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Title: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 30, 2010, 12:44:15 PM
Time to get the ball rolling.

Nominations are being announced today.

EDIT: Full list of nominees here: http://thefilmstage.com/2010/02/01/2010-oscar-nominations/ (http://thefilmstage.com/2010/02/01/2010-oscar-nominations/)

Best Picture

Avatar
The Blind Side
District 9
An Education
The Hurt Locker
Inglourious Basterds
Precious
A Serious Man
Up
Up In The Air

Best Director

Lee Daniels (Precious)
Jason Reitman (Up in the Air)
James Cameron (Avatar)
Katherine Bigelow (The Hurt Locker)
Quentin Tarantino (Inglorious Basterds)

Best Actor

Jeff Bridges (Crazy Heart)
George Clooney (Up in the Air)
Colin Firth (A Single Man)
Morgan Freeman (Invictus)
Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker)

Best Actress

Sandra Bullock, "The Blind Side"
Helen Mirren, "The Last Station"
Carey Mulligan, "An Education"
Gabourey Sidibe, "Precious"
Meryl Streep, "Julie & Julia"

Best Supporting Actress

Penelope Cruz (Nine)
Vera Farmiga (Up in the Air)
Maggie Gyllenhaal (Crazy Heart)
Anna Kendrick (Up in the Air)
Monique (Precious)

Best Supporting Actor

Matt Damon (Invictus)
Woody Harrelson (The Messenger)
Christopher Plummer (The Last Station)
Stanley Tucci (The Lovely Bones)
Cristoph Waltz (Inglorious Basterds)

Best Animated Feature

Coraline
Fantastic Mr. Fox
The Princess and The Frog
Up

Original Screenplay

"Inglourious Basterds"
"The Hurt Locker"
"The Messenger"
"A Serious Man"
"Up"

Best Writing – Adapted Screenplay

District 9
An Education
In The Loop
Precious
Up In The Air

Best Foreign Language Film

"Ajami" (Israel)
"El Secreto de Sus Ojos" (Argentina)
"The Milk of Sorrow" (Peru)
"Un Prophete" (France)
"The White Ribbon" (Germany)
Title: Re: Official Countdown to the Oscars thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 02, 2010, 08:52:45 AM
The Road got snubbed? ;_;
Title: Re: Official Countdown to the Oscars thread
Post by: tiesto on February 02, 2010, 08:55:07 AM
No Ponyo for "best animated picture"? Not that it was my favorite Miyazaki movie by any stretch, but surprised at its absence...
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 02, 2010, 09:13:53 AM
Glad to see Up break through the glass ceiling.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 02, 2010, 09:16:27 AM
10 Best Picture noms seems dumb. How about 7?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Diunx on February 02, 2010, 10:12:55 AM
The Road got snubbed? ;_;

That movie was shit.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 02, 2010, 10:14:52 AM
The Road got snubbed? ;_;

That movie was shit.

LIKE WHAT'S ON YO' UPPER LIP
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Robo on February 02, 2010, 10:17:29 AM
I had to click the link to be sure Green Shinobi wasn't trollin' with those Avatar noms.  He wasn't.  :-\
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Third on February 02, 2010, 10:20:18 AM
Avatar in the best movie category? Did Cameron moneyhat the Oscars with all the Avatar money he's made?

The movie was good. But definitely not oscar worthy.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Robo on February 02, 2010, 10:21:42 AM
I'm throwing my lot behind The Hurt Locker and Tarantino. :rock
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 10:22:01 AM
I had to click the link to be sure Green Shinobi wasn't trollin' with those Avatar noms.  He wasn't.  :-\

It was pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point. The only thing I can say is that the lack of writing or acting nominations shows how shallow that Best Picture nomination truly is.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 10:22:37 AM
I'm throwing my lot behind The Hurt Locker and Tarantino. :rock

I believe Bigelow won the Director's Guild award, which makes her the front runner. I really hope she wins.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Third on February 02, 2010, 10:27:25 AM
The Hurt Locker was amazing. It deserves to win something.

The only win I know is in the Best Animated Feature. UP will win that for sure. Hell, it's the only animation flick (does Avatar count?) in the Best Picture list.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Diunx on February 02, 2010, 10:28:22 AM
Why are you guys complaining about the awesome Avatar instead of shit like the blind side and up in the air.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 10:29:25 AM
Yeah, if they're going to start nominating animated films in the Best Picture category, the Best Animated Feature category needs to be axed. It pretty much gives whatever animated film nominated for Best Picture a consolation prize.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Third on February 02, 2010, 10:30:12 AM
Avatar is the Wii of the movie industry.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 10:30:15 AM
Why are you guys complaining about the awesome Avatar instead of shit like the blind side and up in the air.

... because Up in the Air is actually good? And if you're going to nominate popcorn flicks, why not sappy sentimental garbage? Avatar has changed everything.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Eric P on February 02, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
so this 10 picture nom thing didn't work out that well, did it?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 02, 2010, 10:32:29 AM
The OP is missing one of the nominations for Best Animated Feature: The Secret of Kells.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 10:32:43 AM
For Hollywood, it worked out great. The Oscars nominations can now be wielded as proper promotional tools for all the majors, not just indie flicks and deserving films.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 02, 2010, 10:37:14 AM
Some people on GAF predicated 500 Days of Summer would be nominated for Best Picture :teehee
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: Jinfash Akbar
This should be Tarantino's year.

Nah. If there is going to be a spoiler, it'll be Bigelow, but it remains to be seen if the Academy will give the award to a woman. Otherwise, prepare for more king of the world antics.

So which awards can we turn to now for some movie circle jerking?

The Oscars have lost a lot of legitimacy in the past decade or so, this is pretty much the final nail in the coffin. The Internet is so saturated with film discussion that I think most of these awards are irrelevant at this point. The serious stuff will be doled out by the individual guilds from now on.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 02, 2010, 10:46:42 AM
This nomination reminded me of this picture Maddox made. Because this is what the Academy is doing nominating Avatar, except they are actually pissing on their own grave.

Avatar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juno.

Only with more ">>>>>" But I didn't want you guys to have to scroll.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 02, 2010, 10:47:49 AM
Avatar in the best movie category? Did Cameron moneyhat the Oscars with all the Avatar money he's made?

The movie was good. But definitely not oscar worthy.

You know who disagrees with that? The voters. :smug
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Ichirou on February 02, 2010, 10:47:53 AM
I used to be a pretty rabid Oscar follower but I don't really care anymore.  The movies I truly enjoy rarely get nominated.

Moon didn't get a single nomination. :shrug

BTW, I just noticed the OP links to The Film Stage.  Shake used to write for that site till he had some sort of falling-out with them. :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mupepe on February 02, 2010, 10:50:18 AM
Some people on GAF predicated 500 Days of Summer would be nominated for Best Picture :teehee
:lol :lol :lol

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I really, REALLY don't get the love for this movie.  It was boring as shit.  And I love whiny emo movies.
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Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 02, 2010, 10:52:48 AM
You're so impressionable Green Shinobi, I thought you had more life experience then to be swept away by such a movie. But it seems you experience stuff and learn nothing.

I thought the people in old folks' homes would have more life experience than to be swept away by the Wii, but we all saw how that turned out.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Robo on February 02, 2010, 10:53:06 AM
I loved the hell out of (500) Days of Summer.  Maybe it's because I'm a whiny, underachieving poofter and I love The Smiths.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2010, 10:56:12 AM
The only categories that I really follow are the Foreign Language, Documentary, Director, and Screenplay categories. I'm indifferent to everything else.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Barry Egan on February 02, 2010, 10:58:45 AM
AVATAR winning the Oscar will be a big win for Green Shinobi's noble quest to lower film standards.  Good luck for you and your cause on Oscar night, GS!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 11:00:23 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Beezy on February 02, 2010, 11:02:00 AM
Some people on GAF predicated 500 Days of Summer would be nominated for Best Picture :teehee
BrandNew?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 02, 2010, 11:03:15 AM
But film standards were already lowered when Crash won, amirite? :smug

Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 11:03:17 AM
"In a surprise twist, the Academy announced a startling eleventh nomination for (500) Days of Summer - although, only ironically."
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2010, 11:06:16 AM
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Best Documentary Feature

Burma VJ

The Cove

Food, Inc.

The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers

Which Way Home” Rebecca Cammisa

I've seen Most Dangerous Man in America, The Cove and Food, Inc. I don't think other two played here in Seattle.

Food, Inc. is up on Netflix Streaming if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Barry Egan on February 02, 2010, 11:07:41 AM
But film standards were already lowered when Crash won, amirite? :smug

Just another worthy contribution to the cause of course.  Just think, in ten or twenty years "nerdy scientist guy" really could be indicative of a top tier film!  Oh, what a treat the cinema will be on that day.    
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 11:08:23 AM
And the winner for Best Picture is...

Ow, My Balls 2!!!!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 11:08:57 AM
Where is BrandNew, by the way?
Has he showed up after the joke ban?

Yeah, a few times. He got upset that we made fun of him in the Conan thread for crying and stuff. So he's staying on GAF, where everyone is a bit more... sensitive.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 02, 2010, 11:14:52 AM
ITT, bitter tears because the Academy didn't agree with certain members' personal assessments.  :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2010, 11:17:28 AM
Glad to see Up break through the glass ceiling.

Beauty and the Beast broke through the glass ceiling long ago when there were only five films nominated for best picture.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 02, 2010, 11:21:10 AM
Glad to see Up break through the glass ceiling.

Beauty and the Beast broke through the glass ceiling long ago when there were only five films nominated for best picture.

I know, but several very worthy films have been snubbed since then. And Best Animated Film was basically a reaction to the Beauty and the Beast nomination.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: ManaByte on February 02, 2010, 11:26:01 AM
If there's any justice in this world District 9 or the Hurt Locker will win best picture. But Cameron blows so many voting members, there's no chance of that.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 02, 2010, 11:26:49 AM
ITT, bitter tears because the Academy didn't agree with certain members' personal assessments.  :lol

:greenshinobi
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Barry Egan on February 02, 2010, 11:36:02 AM
ITT, bitter tears because the Academy didn't agree with certain members' personal assessments.  :lol


:greenshinobi - Hmmm, the characterization in this film is slightly above the level of styrofoam packaging...   


:greenshinobi - Where's the Oscar Wheelbarrow! Give this film its Oscar!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Eric P on February 02, 2010, 11:40:13 AM


The Blind Side nominated for Best Picture. Because (500) Days of Summer, Star Trek, In the Loop, The White Ribbon, The Fantastic Mr. Fox etc. etc. were not.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Oscar-Nominations-10-Things-To-Love-And-Five-Things-To-Hate-16846.html

star trek?

really?

really.

REALLY?

come on?

REALLY?

Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 02, 2010, 11:48:04 AM
I had to google The Blind Side to refresh my memory on what movie it was and holy shit I can't believe its nominated for Best Picture :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2010, 11:51:42 AM
Blind Side is the only best picture nomination I haven't seen. That's not changing any time soon.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 02, 2010, 12:05:40 PM
Hope Inglorious Bastards wins everything it was nominated for
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Eric P on February 02, 2010, 12:06:08 PM
of COURSE the blind side was nominated

it was Whitey Helpin Minorities
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on February 02, 2010, 12:06:12 PM
Monsters VS. Aliens wasn't nominated for best animated feature? Is there an anti-Dreamworks bias in that category?  :'(
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: ManaByte on February 02, 2010, 12:09:05 PM
Star Trek was much better than Avatar...and it came from the TRANSFORMERS writers.

I saw Star Trek four times in theaters, once in IMAX.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: drew on February 02, 2010, 12:09:53 PM
the hurt locker and district 9 were the best movies of the year

if you think anything else then you are wrong
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2010, 12:11:11 PM
Monsters VS. Aliens wasn't nominated for best animated feature? Is there an anti-Dreamworks bias in that category?  :'(

Monsters vs. Aliens was horrible. I watched on a flight back from Hawaii over the summer, so incredibly bad.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 02, 2010, 12:20:22 PM
Avatar will win the big awards I bet, like best pic and director.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: drew on February 02, 2010, 12:23:05 PM
yeah but it shouldnt
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Diunx on February 02, 2010, 12:26:27 PM
Star Trek was much better than Avatar...and it came from the TRANSFORMERS writers.

I saw Star Trek four times in theaters, once in IMAX.

lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: brawndolicious on February 02, 2010, 01:11:18 PM
The only good Best Picture nominees (that I've seen) are Up, Up in the Air, D9, and The Hurt Locker.  Obviously The Hurt Locker should win out of those.

Fantastic Mr. Fox was great but Up and Coraline were both much better.  I think Coraline had better animation but  I personally liked Up more.  Edit: Holy shit why didn't 9 get a nomination?  That was great too.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: brawndolicious on February 02, 2010, 01:24:37 PM
But film standards were already lowered when Crash won, amirite? :smug
I would actually agree that you're right.  Crash WAS a worse film overall than Avatar.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Bloodwake on February 02, 2010, 02:58:09 PM
Wow, fucking ten movies?

Anyways, I already saw the bitch about Half-Blood Prince being nominated for Best Cinematography. It did deserve some recognition, considering the cinematography in that film was awesome and better than the previous standout in the series, Prisoner of Azkaban.

Other than that, I still have quite a lot of these films to see. I've seen District 9, Up, Avatar (lol, please god don't win) Inglorious Basterds, and Up in the Air. My favorites out of those would probably be District 9 and Inglorious Basterds, although I can't really be upset if Up wins, since that film is pretty amazing as well.

Next on the list is The Hurt Locker, since it's on blu-ray.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 02, 2010, 03:38:28 PM
man, Hurt Locker is coming on Blu. Can't wait to watch it.

also, Avatar is shit. But still not as bad as Book of Eli, which was horrible.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 02, 2010, 03:44:10 PM
:bow up in the air :bow2
:bow in the loop :bow2
:bow the hurt locker :bow2

:lol avatar :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Diunx on February 02, 2010, 03:45:42 PM
:bow up in the air :bow2

:yuck
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 02, 2010, 04:00:19 PM
Its as if The Academy is using the expanded selection to shill for high profile movies that have no right being nominated (well, more than they once were able to, I mean... The Blindside.. really?). And Avatar is totally going to be this years Beyonce.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 02, 2010, 04:09:01 PM
I'll die if I ever hear "All the Single Ladies" ever again  :'(
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Robo on February 02, 2010, 04:15:21 PM
I thought A Serious Man was pretty dang good.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 02, 2010, 04:17:12 PM
A Serious Man is a really good movie. Definitely go check it out if you can.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 02, 2010, 04:19:24 PM
A Serious Man is stupendous, probably the most Oscar-worthy 2009 movie I saw. Hurt Locker will win tho.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Raban on February 02, 2010, 04:20:09 PM
I thought A Serious Man was pretty dang good.

I want this movie to win best picture, but No Country was the Coens' one-hit wonder at the Academy. I don't think they're ever getting another one.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 02, 2010, 04:21:37 PM
I thought A Serious Man was pretty dang good.

I want this movie to win best picture, but No Country was the Coens' one-hit wonder at the Academy. I don't think they're ever getting another one.

Yiddish Policeman's Union. Believe.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 02, 2010, 04:24:28 PM
Yeah, check out Serious Man and tell us if fucking Sy Ableman isn't the most sly, slimy and devious antagonist put to film last year. The worst thing is, he's totally believable as a character.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Raban on February 02, 2010, 04:25:37 PM
Man I loved A Serious Man so much. It hit it out of the park on every possible level, personally. Every Coen film does.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 02, 2010, 04:31:37 PM
man, I hate Sy Abelman so fucking much. What an utterly repulsive individual.


Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 02, 2010, 04:32:08 PM
I don't think I've hated a villain this much since the velociraptors in Jurassic Park.  :greenshinobi
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 02, 2010, 04:35:20 PM
Yeah, check out Serious Man and tell us if fucking Sy Ableman isn't the most sly, slimy and devious antagonist put to film last year. The worst thing is, he's totally believable as a character.

[youtube=560,345]47pnIvCGZsI[/youtube]
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2010, 04:43:14 PM
A Serious Man is stupendous, probably the most Oscar-worthy 2009 movie I saw. Hurt Locker will win tho.

White Ribbon deserved some recognition outside the Foreign Language category. Oh well.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 04:47:24 PM
Just got off a conference call with a friend who is working on set right now, and the reaction is pretty hysterical. :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Bacchus7 on February 02, 2010, 05:27:03 PM
A Serious Man is stupendous, probably the most Oscar-worthy 2009 movie I saw. Hurt Locker will win tho.

White Ribbon deserved some recognition outside the Foreign Language category. Oh well.

Any chance you know of anywhere where I can stream it online? German version's fine.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 02, 2010, 05:34:33 PM
I don't think I've hated a villain this much since the velociraptors in Jurassic Park.

Yeah, those motherfuckers were vicious, weren't they?

Just got off a conference call with a friend who is working on set right now, and the reaction is pretty hysterical. :lol

They read your spec script?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 02, 2010, 05:46:00 PM
totally

still not as bad as Sy Ableman *shudder*
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: brawndolicious on February 02, 2010, 05:50:19 PM
Is A Serious Man better than Burn After Reading?  Random question but I'm just curious.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 02, 2010, 05:55:51 PM
Just my opinion, but Anton Chigurgh > velociraptors > Sy.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 05:56:44 PM
They read your spec script?

Why would a camera operator read my script ???
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2010, 05:59:07 PM
A Serious Man is stupendous, probably the most Oscar-worthy 2009 movie I saw. Hurt Locker will win tho.

White Ribbon deserved some recognition outside the Foreign Language category. Oh well.

Any chance you know of anywhere where I can stream it online? German version's fine.

Nope. Saw it in the theater.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: brawndolicious on February 02, 2010, 06:05:46 PM
Just my opinion, but Anton Chigurgh > velociraptors > Sy.
Well anton's a psychopath.  He's not bad so much as he is indifferent.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 02, 2010, 06:11:32 PM
Just my opinion, but Anton Chigurgh > velociraptors > Sy.


Chigurgh: *tosses coin* Call it.

Sy: Anton, this is childish. Surely you have a greater purpose in life. Tossing coins won't bring back your dead mother.

Chigurgh: wut?

Sy: All I'm saying is that you should seek professional help. Here's a nice Jewish psychiatrist I know *hands him card*. Why don't you go see him. I'm sure you'll feel better after a few visits.

Chigurgh: huh?

Sy: Look, do it for the kids. Can't you see your poor wife is suffering?

Chigurgh: o- okay

-Sy gives him his trademark, disarming, repugnant hug -
(http://mimg.ugo.com/200912/12484/cuts/sy-ableman_288x288.JPG)
**

cut to Sy banging Chigurgh's wife while he's at the doctor's. At some point in the future Chigurgh will suicide, therefore Sy >>>>> Chigurgh
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 02, 2010, 06:19:57 PM
Is A Serious Man better than Burn After Reading?  Random question but I'm just curious.

I haven't seen A Serious Man, but yes.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 02, 2010, 06:32:58 PM
holy crap, "a serious man" sounds like an awesome coen effort. MUST SEE
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2010, 06:40:34 PM
A Serious Man is great, saw if last Fall in the theater. I think it comes out on video pretty soon.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 02, 2010, 06:47:05 PM
the trick about A Serious Man is that it's A Serious Coen Movie, which makes sense they'd return to that well after Burn After Reading. Everyone seemed to think A Serious Man was a comedy, but it's only funny in the way that Kafka is funny, or more concretely, the way God's behavior in the Old Testament is funny. But since Prole is a.k.a. The Wrathful God of Moses, he'll definitely appreciate it.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 02, 2010, 06:48:57 PM
Kafka and YHWH are hilarious, don't get me wrong! But they are also an endless, existential nightmare from which there is no explanation and no escape.

Spoiler-mageddon for A Serious Man!: http://explodingkinetoscope.blogspot.com/2009/10/secret-test-serious-man-2009.html

Must-read analysis (http://explodingkinetoscope.blogspot.com/2009/10/secret-test-serious-man-2009.html) that helped me clear up a lot of my thoughts on the movie and cemented it as part of the Coen Brothers' top tier.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 02, 2010, 06:55:34 PM
Friday Night Lights was legitmately good. Remember the Titans on the other hand...
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 07:04:52 PM
There are about three or four other films that deserve nominations over three of the nominees, but Green Shinobi just had to continue his quest to lower cinema standards. I hope he is happy.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 02, 2010, 07:51:02 PM
the way God's behavior in the Old Testament is funny

That's the best way to describe the film, honestly.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: EvilBoris on February 02, 2010, 07:57:47 PM
 Joaquin Phoenix - Two Lovers (he's clean shaven now it's ok!)
 Abbie Cornish - Bright Star
 Hal Holbrook - That Evening Sun
 CAGE - Bad Lieutenant

 !MISSING!

 what groups make up the hollywood foreign press anyway?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 02, 2010, 09:35:30 PM
What fuck? I don't even. A best actress nom? a best picture nom? This is a really bad joke.

Looks like, if your movie does well at the box office, you'll get noms regardless of the quality. :smug

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Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 02, 2010, 10:17:35 PM
I'm sure Avatar's resounding success with critics and audiences had nothing to do with its nomination. :smug

I'm sure Avatar's re$ounding $uce$$ had a lot to do with it. :smug
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 02, 2010, 10:30:58 PM
I can't believe I just spelled "won" as "one". I blame the Blind Side, white America, the Academy, and Green Shinobi for lowering the bar.

Whatever issues you think I may have as a poster, subpar English grammar and spelling are not included among them, you fucking Saudi.

Green Shinobi throws The Blind Side, white America, and the Academy under the bus :'(
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: Raban on February 02, 2010, 10:32:25 PM
I can't believe I just spelled "won" as "one". I blame the Blind Side, white America, the Academy, and Green Shinobi for lowering the bar.

Whatever issues you think I may have as a poster, subpar English grammar and spelling are not included among them, you fucking Saudi.

Don't hate on the brownies :mideastcry
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 02, 2010, 10:36:04 PM
Someone is about to get jinfash'd

edit: too slow!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: GilloD on February 02, 2010, 10:45:46 PM
Up in the Air is fucking awful. It's seriously the worst movie I've seen in years. bububububb it has a seeerious ending bububu. What a snooze.

Between this an Juno, I'm convinced Jaosn Reitman has never been in an adult relationship.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 02, 2010, 10:46:52 PM
Green Shinobi is off the reservation!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: GilloD on February 02, 2010, 10:47:15 PM
What the fuck are you talking about? Unless you consider yourself Korean, Cormac Japanese and GilloD Thai, I'm not Saudi.

And I'm from New Jersey!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: Mandark on February 02, 2010, 10:54:53 PM
Not my fault the reference went over your head.

Oh no sir, judging from your last post or two, you have NO idea how many references went over YOUR head if you just referred to me as Saudi or religious :lol

Wow, I feel like I'm obligated to clear more things out, even if it goes against this forum's rules: nobody on the bore is gay, and bebpo is not Asian!

Omerta!   :maf
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 02, 2010, 10:56:04 PM
nobody on the bore is gay

Lies. Ugly lies.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 02, 2010, 10:59:57 PM
nobody on the bore is gay

Lies. Ugly lies.

Jinfash is always trying to push the heterosexual agenda
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 02, 2010, 11:01:10 PM
nobody on the bore is gay

Lies. Ugly lies.

Jinfash is always trying to push the heterosexual agenda

Typical Saudi.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 02, 2010, 11:02:05 PM
10 years form now, Hollywood will probably do a 3D / CGI remake of The Blindside for its 10th Anniversary
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 11:25:05 PM
When did I get owned, the only thing I see annihilated is the Academy's credibility ???
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 02, 2010, 11:29:13 PM
Wait, we've now got TWO threads talking about Avatar now? Demi, please delete the Real Talk forum like you did with that FFXIII thread.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of nominations worse than Crash and Juno
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 11:30:49 PM
I believe the majority of the angst here is directed at the Academy for more than just than the Avatar nomination (the last page has been about The Blind Side), which was pretty bad. Take your Avatar apologist talk elsewhere, Great Rumbler!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 02, 2010, 11:32:16 PM
Up in the Air is fucking awful. It's seriously the worst movie I've seen in years. bububububb it has a seeerious ending bububu. What a snooze.
Between this an Juno, I'm convinced Jaosn Reitman has never been in an adult relationship.
I wouldn't consider Up in the Air an amazing piece of cinema or anything but didn't you at least find it funny?  The ending WAS crap tho.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of nominations worse than Crash and Juno
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 02, 2010, 11:42:09 PM
This thread, and all the other Avatar threads, will be taken into account when doctors finally commit GS to a mental hospital.

The bunny doesn't exist GS. And neither does Avatar's creativity
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of nominations worse than Crash and Juno
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on February 02, 2010, 11:42:38 PM
Nice to see Pixar get a best picture nomination.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of nominations worse than Crash and Juno
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 11:43:21 PM
My grievance has less to do with Avatar, and more with the inclusion of The Blind Side and District 9 - although the Avatar nomination was pretty ridiculous. The reality is - for anyone with any industry insight - is that the wide field has to do with money rather than critical acclaim. (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/02/studios-looking-to-cash-in-on-oscar-nominations.html)

The trick was to allow the majors to cash in on Oscar nominations, and lure in the lowest common denominator with mainstream nominations. Judging by Glen's reaction, it is a rousing success!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of nominations worse than Crash and Juno
Post by: etiolate on February 02, 2010, 11:43:56 PM
There is nothing for Willco to offend. Very few film critics have any credibility. Having read the writing and opinion of most of what launders rottentomatoes, about 95% of the editorial public is either a: genre lover, socialite, hollywood wish-wash, refuse from the E channel or a trite parcel of moonbeams and rainclouds. It is rare to read a review and find anything insightful that any careful viewer would like to see explored, and even rarer that a review sheds new light on the film piece itself.


I would even say that the only difference between movie reviews and videogame reviews is that the small 5% of intelligent criticism exists at all. Beyond that, its a god damned geek out.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of nominations worse than Crash and Juno
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 11:47:26 PM
Eh, I have respect for some of the better film critics, but this was a calculated decision to pull in the MTV crowd and boost profits for the majors. Pretty much anyone inside the industry recognizes this as so. Like I said, it'll be the individual guild awards that will have the most merit here on out.

The sad thing is that a lot of smaller films were financed by majors within the past twenty years for the sole reason of cashing in on Academy nominations. Yes, it resulted in a lot of typical Oscar bait (Crash), but we got some genuinely good flicks from that run. The fact that majors can now rely on the tentpole flicks to gather nominations, means they'll be less likely to finance smaller flicks.

This is in addition to the fact that the majors were already significantly reducing the amount of films they were producing, opting to focus on tentpole flicks instead.

And really, that's not good for anyone.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of nominations worse than Crash and Juno
Post by: Mandark on February 02, 2010, 11:50:58 PM
I had completely forgotten about the expanded field of nominees.  Weird seeing it happen now when there seem to be fewer total films coming out.

But really, who's been taking the Oscars that seriously?  I've been disillusioned since L.A. Confidential got jobbed (in favor of guess who).



Having read the writing and opinion of most of what launders rottentomatoes

I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 02, 2010, 11:51:10 PM
THE BORE: Where you get the Inside Willco ScoopTM
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on February 02, 2010, 11:53:57 PM
I don't understand the shock. The inclusion of 5 more nominations was obviously to cram in some blockbusters that have no chance of winning, not nominate the next best 5 movies of the year. The Blind Side won't win, but Ma and Pa have seen it and sure liked it. Maybe they'll actually tune in.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mandark on February 02, 2010, 11:54:08 PM
Avatar still would have been nominated in a field of five.

What I'm seeing a lot of here is "critical opinion doesn't matter, but my opinion does."

As opposed to "Everyone should defer to critics when they agree with me."  Honkey please, we remember you whinging when Entourage (!!!) got left off a Best TV of the Decade list.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 02, 2010, 11:54:14 PM
I think the fact that Avatar has zero nominations in any of the acting or writing fields show you the critical consensus: it's not a very good film.

I mean - hell! - Sandra Bullock even grabbed an Oscar nomination for The Blind Side. Avatar couldn't beat that?

I think what you're seeing is that people have really been entertained by the spectacle, but the fundamentals of what truly make a Best Picture are absent. If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't have all my cherry picked positive reviews from established critics citing screenplaying/acting problems, and you'd see an original screenplay nomination or even a supporting actor nomination.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mandark on February 02, 2010, 11:55:05 PM
For Most Likeable and Lively Performance in a Non-Stock Character Role:  The Nerdy Scientist, Avatar
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 02, 2010, 11:55:34 PM
Avatar still would have been nominated in a field of five.

What I'm seeing a lot of here is "critical opinion doesn't matter, but my opinion does."



Why don't you tell us how you really feel?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Willco just got owned.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 02, 2010, 11:56:50 PM
ITT, Willco dismisses the credibility of an entire board of critics and industry professionals because they liked a movie he didn't.  :lol
Well willco already mentioned several times that in a lot of those reviews, the text contradicts the final score.  But I'll just remind you that:

1) Nobody gives a fuck about a movie review.  People care about the score on the bottom and the publisher of the review (ie:People magazine vs The New Yorker).  About the score on the review....

2) The score on a movie review is the stupidest most dumbshit way to compare any movies.  It means nothing.  There's no specific difference between a 3/5 or a 4/5.  It's such a subjective way to compare two movies. that some people assume it's objective.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:00:44 AM
I don't understand the shock. The inclusion of 5 more nominations was obviously to cram in some blockbusters that have no chance of winning, not nominate the next best 5 movies of the year. The Blind Side won't win, but Ma and Pa have seen it and sure liked it. Maybe they'll actually tune in.

I don't think anyone is as shocked, it's more like a sense of disappointment. It's like seeing a family member get out of jail, and you hope they clean their act up - only to disappoint you by stealing money from your wallet to buy drugs. You may have expected it, but it doesn't make it any less heartbreaking.

But you're exactly right, the field has been expanded to entice people to watch the ceremony with mainstream nominations. I personally think it's kind of sad, because think of all the great films people would not have seen had it not been from the exposure at the Academy Awards (which have turned limited runs into nationwide expansions). By turning it into another Golden Globes, the industry is just simply reinforcing uneducated viewers that nothing really exists outside their local cineplex.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:03:26 AM
WTF? How does A prove B? Did you ever take a logic class in your life, or even read about logic on the internet?  :lol

You're just flailing mindlessly at this point.

Yeah, because it's not like strong performances and excellent writing are fundamental elements of what usually constitutes a Best Picture nomination. You want Avatar to receive its nomination on spectacle alone, by simply ignoring what makes a good movie.

If that's the case, instead of trying to fit a round peg in a square hole, I recommend that you campaign the Academy to create a Best Amusement Park Ride-like Movie category. I think that would satisfy your desire to use other people's opinions to justify your zealotry, and then it wouldn't make the Best Picture category look like such a joke.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mandark on February 03, 2010, 12:04:20 AM
As opposed to "Everyone should defer to critics when they agree with me."  Honkey please, we remember you whinging when Entourage (!!!) got left off a Best TV of the Decade list.

That was one website's list, not an overwhelming consensus of critics and audiences.

So Titanic...?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:07:04 AM
I really hope nerdy scientist beats out velociraptors for the Special Achievement Award this year.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 03, 2010, 12:09:01 AM
For Most Likeable and Lively Performance in a Non-Stock Character Role:  The Nerdy Scientist, Avatar

:lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Barry Egan on February 03, 2010, 12:11:09 AM
For Most Likeable and Lively Performance in a Non-Stock Character Role:  The Nerdy Scientist, Avatar

:lol

Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Mandark on February 03, 2010, 12:12:59 AM
This is like the time Green Shinobi said Bruce Wayne should be awarded the John Bates Clark Medal, and recursivelyenumerable explained that 1) he's a fictional character, and 2) the award is for economists.  Then GS said "I guess you think you're better than Batman!  Besides, he's really rich and that has to do with economics."


Or the time he said he wouldn't consume meat after seeing Babe 2: Pig In the City, and demanded that PETA award him a Proggy (http://www.peta.org/feat/proggy/2008/index.asp).  He was disqualified for eating rabbit, which he said Malek told him "was some kind of really complex fungus and shit."
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:13:41 AM
I remember that :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Barry Egan on February 03, 2010, 12:18:42 AM
"Besides, he's really rich and that has to do with economics."

:greenshinobi
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 03, 2010, 12:21:41 AM
Are you saying that Avatar should be nominated for the Best Picture category based on it's cinematography alone?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:23:21 AM
What areas of importance - ones that determine if a film is truly worthy of being labelled a classic - did the critics felt Avatar succeeded in? It's obviously not writing. Or acting. I'm pretty sure Best Sense of Awe and Wonder is not an actual category.

The whole discussion is irrelevant, because the additions of District 9 and The Blind Side have rendered the argument moot. Avatar is just one of three films that were nominated to humor the lowest common denominator. I congratulate you, Glen, for your success in lowering cinema standards for future generations.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 03, 2010, 12:27:43 AM
I congratulate you, Glen, for your success in lowering cinema standards for future generations.

Now we see the problem. You wanted to be the one to lower cinema standards with Candy Land the Motion Picture.

Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 12:28:35 AM
and the award for Most Delicious Looking Cinematography goes to ... Brett Ratner! for Candy Land: The Motion Picture!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: ToxicAdam on February 03, 2010, 12:28:51 AM
Are you saying that Avatar should be nominated for the Best Picture category based on it's cinematography alone?

It's why English Patient won.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 03, 2010, 12:29:08 AM
I congratulate you, Glen, for your success in lowering cinema standards for future generations.

Now we see the problem. You wanted to be the one to lower cinema standards with Candy Land the Motion Picture.



In revolutionary 3D. Eat the glasses and be transported to a new world  :o
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:30:06 AM
Actually, Candy Land is just a leaping pad for what I was really hoping would lower cinema standards - Peggle: The Movie (soundtrack by Owl City).
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 12:30:30 AM
Candy Land is 4D

taste is the fourth dimension

that's actually the tagline
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:30:49 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 03, 2010, 12:31:24 AM
Only possible on the PS3
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:31:26 AM
That's better that studio-proposed tagline of "EAT THE FUTURE"
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 12:32:58 AM
That's better that studio-proposed tagline of "EAT THE FUTURE"

:lol

TASTE IS THE FOURTH DIMENSION :rofl

omg I'm dying here
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 12:33:08 AM
What areas of importance - ones that determine if a film is truly worthy of being labelled a classic - did the critics felt Avatar succeeded in? It's obviously not writing. Or acting. I'm pretty sure Best Sense of Awe and Wonder is not an actual category.

Since Cameron got a Best Director nomination, I'm guessing directing ins one of them.

that was a pity nom, so he doesn't hate-kill his ex-wife before she has a chance to win

the academy knows how Jim thinks
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:36:47 AM
Since Cameron got a Best Director nomination, I'm guessing directing is one of them.

Every argument for Cameron's nomination has been for technical merits, for which there are already categories for. I already voiced my opinion that he did an excellent job with production duties and camerawork, but an essential part of a director's job is, y'know, directing the actors - none of which I see any nominations for ???

Again, if the bar for Best Picture is now well-directed tentpole flicks, I think we should merge the Oscars with the MTV Movie Awards and get this over with already. I want to start plugging Candy Land while the project is hot.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:38:04 AM
I have never seen Avatar, but I did see Pocahontas. Does that count?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 12:38:53 AM
I heard from AICN that Josh Hartnett is eyeing the lead in Candy Land.  He wants some of that Shia LaBeaouf/Jake Gyllenhaal buzz.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:39:36 AM
Too bad for Josh Hartnett, because I'm leaning towards Nerdy Scientist.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 03, 2010, 12:40:13 AM
I heard Dakota Fanning might get a roll  :interracial
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:41:32 AM
Right now we're trying to hammer down a director. It's either going to be Brett Ratner or Stephen Sommers. I kind of wish we could have both.

I'm sure Federman would love to give Dakota Fanning a roll.

I was saving that character for you:

(http://www.hauntedventures.com/2007NEWTEMPLATES/NoveltyCostumes/TootsieRoll.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 12:42:19 AM
Lindsay Lohan offered to blow Willco in exchange for a role in the movie, but he played a trick on her, blindfolded her, and had her blow Kosma instead.

And now Kosma has herpes. :(
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 12:44:23 AM
Cara-Mel Gibson

and

Jennifer Lo-PEZ

in

Candy Land: The Motion Picture

This Summer...

When all is lost...

And it seems no one can save us...
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Candy Man CanTM
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Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:45:10 AM
Actually, since they both have herpes, the result was all life stopping instantaneously and every molecule in Kosma's body exploding at the speed of light.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2010, 12:47:31 AM
I'm sure Federman would love to give Dakota Fanning a roll.

Princess Loli   :teehee

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Demi for Gramma Nut.
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Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 12:50:24 AM
B-Fed, you ever think about casting yourself in Candyland as a Fudge Packer?

Awesome.  GS has been reduced to tossing around gay slurs.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:52:12 AM
This is THE BORE. That's not a gay slur here, I'm pretty sure that's his way of hitting on me.  I should have known when he nailed that fat chick. :wag
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:54:12 AM
I really hope James Cameron wins Best Actor.*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
*For pretending that Avatar was an original idea (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/6986362/Avatar-James-Cameron-rejects-plagiarism-claims.html).
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Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 12:55:31 AM
You just feel that way because nobody wants to engage in serious discussion with you.  People just enjoy mocking you. :lol

I'm going to put you on ignore again.  Every single one of your posts is absolutely worthless, even the humor value has just about run out.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 03, 2010, 12:57:22 AM
When I finally see Candy Cane Forest and Gum Drop Mountain on the big screen, I will be filled with a sense of wonder, adventure, and exploration.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:00:13 AM
You will also be filled with candy.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:02:08 AM
... How did you put him on ignore for two days when you're still reading/quoting his posts?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Mandark on February 03, 2010, 01:02:56 AM
When I finally see Candy Cane Forest and Gum Drop Mountain on the big screen, I will be filled with a sense of wonder, adventure, and exploration.

The behavior of old people proves that these are universal yearnings, like the ineffable pull of Florida when you feel your life force fading from your body.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 03, 2010, 01:03:08 AM
Quoting someone you have on Ignore?

And the award for Best Technical Accomplishment in an Online Drama goes to...
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of being easily entertained.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:04:00 AM
... Nerdy Scientist?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of being easily entertained.
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 01:05:12 AM
Green Shinobi self-annihilated yet again.  What a goof. :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of being easily entertained.
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 03, 2010, 01:05:28 AM
This reminds me of the time GS claimed to have Patel on ignore while still continuing to argue with him in The Return of the King thread! 
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of being easily entertained.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:06:40 AM
Good job, Cohen. You've now indirectly insulted every member of Academy.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of being easily entertained.
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 01:07:03 AM
This reminds me of the time GS claimed to have Patel on ignore while still continuing to argue with him in The Return of the King thread! 

I remember that.  Fucking epic ownage! :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of being easily entertained.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:07:16 AM
This reminds me of the time GS claimed to have Patel on ignore while still continuing to argue with him in The Return of the King thread! 

:rofl
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Cameron > B-Fed
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 01:08:49 AM
One good thing about having Green Shinobi around - it's like Shake never left (and never graduated high school). :rock
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of arguing against the consensus.
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 03, 2010, 01:10:26 AM
The Shake championed Borat and The Departed, both of which are vastly superior to Avatar.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Cameron > B-Fed
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 01:12:39 AM
The Shake championed Borat and The Departed, both of which are vastly superior to Avatar.

True that.  Shake has pretty awesome movie tastes.  I just meant GS and Shake are similar in the constantly getting owned over movies sense.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Cameron > B-Fed
Post by: brawndolicious on February 03, 2010, 01:13:07 AM
I think master shake was more likely to roll with the trolls.  I can't remember him getting really upset whenever somebody said he had a shitty opinion.

And is anybody else on The Black Stallion's ignore list?  Does that even make sense if he doesn't post here anymore?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Glen Shinobi self-annihilation.
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 01:14:48 AM
Whatever happened to that guy?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Glen Shinobi self-annihilation.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:15:07 AM
Run out of town.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Cameron > B-Fed
Post by: Raban on February 03, 2010, 01:15:43 AM
One good thing about having Green Shinobi around - it's like Shake never left (and never graduated high school). :rock

Having you around is like having two Powerslaves! :rock

What? Ichi is like 10 times better than Powerslave.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Glen Shinobi self-annihilation.
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 01:16:09 AM
I remember the same thing happened to him on GAF years ago.  Some admin changed his nickname to The Black Gelding. :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Glen Shinobi self-annihilation.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:16:20 AM
I think you've learned a valuable lesson about editing thread titles, Glen!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Glen Shinobi self-annihilation.
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 03, 2010, 01:16:38 AM
Willco you naughty boy. Come here so Daddy can give you a good spanking.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Glen Shinobi self-annihilation.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:16:47 AM
 :-*
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Glen Shinobi self-annihilation.
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 01:18:08 AM
I love how he keeps quoting my posts even though he claims to have had me on ignore for two days. :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Glen Shinobi self-annihilation.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:18:25 AM
Shake spammed cocks.  No abuse of power about it.

He's referring to the fact that I hijacked the original post so he (Glen Shinobi) can no longer edit the thread title.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Glen Shinobi self-annihilation.
Post by: Raban on February 03, 2010, 01:18:32 AM
This thread should be stickied and labeled "The BORE Terms of Service and FAQ" and replace the old one. Anybody who reads it will get a pretty clear idea what this forum is about.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Glen Shinobi self-annihilation.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:19:29 AM
when did I say I was classy ???
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of Glen Shinobi self-annihilation.
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 03, 2010, 01:20:45 AM
when did I say I was classy ???
This is about as classless as the time you renamed GS's old Lord of the Rings thread "The Return of the Annihilation." That didn't end well.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:22:40 AM
Hey, at least I let him have the last post before I locked it. Patel was just abusing him at that point.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Mandark on February 03, 2010, 01:27:18 AM
Anyone want to talk about movies in this thread?

I try, but this guy keeps trying to shift talk from the actual movie to how other people also liked the movie.  Wotta conundrum!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:28:02 AM
:lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: EvilBoris on February 03, 2010, 01:49:07 AM
 
I don't think Two Lovers came out in 2009. 

 
well I don't believe The Hurt Locker is a 2009 film either :shh. but you're right as it turns out Two Lovers is not eligible for any nod... something to do with screening on HDNet before its LA Premiere...
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 03, 2010, 04:11:26 AM
Biden annihilated Avatar
http://jezebel.com/5462479/wtf-moment-on-daytime-tv
 :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brawndolicious on February 03, 2010, 05:33:01 AM
He was my favored candidate (yea longshot) in 2008 but now I'll never care for his movie opinion than random trolls on the internet. :(
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 03, 2010, 09:16:58 AM
Biden annihilated Avatar
http://jezebel.com/5462479/wtf-moment-on-daytime-tv
 :lol

That was so cringe worthy, he was so racking his brain for the name :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Diunx on February 03, 2010, 10:22:21 AM
I still believe GS is trolling us, that nerdy scientist thing can't be serious.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 03, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
I don't think Two Lovers came out in 2009. 
well I don't believe The Hurt Locker is a 2009 film either :shh.

Hurt Locker was nominated at the 2008 IFC Spirit Awards due it's premiere at the 2008 Venice International Film Festival, but it didn't get released outside the festival circuit until June 2009.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 11:08:02 AM
I still believe GS is trolling us, that nerdy scientist thing can't be serious.

That was one fucking gaffe, you idiot. One fucking sentence I wrote without even thinking about it because I couldn't remember the name of a character. You can find other posts I've made where I said that Jeremy Renner should win the Best Actor award for his role as the bomb defuser. Where the fuck are all the sarcastic posts saying "Glen's favorite acting job of the year, the deepest and most memorable, the bomb defuser!"? Oh right, those ones don't exist because people liked that movie. How about the times when I referred to George Clooney's character in Up in the Air simply as "George Clooney"? Couldn't remember his name either. No one even batted an eye at that. But Mandark makes one fucking pun, and now anyone who disagrees with me on Avatar has an easy straw man that they can just move down the field.

Thinking Avatar should win an Oscar is the equivalent of thinking Wii Sports is the best game of the generation Glen.

Why is that? At least Avatar is good. How about "you have your opinion and I have mine"? Why is that concept so difficult on this forum? It's not enough to express that you didn't like a film. No, anyone who did like it has to be wrong. Anyone who did like it must be an idiot who has never seen a good movie in his life. And even if he has seen a fuckload of great films from all genres and all time periods and has posted about them on this very forum, apparently he must have been asleep or stoned when watching them because it's IMPOSSIBLE that anyone who has watched films like 2001 or Yojimbo or The Searchers could ever like Avatar.  ::)

It's ridiculous. It's like the "No one who has played a PC shooter could ever like Halo" argument, except even stupider. This incessant, pathological need to be right, and beyond that, to actively insult the people who you think are "wrong" is why this forum only has like 30 fucking active members.

It's fucking weird that the person I have the most respect for in this thread is am nintenho. He apparently hated Avatar just as much as Willco, but he doesn't make it personal. He doesn't insult the people he disagrees with. His posts about the movie are about the movie and nothing else. He doesn't spam ad hominems like crazy just because someone liked a movie that he didn't like. But for the rest of you, it's like you think the fact that you didn't like Avatar somehow makes you smarter, or a better critic, or reaffirms the importance of your opinions (it doesn't). Fuck off with your self-importance. You're one person with an opinion, and someone who liked Avatar is another.

I try, but this guy keeps trying to shift talk from the actual movie to how other people also liked the movie.  Wotta conundrum!

At this point I've explained exactly why I think Avatar deserves its Oscar nominations numerous times on this forum, Mandark. Clearly you disagree with me, so why not leave it at that and talk about other movies you liked in 2009?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Diunx on February 03, 2010, 11:26:49 AM
I still believe GS is trolling us, that nerdy scientist thing can't be serious.

That was one fucking gaffe, you idiot. One fucking sentence I wrote without even thinking about it because I couldn't remember the name of a character. You can find other posts I've made where I said that Jeremy Renner should win the Best Actor award for his role as the bomb defuser. Where the fuck are all the sarcastic posts saying "Glen's favorite acting job of the year, the deepest and most memorable, the bomb defuser!"? Oh right, those ones don't exist because people liked that movie. How about the times when I referred to George Clooney's character in Up in the Air simply as "George Clooney"? Couldn't remember his name either. No one even batted an eye at that. But Mandark makes one fucking pun, and now anyone who disagrees with me on Avatar has an easy straw man that they can just move down the field.


You were trying to make a point about how he wasn't a stock character but decided to call him nerdy scientist guy, you could just look up his name on imdb but just ended up making an ass out of your self as usual.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 11:41:47 AM
Ofcourse everybody has his own opinions, doesn't mean some aren't bad taste, like yours.

 ::)

Translation: my opinion is better than yours because... well, because it is!

You were trying to make a point about how he wasn't a stock character but decided to call him nerdy scientist guy, you could just look up his name on imdb but just ended up making an ass out of your self as usual.

I could have done that and should have done that, but the point isn't that I didn't make a mistake, the point is that said mistake keeps getting brought up time and time again in totally unrelated scenarios.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 11:55:18 AM
Basicly yes. Sometimes thats just all there is to it.

The mere fact that even after numerous people tried to explain to you why Avatar is not an Oscar movie you dont see it, well thats speaks volumes. Its pretty clear there is a consensus on EB about this movie amd you can act like Nintendobooger now and go bu bu bu, but it won't do you any good and we'll all just keep on laughing about your horrid taste.

Do you really want to talk about a consensus when it comes to Avatar?

Winner - Golden Globe Award for Best Drama Picture
Winner - Golden Globe Award for Best Director
Nominated for Best Picture and Best Director at the Academy Awards
82% Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes
94% Fresh among Top Critics (this kind of split almost never happens)
8.6/10 with 173,000 votes on imdb (#42 all time)
"A" rating among polled audiences across all demographics
$2 billion worldwide gross
Sold more tickets than any other film released in 2009 by a huge margin

"But no, I'm a self-important internet nerd whose opinion is so important it invalidates all of that!"  ::)

"This movie isn't Oscar worthy even though it was just nominated for one!"  ::) ::)

If people who wanted to discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of the film would just do so without resorting to personal attacks, this forum would be a lot more pleasant. But what can anyone expect when the owner of the forum is also one of its biggest trolls?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 12:05:52 PM
Did Nintendosbooger hijack your account, or was he always a JC of yours?

You basicly did a copy pasta of all his threads, where he shows how many people love Nintendo and how good Nintendo is doing.

Real Talk: Nobody cares, Nintendo sucks and Avatar is not a good movie.

The only reason youre posting now is to troll people here, just like Nintendosbooger.

If the only thing I posted was "2 billion worldwide gross," you'd have a point, but I posted an overwhelming critical and audience consensus as well. It's like you're not even trying to be intellectually honest, Kosma.

Has it occurred to you that I post because I actually liked Avatar and don't appreciate being called a tasteless idiot for that?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Raban on February 03, 2010, 12:07:51 PM
Did Nintendosbooger hijack your account, or was he always a JC of yours?

You basicly did a copy pasta of all his threads, where he shows how many people love Nintendo and how good Nintendo is doing.

Real Talk: Nobody cares, Nintendo sucks and Avatar is not a good movie.

The only reason youre posting now is to troll people here, just like Nintendosbooger.

If the only thing I posted was "2 billion worldwide gross," you'd have a point, but I posted an overwhelming critical and audience consensus as well. It's like you're not even trying to be intellectually honest, Kosma.

Has it occurred to you that I post because I actually liked Avatar and don't appreciate being called a tasteless idiot for that?

Nobody would mind you if you had just said you liked Avatar. The extent to which you defend this film against any criticism is what people are annihilating you about.

And nobody here is going out of their way to personally attack you, but everything they say about Avatar sure is taken personally by you.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 12:17:32 PM
GS is just struggling with the fact some people are not willing to think outside the box on what constitutes an Oscar movie. I think we could have the same discussion with him about if Dan Brown books are literature.

This is not an ad hominem attack bro, just stating that you have your own perceptions of where some boundries are and have difficulty accepting that many members here are more traditional in that sense.

Literature and film are two entirely different mediums with different aims and objectives. It's not an exact equivalent. However, I have asserted many times that genre fiction can be counted as literature. I've never read a Dan Brown book, so I'm not going to get into that argument. I would call The Stand literature; is that one sufficiently controversial?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
Literature and film are two entirely different mediums with different aims and objectives. It's not an exact equivalent. However, I have asserted many times that genre fiction can be counted as literature. I've never read a Dan Brown book, so I'm not going to get into that argument. I would call The Stand literature; is that one sufficiently controversial?

That depends. Are you calling it good literature?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 12:53:16 PM
Did it an invoke a sense of awe and wonder and adventure?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Mupepe on February 03, 2010, 01:00:59 PM
Literature and film are two entirely different mediums with different aims and objectives. It's not an exact equivalent. However, I have asserted many times that genre fiction can be counted as literature. I've never read a Dan Brown book, so I'm not going to get into that argument. I would call The Stand literature; is that one sufficiently controversial?

That depends. Are you calling it good literature?
I AM!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 01:04:16 PM
My "sense of awe and wonder and adventure" post has been quoted several times now, and not once has anyone made any serious attempt to explain A) why those feelings are not universal, or B) why evoking said feelings as well or better than any film in the history of cinema is not a huge achievement in itself.

No, all we get is shit like: "Green Shinobi said Avatar evokes emotions. OMG, Twilight evokes emotions in teenage girls! They must be exactly the same!"  ::)

GS is just struggling with the fact some people are not willing to think outside the box on what constitutes an Oscar movie.

Evilbore.com. Where if you think outside the box, FUCK YOU!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 03, 2010, 01:28:48 PM
B) why evoking said feelings as well or better than any film in the history of cinema is not a huge achievement in itself.

This reminds me of the time I argued that Good Burger was a great film in film class.  My argument was that Good Burger reminded me of how delicious hamburgers were on a level unsurpassed by any other film in Hollywood history.  Everyone kept arguing with me, but noone bothered to recognized that what while what I’m saying might be utterly nonsensical, it nonetheless says something universal about humanity, because everyone loves the fucking shit out of hamburgers.  Hunger, longing and tastiness are universal experiences, and in some sense define what it is to be human, therefore Good Burger is one of Hollywood’s greatest cultural contributions.     
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:29:57 PM
Annihilated. :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 03, 2010, 01:33:09 PM
B) why evoking said feelings as well or better than any film in the history of cinema is not a huge achievement in itself.

This reminds me of the time I argued that Good Burger was a great film in film class.  My argument was that Good Burger reminded me of how delicious hamburgers were on a level unsurpassed by any other film in Hollywood history.  Everyone kept arguing with me, but noone bothered to recognized that what while what I’m saying might be utterly nonsensical, it nonetheless says something universal about humanity, because everyone loves the fucking shit out of hamburgers.  Hunger, longing and tastiness are universal experiences, and in some sense define what it is to be human, therefore Good Burger is one of Hollywood’s greatest cultural contributions.     

:rofl
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 01:34:33 PM
This reminds me of the time I argued that Good Burger was a great film in film class.  My argument was that Good Burger reminded me of how delicious hamburgers were on a level unsurpassed by any other film in Hollywood history.  Everyone kept arguing with me, but noone bothered to recognized that what while what I’m saying might be utterly nonsensical, it nonetheless says something universal about humanity, because everyone loves the fucking shit out of hamburgers.  Hunger, longing and tastiness are universal experiences, and in some sense define what it is to be human, therefore Good Burger is one of Hollywood’s greatest cultural contributions.     

And still no one can seriously address my post. Good job, Chipopo.  ::)

What's the point of even trying on a forum where the only measure of quality debate is teh funnies?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:37:00 PM
Not only did he seriously address your post, he tore down your entire argument in one fell swoop. Game over, man. Game over.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Not only did he seriously address your post, he tore down your entire argument in one fell swoop. Game over, man. Game over.

He compared the universal human feelings of wonder and adventure to a hamburger. Furthermore, the entire post is stupid because 1) taste is not an emotion, and 2) even if the comparison were valid, a visual medium like film is not capable of conveying what it actually feels like to eat a hamburger.

I feel like I lost brain cells just typing that out. You're not much for logic, Federman, but you're a master of baiting, that much is certain.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:42:22 PM
Hunger is a feeling. Game over, man. Game over.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 01:44:12 PM
I give up. Avatar sucks, it would be an utter disgrace if it won any awards, and everyone who liked it was clearly wowed by the spectacle and should know better next time. That, or they were moneyhatted. Which the Academy clearly was.

Can we talk about the other films now?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Eric P on February 03, 2010, 01:46:38 PM
i have a box full of Burger King Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs toys on my desk

it includes a ratbird with flapping wings and a talking Steve monkey toy.

it's pretty fucking awesome
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 01:46:49 PM
if somebody gave me the choice between wonder and adventure or a juicy hamburger, I would take the hamburger

especially if that hamburger came with Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs toys
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 01:48:06 PM
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs got robbed
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 01:49:24 PM
Is the movie ACTUALLY about meatballs raining from the heavens, or is that just the title?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 01:50:08 PM
Cloudy received a Perfect Zero (http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2009/09/review-of-meatballs.html) on the John K scale of 3D animation! ("Most cartoon features are thousands of points in the negative.")

I was sad it didn't get a nom in the animated category. 2009 was an awesome year for animation!

It's about a guy who invents a machine that makes it rain food to solve world hunger, but it ends up causing more problems than it's worth.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Eric P on February 03, 2010, 01:50:59 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/ericprva/IMG_0015.jpg)

STEVE
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 01:52:46 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3RM5hHfvFA[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1-Xlsw5WW4[/youtube]
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 03, 2010, 01:56:34 PM
Is the movie ACTUALLY about meatballs raining from the heavens, or is that just the title?

...

You never read the book?

What kind of sad childhood did you have?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Raban on February 03, 2010, 01:58:20 PM
B) why evoking said feelings as well or better than any film in the history of cinema is not a huge achievement in itself.

This reminds me of the time I argued that Good Burger was a great film in film class.  My argument was that Good Burger reminded me of how delicious hamburgers were on a level unsurpassed by any other film in Hollywood history.  Everyone kept arguing with me, but noone bothered to recognized that what while what I’m saying might be utterly nonsensical, it nonetheless says something universal about humanity, because everyone loves the fucking shit out of hamburgers.  Hunger, longing and tastiness are universal experiences, and in some sense define what it is to be human, therefore Good Burger is one of Hollywood’s greatest cultural contributions.     

I hope this isn't just trolling, because Good Burger is one of my personal favorite films. So fucking excellent. Have to be eating a burger any time I watch it though.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 03, 2010, 02:04:19 PM

 2) even if the comparison were valid, a visual medium like film is not capable of conveying what it actually feels like to eat a hamburger.

I know right!  It's almost like I applied an arbitrary standard to the movie that is completely independent of any objective measure. 

What an idiot I am. 

 
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 02:07:00 PM
I know right!  It's almost like I applied a completely arbitrary standard to the movie that is completely independent of any objective measure. 

What an idiot I am. 

I wouldn't go so far as to call you an idiot, but it was pretty stupid.  :teehee

Also,  :lol at "objective measure" in discussing any kind of artistic quality.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 03, 2010, 02:09:51 PM

Also,  :lol at "objective measure" in discussing any kind of artistic quality.

This is what I told the people in film class!  They were like

Quote from: Green Shinobi
a visual medium like film is not capable of conveying what it actually feels like to eat a hamburger


And I was all

Quote from: Green Shinobi
:lol at [trying to apply] "objective measures" in discussing any kind of artistic quality.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 02:11:32 PM
Was that before or after you flunked Philosophy 1: Basic Logic?  ???
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2010, 02:17:44 PM
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs got robbed

It boggles my mind that this movie actually turned out to be good.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 03, 2010, 02:23:27 PM
Jesus Fucking Christ GS, just stop.  This is like watching a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow stick his dick in an electrical outlet over and over and over again, thinking that maybe this time it really will feel like pussy.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 03, 2010, 02:25:17 PM
Was that before or after you flunked Philosophy 1: Basic Logic?  ???

Which part of your own argument do you disagree with?

1) That there is no objective criteria for good films, so the fact that you experienced wonder and joy makes AVATAR good.  

2) That there is an objective criteria for good films, so the fact that I experienced hunger and longing while watching Good Burger does not make it a great film.  
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 03, 2010, 02:30:34 PM
Which part of your own argument do you disagree with?

1) That there is no objective criteria for good films, so the fact that you experienced wonder and joy makes AVATAR a great film. 

2) That there is an objective criteria for good films, so the fact that I experienced hunger and longing while watching Good Burger does not make it a great film. 

Neither one of those is my own argument. However, the fact that hunger has absolutely nothing to do with art, and the fact that you're actually comparing something that made you feel hungry to something that evokes emotions that art is supposed to evoke, means that you're either trolling or you really are that much of an idiot. Although it's probably both.

Jesus Fucking Christ GS, just stop.  This is like watching a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow stick his dick in an electrical outlet over and over and over again, thinking that maybe this time it really will feel like pussy.

If by "pussy" you mean "real, intellectually stimulating debate," and by "sticking my dick in an electrical outlet" you mean "responding seriously to distinguished mentally-challenged fellows," then you're absolutely right. I don't know why I bother.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Christopher on February 03, 2010, 03:28:30 PM
I never understood why people put so much stock in this awards shit like who cares
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Mandark on February 03, 2010, 03:38:12 PM
I try, but this guy keeps trying to shift talk from the actual movie to how other people also liked the movie.  Wotta conundrum!

At this point I've explained exactly why I think Avatar deserves its Oscar nominations numerous times on this forum, Mandark. Clearly you disagree with me, so why not leave it at that and talk about other movies you liked in 2009?

No you haven't.

You've said that you really liked it and it deserves awards.  You've appealed to popularity and to authority to justify your opinion, and you've given it ultra-generic praise (it's an achievement in "visual storytelling" which, in the context of a narrative film is calling it "good").

For someone who's spent two, three hundred posts trying to defend his opinion of a picture, it's pretty stunning that you spend so little time talking about the movie itself.  This has been pointed out to you and yet you still go back to stupid shit like "oh, you think you're smarter than the Academy? hur hur".  I mean, honestly.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 03:57:59 PM
This will be followed up with a reply where he states he has already made his argument for why the film is good "many times before".
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Eric P on February 03, 2010, 04:03:52 PM
four months was pretty amazing
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 04:06:31 PM
honestly, Crash winning best picture sort of destroyed the Academy's credibility forever

remember Crash? EXACTLY.

there's been a lot of missteps (Titanic, Shakespeare in Love, Return of the King sweeps) but Crash is probably the most instantly incorrect statement they've made
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
I think Crash hurt the Academy's credibility, but I think widening the field to The Blind Side, District 9 and Avatar has permanently destroyed it.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 03, 2010, 04:08:48 PM
They nominated D9 and Avatar but not Moon. That alone destroys any credibility they might have had left.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Eric P on February 03, 2010, 04:10:37 PM
honestly, Crash winning best picture sort of destroyed the Academy's credibility forever

remember Crash? EXACTLY.

there's been a lot of missteps (Titanic, Shakespeare in Love, Return of the King sweeps) but Crash is probably the most instantly incorrect statement they've made

also, Gladiator

people who like Gladiator strike me as the same kind of people who only read fantasy fiction.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 03, 2010, 04:16:34 PM
ROTK was pretty awesome though Patel.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 04:38:36 PM
ROTK was pretty awesome though Patel.

agreed ... but a record 11 Oscars awesome?

in any case, my thoughts on RotK were hashed to death in that thread where I annihilated GS
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 03, 2010, 04:43:13 PM
what's the name of it, I didn't see it in searches
Quote
On 27 January 2004, the film was nominated for eleven Academy Awards: Academy Award for Best Picture, Directing, Adapted Screenplay, Original Score, Song, Visual Effects, Art Direction, Costuming, Make-up, Sound Mixing and Film Editing.

Best Picture, Directing, and (especially) Film Editing are admittedly debatable, but everything else is understandable and justified.

Well, actually the editing isn't even debatable: it was rather meh especially around the final action scenes/end.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brob on February 03, 2010, 04:45:23 PM
Only Oscar award I care for is the foreign one. And even then I only care if either The White Ribbon or The Prophet wins.  :tophat
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 04:56:21 PM
Sorry, Willco, somebody already made the best movie ever:

(http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/day-of-the-dolphin.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 03, 2010, 05:05:13 PM
why the hate for shakespeare in love? it was at least a smarter kind of popcorn movie.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 03, 2010, 05:06:19 PM
also, i will be seeing avatar at a morale event on the 11th, and shall render the definitive, objective opinion on james cameron's shitty trashpic.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Eric P on February 03, 2010, 05:32:22 PM
this morale event is obviously sponsored by Apple
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 03, 2010, 05:33:10 PM
or google :teehee
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 03, 2010, 05:35:27 PM
Maaaan, I'm playing DQVII on my PSP and I save this town, go to the future and all the townspeople are dressed up as animals and celebratin'. All I can think about is that this town is full of furries and I can't advance the story until I dress up as them and join the festivities. I blame this on Green Shinobi.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: drew on February 03, 2010, 05:37:17 PM
i have a feeling the hurt locker is going to win, if it doesnt i will never watch an award show again
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 05:39:46 PM
also, i will be seeing avatar at a morale event on the 11th, and shall render the definitive, objective opinion on james cameron's shitty trashpic.

I just got WOMAN'D into seeing it tonight; I am your sister in furry blue grief.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 03, 2010, 07:07:08 PM
oh no, we lost a fan of a shitty movie

oh no

oh no
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 07:24:51 PM
that's not a troll, though, because The Fountain is awesome
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 03, 2010, 07:26:39 PM
The Fountain actually does interesting and awesome things (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP5VWfv0hlk) with the visual effects too. Instead of having a bunch of dude bros. rendering out CG Navi tits.

They actual had a single macro photographer do a lot of the visual effects (emulsifying film), small models used and green screening these effects in with the actors.

Now I want to rewatch The Fountain.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: ManaByte on February 03, 2010, 07:31:17 PM
Avatar is so good you can't even remember the title. It blows you away that much!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/joe-biden-talks-about-oscars-9735467
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 07:31:57 PM
if Avatar wins Best Picture, let's give its Oscar to The Fountain
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 08:11:33 PM
also, i will be seeing avatar at a morale event on the 11th, and shall render the definitive, objective opinion on james cameron's shitty trashpic.

What kind of morale event tries to negatively impact morale?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 03, 2010, 08:13:08 PM
The Fountain :bow

The Fountain soundtrack :bow

Rachel Weis  :hump

Hugh Jackman  :drool
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 03, 2010, 08:21:55 PM
That last page was so hilarious that I had to re read it.

Fuck :rofl
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 03, 2010, 08:29:52 PM
Chipopo really destroyed GS.

Yeah, faulty or nonexistent logic can be overlooked as long as it has teh funnies, right?

Well, you're half right. It was hilarious.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 03, 2010, 08:34:05 PM
Chipopo really destroyed GS.

Yeah, faulty or nonexistent logic can be overlooked as long as it has teh funnies, right?

Andy from Shawshank was less butt-hurt than this.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 03, 2010, 08:37:53 PM
Asserting that a visual medium is incapable of conveying the sensation of taste is NOT the same as saying that there is no "objective medium" for judging artistic success.

If he destroyed me, it was in getting me to respond so seriously to obvious troll-bait. Which I guess on EB is annihilation.

You say explosions make you feel adventuire, he says burgers make him feel hunger
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Kestastrophe on February 03, 2010, 08:39:59 PM
did someone say this was an awards thread? :teehee


(http://i46.tinypic.com/2nvqbg9.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 03, 2010, 08:41:35 PM
did someone say this was an awards thread? :teehee


(http://i46.tinypic.com/2nvqbg9.jpg)

let me be the first to :rofl
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 08:42:49 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 03, 2010, 08:43:22 PM
I don't understand.  All I'm saying is that I judge movies based on their ability to convince me that I should eat a tremendous hamburger.  Who are you to tell me what I should judge a movie based on?  Troll.

btw -- Spaghetti With a Chance of Meatballs -- 9.0 but should have had more emphasis on the burger rain.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 08:45:48 PM
"Hunger doesn't count because I said so." :rofl
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 03, 2010, 08:47:49 PM
One of the ways art has been judged for centuries is on the basis of how much it makes you think or feel. This does NOT include base, physical sensations like hunger. Would anyone say that Backdoor Sluts 2 was a work of art because it gave them the stiffest woody ever? I mean, maybe you could say that it's a work of art in its own way, but clearly it's not in the same category as the kind of films we're talking about in this thread.

1. you already shot down objective criticism of movies
2. food is hunger is longing is a universal human experience
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 08:49:16 PM
Every time I open this thread up, it's like Christmas.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 03, 2010, 08:50:40 PM
I don't get it.  GS finds himself getting thoroughly savaged every post he makes yet he returns for more.  I think he just likes the attention at this point, regardless of whether it is positive or not.

did someone say this was an awards thread? :teehee


(http://i46.tinypic.com/2nvqbg9.jpg)

lawl
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 03, 2010, 08:52:21 PM
Adventure takes precedence over hunger
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 03, 2010, 08:55:26 PM
Adventure takes precedence over hunger

But what if hunger drives you to adventure?

I wouldn't be surprised if Camerons initial creative concept for Avatar was that scribbled in crayon in some sketchbook
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 03, 2010, 08:57:04 PM
Adventure takes precedence over hunger

But what if hunger drives you to adventure?

This exchange summarizes why Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle is more important to cinema history than Fellini's entire ouvre.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 08:57:11 PM
I'm hungry for adventure.

Also, Tampopo is an amazing movie and it's all about hunger and food.

:bow (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Tampopo_cover.jpg) :bow2

Also, after watching Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle, I immediately went to Wendy's and bought and ate a hamburger.

:bow food-based cinema :bow2
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 03, 2010, 09:26:51 PM
1. you already shot down objective criticism of movies
2. food is hunger is longing is a universal human experience

I said that there is no objective way to measure artistic merit. However, there ARE things that have been talked about for centuries as being indicators of whether or not something that someone created is artistic, among them 1) aesthetic beauty, 2) the capacity to make someone think about a matter that is important for whatever reason, or 3) the capacity to evoke emotions in the audience. Not all art has to do all of these things, but I don't think anyone would seriously deny that good art should do at least one.

Good Burger does none of these things, so his distinguished mentally-challenged comparison is invalid.

But why do I feel that I just annihilated myself by taking the time to type that response out?

HE'S LEARNING.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Raban on February 03, 2010, 09:27:19 PM
1. you already shot down objective criticism of movies
2. food is hunger is longing is a universal human experience

I said that there is no objective way to measure artistic merit. However, there ARE things that have been talked about for centuries as being indicators of whether or not something that someone created is artistic, among them 1) aesthetic beauty, 2) the capacity to make someone think about a matter that is important for whatever reason, or 3) the capacity to evoke emotions in the audience. Not all art has to do all of these things, but I don't think anyone would seriously deny that good art should do at least one.

Good Burger does none of these things, so his distinguished mentally-challenged comparison is invalid.

But why do I feel that I just annihilated myself by taking the time to type that response out?

HE'S LEARNING.

Willco's suicide pending.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 03, 2010, 09:31:53 PM
Goodburger not only evokes longing for the simpler times of high school part time jobs and the bonds between young men, but for overcooked beef.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 03, 2010, 09:34:58 PM
Minimum wage, fast food camaraderie is definitely what I pulled away from that movie. Lifted my spirits and was life reaffirming.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 03, 2010, 09:47:33 PM
I said that there is no objective way to measure artistic merit. However, there ARE things that have been talked about for centuries as being indicators of whether or not something that someone created is artistic

There are no objective measures, but there are.  Got it.


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among them 1) aesthetic beauty, 2) the capacity to make someone think about a matter that is important for whatever reason, or 3) the capacity to evoke emotions in the audience. Not all art has to do all of these things, but I don't think anyone would seriously deny that good art should do at least one.

There are no objective measures, but there are, and they are the ones I've hand-selected to shoe-horn AVATAR in to the category of "great film". 

But when someone attempts to judge AVATAR by other time-honored categories (lets take characterization as an example) it's all "buububu there is no objective criteria! Thinking outside the box! Nerdy scientist guy had depth to me!!!!"
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Eric P on February 03, 2010, 09:59:06 PM
I'm hungry for adventure.

Also, Tampopo is an amazing movie and it's all about hunger and food.

:bow (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Tampopo_cover.jpg) :bow2

Also, after watching Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle, I immediately went to Wendy's and bought and ate a hamburger.

:bow food-based cinema :bow2

turtle scene

:(
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 03, 2010, 10:25:04 PM
AVATAR is a great film insofar as you don't judge it by any criteria specifically related to film.  Got it. 
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brawndolicious on February 03, 2010, 10:48:59 PM
characterization should be a necessary scale in determining the artistic merit of a movie since the point of a movie is to actually tell a story.  what artistic goals did Avatar set out to achieve?  I agree that it was a fun movie but I don't see why you would call it art.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 10:51:23 PM
It's Dances with Wolves with blue people pasted in and worse acting.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brawndolicious on February 03, 2010, 10:58:53 PM
The most important plot points that make you identify with the main characters are carbon copies though.  That's like focusing on the trees and ignoring the forest.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 03, 2010, 11:01:28 PM
The point was to satirize your assertion that there are no objective standards by which to judge a film.  It was backhanded because I knew you yourself didn't believe this, or you wouldn't keep making grandiose claims to universality.  You want it both ways; my private subjective opinion has universal objective validity.  

So now in a roundabout way, you've unearthed the hidden rules by which you've designated AVATAR as a great film.

They are basically:  Because avatar is art and art am good.  

See, a work of art has aesthetic qualities, and it has underlying concepts, and its meant to stimulate the viewer.

AVATAR does these things.  So AVATAR is art.  And art is good!  AVATAR is good!  

But after we've established that AVATAR is art, isn't there another step to take?  a way to understand whether its good art?  I mean, technically, every fucking film ever fits the criteria you've set down.  Good Burger!

The Stand is literature! you might say.  But is it good literature?  

So lets say that filmmaking is a type of art, and it has its own language of expression, and if it can use that language in a sophisticated way, then its good art.  AVATAR's language is extremely simple and derivative.  So fine, it's art.  So what?

  
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Ichirou on February 03, 2010, 11:13:04 PM
:bow MY FUCKING GRANDPA :bow2
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 03, 2010, 11:21:53 PM
There are so many differences though.

Does Jake Sully open the movie with a suicide run across enemy lines that earns him a transfer off the battlefield? Does he go to Pandora seeking solitude? Does he find that the Navi have killed everyone at his station? When he meets Neytiri, is she a human taken in by the Navi who has just slit her wrists?

I could keep going, but it should be clear that Avatar is quite different from Dances With Wolves unless you boil it down to a bare skeleton of plot points.

... So what you're saying is that Avatar is just a pale imitation, completely devoid of the characterization that helped Dances with Wolves become so popular.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 03, 2010, 11:24:58 PM
wait -- dune is now an anti-colonialist parable? WAT
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brawndolicious on February 03, 2010, 11:26:07 PM
I would say that they're all carbon copies and I'm not really a fan of any of those movies (except Dune which I haven't seen).  But it's a formula that works for making most people like the main character in identifying with his pursuit of some exotic culture.  The thing that sets Avatar apart is that the Navi culture and the relationship between being a human and being greedy/robotic is so simple and so stupid that it makes you really struggle to care about any of these characters or any of the plot points you predicted hours earlier.  It basically makes a bad formula suck worse.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Mandark on February 03, 2010, 11:50:17 PM
This is almost as bad as the time Green Shinobi explained how Beowulf ripped off The Hobbit. (http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/5776717/)
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 04, 2010, 12:03:58 AM
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Protip: If you're going for satire, it helps to have a firm grasp of the subject you're attempting to satirize.
Protip 2: Don't try for satire; you're not very good at it.

Actually my satire was pretty on the money based on what you were saying at the time.  There would appear to be a consensus on this, btw :smug
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 04, 2010, 01:45:44 AM
I don't remember that ???
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 04, 2010, 01:54:57 AM
No, his was better.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 04, 2010, 01:56:13 AM
Satire sort of has to be funny.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Mandark on February 04, 2010, 01:57:51 AM
I don't understand how that's satire, either objectively or viewing it through GS's eyes.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 04, 2010, 02:05:53 AM
ok, yours makes sense.

Still isn't funny.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 04, 2010, 02:20:36 AM
Satire sort of has to be funny.

It should also make sense. The Good Burger one made no sense because feeling hungry isn't an emotion or thought, it's a physical craving. He might as well have said something like "Yeah, 2001 made me think a lot about the vast emptiness of space, how small humans are in the scheme of things, the possibility of AI systems turning on us and a whole lot of other things, but Half-Baked made me want to smoke weed more than any other movie ever, so I think they're pretty comparable." You cannot deny that that was about the gist of his argument. It was funny though.

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This reminds me of the time I argued that Good Burger was a great film in film class.  My argument was that Good Burger reminded me of how delicious hamburgers were on a level unsurpassed by any other film in Hollywood history.  Everyone kept arguing with me, but noone bothered to recognized that while what I’m saying might be utterly nonsensical, it nonetheless says something universal about humanity, because everyone loves the fucking shit out of hamburgers.  Hunger, longing and tastiness are universal experiences, and in some sense define what it is to be human, therefore Good Burger is one of Hollywood’s greatest cultural contributions.     

I'm beginning to feel like you don't even recognize that my "argument" was disingenuous.  You do understand right?  For the love of God please understand. 
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: drew on February 04, 2010, 02:24:50 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: demi on February 04, 2010, 02:32:32 AM
man you guys actually watch this crap.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brawndolicious on February 04, 2010, 03:13:44 AM
It doesn't seem like you draw any distinction between the technical type of creative skill that would make something popcorn entertainment and any skill that makes something have artistic merit, therefore pushing you to try to understand the new way that the artist used the medium.  Yes, art has to do something new.

Everybody agrees that the skill taht went into, as you say, "transporting you into a new world with a sense of wonder and adventure" make the movie more entertaining but what does that have to do with the artist(s) creative process?  Anybody can make something creative, but what does this movie do that is relevant/unique/anything to you?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Mandark on February 04, 2010, 03:20:30 AM
You know, when I saw it in the theatres I got a very underwhelmed vibe from the audience.  Nobody clapped or cheered and I heard a few people tentatively asking "so... what did you think of it?" or the equivalent of their friends.

I'd bet the later audiences who are seeing it to avoid missing a cultural phenomenon are are lot less apt to feel magically whisked away to another world than the people who saw the previews, said "this really speaks to me!" and caught it early on.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 04, 2010, 03:32:57 AM
You know, when I saw it in the theatres I got a very underwhelmed vibe from the audience.  Nobody clapped or cheered and I heard a few people tentatively asking "so... what did you think of it?" or the equivalent of their friends.

Yeah, the girl I saw it with tonight didn't know it was sci-fi or had aliens in it. :teehee She was also pretty confused and underwhelmed at the end. She kept saying "That's so weird..." the entire movie.

At this point, Avatar's audience is made up of cultural stragglers not wanting to be left behind, not an unstoppable army of True Believers.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 04, 2010, 08:02:23 AM
Man, it sure was funny to see Green Shinobi taking the opposite position on Dances With Wolves than he did with my 12 Monkeys remarks. I'm glad to see my points have taken hold with you, GS.

I need to get a live feed of this thread to my phone.

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The point was that there is no objective measurement for these criteria, nor does anyone's opinion carry objective truth. You cannot objectively say "the characterization in this film is poor," or "the melody in this piece of music is subpar."

But after seeing dozens of movies in a particular genre, you can certainly say whether the writer/director made a tangible effort at developing these aspects of the film, or if he considered them to be unimportant and was instead focusing on something else.

James Cameron had less interest in making an artful, excellent, great, Oscar-worthy film than you do. He just wanted to make a fun action/romance/spectacle/message movie for all ages and genders. He succeeded at that and no one here has disputed his ability to do this.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 04, 2010, 08:32:40 AM
I doubt it will be as eventful from here on out. I'm done arguing about this movie. Even when I win I lose. Besides, all the major players have seen it at this point, and the consensus on the forum is that it's not nearly as popular here as it is with most other audiences. I'm not going to change anyone's mind any more than they're going to change mine. Not worth fighting about.

I watched A Serious Man with a friend for a second time tonight, and damn if that movie isn't hilarious on a second viewing. Patel was spot on when he said that it's funny in the same way God from the Old Testament is funny. It still ranks well below The Big Lebowski, No Country, and Fargo for me, but it's damn good.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Powerslave on February 04, 2010, 06:00:23 PM
Green Shinoobi I can offer you a free course on how to post on the internet. It'll only cost you 20 dollars an hour.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Ichirou on February 04, 2010, 08:00:23 PM
There are so many differences though.

Does Jake Sully open the movie with a suicide run across enemy lines that earns him a transfer off the battlefield? Does he go to Pandora seeking solitude? Does he find that the Navi have killed everyone at his station? When he meets Neytiri, is she a human taken in by the Navi who has just slit her wrists?

I could keep going, but it should be clear that Avatar is quite different from Dances With Wolves unless you boil it down to a bare skeleton of plot points.

... So what you're saying is that Avatar is just a pale imitation, completely devoid of the characterization that helped Dances with Wolves become so popular.

Yup, that's basically what he's saying.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brawndolicious on February 04, 2010, 08:41:49 PM
So you cared about the specific motivations that the character had, and not the plot points the movie followed in order to tell the story?  That makes less sense actually because of how simple the plot was.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 05, 2010, 09:34:13 AM
The Hurt Locker was pretty fuckin' good, if incredibly one-dimensional. OK, let's play nice and call it "focused". Bomb disposal squads were a part of everyday life in Belfast but this brought home to me yet again just what a vile and cowardly tactic these things are. I am once again overcome with amazement that anyone managed to stomach sitting down at a table with cocksuckers like Martin McGuiness long enough to negotiate a lasting peace settlement.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 05, 2010, 12:42:14 PM
I liked the hurt locker because it resonated a lot of what soilders were having to deal with in iraq.  Anyone and no one could be trying to kill you.  That and the language barrier makes protocol a bitch.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 05, 2010, 01:35:27 PM
The best thing about The Hurt Locker was how well it depicted the feeling of paranoia that people in that situation would face. The scene where the lead bomb disposal guy goes out to try to find the people who killed the kid was absolutely brilliant. It was the very definition of paranoia - being frantically on the lookout for something that isn't there. The fact that the guy whose house he broke into was apparently college-educated made it even better. It really fucked with the stereotypical perceptions many Americans have of Iraqis (bunch of dumb camel-fucking towel-heads).
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 05, 2010, 01:41:30 PM
The best thing about The Hurt Locker is when James returns home, and his adjustment (or lack thereof) to civilian life. Those few minutes are handled with subtlety sorely lacking from several of this year's Best Picture nominees.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Raban on February 05, 2010, 01:52:15 PM
The best thing about The Hurt Locker is when James returns home, and his adjustment (or lack thereof) to civilian life. Those few minutes are handled with subtlety sorely lacking from several of this year's Best Picture nominees.

If you're thinking what I think you're thinking...smh
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Eric P on February 05, 2010, 07:57:03 PM
in the loop

immediately
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 05, 2010, 07:57:36 PM
Up in the Air is extremely culturally relevant right now, but I honestly thought it paled in comparison with Thank You For Smoking.

Jin, if you haven't seen The Hurt Locker, watch that one right now. A Serious Man is also excellent, though as I've said, it's a second-tier Coen film IMO, which means it's still quite good.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brawndolicious on February 05, 2010, 09:05:34 PM
Up in the Air is extremely culturally relevant right now, but I honestly thought it paled in comparison with Thank You For Smoking.
What in terms of humor?  I guess I can agree with that but Up in the Air wasn't really a satire.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 05, 2010, 09:14:17 PM
Up in the Air is extremely culturally relevant right now, but I honestly thought it paled in comparison with Thank You For Smoking.
What in terms of humor?  I guess I can agree with that but Up in the Air wasn't really a satire.

Everything. Thank You For Smoking had a stronger message, better writing, and yes, it was funnier.

This is NOT to say that I didn't like Up in the Air.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brawndolicious on February 05, 2010, 09:20:26 PM
I forgot it even had a message to be honest.  If TYFS was released 60 years ago to the Don Draper audience, then yeah it would be very relevant but people already knew all about the bullshit with tobacco companies and the marketing of the product so it's sort of beating a dead horse.  On the other hand, Up in the Air was talking about a more contemporary problem and sort of attacks the policies of a type of company very few of us even knew existed and can be freshly horrified/disgusted by (firing people over the internet!).

But as far as like the "characters" go, TYFS was really charming but it gave us caricatures of people we already imagined existing (cowboys pitching tobacco, sleazes shifting the PR blame, etc) while Up in the Air made something different.  That movie wasn't so much about the satire or wit.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 05, 2010, 09:24:04 PM
Thank You For Smoking is about how a man can make a living telling lies he doesn't even believe in. It's about how the ability to deceive people constantly originates inside a person. That, to me, is a much more timeless theme than the one in Up in the Air.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Eric P on February 05, 2010, 09:26:26 PM
i'm going to back up Green here.

it's kind of a counterpart to vonnegut's mother night, but told as satire
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brawndolicious on February 05, 2010, 09:40:19 PM
Am Nintenho, the Cowboy in the movie is based off of someone very, very real.  And something similiar happened to him, except he accepted no payout.
I knew it was the marlboro man and obviously it was about how fake the industry's "icons" were, which I'd already learned through many PSA's over the years.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 05, 2010, 09:50:20 PM
I also agree that TYFS is better than Up in the Air! Look how much love is in this thread. :heart
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 05, 2010, 09:52:27 PM
Enough love for you to unblock my PMs?

Thread reminds me that I still need to see In the Loop.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Eric P on February 05, 2010, 10:13:01 PM
I haven't seen TYFS yet, wtf is wrong with me :(

read the book if you can find it

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then read florence of arabia.  try not to get caught with it or you'll probably be murdered.  i mean "sent to allah"
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Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: cool breeze on February 05, 2010, 10:49:54 PM
Thank You For Smoking is better but Up in the Air was on it's way for being better until the last third or so.  Actually, specifically the scene at the end of the movie took a lot away for me.  I'm talking about the
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people talking about how they cope with unemployment.  I really hated that.
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Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 05, 2010, 11:14:00 PM
in the loop

immediately
this

but i haven't seen the other two :(
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: cool breeze on February 05, 2010, 11:23:25 PM
Why did you hate it?

It just felt out of place, like it was put in just to be uplifting or more topical.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Bloodwake on February 05, 2010, 11:47:22 PM
Thank You For Smoking is better but Up in the Air was on it's way for being better until the last third or so.  Actually, specifically the scene at the end of the movie took a lot away for me.  I'm talking about the
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people talking about how they cope with unemployment.  I really hated that.
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I think the point of that whole scene was to contrast with Clooney's character

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Clooney's character, even though he has a job, has no family or wife to go home to, which he realizes is important at the end of the film. That's the point of the unemployed at the end of the scene.
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Yeah, I would have to say that Up in the Air isn't going to get my Best Picture nod either. I still have a few of the films to see (including the Hurt Locker) but it's safe to say it's not going to win a Best Picture Oscar IMO.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: cool breeze on February 05, 2010, 11:59:34 PM
Those were real people, not actors.  They were the same people they had relive their lay-offs.  It didn't think there was anything inauthentic about it.

I didn't mean to say it was inauthentic.

I think the point of that whole scene was to contrast with Clooney's character

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Clooney's character, even though he has a job, has no family or wife to go home to, which he realizes is important at the end of the film. That's the point of the unemployed at the end of the scene.
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I see what you mean but it doesn't really change how I feel.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 06, 2010, 12:44:31 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxcoheDVev1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 06, 2010, 01:06:45 AM
Enough love for you to unblock my PMs?

Thread reminds me that I still need to see In the Loop.

I don't have you on Ignore so I have no idea why your PMs would be blocked!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Bloodwake on February 06, 2010, 03:11:39 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxcoheDVev1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg)


 :lol :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Ichirou on February 06, 2010, 03:32:30 AM
Enough love for you to unblock my PMs?

Thread reminds me that I still need to see In the Loop.

I don't have you on Ignore so I have no idea why your PMs would be blocked!

PMs and posts on the board are blocked separately.

But please keep him blocked, I just know it's driving him nuts not to be able to have SECRET CONVERSATIONS with you. :lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: demi on February 06, 2010, 03:33:47 AM
In LOST's alternate reality, Avatar would be laughed off like the drek it is
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 06, 2010, 03:44:16 AM
Yeah, too bad we don't live there. We're stuck with this stupid shit reality where Avatar won Best Picture at the Golden Globes and got nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars. Fuck. that. shit.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: demi on February 06, 2010, 03:45:06 AM
Then you know what we must do... change history
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Raban on February 06, 2010, 03:46:30 AM
Then you know what we must do... change history

Can we buttrape Hitler?
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: demi on February 06, 2010, 03:48:01 AM
No, that can stay
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Raban on February 06, 2010, 03:50:47 AM
No, that can stay

:'(


Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 06, 2010, 04:00:29 AM
wait, Avatar won the Golden Globe for best drama? :lol

somehow I missed that :lol

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>:(
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:lol
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Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 06, 2010, 11:11:56 AM
wait, Avatar won the Golden Globe for best drama? :lol

somehow I missed that :lol

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>:(
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:lol
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And James Cameron won for Best Director.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 06, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxcoheDVev1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg)
:lol
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 08, 2010, 01:32:12 AM
Nazi Julie Andrews
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 09, 2010, 06:16:36 AM
Inglorious Basterds would be a much better choice than Up in the Air.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brawndolicious on February 09, 2010, 10:07:54 AM
I felt Inglourious Basterds was pretty far up it's own ass.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 09, 2010, 10:42:33 AM
The final caption in that Avatar/Lost gif is driving me crazy. It should either be "gets to walk again and goes hunting and becomes a leader and shit" or "gets to walk again and go hunting and become a leader and shit." You cannot have "goes" and "become" in the sentence together. The verb tenses do not agree. Fuck!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Mupepe on February 09, 2010, 10:45:52 AM
OH FUCKING SHIT LOST IS ON TONIGHT I FUCKING FORGOT WOOO WOOOO WOOO WOOO WOOO WOOO WOOO WOOO WOOO WOOO WOOO WOOOO WOOOOWOO OOWOOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOWWOWOWOOOOO!
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Powerslave on February 09, 2010, 08:33:58 PM
The final caption in that Avatar/Lost gif is driving me crazy. It should either be "gets to walk again and goes hunting and becomes a leader and shit" or "gets to walk again and go hunting and become a leader and shit." You cannot have "goes" and "become" in the sentence together. The verb tenses do not agree. Fuck!

you dont get it
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 10, 2010, 02:38:49 PM
The sentence experienced Season 5 time travel.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: brawndolicious on February 10, 2010, 04:43:16 PM
I felt Inglourious Basterds was pretty far up it's own ass.
A Tarantino flick?  Surely you kid! :teehee
Well..not really.  I liked most all of his other movies because they didn't take themselves seriously and were content with being tributes to genre films.  He works will with that formula, even as far as he enjoys reaching up his own ass.  But IB was about WW2 and the holocaust and Nazi propaganda and real events that people have real emotions for.  Not something you can project a bunch of childish revenge fantasies onto.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Shuri on February 10, 2010, 06:17:01 PM
I saw Avatar a couple of days ago, and if it wasnt for the 3D stuff, the movie would had horribly bombed. It feels like a movie adaptation of a videogame, it was so full of stereotypes. The 3D effects  was good but I dont even want to watch that movie again. What a marketing gimmick this was. People ate that shit up like crack. I swear to god I felt like I was watching unskippable cutscenes from a game the entire time.

Maybe I'm just too old.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 10, 2010, 06:20:57 PM
I imagine the majority of the people who saw Avatar watched it in 2D.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 10, 2010, 06:26:28 PM
I imagine the majority of the people who saw Avatar watched it in 2D.

Pretty sure this is wrong.

http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2667&p=.htm

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According to the National Association of Theater Owners, the latest available statistic for national average ticket price is $7.61 for the fourth quarter of 2009. IMAX reports an average ticket price of $14.58, but, at the time of this writing, there is no official word for regular 3D presentations. A survey of theaters across the country shows a $2 to $4 premium for 3D over 2D and indicates a $10 average ticket price. With these stats one can estimate 38.7 million tickets have been sold in regular 3D, 15.2 million sold in 2D and 6.8 million tickets sold in IMAX 3D.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 10, 2010, 06:28:44 PM
I was thinking of IMAX 3D since there is a limited number of IMAX theaters showing it.  My mistake.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 14, 2010, 10:09:52 PM
It was actually based on the Book of Job? I saw some similarities, but I wasn't aware that was the intention. Good jon, Coens.

Edit: that actually makes more sense since Yahweh's rebuke of Job is one of the more unintentionally hilarious things in the Old Testament.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 14, 2010, 10:14:17 PM
Why has there never been a thread dedicated to discussing "A Serious Man" but there's a two threads for Avatar with over 1000 posts?

We had one, two people posted in it. Then it died.

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32705.0 (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32705.0)
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 14, 2010, 10:18:16 PM
The Avatar threads aren't even remotely about Avatar though. Ironically, they are about a serious man.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Ichirou on February 14, 2010, 10:22:52 PM
Wtf? That's unforgivable.

I blame James Cameron.



Blame the fact that the movie never got a wide release instead.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 14, 2010, 10:23:07 PM
Sy Abelman really is one of the best "villains" in recent years.

Question:

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What did you guys think was the connection between the Yiddish scene at the beginning and the rest of the film? Particularly about the dybbuk.
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Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 14, 2010, 10:28:37 PM
Sy Abelman really is one of the best "villains" in recent years.

Question:

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What did you guys think was the connection between the Yiddish scene at the beginning and the rest of the film? Particularly about the dybbuk.
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None, according to the Coens, other than to start the movie off with a certain mood.
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Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Barry Egan on February 14, 2010, 11:37:16 PM
The Coens say lots of dubious shit about their own movies though.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 15, 2010, 02:27:02 AM
not a prob when you back your dubious shit up with great movies/music/feats of athleticism/etc
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Raban on February 15, 2010, 02:57:14 AM
I really want to read the Book of Job to get all the reference the movies make.

My personal favorite part of the movie
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The neighbor's wife. This is why I love the Coens. They can seriously take an actor and make them amazing. Her face was brilliant to look at, and the "high" scene was exquisite. Out of all the movies that have portrayed a weed high visually, A Serious Man nailed it.
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Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 15, 2010, 03:07:32 AM
The Book of Job cliffnotes:

Job is wealthy and fucking righteous, God loves him.
Satan tells God to test Job by taking away all his possessions and good fortune.
God makes it so that all of Job's children die, all his livestock die, raiders steal his crops, he loses all his money, and he breaks out with a horrible skin disease.
Job's friends come by and offer their differing philosophies. One says that Job clearly has something to repent for. One says not to question God. Job ends up questioning God.
God comes out and offers a huge filibuster about how He created everything, so He can do whatever the fuck He wants.
Job repents for questioning God.
Job's good fortune returns, and he gets new children to replace the ones that died.
Title: Re: Official 2010 Academy Awards thread of downward spiral into irrelevancy
Post by: Raban on February 15, 2010, 03:18:30 AM
The Book of Job cliffnotes:

Job is wealthy and fucking righteous, God loves him.
Satan tells God to test Job by taking away all his possessions and good fortune.
God makes it so that all of Job's children die, all his livestock die, raiders steal his crops, he loses all his money, and he breaks out with a horrible skin disease.
Job's friends come by and offer their differing philosophies. One says that Job clearly has something to repent for. One says not to question God. Job ends up questioning God.
God comes out and offers a huge filibuster about how He created everything, so He can do whatever the fuck He wants.
Job repents for questioning God.
Job's good fortune returns, and he gets new children to replace the ones that died.

Is this
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the tornado?
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