Author Topic: Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey (Read 19745 times)

Himu · « **Reply #60 on:** March 24, 2010, 02:30:53 AM »

suck my nuts archie

demi · « **Reply #61 on:** March 24, 2010, 02:38:39 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 24, 2010, 02:23:18 AM

Quote from: demi on March 23, 2010, 05:12:18 PM
Game has issues on cards

crash during the opening fmv?

Yeah, but I skipped it, and it simply refuses to save now. I think like... 2 cards can run it fine

Vizzys · « **Reply #62 on:** March 24, 2010, 02:57:26 AM »

3 hours in

its kinda like etrian odyssey only smt and therefore better

Bebpo · « **Reply #63 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:29:50 AM »

Quote from: demi on March 24, 2010, 02:38:39 AM

Quote from: Bebpo on March 24, 2010, 02:23:18 AM
Quote from: demi on March 23, 2010, 05:12:18 PM
Game has issues on cards

crash during the opening fmv?

Yeah, but I skipped it, and it simply refuses to save now. I think like... 2 cards can run it fine

Yeah, the JP rom had that problem too. Guess you will have to wait until your physical copy arrives.

Beezy · « **Reply #64 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:37:20 AM »

Quote from: demi on March 24, 2010, 02:38:39 AM

Yeah, but I skipped it, and it simply refuses to save now. I think like... 2 cards can run it fine

You know which ones? *crosses fingers*

demi · « **Reply #65 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:39:23 AM »

Not the one you have

Beezy · « **Reply #66 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:43:44 AM »

You have no idea what I have. I just got it last week.

demi · « **Reply #67 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:45:21 AM »

Bet I could guess

Beezy · « **Reply #68 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:47:54 AM »

I'm listening.

magus · « **Reply #69 on:** March 24, 2010, 06:55:56 AM »

a fix is out for my card

EDIT: ok so impressions

- the opinion expressed in this game aren't those of atlus employe... blablabla seriously is there any need for this shit other so than a random reviewer can claim that the game has "A MATOOR STORY"
- intro starts up... "EARTH IS A PLANET" no? really? i guess that going by the previous message atlus has a different definition of earth
- humanity is evil,everybody is going to die,that's the gist of it
- this commander guy simply won't shut up
- in fact it takes a good 30 minutes before the intro is over and you can put the first steps on the first dungeon
- aaaaaaaaaaaand i like this! it's like someone meshed up nocturne with the good bits of etrian odyssey,there are monsters drop that you can use to buy new equipment and that equipment change your skills and resistance arounds and the demon fusion system is identical to nocturne which is how it should work in the first place,i like the followup idea much more than the rush system of persona,first it force you to have specific party setup to really take advantage of it,and seconds you don't end up doing more damage with the followup than with the normal attack so it's not like you end up killing everyone as soon as you hit the weakness of something

tiesto · « **Reply #70 on:** March 24, 2010, 08:01:40 PM »

Picked it up today, no idea when I'll actually get to it. I'm so backlogged with handheld RPGs atm.

Ichirou · « **Reply #71 on:** March 24, 2010, 11:41:02 PM »

So this uses the Etrian Odyssey engine...I wish it wasn't first person. :/

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #72 on:** March 24, 2010, 11:42:30 PM »

Ichirou · « **Reply #73 on:** March 24, 2010, 11:44:37 PM »

I'm buying it this weekend.

FatalT · « **Reply #74 on:** March 25, 2010, 12:15:00 AM »

Supposedly a fix is out for the M3 Real woohoo!

archie4208 · « **Reply #75 on:** March 25, 2010, 11:03:08 AM »

Quote from: a slime appears on March 25, 2010, 10:08:34 AM

I'm wondering how this matches up against EO, aka the Real Deal. I've got a friend who's a die hard fan and I'd like to recommend him something other than waiting for the eventual EO3 translation.

It is far better than EO.

*No lolis
*Far more customization
*The annoying bits from EO (mapping and tradeskilling) are streamlined

Quote from: Kosma on March 25, 2010, 10:28:32 AM

@ everyone here who says MMO's arent games but loves some grinding in single player games

I don't have to interact with people when playing SJ so it is better by default.

magus · « **Reply #76 on:** March 25, 2010, 11:51:03 AM »

Quote from: archie4208 on March 25, 2010, 11:03:08 AM

Quote from: a slime appears on March 25, 2010, 10:08:34 AM
I'm wondering how this matches up against EO, aka the Real Deal. I've got a friend who's a die hard fan and I'd like to recommend him something other than waiting for the eventual EO3 translation.

It is far better than EO.

*No lolis
*Far more customization
*The annoying bits from EO (mapping and tradeskilling) are streamlined

Quote from: Kosma on March 25, 2010, 10:28:32 AM
@ everyone here who says MMO's arent games but loves some grinding in single player games

I don't have to interact with people when playing SJ so it is better by default.

but you have to do it here on bore

anyway i too thinks it's better than EO but it's more because i dislike EO job system and how some jobs make or break the game
here it's like "the boss is weak to lighting? let me make some lighting demon and get some nice lighting equipment" and it's good this way!

Himu · « **Reply #77 on:** March 25, 2010, 12:03:03 PM »

CAN'T WAIT FOR TRUE SMT GOODNESS

archie4208 · « **Reply #78 on:** March 25, 2010, 12:46:57 PM »

The boss battles are SO FUCKING GOOD.

The 3rd dungeon was disappointingly short, though. :'(

magus · « **Reply #79 on:** March 25, 2010, 01:15:37 PM »

are you talking about

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the castle

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or zone C?

archie4208 · « **Reply #80 on:** March 25, 2010, 01:16:20 PM »

Zone C

demi · « **Reply #81 on:** March 25, 2010, 02:02:41 PM »

Quote from: Kosma on March 25, 2010, 10:28:32 AM

@ everyone here who says MMO's arent games but loves some grinding in single player games

These games dont carry a negative stigma with them, and have an absolute finish. And are free

WoW pwnt

archie4208 · « **Reply #82 on:** March 25, 2010, 02:19:09 PM »

Nich Maragos

Penis demons for all!

iconoclast · « **Reply #83 on:** March 25, 2010, 02:23:01 PM »

Played a couple hours of this, it's great so far but I don't like this co-op attack system. I recruited a demon that has a different alignment than me and the rest of my team and he's essentially nothing but a weak meatshield. Is there any reason to use demons of different alignments? I guess you could have two teams of two in your party, but is that better than having four of the same? I'd think not, but what do I know - I'm only two hours in.

Beezy · « **Reply #84 on:** March 25, 2010, 02:25:14 PM »

Just started this. About to do the first battle. Only impressions I have so far is that the music is good.

archie4208 · « **Reply #85 on:** March 25, 2010, 02:25:39 PM »

Demon co op is a pretty massive downgrade from press turn. Honestly I just ignore it and focus on the most powerful demons regardless of alignment.

Bebpo · « **Reply #86 on:** March 25, 2010, 02:45:40 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on March 25, 2010, 02:25:39 PM

Demon co op is a pretty massive downgrade from press turn. Honestly I just ignore it and focus on the most powerful demons regardless of alignment.

Yeah.

Coop is good for the first half of the game because of the extra damage. But once you hit the moment and get into the real fights, it's better to just have the strongest demons with the best skills than worry about alignment. Every once and a while you'll still get lucky and it'll just happen that the strongest demons at the moment are all in your alignment and you'll be doing super damage, but don't depend on it in the 2nd half of the game.

Himu · « **Reply #87 on:** March 25, 2010, 03:00:59 PM »

Is co-op anywhere similar to the system used in Devil Survivor? Because it sounds like it.

archie4208 · « **Reply #88 on:** March 25, 2010, 03:08:01 PM »

No. Devil Survivor's system was closer to press turn. SJ's system works like this:

My character is law
I have 2 law demons and a chaos demon in my party
I hit an enemy that exploits a weakness
My two law demons do an extra attack and the chaos demon sits on his ass

Bebpo · « **Reply #89 on:** March 25, 2010, 03:52:55 PM »

fwiw I went neutral in this game. It's the hardest route but I couldn't really agree with either law or chaos philosophies.
If you go neutral expect one hell of a last boss set.

archie4208 · « **Reply #90 on:** March 25, 2010, 03:57:35 PM »

I'm going law because Jimenez is a dick.

magus · « **Reply #91 on:** March 25, 2010, 04:10:53 PM »

i like demon co-op,it forces particular setup,it helps you but it doesn't win you fight straight away,anyway i was thinking of going neutral too because 1) yay challenge! 2) i bet both sides turns out to be jerks as usual
anything exclusive to paths that is worth mentioning?
also archie did you make high pixie?

archie4208 · « **Reply #92 on:** March 25, 2010, 04:11:45 PM »

Nah. I used someone's password at Something Awful to get my High Pixie.

magus · « **Reply #93 on:** March 25, 2010, 04:13:51 PM »

don't you spend like a little fortune summoning a demon like that?
(tough now that i think about it... is it just me or money is ultra easy to find? i fought some special demon and they always drop an item i can sell for 3000$ that's an insane amount of money considering it barely takes any effort to take down those guys)

archie4208 · « **Reply #94 on:** March 25, 2010, 04:29:55 PM »

It was about 7000 to summon her and I had like 30k so I really didn't think twice about it.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #95 on:** March 25, 2010, 04:54:24 PM »

Anyone seen this at Best Buy? I've got some Reward Zone certificates I need to use...

Himu · « **Reply #96 on:** March 25, 2010, 04:55:44 PM »

Best buy should have it, as that's where I got devil survivor.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #97 on:** March 25, 2010, 04:56:39 PM »

Yeah, I bought Persona 3 FES from them, but SJ isn't showing up online.

magus · « **Reply #98 on:** March 25, 2010, 06:36:36 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on March 25, 2010, 04:29:55 PM

It was about 7000 to summon her and I had like 30k so I really didn't think twice about it.

yea i just did it the hard way and my compendium entry is around 6000 too,this system kinda makes me angry,i mean what stops me from using a password for a low level demon with high skills like megido? why bother hunting all the ingredient for the special fusion when you can just get them via password? heck why bother with special summoning at all when you can buy the thing directly?

it just seems like a cheap and not very well tought way to add a pointless comunity aspect to the game,kinda like that stupid mail system from ff3 remake

but anyway i finaly finished sector B,was the place ever labyrinthic! the boss went down without much trouble,cheap instant death spells aside,the thing that hurt him the most and that dealt the final blow?

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his own mabufudyne reflected by jack frost

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oh i forgot to ask,does agility still affect hit/dodge rate? i upped my agility to +3 with sukunda but still couldn't dodge shit (tough this would be a good thing)

archie4208 · « **Reply #99 on:** March 25, 2010, 08:04:45 PM »

Hey Bebpo I have a question:

I changed my mind and am going to try to go neutral. The only problem is that I am law right now. Can I answer a few questions with the chaos response and correct it so I can follow the neutral path at the endgame?

Bebpo · « **Reply #100 on:** March 25, 2010, 09:45:33 PM »

You change back and forth pretty easily. There are A LOT of questions later on and it gets hard to tell which answer goes to what. When I fell into neutral around halfway it wasn't even on purpose. I was doing a law playthrough but somehow I ended up in neutral ^^; I think I went back to law at some point for a few hours but then fell back to neutral and by that point I had decided story-wise I wanted neutral and just choose the answers that didn't agree with either side.

As for password summoning. The main downpoint is definitely the cost. I never used the password system for the simple fact that I saw how long the damn things were I was like fuck that I am too lazy to input codes that long into my DS! It wasn't too much of a problem, I was able to get everyone I wanted and fill most of my book.

archie4208 · « **Reply #101 on:** March 26, 2010, 12:38:03 PM »

I've already got 20 hours logged in this game. I don't know if that is good or bad. :I

magus · « **Reply #102 on:** March 26, 2010, 01:35:32 PM »

it's good it's good
i just finished sector C,it was bigger than what i expected after archie said it was small!
anyway
have you done the jack frost sidequest? the reward is awesome! i feel vindicated for all the time i got something stupid like a bunch of medicine in etrian odyssey

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you get a gun with 55 attack that can deal heavy wind or ice damage or alternatively medium lighting damage,you also get to fusion summon a super hero jack frost

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archie4208 · « **Reply #103 on:** March 26, 2010, 01:41:21 PM »

Nope. Where is he located?

Vizzys · « **Reply #104 on:** March 26, 2010, 01:45:04 PM »

does anyone know what that whole

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yggdrasil

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sidequest was all about

I was expecting a badass fight and got something for nothing really, does that mean Im due for a fight later in the game

magus · « **Reply #105 on:** March 26, 2010, 01:45:59 PM »

in sector C
Location

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remember the place where you found horkus first time? there was a dark tunnel a little before that,that dark tunnel looks like it has only one exit but in fact it has two,just hugs the wall and you'll find it

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as for the actual quest

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you need to bring him an ice vest,you get this by finding 3 drops from the uma that looks like a flying fox and 2 drops from the monster that looks like a foot with an angry face

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EDIT: wow i just found my first fiend,he kicked my ass much harder than any of the boss has ever done

Bebpo · « **Reply #106 on:** March 26, 2010, 08:03:50 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on March 26, 2010, 12:38:03 PM

I've already got 20 hours logged in this game. I don't know if that is good or bad. :I

Did you finish the 5th dungeon?

archie4208 · « **Reply #107 on:** March 26, 2010, 08:20:13 PM »

I just finished the 4th when I made that post. I'm in the middle of the 5th right now.

Himu · « **Reply #108 on:** March 26, 2010, 08:39:04 PM »

What are the dungeons like? Wizardry esque SMT or DDS dungeons SMT?

magus · « **Reply #109 on:** March 26, 2010, 08:45:50 PM »

they are identical to etrian odyssey so i guess wizardry?
anyway i'm soooooooo close to getting a black frost
i understand they want you to use the guy since he's the mascot and everything but geez excluding special summon the lowest demon i can make with a dyne spell is level 47 and the guy is level 30!

archie4208 · « **Reply #110 on:** March 26, 2010, 09:22:58 PM »

I just spent about 20 minutes trying to figure out how to make a King Frost and I finally figured out that I can't since I haven't done the Ace Frost quest yet.

magus · « **Reply #111 on:** March 26, 2010, 09:44:49 PM »

have you created doppleganger archie?

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first demon i found with reflect strike,very usefull! bosses and high level mobs end up doing up to 100 damage to themselves

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Bebpo · « **Reply #112 on:** March 26, 2010, 10:14:21 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on March 26, 2010, 09:22:58 PM

I just spent about 20 minutes trying to figure out how to make a King Frost and I finally figured out that I can't since I haven't done the Ace Frost quest yet.

Yeah, that's a good idea to do the quests to get king frost because he has a great heal spell. I used him as a main in my party until pretty far in.

magus · « **Reply #113 on:** March 27, 2010, 10:43:16 AM »

okay i can't find where the heck i'm supposed to go in sector D,on the 4th floor there are only dead ends and even after hugging every wall there was no secret passage of sort
help?

archie4208 · « **Reply #114 on:** March 27, 2010, 10:55:56 AM »

Have you got the Demonica add on that lets you

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see in the dark

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?

magus · « **Reply #115 on:** March 27, 2010, 11:44:19 AM »

i missed a secret passage

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on the third floor

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i got that add on just now
meanwhile i got an achievements for bumping into a wall 255 times,i feel special!

anyway what's the deal with the bomb status beside being the latest in cheap instant death designed to piss off the player technology by atlus?

EDIT: cleared stratum D,the boss went down like a rock

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frost shot + black frost + ace frost + other neutral ice demon = huge damage

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archie4208 · « **Reply #116 on:** March 27, 2010, 02:40:06 PM »

The 5th dungeon boss is fucking insane. I've given him half a dozen shots and I still haven't killed him.

Himu · « **Reply #117 on:** March 27, 2010, 02:42:13 PM »

How many dungeons are there

archie4208 · « **Reply #118 on:** March 27, 2010, 02:44:54 PM »

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8

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Edit: For reference, I'm at 26 hours played and I'm at the tail end of the 5th dungeon. I have only consulted an online map once so I have spent alot of time just being lost and trying to figure things out. (Warp panels :'()

Vizzys · « **Reply #119 on:** March 27, 2010, 02:45:06 PM »

im guessing 6

edit: ok im wrong ^^

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