dextrous or sluggardly, accomplished or mechanical, recieve the gift of music." with his hands, he pantomimed many instruments, and a seraphic accompaniment began to syncopate his gestures.

"yes," said aonuma-san, swaying. "we will bring to all men the gift of music."

:bow :bow :bow :bow miyamoto-sama :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 01, 2010, 01:57:09 AM: Quote from: Harry Lime on January 01, 2010, 01:19:20 AM
Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 01:17:12 AM
I'll take gameplay over graphics any day.

I'll take well reasoned arguments over false dichotomies any day.

You can't really be surprised tho, the man equates Wii Music to gameplay.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 02:07:36 AM: (http://images.businessweek.com/ss/05/11/miyamoto/image/splash.jpg)

THE HOLY EMPEROR :bow MIYAMOTO-SAMA :bow2 SHALL SMITE THE LOWLY FANBOY OF HIGH DEFINITION.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Bebpo on January 01, 2010, 02:09:46 AM: This thread got awesome fast
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Purple Filth on January 01, 2010, 02:17:13 AM: Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 01:37:33 AM
I think the Wii just might offer that something special I find lacking in a lot of HD games.

amazing :lol

Quote from: Good Day Sir on January 01, 2010, 02:07:36 AM
(http://images.businessweek.com/ss/05/11/miyamoto/image/splash.jpg)

THE HOLY EMPEROR :bow MIYAMOTO-SAMA :bow2 SHALL SMITE THE LOWLY FANBOY OF HIGH DEFINITION.

now this thread is getting weird.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Third on January 01, 2010, 04:20:22 AM: The majority of Wii-only owners think it's the best system available. I never understood that.
I was the biggest nfag during the 16-bit generation, and I'm still secretly a Nintendo fan. But I really couldn't call myself a gamer if I'd only own a Wii.
That's the issue with most nfags. They don't care, as long as they support Nintendo. Good thing I evolved.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: T-Short on January 01, 2010, 05:08:59 AM: I bought my Wii when SMG hit, and have since then bought two more full price games (Wario Shake and NSMB Wii). I've also picked up some very low price bomba games from the bargain bins at various electronics stores based on internets recommendations, but haven't really gotten around to playing them. I also bought a Wiiware game (World of Goo) which I haven't played since finishing the demo. SMG is the only Wii game I've finished so far. I've played a good amount of Wario Shake, which I think is a pretty neat platformer, but I still stray away from it to play stuff on the 360 instead.

For me it was always going to be a backup console, a Nintendo vanity box to play the first party games and not much else. For me, in the last generation, the Gamecube got a lot more playtime compared to what I'm giving the Wii now. I played a bunch of really good games on the GC, and finished them, and also have quite a backlog of stuff that I never even started.

I saw some mentions of "worst machine ever", but uhh... the CD-i
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: T-Short on January 01, 2010, 05:10:03 AM: Quote from: dcharlie on January 01, 2010, 04:22:45 AM
the Wii just hasn't lived up to the early promise. Where as the DS won me over with great games, the Wii has failed miserably to hold my attention outside of spurts

Wii Spurts! hehe. that's great
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Third on January 01, 2010, 05:54:14 AM: Snes is still my favorite console of all time. Wii is the worst console I've ever owned, making it the worst console ever.
Nintendo really made a turnaround for me. I even liked the Gamecube. But the Wii is just a mess.
SMG, BoomBlox, NSMBwii, WiiSport Resort and Zack and Wiki are great games that everyone should play. Outside of that there isn't anything worth owning the console for imo.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: magus on January 01, 2010, 07:17:53 AM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on January 01, 2010, 06:11:46 AM
I didn't care much for the Gamecube either, nor the N64, so this is pretty much business as usual for me with Nintendo home consoles. I was hoping for a return to the SNES glory days, but that obviously didn't happen.

I think a person would have a tough time coming up with 50 must-own games across all three of Nintendo's last consoles combined, and that's pretty fucking pathetic.
three? so n64 included? i would take up the challenge!
would listing multiple mario count as cheating? ???
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Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 01, 2010, 09:07:01 AM: I was a huge Nintard back in the day - I owned the Nintendo consoles and wouldn't even give a second thought to owning a non Nintendo game. I was a huge N64fag and thought that anything on the PlayStation was a jaggy, unplayable piece of shit.

Fortunately, I saw one of the best consoles of all time, the Dreamcast, abandoned by Nintardism, and never looked back.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 09:14:46 AM: Quote from: dcharlie on December 31, 2009, 07:32:12 PM
i was excited for a while when i hacked my JPN unit, but after about 2 days i was left bored again.

I just don't have any compelling reason to switch the thing on.

(http://images.pricerunner.com/product/347x495/46903242/Pro-Evolution-Soccer-2010.jpg)

Guys need to be more informed.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 09:24:05 AM: Quote from: Professor Prole on December 31, 2009, 11:58:31 PM
how does a real wii fan list total pap and skip the two GREAT third-party exclusives: geometry wars galaxies and hotd overkill

That's kind of insulting to boom blox, duder. Geometry wars galaxies isn't that cool since it almost requires a classicon, and I dunno, I bought the damn thing for waggle.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 09:27:47 AM: Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on January 01, 2010, 09:15:56 AM
Why would you play that with waggle on the Wii and not on the PS3, 360 or PC?

WHY?

Seriously, dude? My huge main gripe with any team sports game is simply that you are reliant on the AI putting your teammates where they need to be. In the playmaker series, you use the pointer to move folks where you want them to be, set up defensive zones, pass where you click, etc. It's an astronomical improvement on soccer videogames that gets ignored every year because of some superficiall bullshit about it not being hd. the online community is non-existent, which is the only legitimate complaint I have with the series.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 01, 2010, 09:30:57 AM: I considered myself an N-tard through much of the 90's, even though I had a pretty big hard on for the Playstation as well, but this past decade Nintendo has faded into irrelevancy, at least from my perspective. I honestly couldn't give two shits about the Wii and have absolutely no desire to own one. Outside of Galaxy, there is literally nothing on that system that I'm even remotely interested in playing.

If MS and Sony go down this route in the next couple of years I'll just switch back to playing on the PC primarily.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 01, 2010, 09:35:23 AM: Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 01, 2010, 09:30:57 AM
I considered myself an N-tard through much of the 90's, even though I had a pretty big hard on for the Playstation as well, but this past decade Nintendo has faded into irrelevancy, at least from my perspective. I honestly couldn't give two shits about the Wii and have absolutely no desire to own one. Outside of Galaxy, there is literally nothing on that system that I'm even remotely interested in playing.

If MS and Sony go down this route in the next couple of years I'll just switch back to playing on the PC primarily.

My Nintardism has become dormant. I rarely get excited about the major stuff on other systems but if there is something major on the Game Cube or Wii, I want it. It was tempted to pick up a Wii this fall for NSMB but I know for a fact there were many more better games on the 360 or PS3. Why I don't consider them but want to play a Nintendo game (and then have it sit for the rest of the year unplayed), I'll never know.

I think Nintendo is a lot like beating a heroin addiction: you can suppress it well enough but it is always there.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: magus on January 01, 2010, 09:39:28 AM: i was never a n-tard,i bought a wii because it was cheap :dur
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 09:43:12 AM: You know, I think I agree with a lot of what is said in this thread. Wii looks like ass on a hdtv, which I think is a valid concern (I voted for the no hdtv option). The online multiplayer aspects are garbage. But what I most agree with is that I don't resonate with other's taste which is a huge reason why I'm into the system. Dragon Age looks like garbage to me, as does anything with generic d&d trappings and arbitrary stats. My most anticipated 'game' next year is a scuba simulator where you pet fishes. I liked Wii Music for its open ended goals and loathe the guitar hero games. So, big surprise, I have no problem dropping the label 'gamer'. I don't know why you gamers hate us nongamers so.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: archie4208 on January 01, 2010, 09:46:21 AM: Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 01, 2010, 09:30:57 AM
If MS and Sony go down this route in the next couple of years I'll just switch back to playing on the PC primarily.

It's already happening with Natal and the dildowand. :( Good jon killing the console market, Nintendo.

PC gaming is the last hope for real gamers who don't want to flail their arms like morons.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 09:49:08 AM: PC gaming blows. Its not fun sitting hunched over in a chair trying to move a guy with wasd. Couch and buttons or waggle dancing ftw.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: archie4208 on January 01, 2010, 09:51:07 AM: You can hook a PC up to a HDTV and have the big comfy couch with buttons :shh
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 09:52:48 AM: Hmm true, I kinda wish they would sell home theater pc setups... with waggle wands. There was some distinguished mentally-challenged gaf poster who nevertheless had a pretty sweet setup with a gyroscopic mouse. If I ever get that kind of money I'll look into it.

edit: then again multiplayer with people in the same room isn't even an option in most cases.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: archie4208 on January 01, 2010, 09:54:26 AM: When Wii emulation gets at 100%, it will be more beneficial to have a PC hooked up to the TV and a Wii emulator running than the actual Wii.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 09:57:41 AM: Considering the texture detail they are finding with the emulator, I'm almost convinced Nintendo is prepping their games for a wii hd down the road. I never knew Metaknight actually had an m emblem in brawl before seeing the high res shots.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:02:56 AM: I'm feeling generous. WiiWare gets ignored in these discussions. I'll have no qualms gifting bit trip beat and rotohex to anyone that wants it. Probably my two favorite games on the service.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:03:31 AM: "Flailing" your arms is probably the most exercise some of you fat-asses have seen since mandatory PE class, for which you've probably never dressed anyway.

The Wii has a great number of games that implement "waggle" either sparingly or correctly to produce the best of both worlds. Some developers like Konami. Capcom, WayForward, etc. are definitely getting it.

Developers are getting the hang of it, Sony wants to copy it (what else is new?), Microsoft wants a piece of the action, and gamers are loving it (refer to the 07-09 sales charts if you're lost at this point.)

Personally, I've had a blast with Silent Hill: SM, Link's Crossbow Training, NSMBWii, Wii Sports 1 + 2, Mario Kart Wii, Twilight Princess, Elebits, RE4Wii, RE:UC, and many many others.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 01, 2010, 10:06:11 AM: I suspect Natal and the Dildowand will fail spectacularly this fall, then quietly killed off, and forgotten.

Anyone who really wanted waggle already owns a Wii and I don't see soccer mom panties getting moist over owning a 360 or PS3. The Wii is far less intimidating, it is a direct knockoff of the Apple design (which soccer moms would like as they most likely own an iPod, if not an iMac or Macbook), and it is brain dead simple to set up. The 360 and PS3 have none of those things going for it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: archie4208 on January 01, 2010, 10:09:33 AM: Can someone name a game where motion controls have meaningfully added to the experience? The only game I can think of is Excite Truck/Bots where the tilt controls are pretty nice, but at the same time the gameplay is fairly sloppy and precision is rarely needed.

Pointer controls are pretty good in the right situation (Trauma Center <3), but it is still inferior to M/K for first person shooters (which was a Wiitard talking point when the controller was unveiled)
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:16:21 AM: Quote from: archie4208 on January 01, 2010, 10:09:33 AM
Can someone name a game where motion controls have meaningfully added to the experience? The only game I can think of is Excite Truck/Bots where the tilt controls are pretty nice, but at the same time the gameplay is fairly sloppy and precision is rarely needed.

Pointer controls are pretty good in the right situation (Trauma Center <3), but it is still inferior to M/K for first person shooters (which was a Wiitard talking point when the controller was unveiled)

Tiger Woods
Shaun White Snowboarding ( I personally can't stand the board controls though)
I think Wii Sports Resort shows how you could make a good bowling, sword, frisbee, etc. game, but I doubt anyone is going to follow through on it. And before it gets said, bowling in the original wii sports sucked. Adding spin initiated some lock-on shenanigans whereas in Resort it spins the way you tell it to.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:17:27 AM: oh shit

edit: What do people see in the original wii sports tennis? It only every read my lobs correctly. Could never do a slice/drop shot consistently.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: archie4208 on January 01, 2010, 10:19:12 AM: I forgot about Tiger Woods. I will concede that point. The motion+ was pretty awesome. Wii Sports/Resort feels like a really polished tech demo although the motion controls are generally well done.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:26:14 AM: Quote from: archie4208 on January 01, 2010, 10:09:33 AM
Can someone name a game where motion controls have meaningfully added to the experience? The only game I can think of is Excite Truck/Bots where the tilt controls are pretty nice, but at the same time the gameplay is fairly sloppy and precision is rarely needed.

Pointer controls are pretty good in the right situation (Trauma Center <3), but it is still inferior to M/K for first person shooters (which was a Wiitard talking point when the controller was unveiled)

I'll give you examples:

Silent Hill: SM (flashlight)
Modern Warfare: Reflex (called the best version of MW by quite a few reputable news outlets)
Wii Sports (will end up in Guinness as the top selling game of all time, if it's not now)
Tiger Woods Golf+ (best golf game ever)
Virtua Tennis+
Mario Kart Wii (best wheel controlled game ever, IMO)
Twilight Princess (hack and slash feature makes you feel like you're part of the game)
Wii Sports 2 (fencing game, perhaps the best competitive mini game to be released)
Light-gun games (Wii resurrected the dead genre overnight with games like Umbrella Chronicles, Deadspace Extraction, HotD, Link's Crossbow Training, RE:DC, etc.)
You've mentioned EXCITE truck/bots but it bears repeating.
So many other examples that I don't have time to mention.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:27:43 AM: Dude, I think they did a good job with the Modern Warfare port, but no. Try tracking someone with a sniper scope beyond your initial view point. PAIN IN THE ASS.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 10:28:57 AM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:03:31 AM
"Flailing" your arms is probably the most exercise some of you fat-asses have seen since mandatory PE class, for which you've probably never dressed anyway.

u watch it buddy. I'm doing Tae Kwon Do. And I'm good. I would just have to shout a mighty KIYAP and you would be on the floor cowering in fear. I'm almost as good as Hworang in Tekken. But you wouldn't even know because Wii doesn't have Tekken lol!!!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:31:15 AM: Hworang is what my brother played in tekken 3. I always thought hworang looked kinda gay, maybe a bottom. My brother came out of the closet a few years ago. Coincidence? I think not.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:31:49 AM: Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on January 01, 2010, 10:30:25 AM
Waggle made RE4 perfect. I really cant imagine playing the game without motion controls.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
Modern Warfare: Reflex (called the best version of MW by quite a few reputable news outlets)

Just stop, how can the `best version` not have multi? :lol

It has multi, with copious amounts of lag.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:35:44 AM: Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on January 01, 2010, 10:30:25 AM
Waggle made RE4 perfect. I really cant imagine playing the game without motion controls.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
Modern Warfare: Reflex (called the best version of MW by quite a few reputable news outlets)

Just stop, how can the `best version` not have multi? :lol

I know you were just corrected,but you're a fine example of a very uninformed gamer and one of the reasons why the Wii is so demonized by the self-deluded "hardcore community."

Wii = Obama
HD fanboys = FOX News
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 01, 2010, 10:38:38 AM: Who are these "reputable news outlets" that called the dumbed down Wiinis version of MW the best? Show your work, plz.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:39:50 AM: Want to be wii friends Nintendosbooger :-* We can start a clan and join the gamefaqs community!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 10:43:00 AM: Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:31:15 AM
Hworang is what my brother played in tekken 3. I always thought hworang looked kinda gay, maybe a bottom. My brother came out of the closet a few years ago. Coincidence? I think not.

(http://www.freewebs.com/hwangsvatkd/JL%20Pic.jpg)
KIYAP!

I bet that picture just made u pee your pants!!! Hworang is awesome and could kick your butt any day. loser!!!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:44:21 AM: Quote from: Вiff Кoммiёslaуer on January 01, 2010, 10:38:38 AM
Who are these "reputable news outlets" that called the dumbed down Wiinis version of MW the best? Show your work, plz.

Gamefaqs reviews.

In seriousness, I think only 1up gave it a good score or even bothered to review it. They gave it an a+. I personally disagree because the single player has terrible framerate issues. Multi is mostly good, except on certain maps teh pop-in issues means you won't know why your shots aren't connecting until you move up and a barricade materialises into existence. But thats mostly an issue with snipers. And from what I can tell it affects the one side of overgrown and certain sniping spots in ambush (the spawn points looking out into the no man's land)
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:45:51 AM: Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 10:43:00 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:31:15 AM
Hworang is what my brother played in tekken 3. I always thought hworang looked kinda gay, maybe a bottom. My brother came out of the closet a few years ago. Coincidence? I think not.

(http://www.freewebs.com/hwangsvatkd/JL%20Pic.jpg)
KIYAP!

I bet that picture just made u pee your pants!!! Hworang is awesome and could kick your butt any day. loser!!!

Yoshimitsu transcends fighting game rosters and will transcend your weaksauce fighting game skills. Bring it.
(http://c2.api.ning.com/files/mgLSWPsfOQF8H2lov*S9JNNWwhWhYSbppAa9K97NBOka8IH2LbKOe9woHNwICz*sACGYQOz1PHdPI2HspcPTbhcHzD8EQtdU/yoshimitsu.jpg)

(http://www.just-saying.com/thumbs/yoshimitsu.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 10:55:03 AM: OK U got me. Yoshimitsu is PRETTY cool. But I like when he looks like a space samurai and not an alien bug. Tekken 6 has a better Yoshimitsu I think.

Hey Nintendosbooger, I found a version of Tekken U can play! Maybe it's on virtual console!?
[youtube=560,345]6MFD2VSt9aY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Third on January 01, 2010, 11:16:00 AM: I can kick everyone's ass with Hwoarang and Ling Xiaoyu.

I bet Nintendosbooger's favorite fighting game is Super ~~button~~ Smash :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 11:18:01 AM: Just kidding guys I just button mashed with Eddie Gordo.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 11:23:33 AM: Quote from: Third on January 01, 2010, 11:16:00 AM
I can kick everyone's ass with Hwoarang and Ling Xiaoyu.

I bet Nintendosbooger's favorite fighting game is Super ~~button~~ Smash :teehee

A better thread would be "SSBB: Does it qualify as a fighting game?"

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Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 11:27:33 AM: You guys are going to hurt archie's feelings.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Third on January 01, 2010, 11:29:22 AM: Super Smash is definitely a party game. I would put it in the same category as Mario Party and Wii Sports.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: archie4208 on January 01, 2010, 11:34:09 AM: Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
You guys are going to hurt archie's feelings.
Yes. :'(

I went to smash tournaments.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Third on January 01, 2010, 11:35:38 AM: Really :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 11:41:43 AM: Forgot to mention SSX: Blur. I had purchased it day one, and it's still one of the best snowboarding games on the market, with near-perfectly integrated motion controls.

Let me not fail to mention the early sandbox games for the Wii, specifically Scarface (motion controlled chainsaw was intuitive) and Godfather. Both games justified the Wii's revolutionary control scheme.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: archie4208 on January 01, 2010, 11:42:13 AM: Hate all you want, Melee is an awesome game. Brawl sucks noodles, though. [/tourneyfag]
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 01, 2010, 11:53:11 AM: SSB Melee was fanservice but included a halfway decent party-fighter.

Brawl dropped the latter and is simply fanservice. I don't even expect SSB4 to have any kind of fighting at all, it will be just a way to trade Nintendo related tchotchkes and music themes with others online. They've already have this kind of set up with Animal Crossing now.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Third on January 01, 2010, 11:53:56 AM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 11:41:43 AM
Forgot to mention SSX: Blur. I had purchased it day one, and it's still one of the best snowboarding games on the market, with near-perfectly integrated motion controls.

Let me not fail to mention the early sandbox games for the Wii, specifically Scarface (motion controlled chainsaw was intuitive) and Godfather. Both games justified the Wii's revolutionary control scheme.

You're the perfect example of "setting the bar low"
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 01, 2010, 12:54:46 PM: Quote from: Third on January 01, 2010, 11:53:56 AM
Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 11:41:43 AM
Forgot to mention SSX: Blur. I had purchased it day one, and it's still one of the best snowboarding games on the market, with near-perfectly integrated motion controls.

Let me not fail to mention the early sandbox games for the Wii, specifically Scarface (motion controlled chainsaw was intuitive) and Godfather. Both games justified the Wii's revolutionary control scheme.

You're the perfect example of "setting the bar low"

that's one powerful bottom
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Himu on January 01, 2010, 02:14:14 PM: I still don't see it when people say wii > gc

Sure, if you consider wii can play gc games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: cool breeze on January 01, 2010, 02:23:58 PM: :bow Wii :bow2

trade in prices for Wii games are so much higher than 360 or PS3 games. Even old DS games are higher than 360 and PS3 games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Bebpo on January 01, 2010, 02:26:08 PM: Quote from: Himuro on January 01, 2010, 02:14:14 PM
I still don't see it when people say wii > gc

Sure, if you consider wii can play gc games.

Yeah I just looked through my GC collection:

F-Zero GX
REmake
RE4
Killer 7 (definitive edition)
PN.03
Baten Kaitos
Baten Kaitos II
Tales of Symphonia
Viewtiful Joe
Viewtiful Joe 2
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
Mario Sunshine
Wind Waker

Those are all A-quality games. What does Wii have so far in that bracket?
Mario Galaxy
NSMB Wii
maybe Tales of Graces
maybe No More Heroes

I left off Twilight Princess since both camps have it, SSB and Fire Emblem since both camps have it (basically the same game w/different maps). Result is that so far Wii is in no way comparable at all on the high end of software libraries. In the B/C quality range of decent gaming they're probably starting to get comparable. But GC had far more AAA games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 02:50:41 PM: Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on January 01, 2010, 02:27:52 PM
Nintendos consoles have less and less AAA games each gen.

Hate to break it to you, but for the possible exception of the NES/GB era, I sincerely doubt Nintendo is looking at any previous generation as fondly as this one. They're seeing record breaking sales and have wisely abandoned the fickle fanbase that barely kept them on life support the last generation. You can make reference to old GC games all you want but self-proclaimed hardcore gamers like you who talk a big game now never supported Nintendo on the same level their audience is doing now, and you honestly expect the Big N to heed your desires as a gamer? After how the "hardcore" fans literally abandoned them?

I'm glad Nintendo has given you all the middle finger while they're laughing all the way to the bank, depositing cash awarded from consumers WHO ACTUALLY BUY GAMES.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Bebpo on January 01, 2010, 03:24:28 PM: uh oh, it's sales-age time! Who cares about the games? We have the money!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 01, 2010, 03:34:06 PM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on January 01, 2010, 02:27:52 PM
Nintendos consoles have less and less AAA games each gen.

Hate to break it to you, but for the possible exception of the NES/GB era, I sincerely doubt Nintendo is looking at any previous generation as fondly as this one.

Which has FUCK ALL to do with the QUALITY of the games. But as long as your precious Nintendo is making money, I guess you don't really give a shit if Saint Shiggy is devoting his time to catering to the lowest common denominator, whether it be the elderly, soccer moms or the autistic.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 03:39:15 PM: Quote from: Bebpo on January 01, 2010, 03:24:28 PM
uh oh, it's sales-age time! Who cares about the games? We have the money!

It's not about the money; Nintendo software is finally being recognized and appreciated by the masses on a level never seen and Nintendo deserves it. Are their marquee games more casual friendly these days? Sure. But even Jay-Z has to simplify some of his shit for the masses to get it, but that doesn't make his albums garbage or take away his position as one of the greatest of all time.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 03:53:55 PM: Quote from: Вiff Кoммiёslaуer on January 01, 2010, 03:34:06 PM
Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on January 01, 2010, 02:27:52 PM
Nintendos consoles have less and less AAA games each gen.

Hate to break it to you, but for the possible exception of the NES/GB era, I sincerely doubt Nintendo is looking at any previous generation as fondly as this one.

Which has FUCK ALL to do with the QUALITY of the games. But as long as your precious Nintendo is making money, I guess you don't really give a shit if Saint Shiggy is devoting his time to catering to the lowest common denominator, whether it be the elderly, soccer moms or the autistic.

Oh, *now* we don't want to bring up sales, eh? Last gen ya'll were eating that shit up. What happened to all the "N1ntend0 4m d00med" and "handheld ghetto" rhetoric? Now that the story is flipped, you want to cry foul and crawl under a rock? Newsbreak: Quality is subjective, asshole. Now take your medicine and shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 01, 2010, 03:56:12 PM: Quote from: swaggaz on January 01, 2010, 12:15:26 AM
A brief history of my time with the wii: played a bunch at friends houses, got party games for it, had a blast doing all that. Mario Galaxy came out and was enchanting. Super hyped for Smash Brawl because Melee on Gamecube was fun with friends. Brawl was released, no one cared, Melee was more fun and that sorta killed the wii as a social thing for me. Since then I went through phases where I was hoping there was still something to play, wanting to check out any notable release, annoyed that there was literally nothing for it. Skip a head to now where I've come to peace with it. I'm not playing it much but I'm also not going to sell it. It will sit there, waiting, until a rare good game comes out. C/D-tier games like Silent Hill and Muramasa are getting skipped until they're really cheap. It's not just the Wii either since I have very little expectations for the Nintendo in general; the DS just had the advantage of good third party

complete agreement
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 01, 2010, 04:00:34 PM: When Nintendo makes good or great games (Galaxy) I'm the first person to admit it. But what they're doing now is not in any shape or way related to videogames. They're interactive toys for people who don't want to be challenged. Wii Fit is not a videogame. Wii Music sure as fuck isn't. I'm sorry that your blind, childlike devotion to a company that could care less about you has blinded you to these simple truths, but there it is!

As for taking my medicine... why would I give a shit? Nintendo's "success" in catering to the elderly, soccer moms and my autistic nephew hasn't stopped proper games from being made for me to enjoy. I played more great games in the past 12 months or so than I have since probably 2004, but only one of those was made by Nintendo or even on one of their systems. If anything, I'm DISAPPOINTED in Nintendo for not even trying. Shitting out Wii Butt Plug Extravaganza can't take any effort at all; it's the height of cynicism for them to keep mining that demographic. Eventually it will backfire on them, tho. It's kind of sad. I mean at least in Sega's case, they forgot how to make good games... Nintendo just doesn't care enough to do it consistently.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: magus on January 01, 2010, 04:01:19 PM: so games i think are worth a mention

Little King Story

this bears repetion,this is fucking goty material,this game is so awesome everything else implode out of the awesomeness of the game,it plays kinda like pikmin but unlike pikmin which bears barely any variety this game is totaly crazy and whack,if you still don't believe me just watch this spoilertastic video and then tell me that it isn't awesome if you can
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNzPWKSxUvg

Chocobo Mysterious Dungeon

good music remixes,nice job system,as a roguelike it's kinda too easy for veteran but that makes it more patable for people who scream like little girl when they lose all their experience,if you read japanese you can scratch this off the list because there is a ds port which actualy come with extra stuff

Opoona

ok ok i can already hear the laughs coming here and i didn't like it,why i'm putting this here? am i that desperate? nope! it's because this was probably the most fresh rpg coming out in the last 5 year,no fantasy setting,no sequel number attached to it,weird main character,wacky job related sidequest,this game was fresh! it's a shame the battle were boring and that most of the enviroment were empty

Punch-out

i don't understand why everybody forget about this,it was really fun and probably the most competent "old school reboot" i have ever seen,the pathethic sales are a slap to the face of the people that say that mario sells because of the "old school gameplay"

Zack & Wiki

it had some distinguished mentally-challenged design decision but otherwise it was a pretty original game and one of the few games out of a third party that made a good use of the wiimote

Mad World

it's repetitive,short and comes with boss that relies on QTE,it also has a rockin soundtrack,a weird art style and two guys who keep making stupid funny joke's (N.B i played this in italian which mean i got different jokes) and ehy bashing people head was the only good point of yakuza and it worked for that game!

The waggle Warioware/Wiisports/Wiisports resort combo

waggle game can be fun,not depth but fun!

Muramasa

plays better than odin sphere,still too repetitive and bland to really be called a masterpiece,at least it doesn't make you fight the same bosses 5 times,it's good but not great

Trauma Center

"but i played this on my ds" well yes but there is a sequel and you didn't play that on your ds! it's still awesome

Kororinpa

you like to roll balls,you'll like this also decent use of waggle

those One Piece game

i think i might be the only guy who played this because it was made by ganbarion (the guys who made jump ultimate super star) and not because it was a one piece game,it's a fairly standard action game but it's like a "collect stuff" maniac paradise,you get to fish and then you make a bag out of those fish and then you go catch beetles so they give you sap and you use sap to make glue to improve your fishing pole or to make sugar so you can cook cakes!

Mario Galaxy

no reason to put any text here

Twilight Princess

sure,sure you can play this on your gamecube but the wii version happened first so i'm calling dibs

Brawl

yes i love brawl! any problem with that? (i prefer melee tough)

mmm i think i could inflate this list a little more but then it would look more bloated,some title i wouldn't put in it for sure

(LIST OF BAD GAMES)

New Super Mario Bros
No More Heroes
i haven't played it but it can't be good - the Mario sports spinoff
Wii Music
i haven't played it but it can't be good - Wii Fit
Klonoa Remake
Deadly Creatures
Mario Kart
Metroid Prime (meh fps)
Fire Emblem (meh SRPG,SRPG that hate you by forcing you to restart a mission when one of the CPU unit dodge a hit with only the 5% of dodging and score a critical with again the 5% of doing it)
Capcom Shoddy Jobs (okami port,resident evil 4 wii,dead rising crappy port till you drop)
Final Fantasy Crystal Bearers
A Boy and his Blob has a sign to remind me it should be put here
Everything by Ubisoft
Everything by Sega
The Munchables
Elebits
Dewy Adventure
Animal Crossing
Let's Tap
The Conduit
i haven't played it but it can't be good - Castlevania Judgement
Tales Of Symphonia crappy spinoff
Disaster Day Of Crisis
Dragon Quest Swords
i haven't played it but it can't be good - that crappy soul calibur spinoff

dayum what a huge list of crap! maybe i should have put more title on the other side...
Quote
Yeah I just looked through my GC collection:
i don't think it's fair to compare the two library,gamecube had 6 years and half? wii barely has 3 years behind it
spoiler (click to show/hide)
and beside that list has PN 03 and killer 7 in it! and no my list with the one piece games is more awesome than your list
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Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Beezy on January 01, 2010, 04:05:46 PM: Quote from: Bebpo on January 01, 2010, 02:26:08 PM
Quote from: Himuro on January 01, 2010, 02:14:14 PM
I still don't see it when people say wii > gc

Sure, if you consider wii can play gc games.

Yeah I just looked through my GC collection:

F-Zero GX
REmake
RE4
Killer 7 (definitive edition)
PN.03
Baten Kaitos
Baten Kaitos II
Tales of Symphonia
Viewtiful Joe
Viewtiful Joe 2
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
Mario Sunshine
Wind Waker

Those are all A-quality games. What does Wii have so far in that bracket?
Mario Galaxy
NSMB Wii
maybe Tales of Graces
maybe No More Heroes

I left off Twilight Princess since both camps have it, SSB and Fire Emblem since both camps have it (basically the same game w/different maps). Result is that so far Wii is in no way comparable at all on the high end of software libraries. In the B/C quality range of decent gaming they're probably starting to get comparable. But GC had far more AAA games.

Icon Bebpo, leper Cohen.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: duckman2000 on January 01, 2010, 04:36:48 PM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: Вiff Кoммiёslaуer on January 01, 2010, 03:34:06 PM
Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on January 01, 2010, 02:27:52 PM
Nintendos consoles have less and less AAA games each gen.

Hate to break it to you, but for the possible exception of the NES/GB era, I sincerely doubt Nintendo is looking at any previous generation as fondly as this one.

Which has FUCK ALL to do with the QUALITY of the games. But as long as your precious Nintendo is making money, I guess you don't really give a shit if Saint Shiggy is devoting his time to catering to the lowest common denominator, whether it be the elderly, soccer moms or the autistic.

Oh, *now* we don't want to bring up sales, eh? Last gen ya'll were eating that shit up. What happened to all the "N1ntend0 4m d00med" and "handheld ghetto" rhetoric?

I'm pretty sure I've never been much for sales talk, but hey. I don't know who you're really addressing here, but "ya'll" would suggest that you're referring to some collective entity here, as if one actually existed. Good grief. Also, lulz @ more sales talk from some Wiiner.

Now, it's true that Nintendo isn't doomed. Longtime fans of Nintendo games (a group of people that we have learned are not necessarily interchangeable with "Nintendo fans") on the other hand may be doomed. Sales-age corporate slobbers such as yourself are probably quite merry.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: WrikaWrek on January 01, 2010, 04:41:58 PM: For the family...yes.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: duckman2000 on January 01, 2010, 04:43:00 PM: My kid prefers Crackdown to any Wii game I've subjected her to. Her cousin, whose family only has a Wii, is gassed about coming over so that he can play Warhawk and other cool games. Even kids hate Wii, what a shocker. It's the preferred choice for wives and mothers, and they wield a lot of power. Also, grandmothers like it, because it's safe for the grandkids, who really just want to play good games like Crackdown and Warhawk.

:piss Wii :piss2

By the way, can't we just make that an emoticon?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 01, 2010, 04:46:48 PM: this thread sucks now, wheres prole
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2010, 04:50:52 PM: He's probably busy playing Twilight Princess.
Title: MIYAMOTO-SAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA~
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 04:53:23 PM: Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:02:56 AM
I'm feeling generous. WiiWare gets ignored in these discussions. I'll have no qualms gifting bit trip beat and rotohex to anyone that wants it. Probably my two favorite games on the service.

Those are GBA ports.

Here's my favorite Nintendosbooger quotes from today.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:35:44 AM
Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on January 01, 2010, 10:30:25 AM
Waggle made RE4 perfect. I really cant imagine playing the game without motion controls.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
Modern Warfare: Reflex (called the best version of MW by quite a few reputable news outlets)

Just stop, how can the `best version` not have multi? :lol

I know you were just corrected,but you're a fine example of a very uninformed gamer and one of the reasons why the Wii is so demonized by the self-deluded "hardcore community."

Wii = Obama
HD fanboys = FOX News

:rofl :rofl :rofl

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 11:41:43 AM
Forgot to mention SSX: Blur. I had purchased it day one, and it's still one of the best snowboarding games on the market, with near-perfectly integrated motion controls.

Let me not fail to mention the early sandbox games for the Wii, specifically Scarface (motion controlled chainsaw was intuitive) and Godfather. Both games justified the Wii's revolutionary control scheme.

:rofl

Blur is total garbage. Only the blindest of N-fans would even think about listing that as even a halfway-decent title...which it's not.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 03:53:55 PM
Oh, *now* we don't want to bring up sales, eh? Last gen ya'll were eating that shit up. What happened to all the "N1ntend0 4m d00med" and "handheld ghetto" rhetoric? Now that the story is flipped, you want to cry foul and crawl under a rock? Newsbreak: Quality is subjective, asshole. Now take your medicine and shut the fuck up.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Oblivion on January 01, 2010, 04:59:48 PM: I can't believe there are still people -intelligent people, even - falling for Nintendobooger's obvious trolls. :/
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Beezy on January 01, 2010, 05:10:00 PM: I don't know you anymore.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 05:11:21 PM: Quote from: Oblivion on January 01, 2010, 04:59:48 PM
I can't believe there are still people -intelligent people, even - falling for Nintendobooger's obvious trolls. :/

Nobody is falling for anything. It's just having some fun -and total boredom-.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: The Sceneman on January 01, 2010, 05:12:33 PM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:03:31 AM
"Flailing" your arms is probably the most exercise some of you fat-asses have seen since mandatory PE class, for which you've probably never dressed anyway.

The Wii has a great number of games that implement "waggle" either sparingly or correctly to produce the best of both worlds. Some developers like Konami. Capcom, WayForward, etc. are definitely getting it.

Developers are getting the hang of it, Sony wants to copy it (what else is new?), Microsoft wants a piece of the action, and gamers are loving it (refer to the 07-09 sales charts if you're lost at this point.)

Personally, I've had a blast with Silent Hill: SM, Link's Crossbow Training, NSMBWii, Wii Sports 1 + 2, Mario Kart Wii, Twilight Princess, Elebits, RE4Wii, RE:UC, and many many others.

lol, check the post your pic thread. The majority of EBers are sex gods
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: magus on January 01, 2010, 05:16:55 PM: Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 01, 2010, 05:08:33 PM
Trauma Center Wii is omg awesome. the sequel sucked, but I'd take the first one over half (or more) of the games on Bebpo's list. Also listing multiplatform games :wag

:piss Gamecube :piss2
why you didn't like the sequel? i mean it's the same game only it comes with actual different missions
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: magus on January 01, 2010, 05:19:16 PM: i did but i didn't finish it,it didn't seems more unfair than the original
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 05:35:13 PM: Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 02:04:47 PM
This lineup here will help keep the Wii the #1 system this generation, so while you're drooling over review scores of games that won't ever achieve the level of success the Wii and its top games have seen, I'll be one of the tens of millions playing the sort of "shovelware" that's laughing at you and store shelf dust-collecting titles like Darksiders all the way to the bank.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 02:29:40 PM
You HD cocksuckers wouldn't get your panties in a bunch about sales-age rhetoric as much if you people actually bought video games. There is no reason why the top 10 software of this gen is occupied predominantly by Nintendo titles. Blame yourselves for talking a big game about HD titles but when they're released, you fuckers are nowhere to be seen, which is why HD sales this gen are embarrassingly dwarfed by the Wii. I actually buy games, not talk shit about buying games on forums such as this one.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 02:29:40 PM
That's why I couldn't care less if you downplay these great upcoming Wii titles. If these companies were in the business of catering to fickle outliers like you, they'd be bankrupt. So fuck your tastes.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on December 31, 2009, 05:04:38 PM
What's a Wii?

The system that made Sony fanboys not want to talk about sales any more.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: The Fake Shemp on December 31, 2009, 05:13:06 PM
Because they were too busy playing real games.* :smug

But not buying them: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=20639

OooOooh, in your face!

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 05:52:48 PM
Quote from: Jansen on December 31, 2009, 05:41:25 PM
i've had a wii for 8 months now and aside from loading up twilight princess to hack it i haven't played a wii game on it yet.

not even the appeal of free games can entice me enough to waste gaming time on it.

Your loss, guy.

Mario Galaxy
Metroid Prime 3
Resident Evil 4 Wii
Punch Out
Smash Bros
Wii Sports Resort
Wii Fit+
Muramasa
A Boy and His Blob
New SMBWii
No More Heroes
MadWorld

A lot more released and a lot more soon to be released, for sure. There's a reason why it's the top selling system with the top selling software this generation, and that's because it has games that HD bots wish could be on their overpriced consoles.

I'm a happy Wii owner and will continue to expand my existing Wii library with the swarm of excellent games soon to be released.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 07:35:24 PM
It's arguably the best home console system this generation, and only the second overall behind the DS.

What you HD fanboys can't seem to grasp is that no one outside of the universally ignored basement-dwelling community of gamers gives a kung-fu flying shit about your taste in games. If they did, HD console sales would actually reflect that and high impact "next-gen" games like FF13 wouldn't be selling on pace to match Square-Enix's shameless cash-in, FFX-2, in Japan.

The Wii is the system to own this generation. The games prove that and the numbers prove it. You don't like it? Then take your jilted asses to Gamestop and go fetch yourselves a copy of Darksiders, Demon Souls, or whatever the fuck it is you eye-candy zombies like to play -- trust me, there are PLENTY of copies of those games collecting dust on shelves. ;)

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 11:52:11 PM
I don't care what your gripe with the system is. The blockbuster first-party games on the Wii more than make up for its alleged third party software deficiency. Can we expect third party games on the Wii to be as good as Nintendo's? Of course not. No one can beat Nintendo at this game. No one. But do I feel that the third party games adequately supplement the Wii's enormously successful first party library, to combine for a complete and unforgettable gaming experience? Absolutely. While I'm waiting for Galaxy 2 to come out, I've been playing Silent Hill: SM, Muramasa, and others. Great games that will warm me up for an even greater game.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 01:05:57 AM
Why would I need a new TV? Outside of using the Wii and watching my 'Skins get pummeled, I have no reason to bother with it. Maybe when the price of the HD consoles plummet to a more reasonable price (<150), I'll get one of them along with a new set.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 01:17:12 AM
I've played games for both systems, on HD sets. Gears of War, for example, looked clean, but I wasn't impressed all that much. If Nintendo wanted to, they could make a game look just as good, but that's not their game and they've stated that repeatedly.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:03:31 AM
I'll take gameplay over graphics any day.

...

"Flailing" your arms is probably the most exercise some of you fat-asses have seen since mandatory PE class, for which you've probably never dressed anyway.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
Modern Warfare: Reflex (called the best version of MW by quite a few reputable news outlets)

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
Wii Sports (will end up in Guinness as the top selling game of all time, if it's not now)

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
Twilight Princess (hack and slash feature makes you feel like you're part of the game)

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:26:14 AM
Wii Sports 2 (fencing game, perhaps the best competitive mini game to be released)

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 10:35:44 AM
Wii = Obama
HD fanboys = FOX News

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 11:41:43 AM
Forgot to mention SSX: Blur. I had purchased it day one, and it's still one of the best snowboarding games on the market, with near-perfectly integrated motion controls.

Let me not fail to mention the early sandbox games for the Wii, specifically Scarface (motion controlled chainsaw was intuitive) and Godfather. Both games justified the Wii's revolutionary control scheme.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 02:50:41 PM
Hate to break it to you, but for the possible exception of the NES/GB era, I sincerely doubt Nintendo is looking at any previous generation as fondly as this one. They're seeing record breaking sales and have wisely abandoned the fickle fanbase that barely kept them on life support the last generation. You can make reference to old GC games all you want but self-proclaimed hardcore gamers like you who talk a big game now never supported Nintendo on the same level their audience is doing now, and you honestly expect the Big N to heed your desires as a gamer? After how the "hardcore" fans literally abandoned them?

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 02:50:41 PM
I'm glad Nintendo has given you all the middle finger while they're laughing all the way to the bank, depositing cash awarded from consumers WHO ACTUALLY BUY GAMES.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 03:53:55 PM
Oh, *now* we don't want to bring up sales, eh? Last gen ya'll were eating that shit up. What happened to all the "N1ntend0 4m d00med" and "handheld ghetto" rhetoric? Now that the story is flipped, you want to cry foul and crawl under a rock? Newsbreak: Quality is subjective, asshole. Now take your medicine and shut the fuck up.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 03:39:15 PM
Quote from: Bebpo on January 01, 2010, 03:24:28 PM
uh oh, it's sales-age time! Who cares about the games? We have the money!

It's not about the money; Nintendo software is finally being recognized and appreciated by the masses on a level never seen and Nintendo deserves it. Are their marquee games more casual friendly these days? Sure. But even Jay-Z has to simplify some of his shit for the masses to get it, but that doesn't make his albums garbage or take away his position as one of the greatest of all time.

Well, I'm convinced. Wii is clearly the dominant console. Selling my 360, PS3, and HDTVs off tomorrow.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Crushed on January 01, 2010, 05:42:31 PM: delete thread, leper or ban everyone who posted in it, murder willco
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: cool breeze on January 01, 2010, 05:46:00 PM: Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 01, 2010, 05:22:44 PM
Really? My wife is actually one of the better Trauma Center players worldwide (not even joking here) and she picked up on all kinds of problems in the second one that aren't in the first one. There are weird difficulty spikes and parts of the game where oing the same thing twice will result in different results (the DS version had similiar issues). Overall it isn't a very polished game.

really? I bought New Blood for $10 when Amazon had it on sale a while ago because I liked he first DS game. I had trouble with the DS game. Is new blood that much harder?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: drew on January 01, 2010, 05:47:02 PM: lyte edge i think you may have a bit too much time on your hands
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 05:47:54 PM: Quote from: drew on January 01, 2010, 05:47:02 PM
lyte edge i think you may have a bit too much time on your hands

Totally. Super Mario Galaxy 2 is months and months away, so I have nothing else to do until then. :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Oblivion on January 01, 2010, 05:49:03 PM: Well, glad Lyte's not taking this seriously.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 05:50:10 PM: Quote from: Oblivion on January 01, 2010, 05:49:03 PM
Well, glad Lyte's not taking this seriously.

You think anything said ITT is serious? :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Beezy on January 01, 2010, 05:52:07 PM: Quote from: swaggaz on January 01, 2010, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 01, 2010, 05:22:44 PM
Really? My wife is actually one of the better Trauma Center players worldwide (not even joking here) and she picked up on all kinds of problems in the second one that aren't in the first one. There are weird difficulty spikes and parts of the game where oing the same thing twice will result in different results (the DS version had similiar issues). Overall it isn't a very polished game.

really? I bought New Blood for $10 when Amazon had it on sale a while ago because I liked he first DS game. I had trouble with the DS game. Is new blood that much harder?
New Blood is a co-op game. I don't even know why there's a single player mode. It's impossible to beat. It's an amazing game if you have a partner though. It's one of the few Wii games that held my attention long enough for me to beat.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 01, 2010, 05:52:29 PM: Quote from: Crushed on January 01, 2010, 05:42:31 PM
delete thread, leper or ban everyone who posted in it, murder willco

This.

This thread is as bad as the NPD threads at this point. I vote lock it up.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Crushed on January 01, 2010, 05:55:59 PM: Yeah Cohen, I have to ask about New Blood as well. I was super-hyped for it (Second Opinion was actually my first Wii game; I bought it before I even had the console), but the consistent talk of, "it's totally unbalanced for single-player" made me decide to skip it. Ever since that day, I've wondered if I made a terrible mistake. Assuage my guilty soul and tell me that my terrible choice was justified, as otherwise I have skipped a Trauma Center game for no reason, a crime most foul in the eyes of Heaven.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 05:57:27 PM: Quote from: Crushed on January 01, 2010, 05:42:31 PM
delete thread, leper or ban everyone who posted in it, murder willco

cosign
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Purple Filth on January 01, 2010, 05:57:53 PM: thread is officially garbage
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: demi on January 01, 2010, 06:05:32 PM: Quote from: Good Day Sir on January 01, 2010, 05:50:10 PM
Quote from: Oblivion on January 01, 2010, 05:49:03 PM
Well, glad Lyte's not taking this seriously.

You think anything said ITT is serious? :lol

You're completely ruining it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 06:13:26 PM: :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 06:14:19 PM: (http://files.list.co.uk/images/2008/08/21/family.jpg)

KIYAP!!!
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 06:19:36 PM: AH RAAH CHAH CHAH CHAH CHAH CHAH CHAH CHAH!!!!11111
Title: Re: MIYAMOTO-SAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA~
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 06:24:32 PM: Quote from: Good Day Sir on January 01, 2010, 04:53:23 PM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 10:02:56 AM
I'm feeling generous. WiiWare gets ignored in these discussions. I'll have no qualms gifting bit trip beat and rotohex to anyone that wants it. Probably my two favorite games on the service.

Those are GBA ports.

No, bit trip beat is not what you think it is. Look it up.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 06:30:25 PM: Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 01, 2010, 06:14:19 PM
(http://files.list.co.uk/images/2008/08/21/family.jpg)

KIYAP!!!

That is some awesome hair. :o
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 06:38:41 PM: Cool, I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Crushed on January 01, 2010, 06:39:23 PM: the truth is bitter, but at least i am absolved of my sins.

hopefully Trauma Team will be fuck-awesome
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: magus on January 01, 2010, 06:40:23 PM: Quote from: Good Day Sir on January 01, 2010, 05:50:10 PM
Quote from: Oblivion on January 01, 2010, 05:49:03 PM
Well, glad Lyte's not taking this seriously.

You think anything said ITT is serious? :lol
bu bu but i was serious :'(

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 01, 2010, 06:33:01 PM
Quote from: Crushed on January 01, 2010, 05:55:59 PM
Yeah Cohen, I have to ask about New Blood as well. I was super-hyped for it (Second Opinion was actually my first Wii game; I bought it before I even had the console), but the consistent talk of, "it's totally unbalanced for single-player" made me decide to skip it. Ever since that day, I've wondered if I made a terrible mistake. Assuage my guilty soul and tell me that my terrible choice was justified, as otherwise I have skipped a Trauma Center game for no reason, a crime most foul in the eyes of Heaven.
The game is balanced for multiplayer, that much is true. But the multiplayer has its own issues, and noting alleviates the fact that some of the missions are just plain broken. My wife can still dominate the fuck out of the game, however, even on singleplayer (with the exception of the fuking heart transplant bullshit). Overall it was a huge step backwards.

i went pretty far on my own on hard none the less,i surrended on a mission where you basicaly have to do all the previous mission all at once and when i say all at once i mean something like "6 diseases,3 rounds,2 disease at the same time each,repeat everytime you screw up on the last round") i wasn't man enough to put the game on easy or normal so i just quitted
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 06:46:25 PM: wiitards can only exercise when miyamoto-sama tells them to, unlike the rest of the actually fit world
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 06:57:30 PM: Quote from: Professor Prole on January 01, 2010, 06:46:25 PM
wiitards can only exercise when miyamoto-sama tells them to, unlike the rest of the actually fit world

In wii fit's defense, my short stints with excercising where excruciatingly boring. Im talking 3 hours a day, 5 days a week. I kept it up for about a month until I really dreaded going back. WiiFit I would say, "has good pacing" if you would understand that, although no its not going to be comparable to real cardio.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: pilonv1 on January 01, 2010, 06:58:49 PM: what the fuck were you training for where you needed to do three hours a day?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 01, 2010, 07:00:47 PM: I was just trying to lose weight man. I wasn't training for nothing. I always have lots of free time.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: magus on January 01, 2010, 07:14:04 PM: uh by the way here is the mission where i just said
"fuck it!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96UM9X_XIGo
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: demi on January 01, 2010, 07:28:36 PM: Quote from: magus on January 01, 2010, 07:14:04 PM
uh by the way here is the mission where i just said
"fuck it!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96UM9X_XIGo

lol. shoot bugs: the game

i think i had this downloaded to. i'll be sure to delete it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: cool breeze on January 01, 2010, 07:31:12 PM: I have trouble with normal Trauma Center and this is supposed to be hard with co-op and impossible wtih single player? damn. I'm at least going to try New Blood before I sell it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: iconoclast on January 01, 2010, 07:39:39 PM: The Wii Trauma Centers suck if only because the controls are shit compared to the DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: archie4208 on January 01, 2010, 08:14:42 PM: Trauma Center Wii is one of the best things about the system. Pinpoint accurate controls. :drool Last gen PS3 and 360 annihilated.

New Blood was distinguished mentally-challenged hard, though.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 01, 2010, 09:00:33 PM: my questions to myself:

-do I have fun with it
-does it display an avatar on a screen that mimics my actions

-yes
-yes

so, meh.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 09:05:35 PM: Quote from: BrandNew on January 01, 2010, 09:00:33 PM
my questions to myself:

-do I have fun with it
-does it display an avatar on a screen that mimics my actions
-does my sister jump and jiggle a lot while playing it with me

-yes
-yes
-don't judge me

so, meh.

fixed.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: iconoclast on January 01, 2010, 09:19:39 PM: Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 01, 2010, 08:33:57 PM
Quote from: iconoclast on January 01, 2010, 07:39:39 PM
The Wii Trauma Centers suck if only because the controls are shit compared to the DS.
I originally thought this as well, but having put more hours into both than I'd care to admit (and after watching my wife do some missions so fast that she wasn't able to get the highest rank because there wasn't enough points to score) I can tell you that youa re, in fact, wrong.

Well that's nice to hear, since I played 3 or 4 missions in New Blood before I decided the Wii controls were beyond awful. I'll give it another eventually.

Actually maybe I'll play some tonight between Dragon Age and Mushihime.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Beezy on January 01, 2010, 09:22:58 PM: Quote from: swaggaz on January 01, 2010, 07:31:12 PM
I have trouble with normal Trauma Center and this is supposed to be hard with co-op and impossible wtih single player? damn. I'm at least going to try New Blood before I sell it.
It's not hard on co-op if both you and your partner played a Trauma Center game before on the DS or Wii.

Wasn't the first Trauma Center Wii game just a remake of the first DS game? I skipped it because of this.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 02, 2010, 06:16:59 AM: Void is pretty awesome and its a little more forgiving, although when it inverts your controls I get sad. Core is some game I'm going to have to come back to because its a total mindfuck trying to keep track of four different quadrants.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Ichirou on January 02, 2010, 07:05:46 AM: If I buy a US Wii, can I still use the Freeloader to play JP games?
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: MCD on January 02, 2010, 07:11:51 AM: no one uses freeloader anymore.

homebrew that shit.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Beezy on January 02, 2010, 02:13:47 PM: Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 01, 2010, 09:30:19 PM
You shouldn't have Beezy :wag

It fixes all the problems the DS version had (stitches, bandages especially, and the DS deadzones are nonexistent) and nails the controls perfectly.
Oh okay, I guess I'll pick it up for cheap someday.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 02, 2010, 08:36:49 PM: Quote from: dcharlie on January 01, 2010, 06:39:35 PM
Quote
"Flailing" your arms is probably the most exercise some of you fat-asses have seen since mandatory PE class, for which you've probably never dressed anyway.

this is my favourite, and it's not the first time i've seen some Wiiaboo come out with it. It's like as soon as the Wii came out, Wiiaboos discovered exercise and thought that because they were playing "tennis" that they somehow "owned" exercising. Wii Fit made things worse. I'm not shitting you - the number of Nintendo fans who SUDDENLY discovered that EXERCISE can help you *GASP* lose weight was amazing. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THE WAY, MAGICAL MIYAMOTO SAMA!

The fact that they suddenly shat up the internet with this "new found knowledge", acting like no one else has ever exercised before is the height of embarrassing. It just shows they are little more than yapping puppy dogs waiting for actual LIFE knowledge to drop from Miyamoto and co's plate. If you need Nintendo to point shit like this out to you, you should end yourselves.

wow! :drool
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 02, 2010, 09:47:18 PM: Quote
I think that if DivDiv would've had regenerating enemies on top of that, it would have been just too overwhelming.

Well new builds of my code do occasionally introduce regressions, but I don't know that I can plausibly blame the IDE for that.
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 03, 2010, 02:34:20 AM: Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on January 02, 2010, 09:47:18 PM
Quote
I think that if DivDiv would've had regenerating enemies on top of that, it would have been just too overwhelming.

Well new builds of my code do occasionally introduce regressions, but I don't know that I can plausibly blame the IDE for that.

:wtf
Title: Re: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on January 03, 2010, 03:05:21 AM: To your limited perception, I appear to have posted in the wrong thread. To your limited perception.