fuck it, reading up on Fable 3, I'm going to remain optimistic and believe whatever Molyneux says.
:wtf That's like the only genuinely great thing about these games! What, should it be more dorkster fantasy Americana? You're worse than Borys, like OMG.
I ignored most of the press for Fable 1 and I really enjoyed it. I wouldn't play through it again, as I got 100% the first time I went through, but it's far from a bad game. I ignored most of the press on Fable 2 and I'll try it out and probably come away with the same opinion.
My only real issue with Lionhead's games is that their art styles are strange as fuck.
fuck it, reading up on Fable 3, I'm going to remain optimistic and believe whatever Molyneux says.
Liking Fable 2 is one thing. Believing Molyneux, that's just silly. The dude is connected to some genuine classics, but these days, the dude is all PR. And a good one; people buy what he says, every time.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8qe9_hLXiI&hd=1[/youtube]
I wish they'd just jettison the whole expression thing altogether.
Peter Molyneux has said that the Fable series should no longer be considered an RPG, but more of an action/adventure series.
This revelation was announced during X10 last night, when Lionhead was showing Fable III to attendees.
“I’m not sure I even call Fable an RPG anymore,” he said (via CVG). “Certainly not a 1990s RPG, for sure. In a way, you could look at it and say it’s like an action adventure.
“There’s a lot of drama, there a lot of story, there’s a lot of emotion in there – but with leveling up. I love that leveling up. I’m not the sort of person that likes being given a pre-planned character and told ‘this is you no matter what’” .
Other than the HUD changes announced last night, the expression system has been removed, with the developers opting for a touch system instead.
Now, instead of frowning, smiling and the like, you will be able to drag, fondle, hug, shake, and more.
Fable's a fun time killer and I wouldn't mind if they just presented these games as is...but they're always like "EXPERIENCE A WORLD FULL OF EMOTION AND FEELINGS AND PLANT A SEED AND WATCH IT GROW AND GET AIDS BUT FIND THE CURE" and in reality, it's like some kooky english fantasy world that doesn't even take itself seriously with a bunch of very shallow game mechanics.
The morphing system had gone terribly wrong for some players," he explains. "Any female characters in the Fable world ended up looking big and bulky, like Russian shotputters. We had thousands of posts from women saying they wanted to be thin and lithe."http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234742 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234742)
Lionhead responded accordingly: Your hero's physical growth is now determined by their weapon choice. Pick a broad-sword and you'll emerge a beefcake; opt for a pistol and you'll stay skinny.
QuoteThe morphing system had gone terribly wrong for some players," he explains. "Any female characters in the Fable world ended up looking big and bulky, like Russian shotputters. We had thousands of posts from women saying they wanted to be thin and lithe."http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234742 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234742)
Lionhead responded accordingly: Your hero's physical growth is now determined by their weapon choice. Pick a broad-sword and you'll emerge a beefcake; opt for a pistol and you'll stay skinny.
:rofl :rofl
I'll gamefly it. I don't have a problem with Fable. It's not the world's best series. It's not the world's worst series. It's an average series. Which means when I get around to it, I'll get around to it.Sometimes I wonder how my opinion of games will change if I have access to rentals. I buy whatever even vaguely catches my eye at a reasonable price whenever I'm in the USA. Trips to game stores are like pilgrimages for me.
I'll gamefly it. I don't have a problem with Fable. It's not the world's best series. It's not the world's worst series. It's an average series. Which means when I get around to it, I'll get around to it.Sometimes I wonder how my opinion of games will change if I have access to rentals. I buy whatever even vaguely catches my eye at a reasonable price whenever I'm in the USA. Trips to game stores are like pilgrimages for me.
Fable was such a promising little title.
Fable was awesome, magical. I never played such a good fantasy action-RPG before.(http://imgur.com/TBWOf.jpg)
Fable was awesome, magical. I never played such a good fantasy action-RPG before.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClqEUh3OL2g&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
I like how you can charge up farts in this one (can you do that in the second one? Haven't played it yet)
Microsoft exclusive RPG Fable II was "terribly messy", "rushed" and suffered from "huge design flaws", creator Peter Molyneux has admitted.
Speaking at the Develop Conference in Brighton this afternoon, the Lionhead Studios boss went through a long list of Fable II features that he hated, before telling the audience how Fable 3 will improve upon them.
"Fable II, let's be honest about it, it has some terribly messy things about it," he said.
"Half of that, again being honest, was because we rushed at the end and we had this terrible phase where, the world looks this beautiful with this many game features, and then slowly transitioned into being less beautiful.
"On Fable II we had, at one point, 67,000 bugs. The Microsoft Test team rated us super black. No-one had been black before. They'd been red and orange and green. But we were super black. They said it's utterly impossible for anybody to come out as super black.
"That's why we had to reduce down what we had. But, to be honest with you, there were also huge design flaws in Fable II."
Molyneux said Lionhead failed to concentrate on Fable II's unique selling points. Players used only 60 per cent of the content of the game, research revealed. "It's just a crazy thing to do," Molyneux said.
Molyneux hated Fable II's map: "It was boring and tedious and no-one even knew it was a map." And he hated Fable II's female characters: "In Fable II, all our women looked like Russian shot putters."
In Fable 3, the 2D GUI has been replaced with a 3D space called The Sanctuary. And the game's women "have curves and soft bits".
One criticism of Fable II Lionhead appears to have failed to address is long loading times. "I hate loading. I really hate it. I know the journalists – wonderful people that they are – are going to slag us off about loading. We tried to minimise it.
"But we've got a big problem. Because a lot of our world is persistent, we can't afford the memory. We tried and experimented with trying to stream load it, but we didn't actually get it working."
Molyneux hated Fable II's map: "It was boring and tedious and no-one even knew it was a map." And he hated Fable II's female characters: "In Fable II, all our women looked like Russian shot putters."
Series is godawful. Let it die.I'LL LET YOU DIE, COHEN
Fable II was "rushed"...we know Peter,we knowQuoteMicrosoft exclusive RPG Fable II was "terribly messy", "rushed" and suffered from "huge design flaws", creator Peter Molyneux has admitted.
Speaking at the Develop Conference in Brighton this afternoon, the Lionhead Studios boss went through a long list of Fable II features that he hated, before telling the audience how Fable 3 will improve upon them.
"Fable II, let's be honest about it, it has some terribly messy things about it," he said.
"Half of that, again being honest, was because we rushed at the end and we had this terrible phase where, the world looks this beautiful with this many game features, and then slowly transitioned into being less beautiful.
"On Fable II we had, at one point, 67,000 bugs. The Microsoft Test team rated us super black. No-one had been black before. They'd been red and orange and green. But we were super black. They said it's utterly impossible for anybody to come out as super black.
"That's why we had to reduce down what we had. But, to be honest with you, there were also huge design flaws in Fable II."
Molyneux said Lionhead failed to concentrate on Fable II's unique selling points. Players used only 60 per cent of the content of the game, research revealed. "It's just a crazy thing to do," Molyneux said.
Molyneux hated Fable II's map: "It was boring and tedious and no-one even knew it was a map." And he hated Fable II's female characters: "In Fable II, all our women looked like Russian shot putters."
In Fable 3, the 2D GUI has been replaced with a 3D space called The Sanctuary. And the game's women "have curves and soft bits".
One criticism of Fable II Lionhead appears to have failed to address is long loading times. "I hate loading. I really hate it. I know the journalists – wonderful people that they are – are going to slag us off about loading. We tried to minimise it.
"But we've got a big problem. Because a lot of our world is persistent, we can't afford the memory. We tried and experimented with trying to stream load it, but we didn't actually get it working."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/molyneux-fable-2-was-rushed (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/molyneux-fable-2-was-rushed)
:lol
I was hoping to communicate solely through farting :-\Ah, emergent gameplay through farts. IIRC you can do that in Fable 2, though it stands that some will revere you while others revile you.
Peter Molyneux, the main man behind Fable, dropped some good news and some bad news about the next game in that series today: Fable III will not support Microsoft's Kinect controller when the game ships later this year.
But Molyneux says that Kinect support—in some still unknown form—will come to Fable III at after launch, according to a report from Joystiq. Which makes sense, given that Fable III will arrive on the Xbox 360 on October 26, a week before Kinect's arrives on November 4.
That report indicates that whatever motion control camera support was planned for Fable III didn't meet the expectations of developer Lionhead Studios. So, regardless of one crucial half of this combination being unavailable alongside the other, it appears that Kinect support is still TBD.
QuotePeter Molyneux, the main man behind Fable, dropped some good news and some bad news about the next game in that series today: Fable III will not support Microsoft's Kinect controller when the game ships later this year.
But Molyneux says that Kinect support—in some still unknown form—will come to Fable III at after launch, according to a report from Joystiq. Which makes sense, given that Fable III will arrive on the Xbox 360 on October 26, a week before Kinect's arrives on November 4.
That report indicates that whatever motion control camera support was planned for Fable III didn't meet the expectations of developer Lionhead Studios. So, regardless of one crucial half of this combination being unavailable alongside the other, it appears that Kinect support is still TBD.
:lol
Molyneux is so full of shit its coming out of his ears.
I only got that doll one because some random orb guy just started giving them all to me.That's Molyneux's dream scenario: chickenhawking in Albion.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh7uekoQ1Rg[/youtube]
RPG overload incoming
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I married as many prostitutes as possible in Fable 2 and kept them in separate areas to keep them happy.you had a kid with a dude? and that's an achievement??
The only non-prostitute I married was some guy who I wanted to have a baby with for an achievement. Man I was a bitch.
I don't understand why Fable has continued to abandon its roots with each game. The first Fable game was fine, the hype was ridiculous, but if you put that aside when you played the game, it was a solid ARPG. However, like, each game in the series advertises fixing something that didn't need fixing. The game was already linear, but they added a guide to tell you were to go. The combat was never overwhelming, but they added a stupid fucking dog into the game. Now in Fable 3, the menus were perfectly fine before, as well as light RPG elements, but now they're completely gone!
Not a big fable guy but I think they are making the right move similar to Mass Effect. The "RPG" elements of Fable were always some of the the weakest elements to me. Probably better to stop overly pretending it is that and become the somewhat more open Zelda with moral choices it was always destined to be.
The menus were totally craptastic. They're slow laggy and unintuitive. Fable 1 had awesome menus.
I don't remember what the inventory like in Fable, I remember liking the game A LOT though. I played 2 until I escaped from capture then got bored. I don't really know why but I definitely found Fable more compelling than Fable 2.
I don't remember what the inventory like in Fable, I remember liking the game A LOT though. I played 2 until I escaped from capture then got bored. I don't really know why but I definitely found Fable more compelling than Fable 2.
Oh I can tell you why. Because Fable 1 > Fable 2. Plain and simple. Each game is like a step backward on almost every feature.
You guys make it sound like either Fable was anything above decent.
Fable 1 a Zelda clone? I can see it but it is just as much rpg as a Zelda clone, you get to marry after all and make a lot of "role playing" decisions and IIRC there were no pitfalls in Fable 1. And i wasnt being condescending. Reread what i said, i never said Fable 1 was crap. And who in their right mind would play and beat a game they dont enjoy unless they are a reviewer?
Fable 1 was probably a better game but doesnt gome close to the greatness of Fallout(not 3) or Baldurs gate or Planescape Torment. At the time KotOR was probably the best rpg available. It seems as time passes us we are getting crappier and crappier rpg's and people still love them.
It also sucked bigtime
Fable 1 was probably a better game but doesnt gome close to the greatness of Fallout(not 3) or Baldurs gate or Planescape Torment. At the time KotOR was probably the best rpg available. It seems as time passes us we are getting crappier and crappier rpg's and people still love them.
:rofl You are so dumb. Who compares Fable to FALLOUT, BALDURS GATE, or PLANESCAPE
I have NEVER seen anyone do this. EVER. I am typing in caps so your autism kicks in and you somehow understand.
Hey, for anyone interested Fable 2 is free right now. http://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=2300565&sdfpid=40411&sdop=1&sdfid=9&u2=http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8024d5307f1/?p=1&of=6&bt=0&sb=1&did=00000001-0000-4000-8000-00004d5307f1
Sign into Xbox Live there and purchase it. It's free.
Note: If you don't login, it will say 20 bucks but it's free.
Why is this free weapon DLC that seems to include 2 weapons 240MB?
The scores sound about right.
Now, in order to change your clothing or weapons, or look at the map, or check your quest log--to do anything managerial at all, really--your character has to bodily teleport to a small hub level and then physically run up to the wall in your armory to change your weapons out, or over to the map table to view the world map. It's nice to get a visual representation of things like new clothing before you use them, but this intermediate step between exploring the world and accessing important information starts to make the game feel ponderous after a while.
Why is this free weapon DLC that seems to include 2 weapons 240MB?
Maybe it's a weapon pack with only two weapons unlocked. Get ready to pay for a 6kb file to unlock the other weapons.
So far the game seems to run much smoother and look better too. I am liking it. It seems like all I can do when I talk to people is shake hands and burp though, I was ok with the emotion wheel from the last game.
So far the game seems to run much smoother and look better too. I am liking it. It seems like all I can do when I talk to people is shake hands and burp though, I was ok with the emotion wheel from the last game.
Lionhead's stories and exposition are still insanely heavyhanded
How do you marry a bitch? I unlocked the chest that gives me the marriage, family, house buying abilities but I can't get past Best Friend with this NPC. I have a bunch of wedding rings.
I gave someone on my friend's list like 500 coin who was floating around in my game. I don't have very much money so I just wanted to see if it was an achievement or anything since I didn't check. When I went back to my sanctuary they had gifted me 100,000 coin. Sweet.
how do expressions and whatnot work? there's no wheel right? how do i choose when i want to burp, fart or whatever??
uhhhhhh wow i don't like that
Game is getting better and better. Some of the sidequests are really good. I'm loving the humor too. Definitely the funniest Fable so far :lol
The combat is quite bad though. Very clunky, and the enemies are so stupid. They just stand there and wait to get slashed or shot.
Also encountered a few bugs so far. But nothing game breaking. And my dog is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. He always gets stuck in the most stupid places.
Is this game rpg-lite-lite?
Is this game rpg-lite-lite?
It's the most lite an rpg can be.
Should I bother with Fable II first or skip it and play this instead?
Here is an annoying example of the morality system in this game.spoiler (click to show/hide)I just killed my brother after becoming king and that's an "evil" act. First I don't agree. Second its a lame thing to call it an evil act even if the game wants to label it as something not saintly. Just call it renegade if you want to toss around labels. It just makes the lame morality system in this game even more of a joke.[close]
The quest before you become a king was pretty good.
game is gay and so are all of you for playing itStick to 9/11 threads.
It's hard to keep all of the promises and have 6.5mln gold in the end if you don't cheat. 6.5mln Gold is a lot of money anyway. Keeping a promise sometimes ends up costing 1mln gold.
The only way to accumulate all of that money without cheating is to leave your system on for a few days.
I wonder how Fable 4 will be. Molyneauoeoex' original vision kinda faded away with each installment.
I also hope the game becomes more of an adventure game. The moral choices have become more of a gimmick. Everything is black and white, there's no in between. Just scrap the good/evil parts. With that, you'll automatically scrap the tedious character relationships.
Keep the rpg elements in it, though.
games weird, leftover elements because originally different in first one, no sense because of subsequent different direction, series needs a break, taking dumps at work
I died once. Got gangbanged by a few balverines while making a telephone call with a friend of mine.
Lol, you should've used the gold glitch btw.
I'm kind of losing steam on this game. I think it loses something over Fable 2.
you probably could have done some of the side stuff and you wouldn't have had to leave the game on all night?
eh. in fable 2 i bought shit right from the beginning because the idea of having tons of money later and not having to worry about it seemed too good. halfway through the game I had 6 million dollars. i love all the side shit. collectathons, demon doors, family shit. so i've always done all of that.
fixing up houses in fable 2 raise the value of your home and i'm currently in the process of replacing furniture for every home. *shrug*Yeah, the only way they could have made the "gameplay" of that worse would have been to require the player to carry all the furniture in a poorly balanced stack to the target property before being able to apply it. What a time-consuming and tedious addition to the game.
:lol :lol It's extremely tedious. But I have a strange addiction to the fable series.fixing up houses in fable 2 raise the value of your home and i'm currently in the process of replacing furniture for every home. *shrug*Yeah, the only way they could have made the "gameplay" of that worse would have been to require the player to carry all the furniture in a poorly balanced stack to the target property before being able to apply it. What a time-consuming and tedious addition to the game.
btw does this game have avatar awards? i see people on my list wearing crowns and shit now.http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fable+3+avatar+unlocks
So, whose bright idea was it to not allow money to accumulate while the system is off like it did in Fable 2? Thats just annoying. I cant leave my xbox running unattended for long periods of time.the money glitch involves gifting another profile on your xbox and refusing it and it shows up as a gift in your sanctuary. i think it may have been patched though.
I seen people talking about a money glitch, whats that?
i just became king and man the game is so much more interesting now.
for serious? well fuck. i did my first "day" (which apparently was really 26) and then i got in bowerstone square or whatever and left it on overnight but i'm supposed to be going after some diamond or something.
Stoney, I appreciate your posts in all threads.