Author Topic: Nintendo Wii: Does it really qualify as a videogame system? (Read 23824 times)

The Fake Shemp · « **on:** December 31, 2009, 07:18:43 PM »

I figured we should let the community put this to rest once and for all, because there seems to be some confusion that the Wii is more than a party favor or glorified karaoke machine. I've never heard of real gamers using the system as their sole gaming platform, but rumors from across the Internet have reached my ears.

Third · « **Reply #1 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:20:24 PM »

Wii is the worst gaming system ever. This is not debatable- it's a fact.

But I'll always buy Nintendo's systems because of Zelda and Mario. $:-\$

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:20:35 PM »

lol no, it doesn't

duckman2000 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:24:38 PM »

Gamecube was at least decently powerful, so there were some decent ports available. Wii is shit, and it's all exclusive shit. Fuck Wii, for it sucks.

It has Super Mario Galaxy which is fucking awesome, and that's sort of ironic. And really fucking annoying, too.

bork · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:25:59 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on December 31, 2009, 07:22:26 PM

It's better than the Gamecube

$:-\$

I dunno. The Game Cube had titles like Resident Evil, Resident Evil 4, PN03, F-Zero GX, Super Monkey Ball, Beach Spikers, Viewtiful Joe, MGS TTS, etc., plus good third party support with games like Soul Calibur II, SSX3, and CvS2. And it could also play Gameboy games. The Cube also seems to have better image quality than the Wii does.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:26:53 PM »

This is true. And F-Zero GX was

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:27:04 PM »

metroid trilogy, mario galaxy, and wii sports resort are good.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:29:13 PM »

The new Metroid licks ass. So you're then basically saying that two out of the four decent games are Gamecube ports? I guess that's fair.

bork · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:31:08 PM »

I refuse to believe anyone who considers themselves "a gamer," "hardcore," or whatever term you wish to use for "nerd who plays with too many electronic toys" actually uses the Wii as their only gaming system. It's something only a joke character would say.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #9 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:31:28 PM »

i havent even gotten past the first metroid prime. so i dunno about the quality of the other two yet.

Nintendosbooger · « **Reply #10 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:35:24 PM »

It's arguably the best home console system this generation, and only the second overall behind the DS.

What you HD fanboys can't seem to grasp is that no one outside of the universally ignored basement-dwelling community of gamers gives a kung-fu flying shit about your taste in games. If they did, HD console sales would actually reflect that and high impact "next-gen" games like FF13 wouldn't be selling on pace to match Square-Enix's shameless cash-in, FFX-2, in Japan.

The Wii is the system to own this generation. The games prove that and the numbers prove it. You don't like it? Then take your jilted asses to Gamestop and go fetch yourselves a copy of Darksiders, Demon Souls, or whatever the fuck it is you eye-candy zombies like to play -- trust me, there are PLENTY of copies of those games collecting dust on shelves.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #11 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:39:05 PM »

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 07:35:24 PM

The Wii is the system to own this generation. The games prove that and the numbers prove it.

I decided to use a picture of a dog instead of Inigo Montoya in the hope that I might be able to actually communicate with someone whose brain has been addled by Nintendo Dogs. I know, I know. But we have to at least TRY to reason with it.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #12 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:39:42 PM »

it's a toy

bork · « **Reply #13 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:40:20 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on December 31, 2009, 07:32:12 PM

i was excited for a while when i hacked my JPN unit, but after about 2 days i was left bored again.

I just don't have any compelling reason to switch the thing on.

Every now and then something will come out that I'll play for a bit, then inevitably the system goes back to collecting dust again. It's not like I have a small library of titles, either.

Normally I might write a bigger response, but Nintendosbooger is a poor attempt at a joke account, and one that doesn't work here. He doesn't get the Bore. His posts are already stale and boring.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:41:29 PM »

It's a damned shame the things are so easy to come by. For a while there, it was entirely possible to make a small profit off of buying one, keeping it to play the annual decent game that the shit system gets, and then selling the rotten thing. Bummer, because Mario Galaxy will probably be pretty alright. No fucking way I'm buying this miserable piece of shit system again without the promise of losing nothing.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #15 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:41:37 PM »

I've been having trouble hacking me Wii. I got the HBC installed but when i try to to install cios38 rev14, i get nothing but errors. dunno what i have to do.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #16 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:46:04 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on December 31, 2009, 07:41:29 PM

It's a damned shame the things are so easy to come by. For a while there, it was entirely possible to make a small profit off of buying one, keeping it to play the annual decent game that the shit system gets, and then selling the rotten thing. Bummer, because Mario Galaxy will probably be pretty alright. No fucking way I'm buying this miserable piece of shit system again without the promise of losing nothing.

That's EXACTLY what I did when Fire Emblem came out for the Wii. Bought one used off of Craigslist and sold it for $20 more than I paid for it.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:49:40 PM »

Graphics

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:52:06 PM »

As much as the HD systems I guess since they are jealous of the marketshare it has and eager to try to copy it with Natal and Project Disco Ball.

Moran · « **Reply #19 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:53:03 PM »

Used to be an Ntard until I owned a Wii for 2 years, sold it and bought a 360

Shame I'll miss out on Galaxy 2 though.

Beezy · « **Reply #20 on:** December 31, 2009, 07:58:55 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on December 31, 2009, 07:22:26 PM

It's better than the Gamecube

$:-\$

Your worst post ever. Monster Hunter has clouded your judgment.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #21 on:** December 31, 2009, 08:05:24 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on December 31, 2009, 07:41:37 PM

I've been having trouble hacking me Wii. I got the HBC installed but when i try to to install cios38 rev14, i get nothing but errors. dunno what i have to do.

Gbatemp has the best guides. Some errors aren't anything and you just have to keep trying until it goes through

magus · « **Reply #22 on:** December 31, 2009, 08:28:25 PM »

i wanted to make a list of game i enjoyed on the wii but then i feel like i would be on the wrong side of the thread and i don't want that...

what do i have to do bore? $:-\$

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #23 on:** December 31, 2009, 08:38:38 PM »

because carrying a little purple lunchbox took you back to your days in an all girl's school

Bebpo · « **Reply #24 on:** December 31, 2009, 08:47:49 PM »

I actually like my Wii when I stop trolling it and play the good games on the system (there are like...10).

Sad but true :'(

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #25 on:** December 31, 2009, 08:48:28 PM »

The Wii has games

Oblivion · « **Reply #26 on:** December 31, 2009, 08:51:10 PM »

Wii is pretty shitty, both in the tech department and library front, but I'd still take SMG over the entire GC catalogue, minus probably RE4.

Nintendosbooger · « **Reply #27 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:02:54 PM »

That's what's wrong with this forum. Most of the loud mouths here possess comparable gaming tastes and opinions of what constitutes quality gaming, resulting in the absence argumentative discussion that serves to fuel forum activity.

If you people didn't succumb to the godawful pack mentality that seems prevalent in this community, this forum might actually be a lot more active than it is right now.

Troll forums actually have a low ceiling in terms of potential growth, and while it's commendable that this community is moderated lightly, you banned-from-NPD-threads rejects need to quit sucking each other's dicks and stroking each other's egos at the expense of honest and contentious discussion.

Third · « **Reply #28 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:04:08 PM »

Rman · « **Reply #29 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:06:38 PM »

It's been this way since the N64 with Nintendo's consoles. No one should be surprised. I keep biting because I need my Mario and Zelda fix. Cohen's right about the Gamecube. Nintendo's first party output was very lackluster in the Gamecube era--Sunshine was garbage and Celda, while visually interesting fell apart at the end. Capcom saved the Gamecube from total irrelevance. The PS2 obliterated that system. Heck, even the Xbox brought more to table--XBL, The Halos, superior 3rd party ports, Ninja Gaiden, etc.

I've actually been surprised with the Wii, so far, from a 1st party perspective--both Mario games have been fun. Zelda was decent, although tired by now, and Punch Out has been surprising. The Wii line games hold no interest to me, however, but I know they're not targeted for me anyway. And the Virtual Console has been great as well.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #30 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:13:53 PM »

but what if we don't want to quit sucking each other's dicks

feels good man

duckman2000 · « **Reply #31 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:15:25 PM »

Dude reminds me of "Aphextwin2" from the IGN boards.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 09:02:54 PM

If you people didn't succumb to the godawful pack mentality that seems prevalent in this community, this forum might actually be a lot more active than it is right now.

And this would be desirable? Now for the record, I'm at odds with plenty of people here, and we still get along. Mostly.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #32 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:18:56 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on December 31, 2009, 09:15:25 PM

And this would be desirable? Now for the record, I'm at odds with plenty of people here, and we still get along. Mostly.

This.

Wii trolling is popular among a certain group over here. Not that everybody feels that way. I don't for instance. (I'm not a fan of the Wii but for different reasons than most people) The thing about the bore is not that you don't have factions or trolling. It's that the trolling is generally seen as what it is. People voicing an opinion or blowing off steam and not the word of god and if you voice a different opinion you won't have a mod threatening you with a ban out of hypocrisy or just anger.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #33 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:21:25 PM »

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 07:35:24 PM

It's arguably the best home console system this generation, and only the second overall behind the DS.

What you HD fanboys can't seem to grasp is that no one outside of the universally ignored basement-dwelling community of gamers gives a kung-fu flying shit about your taste in games. If they did, HD console sales would actually reflect that and high impact "next-gen" games like FF13 wouldn't be selling on pace to match Square-Enix's shameless cash-in, FFX-2, in Japan.

The Wii is the system to own this generation. The games prove that and the numbers prove it. You don't like it? Then take your jilted asses to Gamestop and go fetch yourselves a copy of Darksiders, Demon Souls, or whatever the fuck it is you eye-candy zombies like to play -- trust me, there are PLENTY of copies of those games collecting dust on shelves.

Oh no you di it

Third · « **Reply #34 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:22:00 PM »

It's not as if this forum is the only forum out there where the Wii gets shit on.
Wii gets shit on in all gaming forums across the world. Pretty understandable considering the Wii is the worst gaming system in a long time, maybe ever.

Bebpo · « **Reply #35 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:23:38 PM »

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 09:02:54 PM

That's what's wrong with this forum. Most of the loud mouths here possess comparable gaming tastes and opinions of what constitutes quality gaming, resulting in the absence argumentative discussion that serves to fuel forum activity.

If you people didn't succumb to the godawful pack mentality that seems prevalent in this community, this forum might actually be a lot more active than it is right now.

Troll forums actually have a low ceiling in terms of potential growth, and while it's commendable that this community is moderated lightly, you banned-from-NPD-threads rejects need to quit sucking each other's dicks and stroking each other's egos at the expense of honest and contentious discussion.

I don't think you've seen the FFXIII thread

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #36 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:26:06 PM »

There's a FFXIII

drew · « **Reply #37 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:27:35 PM »

yeah eb has lots of members that werent gaf members before joining, gaffags cant seem to comprehend this for some reason, and this isnt really a forum suited for serious discussion, if you cant have fun, which i doubt you know how to do online and especially irl going by how you talk, and you dont like the people here, you should probably just leave

duckman2000 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:29:09 PM »

Getting a bit JustinP in here

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #39 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:32:34 PM »

Game Cube was much better than the Wii because third parties would occasionally put in the effort. Sure, they all wound up getting ported to the PS2 but they were originally intended for the NGC.

The Wii is not for us. Nintendo effectively gave all of their past fans the finger. Nintards will clap their hands and wave spastically at the TV but Nintendo no longer needs their old fans. The old fans held Nintendo back because they just wound up going to the PS2 anyway. Soccer moms and grandmas are untapped cash reserves that are netting Nintendo billions of dollars in profit. Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about you and what you play, if there are three old decrepit fucks who will buy the latest Wii Sports for every one butthurt gamer they lose, Nintendo won't care. Which explains why there is barely any shit worth playing, despite having overwhelming dominance over the 360 and PS3 sales wise. We're barely blips on their radar, which is why they thought that we were getting treated by having a new Animal Crossing at E3 2008.

I do think the Wii is the worst top selling system of all time. Its library resembles something you'd see on failed systems like the 3DO, the Pippin, or WonderSwan Color. It has the shovelware of a top selling system without the classics that accompany it. Developers know, given sales of games like Dead Space, that it is more financially lucrative to make a mini game collection than anything else. Which is why we see more Ubi Petz and Jillian Michael's Fitness rather than Dead Space Extractions.

That said, I think Galaxy will be my favorite game of the generation. So for that game alone, to answer the question, I say yes. I kind of think this generation is kind of a wash but SMG is one of the few games that made me excited to play video games, at least for the month it took me to play and beat the game twice.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #40 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:32:45 PM »

I'm not a Wii fan for specific reasons.

And it's not.

A.) The graphics. Because if you've reached the point where graphics are your main concern in games, you're truly lost.
B.) Motion control as a concept. Because I expressesly bought the system for motion control.
C.) Lack of third party games. If you buy a Nintendo system in this day and age and expect third party support, you're an idiot.
D.) Not enough hardcore games. There is a 360, PS3, and PC on the market. If you bought a Wii expecting hardcore games you're an idiot.

I have issues with the Wii because.
A.) It should have shipped with Motion Plus. The original control method while interesting was pretty limited unfortunately and it's too late to get everybody aboard the Motion Plus.
B.) Their online feautures and game support suck Donkey Balls. This is 2010 now. I'm an online gamer. Any console that doesn't heavily support this stuff loses my support.
C.) I've reached a point where as much as I enjoy Zelda, and Mario Kart games, there is a sameness that is starting to seep in with their core franchises. A lot of it seems to be trading on nostalgia as I replay the same games over and over.
D.) My core tastes have changed and evolved. As much as I love and respect Nintendo my world view has expanded a bit beyond their offerings and with limited time and resources I find myself more interested in gaming on the PC and HD systems.

Some one else obviously is entitled to feel a completely different way and logically support their thoughts. I totally understand how somebody could enjoy being a Wii gamer. That simply isn't me however. It's all opinions. If somebody loves the Wii or the 360, or the PC, or Ps3 and somebody trolls that system it says more about them and it's simply an opinion. Troll em back I say. None of these opinions matter. It's just nerds passing time on a messageboard. Never take it anymore seriously than that.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #41 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:41:17 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 09:32:45 PM

It's just nerds passing time on a messageboard. Never take it anymore seriously than that.

Really? I'm shocked!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #42 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:44:33 PM »

Quote from: T EXP on December 31, 2009, 09:41:17 PM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 09:32:45 PM
It's just nerds passing time on a messageboard. Never take it anymore seriously than that.

Really? I'm shocked!

Oddly enough I think we often lose sight of that myself included. This goes for all messageboards and forums specifically and the internet in general. Never take it so seriously that you end up rage posting. Much better to mock post.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #43 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:47:02 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 09:44:33 PM

Quote from: T EXP on December 31, 2009, 09:41:17 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on December 31, 2009, 09:32:45 PM
It's just nerds passing time on a messageboard. Never take it anymore seriously than that.

Really? I'm shocked!
Oddly enough I think we often lose sight of that myself included. This goes for all messageboards and forums specifically and the internet in general. Never take it so seriously that you end up rage posting. Much better to mock post.

I just thought that it seemed obvious because most of the people mocking the Wii in this thread and on EB in general have either purchased or will purchase numerous Wii systems. I know I'll be getting my second Wii when Galaxy 2 comes out, for instance.

Nintendosbooger · « **Reply #44 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:59:31 PM »

Quote from: drew on December 31, 2009, 09:27:35 PM

yeah eb has lots of members that werent gaf members before joining, gaffags cant seem to comprehend this for some reason, and this isnt really a forum suited for serious discussion, if you cant have fun, which i doubt you know how to do online and especially irl going by how you talk, and you dont like the people here, you should probably just leave

I'm not going anywhere so feel free to lick my balls and then dry them with a print-out of your psychological assessment before stuffing it into your mouth.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #45 on:** December 31, 2009, 10:17:02 PM »

hahaha

drew · « **Reply #46 on:** December 31, 2009, 10:21:25 PM »

Quote from: T EXP on December 31, 2009, 09:41:17 PM

It's just nerds passing time on a messageboard. Never take it anymore seriously than that.

speak for yourself

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 09:59:31 PM

I'm not going anywhere so feel free to lick my balls and then dry them with a print-out of your psychological assessment before stuffing it into your mouth.

NOW youre getting it, lets fuck

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #47 on:** December 31, 2009, 10:23:06 PM »

on the subject of waggle:

rumor going around (according to David Ellis) is that Natal is getting shit stripped out of it to bring the price down as low as possible, which would mean all the processing would have to come from the 360, which would cause a lot of devs to lose whatever interest they have in it, which would mean a lot of straight-up wii ports, which would mean me leaving it on the shelf because i already have a wii

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #48 on:** December 31, 2009, 10:23:24 PM »

Quote from: Good Day Sir on December 31, 2009, 07:25:59 PM

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on December 31, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
It's better than the Gamecube

$:-\$

I dunno. The Game Cube had titles like Resident Evil, Resident Evil 4, PN03, F-Zero GX, Super Monkey Ball, Beach Spikers, Viewtiful Joe, MGS TTS, etc., plus good third party support with games like Soul Calibur II, SSX3, and CvS2. And it could also play Gameboy games. The Cube also seems to have better image quality than the Wii does.

I was about to post this. I've had lots of fun with Wii Sports/Resort but it's basically like a karaoke machine. I could pick up RE4/Viewtiful Joe/SCII today and still have some fun.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #49 on:** December 31, 2009, 11:24:03 PM »

or you could pick up dead space/bayonetta/sc4 and have next-gen fun

bork · « **Reply #50 on:** December 31, 2009, 11:40:43 PM »

Real talk: I own 30 Wii (disc) games. I think around nine of those I bought this past year alone. I have yet to fully complete any of them, because I always end up going back to the 360 and PS3. The controls are better, there's online play for more than three games (and it doesn't suck), and most importantly, there's just better games available. I've been too busy with titles like Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil 5, Halo 3, Modern Warfare 2, Uncharted 2, Tekken 6, BlazBlue, and Bayonetta among others to bother with the Wii. What are the equivalent titles to those on Wii? The only online "fighters" are Smash Bros. and DBZ TB3, and the online stinks. FPS games...the Conduit? LOL. CoD4? OH BOY A STRIPPED-DOWN PORT OF A TWO YEAR OLD GAME! Awesome. I agree that the Wii is the gaming equivalent of a karaoke machine. The most fun I get with it is playing the occasional party game with people who don't or rarely play video games.

Nintendo has published some good games, but third party barely feels like a blip on the radar. And the controls are an issue. I love Tenchu 4. LOVE IT. But it plays like a complete mess on the Wii compared to its PSP counterpart. Waggle sucks.

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 09:02:54 PM

That's what's wrong with this forum. Most of the loud mouths here possess comparable gaming tastes and opinions of what constitutes quality gaming, resulting in the absence argumentative discussion that serves to fuel forum activity.

If you people didn't succumb to the godawful pack mentality that seems prevalent in this community, this forum might actually be a lot more active than it is right now.

Troll forums actually have a low ceiling in terms of potential growth, and while it's commendable that this community is moderated lightly, you banned-from-NPD-threads rejects need to quit sucking each other's dicks and stroking each other's egos at the expense of honest and contentious discussion.

You haven't been here long enough to have any idea about everyone's tastes. You just don't get this place; it's not NeoGAF as already pointed out.

A pretty high number of members here also own all of the systems. We don't give a fuck about system wars, sales-age, or any of that garbage. People are just having fun with the posts you're making. If you're actually serious about what you're talking about, that just turns the hilarity up several more notches.

Nintendosbooger · « **Reply #51 on:** December 31, 2009, 11:52:11 PM »

I don't care what your gripe with the system is. The blockbuster first-party games on the Wii more than make up for its alleged third party software deficiency. Can we expect third party games on the Wii to be as good as Nintendo's? Of course not. No one can beat Nintendo at this game. No one. But do I feel that the third party games adequately supplement the Wii's enormously successful first party library, to combine for a complete and unforgettable gaming experience? Absolutely. While I'm waiting for Galaxy 2 to come out, I've been playing Silent Hill: SM, Muramasa, and others. Great games that will warm me up for an even greater game.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #52 on:** December 31, 2009, 11:55:22 PM »

i have played both shattered memories and muramasa and any praise for them shows just how low the bar is for wii-exclusive fans

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #53 on:** December 31, 2009, 11:58:06 PM »

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on December 31, 2009, 11:52:11 PM

Can we expect third party games on the Wii to be as good as Nintendo's? Of course not. No one can beat Nintendo at this game. No one.

Good old Nintendo loyalty.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #54 on:** December 31, 2009, 11:58:31 PM »

how does a real wii fan list total pap and skip the two GREAT third-party exclusives: geometry wars galaxies and hotd overkill

demi · « **Reply #55 on:** January 01, 2010, 12:03:12 AM »

Hey man I've posted plenty of awesome wii reviews. Wii gets lots of love around here.

Nintendosbooger · « **Reply #56 on:** January 01, 2010, 12:06:33 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on December 31, 2009, 11:55:22 PM

i have played both shattered memories and muramasa and any praise for them shows just how low the bar is for wii-exclusive fans

Drinky, your taste is shit and has, for as long as I can remember, always been shit. HotD Overkill is a bugfest and if you want your Wii locking up, I would recommend it.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #57 on:** January 01, 2010, 12:08:06 AM »

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 01, 2010, 12:06:33 AM

Quote from: Professor Prole on December 31, 2009, 11:55:22 PM
i have played both shattered memories and muramasa and any praise for them shows just how low the bar is for wii-exclusive fans

Drinky, your taste is shit and has, for as long as I can remember, always been shit.

I agree:
http://www.gaming-age.com/reviews/archive/old_reviews/ga2/n64/zelda.shtml

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #58 on:** January 01, 2010, 12:08:20 AM »

my wii will lock up for countless other reasons such as poor gpu heat dissipation, which you'd know if you'd actually played it for more than ten minutes a pop!

which did you like better: shattered memories sloppy nightmare sequences, or muramasa's endless, encounter-free backtracking? shattered memories' poor waggle detection, or muramasa's grade-three difficulty?

demi · « **Reply #59 on:** January 01, 2010, 12:09:20 AM »

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