Nintendo 3DS

[Himu]

Honestly though, for the past year or so both handheld lineups have been disappointing. It's so obvious both are on their last legs.

Sorry but

If that was true DS wouldn't be the best selling handheld device EVER.

It would not sell 30M units in Japan ALONE.

Do you even have a psp or ds? 

[archie4208]

The DS is pretty overrated outside of the SMT games and Picross/3D Picross.  Most of the mainline Nintendo games shoehorn touchscreen and mic gimmicks that are incredibly annoying.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I had a shitload of ds games before I traded it in, none of them jrpgs.  So you're all wrong! 
...
I really hope the release Advance Wars on the Wii at some point  :'(

[EmCeeGrammar]

Honestly though, for the past year or so both handheld lineups have been disappointing. It's so obvious both are on their last legs.

Sorry but

If that was true DS wouldn't be the best selling handheld device EVER.

It would not sell 30M units in Japan ALONE.

Do you even have a psp or ds? 

I finished over 20 DS games.

Oh, I get it.

[cool breeze]

It's funny and all but I wish damn Nintendo had some serious competition.

Xboy with Halo 1 CE remake/port with hybrid Halo 1/2 wireless adhoc and online play please, with bots added for single play romps.

Give me Blood Gulch in my hands.

I was thinking about the only thing Sony could do that would make the PSP2 or other handheld worth it is to have anywhere online play, but I don't see that being possible with current tech.  You'd need Wi-fi and that makes the entire thing flawed.

[Himu]

The DS is pretty overrated outside of the SMT games and Picross/3D Picross.  Most of the mainline Nintendo games shoehorn touchscreen and mic gimmicks that are incredibly annoying.

There are some other good games, though. Kirby's Canvas Curse is the best Nintendo game on the system.

[Himu]

Uh, gba2? DS not overrated?

How about you offer an argument that's not related to sales or I'll bring up Avatar as a barometer for quality, as that is essentially your argument.

[archie4208]

The DS is pretty overrated outside of the SMT games and Picross/3D Picross.  Most of the mainline Nintendo games shoehorn touchscreen and mic gimmicks that are incredibly annoying.

There are some other good games, though. Kirby's Canvas Curse is the best Nintendo game on the system.

I loved KCC.  It seems Nintendo's games shine when they revolve an entire game around the touchscreen (KCC, 3D Picross) or when they don't bother with the touchscreen at all (NSMB).  It is the middle ground that fucks over their games.

[Beezy]

- FF remakes in 3D
- GBA-quality or better Metroidvanias
- Mario & Luigi games
- Mario Kart DS
- quirky games like Hotel Dusk

enough?

That's a sad attempt at a list...

[archie4208]

- FF remakes in 3D
- GBA-quality or better Metroidvanias
- Mario & Luigi games
- Mario Kart DS
- quirky games like Hotel Dusk

enough?

*FF remakes are garbage.  Hideos 3D and load times out of the ass make them a giant slog.
*Dawn of Sorrow is the only decent DS Metroidvania, and it still isn't as good as Aria.
*Both M&L DS games are inferior to Paper Mario 2.
*Mario Kart is pretty good.
*Hotel Dusk is fucking trash.  I bought into the hype because EGM gave it a 10 and I got burnt.

[Himu]

- FF remakes in 3D
- GBA-quality or better Metroidvanias
- Mario & Luigi games
- Mario Kart DS
- quirky games like Hotel Dusk

enough?

You have to be kidding me. That list does not argue that ds isn't overrated. Also, don't get us (or me, rather) wrong. Overrated does not mean bad; ds is a good system, but not as good as forum denizens and the media would like to think it is. I can't even believe you've listed Hotel Dusk.

Archie, FF4 remake is fantastic, though.

[tiesto]

I expected more 2D goodness, less buttugly 3D

[SantaC]

the 2D games are the best part of the DS. Damn the 3D zeldas sure are ugly

[Himu]

Well I liked dem games *shrugs* I mean what you people expected from DS? Western games?

Better games suited to portable play? This is why psp is superior. It has games that actively take advantage of being portable.

Rpgs are not the best games for portability.

Maybe if ds had a bigger number of action games, or platformers or pick up and play games? Maybe if all the rpgs that hit the system were better? I dunno, but ds is an overrated system, the people acting like just because the system gets a lot of games it's on par with the ps2 are jackasses. ds is NOT ps2.

[magus]

i'm confused in this thread we have himuro complaining about the lack of quality releases on the ds and on two other threads we have himuro going about wanting to play infinite space and strange journey

is this another one of those threads that ends with a
"LOLZ I WAS TROLLING YOU GUYS ARE JUST TOO MUCH FUNNY  "
 

[maxy]

Better games suited to portable play? This is why psp is superior. It has games that actively take advantage of being portable.

What?

No

Turn your gamer card immediately

[Himu]

i'm confused in this thread we have himuro complaining about the lack of quality releases on the ds and on two other threads we have himuro going about wanting to play infinite space and strange journey

is this another one of those threads that ends with a
"LOLZ I WAS TROLLING YOU GUYS ARE JUST TOO MUCH FUNNY  "
 

yes, two games in one week really changes ds' situation. You have the reasoning skills of a four year old.

but those two games are definitely great looking and I'm sure I'll love them heaps.

[Himu]

Better games suited to portable play? This is why psp is superior. It has games that actively take advantage of being portable.

What?

No

Turn your gamer card immediately

Nice argument, which really isn't an argument at all, and ignoring the fact that many on this board have to mutual standing on this issue many times: psp is by far the better portable system.

Because you disagree I have to "turn in my gamer card", but really, this just exposes who really needs to lose their card and it's not me.

[magus]

i'm confused in this thread we have himuro complaining about the lack of quality releases on the ds and on two other threads we have himuro going about wanting to play infinite space and strange journey

is this another one of those threads that ends with a
"LOLZ I WAS TROLLING YOU GUYS ARE JUST TOO MUCH FUNNY  "
 

yes, two games in one week really changes ds' situation. You have the reasoning skills of a four year old.

but those two games are definitely great looking and I'm sure I'll love them heaps.

well you have the reasoning skills of a pacifier </monkeyislandswordduel>

[Himu]

i'm confused in this thread we have himuro complaining about the lack of quality releases on the ds and on two other threads we have himuro going about wanting to play infinite space and strange journey

is this another one of those threads that ends with a
"LOLZ I WAS TROLLING YOU GUYS ARE JUST TOO MUCH FUNNY  "
 

yes, two games in one week really changes ds' situation. You have the reasoning skills of a four year old.

but those two games are definitely great looking and I'm sure I'll love them heaps.

For me the DS games do not need to be portable as I don't play them on the move anyway. They could all be 200 hours behemoths for all I care. And yeah 3D Zeldas are UGH. Terribad. Nowhere, NOWHERE near the pinnacle of portable Zeldas - The Oracles and nowhere near the GBA Zeldas.

This is where we differ then. I mostly play my portables when traveling or outside my place. I don't think the best of ds' lineup lends well to portability, and the games that could such as New Super Mario Bros. are just alright.

Then again it has Mario Kart.

[Himu]

i'm confused in this thread we have himuro complaining about the lack of quality releases on the ds and on two other threads we have himuro going about wanting to play infinite space and strange journey

is this another one of those threads that ends with a
"LOLZ I WAS TROLLING YOU GUYS ARE JUST TOO MUCH FUNNY  "
 

yes, two games in one week really changes ds' situation. You have the reasoning skills of a four year old.

but those two games are definitely great looking and I'm sure I'll love them heaps.

well you have the reasoning skills of a pacifier </monkeyislandswordduel>

How appropriate. You think like a baby.

[MCD]

i only play my ds when i get hospitalized

damn anus

[Himu]

how many fingers can you put in your blowhole, mcd

[MCD]

5

1 if it's hairy.

[recursivelyenumerable]

TWEWY and Shiren are great

[magus]

recursive wins the thread
twice
(altough for the sake of argument we will say that shiren is a souped up port of an old snes game)

[Himu]

Shiren is great, but it's also a 15 year old game. But it was nice to play it officially in English. Not big on TWEWY, but I've been meaning to give it another shot.

[MCD]

TWEWY = stopped playing after main character started talking.

Shiren = what is this distinguished mentally-challenged way of moving? pass.

[Himu]

Yeah, TWEWY immediately turned me off because of the main character.

Battle system seemed poop too. Having to monitor the battle with two screens = wtf. I'd try to do a slash by making a horizontal line with the stylus and the main character would run. Double wtf.

[maxy]

Better games suited to portable play? This is why psp is superior. It has games that actively take advantage of being portable.

What?

No

Turn your gamer card immediately

Nice argument, which really isn't an argument at all, and ignoring the fact that many on this board have to mutual standing on this issue many times: psp is by far the better portable system.

Because you disagree I have to "turn in my gamer card", but really, this just exposes who really needs to lose their card and it's not me.

Omg,people on this board agree with you...so it must be true...to bad that the rest of the world laughs and plays DS

[Madrun Badrun]

Smh, how many DS owners on this board have only had ONE DS?

Ya.  People who buy up grades when they have the original are idiots or too rich.

[Himu]

Better games suited to portable play? This is why psp is superior. It has games that actively take advantage of being portable.

What?

No

Turn your gamer card immediately

Nice argument, which really isn't an argument at all, and ignoring the fact that many on this board have to mutual standing on this issue many times: psp is by far the better portable system.

Because you disagree I have to "turn in my gamer card", but really, this just exposes who really needs to lose their card and it's not me.

Omg,people on this board agree with you...so it must be true...to bad that the rest of the world laughs and plays DS

 

How about you offer an argument that's not related to sales or I'll bring up Avatar as a barometer for quality, as that is essentially your argument.

[Diunx]

Cameron

Kojima

more mario and pokemon games but now in 3d!!!

I hope the psp2 has a 3d screens, would love to kick some greek gods ass in awesome 3d

[Beezy]

I agree with Himuro for once. The DS is good, but it really is overrated. I don't understand how anyone can say that it has better games than this gens consoles or that it's up there with PS2/SNES. Anyway, here's my list of why it's still worth owning:

Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Age of Empires: Age of the King
Trauma Center: Under the Knife
Front Mission
Kirby Canvas Curse
Metroid Prime Pinball
Metroidvanias
Megaman ZX
Contra 4
Phoenix Wright 1-3
NSMB (even though it was just okay...)
Mario Kart DS
Dragon Quest: Rocket Slime
Elite Beat Agents
Bleach (the 2 fighting games)
Etrian Odyssey
Tetris

I can't remember what else I've played.

[Himu]

What do you mean for once? We agree more than we disagree, it's just that people tend to remember disagreements far more often.

[Beezy]

Yeah, I guess that's true. Plus the disagreements are more recent.

[Beezy]

 

[Himu]

Disappointed Beezy didn't list Yoshi's Island 2, which owns.

[Beezy]

I bought it, but I didn't get far. I got sidetracked by something else.

[Himu]

Sigh, are there any good platformers heading to ds soon? Or is there something I missed?

[archie4208]

Rocket Slime is amazing.  Better than any DS Zeldas.  TOSE

[Beezy]

Rocket Slime is amazing.  Better than any DS Zeldas.  TOSE

Sad, but true. Too bad we'll never get a sequel. :'(

[TripleA]

Cool cool cool.

[tiesto]

Rocket Slime is amazing.  Better than any DS Zeldas.  TOSE

Well no shit it's better than the DS Zeldas... those games were fucking horrible. Rocket Slime is truly amazing though, a bit on the easy side, would be my only complaint. I can't wait till the Slime Morimori (GBA) fanslation finally gets released.

[Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich]

Rocket Slime is amazing.  Better than any DS Zeldas.  TOSE

I love you.

[The Sceneman]

Contact owns

[Himu]

Contact sucks

[Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich]

I always thought Contact was one of those games that I "never got." Please enlighten us Scenester as to why contact "owns."

[demi]

TWEWY single handedly saved the DS for me. Such an amazing refreshing game.

[Van Cruncheon]

knights in the nightmare > twewy

demi = weeaboo

[magus]

knights in the nightmare > twewy

demi = weeaboo

anything is better than "hit the barrel: THE RPG"

[demi]

Wait wait I can do this one

What was it Prole said about Star Ocean 4. But guys, it offers a lot of customization, and minmaxing, and hobblegobbledobble

It never fails

[Fragamemnon]

Prole can get away with that though since he's developed something of a Mithradatic resistance to after years of crusin' the panty patrol. Catgirls and lolis in french maid outfits don't even faze him anymore.

[demi]

Sounds like excuses. You're getting the itch too Frag. You're next

[Fragamemnon]

Sounds like excuses. You're getting the itch too Frag. You're next

rest assured if I wind up buying Ar Tonelico 3 I'll get it new so I can slam down the included  preorder bonus cyanide pill at the first cutscene.

[demi]

"I just love stats, man. That's it. Really."

[TakingBackSunday]

I couldn't get into TWEWY but I certainly see its appeal.  I might try it again someday.

DS has definitely been my favorite handheld, I don't care if himumumumumu~ thinks its overrated.

Ace Attorney games
Trauma Center games
Advance Wars games
Final Fantasy IV DS
Dragon Quest IV and V
Mario and Luigi 3
NSMB (definitely a weak entry into the series but a nice launch title for the DS Lite)
Mario Kart DS (the best Mario Kart to date)
Animal Crossing DS (first time I ever played it was for DS, I ended up getting addicted.  I know, uguu~)
Pokemon Platinum and SoulSilver
Castlevanias (I had never played any until the DS games, loved the first one especially)
Chrono Trigger port omg
Contra 4
Tetris DS
Soul Bubbles 
Rhythm Heaven
Retro Game Challenge
Planet Puzzle League
Picross DS
Elite Beat Agents
Kirby CC
Space Invaders Extreme

plus a few others.  list wars

[demi]

Yus, DS has a nice library. Even MAF was making threads left and right about it.

[cool breeze]

BrandNew's list seppuku for including Mario and Luigi 3

DS has tons of great games.  I don't like the hardware (PSP hardware ) but DS has a ton of great games.  And yeah, Mario Kart DS is the best Mario Kart.  People whine that people just exploit the game online but w/e, when it was released I played it with friends and it is by-far the most enjoyable Mario Kart game.

[The Sceneman]

Contact sucks

I actually cant remember why it owns, arbys, the battle system sucks big time but I liked the jokes and music. Guess Im one of those 'novelty cunts' who enjoys certain bullshit in games. I like Flower Sun and Rain. also