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Title: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 02:57:47 PM
(http://www.aintitcool.com/images2009/capam1.jpg)
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 02, 2010, 02:58:58 PM
gay
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Post by: Mupepe on June 02, 2010, 03:03:03 PM
i'd hit it
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 03:04:32 PM
(http://www.aintitcool.com/images2009/capam3.jpg)

I think it looks okay, probably a decent getup for film - but why does he have all that spiderweb shit on his legs? Why can't it just be solid blue?
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Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on June 02, 2010, 03:05:06 PM
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad gay
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Post by: Bebpo on June 02, 2010, 03:06:02 PM
Body looks fine, head looks terrible.  Looks like a soldier, not a superhero
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Post by: cool breeze on June 02, 2010, 03:07:48 PM
[img]http://www.aintitcool.com/images2009/capam3.jpg[/img

I think it looks okay, probably a decent getup for film - but why does he have all that spiderweb shit on his legs? Why can't it just be solid blue?

padding, probably

Body looks fine, head looks terrible.  Looks like a soldier, not a superhero

I was gonna say the same thing.  head looks out of place on that body.  would have been better if it was more helmet like or have more to it so it wouldn't look like a bald cap painted blue.
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Post by: Bocsius on June 02, 2010, 03:10:09 PM
Needs zippers.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 03:13:09 PM
Body looks fine, head looks terrible.  Looks like a soldier, not a superhero

Captain America is a soldier! I just wish they painted on the wings to the side of the helmet, like in the comic book. The helmet look is obviously modeled after his World War II attire.
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Post by: ManaByte on June 02, 2010, 03:16:26 PM
Fan art.
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Post by: cool breeze on June 02, 2010, 03:20:58 PM
The only part of his outfit that looks really off are the eye holes.  I don't follow Captain America, but is there a reason for him to hide his identity? I know he's from WW2 and ends up in the future at one point, but if that's the case, why would he hide that? it's not like any geriatric enemies he had would come after him.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 03:22:26 PM
Fan art.

Quote from: JoBlo
Ain't It Cool posted some art today that aren't just fan mockups - these are the real deal.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Diunx on June 02, 2010, 03:25:41 PM
Looks cool, gonna have to wait to see what kind of fabrics and colors they use to pass final judgment.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 03:30:57 PM
The biggest problem with Captain America is that he is a shitty superhero.

Read Ed Brubaker's run. He rocks.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 02, 2010, 03:31:35 PM
Needs wings, comic nerds nowadays hates the wings because they aren't "realistic" and they're secretly ashamed of their panty fetish hobby, but I think they're cool - and better than that great big A target on his forehead.

Also looks too modern.  All that textured padded shit and the molded rubber look seems anachronistic for the time period.

I knew they'd fuck this up somehow.  The costume was perfect as it is in the comics, a nice blend of soldier/symbol/superhero, this looks like he walked out of a comic convention costume contest.  Which he lost.

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/KParrott/ugh.jpg)
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 02, 2010, 03:38:14 PM
that costume sucks, wings or no

Captain America was an awesome character in the 1940s Golden Age comics, when all the villains were weird slobbering ghouls or  racist wartime caricatures.  Go google up some of the old covers, they're hilarious.
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Post by: Robo on June 02, 2010, 04:03:14 PM
My first thought was that he needed wings.  I like the get-up, but I'm kinda picking up Metal Gear Solid vibes for some reason.
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Post by: Fresh Prince on June 02, 2010, 04:48:23 PM
Would be better without the shoulder pads and suspenders.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on June 02, 2010, 05:12:28 PM
Looks more like a jobber superhero than an icon, kinda like the ones that always get killed first in a major crossover. 
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 02, 2010, 05:17:56 PM
USAgent  :-\
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Post by: Raban on June 02, 2010, 05:27:56 PM
Ugh.
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Post by: BlueTsunami on June 02, 2010, 05:38:18 PM
Isn't the movie an origins story? I wonder if this is supposed to be some Mark 1 version of his suit. It definitely should be smoothed out, fuck this whole "Realistic and practical" design shit, he's a fucking Super Hero!
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 05:44:09 PM
Isn't the movie an origins story? I wonder if this is supposed to be some Mark 1 version of his suit. It definitely should be smoothed out, fuck this whole "Realistic and practical" design shit, he's a fucking Super Hero!

If it's too flamboyant, non-comic book fans won't see it. Because then he'll be "gay". And the masses won't pay to see a "gay" superhero.
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Post by: Raban on June 02, 2010, 05:46:42 PM
Isn't the movie an origins story? I wonder if this is supposed to be some Mark 1 version of his suit. It definitely should be smoothed out, fuck this whole "Realistic and practical" design shit, he's a fucking Super Hero!

If it's too flamboyant, non-comic book fans won't see it. Because then he'll be "gay". And the masses won't pay to see a "gay" superhero.

The original Cap costume is probably one of the straightest costumes out there. This shit looks about 1000 times gayer.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Eric P on June 02, 2010, 05:46:49 PM
Isn't the movie an origins story? I wonder if this is supposed to be some Mark 1 version of his suit. It definitely should be smoothed out, fuck this whole "Realistic and practical" design shit, he's a fucking Super Hero!

If it's too flamboyant, non-comic book fans won't see it. Because then he'll be "gay". And the masses won't pay to see a "gay" superhero.

and yet, wrestling
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: ManaByte on June 02, 2010, 05:47:28 PM
Isn't the movie an origins story? I wonder if this is supposed to be some Mark 1 version of his suit. It definitely should be smoothed out, fuck this whole "Realistic and practical" design shit, he's a fucking Super Hero!

This is the "combat" suit. The normal one he uses. There's another suit he wears at the USO appearances, but that one hasn't been released yet.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 05:53:08 PM
I really would recommend Brubaker's run. The only thing, his Captain America isn't Steve Rogers. Which is probably why I like his Captain America.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: ManaByte on June 02, 2010, 05:56:27 PM
I really would recommend Brubaker's run. The only thing, his Captain America isn't Steve Rogers. Which is probably why I like his Captain America.

His Captain America WAS Steve Rogers until Quesada told him to kill Captain America as a symbol of how Bush killed America.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 06:00:09 PM
His Captain America was Steve Rogers for a handful of issues, the vast majority of Bru's run has NOT been Steve Rogers. It's also been the BEST part of his run.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: brawndolicious on June 02, 2010, 06:18:34 PM
Isn't the movie an origins story? I wonder if this is supposed to be some Mark 1 version of his suit. It definitely should be smoothed out, fuck this whole "Realistic and practical" design shit, he's a fucking Super Hero!
No, wouldn't he need a triangle shield then?
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: ManaByte on June 02, 2010, 06:20:48 PM
It is an origin story but no triangle shield AFAIK.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 02, 2010, 06:24:42 PM
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/KParrott/ugh.jpg)

Captain YMCA: The First Villager
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 02, 2010, 06:24:53 PM
Looks like a soldier, not a superhero

isnt that what he is?
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 02, 2010, 06:30:05 PM
It must really suck adapting comic book costumes to feel. Designers sort of got away with the X-Men by slapping them in black plastic and calling it a day, but the more elaborate costumes require some resemblance to the actual comic costumes. They got Spider-Man right by darkening the red and blue, but Captain America simply looks so ridiculous I don't see how they can salvage it. Same with Thor.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 02, 2010, 06:32:16 PM
i like the design. more soldier, less superhero.

this would look pretty hot on screen:
(http://www.ifanboy.com/files/images/marvel/Ultimate%20Captain%20America.jpg)
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: brob on June 02, 2010, 06:33:17 PM
I think subduing the colors would help. Like, to all hell and back. And if they are going for a ww2 gen 1 Cap America (Isnt' that the origin story?) his clothing should be based on the cut of a uniform (none of those fancy ass lines everywhere).
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 06:37:52 PM
It takes place during World War II and present day. All indications is he'll have different attire for both.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: brob on June 02, 2010, 06:42:56 PM
sounds like something they could fuck up quite easily.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 02, 2010, 06:43:45 PM
So that pretty much confirms he'll be frozen correct
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 02, 2010, 06:45:42 PM
Isn't the movie an origins story? I wonder if this is supposed to be some Mark 1 version of his suit. It definitely should be smoothed out, fuck this whole "Realistic and practical" design shit, he's a fucking Super Hero!

This is the "combat" suit. The normal one he uses. There's another suit he wears at the USO appearances, but that one hasn't been released yet.

Really? I thought this was Fan art.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: ManaByte on June 02, 2010, 06:50:13 PM
Isn't the movie an origins story? I wonder if this is supposed to be some Mark 1 version of his suit. It definitely should be smoothed out, fuck this whole "Realistic and practical" design shit, he's a fucking Super Hero!

This is the "combat" suit. The normal one he uses. There's another suit he wears at the USO appearances, but that one hasn't been released yet.

Really? I thought this was Fan art.

It was originally posted as such until someone came out and confirmed it was real leaked art.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/45326
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 07:17:37 PM
So that pretty much confirms he'll be frozen correct

I would suppose so. It'll be interesting to see how it's handled. I think it'll be a fun flick, and Johnston is the perfect guy for it. He likes his throwback films and '40s/'50s B-Movies (hence why the Rocketeer was so good).

I'm more concerned that The Avengers and Thor will suck than Captain America.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 02, 2010, 07:21:18 PM
Thor sucks ass.  I'm still stunned that a film will feature him as the main character. 
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 07:23:07 PM
Thor's helmet has wings! Marvel redeemed ???

I always thought Thor was a cool character when Millar did The Ultimates, but only because you were unsure if this guy really was Thor or some crazy dude with a hammer that he stole from a scientist or something. One could argue either position during the first arc.
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Post by: brob on June 02, 2010, 07:27:26 PM
As a Norwegian I am offended Thor exists as a Marvel character. I issue HOLMGANG against Marvel for this.
VE SKAL EG VRI DIS HJÆRTER I MIN BUESNOR  :punch
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 02, 2010, 07:28:26 PM
The early parts of The Ultimates were just really good in general.  They even made the Wasp and Giant-Man interesting.  
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 02, 2010, 07:34:45 PM
Yeah, but there's no way that Marvel would ever adapt it for film. Which is silly, because Millar's first run on The Ultimates is basically a storyboard for a great Avengers flick. Too dark for audiences, though. Would have made an awesome movie.
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Post by: Eric P on June 02, 2010, 07:59:52 PM
I issue HOLMGANG against Marvel for this.


oh fuck

a jihåd!
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: brob on June 02, 2010, 08:03:44 PM
I'm a descendant of Eiríkr rauði son. Shit, I share his name too. I'm the last berserker Marvel wants on their asses. Jærbu reppin'! :rock
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: chronovore on June 02, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Not feeling it. Happy that it's not black leather jumpsuits like the X-Men, but this looks like it was designed by committee.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 02, 2010, 10:52:42 PM
i like the design. more soldier, less superhero.

yeah, it's a good thing they made the superhero not look like one, because the last thing you want in a comic book movie is for it to look like it came out of a comic book
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 02, 2010, 10:58:24 PM
shit, this fan mockup looks better, and fan art usually makes my skin crawl

(http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/fan-captainamerica-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 02, 2010, 11:03:00 PM
The Movie version definitely needs some pizzaz in the form of blue scales. But I'm warming up to the mockup, it just needs little wings on the side (not protruding out but painted on).
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 02, 2010, 11:12:45 PM
i have never understood the reasoning behind these kinds of drastic changes

"Hey, you know that really cool superhero, the one that's been around for nearly 70 years in the same familiar iconic costume which is ingrained in pop culture and has appeared in countless media outside of comics, the one even grandparents recognize?  That character would make an awesome movie.  Let's change everything about it."

i can understand tweaking it a bit to give it depth on film, as in spider-man, but stuff like this just smacks of filmmakers and costume designers thinking they can do better than the design which helped make the character so popular in the first place

 :yuck

did you know that when they were working out the flash tv show, cbs executives were pushing for the flash to wear a jogging suit?
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 02, 2010, 11:27:27 PM
The headpiece really screams 'Gimp suit' in the fan art but otherwise I quite like it.

Love the idea of the Flash in a jogging suit. As if he gets to those speeds 'cause of his awesome shoes or running technique. I wish they'd occasionally show him WALKING at light speed in the comics - in theory, he could do it ;)

Actually his running poses are always ridiculous - he's always on the verge of falling over and wiping out at Mach 10.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 02, 2010, 11:34:12 PM
so you guys want your superheroes to look boring, basically
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 02, 2010, 11:40:27 PM
None of them actually care, if asked...except that they will participate in approx one gazillion argumentative threads like this for years after the movie is released. You don't see these arguments about Nick Frost being suited to play John Self in Martin Amis' 'Money', but put a superhero movie in your threat title and whammo!
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: brawndolicious on June 03, 2010, 12:02:43 AM
I don't mind if they want to change it up a little bit but the suspenders bother me.

They could just drop that and I'd see no major problems with it.
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Post by: Eric P on June 03, 2010, 01:47:48 AM
Guardian whined about Frost. 
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Post by: Cormacaroni on June 03, 2010, 02:05:28 AM
Guardian whined about Frost. 

Yes, but most of the people ITT probably think those are two members of Justice League Europe.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 03, 2010, 02:24:38 AM
not anymore but yeah.
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Post by: Fresh Prince on June 03, 2010, 02:45:45 AM
Why does he need so many pouches?
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Post by: Cormacaroni on June 03, 2010, 03:17:56 AM
Snacks.
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Post by: ManaByte on June 03, 2010, 05:19:11 PM
(http://scifiwire.com/assets_c/2010/06/ThorConceptArt1-thumb-550x1207-40137.jpg)
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 03, 2010, 05:34:34 PM
(http://scifiwire.com/assets_c/2010/06/ThorConceptArt1-thumb-550x1207-40137.jpg)

SyFy Original Movie :lol
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 03, 2010, 07:35:40 PM
i think you're looking at marvel's next two flops here
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: brob on June 03, 2010, 07:42:52 PM
Can someone explain why Thor's suit has those circular metal plates on it? I know his comic costume has those too, and I'm bemused.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: ManaByte on June 03, 2010, 07:44:42 PM
Because in recent Marvel lore, Asgard is actually a high-tech alien race as opposed to the mythical Norse gods.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: M3wThr33 on June 03, 2010, 07:44:56 PM
Can someone explain why Thor's suit has those circular metal plates on it? I know his comic costume has those too, and I'm bemused.
6 nipples
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 03, 2010, 08:07:40 PM
Because in recent Marvel lore, Asgard is actually a high-tech alien race as opposed to the mythical Norse gods.
I was going to say that costume looks more like something out of science fiction rather than myth & lore. But now I guess it makes sense.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: brob on June 03, 2010, 08:11:38 PM
When I was a kid I liked that Valhalla comic. Haven't read it since I was ten, but it seemed rather good at the time.

Because in recent Marvel lore, Asgard is actually a high-tech alien race as opposed to the mythical Norse gods.

Is Asgard not a place in Marvel lore?

...


 :maf
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Post by: Dickie Dee on June 03, 2010, 08:25:41 PM
Take it fwiw:

Quote from: http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/by-the-gods-what-photoshoppery-bedevils-chris-hemsworth-as-thor?m=k
By the gods, what Photoshoppery bedevils Chris Hemsworth as Thor?

Oh, my.

So we start the day with some images of Captain America, clearly production art designed to show how the costume might look on the actor. Reaction to those images have been mixed all day, and I understand... it's a pretty striking thing to suddenly see Captain America rendered "realistically."

Well, that reaction should be nothing compared to the conversations that some leaked images of Chris Hemsworth in his full Thor costume should inspire.

Over at Collider, they were sent two pictures that definitely show you the final design for the way Thor looks in next summer's "Thor." However, I've been to the set for that film, and I've seen Hemsworth in final costume tests, and I've seen the overall aesthetic for Asgard. While what you're seeing in the Collider images is indeed the design for the costume, there are several details about it that are ill-served by those images.

For one thing, it does not appear to be made of vinyl or plastic when you see the costume in context and in motion. I'm surprised by how disco-shiny those photos make him look, because that's not at all what it looks like in the film. There's a real cloth and metal feel to all of the costuming, especially the Asgardian stuff.

That early official shot of Hemsworth did a nice job of setting a mood, and that's something these leaked images lack completely. Also, whoever did the Photoshopping on these has some real issues with scale. Forget that cape that looks snapped on... what about the way his head and hands look freakishly large?

Look, these images weren't meant for public consumption. If you're looking at these and thinking, "Oh, man, they got him totally wrong," relax. The world of "Thor" is big and rich and surprising, and I think once people actually see moving footage, they're going to let go of any minor issues they have with button sizes or color palettes.

One final note on these images... they make Mjolnir, Thor's enchanted hammer, look fairly dinky. I've held that hammer. That thing is heavy as hell, and the real trick of what Hemsworth's got to do in the role is make it look not just menacing, but imposing as well.

"Thor" will be in theaters May 6, 2011. We'll have plenty more on the film, including details of that set visit and what we saw there, in the next year right here on HitFix.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 03, 2010, 08:37:43 PM
Can someone explain why Thor's suit has those circular metal plates on it? I know his comic costume has those too, and I'm bemused.

Jack Kirby! The man took a few liberties in the name of being AWESOME.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: ManaByte on June 03, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
When I was a kid I liked that Valhalla comic. Haven't read it since I was ten, but it seemed rather good at the time.

Because in recent Marvel lore, Asgard is actually a high-tech alien race as opposed to the mythical Norse gods.

Is Asgard not a place in Marvel lore?

...


 :maf

Right now it's a city floating over Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 03, 2010, 08:40:06 PM
Right now it's the remains of a city all over Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 03, 2010, 10:58:51 PM
I still don't understand why they just didn't go for The Ultimates look:

(http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/ultimates2-5.jpg)

Would have been easier to pull off, and look a lot better on film. Why?
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 04, 2010, 01:02:08 AM
you're going to confuse the hell out of 'em Willco!

(why does Thor have a shield?! Why does Captain America have a beard?! Why is Iron Man blonde?!)
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: chronovore on June 06, 2010, 10:34:16 PM
i think you're looking at marvel's next two flops here
Yup. Captain America maybe, just maybe will be OK. Thor will tank, like a tank-shaped weight being dropped into a tank filled with other tanks.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 06, 2010, 10:36:32 PM
The nerd factor is quite high for both of these movies. I don't see them being hits. Iron Man is a cool super hero, and having RDJ play him makes him even cooler. Thor? Captain America? To make matters worse, both characters will be played by relatively unknown actors
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 06, 2010, 10:44:10 PM
Jeremy Renner is confirmed as Hawkeye, decent choice I guess
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 06, 2010, 10:56:04 PM
They'll do well enough.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 06, 2010, 11:02:54 PM
I think Marvel is wrong to force all these bloody origin stories on the public first. There's no reason why they couldn't just go straight to an Avengers movie, and spin-off characters later if they catch on with moviegoers. It worked just fine for X-Men (and Wolverine).

The problem with origin stories is that they're all old as the hills, and everyone can see where they are going miles away 'cause all the movies have the same cookie-cutter approach. Also, origin stories are by no means the best or most memorable stories featuring that character, in most cases. If you look at something like Giant-Sized X-Men #1, the origins for the likes of Storm, Nightcrawler and Wolverine are about a page each. If you need to do it, do it like that and get on with telling a real story. It may not make it to a trilogy so you can tell the cooler stories you have in mind!
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 06, 2010, 11:07:21 PM
i think you're looking at marvel's next two flops here
Yup. Captain America maybe, just maybe will be OK. Thor will tank, like a tank-shaped weight being dropped into a tank filled with other tanks.

:lol
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 06, 2010, 11:15:15 PM
Captain America will be a big hit based on iconic advertisement alone.

Thor though, it's gonna be another Hulk.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: ManaByte on June 06, 2010, 11:37:11 PM
Captain America will be a big hit based on iconic advertisement alone.

Thor though, it's gonna be another Hulk.

By another Hulk you mean another Ang Lee Hulk or Ed Norton Hulk that earned enough for a sequel to be made after The Avengers?
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 07, 2010, 12:11:37 AM
Captain America will be a big hit based on iconic advertisement alone.

Thor though, it's gonna be another Hulk.

By another Hulk you mean another Ang Lee Hulk or Ed Norton Hulk that earned enough for a sequel to be made after The Avengers?

They both made roughly the same amount.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: ManaByte on June 07, 2010, 12:14:00 AM
Ang Lee Hulk sucked though.

And Marvel has already said they're looking at a Norton Hulk sequel after Avengers.
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2010, 02:13:30 AM
Horay for barely passing the bar Hulk!
Title: Re: Behold! Captain America: The First Avenger!
Post by: Diunx on June 07, 2010, 11:19:23 AM
The Incredible Hulk was great, exactly what I wanted on a Hulk movie, the only negative was Liv Tyler, how can they go from Jennifer Connelly to that? :yuck