Star Wars sucks but Brazil rocks and you still smoke pole
Star Wars sucks but Brazil rocks and you still smoke pole
How do yall not like The Original Star Wars Trilogy. Thats like the holy grail of Epic movies.
How do yall not like The Original Star Wars Trilogy. Thats like the holy grail of Epic movies.
How do yall not like The Original Star Wars Trilogy. Thats like the holy grail of Epic movies.Oh, and the Prequels brought the OT down just by association. ;)
Yeah, but there are far too many flaws with the OT trilogy, imo, to make it a "great" series.
I'd consider Chan-wook Park's Vengeance Trilogy and Kurosawa's Sanjuro films to be parts of a great series, that's for sure. Not Star Wars. Hokey acting, shitty effects, ewoks, and an (at times) contrived storyline hold it back from the true greatness not far out of reach. ;)
If I were following the GAF mentality, I'd hate things like Brazil, which I hold to be one of the greatest films ever made. I just consider the OT to be spruced-up children's films with a bit of an edge.
How do yall not like The Original Star Wars Trilogy. Thats like the holy grail of Epic movies.Oh, and the Prequels brought the OT down just by association. ;)
You have a point there. But kevin smith fans aside, the movie trilogy is pretty damn good film adaption of the Hero's Journey. I read Joseph Cambell's "A Hero with a Thousand faces" its about hero stories all around the world and what they share in common. Lucas did an amazing job of creating a completely new universe with such epic characters and stories.
I'd consider Chan-wook Park's Vengeance Trilogy and Kurosawa's Sanjuro films to be parts of a great series, that's for sure. Not Star Wars. Hokey acting, shitty effects, ewoks, and an (at times) contrived storyline hold it back from the true greatness not far out of reach. ;)
True, but he uses some of the cookie cutter characters from the book "hero with a thousand faces"
Also, does anyone like Time Bandits?
How do yall not like The Original Star Wars Trilogy. Thats like the holy grail of Epic movies.Oh, and the Prequels brought the OT down just by association. ;)
You have a point there. But kevin smith fans aside, the movie trilogy is pretty damn good film adaption of the Hero's Journey. I read Joseph Cambell's "A Hero with a Thousand faces" its about hero stories all around the world and what they share in common. Lucas did an amazing job of creating a completely new universe with such epic characters and stories.
I think Lucas has always overstated the influence of Campbell's work. He noticed his story fit the form and started talking Campbell up, possibly to butter up critics. If you read the early concepts and scripts for Star Wars (note: Only referring to the original movie because that's the most Campbellian of them), you'll see that most of the Campbellian bits are things he cribbed from Kurosawa flicks. He wasn't DIRECTLY influenced by Campbell - he told a good story, and noticed that classically good stories have similar forms.
How do yall not like The Original Star Wars Trilogy. Thats like the holy grail of Epic movies.Oh, and the Prequels brought the OT down just by association. ;)
You have a point there. But kevin smith fans aside, the movie trilogy is pretty damn good film adaption of the Hero's Journey. I read Joseph Cambell's "A Hero with a Thousand faces" its about hero stories all around the world and what they share in common. Lucas did an amazing job of creating a completely new universe with such epic characters and stories.
I think Lucas has always overstated the influence of Campbell's work. He noticed his story fit the form and started talking Campbell up, possibly to butter up critics. If you read the early concepts and scripts for Star Wars (note: Only referring to the original movie because that's the most Campbellian of them), you'll see that most of the Campbellian bits are things he cribbed from Kurosawa flicks. He wasn't DIRECTLY influenced by Campbell - he told a good story, and noticed that classically good stories have similar forms.
Even during the earliest stages of creating Star Wars he actually took his drafts to Cambell, asking him in essense "is this right?".
Am I the only person who watched the Star Wars documentaries? Damn :-\
So, do they, like, teach you to love Star Wars in this particular film school, FoC?
How do yall not like The Original Star Wars Trilogy. Thats like the holy grail of Epic movies.Oh, and the Prequels brought the OT down just by association. ;)
You have a point there. But kevin smith fans aside, the movie trilogy is pretty damn good film adaption of the Hero's Journey. I read Joseph Cambell's "A Hero with a Thousand faces" its about hero stories all around the world and what they share in common. Lucas did an amazing job of creating a completely new universe with such epic characters and stories.
I think Lucas has always overstated the influence of Campbell's work. He noticed his story fit the form and started talking Campbell up, possibly to butter up critics. If you read the early concepts and scripts for Star Wars (note: Only referring to the original movie because that's the most Campbellian of them), you'll see that most of the Campbellian bits are things he cribbed from Kurosawa flicks. He wasn't DIRECTLY influenced by Campbell - he told a good story, and noticed that classically good stories have similar forms.
Even during the earliest stages of creating Star Wars he actually took his drafts to Cambell, asking him in essense "is this right?".
Am I the only person who watched the Star Wars documentaries? Damn :-\
Did he say this or does he have it documented somehow? Because he's also gone on record saying some of the unused bits from THX1138 were recycled for Star Wars, which would shade doubt on his claims that Star Wars is a Campbellian masterpiece. If he knew the archetypes and templates so well, why did he resort to using nearly 10 year old material in the movie rather than making new stuff?
How do yall not like The Original Star Wars Trilogy. Thats like the holy grail of Epic movies.Oh, and the Prequels brought the OT down just by association. ;)
You have a point there. But kevin smith fans aside, the movie trilogy is pretty damn good film adaption of the Hero's Journey. I read Joseph Cambell's "A Hero with a Thousand faces" its about hero stories all around the world and what they share in common. Lucas did an amazing job of creating a completely new universe with such epic characters and stories.
I think Lucas has always overstated the influence of Campbell's work. He noticed his story fit the form and started talking Campbell up, possibly to butter up critics. If you read the early concepts and scripts for Star Wars (note: Only referring to the original movie because that's the most Campbellian of them), you'll see that most of the Campbellian bits are things he cribbed from Kurosawa flicks. He wasn't DIRECTLY influenced by Campbell - he told a good story, and noticed that classically good stories have similar forms.
Even during the earliest stages of creating Star Wars he actually took his drafts to Cambell, asking him in essense "is this right?".
Am I the only person who watched the Star Wars documentaries? Damn :-\
Did he say this or does he have it documented somehow? Because he's also gone on record saying some of the unused bits from THX1138 were recycled for Star Wars, which would shade doubt on his claims that Star Wars is a Campbellian masterpiece. If he knew the archetypes and templates so well, why did he resort to using nearly 10 year old material in the movie rather than making new stuff?
It sounds too me like you're overcomplicating the subject far more than it needs to be. Has Lucas ever said Star Wars is a "Campbellian masterpiece"? What bits of THX were recycled? And if bits were, does it really matter at all? Lucas wanted to do a lot of things with his student film which he either couldn't get around to or simply wasn't able to do at the time. Why is it so hard to fathom that *gasp* he'd put some of these things in one of his latter movies?
How do yall not like The Original Star Wars Trilogy. Thats like the holy grail of Epic movies.Oh, and the Prequels brought the OT down just by association. ;)
You have a point there. But kevin smith fans aside, the movie trilogy is pretty damn good film adaption of the Hero's Journey. I read Joseph Cambell's "A Hero with a Thousand faces" its about hero stories all around the world and what they share in common. Lucas did an amazing job of creating a completely new universe with such epic characters and stories.
I think Lucas has always overstated the influence of Campbell's work. He noticed his story fit the form and started talking Campbell up, possibly to butter up critics. If you read the early concepts and scripts for Star Wars (note: Only referring to the original movie because that's the most Campbellian of them), you'll see that most of the Campbellian bits are things he cribbed from Kurosawa flicks. He wasn't DIRECTLY influenced by Campbell - he told a good story, and noticed that classically good stories have similar forms.
Even during the earliest stages of creating Star Wars he actually took his drafts to Cambell, asking him in essense "is this right?".
Am I the only person who watched the Star Wars documentaries? Damn :-\
Did he say this or does he have it documented somehow? Because he's also gone on record saying some of the unused bits from THX1138 were recycled for Star Wars, which would shade doubt on his claims that Star Wars is a Campbellian masterpiece. If he knew the archetypes and templates so well, why did he resort to using nearly 10 year old material in the movie rather than making new stuff?
It sounds too me like you're overcomplicating the subject far more than it needs to be. Has Lucas ever said Star Wars is a "Campbellian masterpiece"? What bits of THX were recycled? And if bits were, does it really matter at all? Lucas wanted to do a lot of things with his student film which he either couldn't get around to or simply wasn't able to do at the time. Why is it so hard to fathom that *gasp* he'd put some of these things in one of his latter movies?
I don't think so. I think he began referring to Star Wars as Campbellian so he could get some crit cred, no overcomplication needed.
As for THX leftovers - the garbage pit. That's all I remember offhand, and I don't have access to either movie, nor any reading material at the moment.
Fact is, Campbell had a tendency to very broadly define archetypes and any number of zillions of movies could claim to be influenced by his work. Lucas just said his was influenced by Campbell during a period when Campbell was critically popular.
Why do people try to nit pick and critisize Lucas for even the smallest bullshit reasons? My godBecause he is successful.
Why do people try to nit pick and critisize Lucas for even the smallest bullshit reasons? My god