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Title: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Rman on June 15, 2010, 02:50:02 PM
"Reserved for specs"


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Games in development:
DJ Hero 3D


AQ Interactive

Cubic ninja

Atlus

Shin Megami Tensei
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor

Capcom

Resident Evil Revelations
Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition (name not final)

EA

EA FIFA Soccer
Madden NFL
The Sims 3

Gameloft

Asphalt DS

Harmonix

Music Game

Hudson Soft

Bomberman franchise
Deca Sports franchise
Kororinpa franchise

Konami

Baseball franchise
Contra franchise
Frogger franchise
Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater 3D "The Naked Sample"
Pro Evolution Soccer franchise / Winning Eleven franchise

Level-5

Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (name not final)

Majesco Entertainment

BloodRayne: The Shroud
A Boy and His Blob
Face Racers: Photo Finish
Lion's Pride: Adventures on the Serengeti
Martha Stewart
WonderWorld Amusement Park

Marvelous

Bokujyoumonogatari (Harvest Moon) 3D (name not final)

Namco

Dragon Ball franchise (name not final)
Gundam franchise (name not final)
PAC-MANTM & GALAGATM (name not final)
Ridge Racer (name not final)
Super Robot franchise (name not final)

Nintendo

Animal Crossing Kid Icarus: Uprising
Mario Kart
Nintendo Dogs + cats
Paper Mario
PilotWings Resort
Star Fox 64 3D
Steel Diver

Rocket

Crash-City GP
VS-robo

Sega

Sonic (name not final)
Super Monkey Ball (name not final)

Square Enix

CODENAME: Chocobo Racing
3D Dragon Quest franchise
Final Fantasy franchise
Kingdom Hearts franchise

Take-Two Interactive

Carnival Games franchise

Tecmo Koei

Dead or Alive 3D (name not final)
Dynasty Warriors (name not final)
Ninja Gaiden (name not final)
Samurai Warriors 3D (name not final)

TOMY

Lovely Lisa 3D
Naruto Shippuden Action

THQ

de Blob 2
Kung Fu Panda
Kaboom of Doom
Marvel Super Hero Squad
Infinity Gauntlet
The Penguins of Madagascar
Puss N Boots
Saints Row: Drive-By

Ubisoft

Assassin's Creed: Lost Legacy
Battle of Giants: Dinosaur Strike
Driver Renegade Hollywood 61 (name not final)
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory

Warner Bros

Batman franchise
LEGO franchise

I'm actually quite surprised at its fidelity.  I was very skeptical of the its graphical prowess given the Wii's and DS's underpowered chipsets. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS
Post by: Beezy on June 15, 2010, 02:53:44 PM
I'm actually quite surprised at its fidelity.  I was very skeptical of the its graphical prowess given the Wii and DS underpowered chipsets. 
Nintendo has money to burn now. I expect a lot from their next console.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 15, 2010, 02:55:31 PM
i'll ask again
does this have bigger screen than a phat ds?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 15, 2010, 02:56:27 PM
The title lineup looks exactly like the PS3 title lineup.


Still waiting on Shin Megami Tensei PS3, Super Robot Wars PS3, etc...
taking this with a large grain of salt.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on June 15, 2010, 04:45:26 PM
My guess is that it's going to be xbox1 level graphics if they're porting Chaos Theory.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: bork on June 15, 2010, 04:52:53 PM
My guess is that it's going to be xbox1 level graphics if they're porting Chaos Theory.

There's already plenty of early pictures out.  Most games look on par with the PSP.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bloodwake on June 15, 2010, 05:02:54 PM
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098192p1.html (http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098192p1.html)

:hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 15, 2010, 05:06:42 PM
http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098192p1.html (http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098192p1.html)

:hyper :hyper

page not found
oh weird now it shown

as i said port on a newborn console are lame as fuck
nintendo and konami are so lazy
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2010, 05:08:09 PM
day one.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on June 15, 2010, 05:17:58 PM
best handheld ever.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 15, 2010, 05:52:25 PM
Oh Reggie
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2010, 05:53:40 PM
Nintendo just fucking butt-raped Apple with their dumb as fuck attempt at supplanting the DS. Did Jobs think Iwata was gonna pass that shit up and let him have that marketshare? Lawl. 3D. Gyro. Motion Sensing. Two fucking cameras on the outside to take 3D pics. A third camera—a third motherfucking camera motherfucker—usable for gameplay, letting your nintendog see you and react to you.

Fuckin' genius up in this motherfuckin' industry motherfuckers.

Fuckin' fuck yeah Nintendo motherfucker YEAH YEAH
:lol

:bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on June 15, 2010, 05:54:41 PM
My guess is that it's going to be xbox1 level graphics if they're porting Chaos Theory.
There's already plenty of early pictures out.  Most games look on par with the PSP.
Possibly, some games like Kid Icarus look really good though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TripleA on June 15, 2010, 06:05:48 PM
Once again, Nintendo has saved the videogame industry.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TripleA on June 15, 2010, 06:07:45 PM
Nintendo just fucking butt-raped Apple with their dumb as fuck attempt at supplanting the DS. Did Jobs think Iwata was gonna pass that shit up and let him have that marketshare? Lawl. 3D. Gyro. Motion Sensing. Two fucking cameras on the outside to take 3D pics. A third camera—a third motherfucking camera motherfucker—usable for gameplay, letting your nintendog see you and react to you.

Fuckin' genius up in this motherfuckin' industry motherfuckers.

Fuckin' fuck yeah Nintendo motherfucker YEAH YEAH

 :rapetime

spoiler (click to show/hide)
for everyone in the portable gaming space
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Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 15, 2010, 06:09:14 PM
Because having the Japanese industry stuck making PS2 games for another 10 years is just what it's needed.

PS2 2000-2007
Wii (aka PS2 #2) 2006-2012
3DS (aka PS2 #3) 2011-2015

Japanese developers will continue being stuck in the past and fall further and further behind western developers.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 15, 2010, 06:10:10 PM
Impressions from Garnett Lee below.  Sounds awesome!  

On the way our of Nintendo's E3 press briefing I got to play with a 3DS that had a demo video running on its 3D screen. One look at that screen drove home how much difference it makes to watch the device without glasses. The images were vibrant and that worked naturally with the 3D effect to pop everything out. It brought into sharp contrast the dimming caused by the glasses used for the various large screen 3D technologies.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/64317
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 15, 2010, 06:10:31 PM
i don't see anything bad with that if it means access to more developers,maybe this will give the space for a developer like atlus to do something serious for once for example!
of course if they just have to turn the 3DS into a port machine they can go fuck themself

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Rman on June 15, 2010, 06:13:03 PM
Because having the Japanese industry stuck making PS2 games for another 10 years is just what it's needed.

PS2 2000-2007
Wii (aka PS2 #2) 2006-2012
3DS (aka PS2 #3) 2011-2015

Japanese developers will continue being stuck in the past and fall further and further behind western developers.
I don't think you can blame the developers, when the game buying public in Japan has shown its preference for portable games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 15, 2010, 06:13:53 PM
Because having the Japanese industry stuck making PS2 games for another 10 years is just what it's needed.

PS2 2000-2007
Wii (aka PS2 #2) 2006-2012
3DS (aka PS2 #3) 2011-2015

Japanese developers will continue being stuck in the past and fall further and further behind western developers.

That's not going to change until Japanese gamers decided that they're tired of playing the same old crap and PS2 era visuals.  Despite what logic dictates, Japanese game companies just don't care as much about the much larger Western market.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2010, 06:14:02 PM
Because having the Japanese industry stuck making PS2 games for another 10 years is just what it's needed.

PS2 2000-2007
Wii (aka PS2 #2) 2006-2012
3DS (aka PS2 #3) 2011-2015

Japanese developers will continue being stuck in the past and fall further and further behind western developers.

you're forgetting the PSP

I don't see what's so bad about it.  The cost to make games is way less and it's just enough tech pull off almost any style of game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on June 15, 2010, 06:15:53 PM
Because having the Japanese industry stuck making PS2 games for another 10 years is just what it's needed.
PS2 2000-2007
Wii (aka PS2 #2) 2006-2012
3DS (aka PS2 #3) 2011-2015
Japanese developers will continue being stuck in the past and fall further and further behind western developers.
Well honestly, that level of hardware is good enough to make 3D decent enough that it doesn't hurt your eyes at least.  A few Wii games like Metroid Prime, Mario Galaxy, etc even make me forget I'm playing such "primitive" graphics.

How much more were you expecting of the 3DS though?  Like Doom 3 level?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 15, 2010, 06:19:09 PM
you know one thing that worries me is that the 3DS is going to be the death of 2D
if you make a 2D game there can't be no 3D gimmick sooooooooooo...
I wish the resolution were higher. :'(
i seems to understand the screen are the same size of the ds
if that's so i wish the screen would be biggers
specialy since nintendo already made the DSXL >:(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 15, 2010, 06:20:17 PM
I think the problem is the we've been seeing the results.  The Japanese market is shrinking, Japanese developers are going bankrupt, and the majority of games that people care about are coming from US or Euro developers.  

Does anyone care about The Last Ranker?  Capcom's sinking all this money into making an AAA level rpg for psp.  The staff are big name people in every field (FF writer, Etrian Odyssey game designer, KH composer, BoF/DMC artist).  But for the most part the game is irrelevant.  It'll sell 50-100k in Japan, sell 10k in the US, 10k in Europe and end up being a huge waste of everyone's time on the development team for the last 2 years.

Even Peace Walker is going to be the lowest selling MGS game.

Xenoblade isn't even coming to the west it looks like and the sales will probably doom it to being the last console budget rpg Takahashi ever makes.


This PS2 quality AAA tier games on Wii/PSP/DS model...isn't working.  So we either get super low budget stuff that is profitable or Jdevs going out of business.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2010, 06:20:47 PM
you know one thing that worries me is that the 3DS is going to be the death of 2D
if you make a 2D game there can't be no 3D gimmick sooooooooooo...
I wish the resolution were higher. :'(
i seems to understand the screen are the same size of the ds
if that's so i wish the screen would be biggers
specialy since nintendo already made the DSXL >:(

2D graphics or gameplay? they showed off a bunch of 2D games like Donkey Kong and Kirby just now
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 15, 2010, 06:21:55 PM
Yeah, basic 3D effects can easily be done with a 2D game like Castlevania.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Beezy on June 15, 2010, 06:22:02 PM
Even Peace Walker is going to be the lowest selling MGS game.
Not if they port it to the 3DS. :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 15, 2010, 06:22:47 PM
2D graphics obviously

bebpo - are higher budget title doing any better? the industry just plain suck and reward the same guys over and over (here's another mario! here's another waggle game! here's another call of duty!) while any newbye is left picking up the leftover
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 15, 2010, 06:24:04 PM
Well, higher budget ones have more of a chance to get noticed worldwide and do well.  But when doing them the developers have to understand worldwide appeal like Capcom or Kojima.

I dunno, either way the Japanese industry is fucked.  I expect jrpgs to be dead in the next 5-10 years.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 15, 2010, 06:27:28 PM
nah at worst we'll get dragon quest 20 :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Rman on June 15, 2010, 06:30:13 PM
Well, higher budget ones have more of a chance to get noticed worldwide and do well.  But when doing them the developers have to understand worldwide appeal like Capcom or Kojima.

I dunno, either way the Japanese industry is fucked.  I expect jrpgs to be dead in the next 5-10 years.
Well PS3 sales are getting better.  And it's getting much better support.  I don't think I'll reach PS2 levels of ubiquity, but I don't think its that bad. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 15, 2010, 06:31:50 PM
Japan has always been behind the West in terms of technological wizardry.  It's just that in the past, the tech disadvantage didn't really matter because the Japs more than make up for it with superior artistic elements, such as character models and better color palettes.  However, this gen, Western games have moved so far ahead that even the lousy art don't stop them from looking better than their Jap counterparts.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on June 15, 2010, 06:54:37 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21881917&postcount=220
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21881853&postcount=75

GODDAMN I WANT THIS NOW


IWATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on June 15, 2010, 06:57:23 PM
That new RE game doesn't look real-time.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 15, 2010, 06:58:17 PM
Any footage of Kid Icarus yet? The liveblog that I read at work said it looked like a Wii game in terms of fidelity
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on June 15, 2010, 06:59:16 PM
Any footage of Kid Icarus yet? The liveblog that I read at work said it looked like a Wii game in terms of fidelity
it looked better actually.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2010, 07:00:32 PM
Any footage of Kid Icarus yet? The liveblog that I read at work said it looked like a Wii game in terms of fidelity

http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/14323409/sora-project/videos/e310_kidicarus_trl_061510.html
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Diunx on June 15, 2010, 07:02:26 PM
Holy shit a metal gear!? looks like I'm buying one of these things :drool
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 15, 2010, 07:04:44 PM
MGS got my attention
A remake of MGS3 squandered it.

MGS3 is the best game of all time but a tiny low res version with gimmicks tak'd on doesn't interest me at all. plus having real time cutscenes is a terrible idea. the comic book cutscenes in the PSP games are great and a much better way of telling the story when you dont have the proper graphical fidelity
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 15, 2010, 07:04:50 PM
awww, its a shooter? boooooo
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on June 15, 2010, 07:07:41 PM
Looks hot. Let's hope Nintendo hasn't stepped up their game in the realm of piracy prevention.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Vizzys on June 15, 2010, 07:15:01 PM
ill take one in black

no glossy blue for me thanks
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on June 15, 2010, 07:23:43 PM
Yeah, I'd rather not buy one of those ugly aqua colored ones but in the end I'm not that picky.  Hell, my DS Light is hot pink because that's all they had left in stock at the time.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on June 15, 2010, 07:24:33 PM
pink is a manly color.

be proud.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2010, 07:25:39 PM
i'll buy one when i can see some nazi brains flying out of it
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Oblivion on June 15, 2010, 07:27:25 PM
The DS was an N64 without texture filtering, and now the 3DS is a GC without texture filtering.

:piss Nintendo
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on June 15, 2010, 07:28:21 PM
The DS was an N64 without texture filtering, and now the 3DS is a GC without texture filtering.

:piss Nintendo

look at this nfag
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2010, 07:34:09 PM
I wish the resolution were higher. :'(

This is the one thing that disappoints me. I was hoping the screen would around the size of the psp.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2010, 07:38:48 PM
I wish the resolution were higher. :'(

This is the one thing that disappoints me. I was hoping the screen would around the size of the psp.

smaller than the PSP.  actually, it's size of a PSP go screen, right?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 15, 2010, 07:47:32 PM
Also, the screens for the games we've seen are only the images we see with one eye, not the two combined.  Don't know if that helps at all.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2010, 07:52:04 PM
Also, the screens for the games we've seen are only the images we see with one eye, not the two combined.  Don't know if that helps at all.

It won't improve the image quality or anything but the effect would definitely make it more impressive.

I wonder if Nintendo will require every game to be 3D.  Technically they should be able to pump out more power if they didn't use 3D at all.

I also wonder if they will announce virtual console for it
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2010, 07:53:52 PM
I wish the resolution were higher. :'(

This is the one thing that disappoints me. I was hoping the screen would around the size of the psp.

smaller than the PSP.  actually, it's size of a PSP go screen, right?

Huh? I know it's smaller, I was hoping both screens would be the size of psp screens. :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2010, 07:56:47 PM
I just realized what Kid Icarus reminds me of--Gungage on the PS1.  That was driving me crazy.

I wish the resolution were higher. :'(

This is the one thing that disappoints me. I was hoping the screen would around the size of the psp.

smaller than the PSP.  actually, it's size of a PSP go screen, right?

Huh? I know it's smaller, I was hoping both screens would be the size of psp screens. :(

It seems like the bottom screen is the same size as the DSi screen (which is slightly bigger than the DS and DS Lite screen) while the top screen is increased horizontally because it's widescreen now.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 15, 2010, 08:00:53 PM
I wonder if Nintendo will require every game to be 3D.  Technically they should be able to pump out more power if they didn't use 3D at all.

Good point.  I forgot about that.  Maybe 3DS really does have that greater than Xbox 1 power that was rumored. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 15, 2010, 08:01:49 PM
I wonder if Nintendo will require every game to be 3D.  Technically they should be able to pump out more power if they didn't use 3D at all.

Good point.  I forgot about that.  Maybe 3DS really does have that greater than Xbox 1 power that was rumored. 

so it is better than wii?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2010, 08:19:05 PM
I just read the specs and the screens are still really low-res.  Better than the DS, but still really bad.

Bottom screen is smaller than the DSi screen at 3 inch (size of DS Lite, I think) and 320x240 resolution  :-\

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Beezy on June 15, 2010, 08:32:50 PM
Wait for the 3DSi
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 15, 2010, 08:39:15 PM
But 3D tends to reduce performance by at least 50%.  It's possible that Nintendo has figured a more effective method but it's kinda hard to believe that they can outdo Nvidia in the graphical realm.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 15, 2010, 08:44:42 PM
So non-3d should be 400x240, no?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on June 15, 2010, 08:55:01 PM
What if the game is made of 2D sprites?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2010, 09:33:19 PM
This device's entire shtick is 3D gaming. I am 100% positive Nintendo won't allow games to ignore 3D functionality and just use a smaller resolution. That would defeat the entire purpose of this new handheld.

The system does actually allows you to turn off the 3D effect though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on June 15, 2010, 09:47:38 PM
More impressions.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMgWh2jbxJA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 15, 2010, 10:27:05 PM
More impressions.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMgWh2jbxJA[/youtube]

Those poor booth babes. Its like they're standing shoulder to shoulder in front of an geek firing line.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2010, 10:30:37 PM
if you think that's bad

[youtube=560,345]GYnyBxVhK_c[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 15, 2010, 10:33:14 PM
Just the perfect height to glance at titties. Oh Nintendo.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 15, 2010, 11:43:39 PM
Just saw the press conference, 3ds actually looked kind of cool.  Icarus looks like S&P2 yay and graphically not bad. 

Plus I'm all for 3DS now after seeing Golden Sun DS shown.  If 3DS means the end of dogshit ugly 3d gaming, then hell yes let's get that out today!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 15, 2010, 11:45:58 PM
I want one.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: pilonv1 on June 15, 2010, 11:46:57 PM
Awesome more Nintendo ports. BUT IN 3D
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Enl on June 15, 2010, 11:47:49 PM
This must have  been some sort of twisted social experiment. Can Nintendo keep their sweaty fans' attention on their 3d screens rather than on the girl that it's attached to?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: demi on June 15, 2010, 11:50:31 PM
if you think that's bad

[youtube=560,345]GYnyBxVhK_c[/youtube]


I really like this video. You can see the effect is there, I'm sure its more POP when you get face time with it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2010, 11:58:38 PM
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=zHAawG5Dm5Z5aQ0GYq45A4h4l5k2TGxc

this is the best video of MGS

it runs much smoother than peace walker

then again, it might just be a tech demo type thing
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 16, 2010, 12:25:54 AM
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=zHAawG5Dm5Z5aQ0GYq45A4h4l5k2TGxc

this is the best video of MGS

it runs much smoother than peace walker

then again, it might just be a tech demo type thing

Well, the version you see of the game is a tech demo, but its most definitely a real title.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2010, 02:48:13 AM
More impressions.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMgWh2jbxJA[/youtube]

Those poor booth babes. Its like they're standing shoulder to shoulder in front of an geek firing line.

"I thought that 3D will take away from the graphics,but it doesn't at all"

lol

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on June 16, 2010, 04:08:59 AM
All those nerds playing with the 3DS instead of chatting up with booth babes.
smh
That's because Nintendo is very safety-conscious.  If you constantly looked from the 3D screen up to the girl's face, them you would get dizzy.  The safest thing to do is to have them sneak glances at the boobies. :ninja
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on June 16, 2010, 04:11:50 AM
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=zHAawG5Dm5Z5aQ0GYq45A4h4l5k2TGxc
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on June 16, 2010, 04:30:54 AM
Just saw the press conference, 3ds actually looked kind of cool.  Icarus looks like S&P2 yay and graphically not bad. 

Plus I'm all for 3DS now after seeing Golden Sun DS shown.  If 3DS means the end of dogshit ugly 3d gaming, then hell yes let's get that out today!
golden sun 3d is fine, take a look:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-golden-sun/101753
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-golden-sun/101751
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 16, 2010, 04:35:39 AM
if you think that's bad

[youtube=560,345]GYnyBxVhK_c[/youtube]


I really like this video. You can see the effect is there, I'm sure its more POP when you get face time with it.

Dem blonde tits :drool

DDDs > 3DS amirite
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2010, 04:42:14 AM
Eurogamer hands on,DF guy says Dreamcast,PS2 level hardware


http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/egtv-reaction-nintendo-3ds?size=large (http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/egtv-reaction-nintendo-3ds?size=large)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 05:00:37 AM
i don't really see the 3D effect...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 05:59:50 AM
i'm pretty sure i once saw a video where you could notice the 3D effect
and besides it was more a reply to this
Quote
I really like this video. You can see the effect is there, I'm sure its more POP when you get face time with it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 16, 2010, 06:19:25 AM
I really like the 3DS and I am actually excited for this. How come Sony is always one step behind nintendo when it comes to things like this?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2010, 06:35:36 AM
I really like the 3DS and I am actually excited for this. How come Sony is always one step behind nintendo when it comes to things like this?
Sony=half assed stuff

Why?Simple

They always put tech first and then they try to patch the rest.

Nintendo=tech is just a tool,everything else comes first.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 16, 2010, 06:38:28 AM
I really like the 3DS and I am actually excited for this. How come Sony is always one step behind nintendo when it comes to things like this?
Sony=half assed stuff

Why?Simple

They always put tech first and then they try to patch the rest.

Nintendo=tech is just a tool,everything else comes first.

true. The only thing that slightly disappoints me with the 3DS is the design itself. Yes it is a DS, and I liked to have a more stylized product. But oh well, wait for the re-design i guess.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2010, 06:41:43 AM
That design is not final,btw
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 16, 2010, 06:42:27 AM
That design is not final,btw

who said that?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2010, 06:46:20 AM
I read it somewhere,will post if i find it
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2010, 06:56:17 AM
Here :lol


Here are the released features and hardware specs from Nintendo:

Quote from: E3.Nintendo.com

Size (when closed):
Approximately 5.3 inches wide, 2.9 inches long, 0.8 inches tall.

Weight:
Approximately 8 ounces.

Look:
Final design is TBA.

Top Screen:
3.53-inch widescreen LCD display, enabling 3D view without the need for special glasses; with 800x240 pixel resolution (400 pixels are allocated for each eye to enable 3D viewing).

Touch Screen:
3.02-inch LCD with 320x240 pixel resolution with a touch screen.

Cameras:
One inner camera and two outer cameras with 640x480 (0.3 Mega) pixel resolution.
 
Pre-Installed Software:
TBA
 
Nintendo 3DS Game Card:
2 GB Max. at launch.

Wireless Communication:
Can communicate in the 2.4 GHz band. Multiple Nintendo 3DS systems can connect via a local wireless connection to let users communicate or enjoy competitive game play. Systems also can connect to LAN access points to access the Internet and allow people to enjoy games with others. Will support IEEE 802.11 with enhanced security (WPA/WPA2). Nintendo 3DS hardware is designed so that even when not in use, it can automatically exchange data with other Nintendo 3DS systems or receive data via the Internet while in sleep mode.

Game Controls:
Touch screen, embedded microphone, A/B/X/Y face buttons, + Control Pad, L/R buttons, Start and Select buttons, "Slide Pad" that allows 360-degree analog input, one inner camera, two outer cameras, motion sensor and a gyro sensor.

Other Input Controls:
3D Depth Slider to adjust level of 3D effect (can be scaled back or turned off completely depending on the preference of the user), Home button to call system function, Wireless switch to turn off wireless communications (even during game play), Power button. The telescoping stylus is approximately 4 inches when fully extended.

Input/Output:
A port that accepts both Nintendo 3DS game cards and game cards for the Nintendo DS™ family of systems, an SD memory card slot, an AC adapter connector, a charging cradle terminal and a stereo headphone output jack.

Sound:
Stereo speakers positioned to the left and right of the top screen.

Battery:
Lithium ion battery details TBA.

Languages:
TBA

Parental Controls:
Parental controls similar to the Nintendo DSi system will be included.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 06:59:46 AM
What is this about using analog stick while using stylus in right hand? I can't do that shit. I'm left-handed. Writing with my right is awkward as fuck and impossible. A flick of the wrist? Sure. Swinging my arm? Sure. But using the stylus, which is the equivalent of holding a pen, in my right?

What game even uses this scheme? The gaf thread is not being specific at all. Kid Icarus doesn't need touch controls. With an analog stick that's all you need for a fucking rail shooter.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2010, 07:09:06 AM
I wish they put second analog,there is a room for it...

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 07:12:33 AM
Are you fucking kidding me, Nintendo?

Kid Icarus is my game of the show and it sounds like I prolly can't even play it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 07:14:08 AM
:rofl
maybe they will put a "move around with buttons" mode?
that's what they did for several left mode game on the ds
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 07:22:14 AM
Okay, to test this out, as I have NEVER played a game with the stylus in my right hand EVER, I played a level of Elite Beat Agents with my stylus in my right.

I thought it would turn out badly, but I did about as well I would with my left. It was awkward for about 5 seconds, then it was business as usual.

So maybe the problem really isn't that bad for lefties like me who lean on the ambidextrous side of things.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on June 16, 2010, 07:39:47 AM
Maybe they will release a left handed version for you lefties(the 3ds that is).
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 07:49:21 AM
Maybe they will release a left handed version for you lefties(the 3ds that is).

Uhhh what? That sounds awful.

That means the main stick would be on the right side of the system.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Reb on June 16, 2010, 08:11:30 AM
i'm pretty sure i once saw a video where you could notice the 3D effect
and besides it was more a reply to this
Quote
I really like this video. You can see the effect is there, I'm sure its more POP when you get face time with it.

anyone claiming to be able to see a 3d effect is wrong. yes, you can see the two layers from certain angles, but since there is no perception of depth in a 2D video, it just looks like you're seeing double. you can "see" that there is a 3d effect because you can see those layers, but you can't actually observe the 3d effect itself. some people mistake that slight perspective wobble when you move the camera back and forth for a 3d effect, similar to what happens in that famous jurassic park gif. it's not the same, however. the 3ds' 3d can only be seen in real life, by design. that's just how that kind of screen, that kind of technology works.

here's a "test" that should proof this (and the fact that you can't actually "see" the 3d in a video): the depth of the 3d on the 3ds will be noticable even in a static scene. there is no need for movement. if you were looking at a static scene on the device it would appear to have depth, you wouldn't have to move your head or the device, or the camera in the game. now, if you are looking at a video on your screen at home of what you THINK you are observing as a 3d effect, pause the video. "3d effect" still there? nope.

:lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: naff on June 16, 2010, 08:31:18 AM
i don't really see the 3D effect...


Pay attention from 0:45 you can really see the different layers as he moves the camera and you can imagine how the 3d effect would pop if you were really there.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: naff on June 16, 2010, 08:42:09 AM
Quote
Konami is producing a version of its hit PlayStation 3 game Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater for the Nintendo 3DS. The demo showed a first-person sequence in which all sorts of crazy things happened to hero Solid Snake, all playing with the 3-D effect: Knives flew at the camera, and a massive alligator snapped its long jaws.

 :D

Only just realised reading this (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/06/nintendo-3ds-3/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29&utm_content=Google+International) that this was happening. Seems this thing might get a good number of ports of older games due to :bow 3D gimmickry :bow2 with OoT and MGS3DS (omg) reportedly on the way.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2010, 09:14:14 AM
You guys think there is any chance of a Monster Hunter game for 3DS?

100%.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: archie4208 on June 16, 2010, 09:16:29 AM
I bet the 3DS gets a ton of PSP ports. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 09:24:37 AM
Man, I seriously think this is it for the psp2.

Seriously, and psp is my favorite handheld system ever.

How are they going to compete? They've lost their trump card and that being the fact that psp was technologically superior to the ds and included an analog stick for better controlling 3d games.

But now they're sitting here without an announced successor, while 3ds has already been given a tentative release date, shit loads of support right out the gate, with a 3d gimmick on top of it, and other means to combat apple.

3ds is the whole package.

And I highly doubt psp2 will be significantly more powerful than 3ds. Like a guy on gaf said, psp was a one time thing and sony can't afford to do the same trick twice. There's a REASON iphone and 3ds are just now catching up to psp. So this leaves psp's main advantage at the door with 3ds taking most of its support, including fucking Kojima.

Unless psp2 emphasizes on apps and media, I don't know how well they're going to go up against 3ds AND iphone/ipad.

Still, I'd really like psp2 (if it's even real) to succeed, because competition is good and 3ds is an example of that. I think the reason Nintendo is going all out with 3ds is because they feel threatened and WANT to keep their spot as top handheld dog.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 09:27:42 AM
if we get all psp games on the ds that can only be a good thing
i'm not sure why we should care about a potential psp2 destiny anyway
all nintendo needs to done is clap his hand,release a sequel to nintendog/brain training/pokemon/mario bros and sony is fucked even if it's selling you crysis on portable
Only thing that will suck with the 3DS is that Nintendo will overcharge their games again prob.
:pirate
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 09:37:24 AM
link to gb podcast
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: archie4208 on June 16, 2010, 09:37:37 AM
@Himuro, Nintendo obviously feels threatened, but I don't think they see Sony as a major competitor in the handheld market.  Moreso, they probably see iDevices and $0.99 games as their largest obstacle.  The 3DS feels like it is going to be a home for 'premium' handheld games while the iPhone will be for time wasters on the bus.

Also, I think Sony is going to ride the PSP into the sunset and withdraw from handheld gaming and focus more energy on the PS3.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: naff on June 16, 2010, 09:47:49 AM
Also, I think Sony is going to ride the PSP into the sunset and withdraw from handheld gaming and focus more energy on the PS3.

I can imagine things panning out this way too, seems like it would be a waste to give up on the PSP though. 3DS will certainly be incredibly tough competition though. I can't imagine anyone not wanting a piece of that thing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 16, 2010, 09:55:59 AM
Who the fuck wants to use the buttons and the stylus at the same time anyway? It should be one or the other. Hand cramp total.

I don't understand why the bottom screen isn't capacitive.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 09:58:04 AM
@Himuro, Nintendo obviously feels threatened, but I don't think they see Sony as a major competitor in the handheld market.  Moreso, they probably see iDevices and $0.99 games as their largest obstacle.  The 3DS feels like it is going to be a home for 'premium' handheld games while the iPhone will be for time wasters on the bus.

Also, I think Sony is going to ride the PSP into the sunset and withdraw from handheld gaming and focus more energy on the PS3.

See, that's the thing though. psp is the first handheld EVER to be able to compete with Nintendo on the portable market. 50 MILLION UNITS. Before psp we had Tiger Electronics, Game.com, that NEOGEO pocket and fucking Game Gear.

So it'd be sad if Sony chooses to do this.

I mean, the psp is the best thing about modern Sony. Did you see that line up they got?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 10:01:16 AM
yeah but that's because the psp is a handheld ps2 and everybody loves the ps2

again i don't see the problem if the psp disappear,that just means that all the games will end up on a single console and everyone will have less headaches
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: archie4208 on June 16, 2010, 10:02:33 AM
I agree that the PSP's lineup is great (and better than the DS's IMO, barring SMT games), but the fact that Sony showed NO interest in competing (not even a price drop, what the hell?) makes me think that they are going to sit out for now.  They might come out with a new handheld in several years, but in the short term they are pretty much throwing in the towel.  Nintendo also has overwhelming support from third parties (which sounds incredibly weird to say :lol), and it will be incredibly difficult to woo them to develop for another, less popular, system.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 10:11:20 AM
yeah but that's because the psp is a handheld ps2 and everybody loves the ps2

again i don't see the problem if the psp disappear,that just means that all the games will end up on a single console and everyone will have less headaches

But competition = good

competition is the reason 3ds looks SO AWESOME to begin with
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: lordmaji on June 16, 2010, 10:14:52 AM
The 3DS and the games for it were the ONLY thing that saved Nintendo's show. The wii is just so damn blah...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 10:19:10 AM
wii's upcoming lineup looks better than the upcoming ps3/360 lineup imo.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TripleA on June 16, 2010, 10:20:00 AM
@Himuro, Nintendo obviously feels threatened, but I don't think they see Sony as a major competitor in the handheld market.  Moreso, they probably see iDevices and $0.99 games as their largest obstacle.  The 3DS feels like it is going to be a home for 'premium' handheld games while the iPhone will be for time wasters on the bus.

Also, I think Sony is going to ride the PSP into the sunset and withdraw from handheld gaming and focus more energy on the PS3.

See, that's the thing though. psp is the first handheld EVER to be able to compete with Nintendo on the portable market. 50 MILLION UNITS. Before psp we had Tiger Electronics, Game.com, that NEOGEO pocket and fucking Game Gear.

So it'd be sad if Sony chooses to do this.

I mean, the psp is the best thing about modern Sony. Did you see that line up they got?

60 Million, but who's counting anymore.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 10:24:04 AM
Epic Mickey looks alright.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 10:26:21 AM
wii's upcoming lineup looks better than the upcoming ps3/360 lineup imo.
well ps3/360 upcoming lineup looks like this
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/25275.jpg?t=1276698346)

i think at this point even the ds/psp lineup looks better than the upcoming ps3/360 lineup
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 10:30:58 AM

i think at this point even the ds/psp lineup looks better than the upcoming ps3/360 lineup

Of course it does. Like I said, handheld gaming future. Real games. No bullshit, no waggle, no generic bro gamer fragfests.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 10:32:30 AM
unless of course you like those things, as i do, in which case hahahaha you whiners
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2010, 10:33:29 AM
Who cares how much PSP sold,well except Sony,when nobody cares about its software...except Japan

PSP2 only chance is to launch in Japan quickly...if 3DS gets Monster Hunter...game over

Imagine what gaming division loss would be without PSP,now it's like 5-6 billion dollars.



Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 10:34:31 AM
i think mostly what's going on with gaming is that people are spending more time tearing their hair out and boohooing about it on message boards than they are seeking out new fun games to play
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 10:36:19 AM
you have people participating in threads talking about the backlog of games they bought but haven't played, but days later they're in another thread going BAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE FOR ME TO PLAY IT'S ALL SHOOTERS AND BOO HOO HOO *SNUFFLE*
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2010, 10:36:45 AM
wii's upcoming lineup looks better than the upcoming ps3/360 lineup imo.
well ps3/360 upcoming lineup looks like this
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/25275.jpg?t=1276698346)

i think at this point even the ds/psp lineup looks better than the upcoming ps3/360 lineup

Sorry,360 also has waggle fantasy aka Kinect 8)

But those pictures really look the same :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 10:36:51 AM
guys do you think this will have regional lock?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 10:40:27 AM
wii's upcoming lineup looks better than the upcoming ps3/360 lineup imo.
well ps3/360 upcoming lineup looks like this
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/25275.jpg?t=1276698346)

i think at this point even the ds/psp lineup looks better than the upcoming ps3/360 lineup

:lol :lol

:'(

On one hand I like FPS games. On the other hand I hate this dudebro shit going on.

But then I like MW series and it is just full of dudebro shit (rescuing Price from The Gulag)...

what is going on with gaming?!?





I like fpses too. Heck, I love MW2.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 10:42:46 AM
guys do you think this will have regional lock?


pretty much confirmed, nintendo is a regional locking whore

Uhhhh it makes no sense to region lock portable systems.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 10:43:23 AM
you have people participating in threads talking about the backlog of games they bought but haven't played, but days later they're in another thread going BAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE FOR ME TO PLAY IT'S ALL SHOOTERS AND BOO HOO HOO *SNUFFLE*

:bow Eel O'Brian :bow2

Fuck those assholes. This generation is fucking badass on all platforms.

:bow Crackdown 2 :bow2

:bow Mafia II :bow2

:bow Fallout New Vegas :bow2

:bow Dead Space 2 :bow2

:bow LittleBigPlanet 2 :piss2 (I am undecided on this one  :-\ )

:bow Steam Holiday Sale :bow2

and a bunch of other stuff i probably won't even have time to finish but will play anyway

:bow slime :bow2

:bow me :bow2

:bow real gamers without teary eyes :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 10:46:40 AM
guys do you think this will have regional lock?


pretty much confirmed, nintendo is a regional locking whore

Uhhhh it makes no sense to region lock portable systems.

DSi games are regional locked
this is nintendo,none of the things they do have sense
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 10:51:17 AM
are ALL dsi games locked

because that goes against the idea of portability
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 10:52:27 AM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/86668-DSi-Region-Locked
Quote
In a statement to CVG, Nintendo offers some explanation for the region lock. "DSi embeds net communication functionality within itself, and we are intending to provide net services specifically tailored for each region."
:rofl
oh man we are fucked!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 10:56:11 AM
So you can't import shit?

god
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 10:59:03 AM
I haven't pirated a ds game. I don't even have a flash cart. But i've been considering importing some games that have zero chance of making it here like Saga 2.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 10:59:45 AM
so what are the odds on 3DS coming out this year?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 11:02:53 AM
Nothing is yet known but based on NCL region locking DSi-only software and becoming increasingly aware of the global market release schedule it's becoming very likely.

Also, when is the last time you imported a Japanese DS game? I'm sure a majority of you here just pirate the damn games.
yes you are right
let me correct my statement

*ahem*
":rofl
oh man we EURO are fucked"
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 16, 2010, 11:12:03 AM
I know it's from a few pagers back, but I don't think aiming of controlling the camera on the 3DS is going to be as big a problem as it is on the PSP.  There is the touch screen, which I have no problem with after the DS and ipod touch games, and there is the motion stuff.  I think it has both accel and gyro, which would be the same as the new iphone and wii motion plus.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 16, 2010, 11:20:16 AM
you have people participating in threads talking about the backlog of games they bought but haven't played, but days later they're in another thread going BAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE FOR ME TO PLAY IT'S ALL SHOOTERS AND BOO HOO HOO *SNUFFLE*

:bow Eel O'Brian :bow2

Fuck those assholes. This generation is fucking badass on all platforms.

Yeah, every gen is always better than the last.  All the whining is mostly coming from Japtards like Himu and Bebpo.  Gaming sucked to them because the Japs just haven't kept up this gen and are reduced to making low budget Wii or handheld games.  



i think at this point even the ds/psp lineup looks better than the upcoming ps3/360 lineup

Of course it does. Like I said, handheld gaming future. Real games. No bullshit, no waggle, no generic bro gamer fragfests.

Not this bullshit again, ffs.  Japatards like you are why Japanese devs are increasingly becoming irrelevant.  Enjoy playing all JRPGS in the future on your 3 inch screen.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 11:25:51 AM
Not this bullshit again, ffs.  Japatards like you are why Japanese devs are increasingly becoming irrelevant.  Enjoy playing all JRPGS in the future on your 3 inch screen.  

(http://i49.tinypic.com/5xpas.gif)

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/25275.jpg?t=1276698346)


:smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 11:26:17 AM
DAMN BEATEN BY HIMURO
 >:(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 16, 2010, 11:27:31 AM
Still better than Cooking Mama and Monster Hunter.   :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: tiesto on June 16, 2010, 11:28:01 AM
you have people participating in threads talking about the backlog of games they bought but haven't played, but days later they're in another thread going BAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE FOR ME TO PLAY IT'S ALL SHOOTERS AND BOO HOO HOO *SNUFFLE*

:bow Eel O'Brian :bow2

Fuck those assholes. This generation is fucking badass on all platforms.

Yeah, every gen is always better than the last.  All the whining is mostly coming from Japtards like Himu and Bebpo.  Gaming sucked to them because the Japs just haven't kept up this gen and are reduced to making low budget Wii or handheld games.  



i think at this point even the ds/psp lineup looks better than the upcoming ps3/360 lineup

Of course it does. Like I said, handheld gaming future. Real games. No bullshit, no waggle, no generic bro gamer fragfests.

Not this bullshit again, ffs.  Japatards like you are why Japanese devs are increasingly becoming irrelevant.  Enjoy playing all JRPGS in the future on your 3 inch screen.  

Oh you mean the same Wii and DS that kicked the shit out of every other console in terms of sales?

And aren't you a PC gamer? Talk about being irrelevant :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 11:31:41 AM
like all jrpgs dont have the same characters himumu :lol

You're talking about story. In terms of gameplay, jrpgs are among, if not the most varied genre.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Beezy on June 16, 2010, 11:32:05 AM
No one thinks Nintendo would try to do a worldwide launch for the 3DS?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 16, 2010, 11:32:26 AM
you have people participating in threads talking about the backlog of games they bought but haven't played, but days later they're in another thread going BAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE FOR ME TO PLAY IT'S ALL SHOOTERS AND BOO HOO HOO *SNUFFLE*

:bow Eel O'Brian :bow2

Fuck those assholes. This generation is fucking badass on all platforms.

Yeah, every gen is always better than the last.  All the whining is mostly coming from Japtards like Himu and Bebpo.  Gaming sucked to them because the Japs just haven't kept up this gen and are reduced to making low budget Wii or handheld games.  



i think at this point even the ds/psp lineup looks better than the upcoming ps3/360 lineup

Of course it does. Like I said, handheld gaming future. Real games. No bullshit, no waggle, no generic bro gamer fragfests.

Not this bullshit again, ffs.  Japatards like you are why Japanese devs are increasingly becoming irrelevant.  Enjoy playing all JRPGS in the future on your 3 inch screen.  

Oh you mean the same Wii and DS that kicked the shit out of every other console in terms of sales?

And aren't you a PC gamer? Talk about being irrelevant :smug

sales=quality?

Also, strong sales for those platforms don't even contradict what I'm saying.  Japs are irrelevant this gen, i.e. PS3/360.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 11:32:28 AM
No one thinks Nintendo would try to do a worldwide launch for the 3DS?

They will.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 16, 2010, 11:32:30 AM
also, Kid Icarus looks awesome.  I like that it looks like a rail shooter now and a lot less like the original games. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 16, 2010, 11:33:52 AM
:bow shooters :bow2

:piss japwimps :piss2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 16, 2010, 11:34:47 AM
There should be a countdown until Capcom announces Monster Hunter 4 on the 3DS

No one thinks Nintendo would try to do a worldwide launch for the 3DS?

I think they might if only because they have some movie deals going on.  They'll probably have a health amount of 3D video content along with games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 11:35:35 AM
also, Kid Icarus looks awesome.  I like that it looks like a rail shooter now and a lot less like the original games. 

:bow rail shooters :bow2

the best type of shooter
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 16, 2010, 11:36:17 AM
When will Gamestop take 3DS preorders?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: tiesto on June 16, 2010, 11:36:42 AM
like all jrpgs dont have the same characters himumu :lol

They don't, not really. But to most non fans I guess seeing a few characters with spiky hair = every character is the same. Come out to where I live, it'll blow your mind. Lots of spiky hair here :P

Smooth: Wii/DS/PSP is still a part of this gen regardless of their graphical capabilities. And what Japanese devs lack in graphic capability (then again, FF13 looked awesome, as did VC and plenty of other Japanese HD games), they still make up for in originality, something many big budget American devs fail to grasp... OH LOOK DUR ANOTHER DUDEBRO SHOOTER!

Back to the OT. I'm just hoping the 3DS is once again region-free.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 11:50:58 AM
yeah i like rail shooters too

too bad there's no real quality rail shooter out there on par with half-life or whatever

Panzer Dragoon Zwei.

I'm glad that rail shooters seem to be making a comeback. Thanks Nintendo! We've got S&P2, Starfox AND Kid Icarus. :bow
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 11:51:33 AM
sales talk is the last desperate gasp of a failed argument
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 16, 2010, 11:52:58 AM
I want a new Space Harrier on the 3DS

Space Harrier music is the best
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2010, 11:54:23 AM
yeah i like rail shooters too

too bad there's no real quality rail shooter out there on par with half-life or whatever

Half-Life isn't a rail shooter...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 11:54:38 AM
Dude...new Space Harrier would be the shit.

Oh right, I forgot! Afterburner: Climax :bow

SHIT HAWT

YEAR OF THE RAIL SHOOTER THE ONLY SHOOTER THAT MATTERS

yeah i like rail shooters too

too bad there's no real quality rail shooter out there on par with half-life or whatever

Half-Life isn't a rail shooter...

He said on par.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: archie4208 on June 16, 2010, 11:55:48 AM
:bow Shooters :bow2

:bow Grindan :bow2

There is room for both.  :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: tiesto on June 16, 2010, 11:57:42 AM
yeah i like rail shooters too

too bad there's no real quality rail shooter out there on par with half-life or whatever

Panzer Dragoon Zwei.

I'm glad that rail shooters seem to be making a comeback. Thanks Nintendo! We've got S&P2, Starfox AND Kid Icarus. :bow

Though it's Ubisoft, Child of Eden too :bow2

New Panzer Dragoon on 3DS would be HAWT. Or even a PD1/2 remake. I still haven't played the first 2.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 12:01:46 PM
yeah i like rail shooters too

too bad there's no real quality rail shooter out there on par with half-life or whatever

Panzer Dragoon Zwei.

I'm glad that rail shooters seem to be making a comeback. Thanks Nintendo! We've got S&P2, Starfox AND Kid Icarus. :bow

Though it's Ubisoft, Child of Eden too :bow2

New Panzer Dragoon on 3DS would be HAWT. Or even a PD1/2 remake. I still haven't played the first 2.

New Panzer Dragoon on 3ds would be amazing.

Hopefully with Nintendo reviving the rail shooter genre, Sega will revisit their classes like Space Harrier and Panzer. Or heck, a new rail shooter.

I forgot about Child of Eden. It's not Ubisoft, it's Q! More Jap devs making awesome.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 12:03:52 PM
i want at least a couple of good fps games, those are well suited to 3D environments since you're looking through your character's eyes

i don't even mind if they're ports

timesplitters 3D :hyper
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cubicle47b on June 16, 2010, 12:05:43 PM
If I had to guess I'd go with a December Japan launch with the US getting it next March.  I'm excited, hopefully we get a Wars game within the first year.  Days of Ruin maps are my material of choice while on the can.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 12:06:08 PM
yeah i like rail shooters too

too bad there's no real quality rail shooter out there on par with half-life or whatever

Panzer Dragoon Zwei.

I'm glad that rail shooters seem to be making a comeback. Thanks Nintendo! We've got S&P2, Starfox AND Kid Icarus. :bow

Though it's Ubisoft, Child of Eden too :bow2

New Panzer Dragoon on 3DS would be HAWT. Or even a PD1/2 remake. I still haven't played the first 2.

wait have you played Orta? Panzer 1 is in Orta as an unlockable :bow

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 16, 2010, 01:25:14 PM
Also, small point but, WHAT THE HELL WAS THE POINT IN DSi!? *nerd rage*

To test if they could secretly release a region-locked portable and get away with it.


Will be waiting very, very patiently for 3DS flashcards to get around the region lock bullshit that is sure to be in the 3DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: tiesto on June 16, 2010, 01:28:02 PM
yeah i like rail shooters too

too bad there's no real quality rail shooter out there on par with half-life or whatever

Panzer Dragoon Zwei.

I'm glad that rail shooters seem to be making a comeback. Thanks Nintendo! We've got S&P2, Starfox AND Kid Icarus. :bow

Though it's Ubisoft, Child of Eden too :bow2

New Panzer Dragoon on 3DS would be HAWT. Or even a PD1/2 remake. I still haven't played the first 2.

wait have you played Orta? Panzer 1 is in Orta as an unlockable :bow



Yeah, I beat Orta last year, but for some reason the first game never unlocked for me :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 16, 2010, 02:32:28 PM
yeah i like rail shooters too

too bad there's no real quality rail shooter out there on par with half-life or whatever

Panzer Dragoon Zwei.

I'm glad that rail shooters seem to be making a comeback. Thanks Nintendo! We've got S&P2, Starfox AND Kid Icarus. :bow

Though it's Ubisoft, Child of Eden too :bow2

New Panzer Dragoon on 3DS would be HAWT. Or even a PD1/2 remake. I still haven't played the first 2.

New Panzer Dragoon on 3ds would be amazing.


OMG THAT WOULD ROCK.  EXCITED NOW!!!!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 16, 2010, 02:39:29 PM
Man, I think Kid Icarus looks like poopy butts. Rail Shooters with semi pretty - semi ugly environments. Point with the Stylus and shoot :yuck . It looks as though its trying to maximize the 3D usage but when time moves on and games have integrated the 3D effect without compromising various aspects of the game, it will probably be remembered as one of those gimicky 3D games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 02:43:30 PM
You don't shoot with the stylus.

What aspects would be compromised from the 3d? It's a rail shooter. Plus while some of the environments look alright or even just decent, look at how fluid the action and animation is. How can anyone complain about that?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 16, 2010, 03:53:59 PM
Kid Icarus looks like a kingdom hearts game.  Im starting to think when you do some huge crossover game for a parent company you catch whatever affliction nomura has and sakurai now has.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 16, 2010, 03:57:02 PM
Wait, Kid Icarus is a rail shooter?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 04:03:04 PM
Yes, Kid Icarus is a rail shooter :bow2

[youtube=560,345]83VnVLxgAfY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 16, 2010, 04:04:22 PM
That's awesome. I really haven't had time to pay attention to E3. That and hand helds don't interest me much.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 04:07:46 PM
tech-wise, this is about as good as it's gonna get for a while with handhelds

psp2 is probably a couple years out, if it's even in the planning now

microsoft has absolutely no interest in handheld gaming

ps2 or so level of graphics is fine with me
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 04:08:27 PM
Exactly eel
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on June 16, 2010, 04:08:59 PM
I'm looking forward to the inevitable new Mega man series they'll make for the 3DS. Hopefully it'll be something really neat.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
i know i am in the minority, but i'd love to see some old favorite games ported over just for the novelty of 3D

if i could get a COD or MOH WWII collection - or remember the John Carpenter's The Thing game?  that would probably be pretty cool in 3D
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Third on June 16, 2010, 04:15:12 PM
So, it's true that Kid Icarus is an onrail shooter? Disgusting, Nintendo. Way to rape a comeback.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 04:16:41 PM
So, it's true that Kid Icarus is an onrail shooter? Disgusting, Nintendo. Way to rape a comeback.

Have you PLAYED the original Kid Icarus? It SUCKS.

Rail shooters, however, are awesome.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 04:18:23 PM
you know i don't understand this comeback

it's like if they made an rpg and then put the ice climbers on it
ICE CLIMBERS COMEBACK!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 16, 2010, 04:21:01 PM
So, it's true that Kid Icarus is an onrail shooter? Disgusting, Nintendo. Way to rape a comeback.

Have you PLAYED the original Kid Icarus? It SUCKS.

Rail shooters, however, are awesome.

Yeah, I agree with himuro on this.  The new one is a Sin & Punishment shooter (shoot/slash).  S&P is awesome.  This is by Sakurai who is also awesome.  Thus this will be a AWESOMELY AWESOME game.

Will take that over another Nintendo 2.5d platformer zzz
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2010, 04:46:24 PM
you know i don't understand this comeback

it's like if they made an rpg and then put the ice climbers on it
ICE CLIMBERS COMEBACK!


It's like if they made an FPS and put Samus in it!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Third on June 16, 2010, 04:46:57 PM
Are you guys crazy? We need more 2D platformers.
On rail shooters are getting old and boring.

And no, I've never played an Icarus game before. And this shooter won't change that.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 16, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
you know i don't understand this comeback

it's like if they made an rpg and then put the ice climbers on it
ICE CLIMBERS COMEBACK!


It's like if they made an FPS and put Samus in it!
yes! >:(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 05:06:58 PM
Are you guys crazy? We need more 2D platformers.
On rail shooters are getting old and boring.

And no, I've never played an Icarus game before. And this shooter won't change that.

We have plenty of 2d platformers lately, but rail shooters deserve a comeback
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 16, 2010, 05:15:24 PM
My boss just got us a Nintendo escort and now we are standing in the VIP line. My boss is pretty awesome. It's like Japanese executives have a secret language or something. Impressions incoming
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 05:17:34 PM
My boss just got us a Nintendo escort and now we are standing in the VIP line. My boss is pretty awesome. It's like Japanese executives have a secret language or something. Impressions incoming

SHO NUFF YOU ARE MISSING THE BEST CONFERENCE EVER
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 16, 2010, 06:27:01 PM
so any spec leaks yet?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 16, 2010, 06:28:34 PM
My boss just got us a Nintendo escort and now we are standing in the VIP line. My boss is pretty awesome. It's like Japanese executives have a secret language or something. Impressions incoming

SHO NUFF YOU ARE MISSING THE BEST CONFERENCE EVER

wait what?

Will give better impressions once I'm not on an iPhone
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 16, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
PSP PWNT
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 16, 2010, 06:41:44 PM
PSP PWNT

Not only PSP, but Wii as well.

3DS is fucking amazing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Diunx on June 16, 2010, 06:44:04 PM
Meh, the new GOW looks better.

:bow PSP :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 06:45:57 PM
Meh, the new GOW looks better.

:bow PSP :bow2

The RE shots are real time and controllable from the floor

(http://i46.tinypic.com/4k77yb.jpg)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on June 16, 2010, 06:46:08 PM
no word on the 3ds specs yet?  Honestly, that RE shot looks to me nearly as good as RE4 in some ways.  I guess we still need to see it in motion though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 16, 2010, 06:46:56 PM
Meh, the new GOW looks better.

:bow PSP :bow2

You realize that they have had years working on the PSP and 3DS hasnt even launched yet. Wow, that is so impressive  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 16, 2010, 07:02:21 PM
so any spec leaks yet?

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/kirbyguy99/1276659502860.jpg)

DUDEBRO

This is the most biased bs image ever.

Comparing a terrible gameplay shot of gameplay Big Boss face with a blurry texture right behind it to a real-time cutscene shot on the 3DS.  Smh
And then a dulled Peace Walker gameplay shot. 

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2lialnb.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/4rfbi9.jpg)

direct captures from the psp game.  The dithering is bad, but otherwise it looks real good.

And 3DS should rightfully look better since it's 6 years later after the PSP.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 16, 2010, 07:04:01 PM
shogmaster (sony fanboy at gaf) says that 3DS = PSP in graphics

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 16, 2010, 07:07:16 PM
didn't you guys read the digital foundry writeup?

It's better than a PSP, better than a Dreamcast and less than a PS2/GC.  But since it only has to output at super low resolution, the results will look close to PS2/GC and look good on the tiny screen + 3d effects.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Kestastrophe on June 16, 2010, 07:08:02 PM
Meh, the new GOW looks better.

:bow PSP :bow2

The RE shots are real time and controllable from the floor

(http://i46.tinypic.com/4k77yb.jpg)
no way
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Oblivion on June 16, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
Holy FUCK at that MGS DS screenshot if it's real.

edit: And the RE game too. :O :O :O
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 16, 2010, 07:12:33 PM
technically they can offer 4GB cart games right?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on June 16, 2010, 07:17:34 PM
It says 2 gigabytes max at launch.  They could have probably up to atleast 4 GB later, but i am guessing up to 8 GB.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 16, 2010, 07:18:37 PM
It says 2 gigabytes max at launch.  They could have probably up to atleast 4 GB later, but i am guessing up to 8 GB.

2GB is fine for that resolution anyway
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on June 16, 2010, 07:20:58 PM
Even with movies i would say so.  But i think they will reach a bit of limit with 2 GB for RPG's so i am guessing 4 Gb out soon.  I think it is because of pricing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 07:23:12 PM
hahaha RE is not gonna look like that

you see kid icarus, and pilot wings, that's what 3DS games are gonna look like

they've already said these are moveable pieces of scenery, and that's it

they're not games

don't gamefaqs this place up, please
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Diunx on June 16, 2010, 07:31:25 PM
That RE screen is as real as the first RE5 images :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on June 16, 2010, 07:32:03 PM
Is MGS peace walker for "unlocked" psps?  How long do those psps last while unlocked?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Rman on June 16, 2010, 07:41:40 PM
shogmaster (sony fanboy at gaf) says that 3DS = PSP in graphics


shog is not a sony fanboy. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 07:43:50 PM
it's probably packing a little more than psp
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Oblivion on June 16, 2010, 07:46:04 PM
don't gamefaqs this place up, please

 :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 16, 2010, 07:48:18 PM
whens this coming out
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Diunx on June 16, 2010, 07:52:00 PM
Is MGS peace walker for "unlocked" psps?  How long do those psps last while unlocked?

you mean hacked psps?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Rman on June 16, 2010, 07:53:46 PM
Is MGS peace walker for "unlocked" psps?  How long do those psps last while unlocked?

you mean hacked psps?
I think he's talking about 333mhz mode.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 16, 2010, 08:38:10 PM
You know, I just thought about it, and everything that the nthings wanted badly on the Wii is coming to the 3DS instead. :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 08:42:05 PM
3ds has achievements, friends lists n shit

Quote
Playing games is about playing games with my friends, and I want to know what my other friends are playing online. And that's going to give me the ability, and it's also going to let me know that - sports scores, because I'm interested in sports, exchanging achievements with other players. Because when you look at DS penetration rates, there are going to be a lot of friends to talk to and communicate with.

http://e3.nintendo.com/interviews/#/?v=interview_stradling
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 16, 2010, 08:46:16 PM
What you guys are forgetting in tech comparisons is that the system has to render three seperate images. Two images from different angles for the 3d effect and the bottom screen visuals too.  Thats pretty damn impressive when you think about it.

Unless I'm completely ignorant on how this all works.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Rman on June 16, 2010, 08:46:45 PM
You know, I just thought about it, and everything that the nthings wanted badly on the Wii is coming to the 3DS instead. :lol
Makes sense.  I feel that since the GBA Nintendo's focus has been on their handhelds.  Their most successful systems have been handhelds.  I just glad they're using some of that war chest and investing in decent tech.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 16, 2010, 08:47:42 PM
You know, I just thought about it, and everything that the nthings wanted badly on the Wii is coming to the 3DS instead. :lol

I know!  :lol

I really think Nintendo should have their main system be the 3DS.  I mean, with the exception of party games, there is no reason to not have these things on the 3DS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 08:52:08 PM
Have you guys read the theory that Nintendo made all this waggle crap to take on uncontested waters, they gain a huge following, so that Sony and MS would purposely try to take their "casual market share" and concentrate on casual gaming, so that Nintendo could go back to take the core gamers who are sick of Sony and MS' shit back at gaf? :lol

Like it was one elaborate rick roll to enhance the core gamer audience for Nintendo, at the same time winning a big casual gamer following. :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 16, 2010, 08:53:00 PM
Have you guys read the theory that Nintendo made all this waggle crap to take on uncontested waters, they gain a huge following, so that Sony and MS would purposely try to take their "casual market share" and concentrate on casual gaming, so that Nintendo could go back to take the core gamers who are sick of Sony and MS' shit back at gaf? :lol

Like it was one elaborate rick roll to enhance the core gamer audience for Nintendo, at the same time winning a big casual gamer following. :lol

I read that thread at GAF earlier today. Some people take this shit way too serious.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 16, 2010, 08:57:18 PM
Tell us himuro
...
do YOU believe that?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 09:09:12 PM
No. Although I do feel Nintendo DID get MS and Sony good. They have those two absolutely CONVINCED they can break into the casual market and yet they aren't getting one thing. Casual doesn't mean shovelware, casual means something ANYONE CAN PLAY -- like Mario or Mario Kart. It's clear that MS and to a lesser degree, Sony, don't get it all, and are now fully putting all their time and energy into gimmicks while Nintendo is now shelling out the GAMES. While I don't think Nintendo made some elaborate plot, but they did push MS and Sony against a wall.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 16, 2010, 09:18:11 PM
tech-wise, this is about as good as it's gonna get for a while with handhelds

psp2 is probably a couple years out, if it's even in the planning now

microsoft has absolutely no interest in handheld gaming

ps2 or so level of graphics is fine with me

PSP2 is mostly done, from what I hear. I'm very surprised that it wasn't announced. Apparently it will pack a lot more power than the 3DS too.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 09:23:54 PM
A lot more? Can Sony really do that again? Are they going to release ANOTHER 300 dollar handheld?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 16, 2010, 09:27:07 PM
I wonder if they'll put their OLED tech in the PSP2? Gonna' make the iPhone's screen look prehistoric :teehee (hyperbole)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 16, 2010, 09:27:57 PM
Why couldn't they do that again? I have no idea about the price but would it shock you to see it priced that high? They still haven't dropped the price of the PSP, so clearly they haven't learned that lesson.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 09:33:16 PM
Why couldn't they do that again? I have no idea about the price but would it shock you to see it priced that high? They still haven't dropped the price of the PSP, so clearly they haven't learned that lesson.

Because it'd be stupid. They should be trying to emulate ds as much as they can. They should follow the successes of ds and ipad/iphone so they can actually get some support. Because now that 3ds has analog nub and graphic capabilities of Kid Icarus and MGS3ds, there's very little reason to support psp even IF it's *a lot* more powerful than the 3ds. We haven't seen the psp2, but assuming it's just a reskinned psp but more powerful, there will be zero initiative to develop for the psp, especially given the new tricks the 3ds can do.

And let's figure in the lead that the 3ds will likely have over the unannounced psp2 as well. If the psp2 is 300 dollars like the original psp, it would be fuck stupid. End of story.

That doesn't mean it would be surprising though. :lol The fact that they haven't learned their lesson is WHY it appears they want to remain second or even third place. It's not surprising, but it'd still be dumb.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on June 16, 2010, 09:36:15 PM
step your price up
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 09:38:06 PM
I don't think psp2 needs 3d. I think if they concentrate on psp's biggest draw for a lot of people -- the media features, especially with that sexy screen, something even 3ds is lacking -- and apps ala ipad/iphone, and a better dedicated digital download store ala app store, it could go very very well with people. psp has the hardware numbers but sure as fuck doesn't have the software numbers. As much as it pains me to say it, I think a big emphasis on media and apps could go very well for them.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 09:50:09 PM
I think go was too ahead of its time. Good idea, but not the right time and certainly not the right implementation. But putting out an ONLY digital download psp with no umd support in the middle of the psp's life cycle -- alienating a lot of potential legit software buyers -- was a fool's error. :lol

They should offer a physical format drive as well as place an emphasis on digital download. Offer things on the psp digi download service you can't BUY on umd or anywhere else, like with ipod apps.

I think emulating apple is their best bet more so than emulating the ds, though they should keep the ds and 3ds close to heart. Because iphone/ipad are already in line with what the psp set out to do to begin with: create an portable machine that does everything. By offering apps, user content, the ability to play mp3s, the ability to watch movies, play casual (possibly get support from iphone/ipad devs) AND core games. You'd have a machine that really does EVERYTHING -- except 3d :lol

They also need to ditch xmb for psp and include touch screen and internal hard drive: no more flash card drive, less piracy. Sony could go either way here, and it's pretty exciting because I want to know what they're going to do AND because I have a feeling I'm witnessing a trainwreck slowly happen before my very eyes.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 16, 2010, 09:54:02 PM
3DS is supposed to have media features.  They're even bringing various 3D movies like How to Train your Dragon to the thing and you know kids will love that stuff.

I really think the 3DS has everything pretty much covered.  Third party support is more than solid.  The tech is capable enough to have any genre of game without it looking like butt.  The online stuff sounds a decade ahead of what the Wii is doing with friends list and achievements.  There is going to be the 3DSware at launch; that is your "app store".  Backwards compatible with DS games.   Then there is the 'comparable to DSi' battery life (~10 hours).  It even has a 3D camera that is pretty rare.  Chances are it won't be that expensive either.  Plus it's following the already mammoth DS and it's a Nintendo product.

Sony is basically stuck.  The PSP is foundering as is and just pushing more tech and producing better visuals won't really help considering that was their strategy with the PSP versus DS.  Back then the PSP was branded as a media device that can do everything, but unlike back then, Apple has that stuff down too.  Maybe they can partner with Google or something and make a proper Android gaming platform or something.  Then there are problems that come with having an even more powerful handheld like the budget required to take advantage of that hardware.   Say it is a 360 quality game--what is the incentive to release it exclusively on the PSP.

Not to sound grim, but all I'm hoping for from Sony is for them to get at a point where I can play PSP games on my PS3.  Sony needs to embrace their role of the Gamecube era Nintendo.  Hopefully that happens before they try to sell Untold Legends Party Quest that requires four PSPs and a PS3 to play.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 09:54:34 PM
3ds is supposed to have media features, but who the fuck wants to watch a 3d movie on a 3 inch screen?

While it has media features, media doesn't seem to be the FOCUS.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 16, 2010, 09:59:35 PM
ipod touch and 3ds have the same size screen
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 16, 2010, 10:00:05 PM
Really?

Never fucking mind.

:lol

Game. Set. Match.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 10:00:27 PM
tech-wise, this is about as good as it's gonna get for a while with handhelds

psp2 is probably a couple years out, if it's even in the planning now

microsoft has absolutely no interest in handheld gaming

ps2 or so level of graphics is fine with me

PSP2 is mostly done, from what I hear. I'm very surprised that it wasn't announced. Apparently it will pack a lot more power than the 3DS too.

I was not aware of that!  Sounds cool, please let your sources know i have two thumbs
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 10:03:21 PM
other than gearing up to make a concerted effort to crush google apple's not really competing with anyone, that's just some messageboard fantasy, they just want them app dollars
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 10:04:14 PM
Ehh, the PSP2 is not much of a secret at this point.

i didn't know how far along it was, is all

i have no sources :(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Akala on June 16, 2010, 10:04:23 PM
3DS looks pretty cool to me. will end up grabbing one. nintendo won the show.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
right now their strategy seems to be a jive-talkin' black kid
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Purple Filth on June 16, 2010, 10:12:37 PM
Ehh, the PSP2 is not much of a secret at this point.

i didn't know how far along it was, is all

i have no sources :(

Sources don't really matter at this stage anyways. What's finalized hardware today could change tomorrow and no one knows what Sony's internal strategy with the device will be.

The PSP2 skipping out on an E3 showing does send a very strong message though. I'm hoping for a massive TGS showing once Sony has reorganized a proper response to the 3DS.

the 3ds reveal has made that strategy thinking harder imo.

We'll see if TGS will be the place to reveal what the are doing with the handheld market.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Diunx on June 16, 2010, 10:21:13 PM
A lot more? Can Sony really do that again? Are they going to release ANOTHER 300 dollar handheld?

The PSP have sold like 50 million units, its not on the DS level but its still pretty fucking good, I don't get all this doom and gloom talk about the PSP on the internet.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on June 16, 2010, 10:21:43 PM
i always believed in competition but this time i don't feel like we need another psp for that.

one handheld future...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2010, 10:22:27 PM
i just want:

- a big screen, screw all this microsized bullshit, make it the size of a dell streak

- TWO TWO TWO GODDAMNIT TWO NOT ONE NOT THREE TWO analog slidernubwhatevers, IN A PROPER PLACEMENT

- they can have a touch screen, i don't really care but that's what all the kids these days seem to dig so whatever

- Camera, not really going to sulk if it's not there but i just think augmented games are kind of neat

- a decent online experience

that's about it

nintendo has the 3D gimmick covered, iphone has bite-sized gaming covered, give me a full-blown console i can stick in my pocket because, really, that's about the only market they have left to appeal to
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 16, 2010, 10:36:59 PM
Ehh, the PSP2 is not much of a secret at this point.

i didn't know how far along it was, is all

i have no sources :(

You have us!

I know plenty of people in the industry, but it's really not worth getting excited over this stuff too far in advance. Anything can and will change, right up to the point where they're ready for an official announcement.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Purple Filth on June 16, 2010, 10:41:50 PM
Ehh, the PSP2 is not much of a secret at this point.

i didn't know how far along it was, is all

i have no sources :(

You have us!

I know plenty of people in the industry, but it's really not worth getting excited over this stuff too far in advance. Anything can and will change, right up to the point where they're ready for an official announcement.

is there any psp2 dev kits out though?.


A lot more? Can Sony really do that again? Are they going to release ANOTHER 300 dollar handheld?

The PSP have sold like 50 million units, its not on the DS level but its still pretty fucking good, I don't get all this doom and gloom talk about the PSP on the internet.

because it more about software an how its not selling much (except for Japan) and also the PSP has stalled in the US and possibly Europe as well.


Then it has now gotten worse since the 3ds is getting the third parties now hell the 3ds is seemingly getting more than the wii ever got :lol

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on June 16, 2010, 11:10:37 PM
i can see psp2 adding phone functionality + 3d.

only way to counter back at nintendo and apple.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Rman on June 16, 2010, 11:17:28 PM
I wonder if they'll put their OLED tech in the PSP2? Gonna' make the iPhone's screen look prehistoric :teehee (hyperbole)
The Zune HD uses an OLED screen.  It's really nice, but IPS panels, though not as nice, are pretty decent.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on June 16, 2010, 11:56:52 PM
i can see psp2 adding phone functionality + 3d.
only way to counter back at nintendo and apple.
No that's probably too much.  It'd be too expensive and it's battery life would be horrible if it's still going to be the most powerful handheld.

Just as far as functionality goes, I guess it could work if they kept it the same size as current PSP's but with a touchscreen for the phone functions.

But why would PSP2 have to be drastically more powerful anyways?  Wouldn't it be better if the same game could be ported between it and the 3DS (assuming that it has a touchscreen)?  They could just basically make PSP2 a slightly more powerful iPhone with a couple analog nubs, a d-pad, and some face and shoulder buttons.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 17, 2010, 12:00:15 AM
A lot more? Can Sony really do that again? Are they going to release ANOTHER 300 dollar handheld?

Uh, if Nintendo (who are never great at graphic tech) can do DC-PS2 level tech with FANCY 3D LCD for $200-250, what makes you think PSP2 couldn't have a videocard that blows them away for $250?
I mean the ipod touch has better tech than the 3DS and is that price range plus does other stuff.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony released a PSP2 for around the same price as 3DS that has toned down PS3/X360 graphics and great integration online like XBLA/PSN.


System would still get steamrolled by 3DS, but they can do it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on June 17, 2010, 01:05:52 AM
Is MGS peace walker for "unlocked" psps?  How long do those psps last while unlocked?

you mean hacked psps?
I think he's talking about 333mhz mode.

Yeah the 333hz mode.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 01:12:27 AM
In terms of graphical performance, Nintendo killed equivalent hardware from their competitors up until last gen.  Even then, the Cube was 2nd only to the Xbox and not that far behind.  Although it's been awhile, Nintendo can clearly do good graphics when that is their focus.  

Also, battery life is probably the biggest concern when it comes to increasing the performance of handhelds.  It wouldn't be surprising to see 2x or more power from the PSP2 but how is Sony going to make it run for more than 2 hrs?  Even with the PSP-GO, Sony wasn't able to solve that problem.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 17, 2010, 01:17:52 AM
Everything I've read about the 3ds sounds great. I just wonder about the battery life and price.

Lots of gameplay possibilities. I'd like to see a non-port/non-rail flying game. omg shit flying past you as you navigate through a dog fight  :o
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 01:23:40 AM
Yeah, only way I can see N screwing this up is if their device costs more than Sony's.  Even if Sony answered with 3D, they'll just be seen as reactionary copycats, just like when they came up with the SixAxis at the last minute. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Rman on June 17, 2010, 01:24:40 AM
Nintendo has always been price conscious.  This thing won't be more than 250.  I expect 229 tops.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 17, 2010, 01:25:25 AM
$199, XL drops to $99.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Rman on June 17, 2010, 01:29:19 AM
In terms of graphical performance, Nintendo killed equivalent hardware from their competitors up until last gen.  Even then, the Cube was 2nd only to the Xbox and not that far behind.  Although it's been awhile, Nintendo can clearly do good graphics when that is their focus.  

Also, battery life is probably the biggest concern when it comes to increasing the performance of handhelds.  It wouldn't be surprising to see 2x or more power from the PSP2 but how is Sony going to make it run for more than 2 hrs?  Even with the PSP-GO, Sony wasn't able to solve that problem.  
Nintendo has always been cutting edge with graphics tech up until the Wii.  The N64 was hamstrung by cartridge media and lack of VRAM, which gave it that blurry vaseline look.  But they sure hyped the crap of "Project Reality" and its VR like graphics.  The final product was a mixed bag, due to the issues mentioned above.  SNES supported tons of colors at the time, though the CPU was a bit slow, and the Gamecube wasn't a slouch either at its release.

Wii and DS is when they just became disappointing.  I think everyone is still shocked at the 3DS because it seemed that Nintendo was going to go the budget route in the graphics tech department for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 17, 2010, 01:31:23 AM
They already said battery life would be comparable to the DSi, so around 10 hours depending on brightness.  DSi had worse battery life compared to the DS Lite but it was still good.  And Just about the PSP battery life, I believe the Go battery life is actually less than the 3000.

As for the price of the thing, I'm thinking whatever they charge, it will include a game or some software in the box.  iirc they have been including software with their systems since the DS launch.  Wii had wii sports, new wiis have WSR, DS had metroid prime first hunt, my DSi came with free points to download games, and the DSXL was supposed to come with brain age or something like that.

Rman is spot on for why the 3DS is a surprise.  Only disappointing thing I think is the screen resolution.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 01:40:09 AM
In terms of graphical performance, Nintendo killed equivalent hardware from their competitors up until last gen.  Even then, the Cube was 2nd only to the Xbox and not that far behind.  Although it's been awhile, Nintendo can clearly do good graphics when that is their focus.  

Also, battery life is probably the biggest concern when it comes to increasing the performance of handhelds.  It wouldn't be surprising to see 2x or more power from the PSP2 but how is Sony going to make it run for more than 2 hrs?  Even with the PSP-GO, Sony wasn't able to solve that problem.  
Nintendo has always been cutting edge with graphics tech up until the Wii.  The N64 was hamstrung by cartridge media and lack of VRAM, which gave it that blurry vaseline look.  But they sure hyped the crap of "Project Reality" and its VR like graphics.  The final product was a mixed bag, due to the issues mentioned above.  SNES supported tons of colors at the time, though the CPU was a bit slow, and the Gamecube wasn't a slouch either at its release.

Wii and DS is when they just became disappointing.  I think everyone is still shocked at the 3DS because it seemed that Nintendo was going to go the budget route in the graphics tech department for the foreseeable future.

N64 would have been amazing for the time if not for the crap storage system and lack of ram.  Even then, Mario 64 and Waverace were pretty amazing at launch.  There were also some pretty impressive looking games when Nintendo finally released the ram pack. Rogue Squadron, with the ram pack, had almost 3DFX graphics. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 17, 2010, 01:52:20 AM
Nintendo has always been price conscious.  This thing won't be more than 250.  I expect 229 tops.

Agreed, but it will be that price until the stars fall from the sky.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 17, 2010, 03:17:14 AM
Also, battery life is probably the biggest concern when it comes to increasing the performance of handhelds.  It wouldn't be surprising to see 2x or more power from the PSP2 but how is Sony going to make it run for more than 2 hrs?  Even with the PSP-GO, Sony wasn't able to solve that problem.  

I know you're exaggerating a bit, but PSP is pretty good now in battery length.  I get 6 hours on my psp doing gaming these days, max brightness, 75%+ sound.  It helps that all the latest games install on the memory stick and run off that to save battery life.

My dslite gets about 2 hours per charge these days :\  Non-replaceable batteries FTMFL
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2010, 03:32:27 AM
nintendo has said the battery life will be on par with ds xl
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2010, 03:37:58 AM
A lot more? Can Sony really do that again? Are they going to release ANOTHER 300 dollar handheld?

Uh, if Nintendo (who are never great at graphic tech)

is your memory really that short term? :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 17, 2010, 05:00:59 AM
Sup dudebros

OK so here are my impressions, like they are worth anything

-Hardware FEELS like a DS. I checked the back of the unit and there's a DS card slot. Also an SD card slot on the left. Earphone jack dead center of the unit, not recessed.

-Viewing angle is very limited. You've got to have it lined up with your nose and from maybe a foot to two feet away/arm's length. If you wiggle it while pressing buttons frantically the 3D effect might disappear. There appeared to be a little bit of ghosting (seeing the left image on the right eye) but nothing too distracting.

-The 3D effect is very solid. I knew they were doing the every-other-line refracting technique but it is much better than the cell phones it was in before. There's no weird vertical lines that appear like the Sharp cell phone, it looks like a 400x240 display that is magically in 3D. I talked to some dudes who said it was better than PSP but not as good as PSP2.

-I set the 3D effect slider to max. However, this made my boss want to throw up so he had to basically put it into 2D mode each time. :lol

-Overall graphics are probably PSP level. There's texture filtering now but no FSAA so edges are very pronounced. To be honest it shouldn't be hard to make nice looking graphics on a 400x240 perceived display (actually 800x240) in this day and age. The best looking stuff were noninteractive so I am sure they were throwing all the polys and textures into the characters, and that's not representative of what actual running games will be like.

OK here are some game impressions

-3D Challenge. It's like the eye doctor's office where you wear the dorky 3D glasses and they test your depth perception. Cool presentation style though.

-Nintendogs and Cats. You couldn't play with the cats so I got pissed off. This is beyond cute and makes me want to vomit. I said "Oh man, this is better than real puppies, with these if you don't feed them you don't have to bury them in the back yard" and the girl doing the demo looked at me in a really weird way.

-Resident EVil. Holy fucking shit this looks good. Like they downrezzed the PS3/360 models to the 3DS. Then again, there was nothing else on screen except for the characters.

-Metal Gear: The Naked Mans. Or whatever. This was awesome, polygon-heavy noninteractive scenes with snakes jumping out at you. Cool camera moves through a jungle. Analog pad wasn't bad.

-Dynasty Warriors: Ugh this was awful, barely a step above the DS ones. But it was playable.

-Kingdom Hearts: Nonplayable, but demo of some guy jumping around the island from the original Kingdom Hearts game. Looked on par with the PS2 one.

-3D Camera: THIS IS AWESOME. Live 3D preview and awesome looking 3D pics. I was like "Can I take movies too so I can dress up as a Na'vi and make my own Avatar pr0n" and the Nintendo guy was like "uuuuuuuuhhhhhhh"

-Sims: Some lame character creation mode, whatever

-Mario Kart: Nonplayable, just some footage of it running. Running code, not a movie. Looked okay.

-Kid Icarus: What you saw at the conference but in 3D, duh

-RIIIIIIIIIDGE RACERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Halfway between Ridge DS and PSP.

All in all it was cool. I got fasttracked into the VIP line because my boss knows someone and it was worth the 30-minute wait but probably not 5 hours. I would probably buy one for $150 if there was good shit at launch.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on June 17, 2010, 05:36:55 AM
That is like saying the GBA to GBA SP was a whole new system because of what it looks like physically.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on June 17, 2010, 05:53:29 AM
Borys, the only thing that's similar between the 3DS and the old DS is the clamshell design and some of the button placement.  The screen, processors, cameras, etc are all fucking different/improved.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2010, 06:04:09 AM
Told you all this is not a "new" Nintendo handheld but more like next iteration of DS after DSi and DS XL. They upped the ARM CPU in that bitch probably but left all else the same.

Still the 3D effect will probably make this handheld. Sales will be humongous.

I'm going to post videos to display why this is a stupid post and factually incorrect statement.

[youtube=560,345]29sF6tfWf2s[/youtube]

And here's an actual ds game:

[youtube=560,345]TvF0p0x_0VI[/youtube]

People who say what Borys said have never played a ds. This is a totally new system.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 17, 2010, 06:09:19 AM
Told you all this is not a "new" Nintendo handheld but more like next iteration of DS after DSi and DS XL. They upped the ARM CPU in that bitch probably but left all else the same.

Still the 3D effect will probably make this handheld. Sales will be humongous.

whats new:

-analog slider
-wireless standard N with WPA2 (makes for much better wireless speed and security)
-bigger screens and higher res
-3D effect
-better audio
-graphics improvement is obvious (unknown how much)
-able to play 3D movies
-better camera with 3D pictures


it is more than just another DS iteration.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2010, 06:10:44 AM
I just realized the DS screens are 256x192. Wow that's so low res. It's not true that Nintendo basically took the same touchscreen for 3DS; it's a new screen, 320x240. Not super impressive but obviously a step-up.

So Nintendo DS is

256x192
256x192

Nintendo 3DS is

400x240 (3D)
320x240

Isn't the bottom screen the same size as ds xl screen?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 17, 2010, 06:26:38 AM
Well they skimped on Wii and DS. With all the money they made on those two products they could easily add a fucking gold bar for free to each 3DS sold.

what they could actually do is to set a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 17, 2010, 06:35:53 AM
199 please
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Raban on June 17, 2010, 07:20:57 AM
I just love how sure the both of you are. What if it's $150? Or worse, $300? :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: originalz on June 17, 2010, 07:30:37 AM
How the hell are they going to let you install games?  I guess they want to remove that incentive for piracy, but there's gotta be some safeguards to stop people from selling them the second they get installed.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 17, 2010, 07:35:00 AM
I say $299,just for fun.



Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2010, 07:47:05 AM
No way Nintendo would charge more than 200 for a handheld, especially to the successor of their biggest platform. Nintendo has always had a 150-200 price range model philosophy. Wii was 250 only because it was new tech, motion controls and shit, and included free software.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Raban on June 17, 2010, 07:49:47 AM
Anything higher than $200 is bad it seems, but anything less than $199 is a fucking MEGATON. I'll suicide if it's higher than $200

If 3DS is $149... that would be fucking ridiculous. But yeah can't imagine that. Would be kind of dumb too, 3DS will sell 10 million within weeks at $199

It would sell 10 million in a weekend at $150, I bet.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Raban on June 17, 2010, 07:54:23 AM
Eh, 3D imo is always shit no matter where it is. It's gimmicky, ineffective and actually prevents me from feeling immersed in a film, because the effect is severely distracting.

If I ever get a 3DS, the switch will be firmly planted in the off position at all times.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 17, 2010, 07:56:09 AM
Nintendo has been slowly pushing DS price towards $200.

If i had to bet,I would say $249...Wii launch price


But now something else,home console 3D related...

Quote
EA has revealed that its 3D games on major home consoles may get a premium pricetag in future.

The publisher revealed this week that its own Crysis 2 - released on the EA Partners label - will be playable in full 3D later this year.

Speaking at an E3 executives breakfast event this morning, EA CEO John Riccitiello said:

"3D may well be one of the next and most important drivers for growth. [That's] yet to be seen and I don't think it's a 2010 story in any way, shape or form... in a meaningful way.

"But as we move through 2011, 2012, its likely to be an opportunity both for additional growth and perhaps premium pricing for titles that better support 3D."

Will Nintendo try to hike the price?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 17, 2010, 08:16:17 AM
One more thing,DS launch price was low because they where not sure will it work or not.

In 2005 there was a period when DS was selling so bad that Nintendo didn't allow NPD to release standalone data,only bundled with GBA :lol

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: archie4208 on June 17, 2010, 08:22:52 AM
The DS sold like shit from the time that the PSP launched until Nintendo Dogs came out.  We're talking like sub 50k/month.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 17, 2010, 08:23:45 AM
I don't think DS was ever selling poorly

Oh it was,DS Lite catapulted it along with some games
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 17, 2010, 08:33:04 AM
ds fat sold bad, than the ds lite came out and the rest is history
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 17, 2010, 08:33:50 AM
Nintendo has been slowly pushing DS price towards $200.

If i had to bet,I would say $249...Wii launch price


But now something else,home console 3D related...

Quote
EA has revealed that its 3D games on major home consoles may get a premium pricetag in future.

The publisher revealed this week that its own Crysis 2 - released on the EA Partners label - will be playable in full 3D later this year.

Speaking at an E3 executives breakfast event this morning, EA CEO John Riccitiello said:

"3D may well be one of the next and most important drivers for growth. [That's] yet to be seen and I don't think it's a 2010 story in any way, shape or form... in a meaningful way.

"But as we move through 2011, 2012, its likely to be an opportunity both for additional growth and perhaps premium pricing for titles that better support 3D."

Will Nintendo try to hike the price?

i'm just gonna go ahead and say for the record that i'm not paying any extra for  console games with 3D support that i can't or won't even use

it's one thing to charge extra for special editions with features or content everyone can use, but to charge extra for 3D support the majority of people can't even use is a bit of extortion
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: tiesto on June 17, 2010, 08:53:16 AM
I highly doubt it's gonna be above $200... I'd bet $180 if anything.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: muckhole on June 17, 2010, 09:37:17 AM

My dslite gets about 2 hours per charge these days :\  Non-replaceable batteries FTMFL

They're totally replaceable. You can grab them from Amazon, or direct from Nintendo themselves.

http://store.nintendo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=108205&currency=USD&catalogId=10001&tranId=0&lastAction=setCurr&storeId=10001&languageId=-1&categoryId=62209&ddkey=http:SetCurrencyPreference (http://store.nintendo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=108205&currency=USD&catalogId=10001&tranId=0&lastAction=setCurr&storeId=10001&languageId=-1&categoryId=62209&ddkey=http:SetCurrencyPreference)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 17, 2010, 09:38:37 AM
It is impossible for the 3DS to be over $200. It would be an incredibly sharp contrast to their entire portable pricing structure for the past 20+ years.

Launch Prices in the US:
Game Boy - $89.95
Game Boy Pocket - $89.95
Game Boy Color - $79.99
Game Boy Advance - $89.95
Game Boy Advance SP - $99.99
Game Boy Micro - $99.99
Nintendo DS - $149.99
Nintendo DS Lite - $129.99
Nintendo DSi - $179.99
Nintendo DSi XL - $189.99

i see prices getting higher and higher on that list :smug
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 17, 2010, 10:39:23 AM
Like I said.  $199.  XL drops to $129, DSi to $99.  Don't know if they'll even keep the Lite.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 17, 2010, 12:39:29 PM
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/17/3ds_software_install/

they're talking about the ability to install multiple games on the 3DS so you don't need to swap between game carts

this is getting ridiculous now
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Beezy on June 17, 2010, 01:31:46 PM
:bow handheld of the forever :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 17, 2010, 01:56:17 PM
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/17/3ds_software_install/

they're talking about the ability to install multiple games on the 3DS so you don't need to swap between game carts

this is getting ridiculous now


jesus fucking christ.  Nintendo's pissed.  It's like they're addressing every single criticism from the past 4 years into the 3DS :lol 

I'm just gonna stop reading about the 3DS until the details and specs are 100% true...getting too hyped.  For one thing, there's gotta be a catch to installing multiple games without the need to switch carts. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 17, 2010, 02:40:58 PM
:bow handheld of the forever :bow2

:bow It already looks better than the overrated ds :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: archie4208 on June 17, 2010, 02:43:04 PM
:bow handheld of the forever :bow2

:bow It already looks better than the overrated ds :bow2

:bow THREE SMT games (even though two of them will probably be ports) :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Beezy on June 17, 2010, 02:44:12 PM
:bow handheld of the forever :bow2

:bow It already looks better than the overrated ds :bow2

:bow THREE SMT games (even though two of them will probably be ports) :bow2
:bow I've never played any besides Strange Journey which I have to get back to :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2010, 02:45:14 PM
This appears to be the best Nintendo product in 20 years.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Beezy on June 17, 2010, 02:46:51 PM
This appears to be the best Nintendo product in 20 years.
:bow SNES :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Raban on June 17, 2010, 02:47:37 PM
I just hope that it's true when people say the current design is still a work in progress. I really don't like the way it looks currently.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 17, 2010, 02:51:32 PM
Wut, no. DSi XL is fucking huge, 4.2 inch. Original DS bottom screen is 3 inches. Nintendo 3DS bottom screen is 3.02 inches.


whats new:

-analog slider
-wireless standard N with WPA2 (makes for much better wireless speed and security)
-bigger screens and higher res
-3D effect
-better audio
-graphics improvement is obvious (unknown how much)
-able to play 3D movies
-better camera with 3D pictures

Plus it has a gyro, for rotation, AND motion sensing, which does movement. It basically has Wii MotionPlus built-in.

According to Nikkei, you can install games on it too. Not confirmed yet but Nikkei is reliable.

3DS is fucking packed with features, jesus. Crazy shit.

In one of the Nitendogs previews they mentioned the front camera can recognize the users, and if you push your face towards the screen the puppy will react by licking your face - so it sees to have some sub-natal abilites. (maybe DSi could do this too, but now it's standardized)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 17, 2010, 03:02:14 PM
You've never even seen the 3D screen you fool. It doesn't work like anything you've seen

Oh for fucks sake Ruzghey, neither have you
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 17, 2010, 03:08:51 PM
don't confuse him with common sense
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: huckleberry on June 17, 2010, 03:11:26 PM
I really want to see one of these in action.  Looks pretty slick right now though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 03:34:12 PM
i always believed in competition but this time i don't feel like we need another psp for that.

one handheld future...

That's kinda how I feel.  I can't see Sony offering anything that a 3DS owner would want or need.  In 6 yrs, Sony hasn't really shown that they know how portable gaming should be done.  I won't miss Sony's 1st party portable games so I'd rather that 3rd parties just devote their efforts to one platform.   

3DS is definitely the first Nintendo product in a long time that feels like a winner even before it's released.  Let's hope it's not another N64.

Also, battery life is probably the biggest concern when it comes to increasing the performance of handhelds.  It wouldn't be surprising to see 2x or more power from the PSP2 but how is Sony going to make it run for more than 2 hrs?  Even with the PSP-GO, Sony wasn't able to solve that problem. 

I know you're exaggerating a bit, but PSP is pretty good now in battery length.  I get 6 hours on my psp doing gaming these days, max brightness, 75%+ sound.  It helps that all the latest games install on the memory stick and run off that to save battery life.

My dslite gets about 2 hours per charge these days :\  Non-replaceable batteries FTMFL

Are you using an extra capacity battery?  I'm pretty sure I don't get that kinda battery life on my PSP when using max brightness. 

Also, I was talking about the PSP-GO.  I remember Dcharlie or someone saying that the GO's battery only lasts about 3 hrs, which is an issue that can't be resolved by swapping batteries. 

Like you said, non-replaceable batteries FTMFL.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 18, 2010, 01:58:16 PM
http://kotaku.com/5566671/nintendo-testing-healthiness-of-3ds-advising-young-children-to-avoid-3d (http://kotaku.com/5566671/nintendo-testing-healthiness-of-3ds-advising-young-children-to-avoid-3d)

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"We will recommend that very young children not look at 3D images," he said. "That's because, [in] young children, the muscles for the eyes are not fully formed... This is the same messaging that the industry is putting out with 3D movies, so it is a standard protocol.


Now something for us
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Fils-Aime also talked to Kotaku about other elements of the 3DS. He confirmed that the system will be out before the end of March 2011. The 3DS form factor that was shown at E3 should not be considered final, he said, though the company plans to manufacture the extendable stylus shown with the 3DS. He said the company was still determining whether games for the machine would be region-locked, so as to only play, like most console games, in systems sold in certain regions of the world. He noted that downloadable games for the DSi were the first games for Nintendo's DS line to be region-locked.

Child issue is interesting because i'm not sure how parents will be able to stop kids to play it in 3D...unless they will be constantly supervised

Maybe it will have some lock? 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: iconoclast on June 18, 2010, 02:58:33 PM
Region locking is about as anti-consumer as it gets. I wish it would die already.

:bow Sony for kinda getting it right.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2010, 03:41:05 PM
I'm sure it will be region locked like the DSi

Will buy day 1 and buy flashcart day 1
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: bork on June 18, 2010, 04:02:06 PM
I'm sure it will be region locked like the DSi

Will buy day 1 and buy flashcart day 1

If it's region-locked like the DSi, then it just means shitty downloadable games will be locked.  I just want the retail software to be region-free. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2010, 04:04:54 PM
errr, lyte you do know that there are region-locked DSi retail games, right?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: bork on June 18, 2010, 04:15:32 PM
errr, lyte you do know that there are region-locked DSi retail games, right?

There are?  Must be a very small amount.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: bork on June 18, 2010, 04:16:37 PM
If you're so adamant about playing your imported weaboo games then why don't you man up and buy a Japanese system instead of resorting to piracy?

I bought a Japanese DSi.  I don't care about uguu RPG garbage though.  I was in Japan at the time so that's what I went for.  But I will typically just go for the system that comes out first.  If it hits the States first, USA 3DS it is.  If it's Japan first, I will import.

Wish I hadn't bought a DSi at all though, especially a Japanese one since they did lock the DSi store stuff.  Although the one DSi download game I'd actually bother with, Shantae, appears to be vaporware anyway.

DS is easily the least-played Nintendo system that I've ever owned.  I never touch it.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 18, 2010, 04:40:29 PM
as i already said in this thread,regional lock might not be a problem for you guys but if you are european you are buttfucked
there is a reason piracy is huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge here

the only thing worse than being european is being australian
did you know mario galaxy 2 has still to release in australia? :lol
they delayed it to july
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: demi on June 18, 2010, 04:47:24 PM
Magos doesnt own any legit games, btw
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on June 18, 2010, 04:54:54 PM
ehy that's not true!
i bought yoshi touch & go out of a play-asia special offer before getting a flashcard :smug
didn't spend more than 10 euro
if the DS was regional locked i would have been buttfucked

slime - yes it's true,i can be patient but why should i be when there is a quicker alternative to it?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 05:05:16 PM
:bow Slime buying games to make up for EB's sins :bow2

(http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/2010/165/nin3ds_02_67257_screen.jpg)

I'm still 100% sold on the 3DS but I really wish that what's shown at E3 isn't a final design.  The current design just has zero panache.  Apple products and even the PSP completely trump it in sleekness and elegance. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Raban on June 18, 2010, 05:07:29 PM
Remember the first NDS? No, I mean the first one.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/21mhwkp.jpg)
It's come a long way, and I'm positive this will too.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2010, 05:25:49 PM
If you're so adamant about playing your imported weaboo games then why don't you man up and buy a Japanese system instead of resorting to piracy?

I meant for BUYING import games and then playing them on flashcart.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on June 18, 2010, 05:43:33 PM
Yeah, he owes it to the developers.  Somebody had to be paid to region-lock it you know.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 05:44:41 PM
With all the gaming crap that Bebpo bought over the years, he's earned the right to pirate every now and then, imo. :patel
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: demi on June 18, 2010, 05:47:27 PM
fucking pirates.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 05:49:14 PM
fucking pirates.

:lol

You just borrow, right?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2010, 05:50:50 PM
demi uses gamefly for all his x360/psp/ds/wii gaming
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 05:52:32 PM
But he downloads PSP and DS stuff as well.  Probably PC too, out of spite. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2010, 05:54:24 PM
:bow slime
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 05:57:43 PM
I'd have liked to hack in larger media file support for external drives with the 360 & PS3.  It'd have saved me $130 that I used to buy a media player.  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2010, 05:58:10 PM
meh, slime wins the argument
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2010, 06:07:48 PM
is there an actual reason to make games in different regions for the device? I could see for TVs because PAL is like 50hz or euro shit like that, but it shouldn't matter with handhelds.

that was probably a dumb question
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 06:17:28 PM
I don't have a DS flash cart but I occasionally get PSP games from the internet store, which I never play for more than 10 mins.  Is that bad?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 06:24:00 PM
Fine, I'll sell my PSPs then.  Just felt bad having one around and never using it for more than reading EB in the toilet. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Diunx on June 18, 2010, 06:40:14 PM
Use it to play Peace Walker in the toilet :bow2
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: demi on June 18, 2010, 06:55:08 PM
what's wrong with giving hacking sites advertising money?  That just encourages them to keep hacking and make the systems more open.


twilight hack twizzers team HATES piracy. believe it or not majority of hackers do it for knowledge. it is the pirates who ruin it.

Dark Alex even stopped
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on June 18, 2010, 08:06:48 PM
Region locking is stupid.  Even i would pirate out of spite.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: demi on June 18, 2010, 08:07:07 PM
Stop living in a loser country
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on June 18, 2010, 08:13:23 PM
bububu...  I got nothing.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2010, 08:13:39 PM
Remember the first NDS? No, I mean the first one.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/21mhwkp.jpg)
It's come a long way, and I'm positive this will too.
:yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: SantaC on June 18, 2010, 08:58:06 PM
:bow Slime buying games to make up for EB's sins :bow2

(http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/2010/165/nin3ds_02_67257_screen.jpg)

I'm still 100% sold on the 3DS but I really wish that what's shown at E3 isn't a final design.  The current design just has zero panache.  Apple products and even the PSP completely trump it in sleekness and elegance. 

it is not a final design
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: originalz on June 18, 2010, 09:27:47 PM
Eh, if the 3DS is region locked, I'll buy an American system at launch and wait for revision 2 to buy a Japanese system.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2010, 09:41:16 PM
Yeah, I think I'll just do that.  Sounds like a good plan.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2010, 10:58:10 PM
I think the design is quite nice for the most part.  Just get rid of the shiny background and replace it with the same matte as the DSi and move around the four buttons on the bottom.  It's weird that the power button is where start/select are on the DSi.
 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 18, 2010, 11:36:11 PM
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Update: According to analyst Michael Pachter, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime told him that it costs “a lot more” to make a 3DS than a DSi and that Nintendo doesn’t intend to lose money on the hardware.

There were two pieces of information Nintendo failed to mention about the 3DS at E3: A date and price. It’ll probably be a few months before we hear about either of those two details, but Nintendo president Satoru Iwata provided a hint regarding how much the handheld will cost. Because of the system’s graphical enhancements over the DS, new camera, features, and improvement in overall technology, it seems logical to assume that the 3DS will be priced more heavily than past Nintendo portables. According to Iwata, it’ll cost more than the current DS, which probably means it’ll set consumers back at least $200.

“I have to refrain from talking specifically about the price point. What I can confirm is that, in terms of the production costs, it will cost more than the costs for the Nintendo DS today. Having said that, we believe we will produce enough value worthy of the production cost. We do not think we have to sell the products below cost.”

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/43089/ (http://www.nintendoeverything.com/43089/)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Raban on June 18, 2010, 11:43:11 PM
If you think about it, if the 3DS is $200, how stupid is it that both home console and handheld cost the same? I thought it was ridiculous when the PSPgo was just $50 shy of the PS3, but the 3DS seems like it'll cost as much as the Wii. How ridiculous.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 18, 2010, 11:45:35 PM
It's not ridiculous for the handheld, it IS for the Wii, though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Raban on June 18, 2010, 11:46:37 PM
It's not ridiculous for the handheld, it IS for the Wii, though.

You really think it's okay to pay $200 for a portable video game system?

EDIT: Oh I see what you did there
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 11:51:12 PM
Slime is such a disgusting corporate whore. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: naff on June 18, 2010, 11:53:27 PM
meh, slime wins the argument

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to win any argument and I apologize for my doggedness. What you do is your business and no one should think any less or more of you. The only thing I was trying to do is for you to see just how gray the choice of downloading roms are even if you are buying the original carts. At the end of the day it's just silly ass video games that don't mean much and I personally don't gain anything from your actions so fuck what I think.

Hell, I should be praising you for actually importing the carts even if you are going through more convenient methods of bypassing the region lock. Hardly no one does that and that alone is commendable.

I agree, that is highly commendable. I personally don't understand this gray area you speak of Slime. If you own the cart but can't play it how is it questionable to download it in order to play (rhetorical, I read your explanation)? Fuck buying another console from another region. I guess I'm a sack of shit and would have no qualms ripping something unavailable in my country. If they don't want to distribute it in my country fine, but don't expect me to pay for it to alleviate my conscience :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Raban on June 18, 2010, 11:59:36 PM
I'm sorry, but when I pirate games that aren't available in my region, the developer chose not to port it over thus rejecting the potential profit market where they didn't release it. They obviously didn't want my money in the first place, why should I give it to them out of good conscience?

I rarely pirate games, btw, but that's just the way I see it. The game developer accepted the loss before I even downloaded the game.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: naff on June 19, 2010, 12:11:45 AM
Yeah, I think I'll just do that.  Sounds like a good plan.

Man, that just sounds ridiculous to me. I can't understand wanting to support region locking. Lamest shit ever.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2010, 12:16:12 AM
$250, calling it now

*bookmarked for self-smh if wrong*
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Raban on June 19, 2010, 12:20:53 AM
$250, calling it now

*bookmarked for self-smh if wrong*

The 3DS costing $250 would be more smh-worthy than your prediction being wrong, lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Beezy on June 19, 2010, 12:22:13 AM
$250, calling it now

*bookmarked for self-smh if wrong*
Is that cheaper than what it takes to get 3D on your TV or PC with shitty glasses?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2010, 12:24:21 AM
yes for all, i think
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2010, 12:27:11 AM
It's not ridiculous for the handheld, it IS for the Wii, though.

I bet you wii will cost 150 by the time zelda comes out.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Vizzys on June 19, 2010, 12:28:37 AM
this is nintendo, it will be overpriced and still sell bazillions
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 19, 2010, 12:30:32 AM
I'd wager $199 to be honest.  Maaaaybe $229, but I guess I wouldn't really be surprised if it was 250.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Raban on June 19, 2010, 12:32:46 AM
If it's $199, I may bite on launch, if it's $150 I'm there Day 1. Anything more than that I'm waiting for the price drop/revision.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Purple Filth on June 19, 2010, 12:49:04 AM
If it's $199, I may bite on launch, if it's $150 I'm there Day 1. Anything more than that I'm waiting for the price drop/revision.

I can see 200 but not 150.

It may come in at DSi launch price of 170.


If it does come at 150 i would definitely check it out
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 19, 2010, 01:04:13 AM
I'm more interested in the price of the software.  DS software still goes as high as $40 for Nintendo games, even though generally games are $30.  Some PSP games sold for $50 when it launched and now it is down to $40 for new releases.  I wonder if they're going to drop the price of DS games or charge more for the 3DS games, at least initially.

The only thing I have to say about the hardware is that the DS XL was $190 when it released and with maybe one exception, every new Nintendo hardware releases included some software or way to get software for free in the box.  Maybe something like a preinstalled Animal Crossing on the 3DS making it seem like a better value at a higher price.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TripleA on June 19, 2010, 01:23:58 AM
I hope it's not too expensive
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 21, 2010, 03:07:06 AM
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/20/heres-every-3ds-screenshot-released-so-far/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/20/heres-every-3ds-screenshot-released-so-far/)
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Third on June 21, 2010, 06:10:19 AM
So many games* already.

*ports/remakes
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Third on June 21, 2010, 06:17:14 AM
Maybe.

I'll be getting one on day 1. The nfag in me is still too strong when it comes to new Nintendo hardware.  :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Shino on June 21, 2010, 12:01:55 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/20/heres-every-3ds-screenshot-released-so-far/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/20/heres-every-3ds-screenshot-released-so-far/)

ridge racer looks awful, namco isn't even trying

Honestly... not many were trying very hard.
The 3D didn't look good on many of the games that were on display.
Of the ones I saw... Pilotwings looked good, Dead or Alive had a nice look to the video they showed, and the movie trailer for How to Train Your Dragon looked really good.
Other than that... Metal Gear and Resident Evil looked pretty bad.  Even Kid Icarus didn't look very good.

Professor Layton looked pretty cool too though.

This is just the 3D effects on it though.  Overall the visuals are much improved and I will still get one, even if I do play most ofthe games in 2D
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 21, 2010, 04:47:17 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/06/3dsdoa3d02ss02e3.jpg)

Fingers, not webbed hands, on a Nintendo portable.  Is that a first?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 22, 2010, 12:24:40 AM
[youtube=560,345]DqIpy8Wq06U[/youtube]

video of the Resident Evil tech demo shown at E3

also confirmed to be using MT Framework
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on June 22, 2010, 03:57:41 AM
If that is real-time then :hyper

It looks like 3DS has a decent amount of memory too...

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 22, 2010, 04:01:40 AM
If that is real-time then :hyper

It looks like 3DS has a decent amount of memory too...



I saw this running live on the hardware and I'm pretty sure it was realtime. The movie stuff was washed out and had some compression issues. This looked just lovely though.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on June 22, 2010, 04:22:48 AM
I'm getting at launch. First gen hardware is always the easiest to hack.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on June 22, 2010, 04:23:57 AM
I don't know if it plays like the recent resident evils, as opposed to like Dead Space Extraction, but it actually looks better than RE4 I think.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 22, 2010, 09:31:07 AM
...but it's been confirmed to be real-time  :lol

It doesn't mean that's IN-GAME, though.  The actual gameplay will looks significantly less impressive than that, but for cinema scenes, it'll look like that.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 22, 2010, 11:15:46 AM
Realtime doesn't mean that is how the game will look when you play it.  There are very few things on screen, and despite the impressive lighting, look at things like Chris' thumb or Jill's fingers or the textures on Chris' outfit.  It's still impressive, but it isn't like it is RE5 quality.  The lighting is really the most impressive part about it, otherwise it seems worse than RE4.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 22, 2010, 11:25:35 AM
fine, so just to be clear, you don't believe it is running on 3DS hardware? is that it?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on June 22, 2010, 11:28:25 AM
You're not making any sense dude.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 22, 2010, 11:37:29 AM
(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/16/fuckneehe.gif)

Clearly one of us is confused here.  You say it's not real time, but capcom says it is real time, everyone who played it at the show says it was real time.  we are saying it isn't how the game will look when it is a game and not a tech demo.  I don't get what is going on anymore.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 22, 2010, 11:38:36 AM
I played that shit, and it was running in realtime.  :miyamoto

It was still two characters on a simple background, it's not like the final game will look like that
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 22, 2010, 07:10:52 PM
Ruzbeh is a dumbdumb confirmed
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 22, 2010, 08:11:01 PM
reality: 1
asperger's: 0
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Diunx on June 22, 2010, 09:21:04 PM
Guys, the first metal gear solid 4 video was real time too, just saying.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 23, 2010, 06:33:16 PM
Nice impressions.

also, the PSP2 is real?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on June 26, 2010, 06:48:16 AM
Warren Spector gushes over the 3ds:

http://junctionpoint.wordpress.com/

Quote
Nintendo got 3D right – righter than anyone else. Ever. By far. Think about the 3DS – just the basics:

» No glasses required!
» No image degradation or color saturation loss compared with 2D displays!
» Parallax control so viewers can adjust the images so the 3D effect is perfect for them, not for some average person with an average distance of 2.5 inches between his/her eyes.
But that’s just based on the basics, as I said. Wait, there’s more. I was backstage at the Nintendo Press Conference on Tuesday, June 15th, and as each new 3DS feature was described, my jaw got closer and closer to the ground. It’s a game machine… it’s 3D… it has a gyroscope and accelerometer built in… It has Wi-Fi connectivity and shares data with other 3DS’s in the background… It has a 3D CAMERA!… and it PLAYS 3D MOVIES WITHOUT GLASSES!… I swear if they’d said it was a phone, too, I would have dashed back onto the stage and snatched the prototype and run like the wind! I half expected to hear it would tuck me in at night!

When I got my hands on the 3DS at the show, I was blown away again. The feature set sounds good but the proof is in the pudding – in the product. And Nintendo’s got some mighty tasty stuff coming. Pilot Wings – incredible. Nintendo Dogs – even cuter than before and more engaging. Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid – gorgeous. Kid Icarus is coming back plus there’s a Mario Kart, plus a new Zelda(!!!!!)! Not a bad set of games to brag about as you’re launching a new piece of hardware. And there was a tech demo, shooting game that was probably my favorite thing of all. The movie trailers were outrageous – best 3D visuals I’ve seen. Tangled looked great and How to Train Your Dragon was a revelation. Both were sharp, clear, convincing. Every title – movie or game – was a hardware-selling brand, each one looked cool and each was genuinely enhanced in some way by the 3D effect.

The 3D effect is basically perfect. I mean PERFECT. And the games and movie trailers shown on 3DS were stunning, enhanced and flat-out cooler than they could possibly have been in 2D. I was on the fence about 3D when I entered the Nintendo booth. By the time I left, I was floored.

I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good – and that’s a good thing. Nintendo deserves to sell a gazillion of these things. And I want the first one off the line!

As a consumer, I’m in. Sign me up. Price no object (or not much of one). As a game developer, well, sign me up for that, too. How do you design a game that really exploits stereoscopic 3D? Beats me… How do we take advantage of a 3D camera built into a gaming device? No idea… How do we integrate gyroscopes and accelerometers into control schemes? Got some ideas but nothing solid… I mean, how could anyone NOT want to play with this tech?

I’ve been hoping something like this would come along since Origin and Looking Glass supported VR headsets in Wings of Glory and System Shock back in the mid-’90s, but I never actually believed it would happen. Well, it’s happened. The Nintendo 3DS changed everything for me.

Please, please, let it be the success it deserves to be. And all you TV manufacturers out there (or Sharp at least), get with the program and let me buy a TV that’s as cool as Nintendo’s little game machine. I know there are issues with view angles on parallax barrier technology, but come on, get cracking, solve the problems and let me give you a bunch of money so I can have my 3D, okay?

I should stop. I know it. But the 3DS is – seriously – the coolest hardware I’ve ever seen at E3… It’s nothing short of magical, both in the effect the stereoscopic stuff had on me and in the way the tech works. Not that I really understand how it works – not yet anyway! The 3DS was – dare I say it? – almost Disney-like in the magical feeling it evoked in me and I suspect you’ll have a similar reaction when you get your hands on it. And note that I said “when,” not “if.” That was no accident. Trust me – you’re gonna want and you’re gonna get a Nintendo 3DS.

Okay. Let me catch my breath. Two more things tomorrow and then I’m outta here and onto other things. (I’m really going to try to keep this blogging thing going from now on!
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 26, 2010, 08:09:09 AM
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I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good –

Maybe for the 3DS, but I still think in 3 or 4 years people who buy the first 3D televisions/glasses are going to be pissed about having wasted all that money.  And a year after 3DS comes out, it will be interesting to see how many people play their games with the 3D slider turned all the way off.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Diunx on June 26, 2010, 10:58:25 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on June 26, 2010, 11:54:50 AM
Quote
I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good –

Maybe for the 3DS, but I still think in 3 or 4 years people who buy the first 3D televisions/glasses are going to be pissed about having wasted all that money.  And a year after 3DS comes out, it will be interesting to see how many people play their games with the 3D slider turned all the way off.

I'm mostly just hoping that 3D catches and they continue to advance the tech, then maybe in a few years when there is a quality TV that lets me watch without glasses, it will finally be worth picking one up.  Maybe then movie theaters can try another gimmick to draw crowds, and the cycle to bring that to the home market can continue again.  Here's hoping I have at least one hologram set in 2018.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 26, 2010, 12:02:48 PM
SMH at you myopic old-minded farts.  I'm gonna be turning the 3D slider way up for my POV pr0n. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Rman on June 26, 2010, 01:23:28 PM
SMH at you myopic old-minded farts.  I'm gonna be turning the 3D slider way up for my POV pr0n. 
Iwata confirmed 3D video chat for 3ds.  Oh the ideas horny teens will have with that.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 26, 2010, 03:06:20 PM
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I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good –

Maybe for the 3DS, but I still think in 3 or 4 years people who buy the first 3D televisions/glasses are going to be pissed about having wasted all that money.  And a year after 3DS comes out, it will be interesting to see how many people play their games with the 3D slider turned all the way off.

I think 3D on 3DS and it's replacement platforms is here to stay. The main obstacle to 3D is the incredible variables in peoples viewing experiences of a screen at any given time - almost none are perfectly aligned in the center to view proper 3D in their $2000 recliner/massager placed for perfect 7.1 sound.

With the 3DS, having a screen at approximately 1/2 arms length in front of you that will always be approximately 1/2 arms length in front of you (with even a toggle switch to tweak it if it isn't working for you).

Actually I do agree with you, I'm not seeing or hearing any gameplay implications from 3d - I don't see that as a reason to turn it off other than eye strain or curmudgeoness.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on July 01, 2010, 06:56:47 AM
Sony started crying already

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Sony wasn't thrilled about Nintendo's E3 2010 press conference where it continually reiterated its "no more glasses" messaging for the 3DS.

During an interview with IGN, president of Sony's Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida responded by saying Nintendo's vision for 3D gaming is similar to theirs and that it shouldn't focus on whether or not glasses are worn.

"I have hope that they have a broader perspective with 3D," Yoshida said. "When you listen to what they are saying about the effect of 3D perspective to the games, they are saying the same message we are, but they don't have to bash some small part of what the other company is doing."

Yoshida later said the industry should advocate 3D development, and that Sony would like to work alongside Nintendo in promoting the new technology.

"I think as an industry we should preach this new perspective, from a very large cinema screen to a small portable, because that helps advancing the games and the game industry," he said. "We'd like to work together to promote 3D."

At the time, Yoshida admitted he hadn't actually played the 3DS yet, but said the glasses technology is improving all the time and that of course they'll be required for movie-like experiences.

"If you really want a big theater experience, of course you have to wear glasses," he said. "With the latest technology, the glasses are light and you kind of forget you're wearing them after awhile."

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1103136p1.html (http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1103136p1.html)
 :rofl
Yeah like Nintendo gives a shit about you and your glasses crap
 :rofl

I wonder what they will say when Nintendo starts real 3DS marketing..."look 3D,no glasses required"
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on July 01, 2010, 09:17:10 AM
microsoft should pimp slap both and just declare that 3D is a silly gimmick
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 01, 2010, 10:57:32 AM
I fully welcome 3D. Maybe it'll reinvigorate the whole First Person RPG genre, which'll make me cream my jeans.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on July 01, 2010, 11:33:49 AM
It's kinda shameful for Sony gloating about 3D when in fact Kutaragi was so far ahead that he was pimping 4D four years ago.

What a downgrade.

Fuck you Sony, bring Ken back!

He saw this and left

(http://i49.tinypic.com/3326qdg.gif)

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on July 01, 2010, 12:39:28 PM
What I found out yesterday is that a single pair of 3D glasses for the Bravia TVs cost as much as Natal.  That is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on July 01, 2010, 01:10:24 PM
It would be funny if Sony actually planned 3D PSP2,but with glasses...they could always say,3D glasses work on everything,3DTV or 3D PSP2,you can play 3D PSP2 games on 3DTVs also,...3D 3D 3D

And then Nintendo comes with 3DS,no glasses required...and Sony is like,waaaat?...we can't release this,we will be ridiculed left and right
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 01:15:06 PM
Plus, and this is a huge plus, current consoles aren't even powerful enough to deliver 3D without making concessions in the graphics.  Look at the gimped Killzone 3 for example.  :yuck  
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 01, 2010, 02:06:50 PM
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Consoles aren't even powerful enough for HD.  :smug
 

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on July 01, 2010, 02:20:36 PM
That will always be a problem...no matter how "powerful" the system is

Unless those extra transistors are rendered useless for "normal" stuff...but then why not use them for normal stuff...but then you will have huge hit when you go 3D...but...going in circles




Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 02:34:40 PM
It wouldn't be the first time that developers lied. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on July 01, 2010, 02:36:08 PM
well, Crysis 2 3D sounds kinda crazy in the sense that they're supporting all sorts of ways to use it including the types of glasses you'd get with Coraline 3D or w/e.

It wouldn't be the first time that developers lied. 

people were making a fuss about how they were claiming to show the 360 demo when it was running on a PC, but I don't know what that was all about.  I don't remember them claiming it was on the 360, people just assumed it was because of the button prompts.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on July 01, 2010, 02:44:55 PM
Crysis 2 renders only one frame with some trickery...people say that it looks good...that just shows that 3D tech is still learning how to walk properly

Game development is all about cheap tricks anyway...so if it looks good...who cares
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 04:11:41 PM
Where's dark1x?  I miss his biased takes. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 02, 2010, 09:23:20 PM
Plus, and this is a huge plus, current consoles aren't even powerful enough to deliver 3D without making concessions in the graphics.  Look at the gimped Killzone 3 for example.  :yuck  


Sub-SD gaming :'(
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on July 02, 2010, 10:28:41 PM
I can't think of one example where having 3D actually mattered to me.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2010, 10:32:59 PM
all i can think of is phoenix wright 3ds.

:drool
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Trent Dole on July 02, 2010, 10:43:14 PM
Sony started crying already

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Sony wasn't thrilled about Nintendo's E3 2010 press conference where it continually reiterated its "no more glasses" messaging for the 3DS.

During an interview with IGN, president of Sony's Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida responded by saying Nintendo's vision for 3D gaming is similar to theirs and that it shouldn't focus on whether or not glasses are worn.

"I have hope that they have a broader perspective with 3D," Yoshida said. "When you listen to what they are saying about the effect of 3D perspective to the games, they are saying the same message we are, but they don't have to bash some small part of what the other company is doing."

Yoshida later said the industry should advocate 3D development, and that Sony would like to work alongside Nintendo in promoting the new technology.

"I think as an industry we should preach this new perspective, from a very large cinema screen to a small portable, because that helps advancing the games and the game industry," he said. "We'd like to work together to promote 3D."

At the time, Yoshida admitted he hadn't actually played the 3DS yet, but said the glasses technology is improving all the time and that of course they'll be required for movie-like experiences.

"If you really want a big theater experience, of course you have to wear glasses," he said. "With the latest technology, the glasses are light and you kind of forget you're wearing them after awhile."

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1103136p1.html (http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1103136p1.html)
 :rofl
Yeah like Nintendo gives a shit about you and your glasses crap
 :rofl

I wonder what they will say when Nintendo starts real 3DS marketing..."look 3D,no glasses required"
:miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto
 :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto
 :miyamoto :miyamoto :miyamoto
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on July 03, 2010, 01:25:52 AM
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Developers working on the system say that if they were developing a 3DS game that didn't use 3D, they could theoretically use the extra processing power for additional texture passes and more complex object and environment geometry, or even up a framerate from 30 frames per second to 60. But there's no benefit to raise a frame rate from 60 to 120 since the LCD displays of the 3DS (as well as the DSi, DS Lite, DS classic, Game Boy Advance…even the PSP) are limited to 60Hz.

Of course, there's also the issue of selling a 3DS game without a 3D effect: publishers would have to deal with the outcry of gamers wondering why their recently purchased game fails to have any depth even when the 3D slider's on at full blast.

It's good to know that is an option.  Hopefully if 3DSware exist and Nintendo has a decent online service this time, games put there don't need to worry about that second part.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Purple Filth on July 03, 2010, 01:48:02 AM
The whole "3ds will be your god" bullshit the nfans are preaching is getting really annoying.

I love nintendo's attempt to address almost all the issues some had with the last handheld.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Himu on July 03, 2010, 01:58:50 AM
The whole "3ds will be your god" bullshit the nfans are preaching is getting really annoying.

I love nintendo's attempt to address almost all the issues some had with the last handheld.

Who cares, looks awesome
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Purple Filth on July 03, 2010, 02:25:42 AM
The whole "3ds will be your god" bullshit the nfans are preaching is getting really annoying.

I love nintendo's attempt to address almost all the issues some had with the last handheld.

Who cares, looks awesome

The machine seems awesome (3d without glasses, can turn it off if you want) and i would check it out.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on July 03, 2010, 05:02:55 AM
The whole "3ds will be your god" bullshit the nfans are preaching is getting really annoying.

I love nintendo's attempt to address almost all the issues some had with the last handheld.
Not surprising.
Ntards are the worst fanboys in existence.

Just like with anything new,3DS will be a lots of smoke and mirrors...until it gets released and people forget about "new shiny device" hype

My prediction...
Some games will do 3D right,majority won't,it will be just something to write on the box...business as usual
Will people actually play with 3D on or off?...that is the question

By play i mean really play in 3D,not something that will be turned off within 10 minutes.

Fine by me,since i just care about games.



Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on July 03, 2010, 12:12:59 PM
I probably just misinterpreted it.  I'm no expect, so calm down.  This part:
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they could theoretically use the extra processing power for additional texture passes and more complex object and environment geometry, or even up a framerate from 30 frames per second to 60.
makes it seem like you can sacrifice 3D for more power.  But I don't know exactly what their solution is and am basing it on my limited idea of how 3D works on PC with Nvidia's solution.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on July 03, 2010, 12:25:30 PM
That's why I mentioned 3DSware (-ware is the XBLA/PSN/appstore for Nintendo).  I wouldn't expect a retail game to require it, but a downloadable game, maybe.  But I guess it would also be silly to think that a downloadable game would require even more power than retail games.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: demi on July 03, 2010, 12:27:58 PM
After the shitfest that is WiiWare and DSiWare are any of you even REMOTELY interested in what GARBAGE Nintendo is gonna stock their shelves with? Let alone the fact you probably wont be able to transfer anything you bought on Wii or DSi? Or 3DS?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on July 03, 2010, 12:31:38 PM
After the shitfest that is WiiWare and DSiWare are any of you even REMOTELY interested in what GARBAGE Nintendo is gonna stock their shelves with? Let alone the fact you probably wont be able to transfer anything you bought on Wii or DSi? Or 3DS?

really, I have limited experience with Wiiware and DSiware.  The only things I have on DSiware are games I bought with the 1000 points it came with (that Wairoware tech demo and pictobits, which is fun).  The reason I don't buy anything on them is because I can't transfer them and Nintendo still doesn't have a proper way to buy games on either.  I'm hopeful that the 3DS lets you have an account and all that.  I mean, it has been half a decade since the 360, so it seems like Nintendo might finally realize this online thing is worthwhile.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: brawndolicious on July 03, 2010, 06:57:44 PM
And here comes the stupid:
http://kotaku.com/5578822/3ds-games-will-look-better-if-they-ditch-the-3d
Isn't that what everybody's been saying?  That they could make a better looking game or run it at a higher framerate if they did it in 2D?

I guess it would make sense to allow developers to choose if they want to use 3D, it wouldn't benefit all most games and it would make it seem like the graphics are aging more slowly.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Lafiel on July 03, 2010, 08:03:10 PM
And here comes the stupid:
http://kotaku.com/5578822/3ds-games-will-look-better-if-they-ditch-the-3d
Isn't that what everybody's been saying?  That they could make a better looking game or run it at a higher framerate if they did it in 2D?

I guess it would make sense to allow developers to choose if they want to use 3D, it wouldn't benefit all most games and it would make it seem like the graphics are aging more slowly.
Yeah, i think resident evil on the 3DS is suppose to push more effects and look better if you turn 3D off completely.


Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 03, 2010, 11:25:56 PM
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I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good –

Maybe for the 3DS, but I still think in 3 or 4 years people who buy the first 3D televisions/glasses are going to be pissed about having wasted all that money. 

I seriously doubt that, given how fast Hollywood is moving on 3D. There will always be the shitty rush jobs that don't utilize 3D correctly - and granted, even those will be popular with many folks - but as time goes by more films will be utilizing it correctly. Most recently Avatar and How To Train Your Dragon come to mind, but that's just the beginning.

I'm certainly no fan of 3D, but the market looks pretty damn strong. It came at the exact right moment too, with HDTVs on the verge of hitting their saturation point.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TripleA on July 04, 2010, 10:33:53 PM
It's kinda shameful for Sony gloating about 3D when in fact Kutaragi was so far ahead that he was pimping 4D four years ago.

What a downgrade.

Fuck you Sony, bring Ken back!

You know the funny thing with your comment is, according to John Vignocchi of Disney Interactive, the 3D effect on Ps3 is achieved by rendering games @120fps, 1080p resolution.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Dickie Dee on July 04, 2010, 11:07:11 PM
that really isn't a funny thing about his comment
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 04, 2010, 11:26:34 PM
Quote
I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good –

Maybe for the 3DS, but I still think in 3 or 4 years people who buy the first 3D televisions/glasses are going to be pissed about having wasted all that money. 

I seriously doubt that, given how fast Hollywood is moving on 3D. There will always be the shitty rush jobs that don't utilize 3D correctly - and granted, even those will be popular with many folks - but as time goes by more films will be utilizing it correctly. Most recently Avatar and How To Train Your Dragon come to mind, but that's just the beginning.

I'm certainly no fan of 3D, but the market looks pretty damn strong. It came at the exact right moment too, with HDTVs on the verge of hitting their saturation point.

it's a novelty which will quickly wear off as people get tired of paying the 3D surcharge at theaters

as for television, i don't think all the people who bought hdtvs in the past 3 or so years are in any hurry to run out and buy new and more expensive ones

it's a fad, might last a little longer this time than it has the past dozen times it's been tried
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 05, 2010, 02:40:34 AM
It's kinda shameful for Sony gloating about 3D when in fact Kutaragi was so far ahead that he was pimping 4D four years ago.

What a downgrade.

Fuck you Sony, bring Ken back!

You know the funny thing with your comment is, according to John Vignocchi of Disney Interactive, the 3D effect on Ps3 is achieved by rendering games @120fps, 1080p resolution.



Link?  Either you're making stuff up or that guy is talking out of his ass because the PS3 can't even do PS2 games in 1080p at 60fps.   
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on July 05, 2010, 03:47:01 AM
Super Stardust HD is 1080p "120 fps" game...60fps in 3D version

Kilzone 3 runs at half-resolution,according to Eurogamer DF...

That would be 360p  :lol
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 05, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
Yeah um, the tech is SO not there for 3D yet. We can barely drive a 720p frame at 30fps and now we need to render that twice. Blooooorgh please just die already and come back when I have grandchildren and am too ornery to play games
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TripleA on July 05, 2010, 08:28:31 PM
that really isn't a funny thing about his comment

It is, considering Kutaragi is now having the last laugh.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TripleA on July 05, 2010, 08:38:45 PM
It's kinda shameful for Sony gloating about 3D when in fact Kutaragi was so far ahead that he was pimping 4D four years ago.

What a downgrade.

Fuck you Sony, bring Ken back!

You know the funny thing with your comment is, according to John Vignocchi of Disney Interactive, the 3D effect on Ps3 is achieved by rendering games @120fps, 1080p resolution.



Link?  Either you're making stuff up or that guy is talking out of his ass because the PS3 can't even do PS2 games in 1080p at 60fps.   

Listen to one of the Giantbomb E3 podcasts. I think it was their second one.

He said for devs to get the 3D working they literally have to render things twice, so in the case of the new Mortal Kombat game (which is a 60fps 720p game), the devs had to modify the hell out of the Unreal Engine to get it to run at 1080p 120fps.

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TripleA on July 05, 2010, 08:40:29 PM
It's kinda shameful for Sony gloating about 3D when in fact Kutaragi was so far ahead that he was pimping 4D four years ago.

What a downgrade.

Fuck you Sony, bring Ken back!

You know the funny thing with your comment is, according to John Vignocchi of Disney Interactive, the 3D effect on Ps3 is achieved by rendering games @120fps, 1080p resolution.

The funny thing is you can't even take a PS3 joke.

The funny thing is you can't even see the irony  :teehee
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TripleA on July 05, 2010, 08:49:10 PM
Here's the link http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7713068 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7713068) , 51 minute mark:

"You literally have to render 2 frames, it's 120fps."
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Trent Dole on July 05, 2010, 09:38:12 PM
b7
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on July 13, 2010, 01:56:13 AM
Nice interview with JC Connors,studio head of Griptonite Games, Foundation 9 Entertainment's go-to studio for handheld projects.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/5891/going_inside_the_3ds.php (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/5891/going_inside_the_3ds.php)


Another interview

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/07/hideki-konno/ (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/07/hideki-konno/)

Quote
First of all, 3-D is not the only feature that we are pushing toward with this hardware. We think that there will be software that will emphasize motion control using the gyro. During our experiments, we have found that in a first-person shooter, we can use the sensor to move the aiming and the pointer. In that case, your line of sight is still quite rigid, your eyes are pointing at the screen, and so the 3-D effect won’t be diluted. So there is the possibility that both 3-D and motion control could be used in the same software.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on July 13, 2010, 04:57:24 AM
you know it really ticks me off how everybody is like "3D WITH NO GLASSES" but nobody is like "that's it if you stay still like a statue"
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 13, 2010, 10:00:58 AM
I would love to play an FPS where I had to stiff-arm and then move my upper body in all directions
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Third on July 14, 2010, 06:08:57 PM
Is DQX a confirmed Wii title? Or will they release it on 3DS?

I hope it's a Wii game. Will definitely skip if it becomes a handheld game again.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on July 14, 2010, 07:36:42 PM
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/07/14/3ds_producer_commentary/

Some quotes about the 3DS from producers of videogames.

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Hideo Kojima

“I wear glasses, so I’m happy that 3D glasses are not needed. I directed the E3 demo. It was based off Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater, but the backgrounds and character modeling were all redone in high polygon. It’s not finalized, but we’re thinking about CO-OPs and other things — elements fitting of a 3D and portable game machine.”

Suda 51

“I was able to feel the speed of video game history and also the feeling of ‘We’ve come this far.’ To express the game I want to make in a word, it’s ‘The Next Game.’ Nintendo 3DS is the arrival of ‘The Next Hardware.’ So, ‘The Next Game.’”

Hideki Kamiya

“Games with dynamic scale are okay too, but I personally would like to take a different approach from the large screen and make a 3D game where you can enjoy the feeling of existence of portable 3D.”

Toshihiro Nagoshi (Super Monkey Ball 3DS)

“If future portable game machines demand that both social aspects and immersion be satisfied for when you play multiplayer and single player for instance, 3DS firmly answers these with Wi-Fi and 3D. I’d like to make a variety of proposals.”

Nagoshi also said that he believes the 3DS is an expected “conclusion” from Nintendo, feeling that starting with the 3DS, the company has seemed to have pursued game hardware as toys.

Shu Takumi

“We’ve at last reached this point! As a creator, I feel that a new challenge (considering certain things for the first time like interface issues) has started. I’d like to show a mystery in a 3D space.”

Atsushi Inaba

“I experienced a strong jolt of the feeling ‘I want to make something.’ When I first saw Wii and DS at Nintendo’s home office, I was also excited. It’s the same feeling here, but the level is completely different this time. Since the start of the game industry, there’s never been a system that better fit the words ‘dream’ and ‘next generation.’”

Keiji Inafune

“Elements for selling games are concept, technology and marketing. Nintendo 3DS is a showcase of elements for selling hardware. While keeping the appeal of portable game machines as is, it offers high processing ability, improved controls, a more appealing design, goggle-free 3D technology, and a robust 3rd party title lineup.”

Takenobu Terada

- Believes that the true 3D contender has arrived
- Terada’s team looking at different approaches for the 3DS Super Robot Wars games
- Could make something like Super Robot Wars Neo with 3D visuals or traditional 2D battles with 3D effects and cut-ins
- Something completely different a possibility, too

Shinji Mikami

“I felt that I’d definitely like to work on 3DS. Ah, it’s time for dinner with Itagaki.”

Mikami also told Famitsu that he was surprised at how well the 3D works. Images have great depth to them and really feel 3D.

Tomonobu Itagaki

“Today, I have a meeting at a yakiniku place, but I think things will heat up with talk about 3DS.”

Unlike goggles-free television viewing, Itagaki feels it will work well with a portable.

Yoshinori Ono

“We’d like to put in some ideas that make effective use of the portability.”

Hiroyuki Kobayashi

“Our own Resident Evil was shown on the show floor and was well received, but when I saw Metal Gear, I felt the new potential of the 3DS. I’d like to make something.”

Kobayashi was also “extremely surprised” by Nintendo’s games, feeling that images come to life on the screen.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on July 14, 2010, 09:22:29 PM
It is a MK game, not really that complex.  Also going from 720p to 1080p isnt that much of a hit as you would think.  Most PC cards go from 720p to 1080p for a 15% drop max.  It just goes to show how crappy the original engine was.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: bagofeyes on July 15, 2010, 01:07:03 AM
3ds looks pretty sweet. but will it kill our eyesight?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Beezy on July 15, 2010, 01:27:00 AM
you know it really ticks me off how everybody is like "3D WITH NO GLASSES" but nobody is like "that's it if you stay still like a statue"
You move around when playing handhelds? You STAND when playing handhelds?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: cool breeze on July 15, 2010, 01:37:54 AM
3ds looks pretty sweet. but will it kill our eyesight?

probably

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on July 15, 2010, 07:35:26 AM
PSP2 related...rumor

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THE ANNUAL RUNNING of the moles in Santa Clara yesterday had some surprising results, not just in the record number of IC engineers gored, but also the information leaked by those trying save their backsides. One of them even leaked some details about the upcoming PSP2's CPU, but it didn't save him.

Unfortunately for that engineer, he wasn't able to make it back to 2701 San Tomas for treatment, and succumbed to his wounds. While he was crawling back to the mothership begging for an 'ouchless' band-aid, he was babbling about how the new PSP2 hardware needed him, and that he was too young to die. Next of kin, not the next Kin, confirmed that the (now ex-) Nvidia engineer was indeed on the Tegra team, and that chip line will be powering the PSP2.

It is now set for a CES showing, but it will almost assuredly be released at a later date. This isn't due to the number of engineers mauled by moles yesterday, but because the Tegra 2 is massively over it's promised power budget. In a segment that finds 5% overages unacceptable, Tegra 2 is 20%+ over power budget. That explains why Nvidia PR suddenly changed the focus of the PSP2 screed to avoid the word 'phone', but, luckily for Sony, the PSP2 does not have phone capabilities.

The power 'whoopsie' means delays and possibly spec downgrades for the PSP2, but we will have to see where it ends up. Between that overage and several showstopper bugs, Sony is said to be very miffed at Nvidia right now. Even the moles could sense that before they pounced on engineer after engineer. The scene in the streets is almost as bad as the scenes in the Nvidia meeting rooms when the Sony people come around.

If the chip that Sony uses for the PSP2 is a vanilla Tegra 2, the design is in trouble. If they use a custom version of the part, there is a chance for things to work out in the end, but expect many delays as the silicon is respun and respun. For a device that has already been delayed because of it's CPU, that is not a good sign.

Unlike the other 20, 50, 70, or however many design wins Nvidia PR is promising this week, the PSP2 is actually going to come out. In fact, it will sell more than the other two Tegra flagship products, the Zune HD and the Kin(s) combined. So more than 20 units, one for the family of each gored engineer, plus or minus a few design wins.S|A

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/07/14/sonys-psp2-powered-nvidias-tegra-line/ (http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/07/14/sonys-psp2-powered-nvidias-tegra-line/)

Tegra was rumored to be in 3DS....false
Tegra is rumored to be in PSP2...?
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: MCD on July 15, 2010, 08:04:24 AM
nvidia getting desperate.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on July 15, 2010, 10:41:35 AM
I know,but Charlie is sometimes...semi-accurate
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 15, 2010, 02:14:23 PM
It is a MK game, not really that complex.  Also going from 720p to 1080p isnt that much of a hit as you would think.  Most PC cards go from 720p to 1080p for a 15% drop max.  It just goes to show how crappy the original engine was.

Consoles are severely limited by memory bandwidth and video ram so the drop from going to 1080P is much more than it usually is on PC. 
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Damian79 on July 15, 2010, 08:30:35 PM
It is a MK game, not really that complex.  Also going from 720p to 1080p isnt that much of a hit as you would think.  Most PC cards go from 720p to 1080p for a 15% drop max.  It just goes to show how crappy the original engine was.

Consoles are severely limited by memory bandwidth and video ram so the drop from going to 1080P is much more than it usually is on PC. 

Hmm i didnt realise that.
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on July 17, 2010, 10:24:35 AM
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Ubisoft wants 30 per cent market share on 3DS when the platform hits retail, the publisher has told MCV.

Speaking at the recent Ubisoft Summer Fair event, UK sales director Darren Bowen said the firm expects to account for a significant portion of sales when Nintendo’s highly anticipated handheld is released.

“We will have six to eight of the key launch titles on
3DS, so we are expecting anywhere between 25 and
30 per cent share on that platform,” he said.

In the wake of the 3DS’ E3 unveiling, Ubisoft confirmed it was working on five new titles for the handheld from some of its biggest selling brands.

These games include Assassin’s Creed: Lost Legacy, Ghost Recon, Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, Battle of Giants: Dinosaur Strike and a new Driver game.



The firm has previously championed the potential of 3D technology with titles such as James Cameron’s Avatar: The Game and the upcoming Shaun White Skateboarding.

Ubisoft reiterated that it will fully support the 3D movement – although its focus will be on motion control until the installed base of 3DTVs improves.

Marketing director Murray Pannell said: “3D will certainly come but it will come slowly and in time.

“The technology is spectacular but at the moment it’s relatively expensive for true 3D in the living room. It’s tricky to understand how it can become a social experience, since gaming is now so focused on families and multiplayer.

“The Wii has already proven that motion control can exist now, it’s fun and you can enjoy it with multiple people at the same time. Clearly, Microsoft and Sony have identified this as a brilliant way of maximising their sales opportunities and that technology will have the most impact in the short term.”

As such, Ubisoft will also have a strong presence at the launch of Move and Kinect, with Your Shape: Fitness Evolved and Motion Sports for Xbox 360, and Racket Sports on PS3

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40029/Ubisoft-targets-30-share-on-3DS (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40029/Ubisoft-targets-30-share-on-3DS)

No Petz ???
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: magus on July 17, 2010, 01:14:05 PM
they are keeping their better titles for later
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on August 16, 2010, 12:20:44 PM
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RUMOUR WATCH: Buried listing on leading entertainment retailer’s site points to high price for handheld

A listing on the site of retailer Play.com has pointed to a £199.99 RRP for Nintendo’s next handheld, the 3DS.

As spotted by CVG, though the main page for the device doesn’t carry a price, if a user continues to browse the site the 3DS shows up in their ‘Recently Viewed Items’ list with a price of £199.99.

In all likelihood the amount is nothing more than a placeholder – but as a placeholder filled in by a retailer at the heart of the games industry, at the very least it’s a useful indicator of what the industry is expecting.

Indeed, UK retail has previously told MCV that it expects an RRP of around £200 when the machine arrives in the UK next year.

However, Nintendo’s UK marketing manager James Honeywell subsequently hinted that the device could come in for less than that, saying that the price will be “somewhere within that kind of architecture” that sees the DSi sell for £129.99 and the DSi XL for £159.99.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40443/Play-suggests-19999-3DS-RRP (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40443/Play-suggests-19999-3DS-RRP)

hmm...
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: Third on August 16, 2010, 12:25:36 PM
£200

~€250

~$300

So, in the end...

£199 , €249, $249
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 16, 2010, 01:29:13 PM
called it

should be 229
Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on December 18, 2010, 03:21:36 AM
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Devs should have plenty of space to work with when creating games for the 3DS. Macronix, the manufacturer behind the 3DS software cards, has revealed that the cards will hold anywhere from 1GB all the way up to 8GB.

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=145313 (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=145313)

8GB?

If true that is quite a lot,full blown jrpgs possible(weeaboo cutscenes :drool)
Himu will be pleased

spoke too soon
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Nintendo has contracted the production of its Nintendo 3DS cartridges to Taiwan-based solid-state maker Macronix. And apparently, those cartridges offer enormous memory space.

According to Taiwanese-site Gamrade, the 3DS cartridge is able to hold up to 8GB, but it's rumored Nintendo will be enforcing some kind of 2GB limit on 3DS games (details are few and far between in the report), with 1GB the supposed very least required. So don't hold your breath for 8GB Nintendo 3DS games any time soon; however, that may change over the course of the console's life.

Still, this shows just how much of an improvement the 3DS is considering the biggest cartridges for the Nintendo DS are only 512MB.

Remember that this is unconfirmed, and Kotaku is following up with Nintendo. This post will be updated should the company comment.

hmm

Title: Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
Post by: maxy on December 20, 2010, 07:42:18 AM
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