Nintendo 3DS revealed

[Rman]

"Reserved for specs"

Games in development:
DJ Hero 3D


AQ Interactive

Cubic ninja

Atlus

Shin Megami Tensei
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor

Capcom

Resident Evil Revelations
Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition (name not final)

EA

EA FIFA Soccer
Madden NFL
The Sims 3

Gameloft

Asphalt DS

Harmonix

Music Game

Hudson Soft

Bomberman franchise
Deca Sports franchise
Kororinpa franchise

Konami

Baseball franchise
Contra franchise
Frogger franchise
Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater 3D "The Naked Sample"
Pro Evolution Soccer franchise / Winning Eleven franchise

Level-5

Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (name not final)

Majesco Entertainment

BloodRayne: The Shroud
A Boy and His Blob
Face Racers: Photo Finish
Lion's Pride: Adventures on the Serengeti
Martha Stewart
WonderWorld Amusement Park

Marvelous

Bokujyoumonogatari (Harvest Moon) 3D (name not final)

Namco

Dragon Ball franchise (name not final)
Gundam franchise (name not final)
PAC-MANTM & GALAGATM (name not final)
Ridge Racer (name not final)
Super Robot franchise (name not final)

Nintendo

Animal Crossing Kid Icarus: Uprising
Mario Kart
Nintendo Dogs + cats
Paper Mario
PilotWings Resort
Star Fox 64 3D
Steel Diver

Rocket

Crash-City GP
VS-robo

Sega

Sonic (name not final)
Super Monkey Ball (name not final)

Square Enix

CODENAME: Chocobo Racing
3D Dragon Quest franchise
Final Fantasy franchise
Kingdom Hearts franchise

Take-Two Interactive

Carnival Games franchise

Tecmo Koei

Dead or Alive 3D (name not final)
Dynasty Warriors (name not final)
Ninja Gaiden (name not final)
Samurai Warriors 3D (name not final)

TOMY

Lovely Lisa 3D
Naruto Shippuden Action

THQ

de Blob 2
Kung Fu Panda
Kaboom of Doom
Marvel Super Hero Squad
Infinity Gauntlet
The Penguins of Madagascar
Puss N Boots
Saints Row: Drive-By

Ubisoft

Assassin's Creed: Lost Legacy
Battle of Giants: Dinosaur Strike
Driver Renegade Hollywood 61 (name not final)
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory

Warner Bros

Batman franchise
LEGO franchise

I'm actually quite surprised at its fidelity.  I was very skeptical of the its graphical prowess given the Wii's and DS's underpowered chipsets. 

[Beezy]

I'm actually quite surprised at its fidelity.  I was very skeptical of the its graphical prowess given the Wii and DS underpowered chipsets. 

Nintendo has money to burn now. I expect a lot from their next console.

[magus]

i'll ask again
does this have bigger screen than a phat ds?

[Bebpo]

The title lineup looks exactly like the PS3 title lineup.


Still waiting on Shin Megami Tensei PS3, Super Robot Wars PS3, etc...
taking this with a large grain of salt.

[brawndolicious]

My guess is that it's going to be xbox1 level graphics if they're porting Chaos Theory.

[bork]

My guess is that it's going to be xbox1 level graphics if they're porting Chaos Theory.

There's already plenty of early pictures out.  Most games look on par with the PSP.

[Bloodwake]

http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098192p1.html

[magus]

http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1098192p1.html

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oh weird now it shown

as i said port on a newborn console are lame as fuck
nintendo and konami are so lazy

[Himu]

day one.

[MCD]

best handheld ever.

[maxy]

Oh Reggie

[Himu]

Nintendo just fucking butt-raped Apple with their dumb as fuck attempt at supplanting the DS. Did Jobs think Iwata was gonna pass that shit up and let him have that marketshare? Lawl. 3D. Gyro. Motion Sensing. Two fucking cameras on the outside to take 3D pics. A third camera—a third motherfucking camera motherfucker—usable for gameplay, letting your nintendog see you and react to you.

Fuckin' genius up in this motherfuckin' industry motherfuckers.

Fuckin' fuck yeah Nintendo motherfucker YEAH YEAH

[brawndolicious]

My guess is that it's going to be xbox1 level graphics if they're porting Chaos Theory.

There's already plenty of early pictures out.  Most games look on par with the PSP.

Possibly, some games like Kid Icarus look really good though.

[TripleA]

Once again, Nintendo has saved the videogame industry.

[TripleA]

Nintendo just fucking butt-raped Apple with their dumb as fuck attempt at supplanting the DS. Did Jobs think Iwata was gonna pass that shit up and let him have that marketshare? Lawl. 3D. Gyro. Motion Sensing. Two fucking cameras on the outside to take 3D pics. A third camera—a third motherfucking camera motherfucker—usable for gameplay, letting your nintendog see you and react to you.

Fuckin' genius up in this motherfuckin' industry motherfuckers.

Fuckin' fuck yeah Nintendo motherfucker YEAH YEAH

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for everyone in the portable gaming space

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[Bebpo]

Because having the Japanese industry stuck making PS2 games for another 10 years is just what it's needed.

PS2 2000-2007
Wii (aka PS2 #2) 2006-2012
3DS (aka PS2 #3) 2011-2015

Japanese developers will continue being stuck in the past and fall further and further behind western developers.

[Smooth Groove]

Impressions from Garnett Lee below.  Sounds awesome!  

On the way our of Nintendo's E3 press briefing I got to play with a 3DS that had a demo video running on its 3D screen. One look at that screen drove home how much difference it makes to watch the device without glasses. The images were vibrant and that worked naturally with the 3D effect to pop everything out. It brought into sharp contrast the dimming caused by the glasses used for the various large screen 3D technologies.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/64317

[magus]

i don't see anything bad with that if it means access to more developers,maybe this will give the space for a developer like atlus to do something serious for once for example!
of course if they just have to turn the 3DS into a port machine they can go fuck themself

[Rman]

Because having the Japanese industry stuck making PS2 games for another 10 years is just what it's needed.

PS2 2000-2007
Wii (aka PS2 #2) 2006-2012
3DS (aka PS2 #3) 2011-2015

Japanese developers will continue being stuck in the past and fall further and further behind western developers.

I don't think you can blame the developers, when the game buying public in Japan has shown its preference for portable games.

[Smooth Groove]

Because having the Japanese industry stuck making PS2 games for another 10 years is just what it's needed.

PS2 2000-2007
Wii (aka PS2 #2) 2006-2012
3DS (aka PS2 #3) 2011-2015

Japanese developers will continue being stuck in the past and fall further and further behind western developers.

That's not going to change until Japanese gamers decided that they're tired of playing the same old crap and PS2 era visuals.  Despite what logic dictates, Japanese game companies just don't care as much about the much larger Western market.  

[cool breeze]

Because having the Japanese industry stuck making PS2 games for another 10 years is just what it's needed.

PS2 2000-2007
Wii (aka PS2 #2) 2006-2012
3DS (aka PS2 #3) 2011-2015

Japanese developers will continue being stuck in the past and fall further and further behind western developers.

you're forgetting the PSP

I don't see what's so bad about it.  The cost to make games is way less and it's just enough tech pull off almost any style of game.

[brawndolicious]

Because having the Japanese industry stuck making PS2 games for another 10 years is just what it's needed.
PS2 2000-2007
Wii (aka PS2 #2) 2006-2012
3DS (aka PS2 #3) 2011-2015
Japanese developers will continue being stuck in the past and fall further and further behind western developers.

Well honestly, that level of hardware is good enough to make 3D decent enough that it doesn't hurt your eyes at least.  A few Wii games like Metroid Prime, Mario Galaxy, etc even make me forget I'm playing such "primitive" graphics.

How much more were you expecting of the 3DS though?  Like Doom 3 level?

[magus]

you know one thing that worries me is that the 3DS is going to be the death of 2D
if you make a 2D game there can't be no 3D gimmick sooooooooooo...

I wish the resolution were higher. :'(

i seems to understand the screen are the same size of the ds
if that's so i wish the screen would be biggers
specialy since nintendo already made the DSXL

[Bebpo]

I think the problem is the we've been seeing the results.  The Japanese market is shrinking, Japanese developers are going bankrupt, and the majority of games that people care about are coming from US or Euro developers.  

Does anyone care about The Last Ranker?  Capcom's sinking all this money into making an AAA level rpg for psp.  The staff are big name people in every field (FF writer, Etrian Odyssey game designer, KH composer, BoF/DMC artist).  But for the most part the game is irrelevant.  It'll sell 50-100k in Japan, sell 10k in the US, 10k in Europe and end up being a huge waste of everyone's time on the development team for the last 2 years.

Even Peace Walker is going to be the lowest selling MGS game.

Xenoblade isn't even coming to the west it looks like and the sales will probably doom it to being the last console budget rpg Takahashi ever makes.


This PS2 quality AAA tier games on Wii/PSP/DS model...isn't working.  So we either get super low budget stuff that is profitable or Jdevs going out of business.

[cool breeze]

you know one thing that worries me is that the 3DS is going to be the death of 2D
if you make a 2D game there can't be no 3D gimmick sooooooooooo...

I wish the resolution were higher. :'(

i seems to understand the screen are the same size of the ds
if that's so i wish the screen would be biggers
specialy since nintendo already made the DSXL

2D graphics or gameplay? they showed off a bunch of 2D games like Donkey Kong and Kirby just now

[Smooth Groove]

Yeah, basic 3D effects can easily be done with a 2D game like Castlevania.

[Beezy]

Even Peace Walker is going to be the lowest selling MGS game.

Not if they port it to the 3DS.

[magus]

2D graphics obviously

bebpo - are higher budget title doing any better? the industry just plain suck and reward the same guys over and over (here's another mario! here's another waggle game! here's another call of duty!) while any newbye is left picking up the leftover

[Bebpo]

Well, higher budget ones have more of a chance to get noticed worldwide and do well.  But when doing them the developers have to understand worldwide appeal like Capcom or Kojima.

I dunno, either way the Japanese industry is fucked.  I expect jrpgs to be dead in the next 5-10 years.

[magus]

nah at worst we'll get dragon quest 20

[Rman]

Well, higher budget ones have more of a chance to get noticed worldwide and do well.  But when doing them the developers have to understand worldwide appeal like Capcom or Kojima.

I dunno, either way the Japanese industry is fucked.  I expect jrpgs to be dead in the next 5-10 years.

Well PS3 sales are getting better.  And it's getting much better support.  I don't think I'll reach PS2 levels of ubiquity, but I don't think its that bad. 

[Smooth Groove]

Japan has always been behind the West in terms of technological wizardry.  It's just that in the past, the tech disadvantage didn't really matter because the Japs more than make up for it with superior artistic elements, such as character models and better color palettes.  However, this gen, Western games have moved so far ahead that even the lousy art don't stop them from looking better than their Jap counterparts.  

[MCD]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21881917&postcount=220
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21881853&postcount=75

GODDAMN I WANT THIS NOW


IWATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[brawndolicious]

That new RE game doesn't look real-time.

[Kestastrophe]

Any footage of Kid Icarus yet? The liveblog that I read at work said it looked like a Wii game in terms of fidelity

[MCD]

Any footage of Kid Icarus yet? The liveblog that I read at work said it looked like a Wii game in terms of fidelity

it looked better actually.

[cool breeze]

Any footage of Kid Icarus yet? The liveblog that I read at work said it looked like a Wii game in terms of fidelity

http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/14323409/sora-project/videos/e310_kidicarus_trl_061510.html

[Diunx]

Holy shit a metal gear!? looks like I'm buying one of these things

[fistfulofmetal]

MGS got my attention
A remake of MGS3 squandered it.

MGS3 is the best game of all time but a tiny low res version with gimmicks tak'd on doesn't interest me at all. plus having real time cutscenes is a terrible idea. the comic book cutscenes in the PSP games are great and a much better way of telling the story when you dont have the proper graphical fidelity

[Kestastrophe]

awww, its a shooter? boooooo

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Looks hot. Let's hope Nintendo hasn't stepped up their game in the realm of piracy prevention.

[Vizzys]

ill take one in black

no glossy blue for me thanks

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Yeah, I'd rather not buy one of those ugly aqua colored ones but in the end I'm not that picky.  Hell, my DS Light is hot pink because that's all they had left in stock at the time.

[MCD]

pink is a manly color.

be proud.

[Eel O'Brian]

i'll buy one when i can see some nazi brains flying out of it

[Oblivion]

The DS was an N64 without texture filtering, and now the 3DS is a GC without texture filtering.

Nintendo

[MCD]

The DS was an N64 without texture filtering, and now the 3DS is a GC without texture filtering.

Nintendo

look at this nfag

[Himu]

I wish the resolution were higher. :'(

This is the one thing that disappoints me. I was hoping the screen would around the size of the psp.

[cool breeze]

I wish the resolution were higher. :'(

This is the one thing that disappoints me. I was hoping the screen would around the size of the psp.

smaller than the PSP.  actually, it's size of a PSP go screen, right?

[TakingBackSunday]

Also, the screens for the games we've seen are only the images we see with one eye, not the two combined.  Don't know if that helps at all.

[cool breeze]

Also, the screens for the games we've seen are only the images we see with one eye, not the two combined.  Don't know if that helps at all.

It won't improve the image quality or anything but the effect would definitely make it more impressive.

I wonder if Nintendo will require every game to be 3D.  Technically they should be able to pump out more power if they didn't use 3D at all.

I also wonder if they will announce virtual console for it

[Himu]

I wish the resolution were higher. :'(

This is the one thing that disappoints me. I was hoping the screen would around the size of the psp.

smaller than the PSP.  actually, it's size of a PSP go screen, right?

Huh? I know it's smaller, I was hoping both screens would be the size of psp screens.

[cool breeze]

I just realized what Kid Icarus reminds me of--Gungage on the PS1.  That was driving me crazy.

I wish the resolution were higher. :'(

This is the one thing that disappoints me. I was hoping the screen would around the size of the psp.

smaller than the PSP.  actually, it's size of a PSP go screen, right?

Huh? I know it's smaller, I was hoping both screens would be the size of psp screens.

It seems like the bottom screen is the same size as the DSi screen (which is slightly bigger than the DS and DS Lite screen) while the top screen is increased horizontally because it's widescreen now.

[Smooth Groove]

I wonder if Nintendo will require every game to be 3D.  Technically they should be able to pump out more power if they didn't use 3D at all.

Good point.  I forgot about that.  Maybe 3DS really does have that greater than Xbox 1 power that was rumored. 

[SantaC]

I wonder if Nintendo will require every game to be 3D.  Technically they should be able to pump out more power if they didn't use 3D at all.

Good point.  I forgot about that.  Maybe 3DS really does have that greater than Xbox 1 power that was rumored. 

so it is better than wii?

[cool breeze]

I just read the specs and the screens are still really low-res.  Better than the DS, but still really bad.

Bottom screen is smaller than the DSi screen at 3 inch (size of DS Lite, I think) and 320x240 resolution 

[Beezy]

Wait for the 3DSi

[Smooth Groove]

But 3D tends to reduce performance by at least 50%.  It's possible that Nintendo has figured a more effective method but it's kinda hard to believe that they can outdo Nvidia in the graphical realm.  

[Smooth Groove]

So non-3d should be 400x240, no?

[brawndolicious]

What if the game is made of 2D sprites?