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Title: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: ManaByte on February 09, 2010, 11:22:16 AM
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/its-a-bird-its-a-plane-its-chris-nolan-hell-mentor-superman-3-0-while-preparing-3rd-batman/

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EXCLUSIVE: Warner Bros is trying to ready its DC Comics stalwart Superman to soar again on the Big Screen, and the studio has turned to Chris Nolan to mentor development of the movie. Our insiders say that the brains behind rebooted Batman has been asked to play a "godfather" role and ensure The Man Of Steel gets off the ground after a 3 1/2-year hiatus. Nolan's leadership of the project can set it in the right direction with the critics and the fans, not to mention at the box office. Besides, Nolan is considered something of a god at Warner Bros and has a strong relationship with the studio after the success of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. Though he wasn’t obligated to do so, he gave the studio first crack at his spec script Inception, and Warner Bros was able to buy it before other studios even got a sniff. While Nolan completes that Leonardo DiCaprio-starrer for a July 16th release, he's also hatched an idea for Warner Bros' third Batman installment. Now his brother and frequent collaborator Jonah Nolan, and David Goyer who co-wrote Batman Begins and penned the story for The Dark Knight, are off scripting it. (See 'FlashForward' Showrunner Exits For Features).
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 09, 2010, 11:30:27 AM
Dear Nolan,

Make sure it has a REAL supervillain this time.

Your friend,
The Entire World
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: ManaByte on February 09, 2010, 11:31:42 AM
No villain they could ever come up with could possibly match Terence Stamps Academy Award-worthy performance in Superman II.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Mupepe on February 09, 2010, 11:32:32 AM
It's too bad this couldn't have been finished a couple of months ago with Brittany Murphy as Lois Lane.  
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Diunx on February 09, 2010, 12:15:23 PM
It's too bad this couldn't have been finished a couple of months ago with Brittany Murphy as Lois Lane.  

She would make a horrible Lois.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 09, 2010, 12:21:37 PM
Well yea, she's dead now.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 09, 2010, 12:25:13 PM
Superman Returns>Batman Begins
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Diunx on February 09, 2010, 12:26:06 PM
WB should man up and let Morrison write the script.

Superman Returns>Batman Begins

Obvious troll is obvious.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 09, 2010, 12:29:58 PM
Superman Returns>Batman Begins

Even Lex Luthor knows this is "WROOOOOONG".
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Mupepe on February 09, 2010, 12:54:19 PM
Superman Returns>Batman Begins
I think I agree.  I'd have to rewatch Superman Returns again though.  I find Batman Begins hard to enjoy.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Robo on February 09, 2010, 01:00:13 PM
That's a difficult choice.  They're both really fucking terrible.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 09, 2010, 01:02:49 PM
I love RoboJ. :lol

Superman Returns is pretty bad. Batman Begins is at least a fun popcorn flick, albeit overrated. My dream project is Superman, so I was kind of hoping a reboot would stay in stasis until I sucked enough cock to get a stab - but if anybody is going to produce this thing, I'm glad it's Nolan.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Mupepe on February 09, 2010, 01:09:52 PM
Superman Returns was worse than pretty bad.  It was godawful. 
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Rman on February 09, 2010, 01:21:50 PM
BB>TDK
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 09, 2010, 01:27:37 PM
oh boy, more white guys in pervert suits
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 09, 2010, 01:28:57 PM
BB>TDK


 :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: OptimoPeach on February 09, 2010, 02:50:35 PM
BB>TDK


 :-\ :-\ :-\
He's right
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 09, 2010, 03:24:08 PM
Can't wait for the teaser

*Generic Hans Zimmer music slowly builds*

*Dark frame crumbles to reveal a giant S*

So money, I'm sure
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Mupepe on February 09, 2010, 03:28:32 PM
Lex is going to be a bald joker with less makeup
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: brawndolicious on February 09, 2010, 03:53:30 PM
I love RoboJ. :lol

Superman Returns is pretty bad. Batman Begins is at least a fun popcorn flick, albeit overrated.
I thought it was the other way around.  They both had horribly cheesy stories but at least Superman gave it less focus and tried to put in a lot more action scenes.  I can't remember anything enjoyable about BB, even nolan's gay little growl is nearly too sad to laugh at.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 09, 2010, 03:59:43 PM
What action scenes? He rescues a plane and then spends the entire film stalking Lois Lane and listening to Owl City.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 09, 2010, 04:04:16 PM
The only Batman flick Superman Returns is better than is Batman & Robin. It's a wash against Batman Forever.

Superman Returns, what a disappointment. :-\
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 09, 2010, 04:04:24 PM
Batman Begins is completely forgettable. I liked the beginning of Superman Returns as well as the plane scene. Plus Lex Luthor is more interesting than anything that happens in Batman Begins.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 09, 2010, 04:05:44 PM
The fact that Maurice is siding with you Cohen should show that you're wrong. What's next: Superman Returns is better than Blade Runner?
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Mupepe on February 09, 2010, 04:13:04 PM
I remember when Katie Holmes used to be fuckable. 
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 09, 2010, 04:22:44 PM
Superman Returns better than Batman Begins? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills in this thread. :dizzy
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 09, 2010, 04:25:02 PM
Space AIDS = Superman Returns
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 09, 2010, 04:26:51 PM
Superman Returns had Superboy killing a goon with a piano and that sort of thing really shouldn't be encouraged.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Mupepe on February 09, 2010, 04:27:54 PM
I bought the blu ray of batman begins just to see the first 6 minutes of the dark knight :teehee  

Then I never touched the blu ray.

But I did watch the HD DVD of Superman Returns like 3 times (It was the only one I owned after I got King Kong)
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Bildi on February 09, 2010, 07:15:28 PM
:bow Christopher Nolan

But really, they seem to be putting him on a pretty big pedestal.  It makes me wonder what's going to happen when he stumbles.


BB>TDK

Yah.  Although I really enjoyed TDK as well.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Powerslave on February 09, 2010, 07:19:18 PM
Bildi liked BB better than TDK????

Say it ain't so bro, say it ain't so :'(
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Dickie Dee on February 09, 2010, 07:27:37 PM
I love RoboJ. :lol

Superman Returns is pretty bad. Batman Begins is at least a fun popcorn flick, albeit overrated. My dream project is Superman, so I was kind of hoping a reboot would stay in stasis until I sucked enough cock to get a stab - but if anybody is going to produce this thing, I'm glad it's Nolan.

BB is a popcorn flick, but one Nolan didn't view as such and that delusion worked for more than half of the movie.

I still think Singer would be the right choice to come back for a sequel, now that he's gotten his 2-1/2 hour Richard Donner blowjob out of the way.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 09, 2010, 07:28:49 PM
But really, they seem to be putting him on a pretty big pedestal.  It makes me wonder what's going to happen when he stumbles.

He's the big thing right now and they've got him practically to themselves. They're going to get as much as they can out of him while he's popular. When [or if] his well runs dry, they'll quietly put him aside and let someone else have him.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Powerslave on February 09, 2010, 07:32:27 PM
Nolan the new Tarantino?
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Bildi on February 09, 2010, 07:33:58 PM
Bildi liked BB better than TDK????

Say it ain't so bro, say it ain't so :'(

Both movies sit on my exclusive shelf of "super awesome movies", but TDK had a couple of shortcomings to me:

 - it's long, and virtually 2 movies put together.  BB is definitely a lot more succinct.
 - while I am not a particular fan of Katie Holmes, I had a bit of trouble with Maggie Gyllenhaal playing what people in the movie describe as a strikingly beautiful woman because to me she just wasn't.  Her makeup always seemed to accentuate the lines under her eyes adding a good 10 years onto her appearance.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Powerslave on February 09, 2010, 07:35:46 PM
Dude... TDK had THE JOKER. END OF DISCUSSION. PERIOD. PERIOD.

Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Bildi on February 09, 2010, 07:37:16 PM
I know, it was a friggin' awesome character and performance.  Definitely blew BB out of the water in that regard.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Powerslave on February 09, 2010, 07:49:13 PM

 - while I am not a particular fan of Katie Holmes, I had a bit of trouble with Maggie Gyllenhaal playing what people in the movie describe as a strikingly beautiful woman because to me she just wasn't.  Her makeup always seemed to accentuate the lines under her eyes adding a good 10 years onto her appearance.

I also would like to add that Maggie Gyllenhaal has a "I'm SO goddamn BORED and TIRED" attitude and facial expression throughout the whole movie. She's so boring to watch at.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Bildi on February 09, 2010, 07:56:33 PM
"Tired" is the word I was looking for.  She always looks so damn tired in the movie.

I was shocked to see her looking quite attractive in Donnie Darko.  It's like she aged 20 years between the two movies.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: brawndolicious on February 09, 2010, 11:45:21 PM
What action scenes? He rescues a plane and then spends the entire film stalking Lois Lane and listening to Owl City.
What in BB is of any interest to anybody?  Cheesy paper-thin dialogue, a crackhead trying to voice act, and a goddamn torrent of half-flaccid exposition trying to frame the crackhead as THE BAT™.  That was just a bad movie man.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 09, 2010, 11:53:21 PM
What action scenes? He rescues a plane and then spends the entire film stalking Lois Lane and listening to Owl City.
What in BB is of any interest to anybody?  Cheesy paper-thin dialogue, a crackhead trying to voice act, and a goddamn torrent of half-flaccid exposition trying to frame the crackhead as THE BAT™.  That was just a bad movie man.

Batman Begins is not a bad movie.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: MCD on February 09, 2010, 11:56:19 PM
batman is never bad.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 09, 2010, 11:59:05 PM
batman is never bad.

Except Batman and Robin.  :-\
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: MCD on February 10, 2010, 12:00:19 AM
still good for fapping to batman's nipples.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 10, 2010, 12:00:58 AM
Batman Begins is the best superhero "origin" film ever made. Some people are on crazy pills in this thread.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Powerslave on February 10, 2010, 12:02:09 AM
Batman Begins is the best superhero "origin" film ever made. Some people are on crazy pills in this thread.

cool story bro
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 10, 2010, 12:03:17 AM
Batman Begins is the best superhero "origin" film ever made. Some people are on crazy pills in this thread.

cool story bro

:patel
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 10, 2010, 12:06:46 AM
The first half of Batman Begins >>>> anything in Superman Returns.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Powerslave on February 10, 2010, 12:07:44 AM
The first half of Batman Begins >>>> anything in Superman Returns.

cool story bro
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 10, 2010, 12:11:06 AM
Metallica > Iron Maiden
Master of Puppets > Powerslave
Ride the Lightning > Number of the Beast

spoiler (click to show/hide)
cool story, bro?
[close]
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Powerslave on February 10, 2010, 12:16:23 AM
Metallica > Iron Maiden
Master of Puppets > Powerslave
Ride the Lightning > Number of the Beast

spoiler (click to show/hide)
cool story, bro?
[close]

super cool story bro
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: brawndolicious on February 10, 2010, 12:36:31 AM
Batman Begins is the best superhero "origin" film ever made. Some people are on crazy pills in this thread.
seeing a realistic portrayal of the "origin" of probably the most iconic and one of the oldest modern comic book heroes just comes off as really self-important and boring.  Burton did it right, you show the backstory for anybody that didn't know it and let them suspend disbelief as you bring the stylized world together on the screen.

You do not tell me all about how he learned that killing is wrong.  or that the bat cape has micro-polymer bullshit. And seriously, who the FUCK wants to hear Bale growl everytime he puts on a plastic mask?

The movie had nothing to do with what makes batman good.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Powerslave on February 10, 2010, 12:37:34 AM
ah you dumb fuck
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 10, 2010, 12:45:14 AM
Batman Begins is the best superhero "origin" film ever made. Some people are on crazy pills in this thread.
seeing a realistic portrayal of the "origin" of probably the most iconic and one of the oldest modern comic book heroes just comes off as really self-important and boring.  Burton did it right, you show the backstory for anybody that didn't know it and let them suspend disbelief as you bring the stylized world together on the screen.

You do not tell me all about how he learned that killing is wrong.  or that the bat cape has micro-polymer bullshit. And seriously, who the FUCK wants to hear Bale growl everytime he puts on a plastic mask?

The movie had nothing to do with what makes batman good.

It was an interesting change of pace. Not every single movie based on a comic book absolutely has to about total suspension of disbelief and stylized worlds. We had five Batman movies that already did that, so why get so bent out of shape when one does things differently? And why NOT explore more of the story that everyone already thinks they know everything about?
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 10, 2010, 12:49:45 AM
God forbid some of us want a realistic, character-driven take on a superhero origin story.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Powerslave on February 10, 2010, 12:53:25 AM
God forbid some of us want a realistic, character-driven take on a supercool origin story (bro).

lollzz
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Diunx on February 10, 2010, 01:03:19 AM
I think am nintenho has the worse taste in movies on this board.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 10, 2010, 01:05:44 AM
I am not a Batman Begins hater really, but ... realistic?
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Bildi on February 10, 2010, 01:06:06 AM
The movie had nothing to do with what makes batman good.

Perhaps (I wouldn't know, not a Batman fan).  It was a good movie, however.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 10, 2010, 01:09:57 AM
I am not a Batman Begins hater really, but ... realistic?

Realistic in comparison to other superhero films. You only have to suspend your disbelief on a few relatively minor plot points to be able to accept the entire film.

The movie had nothing to do with what makes batman good.

What makes Batman good, in your opinion, and what Batman stories have done a good job emphasizing this?
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Powerslave on February 10, 2010, 01:17:43 AM
see I tried to prevent this shit from happening and now look what you guys done did gg
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Mandark on February 10, 2010, 01:53:39 AM
You know what scene in BB was good?  The one at the docks.  It's filmed like a slasher movie, where Batman's the psychopath lurking off camera, and the thugs are a bunch of coeds who just smoked a joint.

It does a nifty job of showing what his approach is all about, and is way more effective than any of the fighting scenes.


I am not a Batman Begins hater really, but ... realistic?

Realistic in comparison to other superhero films. You only have to suspend your disbelief on a few relatively minor plot points to be able to accept the entire film.

Like the part where a billionaire dresses up like a bat to fight against a centuries-old secret society that has brought down some of the world's greatest cities, with the help of ninja training he received from that cult itself?  Dude.  You maybe want to reconsider that.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 10, 2010, 01:55:28 AM
Like I said, a few relatively minor plot points. It all makes sense in context.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: brawndolicious on February 10, 2010, 01:58:22 AM
1. We only had two good batman movies. wtf are you talking about?

2. The backstory didn't help you understand the main storyline any better at all.  It was a masturbatory fluff piece on somebody already well-recognized.  All the details in it were all general knowledge too.

What makes Batman good, in your opinion, and what Batman stories have done a good job emphasizing this?
A detective noir like setting where we get to see psychopaths with style.  I don't really care why batman is the way he is.  He is meant to be the stereotype every little boy wants to grows up to be and has paper thin explanations for why he does anything.  Batman is a good franchise because it is completely psychologically unrealistic.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Ichirou on February 10, 2010, 01:58:43 AM
I think am nintenho has the worse taste in movies on this board.

Trying to have a discussion about anything with nintenho is bizarre because he uses some weird form of logic no other human does.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 10, 2010, 02:04:30 AM
You want paper-thin characterization? I remember you bashing the fuck out of a recent film for that very reason.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 10, 2010, 02:05:18 AM
I am not a Batman Begins hater really, but ... realistic?

it's relative

Past Batman films had a car making a 90 degree turn using grapple hook.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: brawndolicious on February 10, 2010, 02:09:11 AM
You want paper-thin characterization? I remember you bashing the fuck out of a recent film for that very reason.
batman begins had all of the same explanations for why bruce wayne adopted a vigilante cosplay lifestyle.  I mean I've never seen a form of media that made that decision seem like a  logical way to grieve over your dead parents.  personally I see bruce wayne as a kid in an adult's body that is really only there so that you can see the even more insane and sick psychopaths that he fights.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 10, 2010, 02:12:21 AM
You want paper-thin characterization? I remember you bashing the fuck out of a recent film for that very reason.
batman begins had all of the same explanations for why bruce wayne adopted a vigilante cosplay lifestyle.  I mean I've never seen a form of media that made that decision seem like a  logical way to grieve over your dead parents.  personally I see bruce wayne as a kid in an adult's body that is really only there so that you can see the even more insane and sick psychopaths that he fights.

Dude.

His city is overrun by mobsters and psychopaths. His parents were killed by one of these criminals. He wants to make a stand against them, but he can't do that as Bruce Wayne. As a man, he can be corrupted or destroyed, but as a symbol he can be something more. As a symbol, he can make a difference. He chooses something elemental, something terrifying, something that once terrified him. And it just so happens that he's a billionaire with ninja training.

It makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: brawndolicious on February 10, 2010, 02:40:55 AM
Except that bruce wayne is very logical and deceptive and shouldn't really believe that a psychopath would be scared by that.  And yes, the villains and reporters regularly make fun of his costume and ideals every chance they get.  Maybe some people are scared of what makes him so unorthodox as a human but there was never a real explanation for why he is the way he is.  They basically never cared before and I'm all right with that since we're talking about a fucking comic book hero.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2010, 02:47:50 AM
I think am nintenho has the worse taste in movies on this board.

Trying to have a discussion about anything with nintenho is bizarre because he uses some weird form of logic no other human does.

dude: godfather is such an amazing film
am nintenho: actually it has no creative value considering the novel was so shitty
dude: wtf, you're distinguished mentally-challenged
am nintenho: (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/Smileys/default/deal.gif)
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: brawndolicious on February 10, 2010, 02:51:20 AM
I already said way too many times before that I think godfather is enjoyable and has great acting, directing, etc but shit writing.  It's trashy, exploitative, and just not worth praising.  A lot of good was done around it though.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2010, 02:55:32 AM
smh
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: ManaByte on February 10, 2010, 02:59:00 AM
Donner's Superman is still the model to follow for superhero origin movies.

Batman Begins at least had Joe Chill kill his parents but the rest was a snooze.

Green Lantern has it right in the script.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 10, 2010, 03:00:52 AM
EB must be pretty f'in' bored if we're arguing about Batman Begins. Someone start a new thread, i got nothin'
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 10, 2010, 07:36:05 AM
I liked Batman Begins.

People dogged on Katie Holmes but Maggie Gyllenhaal was fucking terrible in TDK.  At least they had the good sense to kill her.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Mandark on February 10, 2010, 09:47:38 AM
Maggie Gyllenhaal was fucking terrible in TDK.

No, you are terrible, in forums!
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Dickie Dee on February 10, 2010, 11:01:25 AM
Katie Holmes was perfectly fine in BB, just the Tomkat nonsense reached peak insufferableness around the time BB was released and she got dinged for it.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 10, 2010, 11:07:23 AM
Katie Holmes was perfectly fine in BB, just the Tomkat nonsense reached peak insufferableness around the time BB was released and she got dinged for it.

I didn't really like her that much because she always seemed to have this lopsided smirk on her face, even when she was talking about something really serious.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2010, 11:07:58 AM
that fucking smirk, all movie :lol
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Mupepe on February 10, 2010, 11:09:56 AM
Hey guys, Batman Begins is a terrible fucking movie.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 10, 2010, 11:11:15 AM
Hey guys, Batman Begins is a terrible fucking movie.

Nah.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Mupepe on February 10, 2010, 11:14:52 AM
yuh huh!
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 10, 2010, 11:50:08 AM
Nuh-uh!
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2010, 12:17:44 PM
Holmes and Gylenhall were bad in both movies

Bale was bad in both movies
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Himu on February 10, 2010, 12:22:48 PM
In one of my film classes, we were studying camera work and different accessories to help keep a stable camera, most notably a steadicam.

I said,"Haha, Christopher Nolan could use one of those."

"Who's that?"

 :smug
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Bildi on February 10, 2010, 04:38:19 PM
Speaking of which, whoever directed Bourne Supremacy 2 & 3 is in serious need of a fucking tripod.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 10, 2010, 06:19:15 PM
Hey guys, Batman Begins is a terrible fucking movie.

I don't agree. I think it was a good reboot and Liam Neeson :hyper  I also watch it from time and time and it still holds up for me.

The Dark Knight sucks more and more upon repeat viewings though.  I blame it on Maggie Gyllenhaal.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Bildi on February 10, 2010, 06:26:39 PM
Greengrass would piss on your face if he read that.

If he's the director, then I imagine he would.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Bildi on February 10, 2010, 06:37:55 PM
No, I just mean to say I found the shaky camera way over the top and totally distracting.  They're the only two films where I've ever been distracted by camera movement.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: chronovore on February 10, 2010, 06:38:44 PM
Superman Returns>Batman Begins
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So wrong. Like "wrong times two."
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What action scenes? He rescues a plane and then spends the entire film stalking Lois Lane and listening to Owl City.
Yeah, that's how I felt. Supes stalking... stalking Lois in her happy new life with a family, it was insanely creepy. And then for the villain, they can't come up with anything better than the same plot of Superman The Movie? Seriously?

It's like comparing aids to space aids.  You don't want either, but you really don't want space aids.
:rofl
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 17, 2010, 11:33:05 AM
even better news:

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/james-cameron-mentors-spider-man?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=news&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+totalfilm/imdbnews+%28Total+Film+IMDb+aggregate%29

Cameron is mentoring the new spider-man movie.

 :teehee
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 17, 2010, 11:36:03 AM
How is that good news? His screenplay for Spider-Man was horrible.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Mandark on February 17, 2010, 11:37:12 AM
I happen to think Purse Snatcher was a lively, multidimensional character.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 17, 2010, 11:43:36 AM
Great news. Cameron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raimi.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 17, 2010, 11:57:30 AM
I happen to think Purse Snatcher was a lively, multidimensional character.

:lol
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" new Superman while working on Batman 3
Post by: Diunx on February 17, 2010, 01:06:54 PM
I'm getting really excited about the spidey reboot!

:bow Cameron :bow2
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: ManaByte on February 24, 2010, 04:44:27 PM
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-david-goyer-hired-to-write-superman-the-man-of-steel-9286

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Today is huge comic book movie news Wednesday. With the Captain America finalists breaking over at Marvel, we got something from the world of DC.

Our notorious trusted source 'Pinche Taco' came up big for us...

I know a lot of you folks are going to ask "Isn't Goyer writing the third Batman film?" Goyer is only helping in the story, he ain't writing it.  Just like The Dark Knight where he only helped with the story.

Without any further adieu..

Hola Chicos, Pinche Taco here with the latest blatherings de nada de los Ninos de Hollywood!

So you will believe un hombre can fly!  Te Juro.  The talented David Stephen Goyer, the man who made sure Nolan stuck to the legend of El Dark Knight, has been hired to write the next chapter.  Here is what El Taco can tell all you ninos....

   1. Thomas Tull, the head of Legendary, got tired of all the discussion and decided chingate, let's do it.  So he went to Goyer and Goyer had an idea that actually takes the movies back to the John Byrne incarnation.  Modern.  Believable.  FUN!  So Tull got Goyer hired.
   2. The film will not be called Superman and will be called THE MAN OF STEEL.

   3. Brandon Routh will not star in the film.
   4. Nic Cage will NOT star in the fllm (lol)
   5. Bryan Singer is not expected to direct.

Conoces como Mark Millar walks around acting like he was going to write it?  El Taco discovered that this was always BULLSHIT.  Paul Levitz hated the guy and he was never even discussed to write it.  He made all that "almost" stuff up.

I can tell you that Goyer's story involves Luthor and Brainiac.  It is NOT an origin and assumes audiences already know about Lois, Clark, Jimmy and Perry.  I know the Daily Planet is struggling due to the internet.  And I know it sets up a huge Kryptonian mythology.

El Taco is muy excited about this.  This could be the Superman movie we deserve!

Yo soy El Taco y yo digo adios!

Stay tuned as the story develops.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 24, 2010, 07:10:03 PM
Not being an origin story gives me some hope, but not too much.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 24, 2010, 07:13:26 PM
I will laugh if Goyer's script almost identical to the idea I came up with and told CajoleJuice about a few months ago.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 24, 2010, 07:15:59 PM
David Goyer? :hippolaugh
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 24, 2010, 07:21:07 PM
Goyer's sort of a control freak too (see how much worse every Blade sequel got) so it has a lot of potential to suck balls starting from the script.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: ManaByte on February 24, 2010, 07:21:15 PM
Take Kevin Smith's Superman Lives script, remove all the John Peters shit, and release that.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2010, 07:23:27 PM
I will laugh if Goyer's script almost identical to the idea I came up with and told CajoleJuice about a few months ago.

And you'll be crying on the inside.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 24, 2010, 07:24:54 PM
Same principals too, with the exception of one character (who knows, maybe he'll be included). I'll be interested to see if Goyer and I are on the same page in terms of where to take the Kryptonian mythology.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Diunx on February 24, 2010, 07:32:27 PM
Take Kevin Smith's Superman Lives script, remove all the John Peters shit, and release that.

God no, that script sucked cock.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 24, 2010, 07:35:18 PM
I'll be happy if the story and writing are at the level of the Nolan Batman films

Yeah, good luck with that.  :lol
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: ManaByte on February 24, 2010, 07:35:49 PM
Take Kevin Smith's Superman Lives script, remove all the John Peters shit, and release that.

God no, that script sucked cock.

It was better than Avatar.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: ManaByte on February 24, 2010, 07:36:22 PM
They should really bring in James Cameron specifically to script the action scenes.

Oh fuck no.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 24, 2010, 07:40:26 PM
David Goyer  :-X
Though I guess the first two blade films were okay. And that one episode of Freaky Links.
The first one was good, the second one was where he took over directing cause he couldn't communicate his artistic vision which made it pretty over-the-top and ridiculous, and the third one was apparently balls.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: chronovore on February 24, 2010, 07:56:52 PM
David Goyer  :-X
Though I guess the first two blade films were okay. And that one episode of Freaky Links.
The first one was good, the second one was where he took over directing cause he couldn't communicate his artistic vision which made it pretty over-the-top and ridiculous, and the third one was apparently balls.
The first one was surprisingly good, the second one was GREAT. Del Toro's, right? It felt like a comic book, start to finish.

The third one was utter balls.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 24, 2010, 08:02:52 PM
Goyer directed Trinity, Del Toro directed Blade II.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 24, 2010, 08:04:07 PM
Yeah, Del Toro directed Blade II and it was awesome.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Diunx on February 24, 2010, 08:43:37 PM
They should really bring in James Cameron specifically to script the action scenes.

Oh fuck no.

Yeah, please don't let the writer of Terminator, Aliens, Terminator 2, True Lies, First Blood Part 2, and Avatar write the action scenes, just make sure that the script is identical to the one the jersey girl guy wrote!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 24, 2010, 08:55:29 PM
well cameron's ego wouldn't let him stop at just directing the acting scenes.  he'd write and direct everything, which is usually a bad, bad idea.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Mandark on February 25, 2010, 12:05:57 AM
Mxyzptlk!

How would that not be awesome?
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Ichirou on February 25, 2010, 12:34:29 AM
Take Kevin Smith's Superman Lives script, remove all the John Peters shit, and release that.

You have the worst taste of any human being that's ever lived.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 25, 2010, 12:43:08 AM
Mxyzptlk!

How would that not be awesome?

my god, you may be on to something. The craziness they could get up to visually...that could be REALLY fun. In fact, they should go all Silver Age and use chocolate kryponite and have Lois change into a black woman and Jimmy change into a giant turtle and the whole nine yards.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Mandark on February 25, 2010, 12:46:30 AM
I know, right!?

I say the dark, verisimilar reinvention has run its course.  We got Batman, James Bond, and Robin Hood.  Time to let camp, color, and imagination get a turn a turn at the wheel.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 25, 2010, 12:55:26 AM
on the other hand, Batman and Robin.

But yes, assuming talented people work on it, I really like that. Superman should be for all ages anyway.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Ichirou on February 25, 2010, 12:58:47 AM
Great idea, but it'll never happen. :(
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 25, 2010, 01:09:59 AM
Great idea, but it'll never happen. :(

It's happening in my head!
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 25, 2010, 01:13:45 AM
I know, right!?

I say the dark, verisimilar reinvention has run its course.  We got Batman, James Bond, and Robin Hood.  Time to let camp, color, and imagination get a turn a turn at the wheel.
I would also say that Superman Returns squarely fit into the "emo-manchild" mold.  I definitely agree with you though.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Mandark on February 25, 2010, 01:14:03 AM
Great idea, but it'll never happen. :(

It's the sort of project a studio would back if Speed Racer had grossed $300 million.

...

 :'(
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Cormacaroni on February 25, 2010, 01:44:28 AM
I know, right!?

I say the dark, verisimilar reinvention has run its course.  We got Batman, James Bond, and Robin Hood.  Time to let camp, color, and imagination get a turn a turn at the wheel.
I would also say that Superman Returns squarely fit into the "emo-manchild" mold.  I definitely agree with you though.

I would also say that pumpkins are orange. I definitely agree with you though.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 25, 2010, 02:15:40 AM
I know, right!?
I say the dark, verisimilar reinvention has run its course.  We got Batman, James Bond, and Robin Hood.  Time to let camp, color, and imagination get a turn a turn at the wheel.
I would also say that Superman Returns squarely fit into the "emo-manchild" mold.  I definitely agree with you though.
I would also say that pumpkins are orange. I definitely agree with you though.
I can see how that would be relevant if this was a thread discussing future evolutions of pumpkins.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Diunx on February 25, 2010, 10:13:41 AM
Mxyzptlk!

How would that not be awesome?

I can already see nerd rage if the actor doesn't correctly pronounce his name backwards :lol
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 25, 2010, 10:24:02 AM
Eh, I'm not really for that. I think Superman should be colorful and entertaining, but that doesn't necessarily mean it requires a campy, buzz-killer like Mxyxptlk.

I've felt that the joy has been sucked out of this franchise. Superman is inhuman and borderline creepy, he has no real adversaries to fight, nothing to get your blood pumping, etc.

Goyer should tap in that feeling, that childlike feeling of wanting to be Superman. Someone people can relate to. I don't want to see Superman sulk outside Lois' house like a creepy perv or fight Kevin Spacey over land disputes.

I feel, personally, a great way to address this is with Kal-El's Kryptonian heritage, but it remains to be seen if Goyer is thinking the same thing. Regardless, we need to root for Superman again - and that hasn't happened in a long time. He needs to get the shit beaten out of him.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 25, 2010, 10:32:29 AM
I said it when the last movie came out and I'll sat it again: Superman needs to fight against a REAL enemy. A somewhat creepy, balding Lex Luthor with a chunk of kryptonite is NOT a real villain. Darkseid is a real villain. Apocalypse is a real villain. Braniac is a real villain. Or go crazy and have Ron Perlman as Lobo.

In Superman Returns is just really felt like there was nothing that could really get in Superman's way until "Oh, whoops, Luthor's got some kryptonite". That's just not going to cut it.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Diunx on February 25, 2010, 10:39:27 AM
The problem with Darkseid is that he doesn't come alone, you have all that fourth world stuff to develop in a two hours movie so the end result will be shit, the only way to do Darkseid right is to develop him during two or more films, between apokolips and new genesis there are too many characters for just one movie.
Title: Re: Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 25, 2010, 10:46:48 AM
the only way to do Darkseid right is to develop him during two or more films

Which I would be okay with.