Just hit 90 minutes in and I'm finally able to start fusing. Let the grindan begin! Also:
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The black guy dies first. :lol
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the castle
It was about 7000 to summon her and I had like 30k so I really didn't think twice about it.
yea i just did it the hard way and my compendium entry is around 6000 too,this system kinda makes me angry,i mean what stops me from using a password for a low level demon with high skills like megido? why bother hunting all the ingredient for the special fusion when you can just get them via password? heck why bother with special summoning at all when you can buy the thing directly?
it just seems like a cheap and not very well tought way to add a pointless comunity aspect to the game,kinda like that stupid mail system from ff3 remake
but anyway i finaly finished sector B,was the place ever labyrinthic! the boss went down without much trouble,cheap instant death spells aside,the thing that hurt him the most and that dealt the final blow?
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his own mabufudyne reflected by jack frost
oh i forgot to ask,does agility still affect hit/dodge rate? i upped my agility to +3 with sukunda but still couldn't dodge shit (tough this would be a good thing)
it's good it's good
i just finished sector C,it was bigger than what i expected after archie said it was small!
anyway
have you done the jack frost sidequest? the reward is awesome! i feel vindicated for all the time i got something stupid like a bunch of medicine in etrian odyssey
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you get a gun with 55 attack that can deal heavy wind or ice damage or alternatively medium lighting damage,you also get to fusion summon a super hero jack frost
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yggdrasil
I was expecting a badass fight and got something for nothing really, does that mean Im due for a fight later in the game
in sector C
Location
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remember the place where you found horkus first time? there was a dark tunnel a little before that,that dark tunnel looks like it has only one exit but in fact it has two,just hugs the wall and you'll find it
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you need to bring him an ice vest,you get this by finding 3 drops from the uma that looks like a flying fox and 2 drops from the monster that looks like a foot with an angry face
EDIT: wow i just found my first fiend,he kicked my ass much harder than any of the boss has ever done
have you created doppleganger archie?
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first demon i found with reflect strike,very usefull! bosses and high level mobs end up doing up to 100 damage to themselves
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see in the dark
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on the third floor
meanwhile i got an achievements for bumping into a wall 255 times,i feel special!
anyway what's the deal with the bomb status beside being the latest in cheap instant death designed to piss off the player technology by atlus?
EDIT: cleared stratum D,the boss went down like a rock :lol
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frost shot + black frost + ace frost + other neutral ice demon = huge damage
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8
Edit: For reference, I'm at 26 hours played and I'm at the tail end of the 5th dungeon. I have only consulted an online map once so I have spent alot of time just being lost and trying to figure things out. (Warp panels :'()
i already said it in the spoiler some post ago but anyway
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b2,there is a dark tunnel with two exit,one exit brings you to the room where you first encounter horkos and the other to the jack frost that gives you the quest
Then I met the first boss in the 6th dungeon and died because spoiler (click to show/hide)
I was wearing armor weak to fire :lol
MOST
ANNOYING
DUNGEON
EVER
i had to fucking write a map on a piece of paper so i would stop walking in circle! that's how bad it was!
then at a certain point i tought i went inside every warp but still couldn't find the last thing i needed... the reason?
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THOSE BASTARD NOT HAPPY WITH HAVING LIKE 20 WARPS AROUND PUT A HIDDEN PASSAGE IN ONE OF THE ROOMS! OH AND THE NEXT BIT INVOLVE HOLES AND BACKTRACKING EVERYTIME YOU FALL INTO A HOLE! I EXPECT THAT THE NEXT DUNGEON WILL HAVE A TINY GNOME WHO WILL KICK ME IN MY NUTS EVERY 5 MINUTES OR SO
AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH
no! i wouldn't take this shit!
i resetted and repeated the boss,this time i keeped my neutral alignment (by the way i just found my first chaos/law only piece of equipment but none of them looked particulary impressive,still the loot whore in me is a little saddened) the next bit is somewhat spoilerish so...
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"easy boss" i say
NOOOOOOOPPPPPPPEEEEE
now you have to fight the guy again! and he has a move that inflict random status ailment,and these include stone and bomb YAAAAYYYYY INSTANT CHEAP DEATH,WE MISSED YOU GUYS! it's like... it's not an atlus game without you guys,so anyway my current team can deal quite a lot of damage to him,especialy agidyne guy but they have a hard time surviving his death wave move,main character doesn't seems to take a lot of damage so maybe it's a physic move and i should try a physic resistant team (or better yet add doppleganger back on the team... but his stat sucks now and he's likely to die at the first hama :/) i could use king frost mediaharan but sometimes he goes after the boss so i still end up with dead guys,maybe i should get a anti-stone or anti-bomb ring for my character and just solo the boss if my team die,my character barely takes any damage so unless i get hit by annoying instacheapdeathtrademarkbyatlus i'm pretty safe
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Tiamat
btw does anyone know of some good breeding/fusing/whatever guides? I want to get War Cry, Fog Breath and Acid Breath on a demon that is invulnerable to ice and I really haven't the faintest of ideas on how to do it.
Got her. :rock My party was spoiler (click to show/hide)
MC, King Frost, Orcus, and Gogmagog.
That is why I love SMT so much. No substantial grindan, just a different approach. :rock
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What?
JIMENEZ is evolving!
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwT8FOyXkMw[/youtube]
Congratulation your JIMENEZ evolved into CHAOSHEROBUGANEZ
currently level 54 guess i'm not far from sector F boss?
i only need to
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kick asura v.2 ass
EDIT: okay i've defeated sector F boss,it wasn't as hard as people here are making it...
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bought a ice resistant armor,a ring to boost lighting damage,brought king frost as a healer,a hel with a spriggan source fused on it which gave me both dekaja to counter her buff's and a lighting attack and another neutral demon which knew ziodyne,near the end the ziodyne demon died so i replaced him with oroborus which also known a lighting attack and that was it
EDIT2: fuck i've just found gogmagog,previous boss should have been even more easier :lol
i think i'm getting further than archie
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Mastema: i'll turn into you into an angel
Zelenin: :-*
*flash of light*
Zelenin: how do i look? :smug
Me: where is the "like the biggest whore ever!" option?
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mai waifu ;_;.
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everyone was charmed and I thought I could kill her in one more turn so I used an attack instead of a bead.
The 7th boss. :rofl
I figured her out on the second try, but that was a rude surprise!
What's better, this or Devil Survivor?
SJ is much better. The story is uguu free and there is far more customability.
i just defeated it and yea... it wasn't cool from them to do such a thing :-\
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girimekala made the fight 10 times easier
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are these door alignment specific? what's behind them? does that mean i will never be able to completly map grus?
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i guess i immediately switch to chaos or law if i tell commander gore that demons/god are awesome? do i gain anything by such a switch? i really want to punch the guy in the face for being a huge jerk who deals 380 damage even when i'm wearing a physic resistant armor AND defending
still think i'll go neutral,you are doing neutral too archie?
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you win this round gore! you are lucky because otherwise i would have kicked your sorry ass!
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mai waifu ;_;.
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everyone was charmed and I thought I could kill her in one more turn so I used an attack instead of a bead.
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That fight took me A LOT of tries. For me that was probably the toughest boss in the game. Kept getting charmed and destroyed.
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if you talk to the guy in the deck he'll give you some mission,i always tought he was just a useless NPC :-\
i have to find a lilim,apparently it's in sector B but i can't find one for the sake of me... anyone remembers if it's inside the castle or outside it?
I was worried that the last dungeon would be a rush job. I am very happy that it is quite the opposite. If anything, it is the best dungeon in the game.
Personal rankings: (spoiler tagging just in case)
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8 > 5 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 1
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the bitch is dead :smug,it wasn't that hard,luster candy is awesome,i made the unholy version of virgin maria as a healer since she null lighting,i'm surprised they went that far :lol
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(http://i39.tinypic.com/2wn64i8.jpg)
She costs 350k Macca so I barely had enough to afford her. As I said, it was a cheap excuse but I had just finished grinding for about an hour and I still lost to the boss ~5 times in a row so I was getting frustrated.
:lol :lol :lol
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i kicked jimenez ass on my first try without any preparation at all and no healer,i went with rangda,girimekhala and that ninja ogre i can't remember the name (ongyo-ki) the guy made use and abuse of chaos tack but all his attack got reflected by rangda,i don't think i'm exagerating when i'm saying he dealt himself over 3000 damage and that he himself was the biggest damage dealer of the fight,he used hellfire once but i was so buffed and he was so debuffed thanks to the luster candy/debilitate combination that it really didn't deal much damage,then he started using a skill that inflicted bomb status over and over and over,i used several amrita to defuse everyone who got inflicted and after that he was dead
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"EHY LET'S PUT THESE GUYS WHO UNSUSPECTING DRAIN MP FROM YOU AND THEN THEY ALL CAST MEGIDOLA FOR LIKE A TOTAL OF 800 DAMAGE OUT OF 500 HP YOUR GUY HAS!
EDIT: yay i finaly reached the final boss! i'm level 76,should i grind to level 91 so i can get the cool stuff like shiva or do you guys think it's doable on level 76 too?
Just beat the game legit. :smug
My final lineup was:
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MC: Level 82
Huang Long: Level 80
Xi Wangmu: Level 80
Free slot
My MC was essentially useless. I only defended and threw items with him. Huang Long spammed Luster Candy and Megidolaon while Xi Wangmu healed and the free slot was either for a demon with debilitate or some spare damage.
Odds are you will have to grind for a bit, magus. The Trumpeters are good for exp, but they are very rare. :-\
Awesome game. The music was pretty awful though, and the sparse number of tracks didn't help. Go back to the butt rock for SMT5 Atlus. Thanks.
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yea i got up to level 78 so i could make huang long and the boss seems impossible! huang long is the only one who seems to be able to take more than two hits,thor can somewhat survive and is a decent damage dealer but that leaves the third spot empty... i wanted a demon with charge,physic amp and madness crush but the only one who can gets this combination is fenrir and he dies faster than i can blink my eye
even if i do so,it takes forever just to get her in the red and that was after bouncing 2000 point worth of damage to her thanks to some lucky reflect by rangda and girimekhala
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Metatron
Edit: I also had over 1 million Macca at the end of the game. :lol
yea that sounds like a good idea tough
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i'm fusing kartikeya and garuda so i think he'll be the luster candy guy... he also gain charge so either i'll put my ongyo source and give him charge + physical amp + stuff or use a rangda source and give him both luster candy and debilitate
i finished!
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my team
MC: level 84,spammed bead chains mostly,used a megidola stone when permitted
Metatron: Level 84: charge,berserk god,charge,berserk god,metatron dealt more damage than the rest of the party together,he also had luster candy but i didn't abuse it for fear of the boss cancelling it
Trumpeter: megidola,megidola,megidola,this guy ran out of MP quickly so the main character had to use a chakra pot on him once in a while,like metatron the guy had debilitate but i didn't use it too much for fear of the boss cancelling it
Huang Long: fire amp powered up his agidyne to megidola level so i used agidyne instead,too bad i couldn't give the guy trisagion
even with this setup it taked forever! (not to mention that on my first try the second form of the boss decided to instakill the MC,that's really a good idea atlus! </sarcasm>) anyway just how the heck you pulled it off with that party archie? it must have taken hours!
anyway i liked this quite a lot,better than the other atlus game tough the dungeon design slighty piss me off... i mean do they really need to hide important place? there were time where i got stuck for several hours only because i couldn't find a secret passage or something,that's not good! also the loot could have been worked better,i didn't like the idea of finding base forma (it feels like it's there just because those guys reaaaaaalllllyyyy loved the gathering point in EO) and most of the things you can buy are useless,get a physic resistant armor and you are done (casualy the best one of these is gived you by a quest) similiary i really didn't need to switch gun anymore after getting the frost cannon,some guns might have better power but none features better spells,did they make the cannon too strong or the other guns too weak? i don't know but it still feel somewhat wrong
but as i said this is a better game than persona 3,raidou,DDS and etrian odyssey and it also features new demon design for once!
i didn't think the game was very hard as long as you used some common sense
"THE BOSS HITS HARD WITH ICE ATTACK,WHAT SHOULD I DO??"
anyway it seems that on the chaos path
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you don't fight mem aleph,you get to fight mastema when you are supposed to fight zelenin and you fight zelenin as a final boss... that sounds pretty weak,even if we are talking about a powered up zelenin,it's still a boss with a weakness and with a very specific skill sets,the final boss was hard because it had literaly everything!
also is it just me or most of the law demon sucks pretty bad? every special fusion gives you either a neutral or a chaos demon,and most of the good resistence (read,physic resistence) are found on these so....
the last 10 year is a pretty big period of time,without thinking much about it i would say that dragon quest 8 spoiler (click to show/hide)
dhoulmagus fight or empyrea fight