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Title: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2010, 04:18:32 AM
Thread over at gaf now.  PR from Nintendo about their new handheld due to release in March, 2011.
 
3D is the future?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Ichirou on March 23, 2010, 04:19:33 AM
How about you post the link to the thread bro.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 23, 2010, 04:20:23 AM
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2010/100323.pdf
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: ToxicAdam on March 23, 2010, 04:21:40 AM
Kind of sucks, I just joined the DS party and was hoping for a few more years of AAA releases.



Anyone else think 3D is just a way to curb piracy?

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2010, 04:22:19 AM
PR doesn't say much at all besides 3D WITH YOUR BARE EYES.  New system in DS series.  March, 2011.  Will show at E3.

I wonder if this is like that tech demo that was 3d on the DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 23, 2010, 04:24:12 AM
Also says it will be backwards-compatible with existing DS software, no shock there. Virtual Boy ahoy eh.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Rman on March 23, 2010, 04:24:35 AM
Finally, Nintendo is looking to use at least a contemporary graphics solution if the Tegra rumors are to be believed.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2010, 04:25:46 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5QSclrIdlE[/youtube]

Wonder if it will be like this?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 23, 2010, 04:27:22 AM
3D handheld?

Nintendo :bow :bow

Oh and release is before March 2011...

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 23, 2010, 04:31:00 AM
Maybe it'll use an ARM that has a megahertz in the triple digits
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: treythemovie on March 23, 2010, 04:33:31 AM
More grudge-fucking against Sony it seems. And they were so excited about the future of 3D on the PS3 too.


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Last announcement I ever expected from Nintendo
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Rman on March 23, 2010, 04:34:23 AM
Maybe it'll use an ARM that has a megahertz in the triple digits
Tegra already does.  If the rumors pan out it will.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Bildi on March 23, 2010, 04:36:58 AM
I suppose unlike with TV, the position of the viewer of a handheld is generally at 90 degrees, hence 3D without glasses is a more realistic endeavor.  That's a pretty clever idea.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Rman on March 23, 2010, 04:38:55 AM
It will be hilarious if this is more powerful than the Wii.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: iconoclast on March 23, 2010, 04:40:07 AM
Well that is interesting. Might be awesome if they can do it properly. Wonder what the launch games will be... a new iNiS game would be a day 1 buy for me, no questions.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2010, 04:41:34 AM
i wonder if this will push the PSP2 out given it's rumoured to have been nailed down hardware for an AGE now?


Nah.  Sony needs another 6 months to quickly assemble the rushed 3D mode now :P
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: treythemovie on March 23, 2010, 04:44:00 AM
Well that is interesting. Might be awesome if they can do it properly. Wonder what the launch games will be... a new iNiS game would be a day 1 buy for me, no questions.
I'd be shocked if the main launch title wasn't that Pokemon game they vaguely announced. Doesn't mean much to The Bore but it probably guarantees this system will sell out completely.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 23, 2010, 04:44:21 AM
Maybe sony will make an overlay for the PSP screen, you know, like the bumpy horizontal material that makes 3D pictures of Jesus
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: iconoclast on March 23, 2010, 04:46:51 AM
Well that is interesting. Might be awesome if they can do it properly. Wonder what the launch games will be... a new iNiS game would be a day 1 buy for me, no questions.
I'd be shocked if the main launch title wasn't that Pokemon game they vaguely announced. Doesn't mean much to The Bore but it probably guarantees this system will sell out completely.


Oooooh, completely forgot they kinda announced the 5th gen of Pokemon. Yeah, a new mainline Pokemon RPG would also be a day 1 buy for me.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 23, 2010, 04:47:21 AM
Kind of sucks, I just joined the DS party and was hoping for a few more years of AAA releases.



Anyone else think 3D is just a way to curb piracy?



DSi was supposed to be a way to curb piracy... lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 23, 2010, 04:48:06 AM
Fully backwards compatible with DS games

 :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: OptimoPeach on March 23, 2010, 04:51:50 AM
Yay, they're opting for the most gimmicky gimmick of all gimmicks
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 23, 2010, 04:53:19 AM
i hope the new ds will have a better web browser than the psp's which i'm using right now. anyways didn't mgs acid 2 already have 3d?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Rman on March 23, 2010, 04:55:28 AM
Yay, they're opting for the most gimmicky gimmick of all gimmicks
It's Nintendo. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 23, 2010, 05:00:10 AM
is it 4d if you walk while playing?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: The Innocent X on March 23, 2010, 05:36:44 AM
I have a feeling it's going to be that fake 3d like in that video.

That would be somewhat disappointing, but expected given tyhe cost of true 3 screens.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Bildi on March 23, 2010, 06:01:31 AM
I dunno, I think Nintendo would hopefully realise that rolling out that fake 3D when everyone knows what 3D is (Avatar) would be a massive marketing mistake.

For real 3D wouldn't they just need a fancy prism-y screen overlay?  I would think a narrow "viewing sweet spot" isn't too much of a problem for a DS (unlike with TVs).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 23, 2010, 06:13:16 AM
3D TV,glasses,etc...all that is fake...more like some controlled hallucination

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 23, 2010, 06:27:15 AM
 :bow me holding out all these years with my DSphat :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on March 23, 2010, 06:30:23 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Bildi on March 23, 2010, 07:36:32 AM
"Dude 3DS has 3D, PSP2 has what?".

3 > 2.

Nintendo has the next gen wrapped up.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 23, 2010, 07:39:11 AM
Nintendo gimmicks/fads sell... :smug

Kids will be all over this..."wow this is so cool"

I wonder if Sony knew about this,they have been constantly mumbling something about 3D.
And then comes Nintendo with "all in one solution" and leapfrogs them...Nintendo is a nasty player :lol

The good thing is that 3DS should have some decent modern tech inside...3D requirements and all that,but this is Nintendo so who knows

PSP2 now needs either

1)3D....people will say meh,3DS copycat
2)phone....people will say meh,iphone copycat

Sony simply can't win.

Oh yes and 3>2...you can't dispute that...thx Bildi
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 23, 2010, 08:39:58 AM
:rofl

Well I think it could be very cool but I really want some specs. I've also seen this tech demoed at Siggraph so I'm a bit familiar with what they're going for. Honestly, Nintendo are impressively shrewd for riding on the hottest gimmick/fad at the moment to curtail any possible momentum from Sony and others.

Something like this?

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1597252/hitachi-3d-mobile-tips (http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1597252/hitachi-3d-mobile-tips)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: archie4208 on March 23, 2010, 09:06:39 AM
That certainly came out of nowhere.  As long as it has good games then I'm interested!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 23, 2010, 10:13:55 AM
A week ago some dev on Beyond3D forum said this

Quote
Nope, no Tegra, and yes, E3 reveal, that's what my little birdie says... the GPU will surprise a lot of people.

Hmm...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 23, 2010, 10:43:33 AM
Will hold out for Nintendo 3DSi MAX


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:bow the iMax experience :bow2
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: originalz on March 23, 2010, 10:50:26 AM
I just love how this came out of no where  :lol

Yeah, it's really bizarre that it was announced in such a dull press release of all things.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: magus on March 23, 2010, 11:29:08 AM
isn't this thing like the DSi only it features this 3D thingamajig instead of a camera?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: archie4208 on March 23, 2010, 11:34:59 AM
I wonder if the new Pokemon game is 3DS exclusive.  That would be a huge killer app for the system.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: archie4208 on March 23, 2010, 11:47:35 AM
I also have to wonder about the price.  Nintendo has slowly been nudging the DS price upwards for the past several years.  The DS Lite was $130, the DSi was $160 and the DSi XL is $190.  I could see Nintendo going for another third pillar strategy and pricing the 3DS at ~250 and promoting it as a high end item while not totally crippling the momentum of the old DS in America and Europe.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: treythemovie on March 23, 2010, 11:52:21 AM
isn't this thing like the DSi only it features this 3D thingamajig instead of a camera?

Nah, the PR makes it obvious that this is the DS2. The key term being "succeed "Nintendo DS series" whereas the DSi's PR merely called it the "third iteration".

And of course, the rumor/near-fact that it'll have Gamecube graphics makes that obvious too.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 23, 2010, 11:53:30 AM
A week ago some dev on Beyond3D forum said this

Quote
Nope, no Tegra, and yes, E3 reveal, that's what my little birdie says... the GPU will surprise a lot of people.

Hmm...

It was an obvious no-brainer an E3 reveal is planned. Even people without close sources knew that.

Also, Nintendo is being incredibly cagey about their specs so I sincerely doubt some random guy on Beyond3D would know or even know someone who does. Ignore him.

Actually he has been there for years and he is always serious...but it doesn't matter,we shall see at E3 what Nintendo has...
Maybe even sooner if someone leaks everything.



After this 3DS stuff,I'm like 99% sure that Tegra is out.
Nintendo will just hack something together,as cheap as possible...price it $200-250...maximum profit



Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MCD on March 23, 2010, 11:56:12 AM
http://kotaku.com/5499823/nintendo-3ds-could-borrow-3d-trick-from-iphone

maybe something like this, i can already see some benefit to this for games like hotel dusk and phoenix wright.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on March 23, 2010, 12:02:05 PM
It prints 3D money?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 23, 2010, 12:34:50 PM
wow, badass.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 23, 2010, 12:35:32 PM
Rumors have already started :lol


Quote
- analog stick
- vibration pack
- tilt sensor under decision
- wireless connection speed up
- battery life up
- smaller than 4" screen
http://www.nikkei.com/tech/news/article/g=96958A9C93819696E0E1E2909E8DE0E1E2E1E0E2E3E2E2E2E2E2E2E2 (http://www.nikkei.com/tech/news/article/g=96958A9C93819696E0E1E2909E8DE0E1E2E1E0E2E3E2E2E2E2E2E2E2)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 23, 2010, 12:42:14 PM
Rumors have already started :lol


Quote
- analog stick
- vibration pack
- tilt sensor under decision
- wireless connection speed up
- battery life up
- smaller than 4" screen
http://www.nikkei.com/tech/news/article/g=96958A9C93819696E0E1E2909E8DE0E1E2E1E0E2E3E2E2E2E2E2E2E2 (http://www.nikkei.com/tech/news/article/g=96958A9C93819696E0E1E2909E8DE0E1E2E1E0E2E3E2E2E2E2E2E2E2)



I wouldn't really call those rumors.  Nikkei has gotten pretty much everything right about Nintendo's last three hardware (handheld and console) announcements.  They're incredibly reliable.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 23, 2010, 12:46:56 PM
Yeah,i know.But Nintendo stamp of approval is needed to make it official.
 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MCD on March 23, 2010, 12:53:08 PM
Smaller then 4" screen though...

Quote from: Dragona Akehi
The original DS has two three inch screens. "Under four inches" isn't a downgrade here, it's likely there are two three-four inch screens that are mapped together for a seamless picture, if davidrath is to be believed.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Third on March 23, 2010, 01:13:04 PM
And suddenly all the nfags across the world don't think that 3D is a gimmick anymore.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 23, 2010, 02:24:13 PM
And suddenly all the nfags across the world don't think that 3D is a gimmick anymore.

What sane nfag (oxymoron hurdur) ever thought that?  Are you referencing Natal or something else?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: treythemovie on March 23, 2010, 02:25:05 PM
I wonder what NoA/NoE must be thinking. This announcement undermines the US' DSi XL launch and kills momentum for the recent European launch.
Nintendo is marketing the DSi XL to old people. The kind who probably didn't even know what 3D was until the talk shows started talking about Avatar's oscar nomination

I wouldn't really call those rumors.  Nikkei has gotten pretty much everything right about Nintendo's last three hardware (handheld and console) announcements.  They're incredibly reliable.
ie nintendo purposely leaks stuff to them for the free publicity.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: cool breeze on March 23, 2010, 02:28:13 PM
gg no re Sony

long live the new Nintendo that uses current tech
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 23, 2010, 02:32:50 PM
And suddenly all the nfags across the world don't think that 3D is a gimmick anymore.

This nfag still doesn't care.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: ManaByte on March 23, 2010, 02:47:59 PM
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/03/500x_virtual.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 23, 2010, 03:11:26 PM
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/03/500x_virtual.jpg)

.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2010, 04:26:24 PM
:lol

I'll stick with pc thanks.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 23, 2010, 04:34:38 PM
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/03/500x_virtual.jpg)

These things go for a LOT on eBay these days. Even a replacement battery pack can go up to $30

By this comparison, we should all be running out and buying these
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 23, 2010, 04:35:37 PM
Virtual Boy + pr0n= gold mine

How come no company has come out with such a device yet? 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 23, 2010, 04:36:06 PM
:lol

I'll stick with pc thanks.

you are just the cat's meow all of a sudden, aren't you
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2010, 04:40:48 PM
:lol

I'll stick with pc thanks.

you are just the cat's meow all of a sudden, aren't you

Huh? All of a sudden? Why do think I now relegate myself to owning only one console and just a gaming pc? It's me slowly phasing myself out as a gamer. This is my last gen.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MCD on March 23, 2010, 04:45:56 PM
This is my last gen.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: M3wThr33 on March 23, 2010, 04:50:16 PM
Still on my launch-day DS. I have no need or desire to upgrade. Especially until Nintendo actually unveils a fucking migration plan. DSi games that YOU BOUGHT can't be played on DSi XL. You can't migrate to new handhelds or consoles with Nintendo.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: drew on March 23, 2010, 05:01:26 PM
people need to stop thinking of themselves as "gamers", because then you end up with shit like this, i didnt touch a controller from 2000-2005, it happened naturally, ugh
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2010, 05:06:07 PM
:lol

I'll stick with pc thanks.

you are just the cat's meow all of a sudden, aren't you

Huh? All of a sudden? Why do think I now relegate myself to owning only one console and just a gaming pc? It's me slowly phasing myself out as a gamer. This is my last gen.
Yeah sure we believe that.

It's impossible for anyone to stop playing games, that much is true. But buying all of the systems thats available? Paying full price (60 dollars!) on games? Those days are over.

It's not like this is the first time I have gone over this on these boards or on gaf, either. I have been documented saying this same thing for the past year. TEXP can vouch for me, he seems to have the same train of thought.

You guys can continue to spend 200-400 on each system (that's three systems a pop, totaling on average 1000 for all three systems, and this isn't including the portable systems) and spend 60 (or more) on software, but I'm done with that shit.

Too much of a time sink, costs too much money, little reward.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on March 23, 2010, 05:06:17 PM
Yeah I stopped living in that mentality right after I said I quit gaming. You don't need to be a "gamer" to enjoy video games. Jeebus. It isn't a niche of society anymore.

EDIT: Who the fuck buys all games/consoles on launch day? Maybe once or twice a year I pay full price for a game, but otherwise I wait for that shit to drop below at least $40 before I even think of buying it. And consoles? I learned from early this generation to never, EVER, go for the launch.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 23, 2010, 05:09:41 PM
:lol Himuro stopping gaming cause he has no job. Ok, gotcha.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2010, 05:10:09 PM
It's impossible to stop being a gamer. You can be a gamer by just playing solitaire on Windows. But there's a difference between that and making gaming an actual hobby.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2010, 05:10:29 PM
:lol Himuro stopping gaming cause he has no job. Ok, gotcha.

Not really.  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 23, 2010, 05:11:33 PM
WOW $1000 A YEAR IM BROKE MAN
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2010, 05:14:06 PM
Who the fuck would stop playing games?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: bork on March 23, 2010, 05:14:32 PM
And consoles? I learned from early this generation to never, EVER, go for the launch.

Depends on the maker, it seems.  With Microsoft, yeah...launch systems =  :lol :lol :lol :lol :'( :'( :'( :-\ :maf.  The Wii I got has been fine.  While I'm glad I got a launch model 20GB PS3 for the backwards-compatibility feature, I'm also unable to use ad-hoc party for PSP, something I would have enjoyed using.  I think I can't do remote play either.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: M3wThr33 on March 23, 2010, 05:15:35 PM
You can do remote play over Wifi on your router. It works.

Yeah I stopped living in that mentality right after I said I quit gaming. You don't need to be a "gamer" to enjoy video games. Jeebus. It isn't a niche of society anymore.

EDIT: Who the fuck buys all games/consoles on launch day? Maybe once or twice a year I pay full price for a game, but otherwise I wait for that shit to drop below at least $40 before I even think of buying it. And consoles? I learned from early this generation to never, EVER, go for the launch.

Obviously I never bought a handheld again on launch day. Too broke to afford launch-day stuff now.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on March 23, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
And consoles? I learned from early this generation to never, EVER, go for the launch.

Depends on the maker, it seems.  With Microsoft, yeah...launch systems =  :lol :lol :lol :lol :'( :'( :'( :-\ :maf.  The Wii I got has been fine.  While I'm glad I got a launch model 20GB PS3 for the backwards-compatibility feature, I'm also unable to use ad-hoc party for PSP, something I would have enjoyed using.  I think I can't do remote play either.

The way I see this gen is goes like this:

Wii was too expensive at launch, had you waited you would've paid the proper Nintendo console price.
Xbox 360 was :lol
PS3 was $600 until a year and then the 60GB dropped down to $500 (slightly more reasonable but still insane)

I used to exclude handhelds from this rule but the PSP made me add them in. And I'm never buying a launch Nintendo handheld ever again. They're basically the Apple of video game consoles. Throw out a piece of shit so people pay to beta test, release the real hardware later.

Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: bork on March 23, 2010, 05:24:28 PM
The original DS was the only Nintendo handheld I regretted buying.  I didn't own it for very long and traded it towards a then-just-released-in-Japan-only PSP, which was selling for insanely high prices at the time.  It was worth the trade and the cash spent to get the PSP.  Yeah the GBA didn't have a back or frontlight, but I didn't feel burned by it or anything.  It's not that I thought the DS hardware, bulky and clunky as it was, was crappy either, just underwhelming and the launch software was pretty blah.

Didn't buy a PSP Go, but had I purchased one I'd probably be feeling that burn hard right now.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on March 23, 2010, 05:30:39 PM
I think the GBA is one of the best handhelds ever, the lack of backlighting sucks, though.

I always want to get a PSP but every hardware revision gets worse and worse. The first gen was the closest to the best but the weak backlight, the malfunctioning square button and the kind of weak battery is a pain. With the 2000 and 3000 I just hate portable devices coated in shiny plastic because they get fucking NASTY over time. I'd get a Go but it's about $100 too expensive. Maybe the PSPGo-2000 will be better.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: bork on March 23, 2010, 05:37:14 PM
I think the GBA is one of the best handhelds ever, the lack of backlighting sucks, though.

I always want to get a PSP but every hardware revision gets worse and worse. The first gen was the closest to the best but the weak backlight, the malfunctioning square button and the kind of weak battery is a pain. With the 2000 and 3000 I just hate portable devices coated in shiny plastic because they get fucking NASTY over time. I'd get a Go but it's about $100 too expensive. Maybe the PSPGo-2000 will be better.

I've had a white 2000 since launch.  September 2007, IIRC.  It still looks the same as it does the day I got it.   There's no real advantage to getting a Go over the other PSP versions.  Apparently you can't even make use of memory sticks as easily in the Go as you can with the other PSPs.

Hacked PSPs are the way to go.  333mhz, memory stick loading, compressed ISOs, and some sweet emulators.  CPS2 and Neo-Geo on the go all day long.  :hyper
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on March 23, 2010, 05:38:58 PM
Is it easy to hack PSP-3000s?

I haven't done that since the launch PSP.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 23, 2010, 05:39:58 PM
Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.
Everyone I know who got a lite had to replace it. Broken hinge, touchscreen stopped working, either screen stopped displaying the picture, L or R button fucked up, etc... I don't think there has been a weaker Nintendo handheld/console.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on March 23, 2010, 05:41:34 PM
Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.
Everyone I know who got a lite had to replace it. Broken hinge, touchscreen stopped working, either screen stopped displaying the picture, L or R button fucked up, etc... I don't think there has been a weaker Nintendo handheld/console.

I thankfully never had those problems, but I do remember the hinge/shoulder buttons were an issue for some folks.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2010, 05:43:28 PM
Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.
Everyone I know who got a lite had to replace it. Broken hinge, touchscreen stopped working, either screen stopped displaying the picture, L or R button fucked up, etc... I don't think there has been a weaker Nintendo handheld/console.

Haven't had that problem.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 23, 2010, 05:56:32 PM
quiet pcfag :wag
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2010, 06:03:52 PM
lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 23, 2010, 06:08:50 PM
Hacked PSPs are the way to go.  333mhz, memory stick loading, compressed ISOs, and some sweet emulators.  CPS2 and Neo-Geo on the go all day long.  :hyper

Who you fooling?  You hacked it for the same reason everyone else did.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 23, 2010, 06:10:16 PM
i didn't hack mine for piracy. i hacked it because i fuckin' hate load times. i have bought every psp game i own

:bow rich motherfuckers :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 23, 2010, 06:14:50 PM
I've also bought every PSP game that I own.

But I don't own that many.  Usually I just borrow.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 23, 2010, 07:07:48 PM
I bought every psp game I own as well.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 23, 2010, 07:11:56 PM
Ok guys, I can do this too



I bought every PSP game I own








And downloaded the rest
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 23, 2010, 07:20:16 PM
Ok guys, I can do this too



I bought every PSP game I own








And downloaded the rest

:lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 23, 2010, 07:30:44 PM
And downloaded the rest

That's what I meant by "borrow". 

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: pilonv1 on March 23, 2010, 07:39:49 PM
:lol @ thinking this will have "current" tech. Name the last Nintendo system to have "current" tech.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: bork on March 23, 2010, 07:40:56 PM
Hacked PSPs are the way to go.  333mhz, memory stick loading, compressed ISOs, and some sweet emulators.  CPS2 and Neo-Geo on the go all day long.  :hyper

Who you fooling?  You hacked it for the same reason everyone else did.



I hacked it for the reasons above.  It was the Neo-Geo and CPS emulators specifically that led to me even buying a 2000 in the first place.  Downloading games is nice for trying out stuff, sure.  I'm not denying I don't do it.  But I buy my games and rip them:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2795/4457818679_55b7f822fe.jpg)

DS is another story.   :P

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 23, 2010, 07:47:08 PM
Lyte, I was just messing around.  If you love the platform, you should support it. 

I really don't care if the PSP dies so I have no qualms about downloading its games.  The sad thing is that there's no PSP game that I want to play even if it's free.  God of War and MGS:Portable OPs are the only two games that I've played for more than 30 mins and I paid for both of them.  Basically, my PSP is just used for web browsing in the toilet or bed. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on March 23, 2010, 08:13:23 PM
Lyte how can you play CPS fighting games with the PSP's horrid d-pad?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 23, 2010, 08:27:11 PM
the psp's d-pad has been aces since the 2000, rip van winkle
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: bork on March 23, 2010, 08:38:13 PM
Lyte, I was just messing around.  If you love the platform, you should support it. 

Right...that's why I buy PSP games and got an Acekard for my DS.   :P  I did buy the Miles Edgeworth DS game last month.  First DS game I've purchased since 2008!

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I really don't care if the PSP dies so I have no qualms about downloading its games.  The sad thing is that there's no PSP game that I want to play even if it's free.  God of War and MGS:Portable OPs are the only two games that I've played for more than 30 mins and I paid for both of them.  Basically, my PSP is just used for web browsing in the toilet or bed. 

I just like having a number of console and arcade ports on the go.  That's what I spend the majority of my time playing on PSP.

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Lyte how can you play CPS fighting games with the PSP's horrid d-pad?
the psp's d-pad has been aces since the 2000, rip van winkle

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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: cool breeze on March 23, 2010, 08:48:23 PM
:lol @ thinking this will have "current" tech. Name the last Nintendo system to have "current" tech.

Gamecube or GBA (don't remember what came out first).  It wasn't until the DS that Nintendo was a ways behind with their tech, then the Wii followed that up with five year old hardware.  I mean, you always had people saying they did it because they failed so hard with the Gamecube that they had to resort to other ways of gaining appealing than just more powerful hardware.  Hopefully it means that they're in a position now that they can have their gimmicky stuff along with current tech.  People claim it's around Gamecube level of power and that sounds better than the current standard set by iphone, zune hd, and PSP.

I'm all for this Nintendo 3DS thing if even half of what they claim is true.  The only thing I'm skeptical about is when they say Gamecube level, this is before they factor the 3D stuff they'd need to do.  On PC and PS3 games usually take a noticeable hit when running in 3D.  I think the average for PC is 40% decrease in performance and for Wipeout HD in 3D, you can tell it isn't as smooth and the resolution has been dropped a bit.

the psp's d-pad has been aces since the 2000, rip van winkle

PSP 2000 is the best d-pad Sony has ever made
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Ichirou on March 23, 2010, 08:56:02 PM
Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.
Everyone I know who got a lite had to replace it. Broken hinge, touchscreen stopped working, either screen stopped displaying the picture, L or R button fucked up, etc... I don't think there has been a weaker Nintendo handheld/console.

My Lite's touchscreen broke, hinge broke, one of the buttons lost its 'clickyness' (dunno what other word to use)...

I ended up buying another one. :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: magus on March 23, 2010, 09:11:04 PM
Not that the DS fat is terrible, but the Lite is a marked improvement.
Everyone I know who got a lite had to replace it. Broken hinge, touchscreen stopped working, either screen stopped displaying the picture, L or R button fucked up, etc... I don't think there has been a weaker Nintendo handheld/console.

My Lite's touchscreen broke, hinge broke, one of the buttons lost its 'clickyness' (dunno what other word to use)...

I ended up buying another one. :(

the center of my phat touchscreen is somewhat fucked up,i didn't repair it because 1) it's not completly broken 2) the number of games that make use of the touchscreen has dwindled to single digits 3) i'm poor
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Ichirou on March 23, 2010, 09:17:37 PM
Maybe you can send it in to Nintendo and have them fix it for you for cheap.

Tell them how poor you are.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MCD on March 23, 2010, 09:53:21 PM
tell them this is your last gen too.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Bebpo on March 23, 2010, 11:05:19 PM
I just wanted to post that Himuro's abandoning of gaming one games/genre/system at a time is depressing. 

Soon Himuro will only play games on real life.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: originalz on March 23, 2010, 11:08:35 PM
Even the DS wasn't exactly behind tech-wise, it followed the logical pattern of having N64-comparable specs, just as the GBA was SNES-comparable.  It's only that the PSP started from a much higher point to begin with.  Makes sense for the 3DS to go Gamecube level, not that it would be remarkable, the Wiz is already on that level.  I'm just hoping for OLED!  Wireless N would also be boss.

The hinge thing on my lite cracked, seemed like an unavoidable issue for launch systems.  Never seemed to affect anything though, not like my system fell apart afterwards, shit worked fine up until the day I got a DSi and retired it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 12:12:39 AM
Smh, how many DS owners on this board have only had ONE DS?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 24, 2010, 12:24:02 AM
Smh, how many DS owners on this board have only had ONE DS?

*raises hand*
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 24, 2010, 12:24:44 AM
:drudge Actual post about the 3DS :drudge

Doesn't this go against Nintendo's whole newb-friendly vibe? I assume stylus control is out now, and a stick seems to be a return to the sort of complex controls that would risk alienating the grannies. Although I'm intrigued, and admire their continued attempts at innovation - a simple h/w upgrade would have been pointless.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Bebpo on March 24, 2010, 12:32:06 AM
Stylus is not out.  Fully compatible with DS/DSi games.

Plus that DSiware game that is 3d uses touch controls :P
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Bebpo on March 24, 2010, 12:33:08 AM
Smh, how many DS owners on this board have only had ONE DS?

You only have a phat?  Man, the phat was so shitty.  I barely ever played my DS and it was all about PSP until the Lite came out.

I didn't get a DSi though because there was zero point.  Especially now!  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: cool breeze on March 24, 2010, 12:33:40 AM
I don't see why.  The popular DS game like Mario Kart and NSMB use traditional controls, and even the Wii versions of those are popular.  If you're talking about Brain Age and things like that, I don't see why it would be a problem.  Most 3D monitors can be used as regular 2D stuff for reading or w/e.  I don't think they would be getting rid of the touch screen either, especially not after it has almost become a standard on handheld devices because of the iphone.   The stick (could be a new type of analog stick, btw) is probably just there because if it is Gamecube level graphics, they'd need a better control method if they wanted games like Mario Galaxy on it.

and what bebpo said in less words

I bought a DSi and haven't really used it much since I did.  Only big game I played on it was Spirit Tracks ( :yuck) and Mario and Luigi 3 ( :yuck).  Other than the better controls, it wasn't a worthwhile upgrade (compared to the lite).  I feel the same way about getting a PSP-3000 when I had a PSP-2000.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 24, 2010, 12:52:56 AM
Stylus is not out.  Fully compatible with DS/DSi games.

Plus that DSiware game that is 3d uses touch controls :P

For the old stuff, sure. Like they still have a D-pad so people can play GBA on their DS. But is it going to work as a controller for the new 3D stuff? Is the 3D only going to be on the top screen or what?

This would have been far more fun if they'd just leaked some rumors so at least we could speculate a bit more wildly. The bloody press release is as dry as toast.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Bebpo on March 24, 2010, 12:55:35 AM
I bought a DSi and haven't really used it much since I did.  Only big game I played on it was Spirit Tracks ( :yuck) and Mario and Luigi 3 ( :yuck).  Other than the better controls, it wasn't a worthwhile upgrade (compared to the lite).  I feel the same way about getting a PSP-3000 when I had a PSP-2000.

I ended up sticking with my PSP-1000.  Played through BBS, Classic Dungeon, and Zettai Hero so far this year and all were perfectly fine (well one small area has some color bleeding in BBS), so meh I will stay with my 1000 until PSP2. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 24, 2010, 05:17:00 AM
Imagine if Capcom puts Monster Hunter on this...
Monster Hunter 3D


Btw,Sony has responded,same old stuff...
Quote
Koller, who is director of hardware and marketing at SCEA, went on to question whether Nintendo is on the right track.

"I think it remains to be seen where Nintendo goes with 3D on a portable," he said.

"Having been in the portable space for quite awhile, I think it's an interesting move but one I'd like to see where they go from a demographic standpoint. 8 and 9 year-olds playing 3D is a little bit of a stretch given where some of our research is right now."

 :miyamoto
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 05:51:29 AM
Smh, how many DS owners on this board have only had ONE DS?

You only have a phat?  Man, the phat was so shitty.  I barely ever played my DS and it was all about PSP until the Lite came out.

I didn't get a DSi though because there was zero point.  Especially now!  :lol
I didn't see any reason to upgrade. Portability and weak backlight isn't an issue since I only play it at home anyway. I did want a lite when it first came out, then I heard about its problems. And the DSi just isn't worth it at that price imo.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: brawndolicious on March 24, 2010, 05:59:36 AM
It seems like this tech might be really cool for like 3D games being played on a 2D plane (like NSMB or maybe even Metroid :o).

Of course they could cheap out on the tech and throw a bunch of gimmicky demos on it and crush my dreams.

I don't know if anybody pointed out the elephant in the room but it seems like any game that is designed for the 3DS won't really be easy to port.  I wonder how all those third-party Wii publishers that made a genuine effort feel about this....
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: originalz on March 24, 2010, 06:19:19 AM
Eh, no different from the situation now.  Very few DS/PSP port games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: SantaC on March 24, 2010, 07:14:46 AM
but will there be texture filtering? Or will my eyes bleed again.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 10:20:36 AM
Sony is really fucked in the handheld market now. It's funny and all but I wish damn Nintendo had some serious competition.

The funny thing is that psp is 1000 x the portable overrated ds is.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: chronovore on March 24, 2010, 10:30:52 AM
Also says it will be backwards-compatible with existing DS software, no shock there. Virtual Boy ahoy eh.

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/03/500x_virtual.jpg)

Yeah, when I heard it would be optical 3D I immediately went there, too. Yikes.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 10:56:08 AM
Honestly though, for the past year or so both handheld lineups have been disappointing. It's so obvious both are on their last legs.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 24, 2010, 11:22:30 AM
It cant be that good, if even you dont have one
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 11:33:38 AM
Honestly though, for the past year or so both handheld lineups have been disappointing. It's so obvious both are on their last legs.

Sorry but :rofl

If that was true DS wouldn't be the best selling handheld device EVER.

It would not sell 30M units in Japan ALONE.

Do you even have a psp or ds?  ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: archie4208 on March 24, 2010, 11:36:29 AM
The DS is pretty overrated outside of the SMT games and Picross/3D Picross.  Most of the mainline Nintendo games shoehorn touchscreen and mic gimmicks that are incredibly annoying.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 24, 2010, 11:38:57 AM
I had a shitload of ds games before I traded it in, none of them jrpgs.  So you're all wrong! 
...
I really hope the release Advance Wars on the Wii at some point  :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 24, 2010, 11:39:26 AM
Honestly though, for the past year or so both handheld lineups have been disappointing. It's so obvious both are on their last legs.

Sorry but :rofl

If that was true DS wouldn't be the best selling handheld device EVER.

It would not sell 30M units in Japan ALONE.

Do you even have a psp or ds?  ???

I finished over 20 DS games.

Oh, I get it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: cool breeze on March 24, 2010, 11:44:31 AM
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It's funny and all but I wish damn Nintendo had some serious competition.

Xboy with Halo 1 CE remake/port with hybrid Halo 1/2 wireless adhoc and online play please, with bots added for single play romps.

Give me Blood Gulch in my hands.

I was thinking about the only thing Sony could do that would make the PSP2 or other handheld worth it is to have anywhere online play, but I don't see that being possible with current tech.  You'd need Wi-fi and that makes the entire thing flawed.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 11:47:05 AM
The DS is pretty overrated outside of the SMT games and Picross/3D Picross.  Most of the mainline Nintendo games shoehorn touchscreen and mic gimmicks that are incredibly annoying.

There are some other good games, though. Kirby's Canvas Curse is the best Nintendo game on the system.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 11:55:51 AM
Uh, gba2? DS not overrated?

How about you offer an argument that's not related to sales or I'll bring up Avatar as a barometer for quality, as that is essentially your argument.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: archie4208 on March 24, 2010, 12:05:11 PM
The DS is pretty overrated outside of the SMT games and Picross/3D Picross.  Most of the mainline Nintendo games shoehorn touchscreen and mic gimmicks that are incredibly annoying.

There are some other good games, though. Kirby's Canvas Curse is the best Nintendo game on the system.

I loved KCC.  It seems Nintendo's games shine when they revolve an entire game around the touchscreen (KCC, 3D Picross) or when they don't bother with the touchscreen at all (NSMB).  It is the middle ground that fucks over their games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 12:09:44 PM
- FF remakes in 3D
- GBA-quality or better Metroidvanias
- Mario & Luigi games
- Mario Kart DS
- quirky games like Hotel Dusk

enough?
That's a sad attempt at a list...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: archie4208 on March 24, 2010, 12:13:12 PM
- FF remakes in 3D
- GBA-quality or better Metroidvanias
- Mario & Luigi games
- Mario Kart DS
- quirky games like Hotel Dusk

enough?

*FF remakes are garbage.  Hideos 3D and load times out of the ass make them a giant slog.
*Dawn of Sorrow is the only decent DS Metroidvania, and it still isn't as good as Aria.
*Both M&L DS games are inferior to Paper Mario 2.
*Mario Kart is pretty good.
*Hotel Dusk is fucking trash.  I bought into the hype because EGM gave it a 10 and I got burnt.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 12:17:37 PM
- FF remakes in 3D
- GBA-quality or better Metroidvanias
- Mario & Luigi games
- Mario Kart DS
- quirky games like Hotel Dusk

enough?

You have to be kidding me. That list does not argue that ds isn't overrated. Also, don't get us (or me, rather) wrong. Overrated does not mean bad; ds is a good system, but not as good as forum denizens and the media would like to think it is. I can't even believe you've listed Hotel Dusk.

Archie, FF4 remake is fantastic, though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: tiesto on March 24, 2010, 12:58:49 PM
I expected more 2D goodness, less buttugly 3D :P
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: SantaC on March 24, 2010, 01:04:52 PM
the 2D games are the best part of the DS. Damn the 3D zeldas sure are ugly
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 01:09:22 PM
Well I liked dem games *shrugs* I mean what you people expected from DS? Western games?

Better games suited to portable play? This is why psp is superior. It has games that actively take advantage of being portable.

Rpgs are not the best games for portability.

Maybe if ds had a bigger number of action games, or platformers or pick up and play games? Maybe if all the rpgs that hit the system were better? I dunno, but ds is an overrated system, the people acting like just because the system gets a lot of games it's on par with the ps2 are jackasses. ds is NOT ps2.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: magus on March 24, 2010, 01:19:21 PM
i'm confused in this thread we have himuro complaining about the lack of quality releases on the ds and on two other threads we have himuro going about wanting to play infinite space and strange journey

is this another one of those threads that ends with a
"LOLZ I WAS TROLLING YOU GUYS ARE JUST TOO MUCH FUNNY  :lol :lol :lol"
 ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 24, 2010, 01:20:28 PM
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Better games suited to portable play? This is why psp is superior. It has games that actively take advantage of being portable.

What?

No

Turn your gamer card immediately
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 01:34:48 PM
i'm confused in this thread we have himuro complaining about the lack of quality releases on the ds and on two other threads we have himuro going about wanting to play infinite space and strange journey

is this another one of those threads that ends with a
"LOLZ I WAS TROLLING YOU GUYS ARE JUST TOO MUCH FUNNY  :lol :lol :lol"
 ???

yes, two games in one week really changes ds' situation. You have the reasoning skills of a four year old.

but those two games are definitely great looking and I'm sure I'll love them heaps.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 01:38:47 PM
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Better games suited to portable play? This is why psp is superior. It has games that actively take advantage of being portable.

What?

No

Turn your gamer card immediately

Nice argument, which really isn't an argument at all, and ignoring the fact that many on this board have to mutual standing on this issue many times: psp is by far the better portable system.

Because you disagree I have to "turn in my gamer card", but really, this just exposes who really needs to lose their card and it's not me.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: magus on March 24, 2010, 01:48:11 PM
i'm confused in this thread we have himuro complaining about the lack of quality releases on the ds and on two other threads we have himuro going about wanting to play infinite space and strange journey

is this another one of those threads that ends with a
"LOLZ I WAS TROLLING YOU GUYS ARE JUST TOO MUCH FUNNY  :lol :lol :lol"
 ???

yes, two games in one week really changes ds' situation. You have the reasoning skills of a four year old.

but those two games are definitely great looking and I'm sure I'll love them heaps.


well you have the reasoning skills of a pacifier </monkeyislandswordduel>
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 01:54:13 PM
i'm confused in this thread we have himuro complaining about the lack of quality releases on the ds and on two other threads we have himuro going about wanting to play infinite space and strange journey

is this another one of those threads that ends with a
"LOLZ I WAS TROLLING YOU GUYS ARE JUST TOO MUCH FUNNY  :lol :lol :lol"
 ???

yes, two games in one week really changes ds' situation. You have the reasoning skills of a four year old.

but those two games are definitely great looking and I'm sure I'll love them heaps.


:rofl

For me the DS games do not need to be portable as I don't play them on the move anyway. They could all be 200 hours behemoths for all I care. And yeah 3D Zeldas are UGH. Terribad. Nowhere, NOWHERE near the pinnacle of portable Zeldas - The Oracles and nowhere near the GBA Zeldas.

This is where we differ then. I mostly play my portables when traveling or outside my place. I don't think the best of ds' lineup lends well to portability, and the games that could such as New Super Mario Bros. are just alright.

Then again it has Mario Kart.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 01:55:09 PM
i'm confused in this thread we have himuro complaining about the lack of quality releases on the ds and on two other threads we have himuro going about wanting to play infinite space and strange journey

is this another one of those threads that ends with a
"LOLZ I WAS TROLLING YOU GUYS ARE JUST TOO MUCH FUNNY  :lol :lol :lol"
 ???

yes, two games in one week really changes ds' situation. You have the reasoning skills of a four year old.

but those two games are definitely great looking and I'm sure I'll love them heaps.


well you have the reasoning skills of a pacifier </monkeyislandswordduel>

How appropriate. You think like a baby.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MCD on March 24, 2010, 02:00:40 PM
i only play my ds when i get hospitalized

damn anus
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 02:02:48 PM
how many fingers can you put in your blowhole, mcd
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MCD on March 24, 2010, 02:06:29 PM
5

1 if it's hairy.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 24, 2010, 02:07:13 PM
TWEWY and Shiren are great
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: magus on March 24, 2010, 02:08:06 PM
recursive wins the thread
twice
(altough for the sake of argument we will say that shiren is a souped up port of an old snes game)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 02:08:47 PM
Shiren is great, but it's also a 15 year old game. But it was nice to play it officially in English. Not big on TWEWY, but I've been meaning to give it another shot.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MCD on March 24, 2010, 02:10:26 PM
TWEWY = stopped playing after main character started talking.

Shiren = what is this distinguished mentally-challenged way of moving? pass.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 02:12:50 PM
Yeah, TWEWY immediately turned me off because of the main character.

Battle system seemed poop too. Having to monitor the battle with two screens = wtf. I'd try to do a slash by making a horizontal line with the stylus and the main character would run. Double wtf.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 24, 2010, 02:38:53 PM
Quote
Better games suited to portable play? This is why psp is superior. It has games that actively take advantage of being portable.

What?

No

Turn your gamer card immediately

Nice argument, which really isn't an argument at all, and ignoring the fact that many on this board have to mutual standing on this issue many times: psp is by far the better portable system.

Because you disagree I have to "turn in my gamer card", but really, this just exposes who really needs to lose their card and it's not me.

Omg,people on this board agree with you...so it must be true...to bad that the rest of the world laughs and plays DS


Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 24, 2010, 02:41:21 PM
Smh, how many DS owners on this board have only had ONE DS?

Ya.  People who buy up grades when they have the original are idiots or too rich.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 02:45:27 PM
Quote
Better games suited to portable play? This is why psp is superior. It has games that actively take advantage of being portable.

What?

No

Turn your gamer card immediately

Nice argument, which really isn't an argument at all, and ignoring the fact that many on this board have to mutual standing on this issue many times: psp is by far the better portable system.

Because you disagree I have to "turn in my gamer card", but really, this just exposes who really needs to lose their card and it's not me.

Omg,people on this board agree with you...so it must be true...to bad that the rest of the world laughs and plays DS




 ::)

How about you offer an argument that's not related to sales or I'll bring up Avatar as a barometer for quality, as that is essentially your argument.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Diunx on March 24, 2010, 03:53:11 PM
:bow Cameron :bow2

:bow Kojima :bow2

:piss more mario and pokemon games but now in 3d!!! :piss2

I hope the psp2 has a 3d screens, would love to kick some greek gods ass in awesome 3d :punch
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 04:02:37 PM
I agree with Himuro for once. The DS is good, but it really is overrated. I don't understand how anyone can say that it has better games than this gens consoles or that it's up there with PS2/SNES. Anyway, here's my list of why it's still worth owning:

Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Age of Empires: Age of the King
Trauma Center: Under the Knife
Front Mission
Kirby Canvas Curse
Metroid Prime Pinball
Metroidvanias
Megaman ZX
Contra 4
Phoenix Wright 1-3
NSMB (even though it was just okay...)
Mario Kart DS
:bow Dragon Quest: Rocket Slime :bow2
Elite Beat Agents
Bleach (the 2 fighting games)
Etrian Odyssey
Tetris

I can't remember what else I've played.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 04:06:57 PM
What do you mean for once? We agree more than we disagree, it's just that people tend to remember disagreements far more often. :P
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 04:09:34 PM
Yeah, I guess that's true. Plus the disagreements are more recent.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 04:11:28 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 04:11:35 PM
Disappointed Beezy didn't list Yoshi's Island 2, which owns.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 04:13:27 PM
I bought it, but I didn't get far. I got sidetracked by something else.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 04:14:18 PM
Sigh, are there any good platformers heading to ds soon? Or is there something I missed?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: archie4208 on March 24, 2010, 04:36:10 PM
Rocket Slime is amazing.  Better than any DS Zeldas.  :bow TOSE :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 04:53:45 PM
Rocket Slime is amazing.  Better than any DS Zeldas.  :bow TOSE :bow2
Sad, but true. Too bad we'll never get a sequel. :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TripleA on March 24, 2010, 05:17:07 PM
Cool cool cool.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: tiesto on March 24, 2010, 05:28:30 PM
Rocket Slime is amazing.  Better than any DS Zeldas.  :bow TOSE :bow2

Well no shit it's better than the DS Zeldas... those games were fucking horrible. Rocket Slime is truly amazing though, a bit on the easy side, would be my only complaint. I can't wait till the Slime Morimori (GBA) fanslation finally gets released.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on March 24, 2010, 06:18:27 PM
Rocket Slime is amazing.  Better than any DS Zeldas.  :bow TOSE :bow2

I love you.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: The Sceneman on March 24, 2010, 06:55:08 PM
Contact owns
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 07:16:37 PM
Contact sucks
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on March 24, 2010, 07:33:14 PM
I always thought Contact was one of those games that I "never got." Please enlighten us Scenester as to why contact "owns."
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 24, 2010, 07:34:24 PM
TWEWY single handedly saved the DS for me. Such an amazing refreshing game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 24, 2010, 07:57:08 PM
knights in the nightmare > twewy

demi = weeaboo
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: magus on March 24, 2010, 08:05:04 PM
knights in the nightmare > twewy

demi = weeaboo
anything is better than "hit the barrel: THE RPG" :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 24, 2010, 08:25:35 PM
Wait wait I can do this one

What was it Prole said about Star Ocean 4. But guys, it offers a lot of customization, and minmaxing, and hobblegobbledobble

It never fails :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Fragamemnon on March 24, 2010, 08:30:19 PM
Prole can get away with that though since he's developed something of a Mithradatic resistance to :uguu after years of crusin' the panty patrol. Catgirls and lolis in french maid outfits don't even faze him anymore.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 24, 2010, 08:32:31 PM
Sounds like excuses. You're getting the itch too Frag. You're next
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Fragamemnon on March 24, 2010, 08:35:21 PM
Sounds like excuses. You're getting the itch too Frag. You're next

rest assured if I wind up buying Ar Tonelico 3 I'll get it new so I can slam down the included  preorder bonus cyanide pill at the first cutscene.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 24, 2010, 08:35:56 PM
"I just love stats, man. That's it. Really."
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 24, 2010, 08:59:57 PM
I couldn't get into TWEWY but I certainly see its appeal.  I might try it again someday.

DS has definitely been my favorite handheld, I don't care if himumumumumu~ thinks its overrated.

Ace Attorney games
Trauma Center games
Advance Wars games
Final Fantasy IV DS
Dragon Quest IV and V
Mario and Luigi 3
NSMB (definitely a weak entry into the series but a nice launch title for the DS Lite)
Mario Kart DS (the best Mario Kart to date)
Animal Crossing DS (first time I ever played it was for DS, I ended up getting addicted.  I know, uguu~)
Pokemon Platinum and SoulSilver
Castlevanias (I had never played any until the DS games, loved the first one especially)
Chrono Trigger port omg
Contra 4
Tetris DS
Soul Bubbles  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Rhythm Heaven
Retro Game Challenge
Planet Puzzle League
Picross DS
Elite Beat Agents
Kirby CC
Space Invaders Extreme

plus a few others.  list wars :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 24, 2010, 09:01:31 PM
Yus, DS has a nice library. Even MAF was making threads left and right about it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: cool breeze on March 24, 2010, 09:07:55 PM
BrandNew's list seppuku for including Mario and Luigi 3

DS has tons of great games.  I don't like the hardware (PSP hardware :bow2) but DS has a ton of great games.  And yeah, Mario Kart DS is the best Mario Kart.  People whine that people just exploit the game online but w/e, when it was released I played it with friends and it is by-far the most enjoyable Mario Kart game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: The Sceneman on March 24, 2010, 09:11:42 PM
Contact sucks
(http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/gifs/commandowrong.gif)

I actually cant remember why it owns, arbys, the battle system sucks big time but I liked the jokes and music. Guess Im one of those 'novelty cunts' who enjoys certain bullshit in games. I like Flower Sun and Rain. also
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Smooth Groove on March 24, 2010, 09:17:14 PM
I completely disagree with Himu's assessment that the PSP is better suited for portable gaming.  Not only does the PSP have longer load times and lower battery life, its library has mostly been filled with games that people are still playing on current consoles.  The PSP is basically the PS2 lite.  The NDS has terribly outdated hardware but it does a much better job of providing gaming experiences that aren't usually found in home consoles.  

Having said that, if I had to pick one system, I'd still go with the PSP.  I just can't stand the DS's butt-ugly 3d graphics.  But that ain't saying much.  Portable gaming is severely overrated by gaming geeks.  Unless you're someone that just aren't at home enough to game on a PC or console, portable gaming is just pointless.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 24, 2010, 09:40:46 PM
I don't think any internetfag on this board or most of gaf actually views these things as an opportunity to game on the go anymore.  That shit ended with the GBA.  I play most of these game at night before I go to bed.  I think that's generally what these things have become.  I base that off of no particular anecdote and really nothing at all.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Ichirou on March 24, 2010, 09:41:48 PM
DS has more variety of games.  PSP games look better.  Own both, like me, and be a winnar.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 10:09:28 PM
I completely disagree with Himu's assessment that the PSP is better suited for portable gaming.  Not only does the PSP have longer load times and lower battery life, its library has mostly been filled with games that people are still playing on current consoles.  The PSP is basically the PS2 lite.  The NDS has terribly outdated hardware but it does a much be

Longer load times isn't much of a problem these days. psp is full of games that are great for casual play, especially with its myriad of puzzle games. psp has the better variety of the two as well: better platformers, better strategy games, better puzzle games, better compilations.

That said, ds is no slouch either.

Both systems are rreally good and I can't think of a system war nearly as involving since snes vs genesis. Like with those two systems it's all about player  taste. Genesis had what SNES didn't have (fast paced action games) and snes had genesis lacked for the most part (a better variety of rpgs). Both systems are great and compliment each other.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 24, 2010, 10:18:49 PM
sega had sonic

thus, sega lost
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 10:19:59 PM
Sega also had Shinobi. Thus, Nintendo lost hard
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MCD on March 24, 2010, 10:37:43 PM
snes = mega man x

bitch please.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 24, 2010, 10:38:49 PM
LOST HARD
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Oblivion on March 24, 2010, 10:39:41 PM
Were any specs revealed (cpu, gpu, etc?)?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 10:42:33 PM
snes = mega man x

bitch please.

mmx1+2 are snes saving grace when it comes to quick action
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on March 24, 2010, 10:48:27 PM
What's wrong with X3?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2010, 10:49:17 PM
not big on that one.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 24, 2010, 11:25:57 PM
I always thought Contact was one of those games that I "never got." Please enlighten us Scenester as to why contact "owns."

I don't think Contact was a good game.  I think it was a game with many interesting concepts that never got an endgame to flesh them out.  But man, it was so surreal.  I would definitely hit up a sequel.

That seems to be Grasshopper Manufacture's pattern.  Make a game with good music, unique art style, fun concepts- release it 6 months early.
 :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 24, 2010, 11:31:48 PM
This whole thread reeks of nerd counterculture bullshit.  The DS is pointless for the same reason the psp is pointless.  Its a portable. If you're an adult I don't understand when you are playing these games that you can't play on a console.  If you have to own one, the ds has concepts that can only be accomplished on its platform (trauma center, elite beat agents) as well a more diverse library.  PSP support has been shit forever now and even when it came out it had like uhh... lumines, c+ games, and capcom remakes that controlled like shit or had performance issues.  I think I liked my psp for about a week and the only game that I could recommend was hot shots golf.

In the interests of integrity I shouldn't be commenting on the psp cus I traded it in when I realised loco roco was shit.  DS is great, stop trying to look cool.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Ichirou on March 24, 2010, 11:47:29 PM
EmCee, you have to remember the home audience for these machines is Japan, where public transportation is used by pretty much everyone.  Step into any train or subway in Japan and I will guarantee you will see at least a couple of people playing on DS or PSP - in each train car.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 24, 2010, 11:50:30 PM
The DS is a stagnant platform that has been that way for about two years now.  It's like what Hotel Dusk was when it came out: everyone likes to talk about how awesome it is but that is only because other people keep saying how awesome it is.  The DS was great for a while.  Then Nintendo decided they weren't going to make games for it anymore.  Developers kept dumping ports onto the thing.  Hardly a good thing, let alone great.  I don't feel like pretending that half assed efforts are somehow a good thing which is why I can't get excited over the state of the DS.

As for the 3DS, boy I can't wait for SE to start rehashing old FF and DQ games again on the thing.  Since it is 3D, they can just go back and start all over again with FFI.  Can't wait to see what Pokemon game Nintendo wants to remake on the thing.  I'll give it a shot but if the DS is any indicator, it is just going to be another port wasteland but this time in 3D.  Maybe we'll get another shit Mario & Luigi game.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 24, 2010, 11:54:52 PM
Maybe we'll get another Etrian Odyssey, or TWEWY :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Ichirou on March 24, 2010, 11:56:26 PM
The World Continues Without You
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 24, 2010, 11:58:19 PM
t exp has such a crusty vagina
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 25, 2010, 12:07:30 AM
EmCee, you have to remember the home audience for these machines is Japan, where public transportation is used by pretty much everyone.  Step into any train or subway in Japan and I will guarantee you will see at least a couple of people playing on DS or PSP - in each train car.

I acknowledge this.  But most of the people here are americans/europeans who don't use public transportation enough to have a practical reason to play portables.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: archie4208 on March 25, 2010, 12:07:50 AM
Maybe we'll get another Etrian Odyssey, or TWEWY :bow

EO3 is coming out soon in Japan which means the English version will probably be out this fall.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 25, 2010, 12:08:18 AM
The DS is a stagnant platform that has been that way for about two years now.  It's like what Hotel Dusk was when it came out: everyone likes to talk about how awesome it is but that is only because other people keep saying how awesome it is.  The DS was great for a while.  Then Nintendo decided they weren't going to make games for it anymore.  Developers kept dumping ports onto the thing.  Hardly a good thing, let alone great.  I don't feel like pretending that half assed efforts are somehow a good thing which is why I can't get excited over the state of the DS.

As for the 3DS, boy I can't wait for SE to start rehashing old FF and DQ games again on the thing.  Since it is 3D, they can just go back and start all over again with FFI.  Can't wait to see what Pokemon game Nintendo wants to remake on the thing.  I'll give it a shot but if the DS is any indicator, it is just going to be another port wasteland but this time in 3D.  Maybe we'll get another shit Mario & Luigi game.



Buy rhythm heaven you boob.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Ichirou on March 25, 2010, 12:18:35 AM
EmCee, you have to remember the home audience for these machines is Japan, where public transportation is used by pretty much everyone.  Step into any train or subway in Japan and I will guarantee you will see at least a couple of people playing on DS or PSP - in each train car.

I acknowledge this.  But most of the people here are americans/europeans who don't use public transportation enough to have a practical reason to play portables.

Yeah, most people in the US play them in spite of the fact that they're portable, imo, or they're little kids who play them at school.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: originalz on March 25, 2010, 12:18:58 AM
Oh man, imagine a game like Etrian Odyssey using 3D technology.

The DSi is actually really good for a portable machine.  Most of the DSi downloadable games are good for quick gaming, and you can have a few good games on your menu, easily accessible.  It's great when I just need to kill a few minutes waiting for something, pull out a quick game of solitaire or an art style game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Oblivion on March 25, 2010, 01:05:40 AM
Were any specs revealed (cpu, gpu, etc?)?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 25, 2010, 01:06:37 AM
Were any specs revealed (cpu, gpu, etc?)?

No, all that came out was a dry short press release in pdf format.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: naff on March 25, 2010, 01:29:04 AM
I'm just hoping for OLED!  Wireless N would also be boss.

Sony has an 11" OLED screen selling for 2k, pretty crazy but then the IPad also has OLED and that's a reasonable price. But yeah, OLED and Wireless N would be really fucking good  :hyper Emphasis on the OLED  :drool

The only handheld I've ever owned was a GB colour when I was a kid. And that was only for Pokemon, and even then I didn't really give a fuck. Maybe, but most likely not, I'll try a DS someday. There's occasionally some good shit but it needs to be more integrated with my home console experience for me to bother with one, PSPs getting there in this regard but still not quite.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: originalz on March 25, 2010, 02:13:38 AM
The Wiz has an OLED touch screen and retails for $150, and Gamepark doesn't have the power that Nintendo does so I'm sure price shouldn't be that much of a problem for them.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 25, 2010, 07:42:22 AM
t exp has such a crusty vagina

Better a crusty vagina than a hyperbolic twee hipster.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 25, 2010, 12:31:40 PM
t exp has such a crusty vagina

Better a crusty vagina than a hyperbolic twee hipster.

I'm to most normal vanilla person you'll ever meet.  Nothing hipster about me, turd.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: originalz on March 26, 2010, 03:50:16 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgxGo0rsdco[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on March 26, 2010, 05:06:06 AM
that's fake right? that's like a fucking hologram

LIES
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 26, 2010, 09:28:10 AM
Here's a thought

What if 3DS is a decoy and spotlight is reserved for "Wii HD"...nobody is now talking about it,everybody expects just 3DS...in Japan Nintendo acts like Wii barely exists,a bit suspicious i think

"Wii HD"-better,super precise motion controls,plays Wii games,HD capable,designed to do 3D...

Wii HD...$249
3DS...$199
Wii...$99-$149


That would be fun :usavich

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on March 26, 2010, 02:08:34 PM
oh man if they drop the Wii to $150 I'm all over that shit like a black man on white women.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 26, 2010, 02:10:25 PM
that's fake right? that's like a fucking hologram

LIES

:lol No man, that vid is real
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: originalz on March 27, 2010, 01:46:59 AM
in Japan Nintendo acts like Wii barely exists,a bit suspicious i think

What the hell are you talking about?  The Wii is "the" system in Japan.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: MCD on March 27, 2010, 03:28:20 AM
kinda related:

http://kotaku.com/5503312/nintendos-new-ds-will-still-force-you-to-re+buy-your-digital-games

nintendo still living in the dark ages.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Ichirou on March 27, 2010, 03:34:04 AM
in Japan Nintendo acts like Wii barely exists,a bit suspicious i think

What the hell are you talking about?  The Wii is "the" system in Japan.

Don't ruin maxy's theory with your "facts"! :maf
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 27, 2010, 05:23:58 AM
in Japan Nintendo acts like Wii barely exists,a bit suspicious i think

What the hell are you talking about?  The Wii is "the" system in Japan.

I am talking about game releases.Nintendo has been pretty lazy this year and third parties are not interested.
NSMB can't do everything alone.

 :maf
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 27, 2010, 10:21:40 AM
kinda related:

http://kotaku.com/5503312/nintendos-new-ds-will-still-force-you-to-re+buy-your-digital-games

nintendo still living in the dark ages.

Nintendo stalwart and defiant!!! :lol

Just amazing how clueless they are BUT IT DOES NOT EVEN MATTER.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 27, 2010, 02:16:25 PM
Their internal Network Development Group is half stuck in the dark ages and half not. It's a frustrating experience dealing with the upper management there.

?
You work in the industry?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 27, 2010, 02:17:09 PM
in Japan Nintendo acts like Wii barely exists,a bit suspicious i think

What the hell are you talking about?  The Wii is "the" system in Japan.

What the hell are you talking about?   The DS/PSP are "the" only systems in Japan with noteworthy sales and support.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 27, 2010, 03:05:41 PM
Anybody who has to re-buy DSiWare games when the 3DS comes out are the ones with the egg on their face.  DSiWare games :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on March 27, 2010, 03:06:43 PM
Anybody who has to re-buy DSiWare games when the 3DS comes out are the ones with the egg on their face.  DSiWare games :teehee

there are some that I want, but nothing worth buying a system for
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 27, 2010, 04:06:28 PM
Yeah.  I think the DSiWare service was a test run for them before unveiling a much deeper and more diverse service for 3DS–methinks Virtual Handheld type stuff.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: cool breeze on March 27, 2010, 05:09:42 PM
and this is why I don't buy anything on wiiware or dsiware even though I want to.  I only bought pictobits and that warioware face tech demo thing because of the free points I got with my DSi.  Pictobits is really good, actually.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on March 27, 2010, 07:43:08 PM
when I hear Nintendo/Apple comparisons they're only making more sense. Nintendo is missing so many common-sense things in the digidistro realm that I really wish were there. Virtual Handheld, for instance, or being able to play SNES-era or earlier VC games on the DS.

None of this shit would even be that cumbersome or costly to integrate but just like Apple, they just keep avoiding it like it'll disappear.

I don't understand this shit at all. Why spend R&D bucks on some gimmick like 3D when you could use that cash to let me play Super Metroid on my DS? why not make a handheld to compete directly with the PSPgo by having it be download only, but it can play a majority of the VC library including DSiware?

there's a list as long as God's dick for the kinds of toys Nintendo could've made instead of this. whatever, I don't give a shit anymore.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on March 27, 2010, 07:48:14 PM
Their internal Network Development Group is half stuck in the dark ages and half not. It's a frustrating experience dealing with the upper management there.

?
You work in the industry?

I can answer this one.




He's under NDA, no more questions.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: originalz on March 27, 2010, 09:36:40 PM
in Japan Nintendo acts like Wii barely exists,a bit suspicious i think

What the hell are you talking about?  The Wii is "the" system in Japan.

What the hell are you talking about?   The DS/PSP are "the" only systems in Japan with noteworthy sales and support.

I don't really care so much about the sales or whatever the Internet says, but I can see with my own eyes that the Wii is far from lacking support.  It's not as huge as the DS is, of course, but on the console side Wii is what everyone thinks of when you think of videogames now.  Everywhere you go, you see Wii.  At the family department stores, they usually only stock Wii and DS titles, maybe some PSP stuff too but not nearly as much and usually only Monster Hunter shit.  When you buy batteries, they have the icon for the Wii remote on the package.  The majority of people I know own or want a Wii.  It's the same as when people had the mindset of the "PS2=gaming system" last gen.  It has a very strong mindshare, and Nintendo constantly advertises the system on TV and other forms.  You'd have to be insane to think that it's being ignored here.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: drew on March 27, 2010, 10:46:04 PM
This whole thread reeks of nerd counterculture bullshit.  The DS is pointless for the same reason the psp is pointless.  Its a portable. If you're an adult I don't understand when you are playing these games that you can't play on a console.

you obviously never travel
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Reb on March 29, 2010, 05:48:32 AM
I used to play DS while watching TV.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on March 30, 2010, 01:36:50 PM
 
Quote
The announcement, in short, sent the message to U.S. buyers of the $190 Nintendo DSi XL that they are buying technology that will quickly be outdated.
Analysts say the timing of the announcement for the 3DS was definitely poor, but Nintendo’s corporate headquarters was likely trying to get ahead of the rumor mill.

“Apparently, the Japanese press was all over it and talked with suppliers there and Nintendo just wanted to get out ahead by breaking the news to prevent a leak,” says Billy Pigeon, senior analyst with M2 Research. “Does it clash with the DSi XL? Yes it does.

The XL is old news, however, in Japan – and Nintendo is a very Japan-centric organization. This is just the corporate parent in Japan maybe not acting in the best interest of Nintendo of America.”

Officials at Nintendo of America declined to comment about the 3DS announcement or its potential effect on DSi XL sales.

http://www.cnbc.com//id/36087758? (http://www.cnbc.com//id/36087758?)

Makes sense.
DS price will probably go down after 3DS price announcement.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Damian79 on April 15, 2010, 09:11:35 PM
(http://img1.chinagba.com/medias/allimg/100415/1513260.jpg)

Deadmeat posted this at opa ages, claiming that the 3DS will be ps3 level(:lol) and that the psp2 will be weaker than the iPhone.  Anyone that can read japanese clarify this?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on April 15, 2010, 09:17:52 PM
Leave the Deadmeat crap over there please
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Damian79 on April 15, 2010, 09:20:25 PM
Bubububu I love deadmeat.  His delusions are awesome.  :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TripleA on April 15, 2010, 09:42:05 PM
(http://img1.chinagba.com/medias/allimg/100415/1513260.jpg)

Deadmeat posted this at opa ages, claiming that the 3DS will be ps3 level(:lol) and that the psp2 will be weaker than the iPhone.  Anyone that can read japanese clarify this?

Never going to happen, Nintendo aren't foolish enough to pursue that much horsepower for the DS2/3DS.


Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Damian79 on April 15, 2010, 09:45:52 PM
Yeah i am guessign that the 3DS will have horsepower equivalent or a little better than the GCN as most people say.  As for the PSP2 i dont know what to think.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 16, 2010, 12:42:21 AM
The 3DS will have graphics a little worse than the Wii...so yeah, a little sub-GC level.

PSP2 will be like Xbox, I'd say.  I base that on nothing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: pilonv1 on April 16, 2010, 01:14:23 AM
DSi got a $50 price cut here. Of course we were paying ridiculous prices anyway

DS Lite - $199
DSi $249
DSi XL - $299
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: originalz on April 16, 2010, 05:29:01 AM
The article does indeed say that the Tegra thing will be as powerful as PS3's graphics chip.  I'm sure there's other limitations that would make the hardware less powerful overall, but it looks like Nintendo ain't skimping out!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on April 16, 2010, 05:59:55 AM
That would have to be Tegra 2 chip...hmm,unlikely

Tegra 2 would have to satisfy two req

1.Cheaper than anything that Nintendo can hack together,performance req satisfied
2.Extra low power consumption...without that Nintendo will not even consider...Nvidia claims that,but who knows

Tegra 2

(http://i39.tinypic.com/3342bg6.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: magus on April 16, 2010, 03:56:53 PM
i think it would be more correct to ask
"is this news correct"
you sure you aren't thinking of that game for a unannounced platform? :wtf
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: magus on April 16, 2010, 04:12:59 PM
nah,they said it was for an unreleased platform,so most people automaticaly assumed it was for the 3DS
spoiler (click to show/hide)
maybe it's a dreamcast 2 game  :o
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: treythemovie on April 18, 2010, 10:09:06 PM
The article does indeed say that the Tegra thing will be as powerful as PS3's graphics chip.  I'm sure there's other limitations that would make the hardware less powerful overall, but it looks like Nintendo ain't skimping out!

They probably got that tidbit from this presentation (or similar):

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpGtu_ZkwqA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Damian79 on April 19, 2010, 08:02:22 PM
That presentation is barely gamecube level lol.  Good to see some reasonable estimates on how powerful the 3ds will be.  Based on the video that is.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 19, 2010, 08:08:33 PM
Nah, that's pretty beyond Gamecube levels --looks like high-tier original Xbox, to be honest.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Damian79 on April 19, 2010, 08:35:48 PM
Not really, high tier xbox games had bumpmapping or bloom.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 20, 2010, 12:29:33 PM
Apparently this launches in October.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on April 20, 2010, 03:06:32 PM
Apparently this launches in October.

 :hyper
Hopefully Nintendo includes some decent modern hardware in it.
If they do i hope that good western dev support skyrockets...Bioware,Bethesda,Rockstar and even MS,etc

We need some good western handheld hardcore support,PSP tried but failed miserably and DS was just too outdated for western devs.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/nn2phl.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: chronovore on April 29, 2010, 06:54:05 AM
Where's the pie chart for "games you want to play (per platform)"? Pretty sure it'd be a more even split. There is SO much garbage on the DS, almost as much as there is on the Wii.

It's really baffling, because it's not as though there's no market for PSP. Sure there are only half as many PSPs as DS systems, but it's no mean feat to even pull half the numbers of the DS. But for some reason, PSP s/w doesn't sell. I find it hard to believe that everyone has their PSP hacked for piracy, or even that all hardcore gamers are pirating most of their software... but PSP games just /don't/ seem to sell at all.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: tiesto on April 29, 2010, 09:22:22 AM
Apparently this launches in October.

 :hyper
Hopefully Nintendo includes some decent modern hardware in it.
If they do i hope that good western dev support skyrockets...Bioware,Bethesda,Rockstar and even MS,etc

We need some good western handheld hardcore support,PSP tried but failed miserably and DS was just too outdated for western devs.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/nn2phl.jpg)

Ports of some old computer games would work really well on the DS, given the stylus controls. Especially oldskool RPGs and point-and-click adventure games, and loot based dungeon crawls. Maybe we'll see some on 3DS at least.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on May 17, 2010, 04:17:18 AM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/slo943.jpg)

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-3ds-dev-motherboard-sighted (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-3ds-dev-motherboard-sighted)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 17, 2010, 11:32:15 AM
Hope that bottom screen ends up becoming widescreen as well.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: cool breeze on May 17, 2010, 11:41:10 AM
one analog stick from the looks of it.  still two shoulder buttons, d-pad, four face buttons, start, select, etc.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on May 17, 2010, 11:54:49 AM
Something interesting from Gamasutra,not directly related to 3DS,but...

Quote
As for the Nintendo DS platform and its three systems (Lite, DSi, and DSi XL), the results of April 2010 were very encouraging. In a conversation with Pachter, he suggested that Nintendo DSi XL sales were roughly three times the level of PSP sales during the month. That's certainly a lower average rate than the system saw for its launch in March, but we are impressed that the newer model with its larger screen and commensurately higher $190 price accounted for more than 40% of the platform's sales for the month.

$199-$249 seems likely for 3DS
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Damian79 on May 18, 2010, 12:01:12 AM
Hope that bottom screen ends up becoming widescreen as well.

I hope not.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 18, 2010, 12:40:52 AM
Hope that bottom screen ends up becoming widescreen as well.

I hope not.

wtf
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: pilonv1 on May 18, 2010, 02:06:28 AM
How could anyone not want widescreen in 2010? Nintendo breeding technology poors
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Damian79 on May 18, 2010, 04:00:04 AM
Widescreen would mean it wouldnt fit in your pockets easy.  Top is fine as wide screen though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on May 18, 2010, 05:45:49 AM


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Nintendo registered Nintendo 3DS, N3DS, and two more curious terms – 3DSPlay  and 3DSWare. The latter sounds like the Nintendo 3DS’ version of DSiWare, a downloadable game service Nintendo introduced with the Nintendo DSi. Perhaps the Nintendo 3DS is getting its own shop with downloadable games. 3DSPlay is quizzical. Could it be a WiiPlay  equivalent?

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/05/17/nintendo-3ds-has-3dsware-and-3dsplay/ (http://www.siliconera.com/2010/05/17/nintendo-3ds-has-3dsware-and-3dsplay/)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on May 18, 2010, 02:04:18 PM
Widescreen would mean it wouldnt fit in your pockets easy.  Top is fine as wide screen though.

If one screen is already wide, then making the other one wide isn't going to increase the size at all, what the hell.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on May 18, 2010, 02:18:37 PM
Widescreen would mean it wouldnt fit in your pockets easy.  Top is fine as wide screen though.

If one screen is already wide, then making the other one wide isn't going to increase the size at all, what the hell.
:lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: brawndolicious on May 18, 2010, 05:08:20 PM
So is this on more powerful (gamecube level?) hardware or is it just a DS with an accelerometer?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 18, 2010, 05:30:02 PM
It's supposed to be GC levels.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: TripleA on May 18, 2010, 05:30:14 PM
I strongly doubt it will be more powerful than/as powerful as a GCube.

My prediction; Graphics power will be equivalent to the Dreamcast.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: demi on May 18, 2010, 06:06:44 PM
Wii = Comparable to N64
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Damian79 on May 18, 2010, 07:43:58 PM
If one screen is already wide, then making the other one wide isn't going to increase the size at all, what the hell.

Sarcasm?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: originalz on May 18, 2010, 09:58:39 PM
I strongly doubt it will be more powerful than/as powerful as a GCube.

My prediction; Graphics power will be equivalent to the Dreamcast.

I don't think you guys realize how far technology has progressed.  Hell, the Wiz has GC-level specs and that's a tiny handheld which was released over a year ago, made by a small-name company.  You're crazy if you don't think the 3DS will be significantly more powerful than that.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Damian79 on June 06, 2010, 06:04:01 AM
Sammy from Opa-ages is claiming this is the 3ds graphics chip.

http://www.dmprof.com/release/leaflet_SMAPH-S_en.pdf
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Damian79 on June 06, 2010, 08:27:15 AM
It isnt the Tegra however.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/nvidia-unconnected-with-3ds-blog-entry
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on June 11, 2010, 09:21:47 AM
http://www.eurogamer.nl/videos/nintendo-3ds-eerste-beelden?size=hd (http://www.eurogamer.nl/videos/nintendo-3ds-eerste-beelden?size=hd)

hmm...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Himu on June 11, 2010, 09:37:29 AM
I'll be impressed if 3ds is remotely like that....
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2010, 09:45:12 AM
smh @ Nintendo always cutting corners
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: maxy on June 11, 2010, 09:48:27 AM
EG usually doesn't post "fake" videos...probably some viral video to build hype

If i had to guess,it would be like this

-screen configuration and form factor will be similar
-button layout..no

There was a rumor few months ago that said..two screens that "merge" into one when fully opened

Anyway the wait will be over soon,only few days to go
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Raban on June 11, 2010, 01:05:51 PM
http://www.eurogamer.nl/videos/nintendo-3ds-eerste-beelden?size=hd (http://www.eurogamer.nl/videos/nintendo-3ds-eerste-beelden?size=hd)

hmm...

:rofl