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Title: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 16, 2010, 03:43:18 PM
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Mavs in four over the Cavs
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 16, 2010, 03:46:48 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 16, 2010, 03:48:06 PM
Basketball Jesus will get his first title. Book it.

 :patel
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Mandark on April 16, 2010, 03:48:19 PM
The West should have a ton of great series.

Once again, the East is top heavier than [female celebrity with big knockers and narrow hips].

No real rooting interest for me, so I'll just pull for every series to go to 7.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 16, 2010, 03:51:56 PM
Jazz wins it all
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 16, 2010, 03:53:36 PM
WEST:
-First Round
---Lakers over Thunder (but I want the Thunder to win)--6 games
---Nuggets over Jazz---5 games
---Suns over Trailblazers---5 games
---Mavs over Spurs---7 games

-Second Round
---Nuggets over Lakers---6 games
---Mavs over Suns---6 games

-Third Round
---Nuggets over Mavs---7 games

EAST:
-First Round
---Cavs over Bulls---6 games
---Celtics over Heat---5 games
---Hawks over Bucks---4 games
---Magic over Bobcats---5 games

-Second Round
---Cavs over Celtics---7 games
---Magic over Hawks---6 games

-Third Round
---Cavs over Magic---7 games

FINALS
---Cavs over Nuggets---6 games
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 16, 2010, 03:56:37 PM
You would pick the Cavs. . . .

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Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 16, 2010, 03:58:17 PM
I'm from Cleveland

and gawtam he's sexy
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 16, 2010, 04:00:53 PM
and gawtam he's sexy


all over your face?


He's no Steve Nash.

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Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 16, 2010, 04:02:05 PM
good for whitey
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 16, 2010, 04:02:30 PM
Thunder in 5 over the Cavs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 16, 2010, 04:09:47 PM
lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Himu on April 16, 2010, 04:53:29 PM
Finally, the only good part of the NBA.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Bacchus7 on April 16, 2010, 05:15:09 PM
Lakers over Thunder in 5
Nuggets over Jazz in 6
Trailblazers over Suns in 7
Mavericks over Spurs in 5

Cavaliers over Bulls in 4
Celtics over Heat in 6
Hawks over Bucks in 6
Magic over Charlotte in 4

Lakers over Nuggets in 6
Trailblazers over Mavericks in 5

Cavaliers over Celtics in 5
Magic over Hawks in 5

Trailblazers over Lakers in 6
Cavaliers over Magic in 6

Cavaliers over Trailblazers in 6
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 16, 2010, 05:17:11 PM
That would be the greatest accomplishment in the NBA's history if Portland makes it that far without Brandon Roy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Bacchus7 on April 16, 2010, 05:18:07 PM
Heart, baby.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 16, 2010, 05:33:10 PM
I'm with you if that happens.  It'd be a joy to rub that into the faces of all the Lakers band-wagoners in LA.  Even my 80 yr old Grandma is a Lakers fan now.  It's sickening.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 16, 2010, 05:34:38 PM
How can anyone NOT living in LA be a Lakers fan?*

*or Yankees fan, or Steelers fan, or Red Sox fan, or Penguins fan

spoiler (click to show/hide)
or Cavs fan
[close]
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 16, 2010, 07:30:30 PM
Lakers will probably blow out the Thunder in game 1 and then manage to lose game 2, go to OKC and have a bit of freak out, then eventually wrap it up in six games.

And then lose in the second round. :rock
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 16, 2010, 09:41:50 PM
I don't remember the last time I payed attention to the NBA this season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 16, 2010, 11:52:34 PM
smh
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 16, 2010, 11:56:13 PM
I don't remember the last time I payed attention to the NBA this season.

Same. The NBA sucks. I don't even really like the playoffs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 16, 2010, 11:59:01 PM
I'm with you if that happens.  It'd be a joy to rub that into the faces of all the Lakers band-wagoners in LA.  Even my 80 yr old Grandma is a Lakers fan now.  It's sickening.

How the fuck can you be a band-wagoner if you live in the city where the team plays?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 17, 2010, 12:26:27 AM
Pretty easy. You don't get a free pass for choosing to follow a team only if they're winning because you live in the hometown. That's what separates the real fans from BANDWAGON fans.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 17, 2010, 01:11:48 AM
there are no sports fans in LA
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 17, 2010, 04:32:15 AM
I used to check boxscores/replays every night, but I only did that a couple times this season. Didn't watch any games on ESPN360 either.

I'll no doubt watch some playoff games when I can find them online but jeez, I'm just not into the product anymore. I hate to sound like "that guy" but dammit, NBA basketball is boring. I had a blast going to multiple college games this year, watching the conference tournaments and then watching one of the best and most unpredictable NCAA tournaments I've ever seen.

I've always been into basketball but I'm way more excited about the NFL season starting lol, and can't wait for draft day
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 17, 2010, 04:38:01 AM
I just love basketball enough to watch the NBA, but the college game AND the euro game are far more interesting to watch. The Thunder would be a fun team to watch these playoffs, but I know that due to their market and that Durant still has to earn more "rep" that they won't make it that far. Then I realize I am basing game outcomes on market share, business opportunities and officiating instead of talent comparisons, and I feel a little sick inside.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ToxicAdam on April 17, 2010, 05:10:43 AM
Sorry, Cleveland has to win a title. It's their first real chance in 30+ and might be their last for another 30 (until the city crumbles and all the franchises move away).

Let us have our one moment.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 17, 2010, 06:49:33 AM
there are no sports fans in LA

Have you ever hung out in LA for more than a few hours?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 17, 2010, 11:00:37 AM
NBA Player "Clutch" Stats, defined as 4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points

per 48 minutes
James 66.1 points, .340 3pFG%, 80% FT, 8.3 assists
Bryant 51.2 points, .357 3pFG%, 82% FT, 3.6 assists
Nowitzki 47.2 points, .667 3pFG%, 98% FT, 5.3 assists
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 17, 2010, 03:48:47 PM
Sorry, Cleveland has to win a title. It's their first real chance in 30+ and might be their last for another 30 (until the city crumbles and all the franchises move away).

Let us have our one moment.

No, the Mavericks need a championship worse. 10 years in a row with 50+ wins, and nothing to show for it? That's not even fair. You what the only other two teams to get 10 50 win seasons in a row are? The 80's Lakers (5 Titles) and the 00's Spurs (3 Titles).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 17, 2010, 03:53:21 PM
NBA Player "Clutch" Stats, defined as 4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points

per 48 minutes
James 66.1 points, .340 3pFG%, 80% FT, 8.3 assists
Bryant 51.2 points, .357 3pFG%, 82% FT, 3.6 assists
Nowitzki 47.2 points, .667 3pFG%, 98% FT, 5.3 assists

lol Nowitzski lighting it up in garbage time with his team down double digits :smug

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 17, 2010, 04:06:42 PM
NBA Player "Clutch" Stats, defined as 4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points

per 48 minutes
James 66.1 points, .340 3pFG%, 80% FT, 8.3 assists
Bryant 51.2 points, .357 3pFG%, 82% FT, 3.6 assists
Nowitzki 47.2 points, .667 3pFG%, 98% FT, 5.3 assists

lol Nowitzski lighting it up in garbage time with his team down double digits :smug


Quote
neither team ahead by more than 5 points
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 17, 2010, 04:12:49 PM
ha, he can't pull off divisive victories :smug
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 17, 2010, 04:15:55 PM
ha, he can't pull off divisive victories :smug

True, Dirk's a pretty amiable guy, he wouldn't do something to cause a big fight like some players would.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 17, 2010, 04:28:07 PM
nevermind
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 17, 2010, 04:29:47 PM
Bulls looking like the Bulls
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 17, 2010, 04:49:07 PM
There is no reason to watch this series.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 17, 2010, 05:05:53 PM
Yeah, it's gonna be just like last season for the Cavs, now that I'm seeing this game.  Sweep the first two rounds, struggle in the conference finals, my guess.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: drew on April 17, 2010, 05:10:26 PM
i want to punch that guy with the beard in the fucking face
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Bacchus7 on April 17, 2010, 05:14:09 PM
Brad Miller? He's got some stones. I've always respected his game, first with the Pacers and even as a King. I want to see him fight Lebron. That fight would be nuts.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: drew on April 17, 2010, 05:17:27 PM
not sure, he kind of looks like a russian, he flagrantly fouled lebron and was laughing in the free throw lineup
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 17, 2010, 05:20:55 PM
Brad is actually a temperamental baby.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 17, 2010, 05:43:50 PM
yeah miller gets all bitchy, gaf responds "omg lebron is soooooo babied"
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Kestastrophe on April 17, 2010, 05:50:03 PM
Pretty easy. You don't get a free pass for choosing to follow a team only if they're winning because you live in the hometown. That's what separates the real fans from BANDWAGON fans.
That's why Detroit Lions fans are as sad real as it gets  ;)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: drew on April 17, 2010, 05:54:38 PM
yeah miller gets all bitchy, gaf responds "omg lebron is soooooo babied"

jesus h christ THE GUY PRACTICALLY COLLAPSED ON LEBRON
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2010, 06:18:07 PM
GAF's NBA followers are mostly Lakers fans? 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 17, 2010, 06:28:14 PM
Yeah.  Well I mean, there's a ton of LA gaffers.  Cleveland-GAF is few and far between.

Like Kobe is any less "babied."  ::)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2010, 06:35:20 PM
What's with that dump attracting so many assholes?  Showbe fanboys and Sfags are two of the things that I hate most in life.  Wish I could meet some of those bitches IRL.  :punch
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 17, 2010, 06:47:13 PM
Eh, I don't really have a problem with people being Kobe fans.  Why shouldn't they?  He's one of the best players in basketball.  I just hate how people can claim to be fans of him but these same people bring a fury against people who are Cavs fans.  That's why I don't post in NBA threads anymore.

Reilo was the last straw.  He is, to be fair, a fuckwad.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2010, 07:04:02 PM
Why shouldn't they? 

Aside from the fact that Kobe is a fucking dick, he's simply nowhere as good as they think he is.  The majority of Lakers fans in LA truly believe that Kobe is the greatest player ever.  Yeah, he's good but objective analysis shows that he's clearly a tier below Jordan, Lebron and even several Lakers greats.  Kobe dullards will never believe that because they somehow think that stats are biased against him.  Predictably, Lakers fans will bring out the championship argument against Lebron but what happens to that logic when they're gushing over how great Jerry West was?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 17, 2010, 07:39:39 PM
GAF is silly with their Kobe love and Lebron Hate although I personally have nothing against Kobe. Great player.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: drew on April 17, 2010, 07:42:03 PM
how can you hate lebron?

hes a nice guy
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2010, 07:52:22 PM
Kobe is great in the same sense that Jeter is great.   
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 17, 2010, 09:11:35 PM
*mind boggle*

Both are some of the best players in their respective leagues.  You be hatin'!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 17, 2010, 10:43:13 PM
Aside from the fact that Kobe is a fucking dick, he's simply nowhere as good as they think he is.  The majority of Lakers fans in LA truly believe that Kobe is the greatest player ever.  Yeah, he's good but objective analysis shows that he's clearly a tier below Jordan, Lebron and even several Lakers greats.

Putting Jordan and Lebron in the same tier. SMH.

Also, Jerry West-led teams went to the Finals like nine times. Stick to medicine, dude.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Bloodwake on April 17, 2010, 10:56:00 PM
Lol, I remember when I cared about the NBA.

I want the Cavs to win. It's been long enough and it's not like the Browns have brought the city any joy once they returned.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 17, 2010, 11:03:57 PM
I'd be down with the Cavs winning a title if it weren't for Lebron.  :yuck

People say Kobe is arrogant, but Bron takes it to a whole different level. With Kobe it's all about the game. Bron has stupid gimmicks like throwing powder into the air, and comments like wanting to be the first billionaire athlete, or "If I can't wear #23, no one should." Shit like that just makes me really want to see him go ringless.

I'd rather see fucking Carmelo Anthony lead his team to a title.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Mandark on April 17, 2010, 11:10:52 PM
Yeah.

On the other hand, there was that time when Kobe raped that chick.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 17, 2010, 11:12:42 PM
It's not rape if they drop the charges!  8)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2010, 11:19:31 PM
Aside from the fact that Kobe is a fucking dick, he's simply nowhere as good as they think he is.  The majority of Lakers fans in LA truly believe that Kobe is the greatest player ever.  Yeah, he's good but objective analysis shows that he's clearly a tier below Jordan, Lebron and even several Lakers greats.

Putting Jordan and Lebron in the same tier. SMH.

Also, Jerry West-led teams went to the Finals like nine times. Stick to medicine, dude.

Statistically, Lebron is one of the few players who've ever performed within 10% of Jordan.  I'm not saying they're equally as good but Lebron's within range, unlike Kobe. 

So what if Jerry went to the finals 9 times?  That just made me think of the Atlanta Braves instead of the iconic figure he's become among Lakers fans. 


I'd be down with the Cavs winning a title if it weren't for Lebron.  :yuck

People say Kobe is arrogant, but Bron takes it to a whole different level. With Kobe it's all about the game. Bron has stupid gimmicks like throwing powder into the air, and comments like wanting to be the first billionaire athlete, or "If I can't wear #23, no one should." Shit like that just makes me really want to see him go ringless.

I'd rather see fucking Carmelo Anthony lead his team to a title.

Yeah, Lebron is so arrogant that he passes the ball to an old Shaq more than Kobe ever did to Shaq in his prime. 


Stick to getting annihilated in movie threads, Mr. 160!

:fbm
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2010, 11:20:18 PM
It's not rape if they drop the charges!  8)

It's not consensual either if the accused had to issue a public apology. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Ichirou on April 17, 2010, 11:25:38 PM
It's not rape if they drop the charges!  8)

It's not consensual either if the accused had to issue a public apology. 


Green Shinobi annihilated.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 17, 2010, 11:27:01 PM
You can go back and forth on that issue all day, but at the end of the day, Kobe has been convicted of rape as many times as you or I have (not sure about Ichirou).

Lebron's put up some nice stats the last few seasons, but Jordan dominated both sides of the ball, and his defensive repertoire included more than a few highlight-reel chase-down blocks. I also feel like Lebron should win at least one title (or maybe just a game or two in the Finals) before being compared to the all-time greats. As of now, Kobe has the better career, and that's pretty much indisputable.

Furthermore, Kobe led all three of those title-winning teams in assists. So much for your "not-passing the ball" theory. Go read up on the triangle offense when you have a minute, and let me know if you come across any examples of a single player racking up huge assist averages in that offense.

Don't you have some recto-vaginal fistulas to sew up?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 17, 2010, 11:27:18 PM
Bron has stupid gimmicks like throwing powder into the air, and comments like wanting to be the first billionaire athlete

Why in god's name would this bother you unless you are 12?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Ichirou on April 17, 2010, 11:28:03 PM
You can go back and forth on that issue all day, but at the end of the day, Kobe has been convicted of rape as many times as you or I have (not sure about Ichirou).

So what you're saying is you've gotten away with rape?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 17, 2010, 11:30:09 PM
You can go back and forth on that issue all day, but at the end of the day, Kobe has been convicted of rape as many times as you or I have (not sure about Ichirou).

So what you're saying is you've gotten away with rape?

 :shh
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Ichirou on April 17, 2010, 11:31:15 PM
You can go back and forth on that issue all day, but at the end of the day, Kobe has been convicted of rape as many times as you or I have (not sure about Ichirou).

So what you're saying is you've gotten away with rape?

 :shh

Well, that explains a lot.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2010, 11:31:53 PM
Don't you have some recto-vaginal fistulas to sew up?

Not today.  Thanks for asking, pal.

How about you?  Don't you have some gooks to knock up?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 17, 2010, 11:34:41 PM
Don't you have some recto-vaginal fistulas to sew up?

Not today.  Thanks for asking, pal.

How about you?  Don't you have some gooks to knock up?

Thanks for reminding me!  8)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Ichirou on April 17, 2010, 11:35:34 PM
I like the new Green Shinobi.  Takes his repeated annihilations/humiliations like a man.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 17, 2010, 11:39:34 PM
Furthermore, Kobe led all three of those title-winning teams in assists. So much for your "not-passing the ball" theory. Go read up on the triangle offense when you have a minute, and let me know if you come across any examples of a single player racking up huge assist averages in that offense.

So why did Phil and many of Kobe's teammates have problems with him being selfish?  Phil never had that many complaints about Jordan, who btw averaged 10 assists in his 1st Finals appearance.  
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 17, 2010, 11:48:02 PM
Shots elbows fired in the Celtics/Heat game. Garnett going top shelf on some guy's head.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 17, 2010, 11:48:55 PM
Yes, but he averaged 5.5 for the season. The triangle spreads assists around. This is a very well-known fact.

Anyway, no one will deny that Kobe has done his share of ball-hogging, but the feuds didn't really start in earnest until 2003, when Shaq delayed his foot surgery until the preseason (this was when he uttered his infamous line about how if he hurt the foot on company time, he'd do his recovery on company time). Then Shaq came in ridiculously out of shape that season and the next, while Kobe is known to have one of the hardest, if not the hardest, work-ethics in the league. Should he have passed more, especially in the 04 Finals? No doubt. But you can understand why things happened the way they did.

That's all water under the bridge now though. Two Finals appearances in a row; here's hoping they can make it three this year and hang up another banner.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Mandark on April 18, 2010, 12:00:37 AM
What I've learned about the internet:  Most Laker fans are really Kobe Bryant fans, and Kobe fans hate whomever they see as the biggest threat to his legacy.

You could tell T-Mac was done when they stopped bothering to talk smack about him.  Wade had a year or two as the main target of their ire.  Now it's LeBron, and they're not gonna win that battle.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 18, 2010, 12:05:41 AM
What Lebron does for the rest of his career will decide that.

As of now he has one fewer ring than Dwyane Wade does.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 18, 2010, 02:04:03 PM
You can go back and forth on that issue all day, but at the end of the day, Kobe has been convicted of rape as many times as you or I have (not sure about Ichirou).

You can go back and forth on the issue all day, but OJ Simpson has been convicted of murder as many times I have.

As of now, Kobe has the better career, and that's pretty much indisputable.

So a 31 year-old has had a better career than a 25 year-old? Awesome?

Furthermore, Kobe led all three of those title-winning teams in assists. So much for your "not-passing the ball" theory. Go read up on the triangle offense when you have a minute, and let me know if you come across any examples of a single player racking up huge assist averages in that offense.

Who was his main competition? Shaq? Fisher, who Laker fans have bashed--rightfully so--for over a decade?

It's not as if Kobe doesn't touch the ball a lot in the triangle offense. He has been in the top three in usage rate seven times.

Has a great point guard ever played in a triangle offense (outside of Phil Jackson, who has used the triangle offense in its entirety for any significant length of time)? This might explain why no one has racked up huge assists in a triangle offense (clearly, a ball-dominant point guard would not like the triangle offense).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 18, 2010, 02:11:28 PM
Damn, Greeny just got annihilated by Malek's LSAT logic. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2010, 02:17:52 PM
Malek is just bitter his favorite team will never win a championship, at least not with a pussy 7 footer
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 18, 2010, 02:27:20 PM
If I'm bitter, it's because I just now got a prescription for RAN-Zopiclone. Fuck this stuff is awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 18, 2010, 02:28:51 PM
I must have been confused 'cause I thought you said that drug didn't work.  What were you using before?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 18, 2010, 02:40:11 PM

Who was his main competition? Shaq? Fisher, who Laker fans have bashed--rightfully so--for over a decade?

It's not as if Kobe doesn't touch the ball a lot in the triangle offense. He has been in the top three in usage rate seven times.

Has a great point guard ever played in a triangle offense (outside of Phil Jackson, who has used the triangle offense in its entirety for any significant length of time)? This might explain why no one has racked up huge assists in a triangle offense (clearly, a ball-dominant point guard would not like the triangle offense).

Another important point is that Kobe was mostly a facilitator during the Shaq years so he should have been expected to put up better assisting numbers than Jordan ever did. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2010, 02:50:41 PM
Sorry, I will never consider a rapist "great"
:lol

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 18, 2010, 02:51:33 PM
Sorry, I will never consider a rapist "great"
:lol



But I'm pretty sure Cohen considered Polanski great. 

:fbm
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 18, 2010, 02:59:21 PM
I must have been confused 'cause I thought you said that drug didn't work.  What were you using before?
I complained only after taking it for a couple of days. It's not perfect, but I fall asleep quickly and get enough rest to study effectively.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2010, 04:29:33 PM
sorry durrant. This ain't the regular season anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2010, 04:46:36 PM
Lakers are gonna be tough to beat...

Hopefully we get Lakers Cavs in the finals.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Veidt on April 18, 2010, 04:54:36 PM
I have a major request. I really wanna watch the NBA. But there's no channels that actually show it here ( let alone the fact that I have no Cable). What's the best way for a Euro to get into this sport? It's always been the one sport I actually wanted to get into, but was unattainable due to circumstance.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 18, 2010, 05:04:48 PM
I have a major request. I really wanna watch the NBA. But there's no channels that actually show it here ( let alone the fact that I have no Cable). What's the best way for a Euro to get into this sport? It's always been the one sport I actually wanted to get into, but was unattainable due to circumstance.

sopcast? p2p streaming services maybe?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Veidt on April 18, 2010, 05:06:15 PM
Don't know what sopcast is. :(

edit: googled, this look good :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on April 18, 2010, 05:10:37 PM
Don't bother with Sopcast and the like unless absolutely necessary. Always check the sports section on Veetle (http://veetle.com) first. Best quality out of any streaming service available, and chances are that if the game is on ABC or TNT then someone is streaming it. Lakers game: http://veetle.com/view/index.html#4bcb514c71f86

If I can't find it on Veetle or it's an NBATV/LP game then I just use http://atdhe.net and http://p2p4u.net

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Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Veidt on April 18, 2010, 05:52:22 PM
oh wow, that's a GOOD stream right there!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 18, 2010, 05:55:02 PM
The Oklahoma City Westbrooks
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 18, 2010, 07:56:39 PM
You can go back and forth on the issue all day, but OJ Simpson has been convicted of murder as many times I have.
False equivalence and you know it. There was a great deal of evidence linking OJ to the murder, plus that hours-long car chase before charges were ever filed. The Kate Faber case was purely a he-said/she-said thing, with the defense downright embarrassing the prosecution in every pre-trial hearing.

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So a 31 year-old has had a better career than a 25 year-old? Awesome?
Yes, furthermore, Kobe had also accomplished more at age 25 (three titles) than Lebron has any chance of doing until he's 27. I know he played with Shaq.  :patel

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Who was his main competition? Shaq? Fisher, who Laker fans have bashed--rightfully so--for over a decade?

It's not as if Kobe doesn't touch the ball a lot in the triangle offense. He has been in the top three in usage rate seven times.

Has a great point guard ever played in a triangle offense (outside of Phil Jackson, who has used the triangle offense in its entirety for any significant length of time)? This might explain why no one has racked up huge assists in a triangle offense (clearly, a ball-dominant point guard would not like the triangle offense).

Not sure what you're getting at here. Are you saying that Kobe should have more assists? He's a shooting guard, and furthermore, he consistently ranks as one of the top shooting guards in this category. And no, I can't think of any great point guards who have played in the triangle aside from Gary Payton, who was clearly over the hill when he got to the Lakers in 03-04. His assists dropped precipitously that season however, from 8.8 to 5.5 per game in only 6 fewer minutes. Incidentally, Jordan's assists per game also dropped once Phil Jackson became the Bulls' coach, from a high of 8.0 per game in 88-89 to 6.3 in Jackson's first year as head coach, and soon settled into an average of about 5.5 assists per game.

I'm not saying that Kobe would put up Lebron-like assist numbers in a regular offense, but saying he doesn't pass is ignorant. He has ball-hog moments, but anyone who watches Lakers games consistently can see that he passes a lot. But if you're trying to make this into a Kobe vs Lebron thing, then I'll concede now that Lebron is a better passer and just say that Kobe's passing is underrated by those who don't watch the Lakers regularly.

Damn, Greeny just got annihilated by Malek's LSAT logic. 

Bitch please.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 18, 2010, 08:16:58 PM
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Not sure what you're getting at here. Are you saying that Kobe should have more assists? He's a shooting guard, and furthermore, he consistently ranks as one of the top shooting guards in this category. And no, I can't think of any great point guards who have played in the triangle aside from Gary Payton, who was clearly over the hill when he got to the Lakers in 03-04. His assists dropped precipitously that season however, from 8.8 to 5.5 per game in only 6 fewer minutes. Incidentally, Jordan's assists per game also dropped once Phil Jackson became the Bulls' coach, from a high of 8.0 per game in 88-89 to 6.3 in Jackson's first year as head coach, and soon settled into an average of about 5.5 assists per game.

I'm not saying that Kobe would put up Lebron-like assist numbers in a regular offense, but saying he doesn't pass is ignorant. He has ball-hog moments, but anyone who watches Lakers games consistently can see that he passes a lot. But if you're trying to make this into a Kobe vs Lebron thing, then I'll concede now that Lebron is a better passer and just say that Kobe's passing is underrated by those who don't watch the Lakers regularly.

About everything you said here is part of the point that was being made.

Namely, that Kobe was the major distributor during the Shaq years since shaq was the focus point. Pippen was the major distributor for the Bulls, so Jordan's assists numbers going down when he wasn't the one man show anymore makes sense.

If Kobe was a willing passer earlier in his year, he'd have a shit ton more assists by now. His ability to fully play within a team offense only showed up a few years ago.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 18, 2010, 08:19:57 PM
This is why everyone hates Lakers fans :'(

This is why Lakers fans hate everyone who doesn't watch the games and relies on hearsay and box-scores to tell them what they need to know.

Also, etiolate, you need to go back and look at Pippen's assist numbers. Here's a career stats page for him:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/scottie_pippen/career_stats.html (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/scottie_pippen/career_stats.html)

His numbers in that category were barely better than Kobe's.

In the triangle there is no main distributor; everyone is a distributor. That's the whole point of the offense. This doesn't need to be a big deal. I'm just stating facts.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 18, 2010, 08:24:00 PM
This is why everyone hates Lakers fans :'(

This is why Lakers fans hate everyone who doesn't watch the games and relies on hearsay and box-scores to tell them what they need to know.

So Phil Jackson doesn't watch the games?  GTFO with that nonsense
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 18, 2010, 08:33:23 PM
This is why everyone hates Lakers fans :'(

This is why Lakers fans hate everyone who doesn't watch the games and relies on hearsay and box-scores to tell them what they need to know.

Also, etiolate, you need to go back and look at Pippen's assist numbers. Here's a career stats page for him:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/scottie_pippen/career_stats.html (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/scottie_pippen/career_stats.html)

His numbers in that category were barely better than Kobe's.

In the triangle there is no main distributor; everyone is a distributor. That's the whole point of the offense. This doesn't need to be a big deal. I'm just stating facts.

The point is that Pippen was the guy who made sure the ball movement didn't die. He was a better passer than Kobe. That doesn't show up in stats, its just something you realize by having watched both players.

And there is a main ball guy in the triangle, thats why Phil runs it with ball hungry guys like Kobe and Jordan.

If you are a Laker fan, you should be noticing by now that distribution improves with Pau touching the ball, and that in the coming years he will start to become the distributor.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 18, 2010, 10:03:57 PM
You can go back and forth on the issue all day, but OJ Simpson has been convicted of murder as many times I have.
False equivalence and you know it. There was a great deal of evidence linking OJ to the murder, plus that hours-long car chase before charges were ever filed. The Kate Faber case was purely a he-said/she-said thing, with the defense downright embarrassing the prosecution in every pre-trial hearing.


False charge of fallacy and you know it.

Let's go back:


You can go back and forth on that issue all day, but at the end of the day, Kobe has been convicted of rape as many times as you or I have (not sure about Ichirou).

My response:
You can go back and forth on the issue all day, but OJ Simpson has been convicted of murder as many times I have.

I wasn't saying that their situations were equivalent; I was trying to point out that a lack of conviction is not determinative of ultimate guilt. I used the OJ case because it demonstrates this principle clearly, not because of any similarity to Kobe Bryant's case.

Whenever a comparison between two things is made, there are going to be differences between those two things. For our purposes, none of the differences are relevant.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on April 18, 2010, 10:18:57 PM
Dirk is such a stud
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 18, 2010, 10:21:46 PM
Dirk is such a stud

19 points on 7 of 9 at the half? choker.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 18, 2010, 10:45:18 PM
Kobe paid out a big sum of money and issued a public apology long after everyone knew of the incident.  Why do that if it were really an affair and not a rape? You don't have to be a Kobe hater to smell that something's not right. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2010, 10:48:50 PM
malek, hook a brother up with a link to the game. I'm in the library, I feel lost without my favorites file :(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 18, 2010, 10:53:32 PM
malek, hook a brother up with a link to the game. I'm in the library, I feel lost without my favorites file :(

http://www.atdhe.net/17721/watch-san-antonio-spurs-vs-dallas-mavericks
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2010, 10:58:33 PM
*clicks*
*nsfw ad banner pops up*


smh, had to refresh like 5 times to get rid of that
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 18, 2010, 11:04:05 PM
Kobe paid out a big sum of money and issued a public apology long after everyone knew of the incident.  Why do that if it were really an affair and not a rape? You don't have to be a Kobe hater to smell that something's not right. 

Because his time is worth more than the cost of the settlement. Even if he paid her a million, that's a drop in the bucket to someone who makes $20m a year. Not having to fly back and forth to Denver for a long, drawn-out trial is easily worth that, even if he was 100% certain to be acquitted (which is likely). Especially for a guy who takes his training as seriously as Bryant does.

For 5% of your annual paycheck, the whole thing goes away. You'd be an idiot not to settle.

Or maybe he's just guilty.  It makes at least as much as sense as the PR damage control.  I'm not sure why Kobe fans just can't seem to accept that possibility. Fighting back was the only way to make himself look less guilty and he was fully capable of doing it.  Other pro athletes in his situation have done it.  Sorry but I just don't buy the argument that basketball is more important to Kobe than the taint of being a rapist. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2010, 11:50:59 PM
Her story fell apart pretty quickly. Kobe was innocent.

Honestly Big Ben's situation sounds far more fishy than Kobe's.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 19, 2010, 12:08:02 AM
Probably smells fishier, too.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 19, 2010, 12:08:47 AM
smh  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 19, 2010, 12:24:23 AM
At least Kobe only rapes girls in his hotel room. Ben does the deed in a dirty old bathroom. :yuck
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 19, 2010, 12:27:01 AM
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You could just as easily ask "If she was really raped, why did she settle?

Because money is everything today and we all here are nothing subsequently.


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Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 19, 2010, 12:34:41 AM
Yup, victim had more to lose by not settling than the perp in this case. Case was always going to be tough to win even if she were telling the truth.  It's just how our justice system works.  The amount of justice given to an individual is directly related to that person's wealth, which makes you wonder why Kobe was willing to spend that much money just to settle for a case that he could easily have won. 

Oh well, at least we now know Greeny doesn't care if his hero is a rapist as long as he's shooting a high field goal percentage.  These two make a better combo than Shaq and Kobe ever did. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 19, 2010, 12:37:43 AM
Dirk only scored 4 pts in the final quarter?  What a choker!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Ichirou on April 19, 2010, 01:13:48 AM
Mark David Chapman brought Catcher in the Rye back to the forefront of literary discussion.  Good on him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Bacchus7 on April 19, 2010, 02:04:31 AM
Anyone watching this Blazers/Suns game? Best game of the playoffs so far imo.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 19, 2010, 02:21:18 AM
Mark David Chapman brought Catcher in the Rye back to the forefront of literary discussion.  Good on him.
:lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 19, 2010, 09:35:49 PM
holy fuck at Lebron's posterization dunk on Johnson.  Pure fucking power.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 19, 2010, 10:04:29 PM
Caught the Spurs-Mavs and Blazers-Suns games on League Pass last night. Both series look like they'll be fun, especially the latter. The Blazers are still surprisingly deep after losing Roy and Oden. I could see this one going 6 or 7 for sure. Most of the other 1st round series look like snoozers though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 19, 2010, 11:25:15 PM
Lebron is nasty tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on April 19, 2010, 11:25:42 PM
Nerf LeBron
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 19, 2010, 11:26:20 PM
Lebron is incredible
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 19, 2010, 11:27:53 PM
James

40 pts FG 15/23 8 ast 8 reb
 :bow2
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 19, 2010, 11:32:11 PM
Great performance from Lebron.  That last twirl around layup was just ridiculous.  BUT as a coach, I'd be a little worried.  Sure, Lebron scored a lot tonight but those aren't the shots that he usually takes.  That's the difference between Jordan and Kobe/Lebron, imo.  MJ always takes the exact shots that he wants to take while those other two sometimes let the defense dictate what they can get.    
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 19, 2010, 11:34:10 PM
Those aren't the shots he usually takes, true, but does it really matter if he still sinks them anyway?

but I agree with you, the Bulls have something to go off of for their home game.  Brown needs to address the Cavs defense...but you know he won't because he's Mike Brown.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 19, 2010, 11:35:53 PM
Yeah, but Jordan was reffed in a way that hardly any player was allowed to play real D on him. Kobe/Lebron get that sort of treatment, but nobody has had it to the level MJ had. If you tried to force him into something he didn't want, there would just be a phantom whistle. If he was having an off shooting night then there would be a phantom whistle.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 19, 2010, 11:38:23 PM
Yeah, but Jordan was reffed in a way that hardly any player was allowed to play real D on him. Kobe/Lebron get that sort of treatment, but nobody has had it to the level MJ had. If you tried to force him into something he didn't want, there would just be a phantom whistle. If he was having an off shooting night then there would be a phantom whistle.

In the later years that was definitely the case. It was very frustrating watching other players have to play him on defense. Superstars get calls but MJ calls in the later stages were just painful.

MJ was smart though. When it counted he always took it inside where you know there is going to be contact and the refs feel obligated to call something.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 19, 2010, 11:46:05 PM
LeBron's biggest problem with shot selection is those 30 foot heat checks he keeps on serving up, even in the final 90 seconds of close games. But he'll never have a coach call him on that shit so it's not going to get better most likely. Making that one to win against Orlando last year was not a good thing for his overall game, I think.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 20, 2010, 12:32:03 AM
[youtube=560,345]0ZlYo-6VEXc[/youtube]

not so much a dunk as career assassination, gottam
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 20, 2010, 12:45:45 AM
jesus, the fucking sound of that dunk is incredible
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 20, 2010, 02:22:10 AM
Good Denver Utah game.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Bacchus7 on April 20, 2010, 02:28:04 AM
Korver's out of his mind right now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 20, 2010, 02:40:35 AM
Utah continues to impress me.  Could have a really good series!  Maybe 7 games?  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 20, 2010, 10:54:27 PM
Miami is pure trash
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 21, 2010, 01:37:13 AM
All the talk today was how Miami was going to steal homecourt advantage because the Celtics didn't have Garnett. 106-77 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 21, 2010, 02:02:00 AM
LOL @ LA fans chanting MVP

easily the most ignorant, delusional fans in the league

I'm embarrassed to be a life-long Los Angelean. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 21, 2010, 02:26:31 AM
Wow, didn't know that Westbrook has such crazy hops, maybe even comparable to Shannon Brown
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 21, 2010, 02:32:36 AM
That's the series. Good game though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 21, 2010, 02:33:19 AM
the lakers are dropping confetti in the first round?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 21, 2010, 02:34:04 AM
fuck da lakers
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 21, 2010, 02:35:06 AM
At least Durant shut up all the people calling him overrated.  That's all I was hearing on the radio show while driving home.  SMH, LA fans say the stupidest things.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2010, 03:47:48 AM
At least Durant shut up all the people calling him overrated.  That's all I was hearing on the radio show while driving home.  SMH, LA fans say the stupidest things.

32 points off 26 shots, plus 8 turnovers? Looked like a bust to me
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 21, 2010, 03:54:08 AM
Kobe's not even MVP of his own team.  He put them in that hole to begin with.  Lakers would be fucking dead if they didn't have Gasol.  You know jack shit about basketball.  Judging by your pics, you can't play either.  I'm up for 1 on 1 anytime you're back home.  I'll spot you 9 points in a game to 11 since you're a fellow EBer.  It's the only way you'd score. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 21, 2010, 04:03:22 AM
Kobe's not even MVP of his own team. 

*exits internet*
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 21, 2010, 04:10:51 AM
Obviously, Kobe can't be blamed totally for those guys shooting badly but he has to take some responsibility for throwing the offense out of rhythm by taking so many shots while shooting such a low FG%.  You could just tell that Kobe was intent on being the hero after having a shit game last time.  Even people who like Kobe way more than me saw that.  Like Barkley said, Kobe should have made the game easier for himself and his teammates. Kinda strange, innit, that people still say that stuff about Kobe after all those years of experience?

Kobe's not even MVP of his own team.

*exits internet*

I'm gonna be like GS and ask if you've seen the Lakers play recently.  'cause if you did, you should have known that Gasol has contributed more to the Lakers in the last couple of weeks. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 21, 2010, 04:13:06 AM
ITT: if you chant "MVP" for your star, and his name isn't Lebron James, you're ignorant and delusional.  :lol

It's not so much about Kobe vs Lebron.  I'm just disgusted that Lakers fans are so intent on giving all the credit to Kobe even when he clearly isn't the main reason for their success.  Like Mandark said, most Lakers fans are really just Kobe fans nowadays.  I, for one, can't wait for his era to be over just so that I can cheer for the Lakers again. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 21, 2010, 04:24:08 AM
I'd have agreed with you on Gasol even a year ago but now I'm not quite sure.  There just aren't that many big men that can compete today with Gasol @ both ends.   Gasol is possibly the most complete big man right now.  I saw him completely dominate Duncan this year and that has never, ever happened before.  Duncan could neither stop Pau nor get his own shot off.  Even in his declined state, Duncan is still easily among the top 5 PF/C.  If you can outplay Duncan like that, then you're good enough to be the man on a championship team. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 21, 2010, 06:46:41 PM
Why the hell do people not like Mark Cuban?  He's on PTI right now and he seems hysterical, as well as pretty intelligent regarding sports management.  Malek, I forget, what do you think of him?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 21, 2010, 11:31:31 PM
Cuban is willing to spend to make a winning team. He speaks his mind when a lot of owners pussy out. He is also a fan and any loud fan is annoying. I think the obnoxious fan part of him is why he gets hate.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 21, 2010, 11:34:32 PM
I give him a lot of kudos for making mostly smart moves, not blowing up a team when most owners would have given up, and generally being a disruptive but progressive force. He's doing some really good work to improve refereeing that the League is going to have to confront at some point.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 22, 2010, 12:50:35 AM
holy shit mavs
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 22, 2010, 01:14:56 AM
holy shit mavs  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 22, 2010, 03:32:48 AM
Malek is probably on the floor soiled by tears and alcohol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 22, 2010, 03:42:45 AM
he's probably hiring a sniper for carlisle
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 22, 2010, 10:32:30 PM
fucking cavs, letting a .500 team beat you
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 22, 2010, 10:38:47 PM
Cavs losing right now is a good thing for them.  It'll wake the team up and let them realize that they can't win with Lebron playing 1 on 5 in every game. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 22, 2010, 10:43:50 PM
Well, even right now they're realizing that.  Mo stepping up!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 22, 2010, 10:46:43 PM
*sigh*
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 22, 2010, 10:47:49 PM
Lebron is right up there with Wilt and Jordan as the greatest one man team of all time.

L. James 39 Pts, 10 Reb, 8 Ast, 2 Stl, 3 Bl

Insane!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on April 22, 2010, 10:49:24 PM
Too bad he's still playing with a bunch of wishy-washy scrubs.

Magic in 6
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 22, 2010, 10:49:33 PM
Cavs would've won if :

a) refs would've disregarded that first FT by Miller
b) had one more time out
c) they weren't asleep in the first half
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 22, 2010, 10:52:28 PM
The Cav's lack of athleticism has been exposed yet again.  They need to slow it down and just pound quicker teams with their superior bulk. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 22, 2010, 10:54:54 PM
I still pick the Cavs to emerge from the East but last year sort of showed what happens when they turn into the Lebron Show. It can be pretty ugly.  
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 22, 2010, 10:57:50 PM
Actually I've always had lots of respect for Pippen but I'm just talking about individual dominance and not overall team success.  
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 22, 2010, 11:09:42 PM
Someone gave David Lee a DPOY vote this year.  :rofl

Not first place but still it's ridiculous. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 22, 2010, 11:10:39 PM
Andrea Bargnani got one too! Surely this is irony.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 22, 2010, 11:18:17 PM
Are the Thunder out yet?

:piss Clay Clay :piss2
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 23, 2010, 12:57:44 AM
Durant shutting down Kobe.  :teehee
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 23, 2010, 01:06:28 AM
Oklahoma city still could easily choke away this game...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 23, 2010, 01:11:43 AM
Regardless if the Thunder win this or not, you have to be pretty impressed with how they've played the Lakers.  Close for most of the series so far, especially the last two games.  Bright future for this team.  And damn their fans are awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 23, 2010, 01:20:14 AM
Good game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 23, 2010, 01:21:37 AM
Man, ESPN is going to be gross tomorrow.

ARE THE TWO BEST TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE GOING TO LOSE THE FIRST ROUND????????????
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 23, 2010, 01:33:52 AM
OMG Westbrook killed Odom on that 2nd quarter dunk!  Easily the dunk of the playoffs so far.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 23, 2010, 01:34:33 AM
top of page 4  :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 23, 2010, 01:35:53 AM
No way, man, this one was even more ridiculous.  At least with Bron's dunk, you could kinda see it coming. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 23, 2010, 01:37:08 AM
Yeah I have to see it again, I only saw it on replay real quick after it happened.

edit: his fast-break dunk was pretty as well
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Ganhyun on April 23, 2010, 03:12:24 PM
I'd like to see the Hawks make it to the Finals, but I doubt they get past Cleveland if they make it that far.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 23, 2010, 03:14:16 PM
Poor Odom.  :'(

(http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/l1bv5m-l1bv6310okc3odom.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 24, 2010, 06:35:37 AM
useless mavs!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 24, 2010, 08:08:51 AM
sigh

Dirk had another great game (and somehow he made Ginobili's nose look worse), yet his coach and teammates didn't show up--again.

Dirk's '09-10 Playoff Stats
32 PPG, 8 RPG, 3 APG, 56 FG%, 100 3PT%, 96 FT%

Terry, Butler, and Marion are all shooting under 40%. Kidd is shooting under 30%. Dampier is shooting 0%!

Marion 7 points and 3 boards a game?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Green Shinobi on April 24, 2010, 08:16:39 AM
Dirk >>>>> Lebron.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 24, 2010, 03:18:12 PM
lol okay
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2010, 03:25:56 PM
Dirk >>>>> Lebron.

How come he doesn't make his teammates better :smug
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 24, 2010, 07:13:35 PM
Brandon Roy is playing for Portland today.

A little bit at least.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 25, 2010, 12:20:22 AM
Lakers getting worked tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 25, 2010, 12:54:27 AM
Screw the Mavs, I'm going all in with OKC now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 25, 2010, 01:00:33 AM
OKC Thunder :rock
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ManaByte on April 25, 2010, 02:56:41 AM
Oh fuck. If the Lakers lose this series there will be riots.

But if they win there will be riots.

I fucking hate LA sports "fans".
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 25, 2010, 03:53:16 PM
Nasty ass Wade dunk.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 25, 2010, 04:10:12 PM
Wade

 :bow
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 25, 2010, 06:43:15 PM
LEBRON  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 25, 2010, 07:46:03 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FtCpOs9EcY[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 25, 2010, 07:57:10 PM
Wade's playoff number averages versus the celtics.

33.8 pts FG% 60% 3pt FG% 43% 1.8 stl 1.5 blk  5rebs 6 ast
 :bow2
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 25, 2010, 08:37:55 PM
That was sad how KG just tried to get out of the way but wasn't even quick enough to do that.  It was even sadder than Bron's dunk on him two years ago.  Maybe KG should consider retiring or becoming a reserve. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 25, 2010, 10:35:49 PM
KG is no longer a shot-blocker, that's for sure. It's a shame he wasted his legs playing ridiculous minutes in meaningless games for shitty teams.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 25, 2010, 10:50:01 PM
Mavs  :lol

only 17 points for Dirk with his team on the brink. He'll never be a winner :smug
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 27, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
(http://www.gifsoup.com/view/389917/bron-o.gif)

Yes, GAF is actually upset about this.  The Lebron hate is just fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 27, 2010, 03:03:42 PM
They're idiots. Who cares.

Tonight is a pretty big game. I fully expect the Lakers to win the next 2 games and close out the series but you know there will be a lot of tension and excitement even for an LA crowd.

I had a funny thought as I was watching a couple of games last night. It was that this is the best the NBA has been since the mid and late 80's when you had Jordan come in and still the old guard established stars like Bird and Magic. etc around. It really has been a renaissance. Team play still isn't as good as it was but you have the highest amount of legit superstars playing that I can remember in awhile.

They even shoot legit FG%'s which is always a good shorthand barometer for the quality of the game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 27, 2010, 09:10:23 PM
Lebron only has 3 points in the first half  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 27, 2010, 09:40:00 PM
They're idiots. Who cares.

Tonight is a pretty big game. I fully expect the Lakers to win the next 2 games and close out the series but you know there will be a lot of tension and excitement even for an LA crowd.

I had a funny thought as I was watching a couple of games last night. It was that this is the best the NBA has been since the mid and late 80's when you had Jordan come in and still the old guard established stars like Bird and Magic. etc around. It really has been a renaissance. Team play still isn't as good as it was but you have the highest amount of legit superstars playing that I can remember in awhile.

They even shoot legit FG%'s which is always a good shorthand barometer for the quality of the game.

Too bad the NFL draft still got better ratings.  :'(

Americans are idiots.  NFL is good but not that good. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 27, 2010, 10:07:26 PM
These shaq fouls are lame.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 27, 2010, 10:08:59 PM
Tell me about it.  What do the refs want the Bulls to do to defend him?  Lay down?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 27, 2010, 10:39:30 PM
One of these years my Blazers are going to do something more than first round. It will be a year they don't have 300+ combined missed games due to injuries. I guess it makes sense Brandon is playing even though he's not 100% because, fuck it, he has the off season to recover.

I read that the reason athletes often come back so quick from meniscus injuries is that they opt to just remove the meniscus entirely. Which is fine, you can live without it, you're just going to be playing basically bone-on-bone for the rest of your career. I sincerely hope this is not what happened with Brandon (and Chris Paul), but I'm concerned.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 27, 2010, 11:21:29 PM
Lakers are crushing. I sort of expected this.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 27, 2010, 11:25:21 PM
Yeah, it's a lot to ask of a young team to go to Staples and kick ass when everyone thinks they've exceeded expectations already. The crowd obviously buoyed them a lot in gms 3 and 4. Who knows, though - they could rebound in gm 5 with their backs to the wall.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 27, 2010, 11:37:27 PM
Fisher :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 27, 2010, 11:41:09 PM
Yeah, it's a lot to ask of a young team to go to Staples and kick ass when everyone thinks they've exceeded expectations already. The crowd obviously buoyed them a lot in gms 3 and 4. Who knows, though - they could rebound in gm 5 with their backs to the wall.

Also, the DJ for the biggest sports station in LA was saying there's no way that the NBA would let the Lakers lose game 5.  It's kinda sad but there's probably some truth to that theory.  You never hear that kinda stuff about the other sports. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 27, 2010, 11:51:02 PM
Well, maybe. I'm not watching the game but apparently Kobe is on Westbrook this time? I dunno if Kobe can do that for very long but it HAS to be better than watching Fisher get cooked alive.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 28, 2010, 12:50:17 AM
They are legit getting their asses kicked. The Lakers are simply playing much better. I think everybody knew those two games prior weren't indicative of the Lakers as a whole.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 28, 2010, 08:20:08 AM
I do think OKC can extend it to a 7 game series though–they're pretty dynamite at home.  Even if they don't win...still pretty fucking amazing for them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2010, 12:56:24 AM
Dirk is a loser and will never win anything in the NBA. He doesn't dominate when his team needs him to.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 30, 2010, 02:29:08 AM
REKE ROOK YEAR
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 30, 2010, 10:34:11 AM
I've always said the Mavericks are just an incorrectly built team for the playoffs. Cuban spends a lot of money but they haven't been able to assemble a proper squad that works for playoff basketball. They are an entertaining squad but not a high percentage basketball squad.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 30, 2010, 10:47:00 AM
Tyreke Evans is very talented, and deserves the ROY, but I honestly can't see any team built around him being all that successful. He needs the ball in his hands all the time to win, so the ceiling would appear to be the 2001 Philadelphia 76ers. I say all this as a former Kings fan.  Maybe he becomes a Wade-type talent and proves me wrong but I'm not all that optimistic. At the very least, he needs a lot more help than he has right now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 30, 2010, 11:25:02 AM
Dirk is a loser and will never win anything in the NBA. He doesn't dominate when his team needs him to.

Didn't Dirk score 25 points in the second half of an elimination game? He averaged 27/8/3 for the series while shooting 55% from the floor.

Honestly, Who played better: Dirk's cast or Duncan's? If Dirk shot 48% from the freethrow line, he'd never hear the end of it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 30, 2010, 11:29:43 AM
I've always said the Mavericks are just an incorrectly built team for the playoffs. Cuban spends a lot of money but they haven't been able to assemble a proper squad that works for playoff basketball. They are an entertaining squad but not a high percentage basketball squad.

That's probably correct. Cuban goes after the best talent available, even if it doesn't necessarily fit with the existing team. The worst example is when he picked up both Jamison and Walker, even though the team already had Dirk.

They're really not that entertaining anymore, and haven't been since Nash left.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on April 30, 2010, 06:00:13 PM
Tyreke Evans is very talented, and deserves the ROY, but I honestly can't see any team built around him being all that successful. He needs the ball in his hands all the time to win, so the ceiling would appear to be the 2001 Philadelphia 76ers. I say all this as a former Kings fan.  Maybe he becomes a Wade-type talent and proves me wrong but I'm not all that optimistic. At the very least, he needs a lot more help than he has right now.

That is my worry as well. I worry he's a Gilbert Arenas type. I think his lack of ability to drive and dunk, lack of explosion to the rim and tendency towards a power game over a quickness game will limit him. He has no off the ball game, no outside shot and no awareness of players around him. If you build around that, you'll never make it pass the first round. The only hope is that he improves the outside shot and learns how to move without the ball so he can be used like a Roy/Wade. I don't think he has the vision to ever be a distributor.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 30, 2010, 06:05:14 PM
I think Tyreke's ceiling is about Brandon Roy's level, which is still great but not quite enough to win a championship without an excellent supporting cast.  Like etiolate, he just doesn't have the athleticism or vision to be an elite player like Wade. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2010, 06:05:29 PM
Dirk is a loser and will never win anything in the NBA. He doesn't dominate when his team needs him to.

Didn't Dirk score 25 points in the second half of an elimination game? He averaged 27/8/3 for the series while shooting 55% from the floor.

Honestly, Who played better: Dirk's cast or Duncan's? If Dirk shot 48% from the freethrow line, he'd never hear the end of it.


Not good enough  :violin
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on April 30, 2010, 06:11:46 PM
Dirk is a loser and will never win anything in the NBA. He doesn't dominate when his team needs him to.

Didn't Dirk score 25 points in the second half of an elimination game? He averaged 27/8/3 for the series while shooting 55% from the floor.

Honestly, Who played better: Dirk's cast or Duncan's? If Dirk shot 48% from the freethrow line, he'd never hear the end of it.


Not good enough  :violin

You sound like those dummies who thought that Lebron was the cause of the Cavs' downfall last year. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2010, 06:14:44 PM
Nah, I just think Dirk is a class A choker on a team not built for the playoffs, and he'll never win anything in the NBA.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 30, 2010, 06:18:16 PM
The Mavs lost last night because Jason Terry and Jason Kidd went 2 for 13 and both their centers barely had any presence at all. But I guess Dirk should have scored 44 points and single-handedly won the game for the team, like a REAL superstar.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 30, 2010, 08:38:13 PM
Bucks - Hawks - who ya got!

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Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 30, 2010, 11:36:55 PM
Game has all the signs of a Lakers win tonight. Bryant having a great game. Durant having an awful game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 30, 2010, 11:39:07 PM
Kobe just made the badger face! look out!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 30, 2010, 11:56:50 PM
If Durant ever makes a jump shot, I feel like the Thunder could still win this. Kobe is not going to win this all by himself, but he's gonna try. And credit Durant for getting to the line.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2010, 12:09:32 AM
Gotta give em credit. Not going down without a fight.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 01, 2010, 12:13:25 AM
Westbrook is studly.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2010, 12:16:08 AM
Bullshit fisher screen.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2010, 12:18:35 AM
Lakers win.
 
 :smug
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 01, 2010, 12:24:18 AM
Tough loss for the Thunder - Ibaka just didn't box out Gasol after doing a great job most of the series. The Lakers and the rest of the west should be very very scared of these guys next season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2010, 12:27:40 AM
It's unfortunate but the Thunder didn't execute on offense those last few trips down the court. They just held the ball at the top of the key and stood around until hoisting up a last second shot. The Coach should have had them a bit more prepared than that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 01, 2010, 12:30:32 AM
Thunder had a great season this year, far better than I think anyone thought they'd be able to pull off. I can't wait until next season to see what happens.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2010, 12:33:57 AM
It will be interesting to see if other teams are able to find a guy to defend Kobe. This is the first time I can remember a series off the top of my head where just dumping the ball into Kobe's hands in the 4th quarter and letting him go didn't really accomplish much on a series basis.

I'm not sure if its a sign of Kobe just getting old. Durant bothering him a lot by being so long and quick. Or a combination of the two.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 01, 2010, 12:52:19 AM
God damn, what was Durant in FGs this game? 4-50?

5-23. He went 14-15 on free throws though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 01, 2010, 12:52:53 AM
God damn, what was Durant in FGs this game? 4-50?

5 of 23.

He definitely struggled mightily tonight. He was forcing a lot of stuff.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 02, 2010, 03:31:15 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21069062&postcount=12438 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21069062&postcount=12438)

wahhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 07, 2010, 06:15:53 PM
Big game tonight. Lot of pressure on the Cavs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 07, 2010, 06:53:50 PM
I think the Cavs will be okay – they'll at least steal one of the games in Boston, and that's just fine.  I knew that Cavs would have a hard playoff run this year, unlike their two round sweep last year.  Oddly enough, I feel like the roles have reversed for Cleveland and Orlando – and I think it's to Cleveland's benefit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 07, 2010, 07:23:06 PM
What
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 07, 2010, 07:27:49 PM
Orlando destroying these buttfuck easy teams only to face one tremendous team and possibly get shocked into a long series.  Happened to the Cavs last year, I could see it happening to the Magic this year–either with the Cavs OR the Celtics.

On the other hand, Cleveland has had two losses so far in the playoffs, and after the first loss they came back and destroyed Chicago.  Probably not enough to see a pattern developing, but I think Cleveland takes tonight's game regardless.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 07, 2010, 07:35:21 PM
Well, Cleveland are a far better team so the odds are pretty good they'll take any given game, especially with LeBron's elbow better. The Celtics look beat already - lots of slumping and frowny faces on the bench.

I don't get the parallels with last season, sorry. Both the Cavs and the Magic have had multiple seasons of destroying chumps at this point, they know the difference in difficulty between playing the Bulls and playing the Lakers.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 07, 2010, 07:35:53 PM
I think the Magic almost have to blow out everyone to win in these playoffs. I don't see anyone on that team that can finish out a close game for them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 07, 2010, 07:43:21 PM
Depends on whether Howard is in foul trouble, really. If he  only has 2 or 3 in the 4th, they can play exactly like they do in the 1st. You do have a point that no-one other than Howard can really get to the line, and he can't make them. But they're an unconventional team - they win plenty of close games with the 3pt shot.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 07, 2010, 07:53:32 PM
I think the Magic almost have to blow out everyone to win in these playoffs. I don't see anyone on that team that can finish out a close game for them.

Expanding on Cormac's post, did you watch any of the Eastern Conference Finals last year when they played the Cavs?  The first few games were exceedingly close, and the Magic would win with clutch threes from Pietrus, Lewis, and Turkeyglue.  They aren't that much different this year, only TurkeyGlue is gone and Vince Carter has been great in sealing the deal so far this playoff season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 07, 2010, 07:57:51 PM
And they're only "clutch" because they happened to come late in the game - those were high percentage shots that those guys were hitting all season on the same set-ups, not off-balance heaves by Kobe at the end of the shot clock.

And btw :bow LeBron :bow2

Simply not human
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Brehvolution on May 07, 2010, 08:12:57 PM
I never thought I would see anyone better than Jordan, but Lebron is fucking amazing. He just needs 6 rings to prove it to me.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 07, 2010, 08:14:01 PM
I think the Magic almost have to blow out everyone to win in these playoffs. I don't see anyone on that team that can finish out a close game for them.

Expanding on Cormac's post, did you watch any of the Eastern Conference Finals last year when they played the Cavs?  The first few games were exceedingly close, and the Magic would win with clutch threes from Pietrus, Lewis, and Turkeyglue.  They aren't that much different this year, only TurkeyGlue is gone and Vince Carter has been great in sealing the deal so far this playoff season.

Yeah, I watched. That's why I think they lack it now because Hedo was the guy setting those threes up, and when that failed he managed to make space to get his midrange shot. Rashard can nail that corner three, but he still needs to be set up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 07, 2010, 08:32:29 PM
Hedo is no genius playmaker, as has been adequately demonstrated by his tenure in Toronto. If Howard is on the floor and kicking ass, someone will be open for a three.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 07, 2010, 08:33:44 PM
Fuck, I thought the Cavs were on TNT tonight again...I've had Bones on for like the past three hours before I realized it was half-time on ESPN  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 07, 2010, 08:34:38 PM
I never thought I would see anyone better than Jordan, but Lebron is fucking amazing. He just needs 6 rings to prove it to me.

Impossibly high standard. I'm not seeing Scottie Pippen or Phil Jackson out there.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Brehvolution on May 07, 2010, 09:57:15 PM
The knicks will sign Lebron and Nowvitski next season.

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Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 07, 2010, 11:51:49 PM
just watch them blow it all on Joe Johnson and Carlos Boozer or somesuch

I'm a bit scared at the prospect of Bosh to the Lakers. He has some nice options. Houston could also really work for him, but it would be tough to turn down LA, and getting Bynum is by far the best option I can see for Toronto.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 07, 2010, 11:59:34 PM
This Dragic fellow is a fucking stud
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 08, 2010, 01:39:26 AM
lol I headed downstairs to read, assuming the Spurs were on their way to a blowout of the Los Suns. Wow
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 09, 2010, 05:58:11 PM
Cavs completely falling apart.

It's hard to honestly see this as a championship squad.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 09, 2010, 06:07:45 PM
Maybe spoke too soon...


Closing the gap now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 09, 2010, 06:11:59 PM
Boston is a tough out, but the Cavs are the better team. This was always going to be a long series, as will be the one with Orlando (and they might lose THAT one).
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 09, 2010, 06:16:18 PM
It amazes how dogshit the cavs offense can look at times.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 09, 2010, 06:22:17 PM
Rondo

27 pts  18 Rebs 13 Ast  2 stl

 :bow2
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 09, 2010, 06:22:52 PM
Mo Williams has been exposed again, can barely penetrate anyway, forgets how to shoot in the playoffs. He barely handles the ball either so he has the easiest point guard job in the league; even then he barely contributes other than opening the door for Rondo, Rose etc.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 09, 2010, 06:38:27 PM
Mo is a terrible playoff player.  We need West in more.  And just overall the Cavs need to hit their threes.  They had NOTHING going on today.  They're so inconsistent  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: T234 on May 09, 2010, 06:39:07 PM
Rondo

27 pts  18 Rebs 13 Ast  2 stl

 :bow2


WHERE OH WHERE DID HE PLAY HIS COLLEGE BALL?

<-----------OH YEAH BITCHEZ
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 09, 2010, 06:54:58 PM
Quote from: some gaf moron
Lebron had that "amazing" game but really a human can only be so focused only so much. It seems he expends all this emotional and physical energy in having these "statement" games (where he takes over) like the last one and then he'll have something like this: he plays a decent game but nothing too great.

He needs to be consistently good over three games, not great/decent/great. Stop being such a media panderer (its great to watch but you have to think how many crazy athletic plays he can do in such a short time) and learn to play a consistent game like Kobe or Wade. I think it would put less stress on his body and let him have energy for a big play whenever he needs it.

Laker fans are the fucking worst.  Do people not remember Kobe JUST had a single digit game, like, a week ago?

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 09, 2010, 08:19:40 PM
what did LeBron end up with, 24-8-8, something like that? If Derek Rose had a line like that, it would lead ESPN.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 09, 2010, 08:22:27 PM
holy shit @ that Rondo pass
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 09, 2010, 08:35:22 PM
what did LeBron end up with, 24-8-8, something like that? If Derek Rose had a line like that, it would lead ESPN.

22-9-8 I think
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 09, 2010, 09:24:54 PM
what did LeBron end up with, 24-8-8, something like that? If Derek Rose had a line like that, it would lead ESPN.

22-9-8 I think

And the guy he's guarding (Pierce) is averaging 12pts in this series. Yeah, tonight may not have been a dominant performance or anything, but blaming him for this loss is stoopid. The other team is pretty fuckin' good, easily good enough to bloody the Cavs badly before they move on. I don't think they're going to win though - the Big 3 are a joke compared to what they used to be. They'll have good nights individually but the chance of all 3 of them going off at once is pretty much nonexistent now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 09, 2010, 10:40:15 PM
Pierce hasn't been making shots regardless.  Methinks they should put Lebron on Rondo.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 09, 2010, 10:42:56 PM
At this point I'd rather have Boobie Gibson playing over Mo. I'll take my chances on 5 more turnovers a game for the clutch 3's that Gibson can provide. Mo couldn't even hit free throws down the stretch.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 09, 2010, 10:44:06 PM
If LeBron could shut down Rondo, I'd be ready to call him the greatest defensive small forward of all time I think. Maybe for a few possessions here and there - a whole game would be madness. If LeBron gets in foul trouble, the Cavs are screwed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 09, 2010, 10:49:52 PM
Spurs lose, return to assisted living homes you fogeys!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 09, 2010, 10:57:17 PM
Glad to see the Suns get that monkey off their back. I think they can give the Lakers plenty thanks to their tougher bench, but their centers are so woeful I just can't pick them to win it. The Collins brothers need to leave the NBA for the good of the entire viewing public.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 09, 2010, 11:51:17 PM
The Lakers definitely look beatable, I think.  I think It'll be the Suns in 6 or 7.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 09, 2010, 11:57:48 PM
You're letting your Lakers hate blind you. You can book the Lakers in the finals already. And honestly if the Cavs keep playing the way they have I favor the Lakers if the Cavs even get that far.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 10, 2010, 12:02:08 AM
The only way you can beat the Lakers in a 7 game series is defense. Utah has made this series competitive because of this and the Rockets were able to push them to 7 last year.

If you can't get stops on the Lakers in the 4th Q, you're not winning. Unless Kobe plays selfish and beats himself (which happens from time to time).

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 10, 2010, 12:05:27 AM
You're letting your Lakers hate blind you. You can book the Lakers in the finals already. And honestly if the Cavs keep playing the way they have I favor the Lakers if the Cavs even get that far.

Yeah I guess.  The Magic or the Lakers definitely look to be the favorites so far, based purely on their amount of losses (or lack of) and the point differential on the games they win.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 10, 2010, 01:09:28 AM
You know, once upon a time, the thought of Kobe vs Vince Carter in the Finals would have seemed like a ratings wet dream. It would be a complete afterthought if we actually get a Magic-Lakers Finals now of course.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 11, 2010, 10:38:39 PM
And the Cavs toss out another stinker. Not especially surprising. I honestly favored Boston after the previous game.

Mike Brown is so fired.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 11, 2010, 10:48:16 PM
Magic-Lakers finals? Kind of my nightmare scenario but they're playing the best at this point. Anything could still happen though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 11, 2010, 10:53:21 PM
Fucking hell, Boston in 6 for sure now.  :-\

Mike Brown needs his ass canned.  Terrible coach.  Ilgauskas plays for nearly the entirely game...fucking what
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ToxicAdam on May 11, 2010, 10:59:06 PM
Celtics are just a better defensive team, period. Unless the Cavs shoot the lights out the next two games, this one is done.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 11, 2010, 11:07:02 PM
Celtics are just a better defensive team, period. Unless the Cavs shoot the lights out the next two games, this one is done.


Well, they are now. For most of the season, they were horrible and the Cavs were much better. This must be shocking to Cavs fans. Mo Williams campaigning for an All-Star spot gets more :lol-worthy every day 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 11, 2010, 11:08:44 PM
The Cavs just aren't built right. Even if they do come back to win this series, there is something just fundamentally flawed about the squad.

And picking up Shaq was a very shortsighted move to try to counter Orlando come the conference finals. The problem is they may not even make it that far.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 11, 2010, 11:19:42 PM
Somebody said recently (and I agree) that the Cavs are a bunch of 6s playing with a 10 who makes them look like 8s most of the time. Well, I hope the Cavs aren't toast like everyone says - we deserve ONE Game 7, goddamnit! Hawks-Bucks doesn't count.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 11, 2010, 11:58:26 PM
The Lakers really hit the jackpot in this playoffs.

A frisky but ultimately too young to challenge Thunder in the first round.
A game but short handed Jazz in the second round.
Another frisky but ultimately limited squad in the Suns.

The finals will be the first series where they get tested.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 12, 2010, 12:00:09 AM
Well, they are now. For most of the season, they were horrible and the Cavs were much better. This must be shocking to Cavs fans. Mo Williams campaigning for an All-Star spot gets more :lol-worthy every day 

This just highlights why the NBA sucks - nobody plays during the regular season anymore. Veterans freely admit they don't "try" until the playoffs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 12, 2010, 12:03:11 AM
Well, they are now. For most of the season, they were horrible and the Cavs were much better. This must be shocking to Cavs fans. Mo Williams campaigning for an All-Star spot gets more :lol-worthy every day 

This just highlights why the NBA sucks - nobody plays during the regular season anymore. Veterans freely admit they don't "try" until the playoffs.

I'll take the NBA over coma inducing baseball any day of the week.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 12, 2010, 12:04:23 AM
Well, the teams on the bubble try, but generally I agree about the effort level. Most players are only roused by a personal rivalry or the chance to steal a march on a division rival etc. I'm still plenty entertained during the regular season, even though there are far too many games.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 12, 2010, 12:07:54 AM
I'll take the NBA over coma inducing baseball any day of the week.

Your loss!

Quote from: Cormacaroni
Well, the teams on the bubble try, but generally I agree about the effort level. Most players are only roused by a personal rivalry or the chance to steal a march on a division rival etc. I'm still plenty entertained during the regular season, even though there are far too many games.

I'm just sick and tired of teams loading up with veterans that phone it in until the playoffs. I think this is exacerbated by the fact that half the NBA makes the playoffs, so a lot of veterans don't even feel the need to try.

I say reduce the playoff teams, and reduce the games. Make these guys play in the regular season. As is, the regular season is pointless.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 12, 2010, 12:14:45 AM
I had thought Lebron would stay in Cleveland and all these salary dumping teams would end up with overpaid scrubs, but if they lose to the Celtics then I don't see his reasons for staying.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 12, 2010, 12:17:50 AM
If they lose in anything but the finals I can't see him staying.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 12, 2010, 01:29:35 AM
He has some very very attractive options: Miami, Chicago, New York...all have a lot to offer.

Not sure why LA is considered a possible destination for Bosh (via sign and trade for Bynum) but not for LeBron? Obviously Kobe would feel challenged (he apparently resents Gasol more than a little) but if he could be made to see sense, man oh man, what a team that would be.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2010, 02:28:15 AM
Seems like most people here thought the Celtics were done a few days ago, as did I. The big three are old and it seems like only one of them shoots lights out a game, but overall the team plays some stingy defense.

LeBron and Wade on the same team would be sweet. Honestly I'd like to see him stay in Cleavland.


and I'll agree with Willco. NCAA tournament shits on the NBA playoffs
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 12, 2010, 02:35:22 AM
Yeah, this year for sure.  The playoffs last year were pretty great, though.  Chicago/Boston's series last year was incredible.

I obviously want Lebron to stay in Cleveland, and honestly I don't really see him having many options other than Miami if he were to leave.  Whether people want it or not, Lebron going to the Bulls invites the comparison that I'm sure neither Lebron nor Jordan want, not to mention severely undercutting Derrick Rose's leadership role.  As for the Knicks, why on God's green Earth would Lebron go to a terrible team that will absolutely need another two years to rebuild around Lebron, only to find himself in almost the exact position Cleveland is in now?  He wants a championship A.S.A.P., and his best chances are with already established teams (Cleveland or Miami).  Wade has already made it clear that for him to stay in Miami, he needs some better vets around him, and has openly campaigned for Lebron possibly coming down.  That is really the only situation I can see happening if Lebron decides to leave.

But to be honest, if the Cavs lose, I think there's a much better chance of Mike Brown getting canned (thank christ) than Lebron leaving.  As for if they win, I have no clue.

edit: Also, I changed my mind.  This current series goes 7 games, as I called it earlier in the playoffs.  The Cavs play the best when under the most pressure, especially Lebron.  Not to mention they're one of the best road teams in the league.  But for Christ's sake, Brown, stop giving pity minutes to Z – JJ Hickson all fucking night.  Keep your starting line-up the same (maybe swap Mo for West), then if pressure points are needed, put in Lebron, Hickson, Gibson, Jamison, and West/Mo/maybe Moon if the occasion calls for him.  Brown is such a terrible coach.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2010, 02:38:48 AM
Any talk/chance of LeBron going to Boston?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 12, 2010, 02:40:33 AM
Oh God Cleveland would mass suicide if that were to happen.  I don't see that being a viable option though – I think there's a little too much hate between the teams, Lebron and Allen especially.

edit: of course if Lebron sees enough ones and zeros, who knows.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 12, 2010, 11:01:19 AM
Quote
As for the Knicks, why on God's green Earth would Lebron go to a terrible team that will absolutely need another two years to rebuild around Lebron
http://nymag.com/news/sports/lebron/

:teehee
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 12, 2010, 11:13:22 AM
Cleveland has a lot to offer.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN0WqSeCKW8[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2010, 11:18:25 AM
Cleveland has a lot to offer.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN0WqSeCKW8[/youtube]


"It's okay, I have my friends, I don't care."

 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 12, 2010, 01:04:16 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2010, 12:41:35 PM
Tonight's game should be very interesting...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 13, 2010, 12:53:26 PM
ESPN sure is hyping this while creating a "is LeBron mentally done?" narrative, of course after overplaying the "is LeBron still injured?" narrative not too long ago. He had one bad game. The game before was pretty amazing, but since it wasn't 40 points or something the media dismissed it.

Stuff like this makes me glad I don't have cable
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2010, 12:56:03 PM
Sports Media is even more low grade than the already bad traditional media. They are completely about manufacturing narratives.


That being said none of that is needed for tonights game. This is a legit potentially career changing game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 13, 2010, 01:18:43 PM
Anyone who thinks Lebron has been purposefully tanking the last game and this coming game is fucking idiotic – tonight is going to be a close game because Lebron is going to go off tonight.  He can't have two back to back terrible games.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2010, 01:22:01 PM
Anyone who thinks Lebron has been purposefully tanking the last game and this coming game is fucking idiotic

I don't think anyone (with a brain) really believes anything like that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 13, 2010, 01:30:30 PM
GAF.

edit: oh, heh, with a brain.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 13, 2010, 02:18:22 PM
He looked frustrated. Guarding Rondo was also a bad idea. Rondo going to torch anyone for multiple games. Pierce on the other hand can and will. I didn't see the entire game, did they even make the defensive adjustment? If not chalk that up as another reason why Brown needs to go
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 13, 2010, 02:39:34 PM
Not really.  I thought Lebron should've guarded Rondo for the first quarter and than possibly if he got hot in the second half, but nothing else.  Pierce ended up getting fairly hot, so Lebron should've gone back to him.  The one that killed them was Allen, he fucking made it rain.  Someone has to step up to guard him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 13, 2010, 08:49:18 PM
getting dunked on by Grandpa RayRay

smh
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 13, 2010, 08:54:19 PM
"offense by accident" JVG just coined the name for the Mike Brown offensive scheme.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 13, 2010, 08:57:27 PM
burn  :'(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 13, 2010, 09:11:19 PM
first cavs lead :usavich
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 13, 2010, 09:21:45 PM
tony allen, hoooooooly shit
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2010, 10:22:42 PM
Wave goodbye to Lebron Cleveland.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2010, 10:26:45 PM
lol Lebron is teasing Cleveland fans. Wait until he does this against you for the Knicks next year.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 13, 2010, 10:32:09 PM
ugh, so clumsy
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2010, 10:37:50 PM
Pathetic.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 13, 2010, 10:37:58 PM
Bron' just stood there as Garnett presented his nuts
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 13, 2010, 10:38:50 PM
This is all so fucking pathetic.  Cleveland is cancer.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2010, 10:40:15 PM
This is exactly the same squad that got crushed last year with the exact same offense. Their offense is garbage.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2010, 10:46:50 PM
Crowd is chanting New York Knicks.


Cold Blooded.

 :smug
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2010, 10:53:26 PM
:rofl the cavs
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2010, 10:54:45 PM
lebron didn't storm off the court :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 13, 2010, 10:55:09 PM
Crowd is chanting New York Knicks.


Cold Blooded.

 :smug
:lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 13, 2010, 10:55:42 PM
They just gave up with a minute still to play. Did Mike Brown make that call? I mean wtf.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2010, 10:56:27 PM
every year once the Jazz lose i always root for the least media friendly finals matchup.  

:bow Suns V. Magic :bow2

:bow

HERE'S HOPING FOR AN UPSET

fuck LA
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: drew on May 13, 2010, 10:59:50 PM
ENJOY YOUR DAY
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 13, 2010, 11:15:21 PM
"we played hard till the end" your team gave up with over a minute to go

jeebus

The worst part of this is all the Kobe fans going off unrestrained on GAF.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 13, 2010, 11:26:27 PM
It's not like Kobe has been all that great these playoffs, but Lebron the last two games was absolutely dismal.  Triple double or not.

I refuse to enter GAF's NBA thread, the jizz would be far too great.

So, Cleveland, here's what you do.

-Offer Lebron crazy money to sign him to another contract
-Fire Mike Brown
-Pick up some great free agents during the off season
-Pick up a worthwhile big that ISN'T SHAQ

also, I'm now rooting for the Suns.  Steve Nash and Amare :bow2
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 13, 2010, 11:29:22 PM
It would be foolish in my opinion for Lebron to stay with Cleveland. Hook up with another superstar and head to New York.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 13, 2010, 11:31:01 PM
And wait another two or three years before the team can be in contention?  Nah, he has a much better chance staying in Cleveland or going to Miami.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 13, 2010, 11:43:00 PM
And wait another two or three years before the team can be in contention?  Nah, he has a much better chance staying in Cleveland or going to Miami.
Lebron and Wade on the same team? ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 14, 2010, 12:08:05 AM
Sure, why not?  Wade has expressed interest for LeBron, and besides Beasley, they don't really have a great forward selection.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2010, 12:58:53 AM
I haven't seen a team give up like that in some time. Granted the game was out of hand, and we all complain about a final NBA minute really being five minutes, but you don't just sit back and let the other team do whatever. That was pathetic.

Go to Miami, LeBron.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 14, 2010, 01:20:34 AM
It would be foolish in my opinion for Lebron to stay with Cleveland. Hook up with another superstar and head to New York.

I like the way you think.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2010, 01:23:43 AM
fuck tha knicks
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2010, 01:25:15 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONLqJOCdfjI[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 14, 2010, 02:00:09 AM
If I am Lebron, I wouldn't put going to a young team out of my realm of choices. He's still young. The Cavs best role players are young guys already. It really looked like the veterans who were dead weight in the playoffs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2010, 02:14:28 AM
sorry etoilet he's not going to sactown
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 14, 2010, 02:17:00 AM
Why whatever would you be suggesting!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 14, 2010, 04:35:02 AM
And wait another two or three years before the team can be in contention?  Nah, he has a much better chance staying in Cleveland or going to Miami.

You keep saying that. NY has room to sign two max free agents and possibly more. Boston won in 2008, the first year Garnett and Allen arrived in town, and none of the Big Three were a patch on LeBron or Bosh at that point in their careers, never mind now. Cleveland, on the other hand, has committed big money, and no-one wants to go there. They get some cap relief from Shaq but what are they going to do with it to push them over the edge? It's exactly what happened to the Raptors with Carter - tons of money invested for years in marginal role players.

Chicago makes a TON of sense to me. Rose, Noah, plenty of good pieces like Deng and Heinrich to either trade or build on. They could potentially sign two max free agents as well, AND it's a major media market.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: pollo on May 14, 2010, 07:12:12 AM
fuck tha knicks

not even worth the skin off my knuckles, junior.

Lebron will have no one to play with. But that still wont stop me from dropping 1k for Garden tickets for me and my girl his first game here. lebaby  :smug

sadly his best option is the Bulls. Rose/Lebron/Noah? It's OVAH
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 14, 2010, 11:15:38 AM
Blugh, The ESPN narratives would be disgusting if he goes to Chicago.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 14, 2010, 11:27:24 AM
Has anyone here seen this? :lol

http://nymag.com/news/sports/lebron/
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 14, 2010, 11:34:41 AM
I posted that shit on the last page! :P
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 14, 2010, 11:35:36 AM
I was watching ESPN and apparently there's a petition website to keep Dwyane Wade in Miami...

www.wewantwade.com

Look for the vid with the dude with the Wrath2X lighting imploring Wade to stay. Nukka gonna' yo'. SMH
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 14, 2010, 11:39:17 AM
I posted that shit on the last page! :P
noooooooo
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 14, 2010, 01:53:17 PM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/v8elpi.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2010, 01:57:08 PM
To be fair I would have picked the exact same before each series.

I started to get really skeptical though once the actual Boston series began and I saw the same flaws from the prior year. Especially in the third and 4th quarter.

Like it was mentioned earlier in the thread I think it was simply a case of a great player elevating a group of average or below average players. But once the playoffs set in and things crank up, those average players get exposed.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 14, 2010, 02:03:31 PM
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/43588/colbertCalledIt.jpg)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/05/14/brown/index.html?eref=BrkNews (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/05/14/brown/index.html?eref=BrkNews)

Quote
The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired head coach Mike Brown, two league sources told SI.com.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/05/14/brown/index.html?eref=BrkNews#ixzz0nvbxPgUa

edit: not like it was an especially tough call to make
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2010, 02:25:10 PM
Hawks Coach was also fired today. Outside of Pop, Sloan, Jackson, and Larry Brown, no coach is safe in the NBA .
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 14, 2010, 02:25:37 PM
I thought Larry Brown wanted out?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2010, 02:28:16 PM
I thought Larry Brown wanted out?

I meant more in the sense that if they want a job, they can keep it. Larry Brown is a weirdo though. He's bounced around coaching his entire career.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 14, 2010, 02:36:48 PM
Yeah.  I initially thought he might be a good fit in Cleveland, but assuming Lebron stays, I remembered there were some issues between them in the 2004 Olympics...maybe they could iron it out, I don't know.

I nominate Del Nigro because he only got fired because he punched a dude.  The guy made Chicago a decent playoff contender in his two years there, and seemed like an able coach.  Much better than Mike Roker Brown.

Him or if by chance Calipari decides to go into the NBA.  That won't happen, though.

Maybe Woodson?  But really though, him and Mike Brown are interchangeable.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 14, 2010, 03:28:16 PM
stop it  :'(

it didn't help that Lebron was a big reason as the why they lost this series, mixed in with horrible coaching.  Get a better coach and some good free agents, and you're right back to a 60 win season.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2010, 04:39:59 PM
LeBron+Rose+Noah+Deng=  :o
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 14, 2010, 05:08:27 PM
Deng  :lol

But yeah, Noah and Rose and Lebron together could prove to be pretty unstoppable.

If by chance Lebron leaves Cleveland, I just hope they can secure a top free agent to try and replace him.  Maybe Wade.  I would hate to have to root for my Cavs with Mo Williams as their leader  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 14, 2010, 05:14:33 PM
(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/43588/colbertCalledIt.jpg)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/05/14/brown/index.html?eref=BrkNews (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/05/14/brown/index.html?eref=BrkNews)

Quote
The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired head coach Mike Brown, two league sources told SI.com.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/05/14/brown/index.html?eref=BrkNews#ixzz0nvbxPgUa

edit: not like it was an especially tough call to make

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5189101
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 14, 2010, 05:29:29 PM
fuck.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: lordmaji on May 14, 2010, 05:35:45 PM
LeBron+Rose+Noah+Deng=  :o

I actually like this idea... it's the best fit w/ the best players that can afford him Imo.

Either Bron or Wade in Chicago would be sweet.

Poor Detroit... :(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2010, 07:17:28 PM
Brown is still the coach.

also
http://deadspin.com/5539388/ridiculous-rumors-started-by-internet-varmints-delonte-west-banged-lebrons-mom
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 14, 2010, 07:19:29 PM
That rumor doesn't spread if Delonte doesn't have the face he has.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2010, 07:41:02 PM
Deng  :lol

But yeah, Noah and Rose and Lebron together could prove to be pretty unstoppable.

If by chance Lebron leaves Cleveland, I just hope they can secure a top free agent to try and replace him.  Maybe Wade.  I would hate to have to root for my Cavs with Mo Williams as their leader  :-\

:rofl

If LeBron leaves, the Cavs are done for. At least until they draft a #1 stud from Kentucky or something.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 14, 2010, 07:49:29 PM
Oh, I know that.  But at least give the city some form of a fighting chance by securing a decent player.  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2010, 08:07:45 PM
Wade is a competitor with killer instinct and a leader. LeBron has neither characteristic. I'm not a LeBron hater, but he has never given me the impression that he has the same drive that Jordan had and Kobe has*.


*Kobe gave up in that game 7 against the Suns, and the finals game against the Celtics. No denying that. But overall no one is more of a competitor than him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 14, 2010, 09:07:37 PM
That entire post reads like a joke post, but I know you're serious.  smh
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 15, 2010, 09:14:42 AM
So when LeBron scored the last 25 of his team's points against the Pistons to get his team to the finals at the age of 23, you didn't see that as killer instinct or competitiveness? Come on now. Not every great player has to fit the Jordan mold completely in order to be a champion - see Shaq, Tim Duncan, Dr J etc. LeBron gave up at the end of game 6, but I don't think I've ever seen anything like that from him before. I'm kind of inclined to believe that something happened behind the scenes to make him decide that he wasn't coming back, and he just checked out mentally to a fatal extent. And that infected the rest of the team.

Wade hasn't exactly covered himself in glory since 2006, lest we forget. Sure, he's had less help than LeBron but he went down to the Celtics too, and first round exits have been the norm. His finest moment since then was the Olympics but in the playoffs, he's had very little success post-Shaq. See also - Kobe before Gasol. Winning a ring as a star perimeter player (i.e. the best player on the team) is just incredibly tough to do. How many have done it without a dominant big man? Jerry West needed Wilt, Magic needed Kareem, Bird needed McHale and Parrish, Kobe needed Shaq or Gasol. Isiah and MJ may be the only ones to have pulled it off in recent memory. Most championship teams have featured a dominant big man who was the top player on the team. There is a distinct lack of nuance in how America views its star athletes - everyone is either a hopeless loser or a glorious winner. The reality is they all just help their TEAMS to a greater-or-lesser extent, and some teams need less help from their stars than others.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 15, 2010, 11:38:33 AM
Yeah, I really have no idea what PD is talking about. Winning championships is pretty simple. You either need good defense, A balanced team, A dominant big man, or a Batman and Robin 2 superstar approach. Cleveland is none of those things. Most superstars who win fall into one of those groupings. You can fake your way through some of that but eventually it will catch up to you.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 15, 2010, 12:18:02 PM
Eh, I wouldn't say Cleveland wasn't any of those things.  During the regular season they were the best defensive team in the league, and they had Lebron having great games nearly every game he played.  But whenever a Cleveland team in ANY sport gets into the playoffs, it's like everyone just stops playing.  I really don't understand Cleveland sometimes.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 15, 2010, 12:21:21 PM
It's easy to play the hindsight game especially after a team loses but I think it's pretty clear in this case that you have a very average team being lifted solely by one player. If a team is expecting Antawn Jamison to be their Scottie Pippen then they are in trouble.

At least Kobe has Pau Gasol. And an inside game. And a good coach.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 15, 2010, 12:29:16 PM
Again, I wouldn't say all of their defense was just Lebron doing his chase down blocks: Sideshow Bob, JJ Hickson, Mo, and Parker are all decent to great defensive players.  Yet again, though, they all shit the bed in the playoffs, other than Varejão.

But yeah, Lakers have a bitching team around their star, and one of the best coaches of all time.  If Cleveland had Jackson...*sigh*
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 15, 2010, 01:00:53 PM
An exeption doesn't disprove the rule, and even that one isn't great because the Pistons completely gave up in that game.

Wade has basically been injured off and on since 06. My only point is that when I watch LeBron, I see a guy who plays hard as long as he's getting his way. Once things get tough it's a wrap. Wade doesn't do that, Kobe (usually) doesn't do that.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 15, 2010, 01:02:24 PM
That sounds like every other Laker fan post on GAF.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 15, 2010, 01:25:40 PM
Except for the Wade love of course. I have no problems with LeBron. I just haven't really been a fan of his. I watched Melo in high school and college, and watched Wade in college; on the other hand I didn't really pay much attention to LeBron.

What I saw in the last two games was far from a winner or competitor. He checked out mentally, and if I was a Cavs fan I'd be furious
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 15, 2010, 01:31:30 PM
If they want to be furious be furious at assembling a squad of pretenders. If they want to be furious at Lebron. Well that is their personal right. Just enjoy the next 20 years of sucking when he leaves.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 15, 2010, 01:48:14 PM
I've had the luxury of being a Lebron fan ever since his freshman year of high school – I lived only about ten minutes away from St. Vincent-St. Mary and my high school would play them in exhibition games pretty frequently.  I went and saw him play both football and basketball games.  Dude's always been fierce.

Actually met him once at a high school party too, but that doesn't really have any impact on the discussion other than he's a really cool dude.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 15, 2010, 09:55:17 PM
Oh come now PD, what was the Heat's win total from a few years back? 19? What was the Cavs' that same year? Please don't talk nonsense.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 15, 2010, 09:57:35 PM
Stoney is right.  LeBron needs a team that is committed to winning a championship, which means getting better players around him, pure and simple.  Hate the Lakers all you want, but Jerry Buss knows how to build championship teams.

The really SCARY prospect, which I outlined already is that the Lakers do a sign-and-trade for Bynum and LeBron. Cleveland would take that deal for sure - otherwise they lose LeBron outright. Other players would need to be involved but it could definitely work. (Artest? Odom? one of them would need to go to free up minutes anyway) Just imagine Kobe, LeBron and Gasol together. In LA. It would be something.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 15, 2010, 11:33:40 PM
Heat were far worse though come on
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Mandark on May 16, 2010, 12:35:42 AM
They were worse cause Dwyane Wade makes a big deal of getting hurt like Vince Carter and JD Drew, while LeBron plays through injuries like Brett Favre and John McClane.

:smug
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 16, 2010, 01:19:09 AM
Disgusting lies. Wade is a warrior  :'(

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Akala on May 16, 2010, 02:15:07 AM
kobe an lebron would be hi la ri ous.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 16, 2010, 05:23:48 PM
Lakers Celtics finals. Book it.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Bacchus7 on May 16, 2010, 05:26:45 PM
/wrists
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 16, 2010, 05:47:59 PM
Lakers Celtics finals. Book it.

Then the Celtics getting obliterated :'(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 16, 2010, 05:49:42 PM
Lakers Celtics finals. Book it.
I really don't wanna see that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 16, 2010, 06:16:59 PM
LEWIS IS SO FUCKING USELESS
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 16, 2010, 06:41:38 PM
Lakers Celtics finals. Book it.

Then the Celtics getting obliterated :'(

I would favor the Lakers like most sane people but I also won't count out the Celtics. I think they have shown that the regular season was not the real measure of that team.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 16, 2010, 06:44:58 PM
I would rather see the Magic and Suns, but I doubt that happens.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 16, 2010, 06:51:05 PM
Lewis played for 43 mins, made 2 close up shots, 2 free throws and missed seven 3s.

What the fuck is he getting paid for? ???
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 16, 2010, 06:57:03 PM
He needs to be set up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 16, 2010, 08:43:14 PM
Lakers Celtics finals. Book it.

Then the Celtics getting obliterated :'(

I would favor the Lakers like most sane people but I also won't count out the Celtics. I think they have shown that the regular season was not the real measure of that team.



We'll see what state Bynum is in against the Suns, and then we'll have a much cleared picture. I'm not convinced that the Lakers are any better than they were in 2008 with Bynum hurt. The Celtics have proven they can handle Kobe and Gasol. Gasol folded under constant bruising from Perkins and Garnett, and they bottled up Kobe and countered his scoring very effectively. Rondo of course could well eat them alive, as Fisher can only defend by funneling to the bigs at this point.

Basically, if the Celtics can get past the Magic (who have been paying better than anyone), I see no reason why they couldn't also beat the Lakers. I don't count out the Suns either! Their offense is running even better than ever - 112pts per 100 possessions, ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 16, 2010, 09:22:32 PM
The Suns attempt some D these days, even if they don't have a real stopper. Beating a Phil Jackson team depends on hitting your threes. He will always pack the middle. The Suns can pull Bynum/Gasol out on pick n rolls with their shooting bigs. If Frye doesn't hit his threes they are pretty fucked.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 16, 2010, 10:32:56 PM
god dammit celtics
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 17, 2010, 12:22:56 AM
He needs to be set up.
Fuck that, he was open for a couple of those shots.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Himu on May 17, 2010, 12:26:48 AM
Lakers Celtics finals. Book it.

oh goodness
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 17, 2010, 02:49:59 AM
Quote
The Phoenix Suns have reacted with a collective smirk to Phil Jackson's suggestion that Steve Nash travels with the basketball.

"It's news to me. I'm fortunate. I don't know if I've been called for a carry yet," he said after the Suns practiced Saturday, then he added straight-faced: "I've never heard anyone accuse me of carrying it. I mean, the best coach in the league Gregg Popovich [of San Antonio] didn't have a problem with it last week."

:lol Phil ethered
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2010, 03:38:02 AM
Van Gundy draws up some crazy good plays (just saw that purposely missed Carter ft); granted the luck of the bounce sealed the deal but it was still nice. Reminds me of Izzo in that sense, especially out of bounds plays

When will Howard learn some post moves?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 17, 2010, 03:53:57 AM
Last year, his lob play to Courtney Lee was almost perfect except for the Courtney Lee part.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 17, 2010, 04:07:28 AM
Last year, his lob play to Courtney Lee was almost perfect except for the Courtney Lee part.
:lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2010, 04:50:33 AM
 :lol

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 18, 2010, 08:23:20 PM
FUCK YOU NBA

Again?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 18, 2010, 10:14:23 PM
I don't know what the number one pick means for the Wiz. I'm not sure I care anymore. The thrill is gone.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 18, 2010, 11:39:38 PM
Celtics are just kicking ass. I actually think the finals could be pretty darn good.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 18, 2010, 11:44:10 PM
Magic :teehee
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on May 19, 2010, 12:13:05 AM
Apparently the no-contact defensive rules don't apply to the Celtics.

Fucking NBA!   >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 19, 2010, 12:53:45 AM
LOL @ Nets

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: huckleberry on May 19, 2010, 08:01:30 AM
I don't know what the number one pick means for the Wiz. I'm not sure I care anymore. The thrill is gone.

It means John Wall. ....and maybe you get Calipari as a bonus.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 19, 2010, 08:49:28 AM
Wow, that sounds boring. Maybe the Wiz can trade the pick for some Redskins tickets and let the fans buy those instead.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 19, 2010, 02:37:36 PM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/w15zx2.png)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 19, 2010, 04:51:20 PM
[youtube=560,345]qY1dQldCtOI[/youtube]
 :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 19, 2010, 04:57:57 PM
omfg the furniture dude :rofl

I know every single one of those people, being from Ohio and all.  Kinda cool.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 19, 2010, 09:34:23 PM
Lakers kicking ass. Suns have no answer for this. Finesse basketball of the type they play isn't going to cut it versus the Lakers.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 20, 2010, 11:03:05 AM
This is the Lakers I remember from the start of the season. I love to watch the Suns, and I love to hate the Lakers, but I have to admit, the Lakers are playing beautifully right now. I bet the Celtics can uglify their shit pretty fast though.

Man, I hope the Conference Finals don't end up being completely one-sided as well. We haven't had a meaningful game 7 yet :(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 20, 2010, 11:09:37 AM
I'm looking forward to the finals. I favor the Lakers but I certainly give the Celtics a fighting chance. The Suns are a fun entertaining basketball team. But when you see them play the Lakers, you see all the flaws that stop them from getting by a team like that. It's like a worst case match-up for them. They may pull one out in Phoenix but its hard to not see this series ending in a sweep or 4-1.

At least the magic have in theory a chance in their series.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 20, 2010, 12:50:34 PM
Suns have been making the same mistake for years. That type of fast offense/no defense isn't going to get them anywhere meaningful, and Nash's career is almost over.

Lakers look unstoppable but doubting the Celtics never seems to work. It should be an interesting series, at least on paper. Lots of series should have been interesting this playoff run, which has been bad overall
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on May 20, 2010, 12:53:34 PM
Sun's style of play got them to the Conference Finals.  It just stopped working because refs stop calling fouls.  What's the point of enforcing less contact during the regular season if Ron Artest is still allowed to play physical defense from 10 yrs ago in the Playoffs?  This is why so many refs think that NBA officiating and the league itself is bullshit. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 20, 2010, 12:56:03 PM
meh. I disagree. I watched that game and the suns play no defense. They can't stop the lakers from shooting high percentage shots especially because they have no inside defense. And the Lakers are killing them from beyond the 3 point line.

Has nothing to do with the refs imo. The Lakers are simply a much a better team. And worse they are exactly the sort of team that the suns match up poorly against. The Celtics would also roast them.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 20, 2010, 12:59:05 PM
The refs suck but they haven't doomed the Suns. Poor defense and a reliance on jump shots has.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 20, 2010, 01:05:53 PM
Lakers game 1
FG%: 58%
3 PT FG%:47% (8-17)



Lakers game 2

FG%: 57%
3 PT FG%:56% (9-16)   

That's the game and series right there. As competent as the suns are on offense they are equally woeful on defense against a team of the Lakers calibur that can score in multiple ways.
 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ManaByte on May 20, 2010, 04:15:21 PM
Wear this to a Lakers game = get arrested:
(http://www.vivalos1070.com/images/goldshirt_v2.png)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 20, 2010, 04:19:09 PM
*sigh*
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 23, 2010, 12:33:16 AM
NBA playoffs suck
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 23, 2010, 08:32:16 PM
Welcome to MLB playoffs 2: Same Ol' Shiteroo
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on May 23, 2010, 09:41:40 PM
The refs suck but they haven't doomed the Suns. Poor defense and a reliance on jump shots has.

The problem with the NBA is that players and teams can't suddenly start playing defense if they don't already have reps for playing tough D.  If Amare starts playing physical D like KG or Artest, he'd have 3 fouls in the 1st quarter.  Like I said before, why even enforce no-contact rules in the regular season if the refs won't blow their whistles in the playoffs?  Either let the game be played rough or don't but just be consistent throughout the whole year, including playoffs. 

It's reason #5695 why the NBA sucks. 

NBA playoffs suck

Blame the AAU and NCAA also.  Not enough coaching in the former and too much coaching in the latter.  Both are terrible in grooming players to be pros. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on May 23, 2010, 09:54:05 PM
Wow, Suns finally have a lead at half-time. 

The only chance that the Suns have at winning is if Kobe decides that he doesn't want to share the glory with Gasol.  The Suns were successful in the past at goading Kobe into playing hero.  This series would be a lot more interesting if the Suns could do it again. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: WrikaWrek on May 23, 2010, 10:13:13 PM
These Lakers....sloppy. Very sloppy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 23, 2010, 10:42:08 PM
Is there a NBA rule for a minimum of five seconds on the shotclock for a tip? They just added four seconds to the shotclock on a jump ball that happened with 1 second left.

edit: ah, yes

•   The 24-second clock shall remain the same as when play was interrupted or reset to 5 seconds, whichever is greater, any time on jump balls retained by the offensive team as the result of a held ball caused by the defense.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 23, 2010, 11:27:47 PM


Blame the AAU and NCAA also.  Not enough coaching in the former and too much coaching in the latter.  Both are terrible in grooming players to be pros. 

When I played AAU, the coaches would basically let the top tier players do whatever they wanted for fear of losing them to another team. The scene consists of a bunch of asshole kids and their enablers. Then they go to college and get some basic rules but ultimately they're still the big men on campus for the one year they're there.

My problem with the playoffs has more to do with the set up though. Seven game series rake in money, but they rarely seem to result in dramatic, good series. There's no reason for the first round to be seven games. 3 games is fine, or 5. Save game 7s for the finals.

I'm tired of inconsistent officiating but that's not going to change anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 24, 2010, 01:13:33 PM
Mike Brown got fired  :usacry

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/28lyo39.gif)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on May 24, 2010, 01:20:33 PM
I wonder why they waited so long.

NBA playoffs suck
Completely agree.  Fuck seven game series early.
Yeah I take back everything good I might have said about the NBA. NCAA wins. I think that Bulls/Celtics series from last year had me believing that maybe the new generation of teams wasn't totally hopeless, but that's clearly not the case.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 25, 2010, 11:16:35 PM
Dragic just showtimed Ron Harper 2.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 25, 2010, 11:40:06 PM
Dragic :bow2
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 25, 2010, 11:45:08 PM
GAF thread: KOBE! KOBE! KOBE! TRADE THE REST OF THE TEAM!

reality: Phil Jackson is overrated. Eight quarters of zone D and you can not adjust? You don't get Pau touches? Still can't figure out how to defend a pick n roll?

The Suns were trash in LA, so I expect the Lakers to blow them out at home again. The one thing LA should worry about is that Nash has been relatively quiet. He's missed open shots. If he starts hitting his normal percentage and Phil is still struggling to D a pick n roll then its Fuuuuu for you.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 27, 2010, 12:48:17 AM
I'm pretty mad about gm 5 in Orlando. The Celtics showed up to play (as did Orlando), but what should have been a thrilling, highly competitive game ended up a fucking mess of fouls and techs, with the Celtics forced to play undersized bench scrubs against the Orlando starters. The Celts ended up with 2 players getting concussions out of that. Orlando was playing well enough to beat the Cs anyway, but it would have been nice to let the players decide it, not the refs. How come every ref was watching Dwight Howard's elbow against the Bucks and the Hawks, but once the Magic are down 3 zip to the Celtics, he can start clobbering everyone who comes within 6 feet and not get called on it? The whole thing was a disgrace.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 27, 2010, 01:14:50 AM
Don't forget how Howard almost dislocated Pierce's shoulder and Rasheed Wallace started having back spasms. Celtics falling apart. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 27, 2010, 03:39:46 AM
How hilarious. :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 27, 2010, 08:09:29 AM
Gotta give props to the Suns and the Magic. I still skeptical either team will their series but neither just layed down and died like I expected.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 27, 2010, 09:31:55 AM
Gotta give props to the Suns and the Magic. I still skeptical either team will their series but neither just layed down and died like I expected.

Agreed, especially with the Magic. Seemed like the Suns were just getting beaten on the road by a better team, but the Magic losing two home games really shocked/disappointed me.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 27, 2010, 12:53:46 PM
Gotta give props to the Suns and the Magic. I still skeptical either team will their series but neither just layed down and died like I expected.

Semi-agree. Both Magic and Suns have obviously brought it big-time in the last 2 games. But I never got the impression that the Suns were quitting when they lost the first two games, just that they were being beat by the better team, which had far superior size. The Magic on the other hand - they were the favorites but they outright quit in gm 3 at least (and choked away gm 2). I thought the Cs had their number at that point. So all credit to whatever and whoever got them back on track. Doesn't fully excuse their giving away that gm 3 though.

Still, the Magic have another 5-7 yrs of championship contention ahead of them, they'll figure it out even if they fall short this year.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on May 27, 2010, 02:05:25 PM
So all credit to whatever and whoever got them back on track. Doesn't fully excuse their giving away that gm 3 though.
(http://imgur.com/gywZs.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on May 27, 2010, 02:08:02 PM
Seriously though, I detest pretty much everyone on the Celtics except for Ray Allen, so I'd be thrilled to see them become the first team ever to choke away a 3-0 lead.

But the reffing yesterday really was pretty embarrassing
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 27, 2010, 02:57:26 PM
How can you detest Rajon Rondo, the dude is fucking sick.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on May 27, 2010, 03:00:36 PM
Yeah I love watching him play, but I haven't seen enough interviews to arbitrarily judge him, so I guess I'm indifferent there. It's mostly KG, Pierce, and Rasheed that I want to see drown in failure
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 27, 2010, 07:27:32 PM
Agreed.  Rondo will be the star player there next year, definitely.  Garnett and Pierce won't have as big an impact anymore.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 27, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Both the Lakers and Suns look old and slow.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 27, 2010, 11:38:43 PM
HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 27, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
HOOOOOOOOO LEEEEEE SHEEEEEEET
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 27, 2010, 11:41:18 PM
What is this I don't even
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 27, 2010, 11:41:35 PM
omg :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 27, 2010, 11:44:43 PM
that was nuts
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Mandark on May 27, 2010, 11:46:23 PM
NCAA sux.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 28, 2010, 12:04:52 AM
fucking Ron Artest  :-\

this is a 7 game series, though.  Hell, both may end up being 7 game series'
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Brehvolution on May 28, 2010, 12:15:20 AM
Artest :fbm
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 28, 2010, 12:29:58 AM
fuck queens
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ManaByte on May 29, 2010, 08:39:34 PM
Game 6 on now. Fuck Kobe. Go Suns.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 29, 2010, 08:46:09 PM
:bow SUNS :bow2
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ManaByte on May 29, 2010, 08:48:22 PM
Oh good Kobe is bleeding. Maybe they'll pull him.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ManaByte on May 29, 2010, 11:10:46 PM
Fucking Refs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 29, 2010, 11:31:43 PM
[youtube=560,345]bR6YL2z0hZE[/youtube]
 :lol

If LeBron actually wants to win, he won't go to the Knicks
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Rman on May 30, 2010, 12:25:43 AM
Damn Lakers.  Stern got his wish again with this matchup.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ManaByte on May 30, 2010, 12:36:20 AM
Damn Lakers.  Stern got his wish again with this matchup.

It's easy to get your wish when you rig the game by ordering the Refs to make calls in the Lakers favor.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Mandark on May 30, 2010, 12:41:32 AM
Why does Mana keep capitalizing "refs"?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 30, 2010, 12:49:36 AM
Good job NBA, way to have the two teams I hate the most in the Finals  :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ManaByte on May 30, 2010, 12:55:05 AM
Good job NBA, way to have the two teams I hate the most in the Finals  :-\

I want Boston to win in LA just to hurt Kobe's ego.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 30, 2010, 01:02:35 AM
Fuck Boston.  Bunch of old shits who start melting sweat within the first 30 seconds of the game.  Kevin Garnett is a fuckbutton.  Rajon Rondo is cool with me though.

I guess I'll root for the refs.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 30, 2010, 02:29:48 AM
Suns lost that game. gtfo Manabyte

hmmm who to hate: Kevin Garnett or Kobe fanboys? Tough decision  :'(

Since I'm a Kobe fan, I think I'll take the Lakers in 6. But Rondo could really light the Lakers up
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ManaByte on May 30, 2010, 03:18:14 AM
Again:
Quote
The 2002 Western Conference Finals between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings presents a stunning example of game and series manipulation at its ugliest. As the teams prepared for Game 6 at the Staples Center, Sacramento had a 3–2 lead in the series. The referees assigned to work Game 6 were Dick Bavetta, Bob Delaney, and Ted Bernhardt. As soon as the referees for the game were chosen, the rest of us knew immediately that there would be a Game 7. A prolonged series was good for the league, good for the networks, and good for the game. Oh, and one more thing: it was great for the big-market, star-studded Los Angeles Lakers.

In the pregame meeting prior to Game 6, the league office sent down word that certain calls — calls that would have benefitted the Lakers — were being missed by the referees. This was the type of not-so-subtle information that I and other referees were left to interpret. After receiving the dispatch, Bavetta openly talked about the fact that the league wanted a Game 7.

"If we give the benefit of the calls to the team that's down in the series, nobody's going to complain. The series will be even at three apiece, and then the better team can win Game 7," Bavetta stated.

As history shows, Sacramento lost Game 6 in a wild come-from-behind thriller that saw the Lakers repeatedly sent to the foul line by the referees. For other NBA referees watching the game on television, it was a shameful performance by Bavetta's crew, one of the most poorly officiated games of all time.

The 2002 series certainly wasn't the first or last time Bavetta weighed in on an important game. He also worked Game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference Finals between the Lakers and the Trail Blazers. The Lakers were down by 13 at the start of the fourth quarter when Bavetta went to work. The Lakers outscored Portland 31–13 in the fourth quarter and went on to win the game and the series. It certainly didn't hurt the Lakers that they got to shoot 37 free throws compared to a paltry 16 for the Trail Blazers.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on May 30, 2010, 03:26:39 AM
Lakers won fair and square. Kobe showed why he's still the best closer in the league.

Signed, a Kings fan born and raised in Sacramento
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 30, 2010, 03:29:29 AM
What does that game have to do with tonight? Anyway, I remember watching that game. The game was Sac Town's to win, but guess what. They didn't. Move on.

Etoilet in 3...2..
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on May 30, 2010, 04:35:22 AM
Woops I was referring to the Suns game lol. I wouldn't be surprised if there was something shady going on in that Kings/Lakers series after reading all the details that leaked out from Donaghy
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on May 30, 2010, 04:48:12 AM
The refs aren't the reason why the Suns lost this. Stop looking for excuses, Manabyte.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on May 30, 2010, 11:47:00 AM
Hard for me to honestly pick the finals. My gut sort of says Boston even though I sort of logically think the Lakers are the better team.

I'll say Boston in 6 or 7.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: pollo on May 30, 2010, 03:45:00 PM
 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR6YL2z0hZE

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:(
[close]
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on May 30, 2010, 06:48:50 PM
So, not only have the Maloofs ditched the popular Kayte Christensen for Jim Kobe Gray, they signed up Bill Walton for select broadcasts.

Either they hate their fanbase or they are preparing to ditch the fanbase.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 02, 2010, 05:29:26 PM
Tonight's the night.
 :)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ManaByte on June 02, 2010, 05:34:31 PM
Tonight's the night.
 :)


No, tomorrow is.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 02, 2010, 06:02:28 PM
Tonight's the night.
 :)


No, tomorrow is.

lulz. I just realized I spent the entire day thinking it was Thursday.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on June 02, 2010, 06:03:11 PM
So, not only have the Maloofs ditched the popular Kayte Christensen for Jim Kobe Gray, they signed up Bill Walton for select broadcasts.

Either they hate their fanbase or they are preparing to ditch the fanbase.
:lol Wtf
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 03, 2010, 11:13:58 PM
I may have picked the wrong team...

Although honestly I think everybody expects the Lakers to win Game 1 on their home court.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 03, 2010, 11:41:21 PM
Garnett   :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2010, 12:35:06 AM
:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 04, 2010, 12:40:16 AM
Garnett looked like his head was somewhere far from the basketball court.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2010, 12:41:50 AM
Garnett looked like his head was somewhere far from the basketball court.

Not all stars have championship focus like our mayne Kobe.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 04, 2010, 12:48:11 AM
Garnett looked like his head was somewhere far from the basketball court.
There's no excuse for how he played unless a teammate fucked his mom too.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 04, 2010, 03:01:46 AM
Well, I was looking forward to watching this when I got home but one of my co-workers spoiled it for me, after I asked him not to mention it first thing in the morning and stayed off all the news sites, Facebook, Twitter etc all goddamn day. Oh well, sounds like a sucky game on the whole. I wasn't expecting the Celts to take game 1 in Staples, but it certainly sounds like the Lakers aren't going to fold. Should go 6 games at least though, right? I can't take a blow-out series...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2010, 03:40:20 AM
Well, I was looking forward to watching this when I got home but one of my co-workers spoiled it for me, after I asked him not to mention it first thing in the morning and stayed off all the news sites, Facebook, Twitter etc all goddamn day.

Once again, every single subject in life can be seen on the show Seinfeld.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 07, 2010, 11:28:30 AM
Didn't get a chance to watch the game last night so downloading it before I left this morning. Good to see the Celtics making it a series though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 07, 2010, 11:42:39 AM
Ray Allen was on fire.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 07, 2010, 11:44:37 AM
It looked like the Celtics were getting some calls, though.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 07, 2010, 11:47:17 AM
And the Lakers weren't with their 40+ free throw attempts? Refs were shit the whole game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 07, 2010, 07:50:20 PM
Watched that game when I got home. Entertaining game.

My thoughts are as follows.

Gasol and Bynum can be beasts when they want to be. That does not bode well for the Celtics.
Garnett's decline is swift and sad.
Even though the Celtics won I sort of felt like it was a lucky win. Kobe was in foul trouble and a couple of those calls were definitely questionable. Sort of changed the dynamic of the game and how Kobe could play.
It will interesting to see how the Lakers play on the road.

Also Rondo  :bow2

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKUSqq_4z5Q[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFvHfcZ5BgE[/youtube]


Sometimes dude plays out of control but he's still really something.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 07, 2010, 08:45:00 PM
Lakers fans shouldn't be complaining about fouls.  Ever since Artest became a Laker, he's been allowed to play the type of defense that the new rules were designed to curtail. 

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on June 07, 2010, 08:55:48 PM
Both Boston and LA play in a style befitted by the officiating. These games have also been highly boring.

Also, lol at David Falk in this Parade article on the NBA's future

http://www.parade.com/news/2010/06/06-6-ways-to-fix-the-nba.html

Quote
2. Change the salary structure. “The current system limits the salaries of the few legitimate superstars but raises the salaries of average players,” agent David Falk declares. “We’v e created almost a socialistic state in the NBA, robbing from the stars to pay the average players. We also have to stop paying the replaceable players big money. When role players think they are stars, they won’t play hard. If you paid your secretary $750,000 a year, do you think she’d still get you coffee?”
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 08, 2010, 09:09:22 PM
Garnett!
 :teehee
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 08, 2010, 09:15:25 PM
Garnett!
 :teehee

Yeah, that was surprising. Lets see if he can keep it up.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 08, 2010, 09:36:02 PM
Not a good first quarter for the Celtics at all...
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 08, 2010, 11:12:42 PM
Celtics have clawed their way back into this one. One point game.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 08, 2010, 11:31:39 PM
Ray Allen 0-12
 >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 08, 2010, 11:32:36 PM
Celts would be up by 10 if they could hit some layups. 

It's like watching a bunch of playground players out there.  SMH
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 08, 2010, 11:33:39 PM
If Ray Allen wasn't sucking so much today, 0-12....Celtics would be up by 10.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 08, 2010, 11:39:01 PM
Kobe getting too much credit as usual.  It's not clutch if you finally hit one after missing 8.   ::)

Also, KG had a pretty good game statistically but still kinda :fbm.  There were at least two plays when old KG would have smashed on Gasol. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 08, 2010, 11:41:24 PM
Dagger!


0-13.

lulz. 0-14 is the record for a finals.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 08, 2010, 11:44:02 PM
Ray Allen :(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 08, 2010, 11:44:24 PM
Ray Allen :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 08, 2010, 11:46:14 PM
Looks like all that talk about Rondo really lit a fire under Fisher tonight.  

That shot he just made over 3 Celtics looked amazing in slow-mo.  Too bad ABC just had to include Kobe as part of the moment again.

I wish the media would just give up the fuck up on the Kobe as the new Jordan campaign.  
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 09, 2010, 12:31:17 AM
The media is sure running with this Rondo shit, so fucking annoying. Even as he had a bad game they kept hyping him up
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 09, 2010, 12:38:48 AM
Probably cause he's the only person on the Celtics who's semi-consistent. Smh @ Pierce and Allen tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 09, 2010, 12:42:00 AM
He's a great player and has had a nice coming out party during the playoffs but good lord it's annoying. I hate being "that guy" who complains about the media hyping a player (think GAF on LeBron, Brady, Favre, etc) although I won't take it to a point where I wind up hating the player
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on June 09, 2010, 03:17:16 AM
I do not have a problem with it so far. Boston totally depends on him.

The Kobe narrative bothers me more. He's had two bad games in a row and is taking 30 shots when the Lakers are much better when Gasol gets touches. As these playoffs have gone on, Gasol has faded from the offense. I do not understand if its his passiveness or Kobe's need to take credit. And the Laker fans keep bitching about the refs, but if you want Boston in foul trouble you should be feeding Pau. Kobe is more an outside player these days.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 09, 2010, 03:37:02 AM
Kobe took multiple bad shots tonight. Some went in and really wowed me, but others were so bad I was having flashbacks of him jacking 3s against Utah many moons ago. He has improved as a team player but it's obvious he wants the glory here. Gasol can dominate Garnett, and command a double team at times. Kobe wants to provide the dagger, but it's not what's important right now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 09, 2010, 08:44:00 AM
After 3 games now its really hard to see the Celtics winning.

Gasol has improved so much in recent years its not even funny. I didn't quite realize how much until I saw him in this series. Even Bynum impresses me gimpy knee and all. As long as the rest of the players play their role, they should be fine.

Pierce and Allen seem too inconsistent on the offensive end. And Garnett has declined too much on the defensive end to be the force he once was. So that basically leaves Rondo as the consistent force who has to win this series for the Celtics along with overall team defense.

The Celtics have a bit too much pride and talent to go quietly but its kinda hard to envision the scenario where they win. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Brehvolution on June 09, 2010, 10:16:06 AM
I agree, Stoney. I can't see it either. The celts have to live and die by the jumper. They have little inside game. I saw Garnett get blocked twice last night. The Lakers are playing great paint D.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 09, 2010, 03:27:21 PM
Tom Izzo has told players at MSU that he's going to accept the Cavs job...

I can't imagine him doing this unless he had assurance LeBron was staying

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 09, 2010, 04:11:45 PM
Lebron is dumb if he thinks that a college coach can turn his fortunes around. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 10, 2010, 10:52:24 PM
Tie game. Third quarter.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 10, 2010, 11:08:45 PM
Not a pretty game but a hard fought one.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 10, 2010, 11:16:29 PM
Celtics bench playing better than the Celtics starters.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 10, 2010, 11:25:20 PM
Amazing Boston bench performance.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 11, 2010, 12:24:22 AM
Good to see Nate Robinson get a good amount of playing time. I liked his crazy ass since he was on the Knicks. They can't expect to play Rondo most of the game every night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 11, 2010, 12:59:32 AM
Lakers are going to lose if their offense consists of Kobe taking bad shots, and everyone else standing around. The Celtics can't stop Gasol, he needs to get the ball
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Bloodwake on June 11, 2010, 12:17:46 PM
Amazing Boston bench performance.

That's something I don't see a lot in the NBA. Actually made hearing about this shit on SportsCenter entertaining.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 11, 2010, 12:29:47 PM
Good to see Nate Robinson get a good amount of playing time. I liked his crazy ass since he was on the Knicks. They can't expect to play Rondo most of the game every night.

Dude got in Odom's face or him being so short, Odom's abdominals :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 11, 2010, 12:31:20 PM
It was pretty compelling stuff. There was this tension you could feel both in yourself and in the crowd for how long he would go with them and if he would go with them too long. I think everybody sort of had it in the back of their mind that he would overplay them but honestly he did a great job with leaving them out there for the perfect amount of time.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Brehvolution on June 11, 2010, 01:08:31 PM
Boston should have won by 20+ but they blew sooooo many opportunities. I'm surprised they pulled it out tbh.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 11, 2010, 01:18:38 PM
Yeah, like I mentioned in the last game, Boston just can't seem to make layups.  It's simply ridiculous for players of that level to miss such easy shots. 

Good to see Nate Robinson get a good amount of playing time. I liked his crazy ass since he was on the Knicks. They can't expect to play Rondo most of the game every night.

Dude got in Odom's face or him being so short, Odom's abdominals :lol

Why was everyone so upset at Nate's reaction to Odom's foul, which easily could have been considered flagarant?  Odom literally body-slammed him.  Nate being pissed off was completely understandable. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 11, 2010, 02:02:08 PM
Yeah, like I mentioned in the last game, Boston just can't seem to make layups.  It's simply ridiculous for players of that level to miss such easy shots. 

Good to see Nate Robinson get a good amount of playing time. I liked his crazy ass since he was on the Knicks. They can't expect to play Rondo most of the game every night.

Dude got in Odom's face or him being so short, Odom's abdominals :lol

Why was everyone so upset at Nate's reaction to Odom's foul, which easily could have been considered flagarant?  Odom literally body-slammed him.  Nate being pissed off was completely understandable. 

I guess everyone is all up in Nate's butt about being a drama queen? But I agree, Nate went flying.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ManaByte on June 11, 2010, 08:41:38 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-4080-LA-Classic-Game-Examiner~y2010m6d8-An-E3-Versus-The-NBA-Finals-Survival-Guide
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 08:10:05 PM
Big game. Must win for the Celtics
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 13, 2010, 09:30:18 PM
Looks like the Celtics got this
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 09:42:27 PM
Kobe!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
lulz. Even with Kobe going off, the lead has only increased.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 13, 2010, 09:53:27 PM
Celtics are making lots of little mistakes today.  Luckily they're shooting the lights out.  
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 13, 2010, 09:54:05 PM
Kobe makes me sick.

If it wasn't for him Celtics would steamroll this bitch.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 10:05:16 PM
Celtics bench is just giving the Lakers fits.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Raban on June 13, 2010, 10:14:34 PM
Lakers are getting pwnt. Popcorn at the ready for the LA riots to follow.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 10:24:22 PM
Gotta give it to the Celts. I didn't think they would be able to get the series to this point early in it. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 10:30:20 PM
Ray Allen has missed like his last 15 or 16 3 pointers.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 10:38:31 PM
Celtics got a lucky break there. Ray Allen has just completely lost his 3 point touch.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 10:44:05 PM
Dagger!

What a play
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 13, 2010, 10:49:49 PM
:teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee :teehee
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 13, 2010, 10:51:54 PM
Boston has two games to choke this thing.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 13, 2010, 10:53:05 PM
I sort of wish the Lakers to Celtics ratio was different on GAF so that if the Celtic do choke, it would be more entertaining. Lakers-Age are crying blooder murder right now :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2010, 10:56:43 PM
Kobe = 38 points. Other 11 Lakers: 48 points

Kobe = 13-27 FG 48%   Other 11 Lakers=18-51 FG 35%

That was the game right there. The rest of the team just collapsed in that one.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 13, 2010, 10:59:18 PM
Kobe wasn't shit until the 3rd either. I hope all of the Celtics show up (fuckin Ray Allen...) in game 6 and end this early.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 13, 2010, 11:38:54 PM
I called it a long time ago.  Celtics' best chance to win is if Kobe decides to play hero and take Gasol out of the equation. 

Still, it will be hard for the Celts to win it all in LA.  I peg their chances at 55%. 

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 13, 2010, 11:42:19 PM
I went out for dinner and missed the entire 4th quarter.  Did Lakers ever make it close? 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on June 13, 2010, 11:43:22 PM
No because Pau is a sack of shit and Lakers' bench is useless on the road.

edit: Actually I guess it was within 5 somewhere in the last 2 minutes but it felt like a blowout the whole time
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 14, 2010, 01:52:05 AM
Celtics can't stop Gasol. So of course Kobe is going to ignore him and try to win this by himself. So fucking predictable.

There will probably be a game 7. Some folks think some fishy shit is going on, but the games seemed decently called to me, by NBA standards.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on June 14, 2010, 02:08:08 AM
They could have shown him some love in the first two quarters when Kobe was throwing up garbage, but he had plenty of touches in the second half. It pains me to admit it because I hate the prick, but Garnett just shut him down. I distinctly remember two blocks in a row on Pau in the third quarter, right around when Bryant had scored 17 consecutive Laker points or something ridiculous
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 14, 2010, 09:31:47 AM
Lulz at trying to blame Kobe for that loss last night. Pau has been playing very well in the series but he simply wasn't last night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 14, 2010, 08:25:39 PM
It's pretty obvious to me that Bynum is the key to Pau playing well against the Celtics. When Bynum is active and mobile, the Lakers rule the paint, get the Celtics' bigs into foul trouble and get lots of easy looks. That also keeps the ball moving on offense for the Lakers, as Pau is a very willing passer. And even Kobe can't resist the easy lobs to Bynum.

With Bynum out, the mauling of Pau starts about 18 feet out, and he rarely gets good position. Rasheed and KG drive him nuts with constant pawing, bumping and jawing. Big Baby can't go over or around Pau and Bynum together, but he can get around Pau solo pretty well. KG can score in any manner of ways when he has the extra room to move - Odom can't bother his shot, and Pau can't keep him out of the paint. Basically, with Bynum reduced to about 15 mins of play last night, the Lakers' game devolved to bad jump shots and free throws. They did pretty well with that, 'cause they have Kobe making incredible shots, but I think the Celtics have their number now. Their D is just ridiculous, and they've found enough ways to score on the Lakers to get it done, even if they make huge numbers of appalling flubs. Perkins running the break? Fouling Kobe on a 3? Not to mention all those bobbled layups.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 15, 2010, 01:52:22 AM
Perkins running the break?
Now that was funny.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 15, 2010, 01:55:44 AM
Props to Kobe for taking the charge though!

I think him and Fisher have been the only Lakers to take a charge this whole series, possibly the post-season. Should also give Kobe props for his defensive effort too - there was one play where he picked up 3 Celtics in succession on the perimeter. Just an incredible amount of hustle, and he was in foul trouble too.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2010, 08:54:47 PM
Big game again.

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Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 15, 2010, 09:34:39 PM
 :maf
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 15, 2010, 09:35:40 PM
Lakers look like they got this
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 15, 2010, 09:56:15 PM
This choke job is epic
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2010, 10:49:27 PM
Izzo staying

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5290541
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on June 15, 2010, 10:52:01 PM
it would be nice if they called the same fouls two games in a row
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 15, 2010, 10:56:19 PM
 :'( Celtics
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on June 15, 2010, 10:58:03 PM
Rondo :(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 15, 2010, 11:00:45 PM
I'm convinced this shit is fixed. NBA :wag

Did the whole Celtics team come down with diarrhea? The fuck, mang.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 15, 2010, 11:00:58 PM
Jesus, this game is straight murder
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2010, 11:45:49 PM
Gonna be tough for the Celtics to pull out a game 7 on the road.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Bloodwake on June 16, 2010, 12:18:27 AM
You mean this is going to game 7?

I'm SO FUCKING SHOCKED.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 16, 2010, 12:27:26 AM
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd303/celticpride_bucket/Lakers_Rock__Roll.gif)

:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 16, 2010, 12:59:09 AM
I'm convinced this shit is fixed. NBA :wag

Hard to believe that it isn't since Finals ratings have been so abysmal for most of the post-Jordan era.  NBA is desperate for a game 7 between the Lakers and Celtics. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 16, 2010, 12:59:19 AM
Izzo staying

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5290541

Right decision. Even on a LeBron led team, I don't think Izzo would be a great fit. He's the best coach in college basketball, and wants a second championship to cement his legacy.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on June 16, 2010, 01:00:39 AM
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd303/celticpride_bucket/Lakers_Rock__Roll.gif)

:rofl :rofl :rofl
:lol I love his gifs
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2010, 08:07:51 PM
Gonna be tough for the Celts to win this one. Perkins out also.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 08:51:59 PM
:(

yeah
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on June 17, 2010, 08:59:04 PM
Probably blasphemous to be a Kings fan pulling for the Lakers, but I can't help myself here
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 17, 2010, 09:07:25 PM
woot!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 17, 2010, 09:24:05 PM
Looks like it'll be an even game. :D
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: OptimoPeach on June 17, 2010, 09:25:59 PM
Lakers are 6-22 :rofl
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 09:31:17 PM
Big baby is really athletic for a fat fuck. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 17, 2010, 09:35:32 PM
Celtics are shutting Kobe down, and he's not passing for shit. Lots of bad shots with players wide open on the wings

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: naff on June 17, 2010, 09:38:41 PM
Odds are against the Lakers now  :(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 09:39:09 PM
Announcers finally calling Kobe out for poor play but went back to riding his jock almost immediately.  :fbm
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 17, 2010, 09:41:14 PM
So when do the refs start calling ticky tack fouls to swing this game one way or the other
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 09:41:21 PM
Rondo needs to take it all the way to the hole.  His athleticism makes him almost unstoppable in the paint whereas his jumper is garbage, regardless of how open he is.  
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 09:45:42 PM
PD, would you ride Ellen Pompeo?  She's a certified BBC lover. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 17, 2010, 09:48:06 PM
Jack's face didn't change  :lol
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 09:53:58 PM
All momentum gone for Celtics...fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on June 17, 2010, 10:14:35 PM
Probably blasphemous to be a Kings fan pulling for the Lakers, but I can't help myself here

REPENT
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2010, 10:37:20 PM
Rooting hard for the Celtics
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Ganhyun on June 17, 2010, 10:37:34 PM
cant watch this since I'm at work, so Im stuck getting updates from you guys and 5 minutes after the fact from cnnsi.com.

Go Celtics!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Bloodwake on June 17, 2010, 10:42:07 PM
I smell a Bill Simmons wankfest coming on

 :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 17, 2010, 11:24:57 PM
As a former Sonic, Ray Allen is awesome. Go Celtics!
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: naff on June 17, 2010, 11:29:44 PM
!!!! Kobe bitches
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2010, 11:30:59 PM
It's been weird to see Ray Allen completely lose confidence in his shot this series.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: naff on June 17, 2010, 11:32:29 PM
(http://graneyandthepig.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/glendaviscry.jpg?w=400&h=350)
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 17, 2010, 11:33:55 PM
this is one of the ugliest games all playoff season
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 17, 2010, 11:34:16 PM
i hate the NBA
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 17, 2010, 11:38:03 PM
i think i now like hockey more than basketball.

Discuss.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2010, 11:38:55 PM
Lakers got this.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 11:43:59 PM
Glad I went out for dinner instead of sticking around for this crap.  I just had a feeling that the WWE decided it was the Laker's turn again. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2010, 11:48:50 PM
Close series. Pretty even teams. The Celtics are gonna look back and kick themselves for a lot of the wide open shots they missed. Especially Allen.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on June 17, 2010, 11:49:25 PM
david stern and the NBA are actually damaging the integrity of the game of basketball

nobody can make a shot or layup or anything but bailout FTs
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 11:49:45 PM
Hard to win when you're not getting FTs for the same fouls that you're being called for.  
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 11:50:52 PM
18 more FTs for one team in Game 7  :rofl

Just bring back Tim Donaghy already. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 17, 2010, 11:51:04 PM
david stern and the NBA are actually damaging the integrity of the game of basketball

nobody can make a shot or layup or anything but bailout FTs

Bitter Kings fan is bitter.

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refs have been horrible
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Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2010, 11:52:20 PM
I'll just say I disagree with you guys on all the WWE talk. But everybody is entitled to their opinion. On to the Off-season and the Lebron Sweepstakes!

Congrats to Kobe and the Lakers. Kobe has a lot of rings now. I'm not a huge Kobe guy and he had a shitty game tonight but dude has a lot of rings now.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 11:54:26 PM
Whatever, rings is just one component of evaluating a player.  Kobe did shit for his all time legacy with the sub-Pippen performance tonight.   
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on June 17, 2010, 11:58:29 PM
it will be interesting to see how fans spin what happened with Kobe

He had a horrid game, and a poor series overall. Put up stats at the cost of his team's success, but still ended up with the win. The press will go back into the Kobe love fest, because thats what it says on their mental cue cards. But I think Kobe cemented himself as sub-Jordan/Magic/Bird level with this series.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 11:59:01 PM
Lol at the number of FT in the 4th for the lakers.

Refs cooked this shit.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Rman on June 18, 2010, 12:00:37 AM
Celtics had a 13 point let and just squandered it.  You can't blame the refs for that.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 18, 2010, 12:01:08 AM
I wanted the Lakers to lose less than the Celtics, so I guess I'm...happy?

The real winners this year for the playoffs were the Oklahoma City Thunder.  That team is going to be awesome next year.


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Celtics had a 13 point let and just squandered it.  You can't blame the refs for that.

Actually, that's probably some of the "fuck the refs" crew's biggest evidence.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 12:02:15 AM
etiolate, statistical analysis have shown repeatedly and irrefutably that Kobe is simply not clutch but sports fans are too dumb to go beyond cliched logic.  At the end of the day, it is what it is.  
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on June 18, 2010, 12:02:21 AM
Celtics had a 13 point let and just squandered it.  You can't blame the refs for that.

refs + pierce isos squandered the lead

Should have just pick n rolled LA to death and hope the Refs don't overcompensate.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 18, 2010, 12:03:03 AM
Celtics had a 13 point let and just squandered it.  You can't blame the refs for that.

Rondo and Ray Allen really did in the Celtics. Rondo was the big advantage they had in this series and he just didn't play at the level needed consistently. Ray had that early great game and then just fell apart the rest of the way.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on June 18, 2010, 12:06:00 AM
And as nice as the Thunder look they won't get to the finals until they adopt the ugly sort of ball that was seen tonight. It wasn't like the rest of the series was pretty. The games ebbed and flowed on how the whistles were being blown because both teams are built to work with NBA refs. Durant gets calls, but you have to get in on 'the way' of things in the NBA to be OKed into the finals. That normally means decent sized market, playing to the refs and having the star power. Right now OKC only has one of those things.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 12:08:40 AM
Celtics had a 13 point let and just squandered it.  You can't blame the refs for that.

Rondo and Ray Allen really did in the Celtics. Rondo was the big advantage they had in this series and he just didn't play at the level needed consistently. Ray had that early great game and then just fell apart the rest of the way.

That's what jobbers are supposed to do when putting over the opponent. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 18, 2010, 12:13:50 AM
The officiating was inconsistent, but this was a pure win for the Lakers. They weren't handed the game by the refs. Lakers were more physical and dominated the boards. The refs started early with the no-calls, letting physical play rule. At that point I figured eventually ticky tack fouls would swing the momentum one way or another. But overall the ticky tack fouls didn't take over.

Bryant played very poorly. But then again, if his teammates were better we'd be talking about him recovering with a nice triple double. Instead Gasol and others kept missing shots.

Great game from Artest
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 12:15:45 AM
How the fuck do no-calls lead to 37 FTS? 

bandwagoning piece of trash!   >:(
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: ManaByte on June 18, 2010, 12:27:35 AM
Dumbass Laker "fans" are already rioting in downtown LA.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on June 18, 2010, 12:38:54 AM
we gonna have to get you a less despicable team Saudi man
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 12:55:17 AM
Wrath2x and PD, let's meet up at Summer Slam. 
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 18, 2010, 12:58:30 AM
Adam Morrison has more championships than Karl Malone  :fbm
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on June 18, 2010, 02:54:52 AM
I found this series very interesting for its use as a case study of how NBA officiating and the playoffs work. A game where "they let them play" lead to Celtics success while tightly whistled games lead to Lakers success. Even within the final game, the quarter with the most whistles was the Lakers best quarter.

Both teams were physical from the start, so it was not an aggressor thing. That excuse will get flown out there for the refs, but shot charts and the game don't back it up. The Celts took 39% of their shots from outside, while the Lakers took only three percent less, making for 36% of their shots from outside. The Lakers took four more threes than the Celts. Somehow that earned LA more than double the FTAs than Boston. Garnett took 13 shots, most of those coming inside and ended up with 1 FTA. Gasol had 16 attempts, most of those coming inside and got 13 FTAs.

The series swayed game to game in what fouls were called. There was little consistency in anything than other how each team benefited when the calls favored their playstyle, and it is their playstyle that was molded around how the NBA game is called. It was also interesting to see Kobe still try to get the same calls as a perimeter based player now rather than the slasher he was a few years ago.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 18, 2010, 04:46:12 AM
Gasol had 18 rebounds, half of which were on the offensive side. Compared to Garnett's 3 rebounds. It's not surprising that Gasol went to the foul line more. Plus Gasol's scores weren't limited to a bunch of jump shots. The Lakers played a more physical game and dominated both sides of the boards. Why is it surprising they shot more FTs?
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: etiolate on June 18, 2010, 05:26:40 AM
Because they didn't play a more physical game. Both teams were brutally physical from the start. Garnett and Rasheed were battling inside as well. They were just outsized often and Kobe + Artest helped on the boards more than Rayray was helping KG. The board difference wasn't for lack of going inside, but for lack of size.

There was a sequence where KG got fouled going straight to the rim and it was ruled a clean block by Gasol and on the other end Gasol shoots a fadeaway and gets a phantom +1.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Brehvolution on June 18, 2010, 09:05:08 AM

There was a sequence where KG got fouled going straight to the rim and it was ruled a clean block by Gasol and on the other end Gasol shoots a fadeaway and gets a phantom +1.

Yep. Replay clearly showed that Gasol got ALL hand but no call. I can't blame this all on the refs though. Celts missed a bunch of easy shots and decided to jump shoot their way to a loss.

Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2010, 10:25:20 AM
Because they didn't play a more physical game. Both teams were brutally physical from the start. Garnett and Rasheed were battling inside as well. They were just outsized often and Kobe + Artest helped on the boards more than Rayray was helping KG. The board difference wasn't for lack of going inside, but for lack of size.

There was a sequence where KG got fouled going straight to the rim and it was ruled a clean block by Gasol and on the other end Gasol shoots a fadeaway and gets a phantom +1.

It wasn't lack of size...it was KG and Rasheed vs Pau and Odom most of the night! Mark Jackson had it right - the Celtics bigs were getting the stops 'cause they played great physical D. It's just that they have old man legs and can't jump and catch it with both hands in traffic as well as they used to. THAT'S where the Lakers made it up - after the Celtics had stopped the initial play.

Kobe getting the Finals MVP was a bit ironic after that stinker. He had cottonmouth all the way up 'til Fisher hit that 3.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2010, 10:39:44 AM
Anyway, I was rooting hard for the Celtics like I did in '08, but I'm not that broken up that the Lakers won, surprisingly. They played HARD, they took back an incredibly tough game from behind, and it ended up being a great series, if unconventionally so. It's been a long time since I've seen defense so brutal that great offensive players couldn't even get a BAD shot off, and ended up having to let the likes of Artest carry the offense.

Rondo is one of the most electric athletes in sports, but he still needs another year or two in the oven, it seems. If he had a solid jumper and FT shooting, this series would have been done in 6. Sadly, this might have been his last good shot at the Finals for a while.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2010, 10:51:07 AM
oh yeah, and thanks to manabyte for spoiling the game for me with his distinguished mentally-challenged LA riots thread smh

3 of 7 finals results spoiled for me, despite staying off ESPN, news sites, Facebook, twitter, avoiding this thread etc. It's hard to stay uninformed these days.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 18, 2010, 12:18:27 PM
6-24 last night for Kobe

I don't ever wanna hear Jordan comparisons again. Mr. Queensbridge came through hard for them last night.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 12:35:12 PM
6-24 last night for Kobe

I don't ever wanna hear Jordan comparisons again. Mr. Queensbridge came through hard for them last night.
.

At least you're in NY.  I've to hear this crap all the time in LA.   :-\
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Beezy on June 18, 2010, 12:47:50 PM
Kobe dickriders are everywhere and they're all extremely vocal. Fuckin annoying especially half of them are bandwagoners.
Title: Re: The Official Thread of the NBA Playoffs
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 01:08:23 PM
Wrath2X "just happens" to like all the winning teams like Lakers, Brazil football team, Yankees, etc.