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Title: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 02, 2010, 12:03:40 AM
1: They have me teaching 3rd grade. This is fine. The kids don't really know the alphabet, but whatever. The big deal is that they switched to a new curriculum. And threw out the old books. But the new books didn't arrive yet. And there's no English Teacher's Edition available.

2: They expanded our office because we were 3 people in a broom closet, but then they added 3 more people, so it's even more cramped than it was before. Also, Koreans NEVER introduce themselves. Everyone sat in silence until I was like, "Oh, hi, I guess we're sharing an office!"
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Himu on March 02, 2010, 12:06:10 AM
Bookmarked.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Reb on March 02, 2010, 12:16:20 AM
2 KOREA 2 KRAZY
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 02, 2010, 12:41:43 AM
They don't really know what to do with me here. Apparently I'm teaching three classes tomorrow, but they're "special classes," so I don't get a co-teacher. However, the kids speak a very low level of English, so I don't think it's going to work out too well. My plan is to use the same lesson plan with every one of the classes, which means that tomorrow will be strictly introduction. The classes are only 45 minutes, but they seem to drag on forever. Teaching the same 45 minute lesson to eight different classes in a week is like watching a really crappy episode of Lost eight times in a row.

My regular classes with regular co-teachers don't start until next week. Not sure what we'll actually do, since no one has discussed lesson plans with me.

I just got told that I'm teaching an afterschool for 1st and 2nd graders 5 days a week. It's 25 buck an hour and it's during school hours, so whatever, but it's a pain. 1st and 2nd Graders REALLLLYYYY don't know the alphabet, I can't talk to them, I can't yell at them, I can't discipline them and I have no co-teacher for afterschool classes. It's also a major pain because that's +5 lesson plans every week.

We're gonna do a fuckload of coloring. I like to make activity booklets on B4 sized paper. Make one a week, I guess?

I know what you mean about the same lesson plan. I teach 3,5,6- 8 classes of each. Some days it's like "2 6 classes, 1 5 class and 2 3 classes" which isn't too bad, but 2 days a week I have 4 of the SAME CLASS in a row. It's like Groundhog Day.

My 5th grade co-teacher is usually a no-show so I don't have to plan in tandem. My 6th grade teacher usually just hands me an 80% complete lesson, I throw in a game or activity and we call it even. I have no idea what to do with 3rd graders, haha.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 02, 2010, 12:47:00 AM
Hahaha. They just said: "Tommorrow, make sure to bring all lesson plans for the next month so they can review". Oh man. I half missed the sheer batshit insanity of this place.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 02, 2010, 02:09:40 PM
C is for cat (but also for celery, omg at that curveball!)"

Korean is phonetic like Japanese, right? That must blow their little minds. :lol
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 02, 2010, 10:08:10 PM
Is that weird girl still there?

No, she left. They also replaced my crazy 5th grade teacher with a lady who speaks no English. I gave a big lesson on the rules and the kids looked at me like I was speaking in tongues. Which I was. This job, man.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 02, 2010, 11:16:33 PM
So would you guys concur with the sentiments expressed here (http://sookyeong.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/2pm-jaebum-offends-koreans-with-myspace-posts-plans-for-official-apology/)?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tristam on March 03, 2010, 01:00:48 AM
No, Korea as a country has its ups and downs, but it's largely pretty awesome. It's not quite as wealthy or advanced as Japan, but you don't have to deal with that perverted uguu shit.

The state of English education as a whole is kind of a joke. But it pays well when you factor in everything you get, and as long as you do your best to help the kids actually learn something, it's not bad at all.

Yeah but Korea is fugly and it has pushy ajummas and some of the most aggressive drivers in the world. So actually it's not that awesome.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 03, 2010, 01:05:53 AM
No, Korea as a country has its ups and downs, but it's largely pretty awesome. It's not quite as wealthy or advanced as Japan, but you don't have to deal with that perverted uguu shit.

The state of English education as a whole is kind of a joke. But it pays well when you factor in everything you get, and as long as you do your best to help the kids actually learn something, it's not bad at all.

I'd agree. That said, Korea is a really unique country. It's not the neon, year 3000 place that Japan is, nor does it have the militarism and economy of China. Korea "grew up" really fast. 50 years ago these people were living in poverty. 30 years ago they were still a broke, fledgling democracy that was led by a zany dictatorial president. Then they struck a devil's bargin with industry and got really fucking rich really fast. You still see it here- Entire cities literally spring up out of the ground. You think particle board sub divisions are bad in the US? Imagine an entire city popping up over the course of a year. I had a friend who lived in one of these new cities and they're built and finished before anyone moves in. It was creepy- Empty parks, empty streets, shops that were open but had no customers. Buses that rode to and fro with no passengers. Weird stuff and it keeps happening. The "miracle" of the South Korean economy is supported by pointless public works projects- They keep extending the subway to pointless locations, they build huge parks in places no one goes. Unemployment is ridiculous, but the government hides it by hiring enormous numbers of workers part time. But I'm getting off point.

Someone said to me that a lot of Koreans are still figuring out where they are. They went from being the "Hermit Nation" to being a fully globalized, modernized, industrialized nation in about 20 or 25 years. Older Koreans don't really know where they fit in and younger Koreans aren't quite old enough to take the cultural reins. It's just a weird place that has a very uneasy relationship with all the trappings of being a "global" nation. It's still incredibly cloistered- They have their own very productive movie, music and games industries. They have their own TV shows and dramas. They don't "need" the rest of the world. They are the most prideful people you'll ever meet. It's all kind of hard to explain unless you're here and you watch it play out.

That said- The job is still pretty good. I make 3,000 won a month (2.1 in pay, 400 housing stipend, 500 in overtime) which is around 2.6/2.7k depending on the exchange. It's a hell of a lot more than I ever made in New York. I don't pay any rent. Taxes are way lower AND I get healthcare. Plus, 21 days of vaycay. And if I re-up my contract I get 2.1k bonus, round-trip tickets anywhere in the world and an extra 2 weeks of vaycay. Also, school isn't in session for about 4 months of the year, plus holidays etc.

Is it stressful? Fuck yeah. Things happen here that would be like front page news anywhere else (i.e. NOT HAVING TEXTBOOKS FOR YOUR 3RD GRADERS or HIRING ENGLISH TEACHERS WHO DONT SPEAK ANY ENGLISH), but you just roll with it. A lot of frusturation comes from wanting to do a good job and just not being able to. It's also a lot of after-hours work: Making Powerpoints, making worksheets, cutting things out, designing signage etc etc. But for the pay and the experience, I think it's worth it. There are ten million things to bitch about here because so many of them come from way-out-left field, but anyone who tells you it isn't a sweet deal is a liar. It's your ability to roll with it, to grapple with the strangeness and take a deep breath that will determine how happy you are.

Besides, what else are you gonna do? Keep working at Gamestop? Plug away at your 9-5? I got to sleep in a 500 year old Buddhist Temple and meditate at dawn with monks last week. I eat weird, new food everyday. I get to live in a city some people only ever see on a map. No matter how much I complain, it's always worth it. Always.

(But yeah, Korea can be a little gay.)
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 03, 2010, 01:07:18 AM
No, Korea as a country has its ups and downs, but it's largely pretty awesome. It's not quite as wealthy or advanced as Japan, but you don't have to deal with that perverted uguu shit.

The state of English education as a whole is kind of a joke. But it pays well when you factor in everything you get, and as long as you do your best to help the kids actually learn something, it's not bad at all.

Yeah but Korea is fugly and it has pushy ajummas and some of the most aggressive drivers in the world. So actually it's not that awesome.

The drivers are INSANE. I watched a CITY BUS blow a red light today. No one pays the slightest attention to traffic lights. People stop dead in the road to wave to friends in a busy city. Also, stop lights fucking suck. They're all like 4-7 minutes long. I can listen to an entire Joanna Newsom song waiting for a light to change :(
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 03, 2010, 03:57:28 AM
They don't really know what to do with me here. Apparently I'm teaching three classes tomorrow, but they're "special classes," so I don't get a co-teacher. However, the kids speak a very low level of English, so I don't think it's going to work out too well. My plan is to use the same lesson plan with every one of the classes, which means that tomorrow will be strictly introduction. The classes are only 45 minutes, but they seem to drag on forever. Teaching the same 45 minute lesson to eight different classes in a week is like watching a really crappy episode of Lost eight times in a row.

My regular classes with regular co-teachers don't start until next week. Not sure what we'll actually do, since no one has discussed lesson plans with me.

Why don't you just make the lesson plans yourself?  That's what I do. :smug
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tristam on March 03, 2010, 04:05:41 AM
You guys are lucky you have co-teachers at all. I prepare for and teach all my classes alone.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 03, 2010, 04:10:13 AM
That's what I did last year in the academy. One of the draws of public schools, for me, was that the classes are supposed to be taught with co-teachers. But three months in, I've taught the majority of my classes alone.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 08, 2010, 08:37:17 PM
Here's another mindfuck: Yesterday I walk in any my co-teacher is like "The VP wants you teach more afterschool classes". I'm down with this- They're kind of a fucking pain, but they take place from 2:30-4:30, while I'ms itting on my ass, and I get $25/hr for them. Then she drops the bomb, "It's a 1st grade class and there is no co-teacher".

Let me explain: 1st Graders have not seen the English alphabet yet. So it's my and 35 1st graders for 60 minutes everyday. We do not speak so much as 10 common words between us. I spent all weekend creating, collating, stapling and folding workbooks for letters A-L. I created this huge presentation and edited all this videos for the first day.

The class was a disaster. They just kept shouting HANGOUL HANGOUL HANGOUL TEACHER SPEAKUHH HANGUL (They're asking me to speak Korean. WHICH I DONT DO). So I put on some Yo Gabba Gabba which they roundly HATED, so I moved over to Sesame Street which elicted more cries of HANGOUL HANGOUL SOSANGNIM HANGOUL and then they started crying because I could not make Elmo magically start spitting out Korean.

99 more classes of this. 99 more hours.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 08, 2010, 08:49:24 PM
oh my lulz


HANGOUL MUTHAFUCKA...DO YOU SPEAK IT?!
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: chronovore on March 09, 2010, 08:08:17 AM
It's worse in China, at least in  my experience. I almost got punted fifty yards by a city bus that was running a red light in Xi'an. I had the right of way, and I started crossing the street, thinking the bus would come to a stop. I distinctly remember the moment when I realized that I was going to die if I did not jump the fuck out of the way in the next two seconds.  :lol

In Korea it seems like the drivers will stop if you assert yourself and cross the street, but in China it seems like, no, they'll fucking kill you.

This says volumes about you. But it's good that, in some contexts, you can realize when you're outmatched.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 09, 2010, 08:24:26 AM
Tell them "한굴 못해요. 영어 전용." Hopefully they'll get the idea.

I taught a 1st grade phonics class alone last year. It was tough, but after a few months, some of the kids were able to communicate with me in a rudimentary way. PM me if you want some tips.

How many kids did you have?

My class was a fucking DISASTER. The kids RIPPED THEIR WORKBOOKS that I spent like 15 hours on TO PIECES. They threw all the markers out the window, two FIVE YEAR OLD BOYS got into a bloody nose fist fight. They broke one of my monitors.

I generally don't yell. Especially in class, it's really unhelpful, I find, to create a ME vs. YOU atmosphere in the class. My classes are pretty well behaved because they know I let a lot of little shit slide as long as they don't fuck up my lesson.

But dude, I yelled. I screamed at those kids. I really lost it. 25 of them. 5 ripping shit off the wall, 5 breaking the computers, 5 fighting, 5 running around. Maybe 5 actually coloring in their working. I just can;t handle that many kids- They don't listen to me when I'm nice, they don't listen to me when I yell because they have no idea what I;m saying. Literally the moment a Korean teacher leaves the room they get up and start wreaking havoc. My school doesn't wanna pay for another teacher. I'm thinking I'm going to tell them that it's literally impossible for me to teach these 25 kids on my own. It's literally the same as trying to train an entire litter of puppies- I have no way to rationally communicate with them. I have no leverage in any negotiation.

It really freaked me out. It depressed me. I feel stupid getting all skitzed over a bunch of 5 year olds, but I just can't do it and they run right over me for a solid 60 minutes. Nothing works because I can't explain shit to them.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 09, 2010, 08:25:40 AM
Although, it helped that they didn't understand any English when one of them punched me in the face and I yelled "Get the fuck in your seat!", haha.

I've done 5-10 before. You can handle 5 or 10 of them. But 25 is pure mania.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 09, 2010, 08:28:41 AM
It really wiged me because I don't yell. Like ever. I can think of maybe 3 other occasions in my life where I yelled at someone like I did yesterday. Once was when my landlord dug up all our utilities with a rented backhoe and then had no idea how to put them back together and it was like 110 Illinois summer and I had a stomach virus and this pothead bitch from down the hall was like "Duuuuuuuuuuude dont be mad dont be d you just have to relax" and I LOST MY MIND and I was like "SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. AND GET OUT OF MY HOUSE. YOU DO NOT GET TO TELL ME WHAT TO CHILL OUT ABOUT"


hahah. Funny now.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Reb on March 09, 2010, 10:31:50 AM
Yelling is good, they won't remember.

Hang in there, it's not your fault you're stuck in there by yourself. I think it's a good idea to try to explain the insanity of this situation to one of the higher ups. See what happens if you refuse.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tauntaun on March 09, 2010, 10:44:58 AM
When communications break down kancho works.  :-*
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tristam on March 09, 2010, 11:31:03 AM
Tell them "한굴 못해요. 영어 전용." Hopefully they'll get the idea.

I taught a 1st grade phonics class alone last year. It was tough, but after a few months, some of the kids were able to communicate with me in a rudimentary way. PM me if you want some tips.

How many kids did you have?

My class was a fucking DISASTER. The kids RIPPED THEIR WORKBOOKS that I spent like 15 hours on TO PIECES. They threw all the markers out the window, two FIVE YEAR OLD BOYS got into a bloody nose fist fight. They broke one of my monitors.

I generally don't yell. Especially in class, it's really unhelpful, I find, to create a ME vs. YOU atmosphere in the class. My classes are pretty well behaved because they know I let a lot of little shit slide as long as they don't fuck up my lesson.

But dude, I yelled. I screamed at those kids. I really lost it. 25 of them. 5 ripping shit off the wall, 5 breaking the computers, 5 fighting, 5 running around. Maybe 5 actually coloring in their working. I just can;t handle that many kids- They don't listen to me when I'm nice, they don't listen to me when I yell because they have no idea what I;m saying. Literally the moment a Korean teacher leaves the room they get up and start wreaking havoc. My school doesn't wanna pay for another teacher. I'm thinking I'm going to tell them that it's literally impossible for me to teach these 25 kids on my own. It's literally the same as trying to train an entire litter of puppies- I have no way to rationally communicate with them. I have no leverage in any negotiation.

It really freaked me out. It depressed me. I feel stupid getting all skitzed over a bunch of 5 year olds, but I just can't do it and they run right over me for a solid 60 minutes. Nothing works because I can't explain shit to them.

 :lol :lol

Oh man, I really feel bad for you, GilloD. I can't say I've ever taught that many kids--I've got small classes, and the most I've taught is 15. I know what little shits they can be, though, and I know how difficult it is to control them.

And your Korean co-workers probably won't understand why you can't control them because they have zero empathy or perspective. You can invite them to try teaching Korean to a class full of 5-year-old Mexican kids and they still won't get it.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 09, 2010, 06:46:46 PM
Don't mean to sound like I'm slamming you, GilloD, but it just shows to me how odd it is that these schools hire people without a background in education or at least conversational knowledge in the language (be it Japanese or Korean).  I was in kind of the same boat you are now, except for the fact that when I started off, I had really good team-teachers with me every class to show me the ropes.  That, and I've only taught high school so the kids already have a basic knowledge of English.

IMO, when these places hire you, they should give you some type of workshops in teaching before you start and even during the semester.  The JET Programme does this twice a year, really helps out especially when you're a newbie.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 09, 2010, 07:04:09 PM
You have my sympathies, GilloD. I've been in a few situations like that, many years ago, and I swear to God it soured me on having kids for years. I just thought I wasn't good with kids at all. It turns out I'm fine with them, just not 15 of them at once in a situation where they know you can't do shit.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 09, 2010, 07:11:08 PM
I'm trying to remember how I learned English when I was in kindergarten.  The thing is, I already knew the alphabet in Spanish so I guess the first thing I did was practice pronunciation, then syllables and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 09, 2010, 08:48:26 PM
Wow, that sucks, GilloD.  When I had classes as bad as that, I was always with a teacher, so I could just sit down and stop the lesson, embarrassing the shittier teachers into doing something to make the kids stop, or let the good teachers take control and shut the kids up or have them tell the class that I was leaving, the fun lesson was now over, etc. etc. 

But when it was bad, it was BAD.  I dreaded going to certain classes.  If I were on my own, I probably would have killed one or two of those kids.   >:(  Is there no way you can just refuse to go to these classes on the grounds that you are not qualified to teach them, at least not without supervision from a Korean teacher?

GS: You can make the kids go outside?  Where I taught, this was frowned upon.  "They all have a right to be in the classroom," I was told.  You know, even the kid who never does his work, doesn't even wear his uniform, and just gets up and walks around, making trouble.  He should totally be allowed to stay in class.   ::)  One time during a parents observation class, this kid got up and ran all over the school, jumping in and out of windows and running around on the balcony outside the school.  Nobody kicked him out or punished him...they just had one teacher chasing after him. 
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 09, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
When I had bad classes I'd just tell the homeroom teacher, who would usually then give them a serious reprimand and move their seats around.  Dunno if that would even work when they're so young, though.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 09, 2010, 08:54:35 PM
When I had bad classes I'd just tell the homeroom teacher, who would usually then give them a serious reprimand and move their seats around.  Dunno if that would even work when they're so young, though.

The worst classes I had were always with the same teacher.  He just didn't give a shit about discipline or controlling the class.  The guy was close to retirement (and is retired now) and just wanted to ride out his last few years on the job as easy as possible.  I didn't really have these problems with other teachers.  So basically I found that just stopping what I was doing and standing by a window or sitting down at a desk would get him to at least try to shut the noisier kids up.  Another (Japanese) teacher that worked with him for one school year *hated* his classes more than I did.  She couldn't believe the shit that she saw, with kids misbehaving right in front of him, and him doing absolutely nothing to stop them.

But yeah, those kids lived in fear of their homeroom teachers.  The few times I would tell a HR teacher about a kid misbehaving, they really let them have it.  One time a couple of kids ran up to me, dropped to their knees, and bowed to my feet, begging me not to tell their teacher how they had been acting for the day.   :lol  I did teach at the worst and third-worst junior high schools in the city though.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 09, 2010, 08:58:10 PM
You never tried to verbally discipline them yourself?  I'd just tell them to be quiet.  Shouted a few times (you have to do this very rarely or it loses its effectiveness) without losing my cool.  Students were shocked that the normally friendly ALT was being all strict and shit so they'd be very quiet for the next few minutes.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 09, 2010, 10:01:48 PM
Wow, that sucks, GilloD.  When I had classes as bad as that, I was always with a teacher, so I could just sit down and stop the lesson, embarrassing the shittier teachers into doing something to make the kids stop, or let the good teachers take control and shut the kids up or have them tell the class that I was leaving, the fun lesson was now over, etc. etc. 

But when it was bad, it was BAD.  I dreaded going to certain classes.  If I were on my own, I probably would have killed one or two of those kids.   >:(  Is there no way you can just refuse to go to these classes on the grounds that you are not qualified to teach them, at least not without supervision from a Korean teacher?

GS: You can make the kids go outside?  Where I taught, this was frowned upon.  "They all have a right to be in the classroom," I was told.  You know, even the kid who never does his work, doesn't even wear his uniform, and just gets up and walks around, making trouble.  He should totally be allowed to stay in class.   ::)  One time during a parents observation class, this kid got up and ran all over the school, jumping in and out of windows and running around on the balcony outside the school.  Nobody kicked him out or punished him...they just had one teacher chasing after him. 

I cant send the kids outside- My class is right next to the playground and they just run out the door. At which point it's like. I can't leave the room and leave the 24 other kids unatteneded. What a mess.

I'm going to try one or two new things today and if it goes badly, I just need to say: I cant do this.

I like kids. I'm good with them. But 25 of anything I'd be bad with, let alone 25 foreign kids in a class full of breakable shit.

Ichi- I 100% agree with you. A string part of teh Korean culture is just to LOOK like you're doing something and the English program is no different. They sink millions of bucks into this program just to say they did it. They dont think about training or usable materials or paying for more teachers. They just like to say HEY LOOK WE DID IT!

My othert classes -3rd, 5th and 6th- are all great this year. I have good co-teachers, the kids are mostly respectful (or, at least, they can kind of understand me) and things rae going really well. I just have the hellish last hour of the day whereanything goes.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 09, 2010, 10:05:23 PM
Have you tried planning a schedule of the activities you're going to do each term?  I find that it really helps me when I can find a goal I'm working towards.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 09, 2010, 10:26:43 PM
You never tried to verbally discipline them yourself?  I'd just tell them to be quiet.  Shouted a few times (you have to do this very rarely or it loses its effectiveness) without losing my cool.  Students were shocked that the normally friendly ALT was being all strict and shit so they'd be very quiet for the next few minutes.

Sure I did.  In English and Japanese...didn't matter.  These were some of the worst kids out there.  Thankfully this was just a few classes out of many, much better-run ones with kids who did enjoy the classes.  I'm sure I posted this before, about one class where a kid would not stop SINGING (about me) the entire time.  So I calmly picked up an eraser, wiped it on the chalkboard, pointed it at him, and when he didn't stop, I walked up to him and started patting him on the head.  He had chalkdust all over his hair and uniform.  Then I went back to the lesson.  The whole class went silent -except for the kid, who kept on going-   :lol  His girlfriend was also PISSED and started screaming at me.  The kid did stop fucking around with me from the next day on though.  The (soon-to-be-retiring) teacher's response? "Eh...you probably shouldn't do that" in a low voice.  GOOD JON.

BTW, that eraser stuff was suggested to me in a discipline workshop at our yearly ALT conference.   :lol

I cant send the kids outside- My class is right next to the playground and they just run out the door. At which point it's like. I can't leave the room and leave the 24 other kids unatteneded. What a mess.

I'm going to try one or two new things today and if it goes badly, I just need to say: I cant do this.

I like kids. I'm good with them. But 25 of anything I'd be bad with, let alone 25 foreign kids in a class full of breakable shit.


Are you an ALT like those of us are/were in teh Nippon?  I was told that the teacher was always supposed to be with us in class, and that it was a big no-no to be alone with the kids.  That didn't stop it from happening though.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 09, 2010, 10:33:13 PM
He told YOU you shouldn't do that, or he told the student?  Did you ever tell the soon-to-be-retiring teacher that you needed him to discipline the kids more?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 09, 2010, 10:36:11 PM
He told YOU you shouldn't do that, or he told the student?  Did you ever tell the soon-to-be-retiring teacher that you needed him to discipline the kids more?

He told me that.  I just shrugged it off.  IIRC that kid's homeroom teacher blasted him and he ended up apologizing to me, chalk-dust and all.   :lol  I helped him get the chalk off after that.

I never did say anything to the teacher.  Just felt that it wasn't my place to do so, and like I said, by this point had found that simply stopping my part of the lesson would force him to have to react.  I had some of the same kids with another teacher for a weekly "advanced" class, and they acted completely different.  Much more willing to participate in the class and answer questions.  Retiree's classes were pretty damn boring.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 09, 2010, 10:37:31 PM
You should've flat out told him, IMO.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 09, 2010, 10:45:37 PM
You should've flat out told him, IMO.

It wouldn't have done anything other than cause tension between us.  The guy just couldn't be bothered to do anything.  When I first got there, he was supposed to take me out to lunch and help me buy some home goods.  He takes me to get ramen, then drives me out to a big shopping plaza.  I needed some stuff like towels and linens.  "Yes, they sell those things in here," he says, pointing to this large complex.  Then he turns the car around and dumps me off at my apartment, and goes home.  I stood there, stunned.  I should have brought this up to somebody but I never did.  Pretty much got that kind of treatment by two of the three English teachers (the other guy was really awesome) at my base school, which is why when I had the chance, I switched base schools.  In the end I wish I hadn't just because the new VP they got there later on was a complete bitch.   :lol

Retiree did help out a bit when I broke my leg, taking me to the hospital after school.  It was like two minutes from the school, but hey.  One time I wrote a note asking the doctor various questions, and had a CIR translate it for me.  It started out with "I am not sure that [Retiree] Sensei understands my English, so I would to ask about..." Retiree happened to be there with me that day and saw the note.  That was awkward. 
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 09, 2010, 10:47:28 PM
oh my lulz

See, I would've just asked nicely.  "I can't manage the class on my own so when the students start singing/shouting, I'll stop teaching so you can reprimand them.  Thanks in advance."
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 09, 2010, 11:20:14 PM
oh my lulz

See, I would've just asked nicely.  "I can't manage the class on my own so when the students start singing/shouting, I'll stop teaching so you can reprimand them.  Thanks in advance."

I pretty much did that, in-class, when stuff like that would happen.  The singing kid was not only obnoxious, but the teacher wouldn't do anything about him, even after I stopped the class.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 09, 2010, 11:21:39 PM
At any rate, you're no longer teaching so the point is moot.  But I'd recommend to GilloD that he speak up when he's in this sort of situation.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 10, 2010, 12:18:46 AM
At any rate, you're no longer teaching so the point is moot.  But I'd recommend to GilloD that he speak up when he's in this sort of situation.

:hyper

GilloD's in a worse situation, so yeah, definitely.  It's really fucked up that these schools higher anyone with a college degree and then just expect them to teach a class of kids in a foreign language by themselves.  But I don't have to tell you that!
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 10, 2010, 12:30:46 AM
lul. I think I see the problem- First grade kids keep running up and down the hallway SCREAMING and no one is taking responsibility for them. It's still an hour before they arrive, I guess they just escaped their classroom and are running the halls. No wonder they're fuckign brats.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 12:32:43 AM
HANGOUL TEACHER PLEASE HANGOUL
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 10, 2010, 01:22:25 AM
OH GOD THEYYYRREEE COMNING I HEEEARRRRRR THEM
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tristam on March 10, 2010, 06:57:16 AM
Man I'm jealous of you guys who speak of "co-teachers." At least it shows your school gives at least one shit, maybe even two shits, about whether their kids learn.

The Koreans at my center have their priorities SO FUCKING BACKWARD. They don't spend money on something useful (like more Korean teachers to assist the foreign teachers); instead, they blow it all on fake cherry blossom trees to put in the hallway. Jesus I swear that they all spent about three weeks obsessing over these trees. Day in and day out, we'd be in the office and the Koreans would be jabbering away in excitement and agitation. We--the FTs--would be curious what the fuck was up, so we'd ask one of the Koreans, and the response would be something like, "Oh, Mr. Kim is disappointed because there was supposed to be a sparrow on one of the trees."
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 10, 2010, 06:58:51 AM
You're at a hagwon, Tristam?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tristam on March 10, 2010, 09:36:19 AM
It's a publicly funded English center, so I don't have to worry about my boss being shady with my paycheck, but the absence of a Korean co-teacher is a perpetual breach of contract.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 10, 2010, 06:44:30 PM
Today I come in and all the teacher sin my office are upset. I'm like, "Whats up?" and they're like, "The Vice Principal said our office is too messy! We have to clean it up now! She canceled our first class so we can clean".

I flipped the fuck out. I never say anything, but I was like "What kind of school is this? It could be a cultural thing, but this is the stupidest school I've ever been in. They hold meetings ABOUT CLASSES DURING CLASSES and then they CANCEL CLASSES SO WE CAN CELAN OUR OFFICE. I don't work for a janitorial service" (I had to explain that word) "I'll be working on lesson plans in the other room".

Maybe I should have been nicer, but maybe that VP monster should worry more about having properly staffed classes than how private offices look. fuuuuuuuck her.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 06:47:43 PM
:lol

FWIW, the teachers and students in all Japanese public schools are in charge of cleaning.  Probably the same way in Korea. You should help out, it'll help build camarederie with your co-workers.

I remember thinking that having the students and staff in charge of cleaning their own personal area was a great idea.  Especially for the students, if they're in charge of cleaning their own classroom, makes it less likely they'll mess it up and just leave it for "janitorial services" to clean up.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 10, 2010, 06:48:04 PM
It's also worth noting that while our offices weren't spotless, they certainly weren't a pigsty or anything.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 10, 2010, 06:48:58 PM
:lol

FWIW, the teachers and students in all Japanese public schools are in charge of cleaning.  Probably the same way in Korea. You should help out, it'll help build camarederie with your co-workers.

I clean all the time! I sweep my classroom and scrub my desks. I mop my floors. I'm not against cleaning. I am againt the VP sticking her nose in shit and then CANCELING CLASS so it gets fixed.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 06:50:03 PM
Maybe they have an inspection coming up or something?  I remember one of my schools going into a tizzy and cancelling classes for the entire day and cleaning up EVERYTHING because some people from the board of education were coming to check things out.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 06:54:08 PM
I think I see the problem here in all your stories.  You give a shit how the school operates or if kids learn English.  If you took the job for a modest pay raise and a chance to see the world, why not just worry about that?  Who cares about the rest?

I'm actually really glad GilloD doesn't think that way.  If he did, he'd just be propagating the whole "ugly American" stereotype.  Instead, he's doing his best and trying to work hard for the kids.

GilloD rocks. :rock
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 07:05:20 PM
It's really up to him what he makes of his experience.  From my own personal experiences, the school gives you a lot of freedom cause they're not exactly sure what to do with you.  You can either use that freedom to fuck off and not do much, or you can make English-language newsletters, start an English club, etc.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 10, 2010, 08:33:30 PM
I think I see the problem here in all your stories.  You give a shit how the school operates or if kids learn English.  If you took the job for a modest pay raise and a chance to see the world, why not just worry about that?  Who cares about the rest?

I started off this way, but that felt like a lazy cop out to me. I'm literally embarrassed if I feel like I'm not giving 100%. I understand where you come from and part of me really agrees, but I also don't want kids to get caught in the middle. They're still paying me pretty well, I owe them as much as I can. It's not the kids fault they got stuck in a fucked up system.

Anyway, I cooled off a little bit, tidied up and felt better. It just really bothered me that among the ten zillion legitimate things that could have commented on, she chose probably the most irrelevant of the bunch.

Man. Last semester I was cool as a cuke. This semester I'm up the wall. I wonder what changed? I think I'm just stressed this week- I have 4 basic lessons I'm responsible for, plus the 5 after schools. Keeping up onall that right off the line has made me tired, stressed and cranky, I think.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 08:47:36 PM
Probably has to do with that extra class you're teaching.  It may not seem like much but I remember going from 4 classes a day to 5 and how it left me feeling like crap every day until I got used to it.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 09:08:23 PM
Uh...you're not a real school teacher.  No offense, and I'm genuinely not trolling you, but no ALT is.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 09:14:05 PM
It's not even the schools, the ministry of education hires people with the sole requirement that they be native speakers and have bachelor's degrees (doesn't even matter the field you got a degree in) - just 'cause you're a native speaker doesn't mean you can teach the language.

If the governments in Korea and Japan took this shit seriously, it would A) cost a lot more to hire qualified people (which they can't afford because of the state of the economy), and B) put most of us out of a job because we don't have the right qualifications.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 10, 2010, 09:20:33 PM
It's not even the schools, the ministry of education hires people with the sole requirement that they be native speakers and have bachelor's degrees (doesn't even matter the field you got a degree in) - just 'cause you're a native speaker doesn't mean you can teach the language.

If the governments in Korea and Japan took this shit seriously, it would A) cost a lot more to hire qualified people (which they can't afford because of the state of the economy), and B) put most of us out of a job because we don't have the right qualifications.

Part of the problem is that my kids DONT GET A GRADE FOR ENGLISH.

So it's like, "Study math and science or else you'll be a HOBO!" everyday for 10 years and then they're like "Also, you have English. But there's no grade!". So of course the kids are like "What? Fuck this man". There's a ton that could be done on the administrative end beyond hiring better people
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 09:27:39 PM
Students in Japan get graded on their English (a foreign language is a requirement and that means English in 95% of schools), but when the time comes for university entrance exams, all they get tested on is rote memorization of grammar.  So they get graded for memorizing stuff, not for actual fluency or communicative ability.  Which means they have no motivation to study English as a living language, only as a set of rules and specific words they have to memorize for tests.

I actually am responsible for creating the listening portions of final exams and for grading speaking tests, so at least I have more influence than a lot of ALTs do.  In fact, before I came to the schools I work at, they didn't even have speaking tests, which is nuts when you're teaching a class called ORAL Communication.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 10, 2010, 10:52:03 PM
Today I come in and all the teacher sin my office are upset. I'm like, "Whats up?" and they're like, "The Vice Principal said our office is too messy! We have to clean it up now! She canceled our first class so we can clean".

I flipped the fuck out. I never say anything, but I was like "What kind of school is this? It could be a cultural thing, but this is the stupidest school I've ever been in. They hold meetings ABOUT CLASSES DURING CLASSES and then they CANCEL CLASSES SO WE CAN CELAN OUR OFFICE. I don't work for a janitorial service" (I had to explain that word) "I'll be working on lesson plans in the other room".

Maybe I should have been nicer, but maybe that VP monster should worry more about having properly staffed classes than how private offices look. fuuuuuuuck her.

 :lol  I'm amazed at how similar Korea and Japan are.  Is China like this too?

Which is probably a big part of the reason why English education in these countries sucks so fucking much.

How can anyone expect the students to take it seriously if the school doesn't even take it seriously?

Yup.  It's still a fun job for foreigners and a great way to see/live abroad for a while, but I'd be pissed off if my kids had the same kind of "teachers" in foreign language classes.  What really needs to be done is for the actual teachers themselves to actually be COMPETENT in the language THEY TEACH and get those kids on the ball.  It's just mind-boggling how there are English teachers who can't fucking speak English.  I couldn't believe it when I actually had to correct a teacher's mistake mid-lesson. 

I think I see the problem here in all your stories.  You give a shit how the school operates or if kids learn English.  If you took the job for a modest pay raise and a chance to see the world, why not just worry about that?  Who cares about the rest?

You have to do the job to understand where everyone is coming from.  Seriously.

Students in Japan get graded on their English (a foreign language is a requirement and that means English in 95% of schools), but when the time comes for university entrance exams, all they get tested on is rote memorization of grammar.  So they get graded for memorizing stuff, not for actual fluency or communicative ability.  Which means they have no motivation to study English as a living language, only as a set of rules and specific words they have to memorize for tests.

I don't think the junior high school kids get graded on their English in Japan.  It certainly didn't seem that way when I was there, and would explain why so many kids tended to not give a flying fuck.  One thing I heard a lot was "I don't have to use English at the job I'm going to do/I'm not going to live in Tokyo/I'm not going to live abroad," etc. etc.  And I can see where they are coming from.  I don't remember a lick of the Spanish classes I took in JHS/HS.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 10:59:12 PM
High school entrance exams include English, so they're definitely being graded.  You might've been kept out of the loop (sounds like the teachers you worked with weren't particularly good).
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 10, 2010, 11:00:44 PM
High school entrance exams include English as standard, so they're definitely being graded.  You might've been kept out of the loop (sounds like the teachers you worked with weren't particularly good).

I know this, but they don't need to pass English (or anything, really) in order to move onto the next JHS grade level.  The kids who were serious about getting into a good high school were the kids who studied English the most, and were the most attentive.  Don't get me wrong; there were plenty of good students, but also a high level of kids who just didn't give a fuck.  The troublemakers stand out, but there were also kids who just slept the entire time (one kid would sleep through EVERY CLASS HE HAD EVERY DAY...I couldn't figure out why he hadn't dropped out), did other class work, tried to sneak books or even video games, etc.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 10, 2010, 11:07:19 PM
Having 10-20 fourteen year old boys (and sometimes even more girls) a day tell you "Teacher, you're a handsome guy" is kind of a trip for awhile.
This explains so many things....
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 10, 2010, 11:13:58 PM
The video game thing reminds me of two incidents:

-This chubby kid who typically wouldn't pay attention in class (day-dreaming most of the time) had a DS.  The teacher was doing her thing in the front, so I walked around the classroom, checking on the kids.  When chubby saw me, he'd hide his DS.  So I walked around to the other side of the classroom for a bit, then quietly snuck up on him.  This class really liked me, so nobody warned him I was coming.   :lol  I tapped him on the shoulder and he freaked out, then frantically stuffed the DS into his bag and denied having it...even though I had been watching him.  Class ended and I told the teacher what happened (there was a bit of a commotion over it), and she got him to take out the DS and give it to her.  The kid stopped coming to school shortly after, and I found out he changed schools.  This is the only possible reason why.

-One of the worst third-year students had a PSP or game manuals that he would take out occasionally.  Usually the teacher would tell him to turn it off/put the manuals away and he would.  No big deal.  Then one day when I'm in the teachers' room, there's this SCREAMING in the hallway.  It's that same kid.  He got caught playing his PSP in another class and they took it away from him.  He was so upset that he started hyperventilating over it.  The teacher just held him up his arms as he breathed heavily and kicked and screamed.  Then he calmed down and stormed out.  

Having 10-20 fourteen year old boys (and sometimes even more girls) a day tell you "Teacher, you're a handsome guy" is kind of a trip for awhile.
This explains so many things....

LOL.  That's better than the one kid I had (with his horse-face and bleeding gums) who would laugh at me quietly non-stop in class.  (I found out it was because I was "short."  U HAVE SHORT LEGS LOLOLOLOLOL :::laughs for 30 minutes by himself:::: )  All the other kids avoided him.  Then one day he comes up to me and in Japanese, says "TAKE OUT YOUR COCK."  Right in front of the teacher.  I was just  :o :wtf and looked at the teacher, who since he happened to be "retiree," just said "no, no, you shouldn't say that" to him and then told me he didn't say anything.  I said "I know what he said and I'm really disturbed by this."  From that point on, if the kid tried to talk to me, I would just answer him quickly and walk off.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 10, 2010, 11:45:12 PM
Well, you know what they say about dudes with short legs. :-*
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 11, 2010, 12:08:29 AM
It's a big thing here for kids to try and cram their fingers up your butt. I have to keep my anus protected at all times. I forget what the word is, but it translates to "Shit Needle"
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 11, 2010, 12:15:30 AM
It's a big thing here for kids to try and cram their fingers up your butt. I have to keep my anus protected at all times. I forget what the word is, but it translates to "Shit Needle"

It's called kancho in Japan.

I'm amazed at how many cultural things are shared by Japan and Korea.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 11, 2010, 12:36:58 AM
Well, you know what they say about dudes with short legs. :-*

"You're a tripod!"
(http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2002_Austin_Powers_in_Goldmember/austin_powers_in_goldmember_002.jpg)

It's a big thing here for kids to try and cram their fingers up your butt. I have to keep my anus protected at all times. I forget what the word is, but it translates to "Shit Needle"

It's called kancho in Japan.

I'm amazed at how many cultural things are shared by Japan and Korea.

I am really glad I never once saw or encountered this.   :lol
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 11, 2010, 12:40:23 AM
It's a big thing here for kids to try and cram their fingers up your butt. I have to keep my anus protected at all times. I forget what the word is, but it translates to "Shit Needle"

It's called kancho in Japan.

I'm amazed at how many cultural things are shared by Japan and Korea.

Not so amazing, in light of Japan's  history of invading the place and re-educating the natives.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 11, 2010, 12:44:34 AM
It's hard to envision kanchoing as a part of said re-education.    :lol
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 11, 2010, 12:49:59 AM
It's hard to envision kanchoing as a part of said re-education.    :lol

They tried it on you, didn't they?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 11, 2010, 12:54:35 AM
It's hard to envision kanchoing as a part of said re-education.    :lol

They tried it on you, didn't they?

Seriously, no!  After all I heard about it, I expected it to be some rampant problem, but nope.  Never saw it or had it attempted on my rear.  Just the one kid asking me to take out my cock.   :lol :-\  And of course, the ever-popular "DO U PLAY SEX!??!?"
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 11, 2010, 01:05:15 AM
It's hard to envision kanchoing as a part of said re-education.    :lol

I've been reading this history of Korea lately- The utter brutalization of these people, both by their own government in the 60's through the fucking 80's when it was still a sham democracy and by colonial powers, is astonishing. I wouldn't be surprised if having something shoved up your ass is some kind of repressed cultural memory.

Also, Koreans hate the Japanese, which is funny.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 11, 2010, 01:08:48 AM
Okay. Today I'm ready. Armed with games and activities, videos to visually communicate the rules, Yo Gabba Gabba as a backup, arts and crafts time. I'm gonna make this class work, god dammit! ohgodihearthemcomingwhyisshebringingthemearly
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: brawndolicious on March 11, 2010, 01:42:23 AM
Okay. Today I'm ready. Armed with games and activities, videos to visually communicate the rules, Yo Gabba Gabba as a backup, arts and crafts time. I'm gonna make this class work, god dammit! ohgodihearthemcomingwhyisshebringingthemearly
that would explain why asians are afraid of black people.  put in some Nihao Kai Lan at least, it's the wrong language but they can identify with it.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: chronovore on March 11, 2010, 06:48:47 AM
It's hard to envision kanchoing as a part of said re-education.    :lol

I've been reading this history of Korea lately- The utter brutalization of these people, both by their own government in the 60's through the fucking 80's when it was still a sham democracy and by colonial powers, is astonishing. I wouldn't be surprised if having something shoved up your ass is some kind of repressed cultural memory.

Also, Koreans hate the Japanese, which is funny.

Well Americans and French hate each other too; similarity breeds contempt.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tauntaun on March 12, 2010, 02:37:10 PM
Okay. Today I'm ready. Armed with games and activities, videos to visually communicate the rules, Yo Gabba Gabba as a backup, arts and crafts time. I'm gonna make this class work, god dammit! ohgodihearthemcomingwhyisshebringingthemearly

[youtube=560,345]Wp_PnJN5d84[/youtube]
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 17, 2010, 01:33:44 AM
2 new stories:

1: Last Friday was teacher dinner. At teacher dinner all the teachers go to dinner and get black out fucked up. Anyway, we have a new teacher who is kind of shy, but really nice. And because she was new, the VP was like "You need to drink!" and she was like "no, no, I really hate soju, I don't want to" and the VP was like "No, drink!" and she was like "Seriously I really don't want to, it makes me sick" and the VP was like "DRINK IT" and so she tried to drink it and it was like. She had taken a shot of bleach. She really, really hated it. A few seconds in she was like coughing it up and gagging it out and the VP was like "DRINK MORE" and at this point everyone is like dead quiet. It's seriously uncomfortable. I stand up (Which is apparently a no-no, but this is some sick shit) and I'm like "Aneyo! Aneyo! No,no, I'll drink it". Everyone got really scared because no one ever says shit to the VP, but this was really awful.

Anyway, I ended up drinking like 8 of my own shots and then like 10 of hers. Hence my Friday night drunk post festival which ended with me crying to Smog records. It was the opposite of a night to remember.

2: One of my kids had on a shirt today that said "I want to be your poop star". I guess it was supposed to say pop star, but in teh middle of class I just lost it. I couldn't stop laughing and all the kids were like, "Teacher what laugh what laugh" and I didn't wanna single her out, so I  was like "Teacher needs water!" and I made a break for the door so I could continue to lose it in the hallway. lul.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: muckhole on March 17, 2010, 03:02:28 AM
Should have given that kid a righteous "shit needle".
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 17, 2010, 03:39:15 AM
GilloD, no offense, but when you get drunk, stay the fuck away from the computer.  Your drunk threads blow.  You don't even answer embarrassing questions anymore or post pics of your dick.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 17, 2010, 06:02:25 AM
GilloD, no offense, but when you get drunk, stay the fuck away from the computer.  Your drunk threads blow.  You don't even answer embarrassing questions anymore or post pics of your dick.

It's true! My reign of terror on Friday extended to Gmail, drunk international calls and Facebook. It was horrible.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Reb on March 17, 2010, 06:10:29 AM
What did your parents mail back?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 17, 2010, 06:36:25 AM
My co-teachers got me a birthday cake today. I didn't even tell them it was my birthday. I did tell a few students though, and apparently they told a teacher, and when I got to work this morning, there was a big cake waiting. It was one of the nicest things I've experienced in awhile.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tauntaun on March 17, 2010, 11:02:32 AM
Work smarter, not harder.  If the school is setting him up for failure, then why bother trying to succeed?

:wtf  You black?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tauntaun on March 17, 2010, 11:04:51 AM
One of my kids had on a shirt today that said "I want to be your poop star".

:rofl  I wouldn't have lasted as long as you.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 18, 2010, 02:10:16 AM
There's another foreigner who teaches afterschool at my school, and he's probably the worst person I've ever met. He's like 40, yet all he does is talk about how many Korean girls he fucked when he was young. That and complain about how he has no friends in Incheon.

Problem is he is latching on to me fucking hard. He calls me like every fucking day asking to wingman and shit. Fuckkkkk. He works at the same school so it's so hard to duck him. He stops by my office constantly talking about picking up women in front of my co-teacher.

I think this is the most I've ever hated a person. There aren't enough excuses in the world to save me from this piece of shit. I think I'll just kill myself.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 18, 2010, 02:17:55 AM
GS in 20 years? I think so :teehee
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 18, 2010, 02:40:29 AM
GS in 20 years? I think so :teehee

:lol
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 18, 2010, 02:47:14 AM
One of my kids had on a shirt today that said "I want to be your poop star".

That's awesome. :lol
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 18, 2010, 03:05:29 AM
There's another foreigner who teaches afterschool at my school, and he's probably the worst person I've ever met. He's like 40, yet all he does is talk about how many Korean girls he fucked when he was young. That and complain about how he has no friends in Incheon.

Problem is he is latching on to me fucking hard. He calls me like every fucking day asking to wingman and shit. Fuckkkkk. He works at the same school so it's so hard to duck him. He stops by my office constantly talking about picking up women in front of my co-teacher.

I think this is the most I've ever hated a person. There aren't enough excuses in the world to save me from this piece of shit. I think I'll just kill myself.

Time to pull out the ol' EB mad homo routine methinks.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 18, 2010, 03:31:05 AM
You don't think that guy was probably the same?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 18, 2010, 03:38:39 AM
It's called being old.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 18, 2010, 03:49:40 AM
No you just get seen as a creep. And probably in a more traditional culture like Korea it looks creepier. I imagine one of the reasons he wants to hang around Bobisbait is to score with younger chicks which makes it the creepiest. 
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: cool breeze on March 18, 2010, 03:51:35 AM
This is true.  Bob should be flattered that someone is using him as poon bait
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 18, 2010, 04:01:41 AM
Who knows, who cares? I'm bored.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 18, 2010, 04:18:43 AM
He's not my co-teacher. If he were my co-teacher I'd already have hung myself.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: OptimoPeach on March 18, 2010, 04:30:00 AM
I don't know how to not sound like a dick when I say this, but my entertainment derived from these stories tends to be directly proportional to how distressed and pissed off you guys are. Culture shock and schadenfreude are just an awesome combination, I guess. Keep em coming
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 18, 2010, 07:53:00 AM
There's another foreigner who teaches afterschool at my school, and he's probably the worst person I've ever met. He's like 40, yet all he does is talk about how many Korean girls he fucked when he was young. That and complain about how he has no friends in Incheon.

Problem is he is latching on to me fucking hard. He calls me like every fucking day asking to wingman and shit. Fuckkkkk. He works at the same school so it's so hard to duck him. He stops by my office constantly talking about picking up women in front of my co-teacher.

I think this is the most I've ever hated a person. There aren't enough excuses in the world to save me from this piece of shit. I think I'll just kill myself.

Yes. Totally. There are a ton of those dudes. I just try and be kind of aloof. I definitley had to tell one of them "Look, you seem nice, but I don't really think we're compatible as friends". He got pissed, but he never called again!
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 18, 2010, 07:56:27 AM
It's not really creepy to be a 40 year old hanging out with people in their 20s when you're living overseas. I see it all the time over here. Most of us don't speak Korean well enough to make many Korean friends, and there are only so many English speakers. You hang out with whoever you can. Bob's co-teacher is a creep because he's probably a naturally creepy guy, not because he's 40.

I have this discussion a lot- I feel like if you're over 35 or so and still here it's like. How badly did you fuck up your life that you had to come here? Don't you have anything else going on? Anyone who relies on you? It's always kind of sad and they definitley creep me out. I had over 40 friends at home, but they were either like "haha i'm a fuck up" fun dudes or people with actual lives.

Dunno. It always weirds me out here, especially because they're always talking about fucking younger Korean girls. Just gross. They're the guys who buy those videos where Asian girls like swim in a pool of eggs while some guy throws wet pantyhose at them or something
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 18, 2010, 08:27:28 AM
It's not really creepy to be a 40 year old hanging out with people in their 20s when you're living overseas. I see it all the time over here. Most of us don't speak Korean well enough to make many Korean friends, and there are only so many English speakers. You hang out with whoever you can. Bob's co-teacher is a creep because he's probably a naturally creepy guy, not because he's 40.

I have this discussion a lot- I feel like if you're over 35 or so and still here it's like. How badly did you fuck up your life that you had to come here? Don't you have anything else going on? Anyone who relies on you? It's always kind of sad and they definitley creep me out. I had over 40 friends at home, but they were either like "haha i'm a fuck up" fun dudes or people with actual lives.

Dunno. It always weirds me out here, especially because they're always talking about fucking younger Korean girls. Just gross. They're the guys who buy those videos where Asian girls like swim in a pool of eggs while some guy throws wet pantyhose at them or something

Oh, i'm so bookmarking this post.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tristam on March 18, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
Ah, I was waiting on Bob to post! You gotta tell us how everything's going! (Aside from your creepy co-worker.)

Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 18, 2010, 09:35:47 AM
It's not really creepy to be a 40 year old hanging out with people in their 20s when you're living overseas. I see it all the time over here. Most of us don't speak Korean well enough to make many Korean friends, and there are only so many English speakers. You hang out with whoever you can. Bob's co-teacher is a creep because he's probably a naturally creepy guy, not because he's 40.

I have this discussion a lot- I feel like if you're over 35 or so and still here it's like. How badly did you fuck up your life that you had to come here? Don't you have anything else going on? Anyone who relies on you? It's always kind of sad and they definitley creep me out. I had over 40 friends at home, but they were either like "haha i'm a fuck up" fun dudes or people with actual lives.

Dunno. It always weirds me out here, especially because they're always talking about fucking younger Korean girls. Just gross. They're the guys who buy those videos where Asian girls like swim in a pool of eggs while some guy throws wet pantyhose at them or something

Rough thing is, he rolls deep with the cool english speaking teachers at my school. If I want to see them, I have to see him. :/

Other than that guy, things are great. Love my school, love my co-teacher and am decently happy with my area. My principal is crazy about English (yet can't speak a word) and only hires teachers who can speak it, so I've had some good times with teachers at my school. Met a ton of really cool people outside of school too. People that I would call friends here or at home. I know I'm in the "honeymoon phase," but for now I'm really happy. Can't wait to get paid next week.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tristam on March 18, 2010, 09:44:36 AM
It's not really creepy to be a 40 year old hanging out with people in their 20s when you're living overseas. I see it all the time over here. Most of us don't speak Korean well enough to make many Korean friends, and there are only so many English speakers. You hang out with whoever you can. Bob's co-teacher is a creep because he's probably a naturally creepy guy, not because he's 40.

I have this discussion a lot- I feel like if you're over 35 or so and still here it's like. How badly did you fuck up your life that you had to come here? Don't you have anything else going on? Anyone who relies on you? It's always kind of sad and they definitley creep me out. I had over 40 friends at home, but they were either like "haha i'm a fuck up" fun dudes or people with actual lives.

Dunno. It always weirds me out here, especially because they're always talking about fucking younger Korean girls. Just gross. They're the guys who buy those videos where Asian girls like swim in a pool of eggs while some guy throws wet pantyhose at them or something

Rough thing is, he rolls deep with the cool english speaking teachers at my school. If I want to see them, I have to see him. :/

Other than that guy, things are great. Love my school, love my co-teacher and am decently happy with my area. My principal is crazy about English (yet can't speak a word) and only hires teachers who can speak it, so I've had some good times with teachers at my school. Met a ton of really cool people outside of school too. People that I would call friends here or at home. I know I'm in the "honeymoon phase," but for now I'm really happy. Can't wait to get paid next week.

Sounds great man. I'm glad you're enjoying it.

Although my co-teachers speak decent English and they're generally polite, my school is on the whole pretty bogus and that has soured the experience for me. That and the crazed Confucian conservatism of my girlfriend's parents, but they've given up on her so that's one less worry in my life here.

I'll be glad when the weather stops being shit. Spring is supposed to be beautiful here.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 18, 2010, 09:48:17 AM
I got lucky on the school front. I only have one co-teacher and her English is damn good. She's also really sweet. I think she was more worried about me liking her than I was worried about her liking me.

Weather-wise, what the hell is going on here? We had a snowstorm yesterday. It's mid March! We didn't get this shit in Canada!
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 18, 2010, 11:09:19 AM
It's not really creepy to be a 40 year old hanging out with people in their 20s when you're living overseas. I see it all the time over here. Most of us don't speak Korean well enough to make many Korean friends, and there are only so many English speakers. You hang out with whoever you can. Bob's co-teacher is a creep because he's probably a naturally creepy guy, not because he's 40.

I have this discussion a lot- I feel like if you're over 35 or so and still here it's like. How badly did you fuck up your life that you had to come here? Don't you have anything else going on? Anyone who relies on you? It's always kind of sad and they definitley creep me out. I had over 40 friends at home, but they were either like "haha i'm a fuck up" fun dudes or people with actual lives.

Dunno. It always weirds me out here, especially because they're always talking about fucking younger Korean girls. Just gross. They're the guys who buy those videos where Asian girls like swim in a pool of eggs while some guy throws wet pantyhose at them or something

Rough thing is, he rolls deep with the cool english speaking teachers at my school. If I want to see them, I have to see him. :/

Other than that guy, things are great. Love my school, love my co-teacher and am decently happy with my area. My principal is crazy about English (yet can't speak a word) and only hires teachers who can speak it, so I've had some good times with teachers at my school. Met a ton of really cool people outside of school too. People that I would call friends here or at home. I know I'm in the "honeymoon phase," but for now I'm really happy. Can't wait to get paid next week.

Lets hang out and get rocked on Makgoelli in Hongdae. I'll reply to your e-mail tommorrow! mY HONEYMOON PHASE IS DEFINITELY OVER (fuck you caps lock!), but I still like it here. It just feels less WOW-y.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 18, 2010, 11:21:18 AM
Fuck yes. Hongdae is the shit. I need to spend some time there.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: cool breeze on March 18, 2010, 12:19:22 PM
I'm a bit confused about something.  Is Korea a temporary thing for you guys like studying abroad or did you all just choose to go over there for work?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 19, 2010, 02:00:44 AM
I'm a bit confused about something.  Is Korea a temporary thing for you guys like studying abroad or did you all just choose to go over there for work?

They all heard I was coming and then they signed up.

(Tristram and GS were here before me, I came and then I heard was coming. No one came because anyone else was here. No homo.)
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: cool breeze on March 19, 2010, 11:16:54 AM
I'm a bit confused about something.  Is Korea a temporary thing for you guys like studying abroad or did you all just choose to go over there for work?

They all heard I was coming and then they signed up.

(Tristram and GS were here before me, I came and then I heard was coming. No one came because anyone else was here. No homo.)

oh ok.  just curious because I've never heard of a college offering a study abroad program in Korea. If it is anywhere in asia, it is Japan.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 20, 2010, 06:33:35 AM
A student's father accosted me outside of the market the other day and asked if I could teach a private lesson to his son once a week. Technically it's illegal, but it's pretty hard to get caught, so I agreed to do it, and our first lesson was today. He handed me a white envelope with the money inside at the end and said "Here is your thanks expression fee."

Apparently white envelopes are a pretty common thing in this country.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 20, 2010, 11:27:09 PM
I've got a proposition for you guys. Let's all do this all you can drink boat trip:

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/event.php?eid=308078427394
 (http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/event.php?eid=308078427394)
in Seoul next Saturday. Then afterwards we can hit up Hongdae. I'm in talks to buy a bass from some dude in Suwon, so I need to make a trip up north anyway.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 21, 2010, 02:38:19 AM
I was in a department store and saw a box that said "KOSMA CLEANING SUPPLIES: DOING THE MOPPING IT IS NOT DRUDGERY". I took a pitcher.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 21, 2010, 09:40:30 AM
Where can I get a 220 to 110 voltage converter? Couldn't find one in Emart today. I don't want to blow my xbox up.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 21, 2010, 10:43:42 AM
Where can I get a 220 to 110 voltage converter? Couldn't find one in Emart today. I don't want to blow my xbox up.

They can be hard to find- Check hardware stores. If you still can't find it, try Homeplus. I can check at Costco next time I go.

I think your XBox should be okay- You may need not need a converter, just a plug adaptor. I had to look in like 10 different dollar stores before I found one, but I found it! Lemme know of you can't find it and I'll snag you one from the place near here.
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 21, 2010, 10:47:28 AM
It definitely does. I plugged it in with just an adapter and sparks shot out. I yanked the cord quick and I think it's ok.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 21, 2010, 11:03:19 AM
It definitely does. I plugged it in with just an adapter and sparks shot out. I yanked the cord quick and I think it's ok.

Sparks always shoot of my adapter, ahha. Google it-m I fried my toothbrush charger, but everything else was okay for 220v
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: brawndolicious on March 21, 2010, 11:31:51 AM
you can buy a 110v 360 power supply on ebay for about $20.  probably will cost more than that for shipping tho.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 22, 2010, 05:25:14 AM
So my co-teacher took me to a hardware store, and the guy there gave me a down converter that he said would work. Plugged it in, plugged the 360 in, fizz POP. I think my 360 is fucked now. Uggggghhhhhhhhhh. Along with the snow and the raging cold I have, today blows.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 22, 2010, 05:28:47 AM
So my co-teacher took me to a hardware store, and the guy there gave me a down converter that he said would work. Plugged it in, plugged the 360 in, fizz POP. I think my 360 is fucked now. Uggggghhhhhhhhhh. Along with the snow and the raging cold I have, today blows.

 :-\  That sucks man.  I feel your pain....years back some Chinese (?) company released this kit that would let you modify a Gameboy Advance with TV-out.  I imported it from NCSX and used a step-down converter since the documentation said to.  Fried the GBA and the adaptor.  Fortunately NCSX came through and refunded my money, plus got the GBA working/replaced (I forget which).  Since then I never bothered using those converters for video game hardware.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 22, 2010, 05:33:20 AM
I'm hoping the power brick took the brunt of the overload and I can just replace that.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 22, 2010, 05:34:04 AM
Also, my DS seems to work fine with this down converter (yeah, I had the balls to plug my DS in after blowing up my 360). I don't understand what happened.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2010, 05:34:22 AM
I would think that only the PSU is destroyed though.  I know for sure that you can just use the same power supply that comes with any korean xbox and plug it in.  The hardware inside the console is the same in all territories but only the psu's are different.  Assuming you can buy 360's in SK, you should be able to find a psu being sold by itself in some game/electronics shop.

I don't have experience with korean xbox's but my friend has a modded one from China that he has plugged into a US power 360's power supply and he's had no issues for a few years now.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 22, 2010, 05:35:42 AM
Also, my DS seems to work fine with this down converter (yeah, I had the balls to plug my DS in after blowing up my 360). I don't understand what happened.

Are you sure you need that for the DS?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 22, 2010, 05:41:50 AM
Says 120v on the powersupply.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 22, 2010, 05:57:07 AM
I'm hoping the power brick took the brunt of the overload and I can just replace that.

The power brick shouldn fry before the system, that's the idea, I think.

As for teh DS- I got a USB -> DS charger. I just plug it into my laptop. It's literally maybe 2 bucks on Dealextreme.com. Ask on Dave's about a PSU- We can also check out Yongsan this weekend, you'd probably be able to get one there.

Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 22, 2010, 06:00:26 AM
I made a post on the Technology sub-forum, but it doesn't seem that active so I don't expect much. Checking out Yongsan might be a good idea. At this point I'm willing to spend whatever I need to justify lugging that thing all the way here.

For today, my relationship with Korea gets downgraded to "It's complicated."
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 22, 2010, 06:01:28 AM
So Krazy Korea uses the same voltage as Europe, huh?  That's a bummer. 
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 22, 2010, 06:52:49 AM
[youtube=560,345]d5kstzCJ81g[/youtube]

FYI, this is how Korean kids learn English. The new curriculum is a little better, but not by much. This is also the ONLY lesson in the ENTIRE Elementary curriculum to be in 3D. I have no fucking idea why this one is different from the 100+ others.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 22, 2010, 07:00:40 AM
Still 100 times better than outdated old live action skits from the 80s and 90s used elsewhere.

Man, way back in high school Spanish, we had to watch some shitty British/Spanish "drama" from the late 70s/early 80s.  The British people trying to speak English pronounced everything so horribly.  I still remember "EL STANK-O?!  Donde esta EL STANK-O?!?!?!?"   :lol
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 22, 2010, 07:13:45 AM
Still 100 times better than outdated old live action skits from the 80s and 90s used elsewhere.

Man, way back in high school Spanish, we had to watch some shitty British/Spanish "drama" from the late 70s/early 80s.  The British people trying to speak English pronounced everything so horribly.  I still remember "EL STANK-O?!  Donde esta EL STANK-O?!?!?!?"   :lol

Oh, don't worry, the CD also has these hilarious, creepy, weird live action skits, too. And they're always so badly edited- There's this unbearable pause at the end of EVERY SINGLE ONE where the actors just stare at each other and everyone holds their breath and waits for it to be over. I'll upload some later
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 22, 2010, 07:53:26 AM
hey, how are you jinho?
hey, how are you jinho?
oh, i am fine
oh, i am fine
oh, i am fine
whao whao whao
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 22, 2010, 09:42:28 AM
hey, how are you jinho?
hey, how are you jinho?
oh, i am fine
oh, i am fine
oh, i am fine
whao whao whao

PREPARE. I have every one of those songs lodged in my cranium. I started to learn some on guitar, haha.  I also make a stupid dance every week mostly for my own amusement.

There's a good one in Grade 6 about ice skating
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 22, 2010, 09:43:54 AM
I am officially going to be in Seoul this weekend. If we don't meet up somewhere, you guys have some serious priority problems.  ;)
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 22, 2010, 10:45:20 AM
[youtube=560,345]5QWQsGwHoCE[/youtube]

Here's a sweet video of Jinho poisoning Nami.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 22, 2010, 11:10:55 AM
Re. DS chargers: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20056
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 22, 2010, 11:14:37 AM
[youtube=560,345]5QWQsGwHoCE[/youtube]

Here's a sweet video of Jinho poisoning Nami.

The new cirriculum has new videos, so they just hired kids who LOOK LIKE the old kids and it's like a weird alternate reality thing
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 22, 2010, 11:16:28 AM
Are those new Nami and Jinho or old Nami and Jinho? Those are the Nami and Jinho I've got on my CDs.

Also, Deal Extreme has 220v 360 power supplies for 28 dollars. Sweeeeet.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Himu on March 22, 2010, 11:17:50 AM
Good God, you guys who teach here have my sympathies. How do you DO it?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 22, 2010, 11:20:13 AM
Luckily for me, my co-teacher's English is good enough that she can recognize how shitty the videos are. We rarely use actual textbook material.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 22, 2010, 07:53:42 PM
This, in my opinion, is the single biggest issue with English education in Korea, and every other problem is pretty minute in comparison:

The kids advance to the next level automatically every year.

I wouldn't be surprised if the reasons for this were closely tied in with Korean society's age-based respect system and the fact that everyone born in a certain year is considered to have the same birthday. But the fact is, when everyone advances automatically and no one can be held back, you very quickly run into the problem of kids being way out of their depth and holding the whole class back. Then these kids become hopeless cases, and the Korean English teachers give up on them, and they're allowed to just float through English classes all the way through graduation.

These kids start learning English in 3rd grade, and some start even earlier. I teach middle school. By the time they get to me, they should have had three years of English education at the very least. Anyone who studies any language formally for three years should be proficient enough to have a basic conversation. Yet over half of these kids are nowhere near there. Some of them get to age 14 (at which point they would have had a minimum of five years of English education) without being able to read basic words.

It's pretty frustrating when I ask my students to describe a person's physical appearance, and the best they can muster is "Teacher! Hair! Black!" Especially when I've spent the last two lessons trying to teach them to say things like "She has long, black hair."

Students should have to face the threat of having to repeat a level if they don't learn the material by the end of the year. That alone would do wonders for the state of their ESL education.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: brawndolicious on March 22, 2010, 08:14:17 PM
..same birthday?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 23, 2010, 06:25:06 AM
So I have no idea how to enter my address on this Deal Extreme order form.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: brawndolicious on March 23, 2010, 06:35:53 AM
:lol that's the type of thing you'd never think about when moving to another country.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 23, 2010, 07:48:03 AM
So I have no idea how to enter my address on this Deal Extreme order form.

I always send things to my school. Ask your co-teach tommorrow. I have no idea what my address is, lol
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 23, 2010, 07:54:26 AM
I know my address, but I have no idea how to enter it or how receiving a package at my weird ass building would work. Better just have it sent to school.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 23, 2010, 07:55:08 AM
Well, by "know my address" i mean I have it written down on a post-it note in my co-teacher's half-legible writing.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 23, 2010, 09:33:43 AM
I know my address, but I have no idea how to enter it or how receiving a package at my weird ass building would work. Better just have it sent to school.

The few packages I've had set to me at my apartment never showed up- Ones that went to my school always arrived easy. My Secret Santa is hidden somewhere in the Korean postal system.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 26, 2010, 12:54:32 AM
Last year I had this loony co-teacher who just sat on her ass 95% of the time. But then one day it was Peppero Day! For the uninitiated, Peppero Day is when all of these kids buy Peppero (It's just Pocky, but made by a Korean company) by the fucking ton and give it to their teachers. I LOVE PEPPERO, so this was great.

Anyway, this one kid got me like a 12 inch, giant ass Peppero. I was super psyched to eat it. He was kind of being a jerk off in class, but I was like: Dude, today you get a free pass. Anyway, the teacher who is normally docile and quiet had had enough. She grabbed the 12 inch Peppero off my desk and start just beating the shit out of this kid with it. And I was like "Aneyo! My peppero!" and everyone appreciated the irony of this kid being beaten with his own well intentioned gift.

By the time I got it back, it was crumbs :(

Also, I played the word unscramble game today with my 3rd graders. The phrase was "What's this?" rendered as like "thwas htis?". One of the kids was SO SURE he had the answer and jumped out his seat going "Teacher! Teacher! Twat Shit! Twat Shit!". Hahahaha.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 26, 2010, 12:56:28 AM
Oh my god the douche bag 40 year old shit head at my school got fired. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 26, 2010, 12:57:05 AM
Today one of the other teachers disciplined two students in the office. It was one of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed.

For starters, this teacher is a woman in her late 40's to early 50's, but she's still quite attractive for a woman her age. She always dresses very elegantly and wears a bit of jewelry.

So these two students were bowing on their knees on the floor in front of her. She said something to the first one and then gave him a couple hard whacks with her stick. He kind of fell over a bit. She said something to him, and he got up and left, clearly stung by what had happened.

The second student just kind of remained there for awhile, bowing, while she talked to him. From time to time she would extend a ringed finger to raise his chin to her eye-level, all the while holding this stick in her hand like a sceptre. She talked to him for about five minutes, her tone of voice very calm and measured for the entire time. His answers were all either yes or no. Finally, he was allowed to leave without being struck. She granted him mercy.

I was trying not to make it obvious that I was watching, but I was just like  :o the entire time.
So in short you got turned on?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 26, 2010, 01:35:36 AM
Oh my god the douche bag 40 year old shit head at my school got fired. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Did he do something to provoke the firing?  Was he missing classes and shit?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: brawndolicious on March 26, 2010, 02:00:00 AM
Also, I played the word unscramble game today with my 3rd graders. The phrase was "What's this?" rendered as like "thwas htis?". One of the kids was SO SURE he had the answer and jumped out his seat going "Teacher! Teacher! Twat Shit! Twat Shit!". Hahahaha.
so I guess they use the internet in class?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 26, 2010, 02:30:59 AM
He claims they fired him because he doesn't have a white face (he's asian) but his sorry ass has been here for 9 years so I don't buy it. They probably fired him for being a worthless human-being.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: brawndolicious on March 26, 2010, 04:08:38 AM
In what way was he such a bad teacher?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 28, 2010, 01:51:41 AM
I don't know anything about his teaching abilities. He's a foreigner who taught after school, but was at the school during the day. All he'd talk about was the korean girls he'd banged in his prime and he'd complain about having no friends in Incheon. And he'd come by my office like daily, spewing that shit in front of my co-teacher. And he'd call me every night asking me to wingman. I'm glad he is fired because now he wont be coming by my office, and I can easily screen his calls.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 28, 2010, 05:13:43 AM
I know, I know...it's the Korea thread, but it's the closest thing we have to an "English teaching in Asia" thread.

RANT TIME.

My buddy originalz tells me that at the JET leavers' conference, my successor was talking some shit about me, saying that I left the apartment dirty (this is an outright lie; my wife and I worked our assess off cleaning the place out [we didn't even have to, they hire professionals to come in and do it when you leave], and she told me that it looked great when she got there) and that I didn't leave teaching materials for her (HUH?  I don't remember saying that and besides...how the fuck could I when had a different base school?) and that my former desk was nasty with used tissues inside (hey STUPID, forget that this wasn't me, I don't even fucking know where they put you...it might not have been the same desk!).

What the fuck?  I mean really, WHAT THE FUCK?  I helped this girl out a shit-ton and spent time writing detailed answers to all her fucking questions both before and after I left that job.  What a bitch.  I can only hope that she moved to a different apartment or was talking about a different base school for her sake. 
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on March 28, 2010, 05:31:04 AM
Last night we waged a war on boredom and were successful, although a baseball tee was lost in the effort. Also, a hooker showed us her boobs. Complete success.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 28, 2010, 06:00:32 AM
I know, I know...it's the Korea thread, but it's the closest thing we have to an "English teaching in Asia" thread.

RANT TIME.

My buddy originalz tells me that at the JET leavers' conference, my successor was talking some shit about me, saying that I left the apartment dirty (this is an outright lie; my wife and I worked our assess off cleaning the place out [we didn't even have to, they hire professionals to come in and do it when you leave], and she told me that it looked great when she got there) and that I didn't leave teaching materials for her (HUH?  I don't remember saying that and besides...how the fuck could I when had a different base school?) and that my former desk was nasty with used tissues inside (hey STUPID, forget that this wasn't me, I don't even fucking know where they put you...it might not have been the same desk!).

What the fuck?  I mean really, WHAT THE FUCK?  I helped this girl out a shit-ton and spent time writing detailed answers to all her fucking questions both before and after I left that job.  What a bitch.  I can only hope that she moved to a different apartment or was talking about a different base school for her sake. 

Owned.

I'm being replaced by a private ALT so whoever comes in isn't inheriting my apartment or any of my shit.  In fact, I am planning on throwing away allll my teaching plans so they have to start from scratch just like I did.

HUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUA
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 28, 2010, 07:16:42 AM
A hooker showed you her boobs. I didn't see shit.  :(
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on March 28, 2010, 04:20:21 PM

Owned.

I'm being replaced by a private ALT so whoever comes in isn't inheriting my apartment or any of my shit.  In fact, I am planning on throwing away allll my teaching plans so they have to start from scratch just like I did.

HUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUA

I have her e-mail (hell, I have her ADDRESS, lol) so I could still contact her and let her have it, but she'd probably know it came from originalz.  Don't want to start up shit if it means involving him.

I didn't use my pred's teaching materials.  That never even came up when I talked to him, although that guy really did leave the apartment a mess and all his shit in the desk.  He had to break his contract and go home immediately at the time.  Still no excuse though, but rather than whine about it I just didn't send him any of the money he requested for the stuff that was left there.

And fuck leaving your materials there.  What is that lazy shit?  Come up with your own stuff.  "HEY I'M THE NEW ALT GUYS LET'S DO THE PREVIOUS GUY'S WORK TODAY!"   ::)
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 29, 2010, 07:57:42 PM
Sweet. I went to cancel the Dealextreme order I made because last check it was "waiting on supplier," but now it looks like it has shipped.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on March 29, 2010, 09:03:55 PM

Owned.

I'm being replaced by a private ALT so whoever comes in isn't inheriting my apartment or any of my shit.  In fact, I am planning on throwing away allll my teaching plans so they have to start from scratch just like I did.

HUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUAHUA

I have her e-mail (hell, I have her ADDRESS, lol) so I could still contact her and let her have it, but she'd probably know it came from originalz.  Don't want to start up shit if it means involving him.

I didn't use my pred's teaching materials.  That never even came up when I talked to him, although that guy really did leave the apartment a mess and all his shit in the desk.  He had to break his contract and go home immediately at the time.  Still no excuse though, but rather than whine about it I just didn't send him any of the money he requested for the stuff that was left there.

And fuck leaving your materials there.  What is that lazy shit?  Come up with your own stuff.  "HEY I'M THE NEW ALT GUYS LET'S DO THE PREVIOUS GUY'S WORK TODAY!"   ::)

My lesson plans are really sweet because I write step-by-step instructions on how to do each of them (for the Japanese teachers to have), right down to how long each activity takes, more or less.  I've got it down to a science at this point.

But yeah, I wouldn't do the activities some other random dode came up with, so why would the guy who comes after me do mine?  But then, I dunno...I'm being replaced by a private company ALT so there's no telling what kind of person they'll hire.  The private companies have really low standards - as long as you're a native speaker, you can get a job, no other qualifications required.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on April 06, 2010, 11:22:38 PM
So today is SCIENCE DAY which means NO CLASSES which is fucking sweet. The kids are all in my class just building erector set robots. I was chilling with them for a bit, helping out because I LOVE THAT SHIT erector sets and whatever but then the teacher asked me to leave. It's hilarious, she's just sitting up front reading a magazine while the kids are like building huge models and stuff.

So, anyway, I'm back in my office which is attached to the room and there's only one other lady in here. For the last few days she's been sleeping on her desk which isn't that uncommon here- people just like pass out at their desk ALL THE TIME. But she's like. Sprawled on her desk like she got knocked out or something. And the office REEKS of booze. I think she's been drinking, haha. Next time she's crazy asleep I'm gonna sniff her coffee cup.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on April 06, 2010, 11:34:41 PM
Wow, you got kicked out?  That sucks, man.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on April 07, 2010, 01:02:33 AM
Haha. Today they gave me this sheet and were like: "We need all 100 of your lesson plans for afterschool" and I was like "That's a pain. Should I have it by next week?" and they said "No, by the end of today". I actually laughed. It's not possible! Haha. I told them to look for it next week.

Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on April 07, 2010, 01:05:43 AM
omg, that's insane. :rofl
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on April 07, 2010, 01:15:13 AM
Just now they handed me a paper and said "Write your topic" and I was like "What topic?" and they said "A topic about English". I asked, "What is this for?", "For English. Write a topic like Nouns or Verbs". "What? What am I doing?" "You will write a report. Pick a topic".

I wrote done "Fun English Games". I still have no idea what I just signed up for. The amount of paperwork they have teachers do here is CRAZY. I'd never be a teacher here. I'd never be anything here, haha. When I turned 18 I'd be like "Fuuu this"
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on April 07, 2010, 01:17:47 AM
The private companies have really low standards - as long as you're a native speaker, you can get a job, no other qualifications required.

Sounds like JET too!   :lol
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on April 07, 2010, 01:25:57 AM
The private companies have really low standards - as long as you're a native speaker, you can get a job, no other qualifications required.

Sounds like JET too!   :lol

No, that's just not true.  The process for applying to JET is fairly long and involved and it takes several months to even find out if you were hired.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on April 12, 2010, 11:19:22 PM
I have no idea what to do with my first and second grade afterschool classes. They dont want to do anything- I spnet hours and hours coming up with new activities and whatever, but no matter what I give them to do, they just rip it up or throw it out or just write all over it. I had this crafting station thing with like 7 different crafts and they threw the paint all over the floor, ripping up all the origami paper and broke the copy machine trying to get the paper out of it. Ugh. They're horrible.

So I went out and got like a 101-101 English book for kids and came up with a new cirriculum, but they just ripped up the new workbooks I made for them and just completely acted like I wasn't there during the cartoons and presentations I put together.

FRuck this. Everydfay is movie day from now on
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on April 13, 2010, 12:05:36 AM
HANGOUL TEACHER HANGOUL PLEAAAAAAAAASE

PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on April 13, 2010, 01:14:10 AM
If I get sick one more time in this crazy country I'm going to kill myself.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on April 13, 2010, 02:08:34 AM
If I get sick one more time in this crazy country I'm going to kill myself.

I get sick crazy often here. Wash your hands a lot, these people fucking sneeze and cough all over EVERYTHING
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on April 13, 2010, 02:55:16 AM
Okay. Now I'm kinda miffed.


They gave the other teacher a like AP English class for all of the really smart kids. BUT SHE GIVES THE ENTIRE LESSON IN KOREAN. Literally, not a word of English the whole time. Shouldn't I be teaching that class and she should be teaching the little kids who cant understand a fucking word I say?

Sometimes this place drives me TOTALLY BONKERS
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on April 13, 2010, 03:00:35 AM
Tell her that.  And then pee in her face.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Pure Premium on April 13, 2010, 05:24:12 AM
Kimchee farts are nasty.  :yuck
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 13, 2010, 05:34:59 AM
Okay. Now I'm kinda miffed.


They gave the other teacher a like AP English class for all of the really smart kids. BUT SHE GIVES THE ENTIRE LESSON IN KOREAN. Literally, not a word of English the whole time. Shouldn't I be teaching that class and she should be teaching the little kids who cant understand a fucking word I say?

Sometimes this place drives me TOTALLY BONKERS

They told me that I could get some overtime hours teaching an advanced English course. I was pretty excited about it. I'd get to actually teach a class something they might remember. I had an advanced class over the winter break, and it was awesome. Best class I've ever had in Korea.

The first meeting was yesterday, and the kids weren't advanced at all. Well, maybe three of them are. I made a nice, intermediate lesson for them, and those three finished the first worksheet in about two minutes while the others sat there dumbfounded. This class just isn't going to work. My co-teachers says "teach to the middle," but there is no middle. There are advanced students who are capable of writing essays, and then there are a bunch of short-bussers who should still be learning "the ball is red."
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tristam on April 13, 2010, 09:49:26 AM
Bob, GilloD: I hear ya. I'm sick ALL THE FUCKING TIME here. I'm sick right now.

In the US, I got sick maybe once a year or once every other year. Here I get sick ONCE A MONTH.

Here's four reasons why:
1. Teaching elementary school Korean kids without a Korean co-teacher is unbelievably stressful.
2. Riding a packed bus with pushy ajumma and ajeoshi in a 1 hr 30 min round-trip commute every day is killer.
3. Being around little kids all the time.
4. The air quality sucks.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 13, 2010, 09:52:32 AM
Tristam, they couldn't get you an apartment closer to your school?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on April 13, 2010, 12:43:23 PM
Okay. Now I'm kinda miffed.


They gave the other teacher a like AP English class for all of the really smart kids. BUT SHE GIVES THE ENTIRE LESSON IN KOREAN. Literally, not a word of English the whole time. Shouldn't I be teaching that class and she should be teaching the little kids who cant understand a fucking word I say?

Sometimes this place drives me TOTALLY BONKERS

They told me that I could get some overtime hours teaching an advanced English course. I was pretty excited about it. I'd get to actually teach a class something they might remember. I had an advanced class over the winter break, and it was awesome. Best class I've ever had in Korea.

The first meeting was yesterday, and the kids weren't advanced at all. Well, maybe three of them are. I made a nice, intermediate lesson for them, and those three finished the first worksheet in about two minutes while the others sat there dumbfounded. This class just isn't going to work. My co-teachers says "teach to the middle," but there is no middle. There are advanced students who are capable of writing essays, and then there are a bunch of short-bussers who should still be learning "the ball is red."

I had something like that last semester- Have the smart kids work with the idiots. Deputize them. Also, do a lot of crafts so they can visualize the lesson. Skill levels are ALL OVER THE PLACE everywhere, it's nuts.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on April 13, 2010, 05:31:55 PM
The private companies have really low standards - as long as you're a native speaker, you can get a job, no other qualifications required.

Sounds like JET too!   :lol

No, that's just not true.  The process for applying to JET is fairly long and involved and it takes several months to even find out if you were hired.

And yet, after all that...

...it's still the same thing!   :lol  But something tells me that the JETs who break contracts and leave early, as in a few weeks or months in (fuckers who give everyone else a bad rep) are a much bigger deal than some private company teacher leaving. 

Notables in my area included emo-guy with black/purple hair covering one side of his face plus matching black/purple suit (he left maybe a month in, and IIRC his supervisor happened to be in charge of all the prefecture JETs; she wasn't a fan of them to begin with and this made it far worse...good thing I was a municipal!) and "I'm just here because my girlfriend is too"/"WAH WAH WAAAAAAAAAAAH I'm not in a big city/there's no clubs" whiny-Indian dude who left after only a few weeks.  I replaced someone who broke contract too, but at least that guy had an actual REASON for leaving (sick family member).
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on April 13, 2010, 07:16:36 PM
Yes, if you leave early, the Japanese Embassy you were hired from actually receives a penalty from the Japanese government, and the number of JETs they're allowed to hire decreases for the next two years.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on April 13, 2010, 11:42:22 PM
Two of my five classes got mysteriously canceled today. I'm not complaining.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on April 23, 2010, 12:21:25 AM
Our neighbors down the hall used to live in China and they speak pretty good Chinese. This is good news because a lot of the better Chinese restaurants in Korea only have menus in Chinese. Maybe once or twice a month we hoof over there and let our neighbors pick the good stuff off the menu.

As is often the case in Korea, we’re probably the only white people to wander in in a given week, if not ever. This is a good thing. The waitstaff starts to recognize you and on your second or third visit the freebies start to show up. “Service!” is the word for this and they’ll just drop a plate of food on your table with a smile. This happened at the Chinese place, just like it always does.

But we couldn’t quite place the mystery dish. From the outside it looked like popcorn chicken. And it was definitely a game-y bird, but not duck. And it was bony as hell. In a single little pebble-sized bite you’d find 6 or 8 tiny, edible bones. The smart money was on Quail, but who chops up quail into tiny little pieces and deep fries it? The cook kept telling us it was a good snack with beer, but his Korean-Chinese mishmash kept us from determining the true nature of our special snack. By the end of the meal we were determined to find out what this thing was. A lot of back and forth ensued, but here’s the gist: Deep-fried Quail Fetus. It’s not unusual to find a bird-fetus dish in most Asian cultures. Korea doesn’t really do it, but it’s prevalent elsewhere. And I guess this guy brought it with him from China. And then we ate it. And I’d do it again. So that’s the time I ate a fetus.

BONUS STORY: We had a special school lunch today. We went down he street to eat octopus and bulgogi soup. The best part of this meal is when the guy comes over with a big ol’ bowl of water, pulls out a hell of a monster octopus, drops it into your boiling pot of vegetables and broth and then slams down the glass lid on top of it so that you can watch this creature try and escape, fail, and die before you eat it. We ate two of these, so the second time this happened I was able to eat octopus while watching an octopus die. Forget farm to table cuisine, try Meta-dining.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bork on April 23, 2010, 12:51:10 AM

As is often the case in Korea, we’re probably the only white people to wander in in a given week, if not ever. This is a good thing. The waitstaff starts to recognize you and on your second or third visit the freebies start to show up. “Service!” is the word for this and they’ll just drop a plate of food on your table with a smile. This happened at the Chinese place, just like it always does.

There's a Chinese restaurant back in Kanazawa that would do the same thing.  I always got "service."  Free drinks and food.  My (American) friends would too when I'd bring them there.  My wife?  Nothing!  Her friends?  Nothing!   :lol
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: brawndolicious on April 23, 2010, 01:48:43 AM
Our neighbors down the hall used to live in China and they speak pretty good Chinese. This is good news because a lot of the better Chinese restaurants in Korea only have menus in Chinese. Maybe once or twice a month we hoof over there and let our neighbors pick the good stuff off the menu.
As is often the case in Korea, we’re probably the only white people to wander in in a given week, if not ever. This is a good thing. The waitstaff starts to recognize you and on your second or third visit the freebies start to show up. “Service!” is the word for this and they’ll just drop a plate of food on your table with a smile. This happened at the Chinese place, just like it always does.
But we couldn’t quite place the mystery dish. From the outside it looked like popcorn chicken. And it was definitely a game-y bird, but not duck. And it was bony as hell. In a single little pebble-sized bite you’d find 6 or 8 tiny, edible bones. The smart money was on Quail, but who chops up quail into tiny little pieces and deep fries it? The cook kept telling us it was a good snack with beer, but his Korean-Chinese mishmash kept us from determining the true nature of our special snack. By the end of the meal we were determined to find out what this thing was. A lot of back and forth ensued, but here’s the gist: Deep-fried Quail Fetus. It’s not unusual to find a bird-fetus dish in most Asian cultures. Korea doesn’t really do it, but it’s prevalent elsewhere. And I guess this guy brought it with him from China. And then we ate it. And I’d do it again. So that’s the time I ate a fetus.
BONUS STORY: We had a special school lunch today. We went down he street to eat octopus and bulgogi soup. The best part of this meal is when the guy comes over with a big ol’ bowl of water, pulls out a hell of a monster octopus, drops it into your boiling pot of vegetables and broth and then slams down the glass lid on top of it so that you can watch this creature try and escape, fail, and die before you eat it. We ate two of these, so the second time this happened I was able to eat octopus while watching an octopus die. Forget farm to table cuisine, try Meta-dining.
I thought you were vegetarian?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on April 23, 2010, 01:50:28 AM
That's really fucked up, Gillo.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on April 23, 2010, 02:21:55 AM
That's really fucked up, Gillo.

Koreans love to brutalize octopus.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: chronovore on April 23, 2010, 04:01:23 AM
Yeah, I know a guy who lived here for 10 years, loved everything about Japan, but would not eat iki-zukuri, the sashimi that comes arrayed on the still-living beast which supplied it. When it arrives, the fish's tail is still twitching and if you put alcohol on the fish's lips it will open and close, as though you are sharing an intimate drink with your "dining companion." /lecter
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Tristam on April 23, 2010, 02:11:57 PM
Tristam, they couldn't get you an apartment closer to your school?

They could, but I chose my own place so I could live near my girlfriend. She and a great friend of mine (both from Gwangju) studied abroad at my alma mater last year. I was interested in an EFL gig in Japan, but when I looked into it the deadline for JET had already passed. My Korean buddy suggested I go to Korea instead, since he'd be there in August and so I wouldn't be completely on my own. He told me he didn't know much about teaching EFL in Korea, so he referred me to her, and that's how we met.

Tomorrow I'm going with some friends to play a soccer game in a little place called Gwanyang. After that I'm sure that we'll all go to the public bath together. Good times.

Oh, and a random aside: I'm sure you guys notice that Koreans have like this universal tone for complaining about something. It drives me up the fucking wall hearing grown men and women of all ages use it.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on April 26, 2010, 12:37:45 AM
 :drudge Holy shit! There's a white kid in my school! :drudge

Seriously. I like stopped dead in my tracks and just stared at him and he stared at me and I said "Hello!" and he said "Anyong!" and I said, "How are you?" and he said something in Korean and ran away. It's some kind of weird reverse adoption thing. He speaks 0 English and perfect Korean. What the fuuu.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 26, 2010, 12:53:07 AM
:drudge Holy shit! There's a white kid in my school! :drudge

Seriously. I like stopped dead in my tracks and just stared at him and he stared at me and I said "Hello!" and he said "Anyong!" and I said, "How are you?" and he said something in Korean and ran away. It's some kind of weird reverse adoption thing. He speaks 0 English and perfect Korean. What the fuuu.

Huh. Never heard of that before.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on April 26, 2010, 12:55:13 AM
Haha. Things I don't get about Korea #456: My co-teachers are taking down all of the stuff the kids made that I had hung up. The reason? "Children's parents do not like decorations in the classroom".
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on April 26, 2010, 01:12:33 AM
You serious? Is it your classroom?  If so, wth right do they have to tell you what to do with it or not?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on June 03, 2010, 12:24:42 AM
Some thoughts from the last few weeks to a firend of mine:

So, anyway, re: Korea. I dunno. At first I was like HAHA EVERYTHING IS SO CRAZY but at some point it's like STOP BEING SO FUCKING CRAZY ALL THE TIME. It's just like everything is at cross purposes. They gave us a budget of like $5,000 for odds and ends this year. I usually just have my kids decorate the room- I have like big, labeled displays of "Christmas!" and "Winter" and "Spring" and lots of vocabulary with images and whatever.

Well, this inspector came in and was like THESE ARE NOT OFFICIAL CURRICULUM DECORATIONS and so OVERNIGHT they came in and fucking shredded them. Then they spent like $1,500 on the offical cirriculum decorations. They're awful. They're full of broken English, mis-spellings and just plain weird dialog (SAMPLE "Father, how are we going fortunate?" "Son huuuu we are good for everything". They also feature a black kid named 00). And the inspector comes back and is like FINALLY SOME ENGLISH AROUND HERE.

I will tell you that bar-none Koreans are the WORST English speakers in the world. They're unbearably pig headed. And like a lot of these things in society they PRETEND it's really super fucking important and then they just cancel all your classes or give the kids 100 on the exam regardless of how they do. It's stupid and silyl

OR LIKE JUST FUCKING RIGHT NOW I had a huge bottle of water on my desk. I came back and it was missing. I'm like "Where'd my water go?" and they all polay this game where they like to pretend that SUDDENLY no one can speak English. So I'm like "Guys, there's was a bottle of water on my desk, where'd it go?" and the teacher says "Oh, Vice Princiapl said the office was messy so we had to throw it out".

Shit like that is mindbending and frustrating and absolutely infuriating. It will drive you gonzo. And it does! I saw a car HIT a kid last week driving through a red light (Red lights are like suggestions here), get out to see if the kid was okay and the FINISH BLOWING THE LIGHT. I actually just kind of lost it on the middle of the sidewalk and shouted "Are you fucking kidding me?".

So, yeah. It's a zany place. But the pay is really good and, honestly, these kinds of things make up a petty minority of the time spent here, even if they make up the vast majority of assorted agonies. Weekends are great- There's a cool, young neighborhood nearby that's like what new York must have been 10 or 15 years ago. People just open cafes and businesses in alleyways and their basements and whatever. Bands play the basements. It's cheap as shit. You remember how broke Mary & I were- We spend with absolute frivolousness here and still bank between 1.5 and 2k a month.

So, I dunno. Some days I'm like LETS STAY FOREVER and the other days I'm like LETS LEAVE TOMMORROW, but I think New York was like that, too.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Reb on June 03, 2010, 05:01:50 AM
Shit like that is mindbending and frustrating and absolutely infuriating. It will drive you gonzo. And it does! I saw a car HIT a kid last week driving through a red light (Red lights are like suggestions here), get out to see if the kid was okay and the FINISH BLOWING THE LIGHT. I actually just kind of lost it on the middle of the sidewalk and shouted "Are you fucking kidding me?".

I don't understand what's going on in this part? Are there typos or missing words here?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: brawndolicious on June 03, 2010, 05:12:02 AM
Oh he's just saying that the car did a hit & run.

That's just the way that they show love in that country.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Reb on June 03, 2010, 05:20:07 AM
But what happens when he gets out the car to see the kid is OK?

"get out to see if the kid was okay and the FINISH BLOWING THE LIGHT"

???
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: brawndolicious on June 03, 2010, 05:30:36 AM
I think that when he got up to the kid, the car just continued down the intersection.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on June 03, 2010, 07:38:10 AM
Shit's still weird for me dude. My co-teacher confided in me about her failing marriage in the middle of class, and I was on national TV today putting pantyhose on my friend's head.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on June 03, 2010, 08:31:41 PM
I think that when he got up to the kid, the car just continued down the intersection.

Si.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: chronovore on June 06, 2010, 10:59:59 PM
Shit's still weird for me dude. My co-teacher confided in me about her failing marriage in the middle of class, and I was on national TV today putting pantyhose on my friend's head.
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Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on June 07, 2010, 02:08:45 AM
Korean guys really like me for some reason. This weekend a Korean guy felt my butt and kung fu gripped my arm while 4 friends desperately tried to pry him off and prevent a likely rape.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on July 12, 2010, 10:32:07 PM
Yesterday: Tommorrow, no class for you! Come in, rest. (I ask: So, I don't have to plan a lesson?) No,no. No class, take it easy.

Today: Oh, sorry, big chang-ee. 5 classes today, okay? And your co-teacher, she not coming, she has other work. Please dont show movie, principal does not like that. Please understand.


They always say 'Please Understand' whenever something majorly fucked up happens.

Anyway, I've had 2 classes today and they're HORROR STORIES. My screen/projector is still busted after 4 weeks, so I'm showing them Spongebob on a screen the size of a netbook. I had 3 fist fights, but I have no idea what they're about and I can't kick the kids out the room because they don't understand a fucking lick of English and the VP/Principal never wanna deal with it. My boss-ish lady keeps telling me I can't show movies, but when I ask about Plan B she just says "Oh just teach them a lesson".

I tried this for about 4 minutes. I swear to God I've never seen a colder reception, they basically acted like I wasn't even there. That's when the first fight started.

Anyway. The semester is over in 3 days. God help me.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: T234 on July 12, 2010, 10:35:22 PM
Beat people with giant dildos, it sends a message.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on July 12, 2010, 10:50:35 PM
http://ihateteachinginkorea.blogspot.com/ This guy is a crazy complainer, but he's dead on the money
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Flannel Boy on July 12, 2010, 10:54:03 PM
http://ihateteachinginkorea.blogspot.com/ This guy is a crazy complainer, but he's dead on the money

You sure have bad luck with jobs. I eagerly await your thread on working in a Nike sweatshop in Bangladesh
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on July 12, 2010, 10:56:40 PM
Honestly, this job isn't that bad. Most days it's pretty okay. But the end of this semester has just been an ugly, hellish slog.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: cool breeze on July 12, 2010, 11:41:19 PM
how did you resolve the fight?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: GilloD on July 13, 2010, 01:13:57 AM
I smacked them both on the back of the head and moved them to opposite sides of the room.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: chronovore on July 13, 2010, 02:36:40 AM
With dildos?
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: bagofeyes on July 13, 2010, 08:58:40 PM
asians are weird
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on July 13, 2010, 09:01:27 PM
Whoa.
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 13, 2010, 09:01:56 PM
Leper Ichirou for bringing back his joke character. 
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Post by: Ichirou on July 13, 2010, 09:02:34 PM
Leper Willco

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Admin Smooth Groove

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Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 13, 2010, 09:03:49 PM
Fine, as future admin, I will allow you to also bring back Synbios. 
Title: Re: Semester 2 of Krazy Korea begins today
Post by: Ichirou on July 13, 2010, 09:04:36 PM
I need to practice typing with my feet again, then.