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Title: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 13, 2010, 09:27:53 PM
New Screens!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2710/4271020609_5af5897676_o.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2690/4271021507_a38f3e1300_o.jpg)

It's pretty impressive how they have managed to include just about every visual flaw you can think of. I'm sure there is slowdown and pop-in too.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Third on January 13, 2010, 09:32:46 PM
Are the first two Alien vs Predator games on the PC playable still? I've heard they're pretty scary and good.
Might try them out if they're not too ugly.

This one looks shit, though.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: drew on January 13, 2010, 09:33:05 PM
[youtube=560,345]lu3VTngm1F0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 13, 2010, 09:38:11 PM
Looks amazing for a <insert derogatory legacy console/handheld here> game

PC version  :-\

Third, I replayed AvP2 last year I think, and while obviously ugly (not that this one looks much better) it was still pretty intense. You really feel hunted as a Marine.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Jansen on January 13, 2010, 09:39:16 PM
did they run outta bullshots?
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 13, 2010, 09:40:27 PM
I'm not too worried since the PC version will run at 1680x1050 with 8xAA and VSync.

AvP2 is still pretty awesome, by the way.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 13, 2010, 09:45:23 PM
I'm not too worried since the PC version will run at 1680x1050 with 8xAA and VSync.

And then it might even look like an AvP mod for Deus Ex or something!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4072/4271019907_369f39fa16_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Jansen on January 13, 2010, 09:45:40 PM
whoa rebellion made shellshock 2 and rouge warrior? this game is going to suck!
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 13, 2010, 09:47:21 PM
GAFers seem to believe that those games were the anomalies, and that they just haven't had the right material. One of the Rebellion dudes even asked of people to sort of ignore those games, and he's obviously unbiased.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: drew on January 13, 2010, 09:50:29 PM
why are the textures on the floor and walls of the hive flat

why does everything look like the ocean on a windy day when its really sunny out
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 13, 2010, 10:12:28 PM
i sure am glad sega cancelled the aliens rpg for this original and innovative shooter yes i am
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 13, 2010, 10:36:31 PM
Hey guys, remember when Alien vs. Predator games were awesome?
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 13, 2010, 10:37:01 PM
i sure am glad sega cancelled the aliens rpg for this original and innovative shooter yes i am

They're actually doing TWO shooters. The other's squad based.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 13, 2010, 11:08:53 PM
Sega is the NBC of game publishers
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: cool breeze on January 14, 2010, 10:40:49 AM
Aren't they trying to pimp tessellation with this game as well as other DX11 features? not a convincing show
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: cool breeze on January 15, 2010, 02:03:22 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/3730/

they released Aliens vs. Predator Classic 2000 just now for $5

It's the first AvP on PC and the only updates seem like compatibility with modern computers and 360 controller support.  No online yet.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 15, 2010, 02:05:27 PM
Just go to your local whatever store and pick up AvP2 in the old and forgotten basket for .99. I'm sure it's better than the new Rebellion game.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Bebpo on January 15, 2010, 02:07:53 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/3730/

they released Aliens vs. Predator Classic 2000 just now for $5

It's the first AvP on PC and the only updates seem like compatibility with modern computers and 360 controller support.  No online yet.

Brings back memories.  Only AvP I played.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 15, 2010, 08:04:41 PM
http://tvgry.pl/?ID=806

This is totally Rogue Warrior stealth kills, but in Alien form and with less cussing.  :lol Enemies seem about as bright as well. There's a dude there that gets jumped by the Alien, only to do a robot turn and calmly type on a keypad.

[youtube=560,345]mNWCsYqc-tE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 15, 2010, 08:43:20 PM
I wonder if they are doing the life cycle thing. That was one of the cooler bits of AvP2. Looking for a host as a weak facehugger, then chew your way out of the chest, escape and find some low level food, and then emerge as an Alien. :rock

Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 15, 2010, 08:57:36 PM
http://tvgry.pl/?ID=806

 :-\
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 15, 2010, 11:30:19 PM
did the rogue warrior just stab a dude in the business? jesus
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 15, 2010, 11:44:24 PM
Two of the big problems with that AvP video are how you're barely penalized at all for being seen and how it's almost impossible for you to be seen even when you run up beside some guy.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 16, 2010, 12:27:21 AM
Exactly like Rogue Warrior, then. Run up to one dude, kill him. Run up to the dude standing 10ft away and who didn't hear a thing, kill that dude, and so forth. I mean, why are these dudes even standing guard?

Animations are just as hilariously buggy, too.

Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 16, 2010, 11:30:15 AM
Exactly like Rogue Warrior, then.

Pretty much.  :-\
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: cool breeze on January 16, 2010, 01:48:50 PM
yeah, I kinda want to see Predator and Marine gameplay before I totally write this off.  Even in AvP2 I didn't like playing as the Alien.

I do like that they updated AvP1 for modern computers.  I'd like it if they did that with more older games, specifically system shock 2, which I've been meaning to replay for 3 years now but can't on my computer.  I'd also take AvP2 because I remember liking it a lot more than the first game.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: cool breeze on January 17, 2010, 02:12:29 PM
If we're talking about online shooters about aliens, Natural Selection :bow2.  NS2 looks dope.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Brehvolution on January 18, 2010, 10:29:39 AM
lol this is brutal:
http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14322168/aliens-vs-predator-2009/videos/avp_trl_bloodyhelltrailer_11310.html
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 18, 2010, 10:47:23 AM
So ugly.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 18, 2010, 12:01:05 PM
 :lol That's the shittiest trailer I've seen in some time
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: demi on January 20, 2010, 09:00:39 PM
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/aliens-v-predator/achievements/

Decent list... until you get to the multiplayer shit.

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The Six Pack 30 
Play with six friends in a Ranked Match

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Brehvolution on January 20, 2010, 09:21:48 PM
That trailer is probably what you see while it's loading.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 20, 2010, 09:25:35 PM
I like how people are like "those kill moves are sweet, will buy" when everything else looks average or shitty.

Did they say the same thing about the kill move trailer for Rogue Warrior? lulz
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Cravis on January 22, 2010, 04:19:43 PM
The 10 minute gameplay trailers of the Predator and Marine missions sold me. This game oozes atmosphere. They're really making an attempt to tie all 3 stories together moreso than the previous entries.

The Predator's voice distractions look really fun to use. I was debating about PC but I think I'm going to pick it up for the 360.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: cool breeze on January 22, 2010, 05:10:02 PM
Where are these 10 minute videos?

The alien gameplay didn't look great and that's the only gameplay I've seen.  But I never liked playing as the alien in these games.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbxj6o_spoiler-aliens-vs-predator-10-minut_videogames
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbxurk_spoiler-aliens-vs-predator-10-minut_videogames
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbxurd_spoiler-aliens-vs-predator-les-10-m_videogames

internet is pretty cool
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 24, 2010, 08:32:09 PM
[youtube=560,345]3tMRTxhnPDw[/youtube]

I lol'd. Don't know why they are even worried about this species, seeing as how they apparently can be punched to death with ease.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: cool breeze on January 24, 2010, 08:52:43 PM
that doesn't look too bad, visually I mean.  Kinda reminds me of the Doom 3 engine games, except better.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on January 27, 2010, 09:24:26 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/aliensvspredatorworkingtitle/video/6248149

Looks rough. Seems like they kept the Rebellion tradition of flopidopwhop corpses.  :lol
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: demi on February 02, 2010, 09:09:13 AM
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-4292-AvP-Multiplayer-Demo-Coming-This-Week.html
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: cool breeze on February 03, 2010, 10:18:24 PM
consensus on pc multiplayer demo: terrible demo, maybe ok game.

The game doesn't seem too bad, but they picked deathmatch as the only mode on a crappy dark map for the demo.  You pick a species, which it hard to figure out because the menu interface is really bad, and kill everything that movies including other players using that same species.  As a marine I was shooting marines, aliens, and predators.  Biggest problem is that this game is context sensitive heavy with unnecessarily long animations.  Like, both Alien and Predator have insta-kill moves from behind, and this is context sensitive, and even after you land it there is a five second animation of the kill.  Another example is how the predator has a leap move that is done by holding down a button, then aiming a cursor on the world to find an acceptable spot to jump, then having to watch the jump animation. 

Still, the biggest problem was the demo selection.  Multiplayer only, crappy map, crappy game type, no introduction how to play whatsoever.  Team deathmatch would have been preferable.  The other modes like horde and whatever seem like they could be fun, you just can't try them in the demo.  Same situation with single player.  But I don't know what it says about a game if they thought this was the mode to show off in a demo  :-\
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 03, 2010, 10:21:26 PM
Honestly its weird that they chose a MP demo instead of a SP demo. If that game has any hope of doing well it needs to have a good campaign. Its not the sort of game that can get away with relying on the MP imo. That animation thing sounds lame.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Jansen on February 04, 2010, 04:39:13 AM
i can't get into a fucking game. perhaps that is for the best.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 04, 2010, 10:58:51 AM
Biggest problem is that this game is context sensitive heavy with unnecessarily long animations.  Like, both Alien and Predator have insta-kill moves from behind, and this is context sensitive, and even after you land it there is a five second animation of the kill.

So the game is like Rogue Warrior then.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 04, 2010, 11:17:56 AM
demo was crap. pass
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: cool breeze on February 04, 2010, 11:20:53 AM
Biggest problem is that this game is context sensitive heavy with unnecessarily long animations.  Like, both Alien and Predator have insta-kill moves from behind, and this is context sensitive, and even after you land it there is a five second animation of the kill.

So the game is like Rogue Warrior then.

from what I've seen of Rogue Warrior, yes, but worse because it's online.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 04, 2010, 01:15:01 PM
Downloaded and deleted within 15 mintues.

It's just plain old Deathmatch where you kill everybody which is lame. They should have put in Team Deatmatch or one of the more specialized modes at the least.
It has no real instructions or practice mode for a game that is pretty different than most shooters.
Those kill animations that take too long and where you can be killed is a bad design choice.
I played the Predator and the Alien and couldn't even be bothered to try out the soldier.

I mean its kind of neat to play an FPS with three radically different types of characters but they simply haven't kept up with the times design wise. This feels like a game ripped out of the 90's.
They should just focus on trying to make a good single player game before they try to grapple with MP.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 04, 2010, 01:15:21 PM
A shitty demo from shitty rebellion? I'm shocked

Weren't you sort of optimistic about Rebellion not too long ago? Revisionist cynicism, smh.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: TripleA on February 04, 2010, 02:59:39 PM
It took 14 minutes to get into a game.

Interest in the game is now way down.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 05, 2010, 01:34:18 AM
The GAF thread is remarkable. I mean, we've all been there with some game, but damn. Apparently shitty netcode and other bugs, crummy graphics, uninspired level design and dodgy gameplay are all acceptable shortcomings. After all, it is "a demo based on a pre-release version."  :wtf
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 05, 2010, 01:38:44 AM
That's juts placeholder netcode. This is a demo based off the alpha. Once the final version hits, it'll be fine.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: demi on February 05, 2010, 04:35:53 AM
Oh man this game is BAD, lmao

> Load up BC2 demo, get in a full match instantly

> Load up AVP, wait a minute or two and get put in with -1- person
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 05, 2010, 12:04:53 PM
OMG they released a patch for a demo
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 05, 2010, 11:00:36 PM
Wow dudes, character animation of the marines is really bad.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 08, 2010, 11:10:33 AM
Wow dudes, character animation of the marines is really bad.

But is the game fun? And does the game look great? Everyone keeps saying the game looks great and the lighting is amazing, but I don't believe it.

It's like the most basic form of online shooter, and it looks bleh, and that includes the lighting. Animations are particularly shit. Oh, and there is a focus on extended kill animations, like in Rogue Warrior. They also released a demo that required a patch to even function. bu bu bu Rogue Warrior and Shellshock were developed by a different Rebellion studio!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
That's damned near the exact same argument that Sonytards were pushing before Killzone 1 came out.
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I think fans of the Aliens and Predator movies/comics should be sort of pissed off about this, but I guess it's Enter the Matrix all over again.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 08, 2010, 03:46:15 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/23k86xk.gif)
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 08, 2010, 03:49:59 PM
"Marines trained to ignore strange sounds and forget about missing allies"

That's exactly what that first alien campaign gameplay clip showed. Coupled with dodgy animation transitions, I'd guess it feels more comical than anything.

Don't really get the complaint about the motion tracker, though. That was fucking awesome in AvP2, so maybe Rebellion just failed to deliver the scenarios to make the motion tracking exciting.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Brehvolution on February 08, 2010, 03:50:56 PM
[img]http://i48.tinypic.com/23k86xk.gif[img]
:lol :lol Ouch
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 09, 2010, 05:06:07 AM
That GI review is really crap :yuck...complaining about Predator heavy stealth focus

Another review has surfaced...OXM UK gave it 8/10

Anyway i cant wait to to start butchering marines and aliens  :hyper
:bow Predator :bow2
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Cravis on February 09, 2010, 08:44:50 AM
That GI review is really crap :yuck...complaining about Predator heavy stealth focus

Another review has surfaced...OXM UK gave it 8/10

Anyway i cant wait to to start butchering marines and aliens  :hyper
:bow Predator :bow2
Awesome! I can't wait. Glad to see OXM liked it.

I don't put much faith in reviews from a magazine that was originally created as an incentive to buy Edge cards.  :lol
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Brehvolution on February 09, 2010, 01:23:39 PM
Some dude keeps sending me join requests for this game on the PS3. I haven't checked messages in ages but there were 5 from this same dude and my PS3 has been off for the past 3 days. :???
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 09, 2010, 02:04:18 PM
Why would a magazine that is manufactured to help sell product give a game a low score? Game Informer numbers are almost always inflated in an effort to boost GameStop sales. This is just proof that the game is complete garbage.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 09, 2010, 02:07:49 PM
Besides, all of GI's complaints sound reasonable if the game is poorly designed, which it certainly seems to be. What's the point of wicked stealth stuff if the levels are super-linear and the enemies (marines) braindead? And the motion tracker, how shitty must an aliens game be to make the motion tracker anything short of bloody awesome? GI has a dodgy reputation, but Rebellion's reputation is worse.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 09, 2010, 02:15:58 PM
I don't think Game Informer has ever had the reputation of scoring games too low.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 09, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
I don't think Game Informer has ever had the reputation of scoring games too low.

The only time they'll rate games low is if they think bro-gamers won't buy it.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 09, 2010, 04:40:13 PM
There was the Paper Mario review, but the truth behind that has been pretty distorted (much like the "they didn't like the stealth wtf," which makes a lot more sense in context). Their reasoning for Paper Mario actually made a bit of sense, in a buyer's guide sort of way.

In any event, no, they are not exactly known for underrating games. Rebellion, on the other hand, is very well known for making low-rating games.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 11, 2010, 09:00:06 AM
IGN UK-8.5

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1068446p1.html (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1068446p1.html)

Not bad at all...cant wait
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 11, 2010, 09:37:21 AM
Shitty framerate is now an old school flavor?  :lol
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Tauntaun on February 12, 2010, 04:42:07 PM
 :'(  AvP2 was so awesome though. 


spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'll still buy it though cause I'm a fanboy.  :'( :'(
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Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 12, 2010, 04:44:29 PM
As I recall, it was also much more awesome than AvP.

Monolith is awesome

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:shh Sometimes
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Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 12, 2010, 10:36:41 PM
I guess NeoGAF got its official thread up, and the dude left out the GI review. lulz. I'd call the dude a plant, but GAFers do this for free all the time.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=387508
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: FatalT on February 12, 2010, 11:10:01 PM
Duckman cares way too much about hating on this game. :lol

24 of the thread's posts are from him.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 12, 2010, 11:38:59 PM
And this isn't even the Gearbox version!
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 13, 2010, 05:30:07 PM
After much debate, no less.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 13, 2010, 05:34:36 PM
Are you trying to get yourself outed or something?
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: demi on February 13, 2010, 05:35:40 PM
This game has been on the net for a while now. Where are the impressions, Maxy?
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 13, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
This game has been on the net for a while now. Where are the impressions, Maxy?
When i finish Marine playthrough. 
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 14, 2010, 07:17:12 AM
Finished with predator and marine,started alien.
Verdict...good game,they really nailed the atmosphere,kills are very satisfying,predator,marine,alien,it doesn't matter,sound is excellent.And despite that the engine is a bit outdated,it looks decent,sometimes great,lightning and shadowing saves it.
Marine campaign is probably the best one in terms of story and can be damn scary sometimes,things tend to jump on you and then disappear in the dark.
Predator feels like a badass,once you master the controls you will kick some serious ass,jump attack some alien horde,kill a few and jump to some elevated position...so good...but beware,don't let your guard down,if you want to survive have to kill without hesitation
Alien,played it a little bit,feels like an alien.
Game is polished,performs good,no tearing,no "bugs" so far...

Now to less than good aka crappy stuff
Individual campaigns are short,at least they feel like that
End boss fights are easy and badly designed   
Marine gameplay feels dated,in huge locations(quite a few) he is just too slow,but nothing beats pulse rifle ripping through alien skin.
Bad cutscenes
Story is forgettable,predictable
Game features some great locations,shame that they haven't been exploited more


So,its not a disaster its not excellent,somewhere in between,game budget was obviously low,there is a hint for a sequel at the end.Hopefully it sell well and the sequel gets significantly larger budget,there is someone at Rebellion that really understands what Aliens and Predators are. 

 
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: drew on February 14, 2010, 08:12:56 AM
That GI review is really crap :yuck...complaining about Predator heavy stealth focus

Another review has surfaced...OXM UK gave it 8/10

Anyway i cant wait to to start butchering marines and aliens  :hyper
:bow Predator :bow2

bitch confirmed

opinion null and void
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 14, 2010, 09:00:38 AM
Also,play on hard,much better 8)
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: demi on February 14, 2010, 09:03:44 AM
After the string of crap I've played in the past month, I'm going to just NOT play this at all and dodge a bullet. Will wait for some RPG to come out instead.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 14, 2010, 05:41:10 PM
After the string of crap I've played in the past month, I'm going to just NOT play this at all and dodge a bullet. Will wait for some RPG to come out instead.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8KnFm1oPMQ[/youtube]
 :D

He is playing on normal,btw
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 15, 2010, 02:33:20 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/aliensvspredatorworkingtitle/review.html (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/aliensvspredatorworkingtitle/review.html)

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When three mediocre games are jammed into a single package, the result is still mediocre.

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But in each campaign, the thrill wears off quickly when you discover that Aliens vs. Predator botches a lot of the basics, and what seems thrilling at first becomes downright tedious as you struggle with poorly designed levels and gawky gameplay.

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You'll crawl onto some walls and outcroppings willy-nilly whether or not it's what you intended to do. You'll try to activate one of the game's super-picky button prompts and jump onto a wall instead, or wrestle with the controls and camera trying to do something as simple as slither into a vent. You'll eventually learn to wield some control over the alien's fickle movement, but even then, moving around isn't all that enjoyable. You never feel in control of an actual creature; instead, it's as if you are floating just above the ground.

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Executing a well-planned attack can be fulfilling, though the game doesn't create many such moments, leaving you to make them of your own accord.

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Unfortunately, irritating mechanical and level design limits yank all the fun out of scurrying around (in the case of the alien) and leaping from one destination to the next (in the case of the predator). Some levels require you to move about only in ways the developer intended. You might want to scamper up and over an obstacle, only to run into an invisible wall or ceiling; and as the predator, you can leap to certain surfaces but not to others for reasons that don't always make sense. Why can you leap 20 feet to one spot, while you can't hop over a six-inch barbed-wire fence?

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Enemy humanoids will do incredibly stupid things like take cover on the wrong side of a wall, exposing their backs to you. Sometimes, their ability to notice you even when you're camouflaged borders on the magical; other times, they're all but oblivious to your presence from two inches away. Civilians even run into the corner and cower with their backs to you in the alien campaign, clearly waiting to be harvested rather than making an authentic attempt to escape.

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The marine campaign avoids some of these pratfalls, instead falling victim only to its own lack of ambition. After the first excellent levels, the lights get turned on and rarely go off, and everything becomes tepid and ordinary. It turns out to be just another everyday shooter checking off the old cliches; like in so many other shooters, you're a rookie learning the ropes, guided by the voice of an unseen comrade, a device the game loves so much, it uses it twice.

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The attention to detail, the well-considered level design, and the sense of momentum that characterize the finest shooters are missing here.

5.5
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: dark1x on February 15, 2010, 03:00:30 PM
It's a shame that it ended up rather mediocre, but really, it's Rebellion here.  They haven't produced a worthwhile game in ages and I didn't expect that would suddenly change with this new title.  At least it seems to be better than Rogue Warrior, which was just pathetic.

To be fair, it's probably the best AvP game they've made yet as the others have aged rather poorly.  Of course, those games were better than this during their respective release time frame...
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 15, 2010, 03:04:22 PM
Some Swedish PC gaming site gave it a 2/5

+ Three campaigns
+ Promising multiplayer (they couldn't test it, since no one was online)   

- Repetitive
- Short campaign
- Outdated (or old fashioned)
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 15, 2010, 03:06:05 PM
Gamespot is for losers anyway.But the game is not going to get stellar scores,expect 5-8,9 range,i am curious what the pc magazines will think of it.
Btw,i am replaying Predator campaign for the third time,there is just something magical in fighting(butchering) hordes of aliens,marines.

Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 15, 2010, 04:34:23 PM
played a 3-person deathmatch in the multiplayer demo. Can't say much about the level design, but the match was tense - had me looking around corners for the predator, and the way the sound echoes when there is a nearby firefight is nice touch that scares and psychs you up at the same time.

Eerie atmosphere is pretty much all this game has going for it.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 16, 2010, 08:47:09 AM
Here are some scores,not that i care about scores,but it will be a very polarizing game
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•Empire Magazine 4/5
•Game Informer 5.75/10
•Gamers.AT 81%
•Seraphic Gaming 8.6/10
•OXM UK 8/10
•IGN UK 8.5/10
•Techdigest.TV 4/5
•PC Zone 82%
•Bit-Tech 7/10
•Polymania 3+/5
•GameReactor 6/10
•Everyeye.it 7.5/10
•Gamez.nl 86/100
•Jeuxactu.com 7/10 (SP)
•Games.Tiscali 7/10
•Gram.pl 4/6
•GamingXP.com 84%
•Gamespot 5.5/10
•Fz.se 2/5
•Eurogamer.it 7/10
•PC Powerplay 7/10
•PS3bloggen.se 60/100
•OXM AUS 9/10
•Burn360.net 3/5
•Multiplayer.it 7.2/10
•Meristation 7.5/10
•Original Gamer 6.5/10
•PSM3 91%
•OXPM 90%
•OPM 90%
•GI (Aus) 8.7/10

There is just something that makes me play it more and more,despite all its problems and outdated mission design.Its just that every time i rip marine head off or break alien on my knee,there is a big smile on my face :D
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Third on February 16, 2010, 11:20:06 AM
You just seem to have shitty taste.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 16, 2010, 11:21:59 AM
Yeah, what Third said. Those scores are pretty mediocre. Looks like bargain bin material.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 16, 2010, 11:36:50 AM
You just seem to have shitty taste.
At least i don't play Wii games,like you.
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Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 16, 2010, 11:39:34 AM
I guess the latest excuse is "so what if SP is buggy and sucky, it's all about MP anyway," in regards to an Aliens game. I mean what the fuck is going on.

Anyway, I've come to the realization that MMaRsu and slasher_thrasher on GAF are better reference points than any review. If either of those two are burning brightly for a game with poor or "mixed" reviews, then it pretty much deserves the lower scores.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 16, 2010, 12:43:59 PM
I guess the latest excuse is "so what if SP is buggy and sucky, it's all about MP anyway," in regards to an Aliens game. I mean what the fuck is going on.

Anyway, I've come to the realization that MMaRsu and slasher_thrasher on GAF are better reference points than any review. If either of those two are burning brightly for a game with poor or "mixed" reviews, then it pretty much deserves the lower scores.
To be fair most of the time SP feels like playing MP with dumb marines and vicious alien horde,from predator perspective.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: FatalT on February 16, 2010, 04:48:22 PM
I bought it for 360. Multiplayer is so fucking fun.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 16, 2010, 05:53:55 PM
I hammered AvsP2 multiplayer and loved it, i assume we have similar modes in this one ?

I know this is probably going to be poop on a disk, but as a sucker for Aliens i'll probably give it a whirl.

See, this is precisely why I'm staying away. I really don't think I have it in me to experience a Rebellion AvP game first hand. I also strongly recall feeling that AvP2 was a massive improvement on a buggy and slightly shitty first stab at it by Rebellion.

Anyway, so the survival mode only has two fucking maps?
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 16, 2010, 06:01:23 PM
Two maps, and more through DLC!

Is that correct, maxy?
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 16, 2010, 06:28:45 PM
Yes,only two maps.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: ManaByte on February 16, 2010, 06:46:58 PM
TWO MAPS?
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 16, 2010, 06:52:05 PM
Yes for single player survival mode,dont know about online.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: dark1x on February 17, 2010, 08:28:28 AM
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Need to play Deadliest Catch first though to lessen my expectations some more. Went into Biocock after Mass Effect and was "uh, yeah, right, whatever! mehfest"
Damn, man, you are jaded as hell.  :P 

Unfortunately, I'm slowly getting there as well.  :\
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Cravis on February 17, 2010, 08:55:38 AM
A game that's "polarizing" is almost always a bad game. The group of reviewers that grade it less harshly usually ignore the obvious and glaring flaws of the title due to their blinding love for the source material, characters, or plot.

It's really not that hard to like a bad game but that shouldn't excuse poor gameplay because you happen to really like a certain spiky haired dough-eyed character, for example.
I'm loving this game for the exact above reason, I love the source material. Despite it's flaws it nails the atmosphere and feeling of the films.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 17, 2010, 10:48:55 AM
There's this dude on GAF that keeps posting these god awful shots of the PC version at max, and he seems to in all seriousness believe that they look amazing.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: dark1x on February 17, 2010, 11:22:47 AM
Ha ha, I suppose I can see where you're coming from.  I enjoy most games as well, even those with shitty framerates and other problems (though my enjoyment DOES decrease when that is the case).  I just enjoy bitching on message boards.  :P  Positive comments rarely receive replies and threads end up going nowhere.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: pilonv1 on February 17, 2010, 05:33:35 PM
Impossible Mission on the C64 (well, the DS, but i'm playing it in full retro mode)

The amount of hours I put into this game as a child would be sickening to most people. It's such an awesome game.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: pilonv1 on February 17, 2010, 07:43:09 PM
:lol fuck no. I'd always get about 75% of rooms on the map, and a few pieces of the puzzle but never got that far. No matter how frustrating it got I always loved it.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 18, 2010, 02:03:22 AM
Oh damn

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998&p=4

1up is ripping the early 2010 games apart  :lol
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: FatalT on February 18, 2010, 02:37:06 PM
Why the fuck can I block goddamn predator BLADES with my bare hands? Who thought this was a good idea?

The people balancing the game.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Cravis on February 18, 2010, 04:54:30 PM
Why the fuck can I block goddamn predator BLADES with my bare hands? Who thought this was a good idea?
Yeah it balances the game. It would be a little unfair for a single species' melee to be unblockable. That's like saying "Why the fuck can I block Zelda's sword in Smash Brothers!!??"

I bet you'd be bitching about why you can't block the Predator blades if they were unblockable.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 18, 2010, 06:03:11 PM
On hard blocking wont help you much,but you will be blocked a lot.

Edit:Review score wars

CVG-8/10

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=235279 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=235279)

Damn,its from OXM... :lol...fail
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 19, 2010, 02:49:21 PM
"The game offers a variety of different multiplayer modes, too, but on the 360 version, it was often hard to find players. You may have to wait around for five or 10 minutes before collecting enough players to get a game started."

what
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: FatalT on February 19, 2010, 03:14:55 PM
"The game offers a variety of different multiplayer modes, too, but on the 360 version, it was often hard to find players. You may have to wait around for five or 10 minutes before collecting enough players to get a game started."

what

The longest I've waited for a match is a minute.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: ManaByte on February 19, 2010, 03:18:41 PM
Oh damn

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998&p=4

1up is ripping the early 2010 games apart  :lol

It's Tom Chick. He'd give a Megan Fox Blowjob simulator a bad review just to be an idiot.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 19, 2010, 03:29:08 PM
Oh damn

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998&p=4

1up is ripping the early 2010 games apart  :lol

It's Tom Chick. He'd give a Megan Fox Blowjob simulator a bad review just to be an idiot.

Tom Chick is a gentleman and a scholar, Megan Fox is a syphilitic whore, and you? You're Manabyte.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 19, 2010, 03:31:20 PM
Gerstmann rated it low as well, and he's an icon of honesty and integrity in gaming journalism. At least that's what people claim when ripping on Gamespot reviews these days.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 19, 2010, 03:35:55 PM
Bah,Gerstmann is just fat,but that is 8)
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: maxy on February 22, 2010, 05:38:57 AM
UK sales,fastest selling 2010 game,Xbox 360 accounted for 58 per cent of sales, with 32 per cent falling to PS3 and nine per cent on PC,without steam

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    1              ALIENS VS PREDATOR     XB360     SEGA     SEGA
    2              JUST DANCE    WII    UBISOFT    UBISOFT
    3              ALIENS VS PREDATOR    PS3    SEGA    SEGA
    4              NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII    WII    NINTENDO    NINTENDO
    5              BIOSHOCK 2    XB360    2K GAMES    TAKE 2
    6              WII SPORTS RESORT    WII    NINTENDO    NINTENDO
    7              WII FIT PLUS    WII    NINTENDO    NINTENDO
    8              ALIENS VS PREDATOR    PC    SEGA    SEGA

 :D
 :bow Predator :bow2
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: brawndolicious on February 22, 2010, 06:17:12 AM
Gerstmann rated it low as well, and he's an icon of honesty and integrity in gaming journalism. At least that's what people claim when ripping on Gamespot reviews these days.
The dude's Kane & Lynch video review (the one that got him fired) didn't even show anything past the 10 minute tutorial level actually.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: dark1x on February 22, 2010, 07:20:43 AM
I played some AvP on the PC yesterday and actually thought it was decent.  It has some issues for sure, but isn't completely awful.  It basically feels a lot like Doom 3 meets FEAR 2 with Aliens, though, at least during the early marine levels.  It pretty much holds 60 fps on my PC, so it feels good.  Love the motion blur when turning in addition to all the first person body movement stuff (kind of like FEAR 2 or Killzone 2).  It does not simply feel like a rehash of the 1999 game, as I was expecting. 

I can see it falling flat, however, as I was growing weary of the game after an hour and quit.  It looks really good on my Kuro plasma, though.  I kind of wonder if the visual design was wrong for a modern game, though, as it looks like dogshit on my LCD in the other room (2009 Samsung).  Shadows permeate each and every scene and the majority of displays people are using will produce poor results with this game, I'd imagine.

Haven't run into any bugs yet, which is a surprise.  It's definitely light years beyond Rogue Warrior.

Gerstmann rated it low as well, and he's an icon of honesty and integrity in gaming journalism. At least that's what people claim when ripping on Gamespot reviews these days.
The dude's Kane & Lynch video review (the one that got him fired) didn't even show anything past the 10 minute tutorial level actually.
I doubt he assembled the footage.  His achievements (for the account he used for review) prove that he played through it, however.  I'm surprised anyone would think that he played no further than the first ten minutes, though.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: brawndolicious on February 22, 2010, 05:07:34 PM
I doubt he assembled the footage.  His achievements (for the account he used for review) prove that he played through it, however.  I'm surprised anyone would think that he played no further than the first ten minutes, though.
It is possible that he finished the game but it was still a very poor review imo.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: pilonv1 on February 22, 2010, 05:39:09 PM
I had a copy show up yesterday and within seconds offloaded it to a co-worker. Would prefer just to laugh at the EBers playing it.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: dark1x on February 22, 2010, 06:39:17 PM
I doubt he assembled the footage.  His achievements (for the account he used for review) prove that he played through it, however.  I'm surprised anyone would think that he played no further than the first ten minutes, though.
It is possible that he finished the game but it was still a very poor review imo.
Not inaccurate, however.  Mirrors how I felt at least.  :\
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: GilloD on February 23, 2010, 12:32:16 AM
Gerstmann rated it low as well, and he's an icon of honesty and integrity in gaming journalism. At least that's what people claim when ripping on Gamespot reviews these days.
The dude's Kane & Lynch video review (the one that got him fired) didn't even show anything past the 10 minute tutorial level actually.

Truth. He should've been fired for not doing his fucking job. That review was packed with innacuracies, it was really clear that he didn't play the thing to start with. Gamespot made it worse and I like Giantbomb just fine, but to act like the guy is the fucking Joseph Pulitzer of the format is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: duckman2000 on February 23, 2010, 01:55:04 AM
I think you dudes might have sorta missed the point of my comment there.
Title: Re: Aliens VS Predator
Post by: brawndolicious on February 23, 2010, 04:59:03 AM
we didn't miss it, we avoided your point.