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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: ManaByte on May 08, 2010, 08:25:48 PM

Title: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 08, 2010, 08:25:48 PM
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Satoru Iwata, the Nintendo president, is understood to have told his senior executives recently to regard the battle with Sony as a victory already won and to treat Apple, and its iPhone and iPad devices, as the “enemy of the future” .


:dur :dur :dur
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 08, 2010, 08:30:22 PM
Sony will bounce back. Nintendo did. The day of reckoning will come.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 08, 2010, 08:47:45 PM
If we're looking at Nintendo as a reference, Sony won't bounce back until PS5.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 08, 2010, 08:51:13 PM
Yep :(
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: twerd on May 08, 2010, 09:35:25 PM
Sega will bounce ba...nah forget it.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Third on May 08, 2010, 09:48:57 PM
I thought only hipsters buy Apple products?
Nintendo isn't really a hipster company.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 08, 2010, 09:56:59 PM
I think it would be foolish for Nintendo to consider the battle over with.

Resting on your laurels while the enemy gets his shit together is a big mistake.

Anyways, Apple pose no immediate threat to Nintendo. Actual games will always triumph against $.99 'games'.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 08, 2010, 10:22:46 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/manabyte/e0e6f876.jpg)

Those are actual games, not .99 "games".
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: twerd on May 08, 2010, 10:30:03 PM
oh god you bought the iphone version of megaman 2?!  :lol


EDIT: I just checked and apparently capcom fixed the game. i just know it was a shoddy mess upon release
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 08, 2010, 10:33:21 PM
oh god you bought the iphone version of megaman 2?!  :lol


EDIT: I just checked and apparently capcom fixed the game. i just know it was a shoddy mess upon release

Got it during the .99 Capcom sale with G&G. Originally it was a port of the Cellphone version, but after complaints they re-did it to be the NES version. Beat it twice already.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 08, 2010, 10:43:54 PM
I came to roffle at Boggle, but


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/manabyte/e0e6f876.jpg)

Those are actual games, not .99 "games".

oh god you bought the iphone version of megaman 2?!  :lol


EDIT: I just checked and apparently capcom fixed the game. i just know it was a shoddy mess upon release

Got it during the .99 Capcom sale with G&G. Originally it was a port of the Cellphone version, but after complaints they re-did it to be the NES version. Beat it twice already.

:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 08, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
All of the EA board games are great on the iPhone/Touch/iPad, except for Clue. How they fucked that one up is a mystery.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: brawndolicious on May 08, 2010, 11:00:17 PM
apple might move in on DS territory but I can't imagine any big-budget Apple published games coming out.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: demi on May 08, 2010, 11:02:56 PM
:lol ManaByte sounds as bad as Steamfags
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 08, 2010, 11:05:18 PM
apple might move in on DS territory but I can't imagine any big-budget Apple published games coming out.

They're staffing up a games division right now.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 09, 2010, 12:27:51 AM
The same people who bash nintendo novelty machines and praise their proddy waggly ipod touch games baffle me.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 09, 2010, 12:50:22 AM
apple might move in on DS territory but I can't imagine any big-budget Apple published games coming out.

They're staffing up a games division right now.
Who cares, it's still touchscreen only.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: bachikarn on May 09, 2010, 01:00:40 AM
I think the issue is that the "non-gamers" that Nintendo has been going after would rather just get an iPad then a DS. This "war with Apple" is going to be over the non-gamers. The iPad and its apps basically do all the non-game shit that Nintendo has been pushing recently.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Rman on May 09, 2010, 01:33:27 AM
I think the issue is that the "non-gamers" that Nintendo has been going after would rather just get an iPad then a DS. This "war with Apple" is going to be over the non-gamers. The iPad and its apps basically do all the non-game shit that Nintendo has been pushing recently.
Finally, some common sense in this thread.  Nintendo is threatened by Apple due to mindshare.  All the casual DS users, can just settle for their Sudoku clones for 99 cents on their iPhones/iPods and not need to carry an extra device just to play games.  Nintendo is definitely threatened by that. 

Moreover, there is high quality stuff in the sea of garbage on the iPhone and the price advantage is ridiculous.  Peggle for the DS retails for 30 bucks MSRP and the iPhone version for a fraction of that.  If the mass market consumer get used to getting games for 5 bucks on the App Store, it will hurt Nintendo in the long run.

I still do think that Nintendo has the youth market cornered, though. 
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 09, 2010, 01:43:59 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/manabyte/e0e6f876.jpg)

Those are actual games, not .99 "games".

Those are .99 'games', here, ask Manabyte:

"Got it during the .99 Capcom sale" - Manabyte

The iPhone/iPod Touch are great Mp3 players, absolutely horrendous gaming machines.

Actually you know what, one can argue the N.Gage is more of a gaming platform than the iPhone/iTouch.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 09, 2010, 01:51:32 AM
You know what I meant when I said .98 'games'. There's a ton of crap on the ApStore that's barely considered a flash game.

But I guess Ntards have to protect the hive at all costs.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 09, 2010, 01:54:47 AM
 :derp Ntard  :derp
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 09, 2010, 01:59:33 AM
Finally, some common sense in this thread.
I really hate this term.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: magus on May 09, 2010, 05:31:30 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/manabyte/e0e6f876.jpg)

Those are actual games, not .99 "games".

call of duty zombies?
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: magus on May 09, 2010, 06:14:17 AM
uh... exactly what are these huge games being developed for iphone?
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 09, 2010, 07:04:41 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/manabyte/e0e6f876.jpg)

Those are actual games, not .99 "games".

call of duty zombies?


It's a port of Nazi Zombies from World at War.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 09, 2010, 07:06:30 AM
uh... exactly what are these huge games being developed for iphone?


Square just came out with a 3D JRPG called Chaos Rings that's exclusive to it instead of PSP.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 09, 2010, 07:21:18 AM
I think the issue is that the "non-gamers" that Nintendo has been going after would rather just get an iPad then a DS. This "war with Apple" is going to be over the non-gamers. The iPad and its apps basically do all the non-game shit that Nintendo has been pushing recently.

I agree.  Although I think Nintendo would get beaten if it tried to go up against Apple.  Nintendo generally hates people doing anything other than play games on their consoles (or more specifically, playing anything other than Nintendo games) and to go up against Apple would require a radical shift in their policy.  Nintendo won't do it.

Maybe it means the 3DS will have cheaper gimmick games but given the multifunctional iPhone, iPod, and iPad, this is a battle that Nintendo will lose.  Although they can just spin it to make it look like they don't want to compete with Apple so fanboys can bleat out to smug Apple fans that in spite of early PR :derp
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: magus on May 09, 2010, 07:27:42 AM
uh... exactly what are these huge games being developed for iphone?


Square just came out with a 3D JRPG called Chaos Rings that's exclusive to it instead of PSP.

i know of chaos rings but that's like using resident evil 4 as an example for the huge third party support that was behind the gamecube if you see what i mean...
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 09, 2010, 07:31:22 AM
It's too late for Nintendo to try to compete with Apple. Apple has the ApStore established with companies like EA and Square (who's working on an original FF for it now) and Nintendo would NEVER give up their big licensing fees to allow companies like that sell full EA Sports games or long 3D JRPGs for $10 a pop. 
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on May 09, 2010, 08:34:20 AM
The iPhone/iPod Touch are great Mp3 players

Yeah, I'm not sure about that.  I like my iPhone as a phone with some interesting gimmicks but I never could see myself using it as an Mp3 player.  That's what I got my Nano and iPod Classic for.

I really don't understand why people bother with the iPod Touch to be honest.  No phone (VOIP doesn't count), no internet access outside of a wi-fi hotspot and a lot of the useful apps require some kind of connection, shitty Mp3 player with limited capacity, and the games just aren't there yet but I'll admit they're getting better.  The iPod Touch just seems like a waste of money.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: chronovore on May 09, 2010, 11:34:10 AM
It depends on where you are. In Japan, the iPhone is carried by Softbank, and requires a 2 year contract. At any time during the coverage period, if the iPhone is lost, they'll charge your normal rate PLUS an additional 10K yen a month until the end of the contract. Alternately one can buy a new iPhone for 80K yen (it may have been 60K now, I can't recall offhand). Anyway, the contract seemed to require that I punch myself in the dick if I screw up, so I'd rather have an iPod Touch, which doesn't require it be repurchased or have punishment fees if I misplace it.

As for why I prefer it to my previous iPod 5G, it was 60GB and my Touch is 64, so no loss in volume -- and I am either at home or work, both of which offer wifi access.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 09, 2010, 11:40:25 AM
i like neat gadgets, but despise cellphones
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Van Cruncheon on May 09, 2010, 11:47:26 AM
ghosts n' goblins gold knights is so so so so so terrible
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 09, 2010, 11:48:57 AM
any game requiring any degree of precision control usually is  :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: bork on May 09, 2010, 11:51:10 AM

Got it during the .99 Capcom sale with G&G. Originally it was a port of the Cellphone version, but after complaints they re-did it to be the NES version. Beat it twice already.

No they didn't.  It's still a dumbed-down shit port.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: maxy on May 09, 2010, 12:44:42 PM
Nintendo won't go head to head with Apple,that would be stupid and it would cost to much.More subtle :ninja approach is needed,work in shadows and sabotage your competitors silently...Nintendo is good at that

They now have unique chance of totally locking Japan...ok,they rule there,but people are still buying competitor products.
Release 3DS this year and then after few months announce Wii 5D and work on getting third-party popular games(for Wii 5D,3DS is going to have them anyway).
Sony headquarters would go boom.

As for the west,competition is much stronger and Nintendo fails in online,but things can change
They have casuals,but if that group finds another gimmick to play with...well

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Shigeru Miyamoto has said that Nintendo needs to decide whether to stick with its free online gaming service or introduce a paid subscription model.

Online-compatible Wii and DS titles are currently free to play using Nintendo’s Wi-Fi Connection service, but in a recent interview Miyamoto suggested this could change.

“… Probably the other thing that we are desperate to realise is the core [online] business structure,” Nintendo’s Entertainment Analysis and Development boss told us. “Do we need to demand customers pay monthly fees to enjoy online activities? Or give an online subscription that is free of charge, but then offer something extra for people that pay, so that they get some extra value? With these core business strategies I think we are less active than we should be.”

http://www.edge-online.com/news/miyamoto-nintendo-could-charge-for-online-gaming (http://www.edge-online.com/news/miyamoto-nintendo-could-charge-for-online-gaming)

Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 09, 2010, 01:00:17 PM
yeah, free online for consoles is over next gen
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: magus on May 09, 2010, 01:08:11 PM
that would be a bad thing if... you know...
nintendo had any sort of online infrastructure to begin with
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Raban on May 09, 2010, 01:12:34 PM
I want the iPod Touch really bad, but iTunes on Windows :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2010, 04:47:13 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/arts/television/24chaos.html

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Chaos Rings is the vanguard of what Nintendo, the maker of the fabulously popular DS handheld console, and Sony, the maker of the PlayStation Portable, should have been fearing the last several years: that eventually major developers and publishers like Square Enix would start making iPhone-exclusive titles every bit as professional and polished as the games for their own systems. Chaos Rings costs $12.99 at Apple’s App Store — expensive for an iPhone game — but this product would easily find buyers at $29.99 on the DS or PlayStation Portable.

I’ll go even further. As an overall entertainment and design experience, Chaos Rings is more successful and ultimately more enjoyable than Final Fantasy XIII, the big-budget, high-definition home console blockbuster that Square Enix released in North America last month.

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What is shocking, however, is that Chaos Rings is actually more open-ended and more empowering for the player than Final Fantasy XIII. In Final Fantasy XIII the player spends dozens and dozens of hours on entirely linear paths with no ability to decide where to go or what to do next. In Chaos Rings, by contrast, you must first choose between two completely different sets of characters and different story arcs. The game soon opens up to give the player multiple choices of what sort of environments to explore and what sort of foes to battle.

After 12 hours with Final Fantasy XIII, I was already gritting my teeth at the tedium, no matter how gorgeous it was. After nearly the same amount of time with Chaos Rings this week, I’m champing at the bit to keep going. The game’s three-dimensional animation is by far the best I have seen on the iPhone.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: bork on May 09, 2010, 05:31:05 PM
I want the iPod Touch really bad, but iTunes on Windows :'(

I use iTunes on Windows.  It's fine.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 09, 2010, 08:55:42 PM
Sony really dropped the ball this gen, on all fronts.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2010, 10:08:56 PM
Nintendo as well
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 10, 2010, 03:09:33 AM
Nintendo as well

 :lol

They went from #3 to #1 and made more money this generation than both the Ps3 and Xbox 360 combined.

Sony on the other hand went from #1 to #3 and has been failing on the Ps3 since its launch. If they get lucky (i.e Project Natal fails to catch on), the Ps3 will end up surpassing the 360 and be seated in 2nd place for this gen.

Hardly a victory for a company that sold 130 million consoles last gen.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 10, 2010, 03:19:03 AM
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Apple pose no immediate threat to Nintendo. Actual games will always triumph against $.99 'games

you know why it's obvious they are a threat?

Nintendo's constant almost weekly need to try and back handedly dis Apple/iphone/ipad gaming.



Weekly Apple disses? I seem to have missed those, can you provide the weekly disses for the last 8 weeks? Should be a fun read...

...because if memory serves correct, it's been Apple taking shots at both the Nintendo Ds and PsP ever since the launch of the iPod Touch.

Hmm, I wonder why Apple has been trying to compare the iTouch to the DS and PsP at every single one of their press conferences. It's like their product isn't really meaningful to actual gamers? Like, by drawing direct comparisons to other products gives their product relevancy in the other products market?
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 10, 2010, 04:42:10 AM
Hmm, I wonder why Apple has been trying to compare the iTouch to the DS and PsP at every single one of their press conferences. It's like their product isn't really meaningful to actual gamers? Like, by drawing direct comparisons to other products gives their product relevancy in the other products market?

No, I'm sure it's more like, "Developers who are not developing on iPhone yet. Look at this. You could be making money."

No, I'm positive it's more like, "Our research has shown that we're completely irrelevant in mobile gaming in comparison to the Nintendo DS. Let's convince lactating moms that quantity > quality, cue graph with overused gradient."

Something like that.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on May 10, 2010, 10:27:26 AM
I want the iPod Touch really bad, but iTunes on Windows :'(

If that's what's stopping you from getting an iTouch then that's kind of silly because iTunes on Windows is just fine.  It may be a resource hog but the program itself runs perfectly.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 10, 2010, 10:33:32 AM
Man TripleA sucks
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: magus on May 10, 2010, 10:46:27 AM
Man TripleA sucks

i give this reply a 10/10 :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Ichirou on May 10, 2010, 10:54:38 AM
Post of the Generation?
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
Nintendo as well

 :lol

They went from #3 to #1 and made more money this generation than both the Ps3 and Xbox 360 combined.

Sony on the other hand went from #1 to #3 and has been failing on the Ps3 since its launch. If they get lucky (i.e Project Natal fails to catch on), the Ps3 will end up surpassing the 360 and be seated in 2nd place for this gen.

Hardly a victory for a company that sold 130 million consoles last gen.


I'M NOT PLAYING THE FUCKING STOCK MARKET.  I PLAY VIDEO GAMES. 

jesus the ninfags are distinguished mentally-challenged.

Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: magus on May 10, 2010, 11:19:01 AM
Nintendo as well

 :lol

They went from #3 to #1 and made more money this generation than both the Ps3 and Xbox 360 combined.

Sony on the other hand went from #1 to #3 and has been failing on the Ps3 since its launch. If they get lucky (i.e Project Natal fails to catch on), the Ps3 will end up surpassing the 360 and be seated in 2nd place for this gen.

Hardly a victory for a company that sold 130 million consoles last gen.


I'M NOT PLAYING THE FUCKING STOCK MARKET.  I PLAY VIDEO GAMES. 

jesus the ninfags are distinguished mentally-challenged.




clearly the superior sales show that wii sports is a better game than anything you HD guys play :smug
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Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Raban on May 10, 2010, 12:48:49 PM
I want the iPod Touch really bad, but iTunes on Windows :'(

If that's what's stopping you from getting an iTouch then that's kind of silly because iTunes on Windows is just fine.  It may be a resource hog but the program itself runs perfectly.

I just don't really dig iTunes that much, compared to Zune at least. But I can deal.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 10, 2010, 01:33:57 PM
Nintendo as well

 :lol

They went from #3 to #1 and made more money this generation than both the Ps3 and Xbox 360 combined.

Sony on the other hand went from #1 to #3 and has been failing on the Ps3 since its launch. If they get lucky (i.e Project Natal fails to catch on), the Ps3 will end up surpassing the 360 and be seated in 2nd place for this gen.

Hardly a victory for a company that sold 130 million consoles last gen.


I'M NOT PLAYING THE FUCKING STOCK MARKET.  I PLAY VIDEO GAMES. 


Oh, so just games?

Then the Ps3 isn't really a failure in that regard. The first year was rough, but the present library is incredible.

I'd definitely put Uncharted 2 right up there with Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario 64, and Ocarina of Time.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 10, 2010, 01:34:25 PM
Man TripleA sucks

Thanks for your input.

Your vagina is leaking though.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 10, 2010, 01:35:30 PM
Nintendo fans are proof that two nukes just weren't enough.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 10, 2010, 01:40:37 PM
We'd find something equally frivolous and credulous to displace all our nostalgic love into.  My money's on Mattel.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: magus on May 10, 2010, 01:45:05 PM
DUDE LEGO IS TOTALY BETTER THAN PLAYMOBIL
AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ARE A LOSER
GOOD DAY SIR!
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 10, 2010, 01:53:48 PM
Nintendo fans are proof that two nukes just weren't enough.

Way to keep it classy.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Skidmark on May 10, 2010, 02:06:54 PM
I really don't see how the iphone games are a threat to nintendo. Are they really?
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 10, 2010, 02:36:19 PM
make a complex $30 game for the DS, sell 3000 copies

make a tilt n' flick $1.99 game for Apple, sell 150,000 copies
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 10, 2010, 02:42:38 PM
I really don't see how the iphone games are a threat to nintendo. Are they really?

No.

The iPhone is a threat as a portable multimedia device, so realistically, it's Sony who have to up the ante with the PSP 2.

As a portable gaming platform, the iPhone is a joke compared to the DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 10, 2010, 06:48:25 PM
But anyone who has played games for years should know that right now it's stale as all hell. It would be much better to just quit and do something useful in the meantime. When things get better, we can start playing again.

I can't agree with this. A lot of the huge massive budget titles have sort of congealed into fast-paced dude-bro first-person shootering, but there's so much variety coming in through smaller developers and two-man groups and from Europe that have been plugging some of the holes left by the big-time American developers.

So the Wii has tanked from a games perspective. Okay, I think most people here agree with that. I also think most people agree with what I've said about the major Western devs as well. But it's hardly the case that they aren't making anything worth playing. I've got a whole huge list of games I'd like to be playing, I just don't have the money at the moment to get them, so I'm playing some of the smaller, cheaper titles [along with catching up on my backlog] and I don't really regret it at all.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 10, 2010, 08:57:02 PM
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As a portable gaming platform, the iPhone is a joke compared to the DS.

except it's not. Shame. At least your Blingyendough overlords aren't as dumb as their fanbase and can see that the iphone/pad are something to be concerned about.



Yeah, the iPhone is definitely on par with the DS in terms of portable gaming.

Brb, g2g lmao.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 10, 2010, 09:17:20 PM
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As a portable gaming platform, the iPhone is a joke compared to the DS.

except it's not. Shame. At least your Blingyendough overlords aren't as dumb as their fanbase and can see that the iphone/pad are something to be concerned about.



Yeah, the iPhone is definitely on par with the DS in terms of portable gaming.

Brb, g2g lmao.

You're right. It's superior to the DS both in hardware power and publisher support.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: pilonv1 on May 10, 2010, 09:30:56 PM
make a complex $30 game for the DS, sell 3000 copies

make a tilt n' flick $1.99 game for Apple, sell 150,000 copies

Make a $6 iPhone port of a $30 DS game, sell 50,0000 copies.

Everyone ignoring or negatively spinning the iPhone/iPad as gaming devices have their head in the sand. You can claim it's not a similar gaming experience, and not appealing to gamers. Which is correct, it's appealing to everyone, which is a much larger market.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on May 10, 2010, 10:14:27 PM
Wait.  Critter Crunch and Fruit Ninja were made by GAF members?

Ewww.  Now I feel dirty.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: chronovore on May 10, 2010, 10:20:18 PM
Nintendo fans are proof that two nukes just weren't enough.
Dude. Exceedingly lame.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 10, 2010, 10:23:11 PM
I really don't see how the iphone games are a threat to nintendo. Are they really?

No.

The iPhone is a threat as a portable multimedia device, so realistically, it's Sony who have to up the ante with the PSP 2.

As a portable gaming platform, the iPhone is a joke compared to the DS.

Nintendo pushed DS into the multimedia space with the introduction of DSi, and PSP games are a few degrees of separation further from the iPhone than DS games are.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: pilonv1 on May 10, 2010, 10:45:13 PM
Wait.  Critter Crunch and Fruit Ninja were made by GAF members?

Ewww.  Now I feel dirty.

Fruit Ninja is by Australiand dev Halfbrick Studios which is where Rlan from Gamerbytes works.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/10/halfbrick-shares-fruit-ninja-sales-numbers-how-to-succeed-on-th/

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Joystiq: You sent out a press release before the weekend claiming 140,000 copies sold of your iPhone/iPod Touch game, Fruit Ninja. What's the current total at?

Luke Muscat: Over 200,000 now. That's a pretty big milestone for us, we are very happy to have achieved such great success in a market that can be pretty unpredictable. If you're reading this and have purchased the game – you rule the App store!
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 11, 2010, 03:38:49 AM
make a complex $30 game for the DS, sell 3000 copies

make a tilt n' flick $1.99 game for Apple, sell 150,000 copies

eat it ninthings!

52,000 $1.99 tilt and flick games at 150,000 copies each = 7 BILLION 800 MILLION PIECES OF SOFTWARE SOLD.  Thus, iPhone quality is better than HD consoles.

Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: chronovore on May 11, 2010, 08:46:23 AM
Dude. Exceedingly lame.

http://digg.com/politics/NH_State_Rep_Anime_Example_of_Why_2_Nukes_Weren_t_Enough
Yeah, actually, I caught the reference. I just don't think it's appropriate to trot out for a laugh.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Ichirou on May 11, 2010, 09:35:55 AM
Plenty of people here have joked about bombing Japan, chronovore.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 01:04:30 PM
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Yeah, the iPhone is definitely on par with the DS in terms of portable gaming.

hey, well, i LIKE the DS a lot. Think it's got a ton of great games. But guess what? So does the iphone! Yeah i know, crazy huh?

What stuff have you played on the Iphone?

Examples.

I don't have an iPhone, but I've used my brothers Touch to play the definitive iPod game:

Scrabble.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 04:37:41 PM
Oh, a port.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 11, 2010, 04:39:45 PM
Oh, a port.
Sounds on par with the DS to me.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 05:17:21 PM
Oh, a port.
Sounds on par with the DS to me.

Actually, it sounds on par with DS games such as ChinaTown Wars being ported to other platforms.

(http://www.prasitinterprint.com/images/smiley.png)

Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: tiesto on May 11, 2010, 05:31:26 PM
Sooo... Nintendo is increasingly going after the casual market, which means shallow flash games and Farmville type shits galore.

And on the consoles, all you have is your extremely high-budget market-tested games, afraid to take risks.

What happens to the mid budget, niche, outside of the mainstream games (usually the games I like fall into this category) after all this?
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Raban on May 11, 2010, 05:33:48 PM
What happens to the mid budget, niche, outside of the mainstream games (usually the games I like fall into this category) after all this?

They go to the PC and iPhone OS.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 11, 2010, 05:38:40 PM
Oh, a port.
Sounds on par with the DS to me.

Actually, it sounds on par with DS games such as ChinaTown Wars being ported to other platforms.
???

no
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Raban on May 11, 2010, 05:41:27 PM
Hey it's TripleA shitting up another Nintendo thread. Rad.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: chronovore on May 11, 2010, 07:39:16 PM
Plenty of people here have joked about bombing Japan, chronovore.
Yeah, and I shake my head every time.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 11, 2010, 07:42:43 PM
TripleA paid a premium for portable GTA - and was damn proud of it!

Hey, it's weird that iPhone got Chinatown Wars and not Liberty City Stories, considering that it's Sony who should be worried about Apple.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 07:53:25 PM
Oh, a port.
Sounds on par with the DS to me.

Actually, it sounds on par with DS games such as ChinaTown Wars being ported to other platforms.
???

no

Yes.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 07:55:41 PM
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don't have an iPhone, but I've used my brothers Touch to play the definitive iPod game:

Scrabble.

Ah, so arguing with authority but from a position of ignorance of the subject matter?

Smells of generic nintendo fan ITT.

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Actually, it sounds on par with DS games such as ChinaTown Wars being ported to other platforms.

lol, and why did it get ported? oh that's right - shitty third party sales on a nintendo platform! What a massive surprise that was!!!


You must have missed the part where I said I played the iPods premium game offering.

Oh. But I thought only Ninfags and Wiitards brought up sales   :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 07:58:07 PM
TripleA paid a premium for portable GTA - and was damn proud of it!

Hey, it's weird that iPhone got Chinatown Wars and not Liberty City Stories, considering that it's Sony who should be worried about Apple.

I paid for a great DS game that was later ported to other platforms  :D
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 11, 2010, 08:04:57 PM
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don't have an iPhone, but I've used my brothers Touch to play the definitive iPod game:

Scrabble.

Ah, so arguing with authority but from a position of ignorance of the subject matter?

Smells of generic nintendo fan ITT.

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Actually, it sounds on par with DS games such as ChinaTown Wars being ported to other platforms.

lol, and why did it get ported? oh that's right - shitty third party sales on a nintendo platform! What a massive surprise that was!!!


You must have missed the part where I said I played the iPods premium game offering.

Oh. But I thought only Ninfags and Wiitards brought up sales   :'(

You played Chaos Rings?
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 11, 2010, 08:06:31 PM
Oh, a port.
Sounds on par with the DS to me.

Actually, it sounds on par with DS games such as ChinaTown Wars being ported to other platforms.
???

no

Yes.
iPhone getting a port of a game sounds on par with an original DS game being ported to other handhelds? Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: pilonv1 on May 11, 2010, 08:39:38 PM
Football Manager 2010 :heartbeat. Handheld one looks a bit too limited for my liking but I'm sure it's awesome.

Some others from my phone

I Dig It
Draw Race
Defender Chronicles
Star Defense
Transformers G1 Awakening
GeoDefense
GeoDefense Swarm
HomeRun Battle
Word Ace
Plants V Zombies
Zenonia
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on May 11, 2010, 09:21:02 PM
Some of the better ones from my iphone....

Space Miner: Space Ore Bust
Bookworm
Virtual Villagers 2 & 3
Peggle
Yard Sale: Hidden Treasures.....seriously, I love this series
Zenonia
Chaos Rings
Edge
Return To Mysterious Island
1112....episode 2 is FINALLY out
[youtube=560,345]IXzDjdKopa4[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: tiesto on May 11, 2010, 10:20:35 PM
Can't even begin to imagine playing ESPGaluda 2 on a touch screen...
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 10:28:53 PM
Oh, a port.
Sounds on par with the DS to me.

Actually, it sounds on par with DS games such as ChinaTown Wars being ported to other platforms.
???

no

Yes.
iPhone getting a port of a game sounds on par with an original DS game being ported to other handhelds? Am I missing something?

You're missing the part where game A (ESPGaluda) was ported to the iPod, and game B (ChinaTown Wars) was also ported to the iPod.

iPort sounds about right atm.

Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 11, 2010, 10:35:30 PM
And you're missing the part where half of the games on the DS are ports.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 10:39:08 PM
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You must have missed the part where I said I played the iPods premium game offering.

you played Scrabble - which, online, is still a great game - but hey - if you want to claim you know how the entire iphone games catalogue is off -one- title then be my guest to run around with your 'tard flag flying.

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Oh. But I thought only Ninfags and Wiitards brought up sales


you aren't - third party developers do it all the time, looks like more and more are voting with their feet too.

Case here is a little different - you're trying to make some point about a DS game being ported, when the reason it was ported was it's failure on the host platform, whilst on the iphone it's been full of win.

Weird you wouldn't mention this game-so-great-it-got-ported as one of the host of premium titles on the iphone. But hey, doesn't matter. You don't think the iphone is a threat, nintendo do, and day on day more iphone games get made, downloaded and played. Sucks for you to miss out.


Anyways, list of great portable games content on iphone , off the top of my head - there's a fuckton more:

Esp.Ga.Luda 2
Canabalt
Chaos Rings
Angry Birds
Space Invaders: Infinity Gene
Dungeon Hunter
Football Manager 2010
Field Runners
Fargoal
Bejeweled 2
Retro Defense
WordJong
Drop7





No, the case isn't different at all. But I absolutely commend you for trying to convince me otherwise.

Now, as for those great iPhone games...I really think you're joking, 'cause if you're seriously trying to tell me that the iPhone is on the same level as the DS due to WordJong and Bejeweled, then well, maybe you should get back to talking about 3rd party sales on Nintendo platforms.

As for Apple being a future threat to Nintendo, you know, maybe you're right. Maybe after a dozen more ports, the iPhone will be a viable gaming platform like/as the DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 10:39:49 PM
And you're missing the part where half of the games on the DS are ports.

Half of the DSs great games are ports?

Thanks for the laugh Beezy  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2010, 10:45:25 PM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 10:48:08 PM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.

Factually speaking, the majority of the DSs great games are not ports.

Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 10:53:15 PM
Maybe after a dozen more ports, the iPhone will be a viable gaming platform like/as the DS.

Viable in terms of what, Sales? it's already there. :lol

Hmm, I could have sworn we were talking about games.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 11, 2010, 10:53:30 PM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.
Half of the games that matter then. I'll never understand why some people try to put it on the same level as the PS2 or SNES.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2010, 10:53:52 PM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.

Factually speaking, the majority of the DSs great games are not ports.



I agree, but you have to see where Beezy is coming from. Many of the better rpg games like Shiren or FF4 are flat out remakes or ports.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 10:55:47 PM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.
Half of the games that matter then. I'll never understand why some people try to put it on the same level as the PS2 or SNES.

That doesn't play compadre, we're talking about great games - not popular games.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2010, 10:55:55 PM
I'll never understand why some people try to put it on the same level as the PS2 or SNES.

I will never get this either. Most of the people putting it on par with ps2 probably didn't have one anyways.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2010, 10:56:37 PM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.
Half of the games that matter then. I'll never understand why some people try to put it on the same level as the PS2 or SNES.

That doesn't play compadre, we're talking about great games - not popular games.

Uh, many of the games we're talking about aren't that popular.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 11, 2010, 10:58:40 PM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.
Half of the games that matter then. I'll never understand why some people try to put it on the same level as the PS2 or SNES.

That doesn't play compadre, we're talking about great games - not popular games.
I didn't say anything about popularity. If I did then shit like Scribblenauts would be included and that's hardly a game.

Real talk: DS has a lot of good games, but few great games. Most are forgotten once you're done with them.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 10:59:20 PM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.

Factually speaking, the majority of the DSs great games are not ports.



I agree, but you have to see where Beezy is coming from. Many of the better rpg games like Shiren or FF4 are flat out remakes or ports.

True, and many of the great rpg titles like TWEWY, Partners in time, 6 Pokemon games or so, etc are not ports.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2010, 11:00:57 PM

Real talk: DS has a lot of good games, but few great games. Most are forgotten once you're done with them.

agreed
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:03:30 PM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.
Half of the games that matter then. I'll never understand why some people try to put it on the same level as the PS2 or SNES.

That doesn't play compadre, we're talking about great games - not popular games.
I didn't say anything about popularity. If I did then shit like Scribblenauts would be included and that's hardly a game.

Real talk: DS has a lot of good games, but few great games.

Scribblenauts is a great Nintendo DS game, I have no doubt that Scribblenauts 2 will address some of the complaints lodged at Scribblenauts 1.

Depends on what you consider good and what you consider great.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:04:45 PM
You're using the pokemon games to support your argument? Really?

I'm dying to know what's wrong with Pokemon.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:05:59 PM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.
Half of the games that matter then. I'll never understand why some people try to put it on the same level as the PS2 or SNES.

That doesn't play compadre, we're talking about great games - not popular games.

Uh, many of the games we're talking about aren't that popular.

Hence the reason why I said we're talking about great games.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2010, 11:07:20 PM
What are great ds games then?
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2010, 11:12:13 PM
You're using the pokemon games to support your argument? Really?

I'm dying to know what's wrong with Pokemon.

Every iteration is like a port or a remake of its predecessor.

Heck, two of the games ARE remakes and just came out a month ago!
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:12:47 PM
What are great ds games then?

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=top_rated&platform=1026&mode=top&sort=score&page_type=games&dlx_type=all&date_filter=all&sortdir=asc&official=all (http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=top_rated&platform=1026&mode=top&sort=score&page_type=games&dlx_type=all&date_filter=all&sortdir=asc&official=all)

http://www.metacritic.com/games/ds/scores/ (http://www.metacritic.com/games/ds/scores/)

http://ds.ign.com/index/top-reviewed.html (http://ds.ign.com/index/top-reviewed.html)

Start with these 3 ^, if you need more sources let me know.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2010, 11:13:14 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:14:14 PM
You're using the pokemon games to support your argument? Really?

I'm dying to know what's wrong with Pokemon.

Every iteration is like a port or a remake of its predecessor.

Opinions, everyone has them.


Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:14:44 PM
:-\

Something wrong
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 11, 2010, 11:17:31 PM
:-\
See what I mean? :lol

I've played a lot of games on that metacritic list, but I don't see anything that I would actually call great. Most DS games are forgettable and leave no impression. Or maybe it's just me. Maybe I have a problem with handheld games.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:22:50 PM
Oh, so now it's ok to play the opinion card? I've been dying to use it to defend the iPhone game library.

"Every iteration is like a port or a remake of its predecessor."

"Opinions, everyone has them."

The problem is you're not bringing facts to the table when talking about the Pokemon games on the DS.

Hence the line, "opinions, everyone has them".
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2010, 11:23:51 PM
:-\
See what I mean? :lol

I've played a lot of games on that metacritic list, but I don't see anything that I would actually call great. Most DS games are forgettable and leave no impression. Or maybe it's just me. Maybe I have a problem with handheld games.

No, I agree. The problem with ds is the distinct lack of action-based games. It's a big story-based system, and honestly, games like rpgs are best on tvs so you can soak them in, in my opinion. This is why I prefer psp: more emphasis on pick up and play games. Now that's not to say ds doesn't have great pick up and play games.

Yoshi's Island ds and Canvas Curse are the shit.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:25:06 PM
I'm still dying to know what's wrong with Pokemon.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 11, 2010, 11:28:43 PM
if you are older than twelve, just about everything
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 11, 2010, 11:31:12 PM
:-\
See what I mean? :lol

I've played a lot of games on that metacritic list, but I don't see anything that I would actually call great. Most DS games are forgettable and leave no impression. Or maybe it's just me. Maybe I have a problem with handheld games.

No, I agree. The problem with ds is the distinct lack of action-based games. It's a big story-based system, and honestly, games like rpgs are best on tvs so you can soak them in, in my opinion. This is why I prefer psp: more emphasis on pick up and play games. Now that's not to say ds doesn't have great pick up and play games.

Yoshi's Island ds and Canvas Curse are the shit.
I still need to try YI DS.

Smh at Capcom dropping the ball on the Megaman ZX games.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:34:48 PM
if you are older than twelve, just about everything

Oh, it's too 'kiddy' for you manly men.
 
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:36:55 PM
Facts to the table? I tried the games, they all look identical to me. Only the fanatics will prove otherwise.

You should get your eyes checked, could be something serious.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 11, 2010, 11:37:00 PM
*flexes troll muscle*

still got it
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:44:12 PM
*flexes troll muscle*

still got it

(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Cleveland-Show-tv-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 11, 2010, 11:46:13 PM
Facts to the table? I tried the games, they all look identical to me. Only the fanatics will prove otherwise.

You should get your eyes checked, could be something serious.


::)

Anyways, g2g sap some sentries.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 11, 2010, 11:47:42 PM
You keep fighting the good fight, TripleA.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 11, 2010, 11:48:44 PM
he should probably start the good fight first
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 11, 2010, 11:57:15 PM
TripleA sucks
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 11, 2010, 11:57:36 PM
Defending the DS against such baseless accusations IS the good fight, Eel. It just boggles my mind that anyone can look at the DS's amazing library of world-class, original titles and think that it's anything other than the best lineup since the SNES. Just don't get it at all. But as if that weren't bad enough, we've got people coming in here and trying to compare it to the iPhone? EL-OH-EL. The iPhone's games can't hold a candle to the DS, the later is so many lightyears ahead that the difference is incalculable. But, no, all those people have an agenda to besmirch Nintendo and try to sway other people's opinion's against the DS. It's a bit disgusting actually, but they actually know better. They know that the DS has a great libary, but they just can't stand to see a Nintendo system succeed. Everyone knows the PSP can't match up, so they go to the iPhone because it's less well known. They can trot out a few weird 2D shooters or some hackneyed FF-lite and throw out pictures of neat graphics and everyone "Oh's" and "Ah's" over them as if they're something amazing. Here's a hint: they're not. DS is where it's at and the sooner people start admitting this, the better. Or, you can keep up this silly argument and continue to show yourselves as fools, to no one's tears.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 12, 2010, 12:03:17 AM
It just boggles my mind that anyone can look at the DS's amazing library of world-class, original titles and think that it's anything other than the best lineup since the SNES.
This is the shit I'm talking about. What the fuck?
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2010, 12:04:45 AM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 12, 2010, 12:13:27 AM
It seriously is. And I really like the thing, but it's delusional fans piss me the fuck off.  Especially at that other board.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2010, 12:22:00 AM
Great rumbler, notsureifserious. If you are then > overreactionton. Afaik, none of the people who listed the iPhone games actually think that its current library is better, but assuming that Nintendo was referring to the casual market in statement Manabyte posted, then yes, they have a right to at least get worried; the iPhone has already proven itself as a viable platform to host a wide range of casual titles.  

I'm dead serious, Jin. The DS is my absolute passion, I love everything about it. I could rattle off at least fifty titles from memory that are worth buying and will become classics one day. I'm not going to do that right now, because a list war is pretty pointless but I just want all you guys to know how deep my knowledge of the DS's library really is. I'm not just spouting off without knowing, I know what I'm talking about. It just really irks me that some people set themselves up as "experts" and their view from the top of the hill is that the DS is some videogame stepchild to their beloved iPhone.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2010, 12:32:19 AM
It seriously is. And I really like the thing, but it's delusional fans piss me the fuck off.  Especially at that other board.

I mean, even if you compare the cream of the crop of the snes to the best of the ds, the ds gets stomped. snes was an awfully varied system and complimented the genesis perfectly. Both systems had their genre expertise and they did this flawlessly. I can't say the same for the ds. ds has a lot of good games, some great games even! - but few classic games. I can think of lots of classic games for the snes: Super Castlevania 4, Pocky and Rocky, Super R-Type, Chrono Trigger, Mega Man X/X2, ActRaiser...I can't think of anything on ds that matches these games and the ds counterparts to these games - the Metroidvania's, Mega Man ZX games for example - pale to the snes entries.

The whole thing is just bollocks. No, the ds is not better than the snes and it's not better than the psx or ps2 either. STOP SAYING THIS, NTARDS. Is it because how damn popular the system is that makes them make this claim? ???
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2010, 12:45:27 AM
Maybe I'm being a bit forceful here, but it just irks me that TripleA and I are the only ones unwilling to let things slide. You're free to "disagree" with my opinion, but you should at least be able to admit the truth about how great the DS's library is.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2010, 12:48:19 AM
I like the ds a whole lot. I've said as much in the past that I like the ds + psp combined more than the entire ps3/360/wii generation. But these comparisons to snes, psx and ps2 make zero sense. :lol It has a good lineup, though and it's certainly a good system.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 12, 2010, 12:49:23 AM
It's good, not great. It's not amazing. It's not world-class, whatever the fuck that means. Just good.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2010, 12:49:43 AM
But these comparisons to snes, psx and ps2 make zero sense.

Yeah, well, that's just the view from the top of the hill as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Rob on May 12, 2010, 12:50:27 AM
Defending the DS against such baseless accusations IS the good fight, Eel. It just boggles my mind that anyone can look at the DS's amazing library of world-class, original titles and think that it's anything other than the best lineup since the SNES. Just don't get it at all. But as if that weren't bad enough, we've got people coming in here and trying to compare it to the iPhone? EL-OH-EL. The iPhone's games can't hold a candle to the DS, the later is so many lightyears ahead that the difference is incalculable. But, no, all those people have an agenda to besmirch Nintendo and try to sway other people's opinion's against the DS. It's a bit disgusting actually, but they actually know better. They know that the DS has a great libary, but they just can't stand to see a Nintendo system succeed. Everyone knows the PSP can't match up, so they go to the iPhone because it's less well known. They can trot out a few weird 2D shooters or some hackneyed FF-lite and throw out pictures of neat graphics and everyone "Oh's" and "Ah's" over them as if they're something amazing. Here's a hint: they're not. DS is where it's at and the sooner people start admitting this, the better. Or, you can keep up this silly argument and continue to show yourselves as fools, to no one's tears.

This is the best post i've ever read on this board.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 12, 2010, 12:51:40 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Purple Filth on May 12, 2010, 12:59:54 AM
DS?  :yuck

Iphone?  :yuck

PSP?  :yuck
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2010, 01:02:02 AM
But these comparisons to snes, psx and ps2 make zero sense.

Yeah, well, that's just the view from the top of the hill as far as I'm concerned.

GAF has just really really put me off of extremes.

"ds is the on par with the snes/ps2!"

"wii is the best nintendo system since the snes!"

"360 is the best system ever!"

"Are we all in agreement that God of War 3 has put ps3 on ps2-level status?"

Is it so hard for a system to just be a REALLY GOOD SYSTEM that you enjoy? I just don't understand the thought process of saying that the ds has the best game lineup since the snes. Where do you get such limited gaming history? What about the dreamcast? or the ps2? or the psx? or the saturn? ds doesn't have the variety to back up such a claim, so it always comes off as extremist garbage.

And yet every time you see someone critique the ds' lineup, the ds fanbots line up suggesting you're crazy for not thinking it's the best lineup ever. Am I missing something? ???
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2010, 01:05:14 AM
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Or, you can keep up this silly argument and continue to show yourselves as fools, to no one's tears.

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It just really irks me that some people set themselves up as "experts" and their view from the top of the hill is that the DS is some videogame stepchild to their beloved iPhone.

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Maybe I'm being a bit forceful here, but it just irks me that TripleA and I are the only ones unwilling to let things slide. You're free to "disagree" with my opinion, but you should at least be able to admit the truth about how great the DS's library is.

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Yeah, well, that's just the view from the top of the hill as far as I'm concerned.

Come on, guys, I'm making this one easy!
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 12, 2010, 01:09:51 AM
 :maf

Sorry, the fanboys at GAF really do post shit like you just did.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2010, 01:15:21 AM
:lol Holy shit.

And beezy's right, people really do say that shit on gaf :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 12, 2010, 01:15:35 AM
i knew :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: ManaByte on May 12, 2010, 02:10:35 AM
:rofl

Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Ichirou on May 12, 2010, 02:24:38 AM
I'm pretty much convinced that NintendosBooger was TripleA's joke character.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Raban on May 12, 2010, 04:07:23 AM
Great Rumbler :rock
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: magus on May 12, 2010, 06:09:26 AM
i bet great rumbler doesn't like ff12 :teehee

uh... anyway i loved the first years of the ds,there were lot of original and weird touch screen games (like pac-pix? anybody else love pac-pix? you should love pac-pix!) then the thing just went south... these days sometimes a decent game pops out (like strange journey a while ago) and then it's just a slumber until the next decent game

plus it's success it's based on a fucking tamagotchi

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N33HXy05Tew&feature=related[/youtube]

smh  >:(


so anyway according to tripleA since chrono trigger is so high in that metacritic list that means i win the thread right? :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: archie4208 on May 12, 2010, 07:06:04 AM
What are great ds games then?

Strange Journey and Devil Survivor.

Atlus single handedly saved the DS. :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: naff on May 12, 2010, 07:21:19 AM
I'm still dying to know what's wrong with Pokemon.

There's nothing wrong with it. In fact it's deceptively simple gameplay was so solid/addictive it hasn't needed changing all that much to remain popular. I can't handle them anymore though personally, tbh after the first one the franchise went downhill for me. I enjoyed gold and even a GBA one but they're all too similar to give you a real feeling of differentiation between games.

DS > SNES !?! :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on May 12, 2010, 07:53:09 AM
I really don't give a shit about portables even though I've bought just about every one of them out there.  Sure during the first month or so I become obsessed with the things but my interest dies off pretty damn quick.  I couldn't even tell you the last time I bothered to pick up my PSP and FFIV was probably the only game on the DS that I liked enough to put substantial time in.  My iPhone is really no different.  At first I was downloading games and apps like a fucking madman but the thrill is long gone and now I'll only grab something if I'm completely bored, but that's the thing with the iphone/itouch - it's incredibly easy to get your fix and that's got to be bothersome to Nintendo.  I could defintely foresee the iphone/touch grabbing a large part of the portable scene from Nintendo but if Apple is really serious about it becoming a gaming device they're going to have to consider offering a model with some other kind of input besides the touchscreen - like a flip out d-pad and buttons.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Ichirou on May 12, 2010, 09:09:18 AM
I missed all those references, to no one's tears...but my own.   :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2010, 09:21:24 AM
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Defending the DS against such baseless accusations IS the good fight, Eel. It just boggles my mind that anyone can look at the DS's amazing library of world-class, original titles and think that it's anything other than the best lineup since the SNES. Just don't get it at all. But as if that weren't bad enough, we've got people coming in here and trying to compare it to the iPhone? EL-OH-EL. The iPhone's games can't hold a candle to the DS, the later is so many lightyears ahead that the difference is incalculable. But, no, all those people have an agenda to besmirch Nintendo and try to sway other people's opinion's against the DS. It's a bit disgusting actually, but they actually know better. They know that the DS has a great libary, but they just can't stand to see a Nintendo system succeed. Everyone knows the PSP can't match up, so they go to the iPhone because it's less well known. They can trot out a few weird 2D shooters or some hackneyed FF-lite and throw out pictures of neat graphics and everyone "Oh's" and "Ah's" over them as if they're something amazing. Here's a hint: they're not. DS is where it's at and the sooner people start admitting this, the better. Or, you can keep up this silly argument and continue to show yourselves as fools, to no one's tears.

a bit disgusting actually? shut your stupid cunt mouth, for fuck sake - you look like a fucking tard shagger.

What a jizz muppet。

:lol
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Ichirou on May 12, 2010, 09:43:12 AM
Goddamn, dcharlie owned, Great Rumble enthroned. :rofl

That post was pure fucking genius, man. :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 12, 2010, 09:45:09 AM
I knew Himu was getting Himu'd but I did not want to break his trance.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 12, 2010, 10:56:05 AM
TripleA sucks

Thank you for those kind words.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 12, 2010, 10:57:34 AM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.

Oh really.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 12, 2010, 10:59:33 AM
I'm pretty much convinced that NintendosBooger was TripleA's joke character.

(http://www.nouvelordremondial.cc/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/its-a-conspiracy.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 12, 2010, 11:01:16 AM
I'm still dying to know what's wrong with Pokemon.

There's nothing wrong with it. In fact it's deceptively simple gameplay was so solid/addictive it hasn't needed changing all that much to remain popular. I can't handle them anymore though personally, tbh after the first one the franchise went downhill for me. I enjoyed gold and even a GBA one but they're all too similar to give you a real feeling of differentiation between games.

DS > SNES !?! :rofl :rofl :rofl

I see I see.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 12, 2010, 11:19:27 AM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.
Oh really.
yea man
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 12, 2010, 11:31:40 AM
Triple
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 12, 2010, 11:31:51 AM
A
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 12, 2010, 11:32:00 AM
sucks.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2010, 11:37:10 AM
Triple
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2010, 11:37:20 AM
A
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2010, 11:37:26 AM
socks.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: tiesto on May 12, 2010, 11:37:46 AM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.

Oh really.

I'd say the N64 takes that honor... or the original Xbox.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Third on May 12, 2010, 11:38:51 AM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.

Not really. Dreamcast is the most overrated system of all time. DS comes second.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Beezy on May 12, 2010, 11:42:34 AM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.

Oh really.

I'd say the N64 takes that honor... or the original Xbox.
Xbox was overrated? Maybe Halo was, but I don't remember the Xbox itself being overrated.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2010, 11:44:08 AM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.

Oh really.

I'd say the N64 takes that honor... or the original Xbox.

The N64 was overrated? Maybe among the hardest of the hardcore Nintendo faithful, but I don't think it went beyond that.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 12, 2010, 11:56:51 AM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.
Half of the games that matter then. I'll never understand why some people try to put it on the same level as the PS2 or SNES.

That doesn't play compadre, we're talking about great games - not popular games.
I didn't say anything about popularity. If I did then shit like Scribblenauts would be included and that's hardly a game.

Real talk: DS has a lot of good games, but few great games.

Scribblenauts is a great Nintendo DS game, I have no doubt that Scribblenauts 2 will address some of the complaints lodged at Scribblenauts 1.

Depends on what you consider good and what you consider great.


The "complaints."  You mean like how the physics were completely broken, the controls were an incredible burden on the player, and that the gimmick wore off in 5 minutes?   

Scribblenauts is a poor man's Crayon Physics. 
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on May 12, 2010, 12:02:58 PM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.

Not really. Dreamcast is the most overrated system of all time.

I'd agree with that, and I bought it day 1 along with about 8 or 9 games.  To this day I never really understand people's fascination with the DC.  In the end, I probably only really liked about 4 games on the thing - Skies of Arcadia, Soul Calibur, Virtua Tennis, and Soul Reaver.  Everything else was pretty much forgetable.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Raban on May 12, 2010, 12:15:23 PM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.

Not really. Dreamcast is the most overrated system of all time.

I'd agree with that, and I bought it day 1 along with about 8 or 9 games.  To this day I never really understand people's fascination with the DC.  In the end, I probably only really liked about 4 games on the thing - Skies of Arcadia, Soul Calibur, Virtua Tennis, and Soul Reaver.  Everything else was pretty much forgetable.

Maybe to you, I don't think the DC is overrated at all. I think nostalgia tricks a lot of people into thinking it was greater than it actually is, but the hype it gets is completely deserved. The DC was an arcade-at-home BEAST.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 12, 2010, 12:46:47 PM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.
Oh really.
yea man

I see.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 12, 2010, 12:47:35 PM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.

Oh really.

I'd say the N64 takes that honor... or the original Xbox.

Pretty sure that title is reserved for the Dreamcast  :D
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 12, 2010, 12:50:21 PM
Half is a tad large a number, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of the better games on the system are ports/remakes.
Half of the games that matter then. I'll never understand why some people try to put it on the same level as the PS2 or SNES.

That doesn't play compadre, we're talking about great games - not popular games.
I didn't say anything about popularity. If I did then shit like Scribblenauts would be included and that's hardly a game.

Real talk: DS has a lot of good games, but few great games.

Scribblenauts is a great Nintendo DS game, I have no doubt that Scribblenauts 2 will address some of the complaints lodged at Scribblenauts 1.

Depends on what you consider good and what you consider great.


The "complaints."  You mean like how the physics were completely broken, the controls were an incredible burden on the player, and that the gimmick wore off in 5 minutes?   

Scribblenauts is a poor man's Crayon Physics. 

The controls were indeed an issue for select individuals.

As for Crayon Physics, it was mediocre at best.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: magus on May 12, 2010, 01:13:33 PM
Triple
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: magus on May 12, 2010, 01:13:40 PM
A
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Post by: magus on May 12, 2010, 01:14:03 PM
Sicks
spoiler (click to show/hide)
bad case of nintenfaggitis  :(
[close]
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2010, 01:17:16 PM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.

Oh really.

I'd say the N64 takes that honor... or the original Xbox.

Original Xbox? How? Lots of people say it didn't have enough jappy games when it had quite a lot of jappy games, lots of people didn't take the xbox seriously because of lol halo and lol fpses when it was a great system.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2010, 01:21:00 PM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.

Not really. Dreamcast is the most overrated system of all time. DS comes second.

Incorrect. You give me a system that had a lineup as awesome of dc's and then remember that DC had the lifespan of only two - three years and tell me that system is overrated. You could name at least 25-30 worthwhile games for the dc at its popularity height and it was only around for like 2 years. How is a system like that overrated? To top it off: the innovative online infrastructure, arcade games at home, and more? No, dc is right on the mark.

I knew Himu was getting Himu'd but I did not want to break his trance.

:lol Dude, I have seen that argument SO MANY TIMES ON GAF that I thought he was being serious. :lol

I can't believe I was out-himu'd
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: magus on May 12, 2010, 01:42:52 PM
i don't get the reference's  ???
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TripleA on May 12, 2010, 01:44:58 PM
Poor guy.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2010, 01:48:44 PM
i don't get the reference's  ???

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=34062.msg1109042#msg1109042 (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=34062.msg1109042#msg1109042)
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Raban on May 12, 2010, 01:53:58 PM
I didn't even know Shake left. That sucks, I liked him.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 12, 2010, 02:11:38 PM
Don't lie, no one did.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Raban on May 12, 2010, 02:14:04 PM
Don't lie, no one did.

Seriously, I like Shake. Seems like a cool guy. More sociable version of Ichirou.
Title: Re: Nintendo: Victory over Sony complete. Apple is "enemy of the furture"
Post by: Purple Filth on May 12, 2010, 10:53:37 PM
:lol ds is the most overrated system of all time.

Not really. Dreamcast is the most overrated system of all time.

I'd agree with that, and I bought it day 1 along with about 8 or 9 games.  To this day I never really understand people's fascination with the DC.  In the end, I probably only really liked about 4 games on the thing - Skies of Arcadia, Soul Calibur, Virtua Tennis, and Soul Reaver.  Everything else was pretty much forgetable.

Never saw it either but it was the home arcade/fighting game machine. Most of the Arcade games ran perfectly on it.