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Title: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Himu on February 23, 2010, 12:22:46 PM
New Lord of Shadows interview.

Game sounds promising, well, as promising as it can get.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/02/22/interview-castlevania-lords-of-shadows-dave-cox/

Here's a nice tidbit:

Q: Is this the end for “traditional” Castlevania?

Dave Cox: No, it’s the rebirth of “traditional” Castlevania.
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Post by: demi on February 23, 2010, 12:25:15 PM
The rebirth of CASTLEVANIA 64
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Post by: Himu on February 23, 2010, 12:25:32 PM
:lol
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Post by: Don Flamenco on February 23, 2010, 12:29:06 PM
watching the AVGN series on Castlevania, it made me want a sequel to Super Castlevania IV.  which is what a rebirth of traditional castlevania would be.  Not this GoW rip-off sequel to Curse of Darkness  ::)   WHAT THE FUCK IS A COMBAT CROSS GODDAMMMMMMIT

Konami should make Castlevania 5 for XBL ala Mega Man 9 
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 23, 2010, 12:31:38 PM
New Lord of Shadows interview.

Game sounds promising, well, as promising as it can get.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/02/22/interview-castlevania-lords-of-shadows-dave-cox/

Here's a nice tidbit:

Q: Is this the end for “traditional” Castlevania?

Dave Cox: No, it’s the rebirth of “traditional” Castlevania.

::)
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Post by: OptimoPeach on February 23, 2010, 12:45:11 PM
watching the AVGN series on Castlevania, it made me want a sequel to Super Castlevania IV.  which is what a rebirth of traditional castlevania would be
Ha, I just watched that yesterday
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Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on February 23, 2010, 12:47:03 PM
Didn't they just release Castlevania Rebirth? :smug
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2010, 12:50:33 PM
Because DMC/GoW is as traditional as it gets, am i right
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Post by: Cravis on February 23, 2010, 01:01:17 PM
But..... but .....but Kojima is overseeing this.  :lol

Castlevania needs to stay 2D.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Himu on February 23, 2010, 01:33:01 PM
Rondo > Castlevania IV
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: cool breeze on February 23, 2010, 01:43:04 PM
watching the AVGN series on Castlevania, it made me want a sequel to Super Castlevania IV.  which is what a rebirth of traditional castlevania would be.  Not this GoW rip-off sequel to Curse of Darkness  ::)   WHAT THE FUCK IS A COMBAT CROSS GODDAMMMMMMIT

Konami should make Castlevania 5 for XBL ala Mega Man 9 

Castlevania Rebirth is pretty awesome, but it's Wii only.

as for a Super Castlevania 4 sequel, w/e, I like Rondo gameplay more and that's what Rebirth mostly is, even though it seems everyone love 4 the most.

Also, Igavania games (that term...) weren't bad or anything.  Harmony was bad, then the next three were great, and it ended with OoE, another bad one.  Three out of five isn't that bad, especially when before OoE there was a streak of good games.  I mean, hate on the PS2 games, but the GBA/DS ones were good.  Granted, they didn't change game to game, but w/e.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on February 23, 2010, 01:49:24 PM
Stupid western developers...without the blood of the nihonese flowing in their veins, they can never make a good version of a japanese game.  Kojima's oversight doesn't count, since he's a traitor to his people.  Metroid Prime doesn't count because NOJ was just dictating the game and having the dirty americans to do the grunt work of programming. 

:uguu

back on topic--

I like 4 better than Rondo...totally agree with AVGN about feeling more in control in 4.  It's easier, but the graphics, music, and everything in 4 just push it over the edge for me.   I need to get a copy of 4 for the snes, but for some reason it's going for like $25 to $30 now, instead of the $12-$15 it used to cost. 

How's Dracula X?  why do people hate it?
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Post by: demi on February 23, 2010, 01:52:22 PM
Is CV4 going that much? Better dump my copy then
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Post by: Don Flamenco on February 23, 2010, 02:20:13 PM
according to My glances on eBay/half/amazon over the past few days
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Post by: Positive Touch on February 23, 2010, 05:01:05 PM
why the hell would you buy retro games nowadays?

Is CV4 going that much? Better dump my copy then

same here
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Post by: Don Flamenco on February 23, 2010, 05:19:34 PM
why the hell would you buy retro games nowadays?

Is CV4 going that much? Better dump my copy then

same here

because your mom
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 23, 2010, 05:42:30 PM
Anything to break the excruciating monotony that is the Metroidvania title is fine with me.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Positive Touch on February 23, 2010, 11:04:54 PM
why the hell would you buy retro games nowadays?

Is CV4 going that much? Better dump my copy then

same here

because your mom
actually my mom enjoys newer games more than the old ones

also is it it wrong that iga's attempt to make a more cohesive cv timeline totally gave me nerd boners?
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 24, 2010, 12:32:33 AM
why the hell would you buy retro games nowadays?

Is CV4 going that much? Better dump my copy then

same here

because your mom
actually my mom enjoys newer games more than the old ones

also is it it wrong that iga's attempt to make a more cohesive cv timeline totally gave me nerd boners?



I just bought a bunch of retro stuff :'(    I will buy someone's copy of Castlevania 4...if anyone wants to charge less than 20 for it.

The belmont storyline in the early games was cool, but all that Soma Cruz stuff was pretty ghey
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 24, 2010, 11:29:19 AM
I wonder if this will be another case of Japanese publishing giant saying "WE NEED A HUGE AAA WESTERN FRANCHISE" and then budgeting $2.95 and a paper cup
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Post by: maxy on August 02, 2010, 03:36:01 PM
Some interesting news concerning 360 version

2 discs...nothing unusual except

Quote
first LOS Xbox disc will offer an install option on the in-game menu, allowing gamers to play the full title off the second disc.

First multi-disc game that allows that

MS  :bow

Game is still perfectly playable without installing of course,but if you have enough space and install you only need one disc...like in PC games


Ending cutscene is 14 minutes long though :lol






Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Bebpo on August 02, 2010, 04:17:47 PM
14 mins for THE ENDING sounds normal for games these days, I don't even know why it's mentioned.  Hell, Gears of War's ending is probably close to that when you include the credits roll.
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Post by: MCD on August 02, 2010, 04:23:45 PM
But Gears credits roll is the best shit ever.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: SantaC on August 02, 2010, 04:48:51 PM
I dont understand why people think this new 3D vania will be better than what IGA used to release? Better production yes, but gameplay will be shitty. Atleast IGA's games has pretty damn good gameplay. Even his butchered 3D castlevania games are campy fun.

Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: SantaC on August 02, 2010, 06:45:04 PM
It should have had an open world to explore!

play curse of darkness
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Post by: Diunx on August 02, 2010, 07:28:36 PM
I think they need to add some destructible environments up in this bitch :rock modern games :rock
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Post by: Shuri on August 02, 2010, 07:36:32 PM
The first castlevanias on the gba were great, but they milked it to death. I'm glad they are rebooting the franchise.
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Post by: MoxManiac on August 02, 2010, 09:31:14 PM
:hyper



:piss IGA :piss2
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Himu on August 02, 2010, 09:41:28 PM
I dont understand why people think this new 3D vania will be better than what IGA used to release? Better production yes, but gameplay will be shitty. Atleast IGA's games has pretty damn good gameplay. Even his butchered 3D castlevania games are campy fun.



I sorta agree but I still have faith. Have you seen the clock tower vid? Worst clocktower in a CV to my memory.
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Post by: Diunx on August 02, 2010, 10:09:57 PM
The clock tower sucks in every castlevania game so that is not really saying much about the quality of this here game.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 02, 2010, 10:33:19 PM
I dont understand why people think this new 3D vania will be better than what IGA used to release? Better production yes, but gameplay will be shitty. Atleast IGA's games has pretty damn good gameplay. Even his butchered 3D castlevania games are campy fun.


agreed.  haven't seen anything about this game that makes me think it isn't the product of Konami going "hey shitty western dev, see God of War? We want that but with Castlevania, thx"
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 05:34:57 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JixWjhLrQ6E[/youtube]

Looks better than any DS Igavania. 

Awesome music, awesome atmosphere that just screams Castlevania.  Good voice acting.  Combat looks solid.  50 stages, 20 hours long.  Gonna be awesome!
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 18, 2010, 05:44:54 PM
looks absolutely awful, Bebpo irredeemable
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 18, 2010, 05:47:43 PM
why are all the subtitles and gameplay instructions in Arial? did they spend so much on the voice acting they couldn't afford a decent font?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
or animator :teehee
[close]
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Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 05:49:26 PM
Iga is a hack.

He hasn't made a great game since SoTN.  Just keeps remaking the same game over and over and over again.


Classic CV >>>>>>>>>> Metroidvania


This looks closer to Drac X than Metroidvania

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rzYmbM8jDo[/youtube]
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Post by: Beezy on August 18, 2010, 05:50:37 PM
I seriously hope this game bombs hard. The GoW clone genre needs to die.
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Post by: demi on August 18, 2010, 05:50:38 PM
Looks like shit... sorry Bebpo. CAstlevania 64 is probably better than this turd.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 05:51:44 PM
Why is castlevania guy riding a fucking magic horse?

Because CV has never had magic or horses in it  ::)
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 18, 2010, 05:53:46 PM
I would rather replay any GBA/DS IGAvania pulled out of a hat, up to and including Circle of the Moon, than this awful-looking turd.

"Press RT to jump onto the Warg."
"Try to block (LT) in time with an enemy attack."
"Press X repeatedly now!!"

zzzz ha hork listening
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Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 05:55:39 PM
It's a tutorial.  It has tutorial messages.  World does not end.

It looks like a competent 3d action game that carries the Castlevania name well.  Will hopefully sell 100x more than the DS games and make sure there's no more metroidvanias ever.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 18, 2010, 05:56:27 PM
glowing runes are the new tribal tattoos

your tech artist spent 6 weeks coding the ambient occlusion lighting system and that means EVERY CREATURE IN THE GAME WILL ALSO BE A LIGHT SOURCE okay

It's a tutorial.  It has tutorial messages.  World does not end.

In a fucking sans-serif Arial-wannabe. How am I supposed to take the game does seriously if the UI artist isn't even going to pretend to bother?
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Post by: The Sceneman on August 18, 2010, 05:58:19 PM
Uh, this looks incredible. Day 1 purchase here.

Also who is Treesong? Triumph?
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Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 05:58:32 PM
Can any of you honestly say you don't want to play this:

(http://i34.tinypic.com/2s9pwde.jpg)
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 18, 2010, 05:59:20 PM
Guys, I'm colorblind. Who's responsible for how boring that looks: me or the environment artists?

Maybe the game can be subtitled "Attack of the Browny Browns"
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Post by: Beezy on August 18, 2010, 05:59:22 PM
Honestly, the combat in this so far looks worse than Dante's Inferno.
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Post by: T-Short on August 18, 2010, 06:00:37 PM
castlespainia huahua. art is pretty good in some places, gameplay and story elements looks pretty terrible. nice phoned-in voicework as well
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 18, 2010, 06:01:06 PM
Guys, I'm colorblind. Who's responsible for how boring that looks: me or the environment artists?

Maybe the game can be subtitled "Attack of the Browny Browns"
If all you're seeing is shades of brown that's not because you're colorblind.

Okay cool I thought maybe there was a rich palette of reds and greens I was missing out on.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 18, 2010, 06:03:19 PM
THREAD HIJACK

Let's talk about Ghost Trick

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwH4ZRyN2B0[/youtube]

:bow Innovative gameplay :bow2
:bow Stylized graphics :bow2
:bow Colors :bow2
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Post by: demi on August 18, 2010, 06:03:28 PM
Can any of you honestly say you don't want to play this:

(http://i34.tinypic.com/2s9pwde.jpg)

Play that? Where is that in the video?
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 06:03:43 PM
It's a tutorial.  It has tutorial messages.  World does not end.

It looks like a competent 3d action game that carries the Castlevania name well.  Will hopefully sell 100x more than the DS games and make sure there's no more metroidvanias ever.

So basically you want more throwaway GoW clones than awesome side-scrolling badass games?

So at some point every 3d CV game became a "derivative" DMC/GoW clone and at no point did 2d CV become a "derivative" Super Metroid clone?

The double standards of the CV fanbase are distinguished mentally-challenged.  CV is about WHIPPIN CV enemies, jumping platforms, and exploring a gothic castle and fighting Drac and Death and shit.  YOU CAN DO THAT IN 3D TOO.  
It's not like the 2d CVs have deep combat.  You slash a guy and then jump back or duck and then slash a game.  On bosses you dodge the pattern and then counter.  YOU CAN DO THAT IN 3D TOO.

If you take Castlevania pre-SoTN and made it into 3d, even if GoW/DMC never existed, it would still look pretty much like this because that's just how CV translates to 3D.  What the hell do you guys want a 3D CV to look like?  Metroid Prime? Tomb Raider?  The only really GoW clone stuff is the health fountains and arena fights.  I wouldn't call it being "cinematic" GoW inspired, since every game on earth is trying to be cinematic these days.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 06:05:12 PM
Yeah, too much brown in the game, right?
(http://i33.tinypic.com/mcys95.jpg)

(http://i35.tinypic.com/2h8020x.jpg)

Next you'll be shouting "wtf, CV isn't supposed to have colors and be green!"
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 18, 2010, 06:06:40 PM
those screenshots don't look any better. still messy and still all one color.
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Post by: demi on August 18, 2010, 06:07:48 PM
Real talk, this looks good for a PS2 game. How were those games again?
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Post by: demi on August 18, 2010, 06:07:56 PM
:teehee
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Post by: T-Short on August 18, 2010, 06:09:01 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JixWjhLrQ6E[/youtube]

lololol the horse riding segment, hahah!

horsewipeout on the speaking tribaltat magichorse

I'M DIE  :lol
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Post by: Beezy on August 18, 2010, 06:09:04 PM
If you take Castlevania pre-SoTN and made it into 3d, even if GoW/DMC never existed, it would still look pretty much like this because that's just how CV translates to 3D.  What the hell do you guys want a 3D CV to look like?  Metroid Prime? Tomb Raider?  The only really GoW clone stuff is the health fountains and arena fights.  I wouldn't call it being "cinematic" GoW inspired, since every game on earth is trying to be cinematic these days.
So this gets a pass for having shitty combat because its Castlevania?
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 06:10:39 PM
Still looks like shit.  Real talk, what is your opinion on GoW?

It's solid beat em up adventure.  The modern mix of Final Fight/Streets of Rage and Zelda.  It's in a separate genre from technical fighters like NG/Bayo/DMC/GH that are a modern mix of Street Fighter x Zelda.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 06:13:00 PM
If you take Castlevania pre-SoTN and made it into 3d, even if GoW/DMC never existed, it would still look pretty much like this because that's just how CV translates to 3D.  What the hell do you guys want a 3D CV to look like?  Metroid Prime? Tomb Raider?  The only really GoW clone stuff is the health fountains and arena fights.  I wouldn't call it being "cinematic" GoW inspired, since every game on earth is trying to be cinematic these days.
So this gets a pass for having shitty combat because its Castlevania?

How is this combat any worse than Scott Pilgrim, 2d CV, Final Fight, Dororo, or any beat 'em up in the last 20 years?

You beat up stuff, you have a handful of moves.  Can get more.  You have subweapons.  You can dodge or block.  You can throw.  Enemies have patterns.  Bosses have patterns. 
Because the guy isn't dying in the tutorial level, the combat sucks?
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Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 06:15:05 PM
And doesn't every 2d CV get a pass for its shitty level design because it's Castlevania?
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 18, 2010, 06:15:34 PM
(http://i37.tinypic.com/iw2cfn.jpg)
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Beezy on August 18, 2010, 06:21:03 PM
If you take Castlevania pre-SoTN and made it into 3d, even if GoW/DMC never existed, it would still look pretty much like this because that's just how CV translates to 3D.  What the hell do you guys want a 3D CV to look like?  Metroid Prime? Tomb Raider?  The only really GoW clone stuff is the health fountains and arena fights.  I wouldn't call it being "cinematic" GoW inspired, since every game on earth is trying to be cinematic these days.
So this gets a pass for having shitty combat because its Castlevania?

How is this combat any worse than Scott Pilgrim, 2d CV, Final Fight, Dororo, or any beat 'em up in the last 20 years?
This is a 3D action game though and it looks worse than most games in that genre. I'm not gonna compare it to 2D beatemups.
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Post by: demi on August 18, 2010, 06:25:45 PM
And doesn't every 2d CV get a pass for its shitty level design because it's Castlevania?

No
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Post by: dicklaurent on August 18, 2010, 06:27:37 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JixWjhLrQ6E[/youtube]

lololol the horse riding segment, hahah!

horsewipeout on the speaking tribaltat magichorse

I'M DIE  :lol

castlespania featuring horsewipeout  :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: iconoclast on August 18, 2010, 06:31:49 PM
I think people complain about God of War clones for two reasons: Firstly, every single action game made by western developers is a God of War clone. Heavenly sword is the only one that broke the pattern, and look how well that turned out. And secondly, and most importantly, God of War's gameplay is mediocre at best. Bayonetta is a Devil May Cry clone with a bullet time gimmick thrown in and people are declaring it game of the year, game of the generation, game of the forever. Clearly, cloning something is not a big issue when the game you are cloning is actually great.

That being said, I am looking forward to renting this someday. And Dante's Inferno. And Wolverine.



Re: Metroidvania. Most people don't complain about Iga's Metroid clones because they are essentially the only team keeping that subgenre alive. Who else is making Metroid games? There was that one Spider-Man game that was kinda like Metroid, and Shadow Complex. That's about it.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on August 18, 2010, 06:39:10 PM
our guide to the world of Castlevania should be Dante Aligaheri :'(
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Post by: T-Short on August 18, 2010, 06:46:28 PM
come to think of it, this is probably the best game to come out of spain since Smashing Drive

[youtube=560,345]lQRfM8ua_qk[/youtube]
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Third on August 18, 2010, 06:46:35 PM
This looks really good. Might be the first decent 3D Castlevania game.
I'd rather have a new Igavania instead of this God of War/DMC clone though.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: cool breeze on August 18, 2010, 06:48:39 PM
I'm still down on this game.  The trailers are nice and all, but watching the gameplay videos just makes it look ridiculously dull.  I'm hoping it is like Darksiders where it looks like a turdy action game and turns out to be a so-so zelda/soul reaver romp.  As it stands it doesn't look like a game I'd want to play.  And I like the God of War games.

Re: Metroidvania. Most people don't complain about Iga's Metroid clones because they are essentially the only team keeping that subgenre alive. Who else is making Metroid games? There was that one Spider-Man game that was kinda like Metroid, and Shadow Complex. That's about it.

Spider-Man game was Web of Shadows.  Griptonite was responsible for it and they made another 'metroidvania' game for the GBA as Spyro Eternal Night.  And you could also argue that games like Batman AA had that same kind of structure.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Himu on August 18, 2010, 06:58:47 PM
THREAD HIJACK

Let's talk about Ghost Trick

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwH4ZRyN2B0[/youtube]

:bow Innovative gameplay :bow2
:bow Stylized graphics :bow2
:bow Colors :bow2

I agree. Let's hijack the thread and talk about Ghost Trick. I didn't even know it was coming out until a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Beezy on August 18, 2010, 07:07:41 PM
Bayonetta is a Devil May Cry clone with a bullet time gimmick thrown in and people are declaring it game of the year, game of the generation, game of the forever. Clearly, cloning something is not a big issue when the game you are cloning is actually great.
The controls in Bayonetta also feel extremely fluid, unlike DMC which is stiff as fuck.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 08:00:09 PM
THREAD HIJACK

Let's talk about Ghost Trick

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwH4ZRyN2B0[/youtube]

:bow Innovative gameplay :bow2
:bow Stylized graphics :bow2
:bow Colors :bow2

I agree. Let's hijack the thread and talk about Ghost Trick. I didn't even know it was coming out until a few weeks ago.

I already talked about Ghost Trick in the other thread.

If you have the patience for the slowest parts of Pheonix Wright, it's a rad game.  If you think PW can get pretty boring at times, it's going to get boring.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 08:03:34 PM
yeah, good luck with ghost trick then.

I think PW is boring about half the time in game#1, 90% of the time in game#2, and 25% of the time in game#3. 

The dude needs to make his games with like 80% less dialogue.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 08:22:30 PM
It sort of does.  But it goes like this:

-watch a scene where someone dies (~5 mins long)
-rewind and rewatch it in real time and manipulate objects to try to figure out how to change the outcome.  It usually checkpoints about 1/2 times during the 5 min scene when you get something major right.
-if you do it wrong and the time runs up it rewinds to the start or the last checkpoint

The problem is that you can't speed up time (or maybe you can later and I didn't get far enough).  Which means when you figure out what to manipulate, you still have to wait for the right timing like a character walking by or phone ringing or something.  This can mean you figure it out in about 10 seconds from watching the scene the first time and then you have to sit and stare at the screen for 2 mins and then you'll have a 5 second window of doing the right thing or it rewinds back and you have to sit through those 2 mins again.  If there was a FF button you could hold down it'd solve everything and make it a neat little puzzle game.  But I got a bunch of chapters in and there wasn't one and it got kind of boring.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: The Sceneman on August 18, 2010, 09:00:04 PM
:piss Intentional derailment :piss2

Lets get back to talking about Castlevania, which looks totally boner I might add
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Trent Dole on August 18, 2010, 10:41:48 PM
3D CV tends to suck ass. Just make a full on original XBLA/PSN game already, fegs.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: The Sceneman on August 19, 2010, 06:50:53 PM
games been dated for October :hyper

so boner...
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Third on August 19, 2010, 08:14:44 PM
Oktober already? That's pretty soon. I thought the game had a chance to become a 2011 release.
But this is good news. I have a feeling this 3D Castlevania won't suck.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: cool breeze on August 27, 2010, 11:40:21 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/preview-walkthrough-castlevania-lords/703749

long video of a new area.  I'm warming up to it, but I laughed at the end when he tames the large monster and then controls it.

there is also this boss battle that is regarded as a spoiler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrIgwciSRlM
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Himu on August 27, 2010, 11:52:17 PM
didn't i fight that boss in devil may cry 4 :rofl
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: iconoclast on August 28, 2010, 12:05:23 AM
Looks like a deleted boss from Shadow of the Colossus.

Deleted because he was so boring to fight.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 28, 2010, 08:46:26 AM
I really don't think this looks too good.
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: SantaC on August 29, 2010, 08:14:35 PM
lord of turds
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: The Sceneman on August 29, 2010, 09:04:06 PM
I dunno, people were ripping on Bionic Commando and look how that turned out? GOTY 2009
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Third on August 31, 2010, 11:14:19 AM
This game looks better and better each day :o
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: cool breeze on September 14, 2010, 01:11:59 AM
apparently this game is supposed to have redone Castlevania tunes EXCEPT for Bloody Tears.  Bloody Tears is the best one!
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: Rman on September 14, 2010, 01:37:25 AM
I was always partial to the Dracula X version of Vampire Killer.  But Bloody Tears is awesome too.

[youtube=560,345]INkJRUDLh5M[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]O84pbywER3Y[/youtube]
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: maxy on September 22, 2010, 05:58:38 AM
Demo coming today exclusivly for PSN+ subscribers.

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PlayStation Plus subscribers will be able to download the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow demo today - a week before everyone else, the European PlayStation blog announced


 :patel
Title: Re: New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania
Post by: etiolate on September 22, 2010, 07:03:38 AM
Why is castlevania guy riding a fucking magic horse?


I love how it just pops out of nowhere.