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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: The Business on April 23, 2010, 01:50:55 AM

Title: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Business on April 23, 2010, 01:50:55 AM
Sometime last Tuesday, I conducted an explosive interview with the young Saudi Prince known to us as Jinfash.  Intending to preserve his answers for posterity, I asked incisive questions of a man I honestly believe will be the next Sayyid Qutb.  That is to say, he'll inspire a generation of men that will change the world while he will most likely die in prison.

His answers were fascinating, astounding...I even intended to turn the interview into a booklength project, similar to Hitchcock/Truffaut.  Unfortunately, Jinfash had other plans.  Jinfash became convinced that Wrath and I were plotting against him, trying to steal the affections of female board member, elektriluv.  He did not want his chances compromised.  So, he destroyed the interview and made several quasi-threatening phone calls.

The interview seemed to have been lost to the sands of time, but no more.  Finally, the redacted interview that Jinfash DOES NOT WANT YOU TO READ, is available here, unexpurgated, for the first second or third time.  Jinfash discusses his views on terrorism, the World Economic Forum at the Dead Sea, oil, and the global economic crisis.

Here, for the first time umpteenth time, is the complete interview with the most influential and beautiful-eyed Arab since Haifa Wehbe.

Note: Interview conducted in Arabic as it is Jinfash's first language and I wanted him to be able to really express himself.  As you can plainly see from the unprecedented eloquence of his answers, this was a very wise choice.






Conversations with Arabs: Jinfash Interview




سؤال: معروف عنك في العالم العربي انك القائد الاقتصادي لهذه المملكة، بصفتك رئيس مجلس التنمية الاقتصادي الذي تطرق كثيرا عن التنمية الاقتصادية ورؤية البحرين الاقتصادية 2030، وبعد هذه المسيرة .. هل بامكاننا القول ان هناك خطوات هامة وتطور ملموس على هذا الصعيد ام ان هذه الخطط بقيت فقط على الورق ؟


لا.. طبعا المسيرة الاقتصادية في مملكة البحرين لم تبدأ بي بل بدت بجهود كثيرة من مسئولين سبقونا في هذه المسؤولية ولازم علينا ان نذكر فقيدنا الراحل الوالد الشيخ عيسى بن سلمان الذي اسس الدولة الحديثة وبمازرة كبيرة في ذلك من صاحب السمو الملكي الامير خليفة بن سلمان رئيس الوزراء اذ ان بناء البحرين بدأ مباشرة من بعد الاستقلال، ولما تقلدت هذه المسؤولية اليوم وجدت قاعدة قوية فبنيت عليها.

س: ما هى اهم الانجازات التي تحققت في هذه الفترة .. فى هاتين السنتين كيف نستطيع
ان نحس ان هناك شئ قد تغير؟


ج .. اذا اردنا ان نتحدث عن الرؤية لابد من التعرف على مبادىء الرؤية حيث مبادىء الرؤية الاساسية ترتكز على ان كل خطواتنا تعتمد عليها وهى تعتمد على ثلاثة عناصر يجب ان نكرسها لدى كل مواطن ومسئول اولهم التنافسية . وهذا من عقيدتنا وايماننا ان التنافس هو الذي اوصل الناس الى انتاجية اكثرو الى ابتكار اكثر (يعني ميزان رأسمالي حر) نعم حر ولكن ضمن القيود الى تضمن المبدأ.. وثاني هذه العناصر واهمها هو عنصر العدالة، لان التنافس دون عدالة يمكن ان يؤدي الى فروقات كبيرة في المستوى المعيشي او في الحقوق.


س.. سمو الامير العدالة يعني ان الكل لهم حظ او الفرصة ان يتنافسوا. ؟

ج .. كل الفرص مفتوحة للجميع ولكن العدالة تعني اشياء اخرى، وهي نظام قضائي ممتاز، و فرص معيشية كريمة من ناحية الاسكان و الصحة و التعليم، فالفرص يجب ان تكون متكافئة
والمبدأ الثالث او العنصر الثالث هو الاستدامة، اذا كنا اليوم نعتمد على الطفرة النفطية فاننا غداً لن نستطيع الاستمرار ، ومثال على ذلك اذا اردنا ان نتحدث عن الاستدامة لابد ان نتحسس ذوي الحاجة الفعلية الذين يجب ان يحصلوا على الدعم المطلوب والعمل على مساعدتهم اما اذا ذهب هذا الدعم كما في بعض الدول الى الغني والفقير على قدم المساوة فهذا يعني ان حصة الاسد من الدعم تذهب للاغنياء وليس للفقراء ..

س: هذه نوع من الاشتراكية

 لا ابدا.

س .. هذا يعني اشبه بالضريبة الاقتصادية اذ ان الغني يدفع ضريبة اكثر بكثير من الفقير والفقير يأخذها كدعم وليست ضريبة .. انا قلت ميزان اشتراكى ولكن يشبه المنطق في انه يدعم الفقير كي يستطيع ان يكون متساو بالفرص – اي بهذا المعنى.

.. الرأسمالية طبعا لكن الراسمالية التي ليس لها اي ضوابط او حدود ليست بالرأسمالية.

س.. هذا الذي انقذ البحرين في الازمة الاقتصادية العالمية؟
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ج .. الى حد كبير .

س.. ماهي نسبة تأثير الازمة الاقتصادية على البحرين؟
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ج .. اذا اعتمدنا النمو الاقتصادي كمعيار مهم فاننا نقول كان النمو الاقتصادي في المملكة .. بين سبعة الى ثمانية في المئة، بينما نتوقع ان نسجل نمواً بين ثلاثة الى اربعة فى المئة ، وان الاقتصاد البحريني لم يتعرض للكساد اوالترجع في النمو الاقتصادي وان ما يحدث ما هو الا انخفاض في النسبة.

س.. وماذا عن المصارف وانزعاجها ؟

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ج .. اعتقد ان مؤسسات القطاع الخاص عليها ان تتعامل مع هذه الازمة وفقا لادارتها ومهاراتها .
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سؤال: سمو الامير تقول عصر النفط انتهى ماالذي كنتم ترمون اليه سموكم ؟

الجواب
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لابد ان نؤسس اقتصاديات مبنية على عناصر متعددة وغير معتمدة على عنصر واحد هو النفط، فيجب علينا كمسؤولين ان نبني اقتصادا لمواطنينا، قادرا على ان يقدم لهم الحياة الكريمة، .. يعني اهم مبدأ في الرؤية 2030 هو ان المواطن هو المحور الاساسي للتنمية اذ يجب علينا ان نخلق منظومة اقتصادية بناءة تخدم هذا المواطن وتجنب بلدنا ومواطنينا الازمات وتعمل على تدعيم استقراره وتلبية احتياجاته ...

س.هل لانكم في البحرين اقل ثراءا من الدول المحيطة ؟
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ج.. لا ان عدم وجود ثروة كبيرة لدينا قد يسبب مشكلة اكبر ولكن هذا ليس هو وجه المقارنة و لا اعتقد ان المقارنة بيننا يجب ان تكون على هذا المستوى اذ اننا في مملكة البحرين اعتدنا على مستوى دخل معين ونبني على ما بايدينا ونحن لا ننظر الى جيراننا حقيقة ولكن ننظر بما حبانا
الله به من الخير فبنينا عليه وانشاء الله سوف نبنى عليه اكثر.

سؤال: سمو الامير في تقرير طويل با (لمون دبلوماتيك )عن البحرين، عن اهميتها الاقتصادية يقول التقرير ان البحرين حاولت في نظامها المصرفى ان تكون مكان بيروت .. التي عرفت بنظام مصرفي حقيقى ولكن البحرين لديها مشكلة قوية هي البطالة والفقر، وهناك الكثير من التقاريربهذا الموضوع؟

الجواب
: البطالة الان قليلة جدا .... يعنى تطلعنا لتعامل مع هذا الواقع والعمل على حله و هذا من انجازاتنا الكبيره و الحقيقه اننا فى مجلس التنمية الاقتصادي وبتوجيه من جلالة الملك شخصيا وحين البدء في البرنامج الاصلاح الاقتصادي فى بداية الالفيه وجدنا انه بالرغم من النمو الاقتصادى الكبير كان الاعتماد كليا على القطاع العام للتوظيف .. لذا قمنا بتنشيط القطاع الخاص ودعمه ليأخذ مكانته الصحيحة فى المعادلة بسياسات كانت الداعمة للتدريب وبالمتابعة من قبل الجهات المسؤوله فى هذا القطاع استطعنا ان نوظف الشباب الذين كانوا يواجهون صعوبات فى الحصول على عمل ويمكن ان نقول الان اننا مسرورون بالنتائج ولابد من الاستمرار على هذا النحو

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س/ سمو الامير الارقام تشير الى الرواتب تتراوح بين 300 دينار او 200 كحد ادنى ؟
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ج .. حين امر جلالة الملك حفظه الله ورعاه بمشروع الاصلاح الاقتصادي كانت الرواتب لا تتجاوز 110 دينار اي اننا حققنا تقدما نوعيا .

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س.. سموكم تعتبر ان مملكة البحرين في حلها لمشكلة البطالة تتقدم تقدما كبيرا ؟

ج.. انا اعتبرانه تقدم كبير وانجاز الحقيقه اننا استطعنا التعامل مع
هذا الواقع تعامل جيد .

س.. سمو الامير هل لسموكم ان تحدثنا عن هذا الموضوع بشئ من التفصيل ؟
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ج.. نعم ان المؤشر المهم هو النمو الاقتصادى ومنذ ان استلمنا مسئوليات مجلس التنمية الاقتصادية ضاعفنا نسبة النموالاقتصادى وهذا انجاز انا فخور به وشاكرأً لجميع من دعمنا فى هذه المسيرة المباركة لانها فى نهاية الامر المواطن البحرينى هو المحور الاساسي لاى برنامج تنموى لقد استطعنا من ترتيب عملية الاشراف على القطاع المصرفى والمالى وحررنا سوق الاتصالات ووفرنا خدمات باسعار اقل وبنوعية متعددة اكثر وتقنيه عاليه .. واستطعنا ان نجذب الى البحرين استثمارات كبيرة فى مجال القطاع البنكى والتامين وفى بعض الصناعات المرتبطة بقطاع الالومنيوم .. واستطعنا ان نخصص الميناء الجديد ميناء خليفة الذي تم افتتاحه مؤخرا والان بصدد ربطه مع منظومة الجسر والمطار و بدأنا بمشروع شامل واوجدنا صندوق العمل تمكين براس مال 100 مليون دينار لدعم المواطن البحرينى فى التدريب.. واستطعنا ان ندشن برنامج شامل لتطوير التعليم فى المملكة مبنى على خمسة محاور .. وخلقنا جهاز مستقل للرقابة على المدارس و اسسنا بولوتكنيك جديد وهي جامعة مهنية خاصة .. ودشنا برنامج لاصلاح المدارس الثانوية من ناحية امكانيات واساليب التعليم داخل المدارس ..و اسسنا كلية للمعلمين .. ورتبنا اوضاع جامعة البحرين .. فهذه هي المحاور الخمسة استطعنا ان ننطلق بها باسم التنمية الاقتصادية لان اى شعب متعلم هو شعب منتج .

س/ سمو الامير كيف تتواصل مع الناس والشعب .. ؟

ج .. بالزيارات الى مجالس الناس و المشاركة معهم فى الافراح والاحزان وهذه عاداتنا وتقاليدينا
 
س/ سمو الامير انت راض عن الديمقراطية فى البحرين؟

ج/ نحن راضون تماما عن انجازنا الديمقراطي .

س/ سمو الامير من الذي يشرع ويقر القوانين المجلس المعين او المجلس المنتخب خاصة ان للبحرين مجلسين شورى ونواب ؟

ج/ هو الحقيقه ان للمجلسن الية النظر في القوانين وتسيير العملية التشريعية على هذا النحو وهناك تعاون كبير بين المجلس الوطني بغرفتيه الشورى والنواب فالكل له حقوق فى هذا المجال في تمرير القوانين . لوصار خلاف بين الاثنين يجتمعون ويصوتون جميعا

س/ في الامور الكبيرة كالتطبيع مع اسرائيل مثلاً من يقرر؟

ج/ نحن لم نصل بعد الى هذا الجسر لنعبره لكن الامور السياديه كالدفاع والخارجية لها خصوصيات للقرارات المتخذة بشأنها ،ومجلس النواب شريك فى قضية وعملية التشريع وهذا دوره الصحيح لن نخلطه مع النظام البرلمانى البريطانى او الجهاز التنفيذي والجهاز التشريعى مشتقين من نفس البيت. فمجلس النواب مجلس يختص اولا واخيرا فى التشريع وعن طريق التشريع يشارك فى صناعة القرار مثلا لاتوجد ميزانية دون قانون للميزانية.. وليس هناك برنامج صحي دون قانون للصحة او برنامج عقاري من ناحية الاسكان او الزراعة او اي شيىء .

س/ وجود القاعدة الامريكية فى البحرين من يقرره ومن يعطى الاذن له؟

ج/ هناك اتفاقية بين مملكة البحرين والولايات المتحدة الامريكية منذ 1946 تنظم وجود هذه القاعدة فاذا نظرنا لهذا الامر فى تلك الفترة هي عملية دستورية مثل اى عمليه اخرى وهناك ايضا اتفاقية امنيه بين البلدين مضى عقود طويلة عليها .

س/ يعنى هل تلغى من مجلس النواب .. ام تلغى من الحكومة يوما ما .. انا اضرب مثلا لاعرف مدى الصلاحيات ؟

ج/ اذا كان الموضوع القاعدة الامريكية او سعر الخبز فهي سيان اذ ان العملية الدستورية واضحة. يقترح قانون من قبل الدولة من قبل مجلس الشورى او من قبل مجلس النواب يمرر على الجميع وبعد تمريره على الجميع وموافقة الجميع يرفع الى جلالة الملك للتصديق بدون توقيع جلالة الملك حفظه الله على هذا الوثيقه لا تعد نافذة هذا هو دستورنا

س: سمو الامير هناك اشاعات نقرائها ام حقائق حول ما يثار عن التجنيس للسنة في البحرين؟

ج .. اشاعات مبالغ فيها لا توجد دولة قادرة على الاستغناء عن التجنيس بحكم احتياجاتها ولكن هذا الموضوع أصبح حساسا للاشاعات التي روج لها البعض بان عملية التجنيس هي عملية لاعادة توازن طائفة ضد طائفة.. ديموغرافيا واستغلوها. كل دولة فى العالم على اساس تكسب خبرات ومهارات تلجأ للتجنيس السوءال هل نظامنا للتجنيس معصوم من الخطأ طبعا لا ممكن ان تكون هناك تجاوزات ولكن لا يعني ذلك اغلاق هذا الباب او فتحه على مصراعيه ولكن من الاولى نعيد النظر فى سياستنا ونضع سياسة تخدم مصالح البحرين وليس مصالح فئة على فئة ولا مزايدات على مزايدات .

س .. يعنى مصلحة البحرين في توازنها الديموغرافى؟

ج .. مصلحة البحرين ان نخلق مجتمع عادل و تنافسى وقادر على الاستدامة التي تضمن للمواطن ان يعيش حياة كريمة ويتاكد بان مستقبل (عياله ) أفضل من الحياة التي هو عاشها هذا الذي انا اريده بعيد عن الطائفية والمزايدات.

س .. كان هذا واقع المنطقة وليس واقع البحرين فقط ؟

ج ..ان في البحرين ولله الحمد قيادة قادرة على تحقيق التوازن رغم كل الصعوبات بالروح الانسانية البحرينية وبالتسامح والاخلاق الدينية التى تسمح لنا ان نتعايش فى مكان واحد فى بيت امن أما ان نسمح لاشخاص يدخلون الى البحرين ويجرونا فى حديث او ان نتجنى على فئة أو نتهم اخرى بتصرف أخر فهذا يعنى الطريق الى الكارثة لان قبل هذه المشكلات عشنا مئات السنين فى هذه المملكة وتعايشنا مئات السنين معا هل يوجد طوال هذه السنين مشكلات .
هناك مشكلات طبعا لكنها من النوع البسيط والعادي واليومي وتحدث عادة . المبالغات والمزايدات التي لا تمت للحقيقة وهي بعيدة عن واقع البحرين انا الان ساكون واقعى فى كلامى لأن البحرين لها خصوصية زوارنا يخرجون بانطباع بان البحرين بلد فيها نوع من الروح الخاصة والترحيب الخاص وانا فخور بهذا لأن من لا يعز وطنه ولا يعز عاداته وتقاليده هو ضائع فى هذا العالم فبالعكس انا مطمئن ان عملنا فى بناء جسور الثقة و الاستمرار فى تكريس العدالة فى المجتمع من اسكان وتربية وصحة وتعليم وفرص
عمل و متابعة من يخل بالنظام لأن طبعا من الضرورى ان نواجه من يحاول ان يقلب هذا الميزان واننا سنعمل على تحقيق ما نريده بقيادة جلالة الملك القادرة والحكيمة و الحقيقة انا مطمئن ان اوضاعنا طيبة وممتازة .

س .. كان جلالة الملك قد دعا الى طاولة حوار وطنى اين وصلت ؟

ج .. جلالة الملك المفدى امر بحوار دائم وتلبية لامر جلالته نحن في حوار دائم

س .. كيف تسير عملية حوار دائم؟

ج .. باجتماعات متصلة بين القيادات والمسؤولين فى المدن والقرى وبين ممثلي الشعب المنتخبين وبين اعيان الشعب و كبار شيوخ الدين والرجال الذين خدموا المجتمع ..كما تعلمين ان عملية اتخاذ القرار في البحرين ليست عملية فوقية بل تخضع للمشاركة الكاملة من كافة المعنيين اي ان قراراتنا الوطنية راي نجتمع عليه .

س.. لنستوضح اكثر عن الموضة القائمة في العالم العربي مفادها ان شيعة العرب مدعومون من ايران ؟ كقصة الحوثيين باليمن هل وضع الشيعة في البحرين ينطبق عليهم ذلك ؟

ج .. هل نصبغ كل العرب الشيعة بصباغ التهمة بتبعيتهم لايران..

س .. العرب عملوا غلطة مع العراق كبيرة بهذا الموضوع

ج ..واضح انك تقصدين بالشيعة المذهب الجعفري .

س .. نعم ،، صحيح

ج ..في المذهب الجعفري فان الخلاف بيننا وبينهم كأهل الجماعة نحن واتباع المذهب الجعفري هو ان الخلاف بيننا وبينهم فقط هو خلاف فقهي محصور في طريقة الاستنباط من احكام الشريعة فقط هل يبرر هذ&
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 23, 2010, 01:51:29 AM
Fascinating.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 01:51:46 AM
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Ichirou on April 23, 2010, 01:52:34 AM
They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. 8)
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 01:53:37 AM
I LOL'ed :-*
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 23, 2010, 01:53:52 AM
I'm not surprised about the part about anal fisting part. 
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 01:54:40 AM
I'm not surprised about the part about anal fisting part

I'm not surprised to see you continue to rape the English language :usacry
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: tehjaybo on April 23, 2010, 01:55:06 AM
I DONT READ TERRORIST.

HOW ABOUT POSTING IN AMERICAN.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Ichirou on April 23, 2010, 01:55:24 AM
I should maybe interview Jinfash for real.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Veidt on April 23, 2010, 01:55:31 AM
 holy shit :rofl :rofl:rofl:rofl
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 01:56:43 AM
Interview Wrath next!
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 01:57:07 AM
I should maybe interview Jinfash for real.

Why? I thought you were only going after controversial members.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 01:58:28 AM
Business, did you convert to islam after being in the Iraq/Afghanistan war? What brought you to Islam? Or is it merely just an interest in the arabic language?
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 23, 2010, 01:58:55 AM
I'm not surprised about the part about anal fisting part

I'm not surprised to see you continue to rape the English language :usacry

The part in the interview about the role (other wise know as a "part" in hollywood terms movie-boy) in an anal fisting movie.  Clearly this is what I meant.  I just for got an article or two.  That's all.   
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 01:59:08 AM
'Controversial':
drew
Saint Cornelius
mupepe

Actually I want himu's thoughts on many things.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Ichirou on April 23, 2010, 01:59:23 AM
Jinfash is fucking vanilla, man.  He's utterly inoffensive.

Okay, here is my list of potential interviews:

Cheebs
Himuro
Green Shinobi
Professor Prole
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 01:59:56 AM
Jinfash is so square I forget he's even a member of this forum. Or maybe I have him on ignore ???
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:00:08 AM
'Controversial':
drew
Saint Cornelius
mupepe

Actually I want himu's thoughts on many things.

I don't get it. Explain this to me.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 02:01:18 AM
You seem to be 'that crazy black guy' on these forums.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:01:44 AM
I guess.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:03:13 AM
I'm drunk right now, so if you wanna interview me now's your chance.

Too late, I"m going to bed.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:03:18 AM
Ichi's list is all people who would give entertaining interviews. And then FP picks drew. That interview would be like six lines long, maximum, and the clashing "wit" of two raging nihilists would probably create a black hole in the middle of these internets.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 02:03:58 AM
Cheebs is so vanilla he makes PD look like chocolate.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Ichirou on April 23, 2010, 02:06:26 AM
Squiggly lines are not controversial.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:07:56 AM
let's see if i can remember my muslim prayers

wa subhankallah wabi handika watabara kasmuka wa'tallah hamduka something somethingggggg allahhhhhhh

controversial!
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:09:22 AM
Whoa, Google Chrome translated the quotes for me. I was hoping they were actually things taken from/about EB in disguise, not just random ranting about capitalism  :'(
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:09:54 AM
chrome has offered to translate for me, but has been incapable of doing so.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 02:10:31 AM
Art & cheeseburger's: A round table discussion with Michigan Bore & Himu moderated by Ichirou. :tophat
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:10:53 AM
hahahaha
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:12:54 AM
Whoa, Google Chrome translated the quotes for me. I was hoping they were actually things taken from/about EB in disguise, not just random ranting about capitalism  :'(

Well I was hoping for more than narcissism out of your interview, but I guess I was pretty disappointed as well.  :'(

Kind of hard to avoid narcissism when most of the questions are asking you about personal theories and such ;)
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:13:41 AM
shake, let me edit a film of yours. Willco will write, you will direct, I will edit. It would preferably be a porn.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:16:13 AM
If only Shake had the poise and dignity of Jinfash.   :-\

Where's the vid of Jinfash screaming like a cute little boy getting his butt plucked by a black man because a spider is on him?
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:18:08 AM
If only Shake had the poise and dignity of Jinfash.   :-\

Yeah, then no one would notice me.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:18:12 AM
Q: Was that interview legit or a complete fabrication? Also, did interview him in Arabic?
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Diunx on April 23, 2010, 02:18:45 AM
Wow, that bit about arab's bathroom rites is fascinating.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:20:10 AM
Jinfash, you know Spanish?
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Veidt on April 23, 2010, 02:20:41 AM
Shake is a film maker? What films have you done brotha?
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:21:24 AM
Shake is a film maker? What films have you done brotha?

Amateur :shh

spoiler (click to show/hide)
porn :-*
[close]
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:21:46 AM
He made a documentary on overcoming his Burger King addiction.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 02:25:38 AM
Jin is from Bahrain how interesting....
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:27:16 AM
Have you heard of Shopping in the grocery store with my friend Jake?

Jake who? Cheebs? :lol

That's not Cheebs. I've never even met Cheebs in person. I have actual friends outside of Evilbore :shh
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 02:28:03 AM
Shake is a film maker? What films have you done brotha?
he did some pa work on inglorious basterds, he has some awesome stories
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:29:07 AM
Shake is a film maker? What films have you done brotha?
he did some pa work on inglorious basterds, he has some awesome stories

Too Hot for the Bore, though :shh
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 02:29:22 AM
The Burger King is not real.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 02:32:10 AM
Have you heard of Shopping in the grocery store with my friend Jake?
Oh god that ugly friend of shakes you thought was me?
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: TEEEPO on April 23, 2010, 02:33:09 AM
Have you heard of Shopping in the grocery store with my friend Jake?
Oh god that ugly friend of shakes you thought was me?

i don't see why it couldn't be you
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:33:32 AM
Have you heard of Shopping in the grocery store with my friend Jake?
Oh god that ugly friend of shakes you thought was me?

i don't see why it couldn't be you

Have you seen what he looks like?

Jesus, you trolls are fucking dumb :lol
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 02:35:05 AM
Oh heaven forbid we don't know everything about your social lives!
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: TEEEPO on April 23, 2010, 02:38:22 AM
exactly.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 02:38:56 AM
Youf of today. Narcassitic bastards.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:39:03 AM
So basically you see any random person in a video and just assume it's a poster on Evilbore? Do you guys get out much? :lol
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 02:39:35 AM
Kentcukybore is like that!
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:39:36 AM
Haha how the fuck would I know Cheeb's name or what he looks like?

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k228/GlennEmolove/boys/LeifGarrett/leif66.jpg)
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:40:24 AM
Haha how the fuck would I know Cheeb's name or what he looks like?

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k228/GlennEmolove/boys/LeifGarrett/leif66.jpg)

(http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7925492124/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/05/09/body_left_blonde.jpg)
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: TEEEPO on April 23, 2010, 02:40:54 AM
lol what part of I didn't know Jake was Cheebs's real life name do you not get, 60-posts-per-day?

Jesus, you trolls are fucking dumb  :lol
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:41:33 AM
lol what part of I didn't know Jake was Cheebs's real life name do you not get, 60-posts-per-day?

Oh, so you just can't read? I clearly typed Jon.

Nice try back-peddling on your non-troll, dickhead. ::)
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:41:42 AM
Haha how the fuck would I know Cheeb's name or what he looks like?

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k228/GlennEmolove/boys/LeifGarrett/leif66.jpg)

(http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7925492124/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/05/09/body_left_blonde.jpg)

cheebs after a 100 dollar haircut

(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f395/ControllerOfTime/Final%20Fantasy/Cloud%20Strife/ac_cloudshades_800.jpg)
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 02:42:28 AM
I am not blonde!
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:42:49 AM
Yes you are!
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 02:43:18 AM
Yes you are!
lol I think I would know.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:43:22 AM
Uh, Cheebs is way more badass than that

(http://stevenlefebvre.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/dennisrodman.jpg)
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 02:44:15 AM
What is on his arms?
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:44:25 AM
Shake, why are you ruining this thread?  Is it because it wasn't about you?  :(

No, it's because you keep trying to troll me and you suck so much at it.

At least be clever about it, like Prole. :'(
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:45:30 AM
the tool he's going to strangle the next white bitch who walks into his dressing room with

all those photos behind him are women he has killed in the past
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 02:46:38 AM
Mexicans aren't worthy of attention.

the tool he's going to strangle the next white bitch who walks into his dressing room with

all those photos behind him are women he has killed in the past
:lol
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:47:12 AM
This thread was clearly trolling Ichi, but you wanted it to be about you.  Why don't you give Ichi some time in the spotlight?  :(

You started it, dude.

Whoa, Google Chrome translated the quotes for me. I was hoping they were actually things taken from/about EB in disguise, not just random ranting about capitalism  :'(

Well I was hoping for more than narcissism out of your interview, but I guess I was pretty disappointed as well.  :'(

Then again, it's been established that you can't read and are probably mildly distinguished mentally-challenged, so all is forgiven :'(

Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Himu on April 23, 2010, 02:48:09 AM
Mexicans aren't worthy of attention.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1054/165/55/30318028/n30318028_34575252_3382.jpg)

BLONDE
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 02:49:35 AM
Mexicans aren't worthy of attention.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1054/165/55/30318028/n30318028_34575252_3382.jpg)

BLONDE
Black and white! And that pic is 4 years old  :lol
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:50:59 AM
Cheebs looks like something straight out of a John Hughes movie

(http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs388.snc3/23694_680217636544_30318028_37618649_3604322_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 02:51:52 AM
So Cheebs is starwberry blonde? Or is it auburn?
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 02:53:08 AM
So Cheebs is starwberry blonde? Or is it auburn?
Neither! I shall take a up close pic of hair to prove it but I am too lazy and tired right now. This thread has gotten odd.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 02:53:48 AM
I really don't care :shh
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:54:01 AM
This thread has gotten sexy :-*
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Cheebs on April 23, 2010, 02:54:57 AM
People's odd obsession with me just proves why ichi needs to interview me
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 02:56:18 AM
People care more about their perceptions about you than the real you though it seems :'(

Little seven year old baby Cheebo, riding in the back of mommy's minivan blasting Obama's inauguration speech on audio cassette :rock
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: TEEEPO on April 23, 2010, 03:06:41 AM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/11bq3rb.jpg)

to all future thread starters, i advise you minimize the chances of having your hard work and potentially great thread ruined within a matter of minutes by working around shake's schedule.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Ichirou on April 23, 2010, 03:07:36 AM
Shitbin.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 03:08:22 AM
Or try posting something of significance without taking cheap shots at me. I would rather ignore you guys than have to see you try to troll me every other thread.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Ichirou on April 23, 2010, 03:15:14 AM
How was this potentially a great thread anyway?  It's just a poorly made parody of an excellent one.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 03:17:12 AM
How was this potentially a great thread anyway?  It's just a poorly made parody of an excellent one.

It was a funny joke that got sidelined when it became clear it's maker was just making it for attention and out of a weird sense of jealousy.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 03:18:01 AM
Jose should interview Jose :o
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: drew on April 23, 2010, 03:21:51 AM
Ichi's list is all people who would give entertaining interviews. And then FP picks drew. That interview would be like six lines long, maximum, and the clashing "wit" of two raging nihilists would probably create a black hole in the middle of these internets.

i am funny irl, i have friends irl, more than five people consider me their best friend - again irl

you look(ed) like a piece of shit, now you just look like a wigger or something, i cant really put my thumb on it, you were a cancer in the early days of eb, and are just another addition to movie bore nowadays, i pulled the outside links thread out of the gaf dregs a couple years ago, now youre trying to turn it into a MASTER DEBATER thread of threadszzz
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Ichirou on April 23, 2010, 03:22:57 AM
I see a bunch of words and I can tell you're trying to make sentences but it's just not working.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 03:23:14 AM
Ichi :bow

And wow, people call me narcissitic after this shit?

Quote from: drew, mr. cool (irl)
i am funny irl, i have friends irl, more than five people consider me their best friend - again irl

I hope they put that on your gravestone.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 23, 2010, 03:28:36 AM
I have that effect on people :smug
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Ichirou on April 23, 2010, 03:33:53 AM
What about the truce between Green Shinobi and me? That makes up for all the hate.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 23, 2010, 03:36:03 AM
This last month on evilbore has been all about the hate.
Not much traffic, posting new threads. Tis to be expected people turn to trolling to be entertained.
Title: Re: Jinfash on Jinfash: Pretentious Interviews, Vol. 1 Part 2
Post by: naff on April 23, 2010, 04:00:36 AM
I DONT READ TERRORIST.

HOW ABOUT POSTING IN AMERICAN.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Arabic to English translationShow romanization
S. .. Prince that the Gulf Cooperation Council summit statement may support a candidate Kuwait Bahrain Can you tell us whether Mr. Mohammed Al Mutawa, Secretary-General will be the Gulf Cooperation Council in 2011?

C .. Yes, if God wanted it is located is the Secretary-General

S. .. Where did the bridge project linking the Kingdom of Bahrain and Qatar

C .. Project is being implemented and there is a competent authority to follow up this project.

S. .. Become a country of Bahrain and the two bridges

C .. Why not, God willing, a bridge for the region and the world

S. .. We have in Lebanon, an area called Mesopotamia Forums we are proud of it comes to Bahrain Bahrain and now sees two bridges

(This part of the interview did not survive.)

S. .. Prince also said at the outset the subject of The Washington Post said that politicians must show the Arabs that the Israeli media and convince the Israeli people to peace, of course you know you want nationalists considered normalization

C .. At the height of the Cold War between the United States and the Soviet Union went out and speak the opportunity and the person of others is able to accommodate, namely, that when it is right for you, and you have a just cause like the Palestinian Cause the land stolen occupation killed blackmail all the bad things in the world occurs in this region, our strong and we were afraid. .. Lee said foreign journalists will not mention of any country, said, Ye Arab cowards I asked him why he said you Yes cowards you if you were Ttwaron reality not Tjabhon why you do not are showing and talk in the media, why when you see people from your enemies is not trying to an argument and you put an end to the killing Do you are afraid of your posts on the political

S. .. Do you recognize the state of Israel right to the land of historic Palestine?

C .. We acknowledge and are committed to international legitimacy and the creation of two states living side by side and no one tells you something else, this is the decision of the Arab League and the official who tells you this talk does not lie
.
S. .. There is a saying that U.S. officials going to recover the Bahraini citizens arrested in Israel as normalization.

C .. Thank God for the return of our citizens and their safety

S. .. Was possible to use Bahrain mediated by Germany, for example

C .. To resort to a mediator as long as the result is the same

S. .. He saw the Bahraini people this

C .. Bids received, which wants to deny deny rational and who understands the political reality known and appreciated

S. .. No Israeli wants peace

C .. There are many who want peace and many others do not want to grow up and our idea of an Israeli partner viable peace with the Arabs

S. .. But the Palestinians have spoken with the Israelis and sat with them at the same table and do the negotiations and to apprise them of Zaroaaly This Heye did not give any result, O Prince?

C .. Because they eventually became disagreed or there is a difference, including Aftava I was when I wrote the article and the difference was not originally an up-to-

S. .. Yes, 5 months

C .. He has now recovered we are our responsibility, regardless of the article we are Arabs, we help our brothers the Palestinians, said elmo described and come back to the family of one and return to their brethren the Arabs and give us their point of view in the solution, God willing, hear about efforts in the coming weeks to achieve this and hope that this happen, I reassured
.
S. .. How do you feel when I saw the picture, Khaled Meshaal, Prince Saud Al-Faisal

C .. Praise be to God

S. .. What is your interpretation of the Political?

C .. Political interpretation that all Palestinians must agree and to verify their relationship with their fellow Arabs, and if they are open to the positions of reasonable and responsible, we are all supportive of them
.

Prince S. .. between you and yourself do you see that there is a Palestinian solution .. Your Highness You can see that there is not an area I want to tell you there is hope to resolve resume negotiations?

C .. Course, in Palestine and all the rights and the best solution of this difficult to achieve

S. .. In peace?

C .. At peace, but in peace, I see that

S. .. On the basis of two

C .. Yes, two states living side by side

S. .. Do you think that this subject had died and ended

C .. Is war a permanent need

S. .. Not, but two-state solution means the land of Palestine

C .. No popular demand for a Palestinian state is not something Ikhmdha this claim stems from a deep sense of patriotism does not disappear in the day and night how it ends
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S. .. Do you think that Hamas in Gaza and the Authority in the West Bank as possible, including a reconciliation to take place close to

C .. Yes, required of them must have reconciliation and reconciliation may continue to be the difference under occupation

O ... There are those who believe that Netanyahu win for Obama in the question of Palestine?

C .. Do not speak in terms that had been agreed over months the Palestinian issue not an issue of Netanyahu in Obama's case this is an issue which has had decades we all have a role in this process and the subject and the U.S. role is essential and trying at the moment and yes, the U.S. president to take an unprecedented situation in the United Nations In Cairo, and everywhere

S. .. And ended

C .. We did not end the talks, such as exists and what can you hear going on in the end, if there is agreement became America will be standing on the table, we all know that its role did not end, but a bit silent in this period
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S. .. Prince last question Are you a fan USA?

C .. I am impressed with the progress in the U.S. where many things excellent medicine, science and protection of individual rights and the ability to promote innovation and access to finance rapid conversion of ideas into reality, we must not forget that the largest economy in the world today is the United States economy, not by accident does not come from tampering This came from the structural system is mounted on each other leading to this result when our society a lot of problems there is no protection for people with limited income and there is no adequate security such as what is imposed and health for all now they talk about.

S. .. Administration's new policy you are satisfied with it

C .. Yes

S. .. Are you afraid to Bahrain

C .. From what we fear

S. .. Of regional wars affect them

C .. I am careful to Bahrain and I am not afraid of them

S. .. His Royal Highness Prince Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa, Crown Prince of Bahrain Thank you for this exclusive interview

C .. Thanks!

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